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Thank me later man. Hey man. Listen man a guy we got here today y'all I'm you know y'all if y'all watch boss talk 101 y'all already see the posters and stuff in my store I've been supporting these hold this whole death row movement the old one not the new one. I don't know the new one Yeah, wow New one Oh, I'm from the old school like man. Listen man. This guy right here man. Hey Danny boy Man Listen bro, you got so much History in you, bro. Thank you like and I'm gonna be honest with you y'all you old cats I call you old cuz y'all from the 90s you was a young old nigga with the niggas But now look you see now you still thriving man you look good man Thank you. It's popping man. Like I said, but just to be able to you know sit down with you here in Chicago Third time welcome to the city doing a boss talk one-on-one. Yeah check it man I'm gonna let mr. Maker. She go she gonna start this thing. All right, man. Let's get you guys because you know He loves the music he loved all of that, but I like to get to know you as a person Cuz I I do love music especially singers love it, but Born and raised here in Chicago, right? Yes. What part the west side of Chicago. We call the west side, Illinois I do Cuz I hear people talk about the south side What's the difference between the south side and the west side? Oh, man the way that we The way we move. I mean, you know to me, I guess you have to be from the city We're all alike so to say but like you kind of know like if you from Chicago It just take a few minutes just kind of way that we talked some of us talk Absolutely, and and just kind of where we act. Yeah. Yeah, I mean back in the day south side was a little more bougie Than the west side was known as a like, you know the middle of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but uh, you know things so bad It's it's all the same now. Okay. I'm from Chicago Stomped down. Yeah, so when you born and raised with your mom and dad in the household. Yeah born and raised with my mom Yes, I am cuz you know how that is not common. All right. Oh, yeah, it's tough. We'll talk about that. Yeah So and you how many siblings I had seven Seven symbols with my mom and my dad. She has a daughter my sister I lost two. Yeah, I lost two sisters back in I think 2010. Wow. So you were the first second third I am the baby baby boy Yeah, I was I was a mama's boy mama's boy. I was okay, so How what was it like being a baby with all were they were your siblings like your parents to you? Well, I guess I guess you can say that you know what I mean coming up in that day anybody that was kind of older and You know what I mean kind of had like that that parent Movement with you. They can tell you to go to bed and get in the house and things like that All of my sisters and brothers are older older than I am But my mom was pretty sick when I was coming up really so I had a lot of Adult-like responsibilities What was wrong? Do you mind? Absolutely. Um, she suffered seven strokes when she was pregnant with me And seven strokes pregnant with you, but of course it didn't affect you Yeah, absolutely. I never heard that before. Yeah, she had seven strokes and it left her with a speech impediment and out of all of my Siblings and actually out of my mother's siblings I was the only person to really kind of understand every word. So it was like That's crazy like a blessing. Oh, absolutely. I was in you understood every word. It was nothing she could say That I maybe I just like uh, what was that and she was saying? Oh, she just said this that's what you said. Yep, exactly. So I can see why you were probably so close to her because of that Yeah That's like that's like touching to me. Wow So, um So you're very protective of her too. I was back then she's still here. No, she passed when I was 16 years old When you were 16. Yeah, she passed. How did that affect you because oh my god. I was um Such a big effect because you know, I think I was in my second year of being around death row records And uh, you know, when you when you young you always dream of the things that you wish to do for your parents, right? And uh, you know while being there in california recording She got sick, but she was suffering um during this time From heart failure and heart problems. So she had had triple bypasses and You know a few things going on with her heart. Yeah, my dad had a triple bypass and he lived for some years till he eventually passed away But did she pass away in her sleep? Because uh, so no, she actually had a heart attack February the f february the 8th Of 95. Yeah, my dad in 96. Really? Yeah, we canceled. I was there. Yes. It's something So you weren't even here when it happened you were in california. I had to fly back Wow fly back And uh come to that. Yeah Man, it's sometimes I know some people never get get over that You know, some people can't understand how to feel that void even though you left here to be an example Sometimes people can't figure it out. You know what I mean? but because a lot of people tend to in life when we In loss or in anything that we do as human beings we tend to always look at a negative We don't ever try to dwell on the positive because with you talking and saying that The first thing I thought about is that at least she was here to see you get your deal To see where you were going. You know what I mean? I thank god. Um, I think Well, I'm blessed that he allowed her to see me safe If that makes sense like you know to be 16 years old and to be the last Of her children to Like I guess it probably looked promising to her right. I mean, uh, okay, cool. Yeah singing He's doing something that he want to do and I was able to Bless her bless her, you know with a few gifts in the beginning. She didn't want much. She wanted me to be fine Most parents because you're a parent right now And to me monetary things are not, you know every day I pray for my kids. I always pray that you know God just keep them safe and keep them happy. That's a big whoever comes around them because they're gonna have people coming around them Oh, yeah, and whether it be false pretenders or people who really mean them good or whatever That they're able to discern this with these people and that they can find that happiness and that love That's the only thing that you can give them. You know what I mean? Because that's all you want for your children. So I'm grateful for that for that time to be put in position left in position It's just something else man because now, you know, you you being a parent you There's no book to be in a parent. Oh, no, so you have to figure it out as you go Oh, man, and it's a it's a journey. It's a definite journey But I mean, you know, like I said, man, but you look look who you are today Look what you've done. Look how you've accomplished all the things you've accomplished and I'm grateful History you wrote books you've done things that a lot of guys will never do in their lifetime You've been with park you've been with uh snoob you've been with sugar all of the the dog pound You've been everywhere. You know, you met a lot of people outside of that jamie fox. I I heard you all the stuff you've done Uh, uh, it's just a blessing to be who you are now and to be able to sit down with you And go down through there like this is everything that I do this for me. It's amazing to share the journey But I have one question about your okay So when she passed away and I said, um, how did it affect you? um I'm Not always in that moment, but sometimes as you're older now you can look back and say oh, that's the reason why I acted out in this way after You know so far did you go through that period where? Absolutely. Um, I don't think that effect Never stopped especially You know in in our community in the black community uh, we don't We don't know how to grieve Um, we just grieve the best way that we can Um, if we get an opportunity to grieve that's true, you know, usually we just deal with The passing of a loved one um Well, we go to the service the repass You know and we we still cry For the for the person that was closer to the person we still cry daily But you know what I mean next week you got to get back to work And uh, I think just over the years um, even as a grown person it I I didn't learn until I was about Maybe 30 something Where I where I was at least at peace I was at peace at least like well, you know, she's she's no longer here. You know, my birthday was other day Yeah, I can't say that. Yeah It's a never-ending thing because I was you know, I'm celebrating You know, I'm hearing everybody say happy birthday to me And the only thing that played in my mind is wow, I haven't seen my mother in 30 years. Yeah So I think you know, it's something you never get over I can relate Yeah, because I'm like when you're talking about grief I'm like is there even a proper way to grieve There's no such thing as a proper way to do the best way that we can and right And I guess I guess I say With our grieving