 Alright, good morning everyone and welcome to the session. Let's begin this time with a word of prayer Then we'll get into our teaching. Would anyone like to pray? Father God, we thank you and we bless you Lord. We thank you for this time You have given us Lord Lord help us to walk in wisdom and Understanding that comes from you Lord in this world for you for the purpose for your purpose alone father In Jesus name we pray. Amen All right, so last class we did chapter we completed chapter 12, right? So let's get into chapter 13, which is We're gonna talk about leadership Leadership how many of us want to be leaders? Some of them don't want to be leaders. Francis doesn't want to be a oh you are Oh, you are leaders already. Okay. That's wonderful. Yeah, I got it wrong then. We're all we're all we're all leaders And among many things one of the one aspect of leadership is influence When we look at not only in the church, but when we look at globally when you look at leaders, right in general One very interesting You know facet in their life is the able to influence people the ability to influence people, right? Now remember that leadership can come to us in many different ways, right? One is We grow into leadership do is leadership is given to us So it's given you learn how to do it three is my father was a Businessman he has his own company So I'll become the next CEO now this person may not know anything about leadership So leadership comes in different ways and when we especially when we look at ministry also right or leadership can come in different ways Look at the example of Saul He was so what was he doing? He was going he went searching for his father's donkeys God told Samuel as a person He's searching for his father's donkeys go and anoint him as the next king Saul knew nothing The Bible says that he was only a good smart person. That's it There was no, you know skills of him to be a leader. So What is it that you and I You know certain principles that we can use when it comes to leadership To be effective leaders, right? So whether leadership comes to us on a plate Or whether we earn it whether it's just you know given to us over time The outcome of that leadership depends on us I can take this role of leadership and misuse it or abuse it and It's going to end up being non profitable for me and for my organization and for my ministry, right? So let's look at a few very very important principles on leadership and You know, this is very important that we must all apply this Right as you all said, we are already leaders It's so we got to apply this in our lives. Okay, we talked about this a Couple of classes before if you don't see it you cannot lead people into it Matthew 15 14 says let them alone The blind they are blind leaders of the blind and if the blind leads the blind both will fall into a Right so We know that leaders are able to influence each other They come together with a common pursuit. They have they have this ability to you know to speak into people's lives and They're able to you know Direct people to the vision overall vision of the organization, right? But let's look at a few points from here in this point Okay, right leadership Requires the ability to see the future and Envision intended outcomes Right. So we need the ability leadership As leaders we need the ability to see into the future and envision Intended outcomes, right? So that means what if I am starting with two people an Effective leader will look into the future the word envision means To see yourself in the future like what what do I see this organization in the future and What are the outcomes that I will see? Through this organization or through this ministry You get what I'm saying, right? You may have you may have plans to go back from here plant a new church the Bible says Do not despise me your beginnings humble beginnings. It's good. You start off but You must also envision a good leader envisions That okay one day Ten years from now. This is what we will be I'm not talking only about numbers, but I'm talking about impact All right, you can have a church of 200 people and do a bigger impact than have a church of You know 600 700 people and not do much of an impact You get what I'm saying, right? So when you as a leader, you must envision Further on what do you see yourself? Right? And we talked about this, right? Even in our personal lives, right? If we we don't see ourselves being something we will never achieve it Remember this right see yourself in leadership see yourself In places where you feel see in your mind, you may feel it's not possible But God can do it Right, so you see yourself you envision yourself you work hard towards it Hold on to God's promises. Say God. This is what your word says Right, this is what first comes in 29 says no I has seen no year has heard No mind has conceived what God has in store for his people, right? Efficiency 20 you is able to do exceedingly in abundantly more than we can ask more than we can think more than we can imagine So you envision You envision it Okay, one day. This is what's gonna happen. This is what I see in my mind's eye Right, don't close your mind's eye and just keep doing everything that is going on. No, you're gonna envision it, right and A leader without a vision is essentially blind now this is the response Matthew 15 is a response of The disciples Jesus's followers are saying Look at those those Pharisees are coming and telling Jesus, you know, how can you do all of this? How can you you know, you're raising up one your own kind of a Cult or you're trying to go against the system that is already there. What does he say? He's just saying leave them. They are blind They don't know what they are doing meaning what they They know everything about the law They know everything about the scriptures, but they are blind because they don't see that I am the Messiah. I'm standing here Right when Jesus went into the Temple is beautiful. He