 Run it up, they run it back, run it up, they run it back, run it back, run it up. We made it to one set, part of the lead. They didn't think we could. Here we are. Run it back, Vanduul TV, stadium insider, Shom Sharanya, Shaler P, and Lou Will. Don't look down. I never will. And it's not a good advice for anyone sitting next to Shaler or a look down ever. We were about to get this thing kicked off with Nuggets Timberwolves, and we're going to get to that. But we have a little breaking news, Shoms. We do. Giannis entered the Cumpo out tonight against Boston. This matchup of 1-2 in the Eastern Conference. And we're going to have to wait until the playoffs to see this matchup with Giannis there. I'm told he did not even travel to Boston. He stayed in Milwaukee. They want to make sure his hamstring is right. He's dealing with some hamstring soreness. Tomorrow the Bucks play on Thursday at home against the Nets. So see how he feels then. Revaluate him tomorrow and see if he can potentially play Thursday against the Nets. But right now Giannis entered the Cumpo out. Has been ruled out tonight. I feel cynical. Yeah, I kind of see what's happening here. If it's nothing serious, why go and travel and make the flight to Boston play a really, really intense game when you can just kind of sit this one out, chalk it up, and then kind of get your legs back at home against Brooklyn. Makes sense. No reason to rush at this time of the year. I know, but it just seems kind of lame, and I don't love it. It would be a nice little preview. I was going to say, we kind of would like to see a possible Eastern Conference final situation. No, save it when it matters. Scouting report. All right, fair enough. And the hamstring too, that thing can linger. Yeah, we could see all of your hamstrings right now. So we're good. Nuggets Timberwolves. That was the game we had. And man, Jokic, he's so fun. He leads his team 115-112 to the victory. Noko Bearcat and Nasred Algon. But Jokic finished with 35-16. Shut up, Chandler. Anthony Edwards, watching you. 38-8. Look, they have the best odds to win the Western Conference. Duh, at plus 145. They're plus 325 to win the whole shebang. Should we do some futures tickets on this? It feels like a no-pick. Are we allowed to bet on basketball? Yeah. Yeah, just not in the state of California. We just... No, I'm talking about... Yeah. Now we can. You're retired. Yeah. Okay. For sure. And by the way, I like... Hold on. How long have we been doing this show? You're just now asking. No, because I actually want to make a bet. I like both of these odds. I like them both. I like plus 145 for the conference. It feels like no-pick. Yeah, 325 to win the title. I'll take that bet. Parlay that. As good as Boston is. It's probably the team I trust the most. They just did it. They have the best player. Yeah. Yeah, I like both of these odds a lot. Yeah, I like the odds. I'm in. I didn't know... Did you know you could bet? Yeah, because I didn't know... You know, what if we stumble into a coaching position? I don't know who's going to put us in charge of a team. Well, then we can't. Then we can't. Obviously. But I'm just saying like... Right now we're free agent. Let it rip. All right. Yeah, do whatever you want until you have to answer to somebody else. Yolkits right now for MVP is minus 310. It's free money. That's free money, too? Free money. He's winning MVP. I don't think it's even close. I think SGA has put up a great season. He's put himself on the map in this league as an absolute superstar. There's a reason that it's plus 460 and 310 because this is an absolute lock. It's Yolkits just to lose. I'm still on the SGA train. I'm sorry. Stop. Are you? I'm not getting off. I'm not getting off. Listen, we were having this conversation when they were third and fourth in the Western Conference. They're sitting at number one. Still have an opportunity to finish with it. I'm still on the SGA train. Listen, I can lose, but I'm living in diameter. You did call this super early. You did. You've been... Like the beginning of the year. I can't change now. Yeah, you're right. Actually, he can't. I have a better case now than I've ever had. So I'm standing. I'm going to change. I like Yolkits. I had Tatum earlier. That's not happening. Yolkits. It is Yolkits and he's running away with it. A minute Joellen Bied went out. Tatum with those numbers. That's a nice one. What if OKC has the number one seed in the West? Does that change anything for you? I mean, it should. It should. How young they are, how they've come out of nowhere. The season SGA at 25, 26 years old being the leader of this team and the older guy on this team, what he's done, scoring the basketball. The older guy. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, listen, he's going to finish second in voting and maybe first. Who knows? But I just think Yolkits and everything he's done. If they finish with that one seed. You think so? He's going to get more votes swung his way. Oh, by the way. And then we... Also because the Yolkits fatigue, perhaps, people are like, no, that's enough. I think that's a real thing. All right. That's a real thing. We're lazy when it comes to stuff like that. We want something. We want something new and exciting. We didn't have... We had no inclination that SGA would even be in this conversation. So for him to be right now running up with the best odds. Yeah. I take it. You can put money on it now that you can. I like this upset. Yeah. I'm betting this for sure. And all three of these. And I'm also going to bet Denver to win the title. Next thing we know. And the West. And the West. Luz just got a real problem. We should probably slow down. Now that he's realized you can actually be doing this. Yeah, I'll be. The entire time. Look, the Timberwolves missing. You heard it off the top there. Basically everybody. Go Bear, Nasri, Katz still out. The health and the fact that we are where we are in the month of March with things winding down. How big a concern, Lou? Very much like Giannis. I think some of these things are preventative. You know, you're getting to the part of the season. If you don't need them to play and you got some knick-knack things. I'd rather give you another 48 to 72 hours to kind of put it on ice to prepare for the postseason. So I'm really not concerned here. They had a fight last night with Denver without those guys. And Mike Connelly almost willed those guys to a big win that they should have and could have won. But it didn't go their way. I think Denver made the right plays down the stretch to beat them. But they still were competitive. So I don't have any concern. Yeah, I'm not like a moral victory guy. But this is about as good of a loss as this team could have. Missing three of their main guys. They had guys like McDaniel, step up. Connelly played great. Anthony Edwards was great. And you know, it's funny watching this last play. I don't know if KCP did this on purpose or tried to beat him. But