process we don't I think get the attention that's needed You know, I mean I think when you lose someone Counseling and therapy and group sessions and Speaking with other people that's been in that position is is much needed. Yeah, and but but you hear as an example Yeah, so so you basically have been through things so you can help others to get Oh, yeah, so you basically went through what you went through so that you could have others who lose mothers in current time Oh, yeah Fathers in current times. That's a part of our journey. That's what a testimony does Especially when you put it to fire, you know what I mean you think about I met a girl at the airport And she broke down crime because she was traveling to see her father and Who passed away passed away traveling to bury him here in Chicago and Me being able to understand it because I've been through it. I lost my mother and my father I believe that helped me to be able to talk with her and help her to deal with her issue at this time at that time Right, you see with him, but if I hadn't never done that I couldn't have ever talked to her like that So for this appointed time, I believe that's why that's amazing, you know, how are you and you lost your dad Um, my dad died in 2011 February the eighth. Okay. He passed the same day as my mother. Whoa Um, 18 19 years later same day same day That's crazy That's why that's a date. You'll never forget. Absolutely Wow You have you have some likes Wow, yeah, man, you know, um, like I said, man, we just blessed to have you on on the show today, man Boss talk 101 man. We've been around for a couple of years now And you know, we strive at trying to figure out like man Who can we bring on so our people to be able to you know, feel what we're trying to give them? You know, this whole thing is going to be playing with me and you get long gone Right, you see what I'm saying and that's why we do this, bro. So you're your your grandkids. Yeah You're your your great-grandkids. Yeah, they'll be able to go That my granddaddy did that and that's hard to me. I mean, you know what I'm saying I love it, bro. So I want to talk about, you know, some things, you know, I ain't gonna lie to you My favorite song is I ain't mad at you. You just took a drink I sure would like to hear a little bit of that for I can start any question about no any anything I got So if your boy me me me, you know, get it together and give me some I ain't mad at you. No, no I ain't mad at you Man stop playing. You see what I'm saying? Do you know how I am about the music man? No, you see, I'm an R&B. He's rap. I don't know. I do it all. I do it all. I don't stop playing. Well, I'm all R&B. I'm sorry Man, you was one of those guys early on that really when you think back to those times man You had keeps the way that you had all these different people that was doing R&B But you was able to you know Understand the hip hop era and come in blend in like how how was that man? Because I know, you know, you had H town You had a bunch of people during that time back then But you was one that you came in, you know, yeah, you had Nate doggen up But you was a true to me R&B singer in the mix to these guys and hemmed in your business So let's talk about that man. Well, I'm thankful to that to should And to pot, you know, I mean like, you know to shoot for signing me to the label with 15 You know really being the R&B cat and round death row, you know outside of, you know, the guy I should say or the baby R&B guy because Nate dog was there and well But being able to do that being connected to him and then you know with the with the pop stuff You know him invite me in the studio. I was working on my album I could be we had an a and a b studio and I don't care if I'm in b back there working or a working Pox running in the studio while I'm on the mic So, you know, just just to I could I see those visions now Wow, as a grown man and to know that he invited me on those records Let's go back a little bit boy though like like you were actually going to the prison To see or to be around the fact that Poc was coming out to be oh, yes I want to talk about that because to understand that time he was locked up It's like everybody turned their back on him to me. It's like he was just there and nobody couldn't help him After all the accusations, he's just stuck. So you go down there. What are what are your thoughts as you go down to the prison? so, um After after my mother passed or you know, even during the time of my mother being sick Sugar became my legal guardian Okay, okay. So almost everywhere wherever sugar was You know, I'm near the day. I'll be there tomorrow. Wow um, so yeah, I company him on the trips of of preparing to bring Poc home And the day of bringing Poc home. I never did get an opportunity to go into the jail You know, I just remember going across the street. We were a small restaurant across the street And sitting in there and just listening and waiting, you know watching tv and waiting when should get out Um, from the visit he would come to the limo and you know, the shit gonna work You know, he kept saying this and you know, he would say this, you know for a few months He had been saying it and then that last day, you know Poc got in that car And what was that ride back like you were in that car? Absolutely. Well, what was that like? So, uh, man, you know, you ride with Poc. Again, my introduction to hip hop is Snoop Dogg and You know those guys, uh, I come up around crucial conflict. You know, I mean, that's Maybe that's I should say that's my introduction. What shout out to wild style. Okay. Okay. That's here though, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah crucial conflict from Chicago My cousin wild style was the first person to put me in the studio But to be able to go there and work around those guys, you know what I mean and and you know, uh Just see the atmosphere of what was going on, you know and Poc getting out getting out of jail and You know us being in the car and getting on the flight, you know coming back I think the biggest thing for me is remembering the flight Poc was just so damn happy You know to to be out of jail to be out, right? You know what I mean? And we had girls and we used smoking weed and partying in what's the first thing yet What was the first thing if you remember, I think some ticket That's the first thing people Put a little weight on to he had to put a little bit of weight on he was short and you know, you come out I don't even think he ate enough though because I remember when when he we arrived to California I went to the house and then we were waiting for Poc to come To the studio and he got to the studio and got to the back door And before he got to the door, he just fell flat first Really fell out. Why they had to they had to wake him up and he'd get up Was he drunk? Oh man, I guess he hadn't smoked and drank too much Man, so when you think about because now kiffy d. Oh, we got to talk about that when you hear that they are Congratulations to him. Oh, that's what I'm saying Can tell me how you felt when you seen them raid his house and then they say, you know what? Now all we're writing is how we we we opened in this case back up. We're arresting him. What was that like? um I didn't really follow the case, you know, I had heard that this house had been raided and That just sounded weird by it being so many years. That's what I said, you know that had gone by but uh I noticed in the last few years How famous kiff have made himself. You know what I mean? I'm so from the book congratulations. You're an author Congratulations, you're doing the interviews um And uh, congratulations, he's walked his ass into some trouble You know what I mean, whether he did it or not, right purposely or not Well, the whether he was he's the shooter or not, you know, I mean what what, you know We know the world that we live and we know that the way the system go You know the killer is dead or you know, they may give him all of the Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They were supposed to give everybody else that he's talking about So congratulations It's a book like about this whole situation and it's like he's putting it in front of everybody I don't know who everybody known for that. That's what I'm saying I heard he was sick or something. He thought he was gonna pass and he said I'm gonna just let it because you You remember the the the bob only guy that said he's gonna let it all out You know when when you that's one thing about You know the the spirit Yeah, the holy spirit come on now, you know, there's one thing about you know god and conviction You know, I mean, I don't care how long your mouth stay closed. Come on there You know what I mean? You just you know what I mean? You could sew your lips up And and if it needs to be shown And it needs to be seen, you know, god is a perfect person to Um magnify what we think we're exposing. Yeah. Yeah, that's right So he put it under the light. Nobody was paying attention to him. I