opens the scrolls to Isaiah and he said he reads the Spirit of the Lord is upon me And then what does he say? Scripture is fulfilled. This scripture is fulfilled as of today Generations were waiting to see what you see, but you are not seeing it Why they were blind Their eyes their mind was blind, right? So even as you lead people Envision have open your mind's eye, right to Maintain proper heart attitudes right Matthew chapter 20 25 to 28. Let's read that, please So Jesus got them together to settle things down He said you observe how Godless rulers throw their weight around how quickly a little power goes to their heads It's not going to be that with with you Who ever wants to be great must became a servant who wants to be first among you must be your slave That is what the Son of man has done. He come to serve Not be served and then to give away his life in exchange For the many who are held hostage Whoever wants to be great verse 26 whoever wants to be great must first become a servant and Whoever wants to be first among you must first become a slave So Jesus is turning things around Right. What is happening in the natural is whoever wants to be great must Do more and become great Yeah, he's saying you become a servant first So he's not talking about in the physical Right, it's not like God wants us to always be one servant, you know, oh, no, I'm I'm nothing No, that's not he's talking here about hard attitudes and we're gonna look at three important hard attitudes as a leader Okay, number one servanthood The leader's heart is that of a servant as a leader Especially if we are in ministry as a leader, we must develop a heart of a servant Meaning what we must understand that what I am doing is I am serving people This leadership role that is given to me is to serve the people and not to lord over them not to dictate terms over them That's what servant leadership is Servanthood is expressed through humility meekness and sacrifice Servanthood is expressed through humility meekness sacrifice and service And the Lord Jesus was the perfect example of all of this Did he walk in humility? Did he walk in meekness? But was he also walking in authority? Yes Did he walk in sacrifice sacrificing things for his Disciples for his people To a point that he sacrificed his own life right and the most I would say the most Attractive aspect of a leader is their humility the most the character that everyone can see is You know humility can also be shown outwardly You know outward humility, but in the heart you can be can have full of pride But God knows Right, so as us as a leader We maintain this heart of servanthood Not just by saying hey, I'm a servant of God That you're gonna show it in your heart attitude, right? Here in Philippians Paul writes this beautiful portion of scripture in Philippians 2 3 2 11 But let's not read the whole thing. Let's pick up a few things. Do not desire You know don't do anything out of selfish ambition Right Don't do anything out of selfish ambition be humble. You got the word there. Just look at those words humble Look out for another person's interest not just your own Jesus who had the nature of God, he did not try to be eat remain equal with God But instead he gave up all he had and took on the nature of a servant He became Like a human being and appeared in human likeness see that right he humbled himself and And Proverbs 29 23 is beautiful a man's pride will bring him low But the humble in spirit will retain honor You know, there's this saying right pride comes before the fall You know, sometimes God oversees pride. It's okay. It's okay. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see God will send the Holy Spirit the Holy Spirit is there He's trying to lay the axe to the root, but it's we are just too hard. What's gonna happen? What's gonna wait wait wait wait? He'll give chances. He'll give opportunities everything But if there is no change God will bring correction Can you give me an example to whom he did that? Where a person, you know, God kept intervening there was no change It's all right It's all what happened looking so we kept on you think God, you know, he was a good man when in first Samuel 15 Samuel says There was a time when you looked at you looked at yourself as a very Simple person very small in your own eyes but now after becoming the king of Israel You have Disobeyed God when we when I told you don't bring back those sacrifices from the enemy's camp Go and destroy them leave everything just come back empty-handed you went You saw the flock you saw that they were healthy. You brought them in came and when I'm asking you Samuel is asking What did you do you're saying no, I brought some because I thought we can offer it to God, you know pride is Is something that can really? destroy us It will destroy us One of the things that we must stay away from is pride and Pride is very subtle Just come in in a very small way Especially when you're a leader When we are in the entrance level that may not be pride As we grow we get leadership roles. You're given the mic. You're given the pulpit. You're given opportunities pride can slip in So how do I as a leader stay away from it? Go back to God One of the things we can always say is God nothing that we do is on our own John 15 says Sorry, I'm not sure what the chapter is but it says without me you can do nothing end of story So that verse itself should say okay, God Please Let me to remember that without you I can do nothing Sounds 139 says all my days are ordained in your hands So the more I try to think okay, I'll do this this this You know what I'm saying? Hey, I am ordaining the days of your hand right So walk in In you know in humility to his passion As a leader you must be passionate about your what you're doing, right? A leader's passion is expressed Through the enthusiasm With which he goes about things his passion is demonstrated through hard work the ability to stay the vision during