it's very smart what he did if he did it on purpose. Because a lot of times when you're down three, you're expecting guys to foul, right? So Anthony Edwards, I think he had no idea he was going to be that open. And so I don't know if KCP tripped or if he fell or if he tried to flop and get a foul call. But that was brilliant if he acted like he was going to foul him and then didn't. Because it literally rattled in. Yeah, and let's address this. Shout out to the Rules Committee. A lot of basketball is being played. They're letting a lot go. They're letting guys play defense again. Even that played right there. Normally 95% of the time that would have been a foul. They put them on a line for two free throws. That's the game. Instead they let them play on, give them an opportunity to tie the game. So, but you know, that's one of the new strategies now. If you're down three, you're going to foul. Even though I hate it, I've argued with so many of my coaches about that strategy. Don't donate free throws to anybody because then you put the pressure on us to make free throws. We worked hard to get a three point lead. Why are we donating free throws? And I think that's what KCP was trying to do. And then I almost bit them in the butt. Yeah. And as a coach, I am, I'm going to drill this now. Because it happens all the time, right? So I'm literally going to try and teach my guys either foul for sure before the shot goes up. Because you see, you always see these threes where it's like, damn, why didn't they foul? Why didn't let them have a chance to tie it? Make them make it, make them get an offensive rebound to miss. But some coaches swear by it. Yeah, I'm the absolute. I like it as well. Why give a chance to win, make them earn it, make them miss a free throw on purpose with one second and get an offensive rebound to tip it. That's a lot harder to do than someone who hit it. I'm curious what the new take foul rule though. If KCP blatantly takes a foul, do they get one free throw in the ball back in that, in that scenario? Or is it, yeah, I don't know how that works. But you know what I'm saying? I'm drilling as a coach to fake foul. So you like to... To have them, to have them try and get... You like the strategy of actually giving them the... I do. Because I don't want to give a team a chance. I want to make them earn it at the stripe and then we make free throws or make them miss and get a wild offensive rebound. I'll play devil's advocate. I'm up three. Foul. Give you two free throws. You foul me. Now we have to make free throws. I go down and I miss two. Well, you do this if there's like one to four, five seconds. No, we have coaches that they... Do it like 20, 30 seconds ago. No, I'm doing this. Really? I'm doing this five seconds or less. We have coaches that do this and that's like the strategy. Like, where are you going to foul? I have, I hate... Maybe if like De'Andre Jordan Dwight Howard type gets the ball and you know, at the elbow or something, foul him. But they're not even gonna be in it. 20 seconds is way too much time. Yeah. This possession last night, two seconds left. Yeah, this was tricky. Wrap him up because then they don't have enough time to foul us and make free throws, you know what I mean? So like that situation, yes. 20 seconds is way too much. That's an eternity at the end of the game. Yeah. No way. Big man update time. So Gobert was out last night. We'll talk about him first. Any news you could share? Rudy Gobert's still day-to-day. So is Nasreed. But Rudy Gobert, he's got a rib sprain. He's day-to-day and he tried to play yesterday. We'll see if he plays their next game. What the hell? Isn't a rib a bow? How do you spray a bow? They called it a rib sprain. You can spray a bow. Shut up. Just don't talk to me. Just go away. But the big one is Carl Anthony Towns. And he underwent meniscus surgery. The hope is he's still sometime early in the play. I mean, he's effectively gonna miss the rest of the regular season. Right. The hope is early in the playoffs. At some point in that first round, he's gonna be able to make it back. He is coming back at that point from a torn meniscus. So we'll see exactly when he'll be back. But he's been posting a lot on Instagram. He's clearly been ramping up, trying to get ready, at least teasing the potential of his return. By the way, Towns going out, that's one thing. But then you have Gobert and now Nasri. That's gonna be a lot to overcome. So hopefully these guys can figure out a way to get healthy. They've had a crazy year. Regardless, no one expected the Minnesota Term Wolves to be here right now. No one expected them to have this season they've had. And they've showed crazy gains. Anthony Edwards has become an absolute star. They gotta have at least two of these three bigs healthy to have a shot. Not just that, but we thought when Kat went down that would be a free, like a free fall. And that's not happening either. Free fall. They got a little dude from Atlanta named Anthony Edwards. He's not playing around. He's done an amazing job of keeping them where they are. Yeah, it's kind of fun to watch him take the, take the onus. All right, Maverick Spurs. This was close. How about this for a moral victory, Chandler? Can you give it? Yeah. Dallas, 113, 107, Kyrie, 28, 7 and 3. Luca, 18, 16 and 10. But only 6 to 27 from the field. Wemby, 12, 11 and 6. No quad double yet. But the 16 assists for Luca also coming with a 6 of 27 shooting night. So I don't know, just a bad night. Do we read into this? No, you don't read into it because it's Luca and he's forced to take a couple bad shots. He's forced to take some step backs. And look, everyone talks about his usage rate and how he does too much. But for them to win a game like this, this is a game that he can't afford to do this. Like it's a team like San Antonio. And at the end of the day, they got the win. It's 6 for 27. Great. No. But the guy did have 16. You guys will all be laughing soon. The guy did have 16 dimes. He only turned the ball over four times. So he did force a little bit. But again, when you're playing a team like this, he has the luxury to almost do that. And he still got out of there with the win. So I would just chalk it up with some tough shots that didn't go down. And when you take the shots he does take, he's going to have some bad shooting nights like this where he takes the long step backs into the shot clock where he's going ISO. They're not high percent shots in the first place. So he's going to have some off nights like this. And none of his teammates care? No. Coaches don't care? Old Taman Greenlight. The only time this is a problem when it's a guy shooting that doesn't supposed to be shooting as much as he is. And when your Luca dunches to somebody like that, nobody cares, bro. Shoot until you make one. Even if it's a situation where someone's getting played off, it almost hurts the team not shooting this much. So even if it's not Luca, if it's Tim Hardaway and there's