think he he got away perfectly Perfectly with the murder he was he was almost, you know, what he's like 90 years old. Yeah I mean, you know what I mean? So to live his last days if if they convict him or whatever this plan is to live those days out in jail If this makes him a little more comfortable Congratulations, so be it, right? Yeah, I wish you all the hard He the thing is that people people maybe as like what you're saying I never thought about it that way. He wanted to make himself right with god before it was time to go So he had this con fashion Well, you know, I just I just hope that he's safe I'm in because he talked a lot about, you know, you know different gangs in in vagus and said how weak they were All of the real gang bangers is in l.a. So now he's in an unfamiliar place Right, you see him sitting in the back of the car and he's like, you don't know who I am. He's telling the guy like you You know, I mean I think he wanted to be known especially to be talking like that. I mean, what else would he be known for? That's that's the biggest thing he ever done in his life. So besides besides gang banging and you know, how how Pretty or cute is it to hear a grown ass man talk about him gang banging? Wow. I mean his ending story is being a part of You know, uh, assassinating or killing tupac, which is crazy Which is crazy, man. You you uh, as a young let's stay in that young boy state, man You you something else, you know, I got to bring the marriage a thing up I got to bring that up You know as a young dude because I was clubbing at a young age I was like 11 and 10 and 12 at the club So when I heard your story, I was clubbing for was clubs. I was lounging. So you really was an old young nigga My daddy was born 1926 You can't tell me shit. My daddy was born December the 25th 1926. So maybe you took marriage fast. That's what it was You it was you. It was me. I was a grown man and it's not He had a whole song that book your book man when you wrote it and decided Oh, yeah, straight on death row You decided to open up about all of these things. Yeah When you when you decided to open up about that you knew it was gonna cause some It was gonna run for some time. You know some people got mad, but I don't know. Did it really ruffle things? Well, you told your truth. Yeah, that's all it matters. You know, I mean people focused on my sexuality And then becoming gay became famous. Yeah Fuck out here. I did it too fast But I want to talk about it because back then it wasn't I came out. I had to fight for this But do you think when you were early on you was messing with Mary? Okay What did you feel like? Okay, yeah, I like Mary or you just was like, well, she's taken advantage of you because you were young No, I mean, you know that was because she was young too. She was young too And that was Mary J blotting when I bought that story up because A lot of people thought that I was like trying to meet you I mean, I wouldn't use her Got somebody I could meet too if I want to But it wouldn't be Mary. You know, I said it in the conversation of You know, somebody was just saying how Mary was somebody girl. And I was like, whoa, wait a minute. No, what? No, it was my girl It was my girl, right? And I was kind of just talking too fast and I didn't mean to say I got fucking But I did You know, um You know, nothing I said in my book You know, I'm waiting for whatever I said in my book for the people that I said it about I'm waiting for them to Come back and be like he's lying. No, you heard that but oh, you won't What about kc? Like you got kicked off the tour. Yeah, was that Was that concerning the fact that you was, you know doing things I think I was making moves around there well that between that too, I think after after It became so big, you know on the tour bus where everybody, you know with joke, you know, they'd be a man I just read the book last week. Oh KC sitting there with his fiance and you know, he laughing But he really crying and shit in the inside Um, and I'm out with him and I kind of noticed the aggression and You know how how he became, you know, it went from like we brothers to You know, when he would say things to us, I'm your boss. Oh, it didn't change Niggas you crazy, you know, my fucking boss Fuck you mean I'm singing backgrounds And I'm doing a gig this is work for hire boss mean that when I'm not singing for your ass You paying me unemployment. Well, I still depend on you Damn, and I can't I couldn't you know, I looked at them as friends And um, you know after a while I was fired. You was actually singing for jojo, right? Yeah Because he what I mean, you know, I you know, jojo's my boy So I you know, there's there's not much that I would I would say but jojo and kc know Know what myself and shout out to my boy show time at those times that we sung for kc and jojo Okay, okay, and you know when they when they wasn't well We made sure that we had they back we protected them at our cost Oh It looked out for them because we love them and when they got better or they appeared to be better You know, they became the old jodesy And you know the old jodesy had always been assholes and rock stars and not nice to other people Yeah, yeah, and that's who they became again You see the trueness in a person when they hit they pinnacle. No, man when them niggas was drunk and couldn't walk Yeah, they saw it's telling their shoulder, but yeah when when they got sober, you know, I'm saying in the work and shows came in, you know, I mean um I I got fired showtime got fired and it was at a time that you know, I mean it mattered To me because I had bills You know, I mean so at times they they blessed me to feed me and it During that time I was kind of left, you know on the curb Wow, so I'm not happy with those guys at all at all But why does a lot of that um fame and fortune come with all of that cockiness and All of that, you know a bunch of bums that never had nothing I hate to call it like that But when you never had none, you know what I mean or never been around anything That's the only thing that I could I could blame it on You know what I mean because I tell people all the time. I've I've been a lot of places. I've I've seen a lot of money I've I've been on private jets the difference between the jet that you're on now is The jet was probably made in 92 and I flew in in 95 And you might still be flying on that same damn jet. They got jets inside there 30 years old still in the air Yeah Oh, it's nothing new And even when you're talking about Mary J because when I heard the story and stuff like that And for some reason I even looked I was on TMZ and I seen where another young lady talked about she Had sex with Michael B. Jordan and so what I'm like, is it becoming such a thing because me growing up It was like you don't talk about certain things. You don't put that out there But it's now it's like everybody's oh, I slept with this person I slept with that whether it was a man or woman saying it But it's like it's just everybody's just putting it out there like why well, you know again You know for me saying it especially at the point of where I was in my life You know, I mean a lot of people knew that You know that after the demise of death row, you know, I was struggling and Yes singing backgrounds and things like that, you know At that point that was my That's my trophy out. That's my trophy. That's right. You know what I mean talking about You know, I wish Instagram were I wouldn't be less than my followers My followers would be up there crazy stuff that I've seen and done So, you know, when I shared that moment, it was I was sharing some things out of the book. Yeah Just to push it Not just to push it just to you know, I don't I don't tell people to tell all us to share them I'm proud of it. Man. Everybody know who Mary J Blodges You you talk about when they after the death row thing, but You went up to new york and you end up dealing with I guess Timberland and all of these I went up there with a divante divante and you basically Were a bigger star at that time right being that you just left death row or just this big In the room Well, we were still with death row. I was still with death row and death row was kind of Like really going up and genuine album hadn't came out. So I met genuine and Timberland and Magoo and missy. Yeah, missy was with a group sister and You know, she wasn't, you know, all of the acclimates that they have now now they didn't they didn't have So, how did you how did you guys interact? Was it was it cool? I remember being cool I was there to work with with divante And the person that I really Connected with the most was genuine. Okay. Yeah. That's my homie. That's my brother genuine. I've been following. I've just stayed and doing a lot of crazed So basically when they took off like they did and you still you know, your your your career was kind of, you know It wasn't like no when they took a hell no when they took off man. I was back in Chicago How did that of when you seen it you like man, you