 Hello, everyone. I'm Carrie Shockross, and this is I Have Notes, a show where people with a surprisingly long IMDb list talk all things creative, animation, and just kind of whatever we want to talk about this week. I'm joined by my amazing co-host, Issa Badiola. Hi. Whoa. It's me. Whoa. And then we're also joined by Erin and Jordan. Hey. Classics. We're still here. We're still here. Y'all continue to be my favorite guests. And I mean that. Follow my Erin's cat. Is that my cat? My cat is a new addition. Yes. I want poofy. Hopefully her purrs won't be picked up by my mic. Maybe we can start like an ASMR cat therapy channel. Oh, 100%. I am so for it. I feel like maybe we could use something like that right now. I agree. She's going crazy. It's been a time. Yeah. For posterity's sake, we're recording this at the beginning of June in 2020. Yeah. It was a crazy weekend. It's been a crazy weekend. A lot of protesting. And I don't think we necessarily want to get political on this show, but I think we all feel strongly that a lot of voices need to be heard. So I think we can talk about this a little bit more at the end, but yeah. Now is a great time to prop up people whose voices should be heard. And we'll have some links at the end, but I think now would be a great time if you have the ability to donate to do that. Because there's a lot of people that could use help right now. And even if like just raising awareness. Retweets. Yeah. Petitions. Trying to educate people who don't see why the things that are happening is a problem. Yeah. Very helpful as well. Because there are a lot of things that are happening right now that are problems. Yeah. It's been a draining weekend. It's been a draining year. It has. It really has been. Something's happening every month. Yeah. I promise we're going to get positive in a minute. Or at least try to. Let's do it. Let's face the reality of the situation. Yeah. That's the thing. It's like I think we all need like those like pockets of positivity, but I don't want to ignore that like, yeah, this shit's bad right now. Yeah. I also like I want to I want to say this very, very firmly too, is that I'm a white dude. If you couldn't tell. If you've just ever only listened to this podcast, it might surprise you to find out. It might surprise you to find out that I'm white. Whoa. This is the first time I'm learning that you're white. Yeah. So, you know, I, I'm not the voice you should be listening to. We should be listening to voices in the black community and the other, you know, people of color communities and people who have been oppressed and are being oppressed right now. But I just want to do everything I can to support them. That's that's basically been this weekend is what can I retweet? What can like, where can I donate money? Yeah, I've seen a lot of interesting kind of on a positive note. Like it's kind of progress where it's people who have in the past acknowledged that they probably wouldn't speak up about this because it doesn't impact them. And it's not really what they feel like is, is their cause to talk about have kind of realized that if more people speak up about, you know, police brutality and injustice and the discrimination that people of color face that, you know, it really draws attention to it and makes it feel like an actual issue and not just that communities issue. Like, and I feel hope that, you know, people will keep talking about it and these people will still like prop up the voices that need to be propped up. And that's something that even I have like experienced in the past where it was like, I feel uncomfortable talking about an issue that doesn't affect me. Because I don't want to be seen, you know, necessarily as just some white dude who's coming in and, you know, trying to like, either take the spotlight or, you know, like something, but I feel like that is kind of a dumb thing to worry about right now. I think worrying about everybody's well-being and everything else is more important. I completely agree. I had just similar moment myself of just like, my first initial reaction was like, you know, I shouldn't talk about this stuff because it doesn't relate to me, but that's exactly why I should talk about this, why all of us should talk about this. To me, that's why it is important. Yeah, it's difficult to talk about. Therefore it's important. Right. And I've had some difficult discussions with certain people. Yeah. This weekend. Yeah. You should definitely use your white privilege to help prop up those who can't speak. It's true. Yeah. It's just, yeah, doing it in a way that isn't exploitive, I guess. Yeah. I don't know. It's very difficult. Yeah. It's very tiring. Tiring and heavy, heavy subject. It's a lot. I mean, this is a great place. Yeah. I don't know. As kind of the one brown person in one brown person out of probably like 15 or 20 in the entire company. I think something that I kind of take to heart as well. Oh no, guys. Sorry. I'm emotional. This is how I deal with stuff. This is a good time to be here. It's tough. I was just talking about this too, Maya. So you are not, you don't ask to be born the way you are. So sometimes when identity politics kind of are the concept of your identity is kind of common to play. It's really difficult. I don't necessarily want to put that responsibility on the black community or the, or black people or people of color because that's a big emotional burden to have to educate people, which is why I think I have had a lot of conflicting feelings over the weekend because it's just been, you think awareness is really important. But also I think there's snot everywhere. Can you guys feel how shy I am right now? That's my favorite animal. I think it's been difficult for me if only because I think I