letting him shoot threes, you got to take the open shot. All right. Let's talk about you guys personally. Have you had nights? Because when you're watching a game and guys having an off night, we get the whole shooter shoot. You got to get out of it, all that. But mentally, how hard is it to just look up and be like, I cannot make a single one? It's actually more comical than anything. Huh? Like if you can't make a shot, you're looking at your teammates, they're looking at you. And they're like, hey, keep shooting, bro. We don't care. Shoot until you come out of it. Shoot until you come out of it. So at that point, it just becomes a game inside of the game. Like I'm going to shoot until I make one of these. You know what I mean? You have bad nights to stick out? Absolutely. I probably had a ton of them bad ones. My job was to score. So I'm sure some nights I just didn't have it. And again, even the nights that you're off, you know you put in the work, you know you put in time, and you truly believe the next one's going in. So yeah, I think you might get a little hesitant. You miss five, six, seven in a row. But if you're open and you're aggressive, just shoot with confidence. No, Chandler. It does seven, eight, one at this point. I'm missing 20 in a row. I don't care. What's the difference going two for ten? Because now you're in. It's the same thing. I'm missing 24. You did that. I mean, that's just one of it. I do. Yeah, you did that. What are you? The Schwabber? That's actually not that bad. Eight and twenty-four. It feels like watching them. Eight and twenty-four, I want to have twenty-five. It depends on where the eight were placed, though, also. What's Lou's worst game? I thought Lou's an efficient shooter. It's all about numbers. You had a two for 19 night against Pacers. Damn. But how many free throws did he have that night, though? I don't have that information. I'll bet you I didn't stop shooting. Think about Lou, though. Two for 19. Two for 19. You know what? Two for 19. Two for 19. Oh, my God. It's all in the sheets. I miss one more shot immediately. I'm like, how the hell do you know this? I know everything. By the way, I had 21 points. Eight and twenty-four. I'd be an all-star this year. Look, it is right. I didn't even see that. It's crazy. I was like, how the hell does she know this? Yeah, why would I know that? By the way. I don't even know what day it is. Yeah. I mean, two for 19 is not slow, but I get it. Two shots. You missed 16 shots. I missed 17. The numbers are worse. Yeah, they're not good. Well, the two really. I think the two feels very weird. There was a full court moment last night for Luca that we need to watch the video of. Because why not? It's an excuse to watch some fun Luca stuff right here. Man, that court is bright. How we liking this? That's a great pass. That's an amazing two-grape pass. They also had another one at the beginning of the first. To Kyrie, that was full court that he beat the buzzer again. I'll tell you this, Michelle, I love this court. Do you? I love those colors. It's like a San Antonio, like. A little tan and brown. Yeah. It's kind of a little Santa Fe to it. Is he? This wasn't even his best pass. You're right. He had the one in the paint where he literally threw it behind his head. Try it like last week, right? You talking about the one last week? Yeah. When you make passes like this, you can go six of 27. He traveled his ass off, too. It's fine. Remember when Russ kept getting called with that where he would grab the ball and take seven steps? He just walked down the court. Finally, Russ was like, travel. Travel. Maybe they thought they were being taught. And he was so baffled at the call. He took 18 steps. It's like a little bit shocking. We know what the strategy is. It's a lot of Kyrie and it's a lot of Luca, but as this thing goes into the playoffs, what are we thinking about for the X Factor here? PJ Washington to me. That's the guy you traded a first round pick for. Traded Grant Williams away from, and people internally there view him as kind of like an Aaron Gordon type of player. A guy that can defend multiple positions, athletic, shoot the ball a little bit, play multiple positions for you offensively as well. So I look at him as being their X Factor. Daniel Gaffer, I think you can make a case for him as well. He had 13 points, eight rebounds, but he's, in my opinion, he's holding his end of the bargain up. PJ Washington last night, I think four points. He's a guy, if he's able to step his game up, getting that 15 point range, I think this team has a real chance potentially to do some damage. Yeah, I think it's PJ Washington, especially like you said, they get a first round pick. That's a lot. Yeah. That's value in that pick. So I think he's the perfect stretch for, I think he can play off Luca and Kyrie. He's a great pick and pop guy with Gaffer and lively rolling to the rim. So I do think he can be that critical kind of third scoring option, along with Tim Hardaway Jr. He's going to have some games, or he's going to get high. He's going to hit seven, eight, threes. He might take 15, but as long as he's shooting in that 40, 50% range in the playoffs and he's getting 15 to 22 points a game, he could also be a great third option for this team. I would try him in to say Tim Hardaway Jr. You know, he's been there just as long as Luca. This is very much as part of his team as anybody else. You know, I would challenge him to start putting the ball on the floor a little bit more. He'd live and die by that three so much. Put some pressure on the defense that'll open up the three-point shot for you. We are going to take a quick break right here on the other side. Vince Carter standing by to do a little chat here on Run It Back. He's eight. Vince Carter is in the house 22-year vet telling us how cold it was in the break, but 55 we've all voted is not cold. 55, man. It's ridiculous. Frost to lay on the golf course. It is. It's a frost to lay on the golf course. Really having a problem with the whole thing. Absolutely. I got long sleeves on. Yeah, no, there's like panning in your eyes. Like you don't know if you're going to survive this. We were talking bad shooting nights, just sort of the whole idea that you just get out of it. You shoot yourself out of it. They had a couple bad ones they could share. Do you remember one or two? I know. Okay, go. There's plenty of them. You know, for over 22 years. But, you know, I agree. You shoot yourself back in rhythm, especially if you have the green light. But at some point, you know, I lose it. When you're the star, you say, shoot it. You don't care. At some point, me, a teammate, I'm like, get a little closer. Right. You know, see one go in, get filed, try to get a layup and then work your way back out. Hopefully that kind of gets you back in rhythm. But yes, I've had some rough nights where I was just like, man, look. That was my thing. I used the free throw line as my little in between. That