know, uh Genuine at tanks and backgrounds on my first single slip-and-slide. Yeah, slip-and-slide hard. Thank you Y'all did that out of the country too And into that video to you to see to see Everybody kind of walking something that I felt was rightfully mine. So to say, yeah, you know, it wasn't a jealous thing But there was times that I was like, man, I wish You know, I wish I didn't you know have this this shorty end of a stick But I don't call it shorty end of a stick because y'all were spending some money at death. Oh, no, I'm talking about now I'm talking. I guess after that. Yeah, you talking Oh, but during that time, like I don't I don't you know, I don't complain or I would Would never um Not talk about or forget what death row or what shouldn't I done for me? Did you ever run into like Timberland them after all those years or you never seen him again? Uh Every now and then I may have seen Timberland and missy like once or twice But nobody after everybody make it, you know, they all go into a state of I don't remember you. Oh, yeah I mean after they you know You can run into him now and you know, and I'm not saying like I'm so grateful like ain't mad at you is you know, 26 27 years old and people still remember I would stop playing You know, you can walk to one of these people and they'll be like, no, there's Danny what he used to sing And they'll be like They'll be confused and it's like playing games You know, so I just stay out the way of hollywood. Don't you think that's god shielding you? Yes I don't I don't want to you know I guess I'm I'm made I'm made for this but I'm not made for hollywood. I'm not with the fake shit Me neither. You know what I mean? Like I've probably you know telling my truth and Speaking how I speak, you know what I mean? Those times people said, oh man, we don't want to deal with you because you said this all right, fuck you You gonna be mad at me for talking about you know, someone that owed me money or My situation you're a grown man And you mad of another grown man being mad over his business But have you always been like that? Have you always been like that because vocal? Yeah, because no, no Because in the beginning you might have been vocal but they're like like, okay And I'm saying this like the white howl right now going through his situation. He ain't able to speak He's he's all these innuendo you even say but think about it. You would you when you first Start coming into my sexuality. You know, I mean, you know, I got baby mamas and kids Right. There you go. Okay. The black as far as to be worried about what a nigga think Yeah, I didn't never hold it because Because You think I'm worried about what somebody think about you nasty ass nigga But when I think about politics and you trying to you know escalate your career A lot of people tend to hold their tongues because they don't want to get on nobody's bad You know what I mean, but you've never been like that. No, no, like I've been in trouble since I was little like Like now that I'll be looking at some of the things that like that you did Then I do now and now some of the interviews I've seen some interviews I'll be like, man, shut up Don't say that like I try to tell myself But you know, this was stuff that I remember the principal telling me In the day I was a bad kid, but you wasn't just going to tell me Some shit and if it ain't real and ain't right I'm not going to listen to that or if I believe something in my heart Even as a kid, I'm getting a whooping and I'm still saying I that's not right. I get it with my ass. I'm a crowd That's still wrong. It's wrong. So when you talk about sexuality and how you you came out and everything like that and it's so um everything is so bold now especially with Everybody but then why are there still some people in the white hour? Not just Him but not only him, but there's a lot of other people that are If people are guessing about and there's nothing well, you know, some people why people don't come out about it You know, some people kind of take a stance. You know, I've heard people say, you know, it ain't your business Which is cool. That's what he said. You know, I'm thinking about what I heard I didn't I shared it, you know, out of again out of social something that happened on social media I was sneaking around with someone he committed suicide. Oh, that's that's crazy, man. Sorry at this time. Thank you I was working in a church And the stuff that the church people said to me in my comments Is what kind of made me come out and I had to kind of like yeah, you know, I came out on social media Like yeah, run like but wait, this is you know, because you know people saying, oh, you know What they say about when you kill yourself you go to hell and I'm Wow Let me go here to tell y'all what's happening so I can get your ass in Then I got them in order and then I was like, man, you just told on yourself. Wow, but um It's very uncomfortable In our community, you know, I mean, especially for a man, you know, um We're looked at as a less of a man um I guess everybody think you want them You know, you become this monster. Yeah, you know, I mean hijack kids hijack like It's the weirdest shit a woman and excuse me, you know, a woman could say she's like Another woman and it's okay. And it is okay. You know, but yeah, we our community is so judgmental and You know, it's so funny that a lot of people I feel sorry for the white because there's so many people that's locked Uh That's locked inside of themselves and living for other people. That's what I was just about to ask Did you see that sense of freedom? Oh my god, my skin changed my cut my tone of my skin I felt like my life I got a lighter Like sneaking in hotels and like, okay, you meet me here and I'll meet you there and I'm running and I'm grown Out of hard work money That I work for I've never asked anybody to can you help me get a room? Yeah, you help me go on a date with all of this shit. I'm paying for but I'm hot And in the midst of that I've lost um great people That wanted to be dated out loud That wanted people to know that you know, they was with this this guy or awesome guy. I wanted them to know and I'm like No, I can't do this. You know, who wants to live that kind of life Did you lose friends or family who feel who said that well? I don't agree with Oh, yeah, a lot of people changed on me. Uh In a lot of those relationships Some of those relationships, you know, haven't been rekindled and the ones is some of them been rekindled and it ain't the same Uh, I used to be close to people in the family and and now it's like I'm not Uh, but it don't bother me. I you know, I'm also grateful to one of my aunts that I always say consider the resource and um I don't man, you can't judge me because I like I will look at your ass and think about seven different things that you should Before you think about me. If your mom was here, what do you think she would have told us? I think you think she knew absolutely Yeah, my mama knew me because even though all though you had baby mama girlfriends all of that like She's still your mama. Your mama know you Your mother know you and uh, quite frankly, I think my daddy knew You know, he passed before I came out, but My dad my dad I think he knew he would always say every time he met a girl with me man Man, she pretty man. I thought I thought I thought this boy was gonna be gay. That's what he was saying He telling me take me at the I used to take him in the stairs and give him a suit and the girl tried to put his suit on me crying Wow, that's crazy He telling me girl man, man, I gotta ask you about uh, man just She'll ignite man. You was with them early I gotta get back to the music because I I done stepped over something, you know, when you're playing in your plate You know, that ain't right, man So I gotta I gotta get back in my bag You are one of those guys man that you worked with all of these death royalties But you and snoop never did do a song together. Oh man snoop. You you told me you ready, man. Come on. Oh my bad My bad What was the what was what do you think? I know he had nate to rely on for like I don't know what snoop. You kind of hear the dog pound kind of talk about it It's like, you know, they say they interviews about what we had nadin Did I don't know if that that's what snoop felt I didn't feel like that because nate and I don't sing the same At all at all like and I'm not gonna even play with myself to play like it Yeah, yeah, we do two different things. Um, Nate is the king Definitely of what Nate dog did, you know what I mean did and do all Peter Nate. Yeah, that was a r.r.p To him, but uh, I just think that the time You know, uh, there was two sides of death row at that time And you know, I was mostly close with chug and Pock was around chug. So that's who I work with Didn't really get that opportunity to work with snoop. But I look forward to that real soon How was Two-pot and chug's relationship at the end. This is a gloomy place for people, you know How was it? Were