turbulent times now whether it's ministry whether it's business you will have ups and downs and Passion is very easily it can dry out Right, it's like when you become a believer you become a believer. What happens? First thing you do is 21 days fasting in prayer The one you'll do that full of zeal then after one year what happens? Five days fasting in prayer is hard Why? Passion has gone It's not like God is gone. God is still there God is still working God will not change Right, but our zeal and passion for the things of God has changed It may be there, but not as before Get what I'm saying, right? So one ability that a leader must have is to Drive the passion in their own heart and their own spirit tell yourself, hey, I May feel weak right now. I may feel You know that this is not going right and I just feel that okay Everything's so dry, but a leader must be passionate about what he's doing Now we've been preaching every Sunday every Sunday. We preach in church So many years right yesterday on Saturday I was preparing for the sermon and By his stripes we are here We have preached it so many times. I may know about it But I remember saying God you make it real in me Make it real This word this sentence we've used it thousands of times Make it real Put that reality of the cross inside and when we do that be driving ourselves And so we were able to prepare where we were able to keep that fire burning Right the enemy what he wants to do. He'll you know, just picture it this way. He's like Coming with a horse pipe With water and he's trying to use all the water he can to Burn it off Think of it that way like a picture. He's trying to just burn off that fire inside us But what was we do? Spark it into flame right fan into flame Paul says He fan it God fan the the action the desire look at the Apostle Paul Towards the end of his life. What is he saying? He's gonna die Maybe another one month. He's gonna die. He's saying oh, I'm not worried about what's happened before I'm not worried about the churches that have started. I'm not looking at whatever chief But I hold on and I look on forward I press on to what God has for me and I would look on I will continue to do ministry even to the last breath That's a very hard place to be invited. Now. It's not like Paul is sitting in the beach and telling this His body is full of bruises. He's gone through hell and Cormand shipwrecks and beaten and put in prison and now, you know, the churches though The you know, the churches the believers are going through so many problems and he's also There's so much that this one person is going to what are you saying? I forget what is behind I Continue to pursue what God has for me. What a passion This should be our desire God no matter what we're doing. My passion is to look to you Right, so keep that fire burning Up into the spirit of God, right some of the things that I'll just give you an example what I do Maybe it can help you You know, sometimes we are weak. We are not able to pray And so we just try to pray and we pray and we finish prayer and we feel oh, I didn't feel like I prayed How many of you felt that right? We prayed and then after that we said did we finish prayer? Is it over don't feel anything? Firstly remember it's not about our feeling God will work God is ministering. He's putting the deposit but but also the what I do is sometimes I I just begin to pray in the spirit. I'm not trying from my ability So I'm trying I'm saying holy spirit You pray you put your words The Bible says that no Paul says he's when the spirit prays he is praying mysteries to God Which will build us right he's praying there's a there's a Communication that's happening with God and our spirit So that's powerful, right? So you you you can tell yourself, okay, I'm gonna do this right Be passionate Pan it into flame Third third hard attitude number one. What are the first one we saw? Servant hood to Passion three self-control Hmm self-control What is it? It is the ability To be self-governing Demonstrated through self-discipline and self-restraint many selves Self-control is the ability to be self-governing that means as a leader You must be able to govern yourself Take care of yourself Demonstrated through self-discipline and self-restraint There are times as leaders. I mean not times, but we must always discipline ourselves all through the book of Proverbs and the Psalms, right and you know the Psalmist says The Lord disciplines or chastises those whom he loves right, so We as a leader, you know, nobody is Let's look at this self-governing There will come a time nobody will be checking on you as a leader Did you pray? Did you read your word? Did you finish your work? Like for example, you got your own business. You're doing your business Do you think your wife or your children are going to come and tell you hey Today you had a meeting at 11 o'clock. Did you attend the meeting? No Right, that's not going to happen because you need to be able to Be self-governing So a leader's he keeps a check on himself his time his work his habits his productivity his interactions with people His resources Everything that he has he needs to keep keep a check on it right And two was self. Let's look at self-discipline. We must discipline ourselves as leaders How do I discipline myself? Say God, okay, this is The timetable that I'm putting for my life This is what I will try to follow God help me to be disciplined to follow this Very simple, right big discipline Discipline can also be in terms of, you know, the things that we are doing in the natural, right Uh following time being punctual being Being patient listening to people when they are speaking so many things. These are all disciplines that we must learn right and Also to to have self-restraint there will be times you'll have to say you'll have to restrain yourself You'll need to stop you'll need to you know, like For example as pastors or leaders we will have to fast and pray