was your thing? Yeah. See, for me, I was trying to get, if I could get close to the rim, get a layup, a dunk or whatever. That used to, you know, boost your confidence a little bit. In the interest of fairness, three for 20 in a playoff game. See? Now we all have a moment. Was it against the Knicks? We could share. Was it against the Knicks? Was it against the Knicks? Yeah. Yeah. You remember that? Yeah, don't forget. He's never going to forget that. I won't ever forget Jeff Van Gundy and triple teams. It was against the triple team, man. Hey, man, you have coaches that tell you, hey, have short-term memory, and I took that advice and ran with it. I don't remember anything. That's how I like to live my whole life. I remember three for 20, though. Three for 20. Yeah, that's, there he goes. Okay, so maybe Chandler's wasn't the worst. Mine was eight for 24, and I had 21. I said, I'd be an all-star if I did that this year. Give me the clip. They're taking shots. Me and Lou missed 17 shots, man. That's all right. Got out of it. Like Lou said, it didn't bother me the next game. Got to keep going. Keep going. Reload the clip. We are officially in March Mad. Yesterday it started, although some of those games were a little bit weird, but Tar Hill's with the one seed. How are we feeling? Hey, is the Gators? Yeah, they are. Don't do that. Don't do that. I got Colorado. No, I want to hear this back talk. Go, go, go. No, I'm just saying I got Colorado. We didn't get Rob with our seed, but we actually got Colorado, too. Oh my God, sitting right next to him? Take it all, Betsy. Both have my number. Let me know how much you want. I like Colorado because it's unpredictable. You like Colorado. This is going to be probably the best tournament we've seen in so long because there's a couple of favorites, but anybody can get beat. It's going to be the beauty of it. It's going to be the beauty of it. I'll tell you this. I'll give you my side. I know we have Wagner. I watched that game. I scouted it. I'm ready to send in my report to the hills, but there's some teams that, you know, Clemson's in there, whatever. But Arizona's in our bracket. And Caleb Love, obviously, you know, transferred there, and that would be an unreal matchup to go to the final four. So that can go either way. And, you know, he's had, you know, a great year, but can you imagine? So I'm looking forward to that. Is UNC played Michigan State? Second round? They do. That's the tough one. That's a tough one. So you like the Tarrios? I do. If the number four, you know, the top four C Tarrios show up that we've seen over the year, over the course of the year, we've been in the top five and just tried to slow play our way into the season or into a game. And you can't do this in the playoffs. Like I said, Michigan State is tough. Alabama out there is tough. I think there's Baylor and, of course, Arizona. So I do like us. I think, you know, we have obviously the coach of the year right now. And I think they're focused on the mission. UNC State gave us a nice wake-up call. 24-and-a-half point favorites in round one. That's crazy. I'm not saying that's going to happen, but it is just... I'm betting everything. But it's a 16 C, so usually those numbers look high in the first round. All right, fair enough, fair enough. Look, yesterday we had Tyler Hansboro on the show, one of your Tarheel brothers. Psycho T. And we got into the discussion about NILs. What kind of bag Coach K got to drop to turn that Tarheel blue into a Duke blue? Hey, what? Let me see. There's a number of N's. There's a number for everything. There's definitely a number. What's making this year? Round there? It's got to be. Like, yeah, I can't imagine. Like, I visited Duke, you know, obviously on my time. And I just, I don't know. It has to be a big bag to do that because the money is great with the bag. Just survive over there, Duke. It is. Just to survive. Different vibe. Corning. It is a different... I'm all one today, BC. I'm already mentally checked out. All good. All good. When were you mentally checked in? BC, obviously the goals were in our championship. Final four was always, you know, that was a huge step too. I got knocked out in the lead eight. What were your best memories from going there, I think twice, right? Twice, back to back. Best memories was obviously getting there. After that, you know, freaking Mike Bivvy, my first year as a freshman goes crazy on us. And we had, we had, we were up at half and, you know, Lou, you said something, you just forget, you don't forget that. And then the second year we lose to Utah, and Andre Miller decides he wants to get a triple double against us. Oh yeah. And yeah, and they ended up losing to Kentucky. So, but fond memories and it's funny, I talked to Antoine Jameson literally yesterday and we were bringing up college basketball. And obviously we briefly talked about our time. And, but yeah, I know, you know, three days ago, it was the anniversary of Darwin Ham, shattered in class against us. Texas Tech, yeah, that too. That was a good tournament too. That's crazy to think that that even, by the way, we have Mike Bivvy on the show next week. If you have any messages or anything you want us to relay, we can do that for you. Hi Mike. Okay. Hi Mike, that's it. Okay, perfect. Nailed it. Can we talk to Anthony Edwards dunk for a second? Because obviously an amazing dunk happens and people think of you automatically. They need to think of Blake Griffin also. That's fine. I know there's a lot to talk about that as well. Because he had one of those similar. I know. I didn't really see that controversy, by the way. But have you seen anybody go into concussion protocol from getting the most tournaments? Ever. Because I've never seen this. Hey, I've never seen this. First of all, we're talking about one of my former teammates. So I'm going to tread lightly. Me too. I love John. We are teammates with him together. We all play with him. We play with him at the same time, man. Oh, buddy. I wasn't on the court, but I was in the locker room. Yeah, I do recall. Yeah, I mean, particularly when you're talking about a guy who had the nickname John the Baptist. Right. You know, for him to be on the other end. I mean, it's just one thing, John. Right. There. There is what he said. That was a bad decision. He's too high. Bad business. Man. And yeah, he caught up. Right to the cheekbone. And that was it. But like it's one thing. I mean, both of them had intentions. One had intentions to block and the other one had bad intentions and super athlete wins. There were people. And it's crazy saying that because John is a super athlete. Right. But not like that. They were people actually trying to pick this dunk apart yesterday. I know. He didn't touch the rim. It's not an actual dunk. Okay. You know who said that? People who never dunked a basketball. That's harder than dunking and actually grabbing a rim and dunking a basketball. That's right. Because if you look