they friends? Were they Was there a dilemma? Were there a drama even snoop? You hear all these stories? I've asked I asked, can you wear that? I've asked a lot of people I've interviewed about their relationship. You asked who? Can you wear that about about pock? She says none of them all of them went out, you know, what she said She said that she basically was saying that he was because she was around. Yeah, she was around. She said finish She basically would tell a story like, you know, she was she was there poxing her before he passed away He was in good spirits. You know where? She was there that night at the fight. Okay. Her and Nate's uh, White mama. Okay. Yeah, uh, baby mama at the time may have been white But she just she seemed like there was a good place there for snoop. She said snoop was not in a good place with pock when he passed Okay, so was that about right? She knew that. Yeah, she told me that I say she knew that is not what I Oh, she said she that's what she told us so evidently. That's what she knew I don't know. Well, I mean, you know, so was that not correct? I mean again, you know, um I want to hear from your perspective. We had our sides and You know, I mean like so when I hear a lot of people and I'm not saying pock was just privy to with shugged people but when I hear people saying Things like let's say for instance if pock wasn't getting along with shugged so to say She wouldn't have known that Okay Why because her baby daddy wouldn't have known that Snoop wouldn't have known that that's real because that's dad because he's hanging because he's hanging with bloods, right? So pock's not gonna go over there and talk over there To dad's and corrupt and they baby mamas and it was probably something that probably everybody was feeling You know something going on, you know, like I grew up and figured that something was going on with my money You know, maybe snooping all of those guys figure that as well or pock may have figured that out But to for people to talk like they were in the click of I get it the only people I think are privy to that is like the outlaws Yeah, I'm not even privy to knowing what because pock wouldn't have said nothing bad about shugging in front of me Correct. That makes sense Why would he because I would have been a problem. I would have told him Period mother fucking point blank. You would have told him fucking. Yeah Like at that time shug would have known this nigga ain't happy Because you loyal. No nigga. We nigga. Why you ain't happy? Those are the kind of meetings we had What? He had guardianship on him. Yeah, so they had a close relationship. So that was a hell of a thing. There was an intense meeting Give me a story on some of the meetings. You just got me thinking now Our red room meetings and our death row. What the hell was y'all doing these meetings? If things and you know, if something go right on snoop snooping them side or You know, I'm shooting them side You know snoop was the one To fix it and snoop people was the ones to fix it. They had old geez That fixed it, you know, it wasn't like a bunch of bloods. It's gonna beat on these crips and these crips gonna beat on these bloods It was organized organized. Shit. Like the homies checking the homies You know what I mean? And when things wasn't right, we were sitting in a room and You know, we were pulled off things right as men But everybody knew what death row was about. It wasn't we weren't men that was You know meeting in the corporate office. Oh, these was niggas Exactly meeting in the office, you know about millions and millions of dollars and dreams and and and it turned out to be Some brilliant niggas that I had to be in that room Because that work showed it. What was the last thing you said about And what was the last thing you said? What was your conversation like? Damn Uh, we had our last conversation. I would say I mean, you know us talking was Maybe the set of toss it up. Okay. That was the last video then. Whoa I wasn't happy with pot because of that video. No, his ass showed up late Oh They're gonna scrap the video. That's my time to get my solo on your ass. We here Is he always late anyway? I'm the latest person. Yeah So what was that like the energy that that that was a big that was a that was a nice video Oh, man, that man out. They told us if he's not here in the next 30 40 minutes, we're gonna scrap it Big budgets on these videos. You know that time people spending 3,400,000 Yeah, close to a million dollars on video Pocke ass come wobbling his George Jupps to walk up in that I'm looking at him like man The fuck what did you say? Yeah, I always say something me and Pocke always had like, you know words Like and I don't even know if they were true words. This was Words. Yeah, I whatever I said, shut up nitty boy. You you're a shorty. You're a kid Yeah, a kid You were serious about the cry out man. I was super serious about this company do my video Damn, uh, Jojo and Casey here. They got this fire in this tight ass suit. Yeah, you should have been here You thought he would have learned this the slip of slide video. He was sitting there like he enjoyed it. You know That was out the country everybody, you know Happy to flew everybody out on my damn budget Man, that's crazy, man. So I think you know, like when I look at, you know, you man Everything that happened even the drain when Dray left like how was that energy? They were calling, you know Pocke say without a great gas Dray It was all kind of stuff said being said you heard you was there. So you know, what was that like? In the room What was that like man, like that time period man, man, you talking about dray Uh, you know It was funny You know, it was funny because the shit that Pocke was the best at At antagonizing people. Well, he just flipped like that. Like they were kicking it on california love and I think he kind of felt Pocke Pocke kind of felt that Dray wasn't participating with You know, the artists as much and you know, everybody should be working and nobody bigger than the next nigga around here You know and and dray was when even when dray came to the studio. It was like You know, the dean is here or He was an arrogant Quiet in the hallways. I don't know, but you had to you should you better act like he was arrogant and cocky because That's that's kind of the only thing I kind of remember from dray Like you weren't going to he demanded that present. It was real studio time. Shit when dray came into my business But he was serious too. You I think a look at looking how he is now I mean, man, I think it was serious and you know, and it's in this b studio. There's Stupid his guys in there fighting pits For real for real in our studio mother fuckers in there just smoking weed and standing on top of speakers You know what I mean? That shit ain't happening when dray comes to the studio. I don't know You had that part and straight out of coaching That's what I thought about when he was saying that where he came out and he was telling sugar Like they were out there messing around or whatever and he was like man He was trying to record. Was it park was in the inside Yeah, I got parking here. Yeah, like y'all need to be quiet y'all out here messing around That move with that crazy. Oh that movie shit crazy. That all that shit and it's acting shit. I know it all And that shit We're not going that far y'all be we're not going that motherfucker drop With these movies. No, I think it's all eyes on me movie. Oh my god. Oh, it was crazy horrible movie Why did you like it? Um, I know what I was talking about They were making shit up every day. Not even five percent of it was true I mean, you know, it's hard for me like how you make a movie and don't talk about danny boy in it Like in my homie made that movie. They just wrote you out of it. Why would they write you out? Again, you know Sugar was being You know black wall. That's right. Anything that kind of had anything to do with sugar or the resemblance of him You know, I inherited a lot of his problems and um It's just still weird To be left out of the story. Like I would watch things um, even when working a job and and and anticipate on sing my part Or sing would you know, the little small part because I the a lot of people be like, man, you didn't know park that alone It felt like forever Yeah, but the work that we've done and the things that we've done It's a magnet. You couldn't it's a lot of people that won't experience that in a lifetime Do you think it's cause you from the west side of chicago and they was from l.a. And I happen them niggas ain't from l.a. most of them more than what Because I know I'm saying they be saying that and they like l.a. man. Come on, bro. Where you from? I'm just like you. I came from chicago with a vision and a dream Don't hold it against me. That's all your ass from mississippi. You feel it The fuck is we talking about? I'm from chicago Which is hard. That's all in a real fucking city, too Oh, yeah, we just as real as any other fucking city. Yeah. Yeah, y'all