 Good morning from sunny Austin, Texas, and welcome back to JSA TV live here at data cloud USA this is day two of this inaugural event and we're coming back to you live first We just want to shout out to our beautiful video producer who is behind the scenes JSA's brand new Digital marketing and events manager Allison wheeling so she's keeping all this JSA TV live and doing a fabulous job break. Healy That's right. She's probably one of the hardest-working people here at this entire conference. So again shout out to Allison. Good job Yes, and the conference floor is packed today And we are so excited to be back filming JSA TV lives But just as a recap Keeley last night was amazing so many different Networking events and parties that we were able to attend and see some of our clients and meet some new friends The top of the list was MCFI our client They had a poolside cabana event which was So nice and we got to network there and then we headed over to sway for a really meaningful event for the women tech forum And I mason's that we were honored to be invited to and a part of why don't you tell viewers a little bit about that event Keeley? Yes, it was a lot of fun It was at sway as you said and one of the just the key takeaways was just the opportunity to sit there and chat with women in The technology field and all walks of it, you know, we're on the marketing and public relations side We talked to women who are doing sales, but it's really interesting to see that no matter where we are in an organization and technology We you know, there are similarities and differences and the same challenges And so it was really insightful to sit and talk with people who you know Maybe they sit in a little bit of a different spot at the table But we can all learn from each other and grow from each other So that was really cool and I also have to give a shout out to the team who planned it because the gift that they gave Away to all of us who registered was a beautiful Kendra Scott bracelet I I stowed it away safely in my bag so it gets back home safely and soundly with me but thank you again for just such a wonderful event and we do today for day two Turning our attention back to today. We have a lot of great things coming up Our first JSA TV interview is on deck right over there. So stick around for Lincoln Rack House We'll be talking with them in just a moment and then a pretty full day of JSA TV interviews Some one of your clients that you work with this coming up soon and few others. Yes. Yes We have in Volta coming up and Lincoln Rack house one of our clients So we're super excited to get some of the interviews stream live to you watching. Thanks for watching Also special shout out to some of our clients that were sponsors of the Women in Tech Forum I mason's event last night stream prime data centers So it was really great to see, you know, Gabby VP of hyperscale there and the stream team So super proud of our clients for you know Taking the step and the leap forward to sponsor these critical important events to encourage more women in our industry Because there still is that challenge. So super happy to be a part of that event and stay tuned for JSA TV live Streaming all day here from data cloud USA in Austin, Texas happy networking Welcome to JSA TV live the live streaming newsroom for telecom and data center professionals today We are in sunny Austin, Texas for day two of data cloud USA I'm Allison wheeling and joining me today is Thomas Hill vice president of acquisitions and investments at Lincoln Rack house Thomas welcome to JSA TV Thanks for having me appreciate it. Yeah, of course. So what brings you today to cloud? What are you hoping to get out of this week? Yeah, so it's always two-fold, you know one learn about prevailing trends in the industry, you know always keeping up to date on You know new advancements and then to you know It's the networking obviously one and collaborate with other organizations and like-minded groups to see if there's opportunities to collaborate in the future Yeah, absolutely, and your expertise is in data center acquisitions Can you share with us some of the elements that go into your evaluation when deciding on a potential purchase? Yeah, sure So, you know, I've got a traditional real estate background and I always start high level from that perspective of understanding You know the bones of the investment operate, you know operations operating expenses revenues You know the tenant quality and the remaining term on the lease and then zoom in further to the data center components of You know, what's the power story? What's the you know pathway to additional capacity to add value? You know to make sense of the investment Absolutely, I'm sure that background really helps and comes in handy with that So Lincoln Rack House recently made headlines for an acquisition in Atlanta. Can you tell me a little bit about that? Sure, so we're very excited. It's a hundred eighty-five thousand square foot facility in alpharetta You know currently across two halls. There are five megawatts today available for lease We're already underway with an expansion of that facility for an additional eight megawatts and then down the road. There's You know opportunity for an additional expansion for a standalone facility for up to 30 megawatts So we've got high hopes for that one Awesome. Yeah, it sounds like a lot going on with that one and then New Albany, Ohio has been dubbed the next Silicon Valley And then earlier this year Lincoln Property Company and Harrison Street announced the acquisition of a 190 acre land site that will serve as a multi-use technology and distribution park