at young guys up, exactly. Because if you have to be high enough, ladies and gentlemen, you have to be high enough to be able to throw the ball in. You can't just be fingertip and then talk about, I'm going to throw it in because it's not going to happen. You have to be high enough. He was close. Correct. He was close enough to the rim to throw the ball in. He was close enough to throw the ball in. He was close. Correct. He was close enough to the rim to where I don't consider to throw it. There's been some dumps that, you know, from a distance and still you have to be high enough to even throw the ball in. I mean, go for you, but for you who've never done, go to an eight foot rim and just try to throw it in. This dunk is a 10 out of 10. By the way, There are flaws in this in this highlight. This is how I know. We didn't even address this as being a contrary. We didn't even bring it up. And then I leave the show yesterday morning and listen to sports talk radio and everyone's like, well, was it even a dunk? We didn't even ask that guy. He says a guy who's never dunked the best ball ever in your life. Like, bro, shut up. That's kind of what I thought it would be. That's the nastiest dunk. Thank you. It was also, it gave us life. Would he win a dunk contest? If he were to enter next year, where do you think he'd be? I don't know. I mean, it's, it's, so I'm the wrong person when it comes to this. And, you know, he's super athletic. It's about his imagination. I think he has some imagination. Obviously he jumps out of the gym. So I think he has the time. John, John Collins, you know, jumps extremely high and is the super athlete. And he was in the dunk contest. And a lot of fun. Interesting. I think he would do well. So I just look at, you know, imagination. I do think he would do very well in the dunk contest. Can we not even ask this? But I just want him to take it seriously. Would he beat Mac? Would he beat, well, he beat him around. We don't know if he's just like a good in-game dunker. He might just be an in-game dunker. By the way, same with Ion's. Ion's saying he's, if he makes the game next year, he's going to want, maybe he doesn't have like, maybe he's just powerful, like in-game physical dunker. So why don't we put like three dudes on the court and simulate a game. We want to see it because they're superstars and that they show in their balance, but that doesn't mean they're necessarily good contests. But Beto, think about this. Okay. If you did that, all right, and you're talking about a dunk contest instead of in-game. Yeah. Will you be just as wild? You know, I think it'll lose. It's pop because it's a dunk contest and you're looking for a trick more so than... Right. You know, if you just take a guy up, oh, go block my dunk and dunk it. Like, you're like, okay, that was cool. So we changed the judge. He's like more in a dunk contest. No, but if he did that dunk jumping over like Shaq or Yao Ming, I don't think we'd think it's that cool. Like, we've never seen him go between the lines. No, you're right. We've never seen him do a windmill, anything like that. We've seen him dunk through people. Yeah. I mean, I've seen him do windmills, but like I said, a regular windmill in a dunk contest does not wow you enough in a dunk contest as it would in game. In a game, yeah. Especially when it said, and one, stop the game, replay. Like in a game is much more impressive. Yeah. You see that dunk, if he did that same dunk in the dunk contest, you're just like, oh, okay. Like you said, six, seven, eight, maybe dependent, you know, but I don't think it... We need some technology. We need a game simulation dunk contest. Yeah. Good luck. We need the smart people to figure this out. You're not going to have guys playing. Some things we're going to leave AI out of it. Right, one. And for two, I just think it's just come to guys in their imagination. Just look at the history of the dunk contest. It was guys who took their imagination to the next level. That's what I wanted to do. Like, arm in a rim. I was like, all right, let's do something different. Obviously I had to execute it, but let's be different. You know, Matt McClung giving you something different. And then you look at his height, jumping over guys and still throwing it backwards. You just have to have an imagination. And guys just got to think through it a little bit, you know? I think it's going to be him. I think it's going to be him. And let me be the last to say this. There are more dunks out there. Stop saying people out there. Stop saying there's nothing else you can do. Well, go on YouTube and look at some of the guys out there in the street, what they're doing. Again. There's dunks out there. It's not a lot of people that have the imagination or the balls to try it. Again, VC, we're talking about people who have never dunked a basketball. Keyboard warriors. I love those guys. So, VC, do you think Anthony Edwards is the best shooting guard in the NBA just 22 years old? I think he's one of the best throwing right now. And he's playing with a lot of confidence, swagger. He believes it. And those are the scariest guys to play against. It's like, you know, I think about Cole. We all knew Cole was great, but he knew he was elite. And guys who have the ultra green light like Cole did was tough. I think Anthony is right there. He believes he's the best player. And those are the scariest ones and the toughest to guard. And he's showing it at the same time. I don't know. I'm still picking my guy. Chandler's looking at Devon Booker over there. I think Devon Booker is probably the best shooting guard. Oh, is that what you're doing? I'm just looking at if you... I mean, Luke is a point, right? Anthony Edwards has arrived. Anthony Edwards is... Honestly, he's probably second or first. He's dead nice. All right. So, VC, another thing. I've been reporting on a lot of the names for Team USA Basketball Potentially this job. It's LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, Joe LMB, Jason Tatum, Drew Holiday, Devon Booker, potentially Anthony Edwards as well. You know, I did a report yesterday. He feels like he wants to go into it and try to start on that team. Who do you believe will be the best starting five for USA Basketball this summer? Oh, man, that's tough. I mean, right now, I think Team USA is going to put the best product on the floor. And you can't go wrong. By the way, I don't know if you mentioned Bam out of bio. I think Bam needs to be on there. And a big enough big who can rebound and start to break with all that scoring and can pass. I think Bam would be a great addition if you said... I'm not sure if you said that or not, but I think you can't go wrong either way. I think the toughest position as a... the job as a coach is to figure out who you're going to start, but you want the scoring... You want balance scoring. You want scoring coming off the bench. So I'm not opposed to having Anthony Edwards coming off the bench. Devon