feel so conflicted about it. I want to, I intrinsically want to pop up a lot of black voices and these bring awareness to these causes. I also am kind of conflicted because I feel like I just see a lot of white people on my feet. And so I think that's where my problem with bringing awareness sometimes is that I, so fun fact there's, there's a Slack channel and it's full of women from the company and there is a check in like, hey guys, how is the POC people in this company? And there's like 10 of us and everyone who responded to the threat was white and it was, it was so grating. It was so annoying and I can't like, it's, it's so hard because I think also my response to everything is also like, hey, I think we should really pressure our leaders and bigger companies who actually have brands and money and the say to do something about these is also really important to me as well because they're, that's where the power is. Exactly. Like you can't objectively, that's where power is. And I think as an individual, as individuals we have the, we have the, we do have some responsibility to come together and to make a stand and that's where our power as individuals come is if we just kind of come together, we vote, we do all these things in bigger numbers, but it's like this weird fallacy of one person may not necessarily have the power, but the group does, but then what does that mean for companies? It's, it's a lot of systems that I have been having trouble with over the weekend and just kind of talking about with my SO. Like how, what is the solution to this? What is the system? How do you break the system? Because it's like the end to police brutality. What is the solution for that? And is it, is it defunding the police? That's one thing. I don't know. It's, it's a lot of different things. And it's so hard for me ever since Trayvon Martin to figure out what that is because there's so many different voices and there's so many different sides and there's so many different people who really care about this kind of stuff. And sometimes at the end of the day, I just want to lie down and play Civilization 6. It's like really tough. It's really hard. Make your own better civilization. Yeah. If you could just beat that game and then just like turn the, turn the laptop around and just be like, Here is the blooper. Do this. I'm sorry. I'm sorry guys, I hate. No, it's totally valid. This is like that, that like thought like, like loop that you like verbalized is like, I feel like whatever one kind of goes through where it's just like, I'm so frustrated with all this stuff going on. And then you ask, well, what is the solution? And then it just seems like a more daunting task because how do you convince the people who hold the power that what's working and keeping them in power is, you know, it needs to change. But I feel like part of like getting the companies and the the leaders to acknowledge it is like the easiest step. The second part is holding them accountable to actually act on what they want changed. And I feel like we, you know, like we're in the media, we're entertainment, which really just kind of has the ability to stir pop culture, but I feel like it's still, it's a big important kind of section of society. But I feel like if people would just at the top acknowledge that they need to change something and they're going to at least try like that would make everyone feel a little bit better. And then if we just like hold their feet to the fire and like, you know, what are you doing? Like, how are you changing it? Like, I think that's how the ball gets rolling. But yeah, I, I also just feel overwhelmed with how sometimes it feels impossible. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, Issa, to your point, this is something that I, I saw somebody, somebody tweet out and it kind of, it hit me and it's something that like I'm trying to do better as well is it, it, it needs to be on all of us. And I think in my opinion, it also needs to be on the white people specifically to educate ourselves and not just turn to our, our, our, you know, our friends and say, what do you want us to do? You know, like it's not, it's not, it's, you know, it's not fair for me to look to you Issa and say, well, what should I do right now? You know, because that's not your responsibility. It's not enough going on. You know, I want you to just put a place to have six of you know, so I think, I think it's on, it's on everybody right now to educate themselves across the board. Yeah. Self-examination is also a big part of that. Yeah. And, and realizing, you know, what white privilege is and even if you've had a hard life and you've done the prototypical worked harder than everyone else and went from poverty and a hard life and you were white, your experience is not going to be the same as a black person or a Latino person or any other person of color or minority. So in some ways it's even harder for those people to realize that we're in a broken system. I, if this is, if I'm always a fan of like, let's try and find like, like humor here and there. And we can totally cut this out if this is not a good thing. My boy. No, my friend sent me a gift or it was like a video that was like white people thinking they can solve all of this by tagging people on Instagram. It was the video of somebody like mopping water from the ocean and putting it in the mop bucket. Yep. Yeah. And it's just like, we did it guys. Yeah. Exactly. It's basically like Green Book where it's just like, and then racism was solved. Thanks to me, the white person. I felt so betrayed when my sister told me that she and her friends thought that like Green Book was really good. And I was like, oh, maybe I'm sure it is, but also. Yeah. There's been a lot of