God may say fast and pray We'll have to have the ability to restrain ourselves, right? Everyone are eating and enjoying But God is telling you to fast so you got to have the ability, okay I'll restrain myself and not only in terms of fasting, but in many other areas Develop the ability to restrain yourself. So those are the three hard attitudes number one was servanthood To be passionate Three is self-control, right? okay Next point Maintain proper people skills proverbs 2028 Go ahead anyone can read please Proverbs 2028 Love and truth forms a good leader sound leadership is founded on loving integrity Proverbs 1428 says the mark of a good leader is loyal followers leadership is nothing without a following See look at this leadership is about people You know, you've heard it saying right ministry is about people not Sunday service It's an aspect of ministry, but ministry is about people leadership is about people So leadership involves vision goals planning direction Responsibility decision-making Leadership is about people if you have no one following you you are not a leader. You're a leader to yourself You're a self-proclaimed leader That's what it is, right? So for example You say you're a leader you must have people following you Yes or no, it's common sense right you you we cannot be we cannot say okay. Hey, I'm a leader and have nobody following you Right. I know now we we just said I'm a leader, but no we say faster. Nobody's following me I'm talking about in terms of you know in the natural as a leader uh, you must You know leaders will have people following you and working with people is We need people skills Right. Uh, what are people's skills? Uh people skills are skills of Being showing how many of you have heard of this sympathy? Empathy? Uh, you know building rapport uh Building a connection being compassionate All of these things are called people skills basic manners of saying thank you. Sorry. Please all these are people's skills Looking at a person when they are talking to them Not interrupting people when they are speaking these are all people skills Right and as a leader people skills are very very very important Whether you're in a town whether you're in a city You must have people skills If we don't have people skills we can develop them Right. Many of us may say hey, I'm an introvert. I don't like to talk to people. I am most comfortable Alone Like me If one person is with me also it's enough for me. I don't need 10 20 people around me But that's not what leadership is As a leader I must be able to talk to people. I remember in I think 2011 2010 2011, you know when I used to you know lead worship in church and That time it was a central so People would after church say come up and say Hey, thank you for leading a very nice worship or they would give us give me feedback but Initially what I should do is finish the service And then the you know sometimes pastor would call up for the ministry song sometimes he wouldn't they would just close So when I know he's not calling I I've already decided in my mind go up Take my guitar my bag is there put the zip get down the stage go take a left go to the bike take the bike and go If I see people If they say hi, I'll say hi If they don't say hi good for me because I don't want to talk go to the bike sit go home And I did that for more than a year I just finish Come down finish go. Why I'm an introvert I I'm not afraid when I'm on stage Give me my guitar. We can I can lead worship Reach all of that. Okay, but outside of stage People skills. I had the people skills, but I'm an introvert. I don't want to talk to people You see what I'm you see what I'm trying to say It's not like my English was bad or I don't know how to speak I knew it You know how to speak I was confident right But by nature I didn't want to speak But as a leader Very very important is that I must learn To step out and know that I'm ministering to people leadership is about people Right and after understanding many of my friends, you know, many of them would say hey, where were you after Sunday? I You were there. I didn't see you It's because I ran away Then I made up my I said no I I have to stay back if I want to grow in my leadership I can't be doing this I can't be running away If I want to start get people to become leaders and start life groups I can't do it on the phone I can't do everything on the phone or I can't just say you become a leader. I need to build a rapper with a person Make him understand what leadership I mean, you know what life groups are get to know them And then eventually get them into leadership Right. So developing people skills is very important Right, when elder people come and talk, you know, especially you have senior folks senior citizens who come and talk to you Right. Well, just being respectable in front of them. That's a people's skill Right and and so we must develop that as leaders Know how to speak the right words give Leaders are encourages speak the right words give encouragement when they lead When you when you talk to people Leaders are builders. They build people up Leaders are secure and hence give people to think freedom to think decide and act independently Good leaders do not manipulate people Good leaders do not show partiality or favoritism Good leaders correct lovingly for their benefit Good leaders genuinely care for the people Look at those points right as a leader I must give the person the ability to make their own decisions Especially when it comes to ministry One of the things that we always do and we have it in our membership booklet also is As fast as we are here you have any You know Decision to make we can give you godly counsel But we will not make the decision for you It is your decision. It is your life your decision you make the decision Right so sometimes, you know people have come up to me Pastor, I think god has called me to be single all my life Now what do we do? So I remember this