Booker coming off the bench scoring either because somebody's not going to be in rhythm because they're used to being the go-to guy. And that's usually the toughest challenge for it. I think these guys, when you put a, you know, an Olympic or all-star team together. Vince, Chandler and I are looking at it. We got the same four. It's basically going to be who's the fist heart. It's going to be Steph, KD, LeBron and Joelle. Correct. So who's going to be like that two guards? It's going to be Jason Tatum? Tatum or... I think Tatum. I think he's the next up. And what's wrong with coming off with a Booker and Anthony Edwards? Right. It doesn't matter. And just give me a facilitating big. And then if you have BAM, BAM coming off like, like, oh, my gosh, man, they have... I think they're going to make a statement this year. They're going to put the best lineup on the floor to blow them out and they're going to beat people to death this year just because of the whispers. I still think because Canada is going to be very good. Spain is going to be very good. So we need to put our best product. France, exactly. France. France is going to be good. Yeah, they need to put the best product out there because I feel like those teams right there alone, you know, are going to give people problems. I just think the USA, I think they're going to try and beat the breaks off. I think the show should go to Paris. We have to. You know what I mean? We have to. We have to. Like Vincent, we have to, Michelle. I mean, it's only the pride of a nation. It's going to Paris. It's just our first long road trip. Yeah. National road trip. All right. That's a different long trip. That's a long road. What's it like playing for Team US? I mean, I just pictured it as like a movie montage where you walk in and everyone's like, oh, but is it? It's next level. It's next level. I can't even, you know, I can't even explain it. It's like, I mean, obviously playing in the all star game. Obviously, but there's a lot more in the line. It's like, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you can't even compare anything to it because you're representing your country more. So because I was like, it's like being on that great AAU team traveling plans against the best, but it's like, it's next level because you're playing for your country. If you guys do go, I do recommend going to opening ceremonies. It was unbelievable. More so than anything, you know, the two things that I take with me was opening ceremony and obviously. Here in that anthem, when you're receiving the gold medal was two of the most iconic, unbelievable moments. You see it on TV and it just gives you chills. But being a part of it was nothing like it. They got AirBnBs in Paris. Yeah, they got AirBnBs in Paris. They've also lifted the intimacy ban on the village through a thousand condoms being handed out. So we got that going for us. What? In the athletes' village. Because last time it was COVID. It was COVID. Yeah, that's true. In Japan. In Japan, they had, it was, it was, that's the thing. Yeah. I just read that. It's back, baby. I did the math. It's like 20 per athlete in the village. It's just a lot. 20 condoms and athletes? Yeah. All right. Okay. Moving on. That's an event in itself. See, I got their attention. He's Louise. Can we talk Zion Williamson? Because he gets a lot of heat for a variety of reasons. But he's averaging. Yeah, I got you. 23, 6 and 5. I know I could have brought up all kinds of stuff there, couldn't I? He's only missed 11 games this season, by the way. That's the praise that we should be talking about. We don't only talk about the pelicans at all, which is weird. Has he made a move to maybe reestablish himself in some people's minds that he's an all star? Two things I'm going to say. Confidence and believing in what the organization is selling and put around him. I think those are two things that are huge for him because it was like, is he going to come back? I don't know. He's also being traded. That's all we kept hearing about. The spat, him not coming in the workout, blah, blah, blah, to this. And I think we all knew he has the ability. If he was there, you look at the pelicans and how good they were without him. Now you add him. Now he's playing the point for it, which I really like because Stan, shout out to Stan Van Gundy, who people kind of questioned it before, but it opens things up for him. Yes, I still think I would love to see his rebounding go up. I just think he's dominant and that just takes them to another level come playoff time, but his ability to create willing passer and then you put him with a second unit where he can be your go-to guy as far as scoring. I like what the pelicans are selling. I watched them play. What was that? The Clippers and they have everything you need outside of the experience. So they're going to be a tough out. He also looks like in peak shape like we've seen over the last few years. What do you see from him from a physical perspective and also translating that into his game? It's always been my thing for him. Great athlete, jumps really high. If you're talking about 280, 290, 300, whatever he was going up, coming down, that's a lot. How long will he be able to do that? He looks in good shape. He's moving. It was a move he had on the baseline, just one dribble to the middle, spin back. I mean, he's already strong but he's quicker. I mean, that's what I'm saying. I think he's committed to the growth and the success of this organization now and that's a great sign for the pelicans. Yeah, just missing 11 games, too. And this dude came in with such high expectations. He had unfortunate injuries, health. He's been kind of ran through the media and the mud and I'm just happy to see him on the court. And the pelicans, no one's talking about them. They're the 50. They've had a great year. Everyone's talking about the Clippers, the Suns, the Nuggets. This team, obviously they haven't done it before, so we don't trust them. But they've had a hell of a season. I like how you say everyone. Yeah, but Chela, you know this better than anyone as far as injuries. You can't gain weight. You can't have more weight when you've had those type of injuries, lower body extremity injuries like he's had. You have to lose that weight to keep the pressure off, especially playing the sport that we play. There's a lot of running, a lot of pounding, a lot of side to side shifting and whatever. And I think he's now committed and that's why we're seeing 11 games missed fifth in the West. You can just physically see it on him, too. Yeah, he looks better. The guns are out, baby. Vince, love you. I hope you can find yourself a nice puffer coat and really bundle up when you venture back outside today. Best of luck. Stay warm, man. That's all right. That's the main warmers. You know where I'm going. Take a quick break. We'll be back with, on the other side. Johnny Poo's ball, baby. Yeah! That's from right back returns. Run it