millionaires, billionaires recently that have been like, yeah, I'm going to tag five of my friends on Instagram. And that's, that's it. I'm done. Like, I just wish the fucking billionaires and the one trillionaire like just did anything instead of like, you know, just watching and being like, oh, ouch, my heart like, there is something that Mariel had said and shared. And I think it was true. Oh, Mariel. Yeah. Can we just give her a hand real quick because she's been amazing. I hope. I'm pretty sure every show and podcast has, but yeah, I, I, she's been incredible. Sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you. I just, you said her name. And suddenly just a trigger. Of happiness watched over me. And I just had to like, oh, Mariel. I'm sorry. Yes. She's great. I'm also sure she's really exhausted. Yeah. Yeah. Because one of the things she had said to those that I think rings true and it's something I've been thinking about for a long time. And thinking about what I could do. Cause to me, I'm also of the belief that I do think money talks. But I think she also mentioned to like people who kind of spring up just because of this one thing that happens. And then they kind of like disappear. You know, it's, you know, it has to be a constant battle. And that's why I'm pretty weary because like I said, Trayvon Martin, you know, started unwittingly his death started Black Lives Matter. He was just the tip of the iceberg George Floyd. He's another tip of the iceberg. It's been six years. It's been so long. And I, it's exhausting. And I think this has to be something that I think people need to be aware. It's not just something that you say supportive once you do have to continue doing that. Yeah. And I think that's part of being a movement is always like, or I guess, yeah, movement. Yep. It's constantly believing in it. And also fighting for it. I think too, though, there's a man, I guess it's also like, I don't know. It's, it's a lot of thinking about the group versus thinking about the individual or thinking about yourself in this way. It's like, take care of yourself too in these instances or these cases. Look, I cried. It sucks. I'm so bad. I feel like a lot of like, a lot of the issues come up from the fact that like, there aren't really, there, there are communities, but the police are not always representative of those communities and they don't necessarily care for the people they police. And like, I don't know. Like that's one, that's one, that's one thing that we could probably change right off the bat. You know, get people from places to police those places. Yeah. I mean, I think the, the thing we've been talking about and I think it's just going to remain true is that like none of this is easy and none of it's going to happen overnight. And I think that's something that we all need to remember and be thoughtful of. You know, this can't just be this last weekend. Yeah. It has to be a continuous effort, even beyond the protest in the future. Like we just have to continue on really. Yeah. To Issa's point, like just getting involved and staying involved, like the more people that can do that is what it's going to take. To make it semi-animation related and also keeping accountability, I guess. I've seen a lot of like Twitter people discuss this where a lot of people are trying to like amplify black creators, black artists, so on and so forth. A lot of them are saying like, Hey, feel free to reach out to me if you need a job in the animation industry or entertainment industry. And to continue off of that, a lot of others, especially people of color have been saying, Hey, this is great energy, but we have to continue doing this even once these protests are done. So yeah, we definitely need to like diversify the entertainment industry as a whole. Yeah. That's actually an interesting stat too is that I think you'll notice in a lot of art schools and art colleges, there's the amount of women to men in animation programs tend to be like more than half women to men to like, it's like 60, 40, right? It's usually more women than men, but then you kind of look at the industry and you wonder why are the stats not reflecting what's happening in the education system. And it's about retention. There is a lot of young women and young people of color and young black people who are not getting the same opportunities and are not being as seen as their peers. And I think that's something really important to consider as well is just making sure you're constantly lifting up the people who don't have that platform either. And I think our industry is great for that too because I think it would be good to get more voices telling stories and more people, more voices in front of cameras. Yeah, I don't want to see another like Milana movie written by two old likes. You don't want that? I just want to clarify, you don't. I'm all for like the surface level effort of that movie, but if we can get other people involved, great. Well, it's because white people have nothing to write about themselves. It's just like. This is so bland. This is my story about male. It's like creative colonialism. Now they're branching off into other societies taking that over. Oh my God, you know, I love a good white joke. Me too. I've always been a big fan of like I wish people would make fun of white people more. It's one of my like anytime like I'm on the internet, like on Twitter or Reddit or text on whatever and I see like white people jokes. It's like my favorite. Sometimes we suck y'all and I don't know. Sometimes. A lot of times we suck y'all. So I. Okay, please. I like, I like, you know, like acknowledging that like it's a joke and also there's truth behind it because of like the institutionalized power of white people and the systemic racism