start a lot probably so probably, you know Again, I think inheriting the problem from sure But it'd be acting to be acting like, um California harder than chicago where no, not everybody. You know, I just kind of I'm thinking it'd be hard. It's kind of harder. It's kind of harder Man, I hadn't been to some places where the grass is so green and you get your fucking head smacked in Shot So I don't know, you know what I mean? I just I guess that's why I'm blessed I go places You respect people You respect you respect. I respect people because you just never know You never know if I your old kid can walk up to you and shoot your brain up And you can't and you can't do nothing about it. You can't jump on. Yeah So what you think this because you you bigger, you know, I don't I don't think that there's no tougher Is this that you know the respect especially coming from death row? um You know, none of us want to we I didn't get as much as everybody else got people got plaques and You know checks, I didn't get those checks and those plaques So, you know being a part of that story and not left out of it. So that's why we're my own books stranded on death row I don't need anybody to tell my story. I tell it to myself. Yeah I want to ask you about michelle a jumping from shoe to what from draiders shoes. I want to know how you was Oh, you know, I love it. I mean, I want to know how how this happens You know, how does this how does this happen and how do you look at it? Like damn, you know Sexy red For real oh jazzy bell So i'm just giving history of um She was not we can go way back. Who was not what? Michelle a jazzy bell. Yeah, I'm just saying like we can go back. It's the spirit. The jazzy bell spirit That spirit jumps on whatever I mean she obviously she was because I mean it was said that she messed with I mean, we know she was in draped then we don't know if she messed with easy Right, we don't know then pop They say I don't know did you see him find at the studio drape? Did he hit her like that? No, come on, man. Oh, I never seen that shit, but I was around. I went around. I went around, you know, that part of it But you know what I mean? I don't put nothing past. These are we niggas Like everybody Y'all everybody must take away the money and the cameras and the fame your cousin With your cousin smack a motherfucking girl And he been with and she looked like she just drunk and trying to fuck everybody's studio possibly me possibly possibly not I don't put anything past her because of The character that she's shown us. Yeah I mean, let's we wasn't there but she it she went from draid or should that uh She didn't hide that in her movie because she when she did a movie she couldn't hide it She couldn't hide it. She hit it a long time She she was shit. She hit it a long she hit it long enough She hit it and she was sneaking around is what he said when she was sneaking when they were sneaking You seen it all every last bit of it every last bit of it I was surprised how she made it sound like the reason why she did it because Because I how draid treated her and then he was there Oh nice movie That's the movie right there. I didn't let the butterflies out of now But she was telling her story No, no, no, you see don't want to be looked at like she got like 50 70 bodies. She was sneaking she was sneaking around with sugar draid was leaving Draid didn't have a bag right Where that's right because he didn't leave with no money. They said right there. So she called herself going with the winner But at that time but but but she portrayed um She portrayed him as being This man who was with all these different women while he was with her Draid so was sugar and everybody else. I'm like, that's real. It's the business we in That's hard when you just say it. So you think about it, man When you look at the way that these things are are When you look at the way that these things are happening man for as you know At the time when you own you when you're dealing with this You a young kid you 16 17 15 no 17. Yeah about 16 17 17 I think that's man. That's the hard part right now for you to be able to you know Being a mix of that boy. I wish I could have been a fly on the wall. You know, I wish I I wish I had fun You had fun to god I've had you had fun. I've had uh, I've had a fun of my life, man The most the best fun of my life And you and I see why you was offended and y'all call me on the phone You you call me on three-way. We call. Yeah, y'all call me. Um, a leak had uh, basically Let's talk about that. Yeah, but we gotta talk about that because that happened on my watch, you know on my show We was in Las Vegas And I had really I was trying to understand because I didn't you know I love Malik too talking to him. I ain't gonna lie here for as the conversation He don't the poem to write everything about him when he come to what he do hard. So He's okay. He's a poet. Let's talk about it, man. So you basically the bullying part That struck a nerve with you a big nerve and I didn't understand why No, I didn't understand why because I'm on the outside looking in but now that I hear your story Can we state what we said? It was like he was being bullied and and somebody called me Basically you he had to come down and and really, you know, like So we'll straighten these out. Just like I straighten this out on the phone with his ass. Okay, let's talk about it Great poet great poetry great words Has nothing to do with nobody I know from this city He's gonna call him. I don't know a nigga in this city that have called them when they got a problem Unless they have a problem with writing or literature That's one thing I gotta say this In his defense when I looked up his stuff like I looked up yours It was this guy that came on the breakfast club and I cannot remember his name But he spoke highly of the fact of he came to interview in Chicago And when he did Malik got all of the all of the gang members together Everybody put all of the major players together. Nobody give a fuck And nobody give a all of us can do that All I'm a gay nigga and you can do it. I packed this motherfucking block up That don't mean nothing. Wow Now I'm on the gating away from what he did but to say that like Everybody I know I'm for sure is more powerful than the niggaz, you know Wow period Every nigga I know is more powerful than the niggaz. He think he know Is that just I don't need him to call nobody for me as a matter of fact I don't know a nigga. I need to call somebody for me So I never needed a nigga call for sure Sure, it's not around right now, man. You know my hometown why I work I work in a funeral home. Wow Why I'm comfortable when I say I'm comfortable play it I don't need nothing. I've never needed no niggaz like I'm I stand my hand when I'm that don't mean I'm tough But I do know that when at the end of the day when it's time to leave here We all go in that back room in that cold room. That's right And I'm more than likely I'll be dressing they ask before somebody be dressing me Wow man, I just like I said The way that store because she'll he had gotten shot in the leg that even came out on my shirt He didn't shoot you he didn't get man. Get out of here with that shit and trying to why like that's another goofy To me just like with this other thing like who wants to be known for that You better stop saying like the when he did that conversation. There's a lot of people I had to call to calm down some shit with him Wow, like so if you want to be known for You know these interviews is fun and I get slack from stuff that I say Yeah, you think make us threaten me and say what they're gonna do and all of that But you got to be careful what you're saying about some real niggas Damn man, it's your car. I've never needed a nigga that I ain't never been bullied And if I get bullied I'ma let y'all know I swear to god I'm gonna tell everybody because I'm the first time I tell them so when I go to court from blowing your brains out At least I came I'm gonna come out and play my whole shit. I'm gay. I'm scared All of that you tried to rape me and I killed you No, you got me thinking about something I'm ticking up here because Academics and saucer Santana been into it And he cried because of saucer, you know pulling the pressure on him, you know for his uh, he's he's gay saucer is gay And then saucer is basically now Kind of tormenting him saying he'll rape him and all kind of stuff. No, wait a minute now Now my boy my boy crying because he feel like okay. He being bullied by No, he probably he probably is and he can't say that I'm back because he say they Man, if he say something man, nobody kill about that shit Man, you a man this man talking man. Go whoop that man ass And you don't think they'll look at it. No way what they're gonna do man. That's your audience. Do you think you can whoop him? Probably not That's the embarrassment. You don't want to go out there and get whooped by a nigga with fingernails on Makeup. That's a big nigga And so that's why you do you think that's