back. Run it up. Run it back. I've got the will to survive. I've got the energy. I've got the energy. I've got the energy. I don't even need to read the accolades because it's Johnny freaking Manziel and I think that's kind of how we start this thing. And you're here because Chandler, he swore he would get you on this show one day and it's finally happening. I thought he was failing. I gotta be honest with you. Better late than never, but you are party to the party, dude. No, he's here. Never late is better, Chand. Never late is better. That's true. By the way, how do you two know each other? How does this friendship, only hell could muster up come to be? I guess right now I just get hustled on the golf course weekly, so that's about what our friendship is on right now. Yeah, we met a while ago. Me and Chand go back a long ways. From his days in Houston, from his time he spent in Dallas with the Mavs. I mean, this is really probably 10, 12 years into this friendship right now and somebody I truly call a dear friend and we have a lot of fun. That's like a legit friendship. Yeah, we want to throw back there on that picture there. Jesus. It's a nice house you had, Jen. Huh? Throw them in the water. It's a nice house you had there. I know. Which house was that? Unclear, Michelle. Put it on the move for a while. Juice, I was telling them about, so when I put on the Grizzlies, Johnny was on the Memphis, as an XFL team, and Joe Keem know was there. We had a whole, we had a squad and basically me and Johnny were living together for this time period. So anything in particular, remember me busting that ass and ping-paw or any situations in particular? Oh, it's a house. We had a great system going in Memphis. Me and Chandler and Joe Keem would take bird scooters to the games in Memphis and it really was a great time to be there even though it was a short amount of time. Chandler's always been a really good friend to me. Always allowed me to hang around, be in the NBA circles, so I get to feel like a hooper at times. Can you go back to Memphis, by the way, because Chandler cannot go back to Memphis. I think I'm going to go on Friday for my Texas A&M, you know, Aggies in the tournament. Please wear my Grizzlies jersey, Johnny. Please wear my jacket. He's going to get his sword out. You might get sniped. You might think it's you. Oh, God. I might think it's you. I think I'm going to be all right, Chandler. I do have that jersey, so I may have to bust it out as I sit. By the way, that was the best thing. So he comes to Memphis. It's a huge deal. Johnny Manziel is going to play football there. I'm, like, been lauded in that city when he comes there. And, literally, his first game, he wears my jersey. Oh, my God. Walking in the tunnel to his football game. That's a good friend. It was a bold move, Johnny. It was a bold move. Thank you for that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Johnny, I want to ask you this. We play golf together. You're a stick, by the way. Damn, you're a scratch golfer. Who would be your dream foursome if you had to pick? And I mean, I'll go on the golf course. Yeah, clarify that. Thank you. Thank you for the clarification, Chandler. I would put you in there. I enjoy playing golf with you a lot. You're a good time. You're a good gambler. I would put Tiger in there as well. You have to play golf with Tiger Woods in that foursome. And for a fourth spot, I got to find somebody who's cooler than you. So I'll probably take Brady. Yeah, good luck. Brady, you said? See, I want like a John. Give me John Daly. Give me someone in there really spice things up. John Daly. Yeah, we know what you like. However, times have changed in my life, Chand. I'm a little more calm, cool, and collected at this point in my life. I love that for you. Tom Brady's cooler than you. No chance. Okay, fair enough. So, Johnny, did you play football and what made you give up? Oh, no. Did you play basketball and what made you give up basketball for football, baseball, anything else? Yeah, my dad made me give up basketball. You know, I was, man, I was too small and I was too white. So that was really what it comes down to. Happy both. There's only like eight of us in the league, trying to slim pickets. Johnny, I see the video of you dunking a basketball, man. Can you still dunk? Can you still get on the rim? Can you still get on the rim? And who would you model your game after? There you go. I mean, I think I'm like a Zion. I think I'm like a Zion. Williamson, to be honest. It's not a stick. That's really what I think it is. But I don't know if I can dunk any more, man. I would love to go out and try it. I'm going to have to find out if I can this week. This was years ago. And I know I don't have to. This is impressive, though. This is pretty good. This is impressive. I appreciate it, but I got Chandler Parsons' knees these days. Yeah. They can't be that bad, coach. They cannot be that bad. Johnny, we always talk about the goat quarterback of all time in a fellow. People say Tom Brady, obviously. Is Pat Mahomes have an argument? Who do you think the goat is? The goat in my eyes probably still, man, I have a different opinion. I love Michael Vick. But that was just the way. That was just the running style in this. You're going to really call the goat. Mahomes is well on his way, but you got to go win six, seven Super Bowls to go beat Brady. Michelle's a real dog lover. I just was like that. I have all the names. I'm like, that's not the one I thought was coming out today. Oh, man, that is so good. What was the question? Could have been better. Fair enough. Oh, you got more? Back to your point, though, Chand. I mean, Mahomes is the guy. Right now, everybody's got to go knock him off. I mean, what he did in the Super Bowl this year, the last couple of years. I mean, how can you not love that guy? You get a chance to spend some time around him. I know you guys are homies. So who's doing it better than Mahomes right now in any sport? And now NBA-wise, you got MJ or Braun? I mean, that's just like, what are we going to sit up here and have the same debate you guys have every single day? That's why you're a pit... By the way, me and Lou think it's Braun. I mean, I've been a Braun guy my whole life. But MJ is hard to... Can I be a Kobe guy? For sure. Yeah, absolutely. For sure. I love the bomb of mentality. That's right on my alley. Couple weeks ago on Club Shay-Shay, you mentioned that you wouldn't do anything Heisman-related until Reggie Bush, as Heisman is returned back to him. I'm just curious to know, has anybody reached out to kind of bridge that gap, or no? Yeah. I kind of reached out to myself a little bit. I called a lot of former winners. I think a lot of guys who are, some of the newer, more recent winners feel the same way that I do. Good. I won't throw anybody's name out there or anything like that. But I went and did the due diligence on my own to reach out, call the trust, make sure that there weren't any