 It was like 85, 84 when I first, you know, I was playing music, but I needed to, you know, the whole rock scene was real groovy at the time. It was the summer of 85. Yeah, summer of 85. I needed to manage it. That's when I got with him. I just think the importance of management, you know, it's different contracts. I really didn't care about country. I just wanted to rock. And you can tell you more about the manager side. Well, you know, I started off managing, you know, Ron Jovi and Sammy Summertime. And, you know, I came across this guy, you know, he was a BS, a bathroom sinker, you know, one of the motherfuckers that sound really good in the bathroom. A lot of water is coming out of the faucet. So I signed him to a management deal slash, you know, labeled. I was his manager. I was his label. I was all in one. Everything 80, 20, you know, 80% me, 20% him, you know, and he sold a lot of records He sold a lot of albums on Riving You Records, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, he, you know, he did his thing. He didn't make a lot of money, but he did his thing. You know, this is a time where, you know, it wasn't really about the money with me. It's about just being creative and really just being a being a part of the groove that was going on in the scene. I really didn't care about money. You know, I was just like, I just love touring the hotel lifestyle, the partying. And that was what I loved the bottom the most. He didn't care about the money, you know, because when you sign a new residual management, you can't be expecting no motherfucking money. You know what I mean? We get you the honeys, but we don't give you no money. You know what I mean? We get your dicks up, but you ain't getting no bucks. You hear me? So, you know, I was just really being at the time. I was really one with the earth. I don't really think money is really important. I don't know if a lot of you guys are, you know, people that's out, people that's out here now in the need management. I don't know what to tell you. What do you have advice for any guys that out here that need managers? I'll get with no residual management. How do you feel about the managers out here today? Well, the managers out here today is bullshit. Why is that? They let motherfuckers pay them 20 percent. You know, hold on, wait, this is motherfucking lawyer. Let me talk to my lawyer. Bernie, how you doing? Kelly, how are you? I never had a bad day in my life, Bernie.