happened a couple of months back. I think god has called me to be single celibacy I said, why do you feel that? I know I just feel that I said, okay You you pray you see, you know marriage is not wrong Having children is not wrong. They're a blessing from god But if you feel that way you pray ask god for direction And then you can decide what you want to do, but this is what the bible says Right No, but apostle paul was single if god is calling you for that. That's wonderful Right, so we are there to give counsel But we're not going to make the decision. No In jesus name. I command that you You will get married Giving some false prophecy and all of that No, right you make the decision You want godly wisdom? You want some counsel? We just share it with you, right? um, correct people lovingly one of the you know, uh A difficult aspect for a leader is to correct lovingly But we do it because we love them we care for them right Okay, next one If the head is not right the body won't be right Proverbs 29 12 When a leader listens to malice Malicious gossip all the workers get infected with evil Look at the natural our brain If the head is infected, what's going to happen? If you if your mind tells you hey today you have fever Your body knows you have fever But your mind is saying hey you have fever, but what you can do even with fever you'll not do We will not do it. Why because the mind is telling us you can't do it Right now. This is the cpu in our body. What is the cpu? Oh central processing unit Everything that happens to us happens here first And if the head is right body is right If your head is not right, it'll affect your body Right and so even in the natural And when you look at leadership If the head of the organization Is doing things in a wrong way they are they are involving and cheating and bribery and uh, you know leading the organization with ungodly principles, what's going to happen? The organization also will follow the same thing Why hey the boss is doing I'll do it When you look at the government leaders, this is just an example The government leaders are taking bribe So those who are joining the government just as new recruiters They are taking so I'll take What's happening the head is affected And that same thing will repeat in the body So what is important here? We must uh, the leader must be sincere The leader may be in may be sincere but influenced by the wrong kind of people and wrong ideas And that can affect everyone else as he leads So you should you must have a strong sense of protecting yourself Or you say okay keep a check The number one thing that we can do to know whether I'm doing something right or wrong is to test it with God's word so as believers we have we have an owner's manual We have the word of God so we can always check and see now if I do this Am I doing it wrong? Is it wrong in the eyes of God? Is it a sin in the eyes of God? So some things we don't have to see If somebody says I'll give you a check of 10 lakhs. Can you get this done? And you know it's not in line with God's word first thing you see you take the check back Because you know it's wrong with God's word. Is the money good? Yes But is it in line with God's word? No Right, so if the head you as a leader must protect yourself from the things that the enemy can come against us with It is our responsibility to protect ourselves Right keep a track of what you're doing what you're speaking and how your life is keep a track of it Again, as we said leaders nobody will tell us They're independent Right, you know what we want sometimes Especially when you you know you grow into a certain level of leadership You are independent. It's a nice feeling at times But it comes with the responsibilities right Demonstrate Emphasize Empower and celebrate leaders Let's read proverbs 16 12 through 13 Proverbs 16 12 and 13 good good leaders have all wrong doings of all kinds Sound leadership has a moral foundation Good leaders cultivate honest speech. They love advisors who tell them Tell they beat the truth Yeah Good leaders leaders cultivate honest speech. They love advisors who tell them the truth Honesty integrity and other co-values come Number one as priority right In a world that we live in right now, you know There's so much of evil. There's so much of corruption When you stand as honest people God honors that It really honors that I'm just gonna share this right now. I'm not comparing With you know apc with other ministries. I'm not doing that right. I'm just sharing this It's just for us to understand I have Till now, right, I have not seen any ministry put their financials on the website Have you seen any No ministry. I've not I've not seen personally. I've not seen they could be I'm not saying there is no They could be But I've not seen The entire year's financials Everything that every church member can see anyone can see We go to the website go to financials. It's there. You may not even be in the church But it's there. Why? Because at apc one of our core values is integrity Integrity So being integrity, you know, whatever that comes in we use it in a wise way Nothing goes to the wrong place. It is used in ministry. So as leaders we must develop Other leaders right be honest You know others may strike back to us on us because of our honesty But it's good to Protect yourself and say, okay. No, what I'm doing is and you know, people may say things But I will be honest because God has called me for this It's an attribute that I must follow right Empower honest people by celebrating their honesty you know As I was growing up in, you know God gave me a wonderful opportunity to grow up the young age and ministry Meaning to just grow up in church and get into leadership I have made many mistakes right But one thing I learned is don't cover up a lie with another lie right Don't cover up your mistakes with a lie Because when you cover up one mistake with a lie, you'll have to tell maybe 10 20 lies