that society has over people of color. And as long as you can acknowledge that it's not white racism. Reverse racism is real. If I hear one more person tell me that the word boomer or Karen is a slur. Oh my God. Jordan needed to understand people not understanding white privilege. It's you just pointed that you do this. We have to, we have to beat that out now. We have to beat out what you said. They're not going to know what you said because it's too offensive for us to put on a show. I'm not, I'm not even saying that like those are good terms either, but they're certainly not in any way the severity of other terms. Also true. Also true. Like, no, absolutely not. I guess to kind of, to kind of segue to like the kind of stuff we would normally talk about. I guess you're like the creative process. My cat's going crazy, you guys. Your cat's fed up with this too. That's the creative process right there actually. Yeah. The creative process is sometimes I kick my cat out of my house. Not literally. Not literally. Hey, I think it might be interesting to talk about trying to be creative when the world's on fucking fire. Oh no. And how hard that is. I don't know about y'all, but I mean like today was not a good creative day. Today was a good productive. It was pretty unproductive. Yeah. So I don't have an answer. I'm hoping one of you do. No. Okay, well cool. All right. End of discussion. Monday's are my busiest days. Yeah. Even when it's your job, it's like, you can't, it'd be like trying to go to work like during like something big in the news happening like 9-11 or something. Right. How would you be expected to like, yeah, let me just get the to you. And then you're just like looking over at the TV, like making sure that everything's okay. Like, and it's not okay. Yeah. You can't, you look at TV and it's like, it's not okay. Uh-oh. Yeah. I can't speak for any of the other departments, but I know for art anyways, I think our producers and our leads are very understanding of these weird times and they're, it's been, we've been trying to make it clear like our team that's like, hey, things are fucked up right now. It's okay if you're feeling real crummy and whatnot. Like it's totally valid. So. Yeah. If the pandemic wasn't making you feel crummy enough. Yeah. Well, we can just put this on top of it. I'm tired, you guys. Yeah. I'm tired too. It's been hard. Yeah. That thought crossed my mind when I looked over at our topic sheet after we were talking about or like in the middle of us talking about all that heavy stuff and I was like the first thing on our topic sheet is Sonic the Hedgehog sequel and I was like, I'm not ready to talk about the Sonic the Hedgehog sequel right now. It's only Sonic. Sonic has bookended. The Apocalypse. Oh my God. Is Sonic one of the four horsemen? Yeah. It's all four of them. The original design of Sonic is one of the four horsemen. He's probably like famine or something. He doesn't have good teeth. Exactly. He's got skinny little limbs. He's got bad teeth. Looking kind of skeletal or creepy. Oh my God. Before the movie came out I was, I did not think this movie was going to get a sequel but once it came out it seemed kind of a no-brainer to me. Yeah. I'm kind of surprised people are surprised. Well I haven't seen it so I don't know. But I do know the reaction to it has been mostly not negative. Do you know the thing that happens at the end that makes it pretty clear that there's going to be a sequel or at least play it? There's something that happens at the end? I think the original design of Sonic pops up. No. And he's like. Well the original design? You have to help me. Just come with me and then he sucks him into that universe and then Sonic looks at the camera and goes well you guys have got to figure this out. You're really close. It's actually the original Sonic design is the sleep paralysis demon for the new Sonic design. It's just in T-Pose and it's just like. He's in T-Pose but he's like getting scaled up so he's like getting close to T-Pose. Have you all ever seen Shrek his love, Shrek his life? Yes. It's that book for Sonic. Boy I haven't thought about that in years. Yeah. I think you're the one who showed me that Carrie. Oh I don't want to be the one that showed that's here. That was a different me Jordan. Well I guess I'm going to, if y'all are going to spoil the last bit of Sonic if you want to ignore this for the next 10 seconds. Sonic Cinema Universe. Spoiler warning, spoiler. The movie ends up very happy and then Tails shows up. I would have never noticed. Did none of y'all see the Sonic movie? I didn't know. Wait you did? Yeah. Okay. You didn't see the beautiful Tails moment? I did. That was beautiful. I was acting. Why is that a big deal? It's Tails. Tails is Tails. Tails is Tails. But it's not like Shadow or something. It's just like, oh hey my friend's here now. Excuse you. Hey friend. Excuse you. Why do we need a sequel now? Oh my gosh. I want to tell y'all a story. I saw that movie with a group of friends and we, that moment came up and the person sitting next to you was a huge Sonic fan. And that moment came up and I looked over her and she was just crying. Because she was so happy that Tails was there. Can I take this moment to say I don't understand Sonic fans. Oh my gosh Jordan. I feel like Sonic fans are, if you weren't there at the beginning you're not going to understand it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think any Sonic, like any Sonic fans first game was like the Sega Dreamcast one. No. That was my first Sonic game. Are you a hardcore Sonic fan? Well, I'm not hardcore, but I like it. I feel like, and you all know that we've been very clear that we are supportive of Furries. I feel like Sonic fans are like light Furries. That they don't want to commit to being Furries. But if the situation was right and the costume was right, specifically the costume is like Amy or Big The Cat. Is it like one of their names is literally Cream? It is. She's the bunny. Yeah. What do you expect me to do when I hear Cream? Go to therapy. I'm so bad. I thought her video froze, but instead it was just my face. I'm Anki. Don't talk to me. I'm Anki. Yeah. I'm interesting. My Sonic OC. His name is Nut. No, it has to be Nut the and then whatever animal. Yeah. Nut the orgasm. No. No, that would be bad. Nut the sexy squirrel. And they don't need a descriptor carry. No, I don't know. No, they don't need an adjective. He's a sexy rabbit. You know, Lola Bunny. It's the dude version. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Stop. Like low cut shorts and like you can see the V. Yep. Oh, yeah. Hey, I'm nut. Yeah. Hey, it's nice to meet you. I'm a nut. What was that one Sonic OC that was like super edge lord? Oh, I forget the character's name, but he's like nothing personal. I think this is Dave at this point. Nothing personal. My favorite pastime is to Google your name and seeing what you get. It's oh my God. So good hours of fun with your friends. I and this is the official. Obviously, this is the official. I have no stands on this. We are pro furry and I think we've made that clear from day one. But we are anti Sonic fan. Hey, I'm not a fan of us. What are they going to do? Throw cheese dogs at us or whatever. Cheese dogs with cheese I'm just kidding. A block of cheese. I was going to be like, Carrie, I know I know the person who like made the there's this big Sonic fan project called not so unleashed and not so unleashed or not so unleashed. It sucks because it sucks because like I'm know this guy ever since I worked at tip mouse and we're really good friends and and I just know him as one of the bigger Sonic fans I've ever met in my life and I was like, I'm going to send him this clip about how you're anti Sonic fan. Look at this. I okay break. Oh, what was that? Okay, breaking update. We are no longer anti Sonic fan. We are pro Sonic fan here because I just thought about the fact that probably and I am pulling this out of my ass but I'm pretty sure I'm 95% that this is accurate I think at least a third of the people in our industry right now started out doing Sonic OC that's a statistic that I would I would die for I have a really good question What was everyone's first OC Oh man if you ever made one for Powerpuff Girl I don't remember her name but her color scheme was yellow and that's she was the earliest memory I know I remember the intro for Powerpuff Girls it was sugar, spice everything nice and piss that's what it was I remember that version yep that's it you Gary I'm hiding from her I think my first I was one of those weird kids that I used to draw eyeballs on everything I still do that I used to make jets that were made out of eyeballs that's a little weird I think my first were they making them Zelda bosses pretty much I think my first OC character was for Captain Underpants that's good choice man I had a lot of I would take properties it was mostly AU stuff that I did so it would be like Pokemon characters and I would make my own comic or story based on Pokemon characters some Dragon Ball Z but I think OC wise it was probably Legend of Zelda that's cool did you make like Lincoln like what was it no it wasn't as good as Lincoln Jordan I know it was basically a self-insert the best kind of OC I used to I was a kid it wasn't original I was not talented at all I can't draw or anything like that you drew eyeballs with jets I would have never done that for good reason that's why I drew my character you would stop yourself in the middle you'd slap your own head you'd get the idea and be like that's dumb I'm reaching for my tabletan instead you're my second grade teacher trying to decide if they should call my parents or not he's drawing eyeballs again I played with Legos so much and I used to just I was very inspired by Dragon Ball Z but I used to have multi multi-day sagas of they've crash landed what are they gonna do now that was my thing I was that kid that was cute I did that with Barbies what about you it was Digimon hell yeah was it were you like a a Digimoner or were you a Digimon did the Digi Justin I'm sorry a Digimon tonight it's time to did it a duel I was definitely a Digi Justin I kept drawing my character with like those long kimono sleeves but I'd be terrible at it drawing in general it's a journey it's a journey everyone that's why I I should say we because we're all united that's why we reversed our stance on how we feel about Sonic fans because I thought about how many people genuinely that probably got started in like a creative mindset and I love that ignore what Jordan said Sonic fans are great all I said is I don't understand them and that doesn't mean that I don't appreciate and empathize with them just because I don't understand their struggle does it mean I can't prop up their voices good lord it's just like it's great yeah it's like I love knowing that we're gonna cut something out it's like a good feeling no Sam keep it in what else did we talk about this week we're talking about Sonic now other wholesome content we've been watching during these trying times oh yeah Aaron you have something yes do it I do finally it's my turn to speak I don't know if y'all saw but there was a little tweet that went viral fairly recently for an opening for a Chinese anime called All Saints Street and it is sickeningly adorable and it is very wholesome they are I guess all of the episodes are on YouTube they're about like 4 minutes each 4 minutes 30 seconds around there so you can literally watch it in an hour there's 12 