why he crying no disrespect Do you like being called a nigga? It was I'm all messed up with pronouns because I don't do none of that shit. I don't know him like that, but I do know Nigga crying man. I was tripping off that. I'm like, damn man. He getting emotional about that, bro He probably just scared man when you scared like because again, I People say stuff about people all of us now. What is he so, you know, because he say stuff about women He talked about a lot of people I was tired saucy ass up about with him as much as he talked about women He better he better say something back. He better say something Ain't nothing like getting closed down if you're getting closed down by us Then ain't the lgbd shutting you down. That's saucy santana shutting you down saucy Saucy santana man either he done made it boy I guess he's seeing academics coming like i'm for the hell of this nigga man Yeah, I mean, you know one thing one thing, you know, you know, I Hey, leave leave them lgbt leave leave it alone, man You want nobody to be talking about you? If you want to be talked about and get it to somebody but that's why you gotta remember you gotta remember too, right Just because a person's gay doesn't mean like all my uncles and my brothers and my cousins and the niggas that killed they're not gay They're not gay at all and they love me So they ain't trying to hear it coming. They don't they will come to a gay party And clean it out No, not today And i'm grateful for that. No, that's I don't brag up man. I think it's about how you treat people You know, I mean everything that I've said in interviews is my story. You matter about how I talking how I said Flip the channel That's real. That's what cunny said fast forward fast forward I like cunny I do too like that With social media the way how it is right now where everything is so in your face because people are so addicted as much as people It's so funny People will be watching these interviews and they don't like something that you say And they're in the comments saying all this other stuff and whatever But they refuse to get off of the channel And find something else. Oh, yeah, well, I love it. You know, it's it'd be more a lot of gay bashing with me Where you know a bunch of straight guys Do do well, they say they straight what they do a lot of bashing like who have You know, the only you shouldn't be worried about Business that another man is doing the only person I know Well, it's only only one person that's not gay that only have a right to do that. That's whack 100 I mean, I guess What? Where did they come from? What did you say? What's up with whack 100? Now this ain't the only person that could talk about like people's lifestyle and like only this privy to do that Nobody should be privy to do that. But black 100 he is. Why is he? I don't know I don't know. He's the only one that could talk about gay people and who's gay in the industry and who's not Really? I think he's a gay police, but It's dude. It's crazy. I love it So I gotta ask you about that come for to get you out of jada and jada wrote a book. You wrote. Yeah, you wrote a book You wrote a book and you know, you put some things in that up with saucy Why y'all ain't come get my book like y'all want to get her book though because she is really Promo queen though. She's a liar. Go ahead. I'ma finish. Go ahead. She's a promo queen. Like she basically I think it in my opinion I'm thinking it's all for the book all of this stuff. I hadn't been with wheel Uh, I got alopecia and two part got it. You know, I want to hear her like do they help you? I got alopecia to my albums out of my car You don't want to. I got alopecia to those Shit, if it's gonna work I got it too So tell me what did you think like like when you when you seen her start talking about Park wasn't her soul made and she wasn't practice. What was that? I hope Because I do a lot of interviews And I'm just now getting the opportunity to be known for the music again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Um, I just hope that I don't look How she looks. Yeah Um, it's pitiful It's distasteful It's disgusting Um Just as much as some rap shit that I hear You know what I mean? because A lot of us look up to will smith as a hero You know what I mean when it comes to sitcoms and the business that he's done And I just think that certain things if that is, you know, stay business But yeah, keep some of that shit to yourself You know what I mean? I think it's for attention And I was with it all the way up until I think I seen her say She gave her pox ashes Or something like that in you know what and you close to that situation So what I just don't know. I won't why would she say that and you know it comes to the red table just to see the time frame Because I know the pox ashes was separated and he knows about him stuff like that So the last time I seen the I was probably the outside of the person that delivered him the second or third person to see his ashes And I just don't know how they went from sugar to his mother I think one of the securities maybe to Jada That's heavy. That's heavy because I don't she'll probably gave her some kuba And said that that's one of the cigars cigar ashes and gave it to her ass That's what I said. What okay, so what kind of relationship did She have with two pot that I don't know. Did she go get him out of jail? No, no, why? She didn't have a million dollars. No, you don't think she had a million dollars to spend for for him. I'm just saying she had it She didn't have all these resources I don't know, but you were around them. So you saw their relationship. I'm trying to see what I was never around them You're never never seen Jada. I've never seen him during this death. Never seen you never seen them together I think everything she's talking about is Baltimore and And that was it and that was the whole time it was just as long as me just yeah I mean, she had the right to say it because she knew him, but You know all of this love What was everybody at when Paco was locked up? They weren't sitting across the street like you a lot of people a lot of people turned their backs on him You know, it's sort of like the R. Kelly thing like when that light got shine on him that he raped somebody A lot of people left Paco alone So I think those are the parts she should share in the story. Let's talk about that part Those are parts that they should say this is where I was during that time Don't try to fit yourself in during You know the good time So do you feel like her and will is going to be just totally because I know they're separated according to the whole You know, do you think this divorce? Will is will whatever they got going on. She's good She's good because she can say anything and and will come out and he say that you love her and You know, that's I guess that's one thing man. That's what love is about to you know I mean like he said no matter what he supported her You know good luck to him wouldn't be mine She wouldn't do that shit. She wouldn't do that shit with me. I gotta I gotta get him out of here It's over now To this song that whole stretch Whoa What's the difference Danny boy? I always ask these crazy questions like what's the difference in that Danny bar? To that this song guy, it's over now written and produced by babyface. I'm grateful for that, obviously um Just around death row You know, those are my growing years You know, I mean finding myself as an artist I knew that I could sing Um at that time, I guess I didn't know what to do with it or You know when to put this chop here or there so a lot of stuff that I probably hear when I was younger I'm thinking like oh my god. I can't believe I did that. I'm cringed by it but um The growth I call it death row university first I learned a lot from death row and To take that and to get into master's classes, so to say these struggles along the way Uh, I sing about things that I've went through or experience and that's close to me Uh, this black heart album You know, just it means the same thing as the red emoji of a black heart or the red Emoji heart mean love The black heart of my album is why I named it that Because I believe in black love Um, I don't believe that, you know, just out of living this life. Everything isn't going to be Great all the time I mean even in love ship friendship You know, I mean me and my best friend we we're not gonna agree and Be on the same page me and the love of my life. We're not gonna be on the same page The the part is is how do we make it through? How do we get to the next page? Or to the next chapter and and to be able to sing about that now Um certain things I just wouldn't sing like songs. I wouldn't even with rappers I'm not a part of certain songs and what I've done that already Um, I I'm I'm grateful for the gift that God has left me with and sustained So I'm I'm pretty careful on how I use it and and with that Um over the last year from releasing the album. I made it to top 10 on the billboard. Yeah, I seen that