after that And God can expose all of them So many times they've asked me, can you do have you done this? I said no Why I may have forgotten Or may I may have procrastinated and say, okay, I'll do it later next week I said no, I've not done it Right It is better to be honest than to come up with your own ideas and own solutions You get what I'm saying right nothing wrong Empower people by celebrating the honesty honesty is not only in the good things when we do something wrong be honest about it We'll talk a little bit about that later as well right, there will be consequences But remember that people will always look at honesty and say hey, he was honest Set the truth Right So being honest is very powerful Remember this happened just a couple of weeks back when we went to I went to my son's school and You know something happened. There was a misunderstanding and During the parent teacher meeting this the teacher told me See one thing I know about your son Ethan is that he's honest He's naughty Keeps talking deserving in the class maybe But he's honest When you ask him something he will not lie So he the teacher was telling the other boy See one thing I know is Ethan was honest If he has not done it, he's not done it So he's saying he's not done it. So you tell me And for me I was so pleased to hear that Because he did so he was disturbing the class talking running around But the teachers he's he's already made a statement there third standard. He's made a say Ethan will be honest if he's not done his homework. He's not done it If he's not signed his diary, it's not signed. He will not make up things. So you tell me and that other boy said Yeah, actually it was me And he said I told you If I did it, I'll tell you I did it Right and it was very simple and of course You know, I corrected him for his behavior in the class, but honesty And the teacher was you know, he was very happy with this aspect in his life The young age, he's very honest He's not afraid of the consequences So he doesn't lie I was so pleased But there are the areas that he has to improve, right? So we correct him that way. So honesty will People will look at it and you'll be honored for it. Remember that, right? Your attitude wrecks or invigorates Tolerate people tolerate or celebrate you. So basically your attitude is noticeable It affects others. Uh, it affects people if it's good, it'll affect them If it's bad, it'll affect them badly Right, so choose your attitude as a leader. You must learn to Refresh people with your attitude, right? Be real down to earth avoid pretends proverbs 13 7. That's great 13 7 A pretentious showy life is an empty life. A plain and simple life is a full Leadership is not a show business And leadership is simple is just a normal human being He's not from a different planet. He's not, you know, somebody who must be worshiped Leaders are normal people going through normal things in life They go through the same problems that we go through We go through they may go through the same sicknesses same troubles same mountains You know money doesn't resolve everything You know, especially when we look at people who are rich I said, oh, it's so rich. He has everything. It doesn't resolve anything It may serve some places You may be able to travel in luxury and all of that But if your heart is empty or your spirit feels lowly and dry No money can fill that Right. So leadership leaders are called to be Down to earth to be real Avoiding pretends to be accessible be approachable Remember where people want to talk to you laugh cry Be normal Right sometimes you say, oh, I should not cry. I'm a leader Why king Hezekiah himself cried David himself cried These are great leaders king of king of Israel. He's sitting and crying Jesus also cried Imagine they were standing in front of Lazarus there. What is Jesus doing crying? Jesus wept So it's nothing wrong as leaders to cry show your emotions Uh, remember that, you know, so people when they see it, they'll say, okay Hey, even he cries even he's going through difficulty As a leader when he's going through challenges right, so people see it and uh Hold on to high standards in all these areas yet and yet be a normal person, right? Now this part is very important Be careful of familiar Familiarity, wait, let me just go down a little bit Be careful of familiarity because In the wrong sense where people will no longer take you seriously This is a very important point Right, so we need to develop this ability Where you look at your people when people look at you They say, hey, he's a leader Must respect him. I must honor him because he's a leader but I must also be able to You know speak into their lives and be open for them to come and share what they want to share But I must also make make it a point not to be in a place where okay, anyway, he will forgive us Anyway, he's good Anyway, we had chai last week tea together. We enjoyed our breakfast together. So No, so don't let there be a sense of Uh, you know because we are familiar with each other so I can you know do whatever I want. No So you people have to continue to take you seriously because your words mean much Right. So so you how do I maintain that balance when it comes to correction? Correct Right. Don't stop Give good correction when it comes to uh raising up leaders when it comes to work let work be work let Personal life or friendship be that Even now If I desire I can take the phone call up any of our pastors talk to them I want to meet with you. I can Why because there's this Freedom that is given to us. I can Uh, but I don't take it just as a joke We've had lunch together. We go have tea together In office we go have tea So we have tea we they all talk and all of that but when we come back to office, it's office He's pastor Me to respect him. He's my leader. So I need to respect him Right. So we need to maintain that balance as leaders. Okay, we'll take a break. We'll come back and continue from here