episodes and it's just about this adorable little demon lord as they call him the little sheep boy down there and he goes to the world of humans because he's like a weeb for humans like I want to live with him a cool weeb for humans that's big yeah so I watched the first episode and it starts with him literally like on the plane there you go yeah he's like going on such a big for lack of a better word a big human stan yeah I'm gonna go check out clearly saying not for human culture it takes a plane from hell somehow yeah clearly he did not he's not seen 2020 because there's no reason to be a human stan right now so that the key art we posted is the animation does the animation look exactly like that yeah it's pretty good yeah that's the art style they do some interesting things too it's like they do some two and a half d stuff in like the intro it's interesting the intro slops what my cat's doing right now she wants to watch all the same street all the same street I'm gonna go throw her out real quick tell me what's interesting I mean I don't think it's like a new concept finding means again it's just a bunch of demons monsters living together in one house as roommates and you just kind of see their lives day to day see how they interact with each other how they interact with humans and you just see their wacky antics but yeah it's just really charming and refreshing it genuinely makes me smile and laugh every time I watch it is there an English dub? it's an English dub titles yeah so it's highly recommend also the opening song was done by Chinese Vocaloids which is pretty dope I was gonna ask, I just had a curiosity cause I've only seen the image we saw do anime coming out of China is not a super common thing it doesn't happen but it's not the most common thing ever do you feel like they're trying to stick to traditional anime style? I think it's very reminiscent of what westerners would consider anime style I do think there is a pretty decent Chinese anime industry I just think it rarely makes its way over to a western audience the only reason I have heard of this was because the opening was going viral on Twitter it's a very good opening, it's very well anime so what you're saying is there's more Chinese shows to watch I'm not aware of it, I need to learn I have a rec my best friend Ellen she's Chinese and she actually got me or she has brought to my awareness some shows that she's been watching and some movies actually one, there's a Chinese 3D animated movie on Netflix out right now called Nezha oh okay, I've seen this one I haven't seen it but I'm aware of it Chinese 3D movie it's based off of I think a legend that they had of old folklore I have not watched it it's on that platform my friend Ellen really loves that movie and she highly recommended it to me and another movie or show that she tried to get us as friends to watch in our friend group is called The Legend of Hay and it actually starts off yeah, it's like the black cat one it actually starts off like the St. Street anime where it's shorts but it expands into a series and you think it's about a cat it's actually about a mystical supernatural being it's a really fascinating look at something that starts off small, kind of like red vs blue and then the lore keeps building and that's the kind of stuff I really like when you say it starts out like shorts, does it go from 4 minutes to 11 minutes? I think it's consistently 4 minutes it's pretty short but there's a lot of episodes out it's seasons now I'm pretty excited Issa, I have a question he says The Legend of Hay H-E-I, yes H-E-I, okay, thank you that's cleared it up for me I knew I just didn't know, I like genuinely I didn't know how to spell it to search for it he was either going to make Hay is for horses joke or A Legend of Hay no joke, I was going to say is this a hay related thing is this a greeting related thing it's neither and that's great there was no joke you should watch it if only because the main character is like a black cat and I think you guys would love the character of Edie also by the way be raising my hand, this is a holdover we have a lot of writing meetings right now we're all, you know Miles, myself, Kiersey and Eddie we're all in a call together and this has been our just like to talk about creative process stuff we go to of somebody's talking we don't want to interrupt them but we want to say something so like we genuinely just raise our hand and wait so that people know we want to talk next yeah that's a good way to do it you kind of just like put your hand up yeah it's so funny because somebody will be talking and you just see somebody go they'll be like this for like 30 seconds because they like something somebody said makes them want to say something respect I wonder how like people or kids right now who are like going through school in a like digital teleconferencing setting are going to change certain manualisms about like raising their hand or something, you know like will people just start doing this do you think when kids go back to school they'll just like put their phone on their desk and be like what's the problem I don't know it's like how there's like the slight culture gap between like people who grew up with like corded phones and they like do the pantomime like this versus kids who only use cell phones and they do this they do this isn't even what the shape of the phone I don't talk to you you don't hold a corded phone like this it's the shape of the phone Kerry Kerry's Kerry's tired I just shove my phone into my headphones oh that's pretty good hello I fellow humans hello I uh just talking about like stuff we've been watching too this is not an ad I was not asked to do this I have HBO Max now thank you corporate overlords and I have been