issues with what I was saying and what was going on and really try and get everybody on the same page because that's what it comes down to. This is a very important situation, not only to me, but Reggie, a lot of the young guys. We've had talks and I think we're in a better place now than we were a couple of months ago. A month ago. Dude, so obviously, NIL is like the biggest thing right now in college athletics and you would have been severely paid in that aspect. What would it have taken for Nick Saban in Florida? What kind of bag are we talking to drop to leave A&M and go to one of those schools? Probably the same contract you got in Memphis. That's a heavy contract, coach. I don't know about that. It is, but nevertheless, I always give you some crap for it. It was well deserved, so don't let anybody ever give you shit and I know you won't. Thank you, coach. Also, the NCAA football, the video game was coming back and you definitely would have been the next cover athlete for that. Did you ever think about that? Like how things would have been if the rules were now? Yeah, I mean, I definitely think about it. I think it's something that I still have a want and a desire to be a part of the game. For me, being able to be in the last year of the video game that they had and be the best player in that game, me and Clowney was kind of dope because I still throw that on an Xbox and I'm able to go back and play it and I play that game my whole life growing up. I enjoyed it. I'm excited that it's coming back. I just really hope that they find a way to incorporate a lot of the old Heisman winners and make it cool because I think it's something that they need in the world right now as far as video games go. And your number one guy at A&M was Mike Evans. I know you speak volumes of him all the time. Where does he rank in your opinion of receivers of all time? I mean, right now he's the first ball at Hall of Famer, walking and still playing. What he's done as far as 1,000-year-hard receiving seasons, only other person that has done anything near that or remotely close is really Randy Moss and he's still at this point in time. Mike is blazing his own path. He's absolutely crushing it, got a new contract back in Tampa with Baker. So the sky has the limit for Mike just because of who he is as a person and who he is as a football player. So I rank him at the top of the list as far as people that I've got a chance to play with and just, you know, true brothers in the sport of football. So, Johnny, I know you were at the Drake Show a couple nights going OKC, Shay Gillespie, Xander, Holmgren also were there. First of all, that's a lot of stars out there. Did you get a chance to link up with any of them? What's your impression of them from afar? They're awesome. I mean, I love both of those guys. I got a chance to say what up to them for just a second. But, you know, I kind of stay in my lane. I kind of mind my own business for the most part. And, you know, I'm there to enjoy the Drake Show. But any time I walk by any of the NBA guys or any of the young bucks like that, like young bucks, I say, I don't know why I feel like I'm so old. You know, I get a chance to go say what up. So, you know, I'm always trying to put out some positive energy and some love whenever I meet these guys. And, you know, they're great players. They're great dudes and I wish them nothing but the best. So I think that's what I get a chance to portray whenever I see them. You know, it's dope being around greatness in settings like that. And I think that's what Drake does the best is, you know, he allows some of the greatest people in sports and music and around the world to get a chance to come together. And, you know, that's why I love those shows and I got a chance to do it again the other night. So it's always a good time when Drake comes into town. I know Lou loves this next question. Back in 2020, we got the Magic City Wings. You said, believe it or not, the Chicken Wings at Magic City are the best I've ever had. What the hell's in these things? It's a good product, man. I don't know. But whatever they got going on there is really, really good. And once again, I'm thankful to my great friend, Chandler Parsons, because I didn't go in there alone. There we go. By the way, if we're ever back to, Lemon Pepper Lou was obviously the guy, Johnny. And I went recently and they were just as tasty. We have to go. We have to go. Can I go? Yeah, I do a lot of shows. Johnny, my last question is, obviously, I know you got a lot going on. You know, the world, what's the world expect now coming up from Johnny football? Sports media, what do you got on tap? Yeah, I got a lot coming. Kind of playing it close to the vest right now with what's coming on. I'm coming back to LA this week. I'm going to take some money of yours on the golf course. I'm going to hang out. I'm going to enjoy. I'm kind of finding out where my body is right now and where next steps are as far as sports. So, you know, life is good. I'm happy, healthy, and that's just really where I'm going. Can you guys please take Lou on the golf course and then get some videos? Come on, Lou. I've literally never been on a golf course before. This has to happen. That's all. 37 years old and then we've been on a golf course. Yeah. We got you, bro. Don't worry. But you can't take money from it. Like, that's the rule, right? No, no, no. We won't please them. Just for me. First time in a job. We won't please them now. We'll protect you, Lou. No. It'll be fine. We got you. Next week. I appreciate it. I'm rolling. We got a minute left, Chandler. Anything you want to share? That's it, Johnny. I'm happy for everybody, for real. I love now for you. Everybody, I wish you would tell them about that little street you went on in Dallas. That little Lucky Rabbits foot run. You got on there. That is true. There was a time in Dallas also where Johnny stayed with me for about a good month. And I think I averaged 25 for that month. Oh, wow. It was called Johnny My Little Rabbits Foot. And by the way, we would go. We'd drop 25. We would go out. We would party. And we would still do it the next night. And it was just rinse and repeat. And it was my good luck charm. I want to hear the best going out story. Oh. That's PG-13. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if this is the show for... 20 seconds left. I said PG-13. We had a great speech toast on Martin Luther King Day one time. What? We had a... Hold up. Wait, wait. We had a great... Exactly. Great Cabo trips. There's nothing that we can really talk about. Don't worry about it. We'll tell you after the show. If you think we're done starting the show tomorrow... It was a hell of a speech, Deuce. With the end of today's show, Lou and I have questions. Deuce, Johnny. Appreciate it, buddy. Appreciate it. Thank you. See you guys. Thank you for having me on. We'll see you all tomorrow. Run it back. Run it back. Run it back. Run it up. Run it back. Yeah, yeah.