Man, congratulations, man. How does that feel to be back in a mix like that, man? I mean to to to be forgotten for so long and Uh, man, I it's overwhelming when I'm out in the crowd and I'm singing the song sometimes and I see People singing the words to wow, you know to know that wow, they're finally paying attention to me Uh, you know, I had that little Five 50 five to 15 seconds on aim attitude and to get that attention At two minute and 30 second attention Is amazing and to hear it on the radio and we just dropped another single called just friends From the album and I'm getting a lot of love So I'm just you know, it's still not where because I'm I'll be like, oh my god When the promoters gonna start calling I'm ready to sing and ready to go out So I'm still waiting for a lot of those parts to connect, but I'm grateful um for so many years to have passed And to still be able to you know, I feel fresh Wow, I mean, I feel like I could sing I have the energy And uh, I'm ready to do it. So thank you so much. I have one last question It ain't gonna be the last because I got my R&B because you know people some people say R&B is that right Um, do you think R&B because growing up in the 90s all of that R&B was like to me the peak like I love R&B. Yes. Will R&B ever come back to that point like what it was I know cycle goes around and come back again. Do you think it's going to ever come back? Uh, when what will it take? I think that we're on the right track With R&B coming back It's definitely on the on the uprise Um And and and I guess while I say it like this, uh, the worst Unfortunately the worst off that we are in the world It seemed better For R&B and gospel because people need that healing And R&B music and soul music blues Uh have and gospel has always served as a as a piece of healing For people, you know when people was working in the cotton field there were songs that they sang To make them get to the next day I'm sure the guy that's sitting in the cell. There's a song that he sang every day to help him count those calendar years Um, I don't know if the happy birthday song would be as exciting if it was just a letter and not saying All right, so for us to get back to that moment. We're going through so much in the world Where you know that song is a lot of that hill and a lot of people is searching for healing and I'm not saying that a rap song can give you that a poetry can't give you that But you got to go to one of them lose the records of the Marvin Gaye records Man when you deep hurt in love you go to those records you Said something that I laughed about when you said that Sid and I say you should have been and came out And if you had a came out and did some of the things that he told you to do you really blow He's like, I'm gonna tell you what you should do though She's always playing that's all right, man. I I um Speak with him every now and then. Oh, yeah, that's cool. My phone line is open to him. That's good forever in a day That's and how is he doing in there? He's in jail. I know he isn't jail. That's I think he's comfortable. That's what I was trying to see He's doing a podcast or something podcast going he's probably Really calls. Yeah, have you been on this podcast yet? He's gonna have to pay me Yeah, he's definitely but y'all lawyer to one another man. He was with him as a kid Don't mean I won't get with snoop dawg You're rock out with the new devil man. I'm so excited about this death row thing just the possibilities because I feel like it's unfinished business It's a place that you know what I mean? I I was there And I definitely want to be home. That's all I want to finish some I know some records that was left in the vault Yeah, I can't I would love to get in the vault and yeah, and uh, everybody knows snoop is a part of everything Top three top three artists of all time dead or alive and any genre. We're getting him out of here now That's that's the wind down. Donnie. Donnie hathaway. Can you say donnie hathaway? Give me something man For all we may never meet Again But before Make this moment Can you make it sweet? It won't say Good Talented God bless you man. Where did you get that time from your mom? Your dad? My mother was a singer And I just think that God left me with the serousability of the talent So I have her voice and my aunties. I come from a singing family. So god killed that bro Give me the second one bro. I gotta get the second boy. That made me forget about my top three We're coming back. I need the next one number two. So donnie hathaway Um, you killed stokely williams of make william of make condition That boy bad. Oh my god. That's that's my mentor That's like who I look up to. That's the one that say we fell in love Yeah I went to their concert one time. So I was hurt behind that concert. I was with you You wouldn't you know because of it was the music man. So can I tell you what? I think you drowned the man to You know, he's a musician Uh Musicians musician So to say like he's like for another artist like you'll probably just be crazy in there But then I've been in the in the concert and I seen some stuff and I'm like, wow Only a musician would sit here for like it's too musical and man too But went pretty brown eyes and that was cold. Yeah, I like one of my favorite kind of man I'm gonna be honest with you. The reason that night kim clowned that night with me Kim kim a beast man that night. He's a story. I like sleeping man It was just I think of charlie wilson was that charlie wilson. So it was a wild blend Man, so my last one, uh So we got stokely of mid-condition Uh, dining hot the way that last one. I was on steve one steve one did. Oh, yeah You were the daddy of music. You've met him I met him once but um, I met him once when I first signed the death row But since I released this single he showed me a lot of love. Uh, shout out to the station and in LA And I was calling into the station to speak with someone on the radio and she was like, um He'll a voice is something he's like, man This song man, this song is incredible and I'm like, thank you so much and And the lady was like, uh, that's the mr. Stevie Wonder and I'm like, whoa, whoa, wait And he talked on the interview on the phone with me for about 10 15 minutes That's awesome. It was just to hear the stuff that he was saying. Thank you, daddy That probably made that's And maybe want to sing much longer so y'all got to do Yeah, what did you sing the gmy v when you sung to him? Uh, that was a song that was called, uh Drive by what made you sing this? So I just you ain't got a so no That was one of the songs that I when I was going because I was there to meet with another label Okay, and we had a series of songs put together for the auditions Okay, and that was one of the first songs. I actually sang it for sugar first He's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, shit. Hold up He's but before I sang he knew I was going to meet and he's like, but something he thought I was going to rap And I sang and he was like, hold up. Shut up Went out the room and he came back in with the little short white guy and it was jimmy jimmy I would wonder jimmy javeen had them deep pockets, too He's still got them boy them boy series man. Do you still you don't even talk to him anymore? I haven't talked to jimmy in some years, but that would be an interesting conversation Yeah, it would be and for you to sing for jimmy javeen. It's like he was the rock and roll dude But he was the one to usher daddy In right. Yep. That's crazy out of all your songs that you have which one is your favorite song I gotta say right now for my album right now. I'm the black heart album. It's always It's called crazy. Why is that one your favorite? What like, you know, um Like who ain't been crazy and in love that's right been through through some things and Yeah, I'm a Scorpio too. So it tells my mom You're a good guy man. Thank you show man. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Shout out. How can people get How can people get a hold of you if they trying to link up with any boy? Y'all can find me get all in my business on instagram. That's danieboy steward. I'm always on there Um, you can follow me on facebook, which is danie steward and to follow everything Just go on to your website and search go danieboy.com I'm gonna tell you something. Complement really is the fact that I didn't have ten to scoot up. He's used to this I'm so happy how you have to be yourself in this area I was talking about that before we got here People being on my nerves Why don't you set up as you had you got this figured out I gotta find your show. We don't thank you. I gotta check it out You know, like whenever you doing I have a radio station. It's called fmp and it's an internet radio station So we're still building it up. So we'll talk man. Maybe I can come do a second Yeah Yeah, y'all can do some work. We'll holler. Let's talk. Okay. Give me some of the news second with me Thank you so much, man boss. I want to one more the bosses talk. Can we out me?