rewatching a bunch of G. Lee movies and which ones have you watched just this weekend Nostica of the Valley of the Wind and Whisper of the Heart and I'm going to watch Cat Returns Tonight which I've never seen Whisper of the Heart or Cat Returns non-animation they got the Fresh Prince of Bel Air it I love that show I'm not surprised I grew up with it I'm sorry oh that's awesome but uh yeah if you like I own a lot of G. B. Lee films on Blu-ray but it is just infinitely easier to be able to stream stuff having this is the first time it's everybody just like oh here's every G. B. Lee movie in front of me you can watch you can finally like just pretty nice get all the ones you haven't seen and there are a lot that I haven't seen I've probably just seen Spirited Away 100 times but um if you haven't seen Nostica please watch it it's my favorite I might do that one next this weekend we watched Hell's Moving Castle which was pretty good I did like the early adoption of some of the 3D elements and stuff like with the castle and stuff and also Billy Crystal is actually really good yeah as Calcifer like Christian Bale was like whatever I feel like some actors are cut out for voice acting and I feel like Christian Bale might be one of those people and like he didn't really bring a lot to the role in my opinion but Billy Crystal was great he was my favorite character can I say and I think I've said this before on a fan service I'm not I'm not big into the subs vs. dubs debate I just just watch whatever you want just watch whatever you want it's fine yeah sometimes I don't want to have to like read and think or I want to focus on visuals it's fine in my opinion do what you want uh please watch the Japanese dub of Kiki's delivery service I've never seen I have absolutely no problem with Phil Hartman I like his work and other things I don't think the cat should have been Phil Hartman uh it's just my opinion but I would implore you to maybe watch the Japanese dub of Kiki's delivery service if you're going to watch Kiki's delivery service or watch the English and tell me why I'm wrong but in the Japanese version it's this very like kind of typical cute like cats like young a little bit more feminine sounding cat it is a male cat but it's you know it's a lighter voice it's literally hey Kiki maybe we should go over here there's nothing wrong with what you're doing Phil Hartman I believe rest apiece I have enjoyed you on news radio and other things if I'm thinking of the right person but nobody fact check him check me now I'm just googling Phil Hartman a lot I totally get that and like a lot of it is like a nostalgia factor to where it's like what you grew up with is your preferred thing I uh if I may he has passed away uh his performance was great I just don't think it was right for the part but that is my personal opinion Jordan please go ahead I was just going to say there is there a version where it's the English dub anytime Gigi speaks it's the Japanese yeah it's uh it lives it lives in my premiere in an hour when I make it it's true yeah it should be pretty easy to do right it would make sense too because it's like an animal talking so then it's a different language and it's subtype oh my god I know Kiki is like one of our favorites we grew up on Kiki right did you see the the dub before uh John Lasseter and Disney actually took it and it was another company that had dubbed Kiki did you see that version what year did they do the re-dub the great re-dubbing because that was 2000 something I might have seen the original then to make sure I understand correctly basically every movie up to the point of Disney acquiring them had been dubbed already and Disney went back through and re-dubbed every movie the early 2000s 2004 I think they re-dubbed a couple but for the most part they kept some of the original dubs but there were decisions to edit down I feel like Gigi's voice stayed the same because I remember all the times I've seen it even before the re-dub it's still hi Kiki yeah I just I'm never that way I don't care what you watch maybe this time though I'm actually curious I want to watch the original dub of Howl's Moving Castle and see if Howl isn't a boring piece of shit oh my god I probably should that's one for the negativity I'm sorry let's make this a positive go ahead I talked about Howl's Moving Castle with Austin Hardwick because I do not actually like Howl's Moving Castle that much the love story is contrived Jordan also now that he knows he has a supporter here Jordan wants to talk I don't like Howl's Moving Castle as much and I talked about it with Austin Hardwick once because I was like yeah I just realized I'm not really into this movie and he's like what and I go yeah I don't think Howl is actually very good and Austin Hardwick like thought about it and he went oh you know what I just realized the amount that you like Howl's Moving Castle is probably proportional to how much you want to bone Howl that's why I loved it that makes sense is that why Austin liked it I looked at it and I was like so you like Howl's Moving Castle and I was like yeah he's like yeah that's what I was trying to say and then he had an awakening and he was like I'm gonna think about that it was like okay Austin Hardwick well I definitely didn't want to bone Howl because I found it very unlikable I wanted to bone Calcifer for the record he was hot I'd love for him to light my fire Related so I talked briefly about this to Issa I've discovered another Ghibli film that I'd never heard of until fairly recently called Ocean Waves and I haven't actually seen it I've only seen a video essay about it on YouTube so I'm gonna try not to face my opinions too much off of that but it sounded like it's a little bit different from what they normally do like I think if I remember correctly they allowed the animators to have a little bit more freedom with this project and it's definitely more like slice of lifey character study or character piece but it sounds like depending on how you look at it it could be seen as like Ghibli's unintentionally queer film which is kind of interesting I'll try to post the link to the video essay apparently according to the editor the movie isn't that exciting it's probably not that good but as like a queer person myself I found the idea of Ghibli even unintentionally going this route with one of their movies to be interesting it's typically a topic they've kind of stayed away from so I was like I was surprised by the existence of this movie maybe someday I'll watch it but it's interesting it's probably not on HBO Max because I've never heard of it I've never heard of that one I'm gonna blow your minds later you know drop that link we can watch it and see I'll say like I watched Ghibli movies for the most part for like artistically like what are they doing animation wise and like just appreciating the art form that they like master like usually the story is pretty slice of life or it's a little too fantastical you know it doesn't have to be good for me to enjoy it and while I have the problems with Hell's Moving Castle and it's actual story there's a lot of really cool visual stuff and I love like there's one shot they keep like showing in Sophie's hometown just the shot of the train that like the pedestrians are walking around the train goes under this bridge and stuff and then later there's during the climax there's a big battle and stuff going on and they have just that same shot and it's only for a second and like it's just like covered in fire and like stuff is exploding and you're just like you feel it a little bit more closer because of what's been established with that shot so I find moments like that like you know the real proof in the pudding same boat of like you know I don't think they're not perfect in any way nothing is except for Sonic except for Sonic of course the pacing is just incredible and like to me like how much they know when to take time and when not to I also just like you know sometimes it can be a little heavy handed and I don't always agree with everything in it but like the fact that they typically tend to try and take a political stance on things I thought was really nice I mean like you know Nassica is is all about how we're destroying the earth you know and not to not to say that it's anyway like a direct correlation to other things that are going on right now but it's like it also kind of frustrates me that that movie came out in like 89 or something like that and it's like you see how little has changed yeah and you know it again and severity wise I don't even want to relate the two but it's like that seems to be a common theme this weekend for me I guess watching that movie and seeing what was going on of like how little has changed and I feel like that's why we spent the first half of the podcast talking about that because I think we all really want to see change and yes I think we're all very frustrated how can we enact change Kerry what's a good way to do that well I'm going to be the first to say that I don't know every single place that's going to be good to donate I know that there are a lot of local towns and cities that are opening up donations the NAACP is great the RT Twitter tweeted out a link to a handful of places that are great to donate was there you mentioned one yeah the one Kerry mentioned the NAACP that's always a really great program to donate to something that would be I think really beneficial and really productive is the NAACP Legal Defense Fund don't know just google it for the website I unfortunately don't have it up right now but that one helps fight for civil rights law organization racial justice through litigation advocacy and public education color of change is another organization there's this national action that there's a lot of different stuff happening all around Black Lives Matter is also a very big thing as well and lots of I think at the beginning of the weekend the Minnesota Freedom Fund was getting a lot of attention and they're directing everyone else to try and spread their large donations to other other groups on top of that so there's a lot of street medic groups there's a lot of other protesters as well that are still trying to feed the protesters on top of making sure there's harm reduction so continue to look through those sites because more than likely they'll have affiliates and they'll also link and direct you to other groups that will say our brothers and sisters need help here and that is where you can direct your funds and your attention to as well and really $5 helps $50 helps $500 help a retweet helps you know if you can't if you're not in a position to do that I don't think you should feel ashamed of that but you know there's still things people can do but you know I think yeah we all want to see change and it's got to come from all of us though yeah make sure you know we as peers co-workers friends we should all hold each other accountable to do better you the listeners and the fans hold us accountable you know make sure we stick with the fight and keep trying to like fight for change and we'll try to keep inspiring you guys to do the same and with that we have there's another episode of I Have Notes less important than all those things is if you want to rate and subscribe to us that's cool if you're not already tell your friends about us yeah tell your friends about us but that's that's less important right now stay safe you know do things for yourself I think that's important and have a great week y'all bye