Can you tell us more about that data center campus development? You know first it was the hyperscalers and meta Amazon and Google You know since we put our land under contract the the Intel site for the chip manufacturing was announced So we're very excited about that as well. We're approaching that as a mixed-use project with industrial and data center You know about a million square feet of industrial is plan for the project and then anywhere from you know one to one point five million square feet of data center depending on you Know if we do a single User campus style environment or multi-tenant you know style environment and You know as you mentioned where we're underway on the substation There'll be an onsite substation Coordination with a EP and we just began a construction of that so we're very excited And what would you say are the top trends in the data center industry right now? Yeah, so what we look for is is keeping tabs on what the hyperscalers are doing You know where they are where they're going and then you know importantly from our perspective since we are you know Real estate developers. It's understanding. What can they handle themselves versus? What do they need? You know, do they need to lease space and partner with third-party developers such as ourselves? And then secondly, it's just you know the very basic supply-demand Metrics of traditional real estate. It's you know monitoring the primary secondary markets understanding The predominant stories and trends, you know very recently you saw a lot of supply get gobbled up in the primary markets You know not only my hyperscalers, but also large-colow Operators and enterprise users, so it's just reading that anticipating Trends and then you know if you want to acquire or build You know getting ahead of that trend because oftentimes that speed delivery will win deals and have successful projects Yeah, that's amazing and where can our viewers go to learn more? Yeah, you can check out our portfolio at rackhouse.com and we're also active on LinkedIn under Lincoln Rack House Also, well, we look forward to hearing more from you guys And I'm sure we'll have you on again and you'll have even more acquisitions under way So thank you for joining us and thank you viewers for tuning in to data cloud USA and JSA TV live Happy networking Welcome back to JSA TV live where we are the live streaming news source here at data cloud USA And having a great day to so far. I'm Keely Dorian and right now I am joined by the lovely Michael Holm the global sector lead for tell ya Thank you so much for being here with us. Thank you. Nice to have me here. Yeah, so how was your your data cloud? Conference been going so far and what sorts of great things have you been learning about? Of course, there's a lot of of sustainability topics on the agenda That's that's a that's a thing that is good for for us like a data center provider The company I represent we are coming from the northern Europe from the Nordic. So we are present in all the Nordic countries like Finland, Sweden, Norway and so on Yeah, let's back up and let's talk just a little bit about tell you of course a very big name in the industry But for some of our US viewers who maybe aren't as familiar Can you just share a little bit about who you are and what you do and and where you operate a little bit more? Yeah, I said we are in in the Nordics so Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark and the Baltic states there is that's our home market Maybe people here in in in US know us more about our former company called tell ya carrier That's is today Araleon that was sold out. So that's that's what people here Maybe in US US knows what we are our traditional telco with little over 20,000 people Very good. Thank you So other than of course the the sun in the great barbecue that you can find in the great state of Texas What what in particular brought you to data cloud USA here in Austin? Yeah on my agenda, of course We have a we have a great new modern data center in Helsinki And of course I'm here to to look for for customer that that US customer when they're entering the European market I think that that the Nordics in general and Finland is a very very great place in addition to traditional places like Frankfurt or Amsterdam today That's that's the main reason to be here. We are a color. I'm a co-location provider. That's that's that's my main job so We've heard a lot of great Thought leadership taught and you know and people talk about Sustainability alongside energy within our data center space Have you heard any key takeaways or anything you think that will really help to start advance our industry as we Move move forward with greening the data center space if you will yeah, I think that Here is a lots of discussions in in us where where we should be and where we should go I Think most of the data center and not talking only on my own also or there's competitor in the Nordics We are already there and and of course this is going to be a tough year. Thanks to the Situation in Ukraine with with with energy prices going up and so on But but in in general, we don't we don't have any bigger issues with with the availability of green energy In the Nordics and in the Finland. We have been running our data center on on hydro for the last four years So so that's not in that. It's not an issue one particular thing is Finland is going to open a new nuclear power plant that means that we will have the base base for for for energy when when it's not blowing or the Sun is not shining so because you know We have a winter time when this is little tricky. So so so from that point of view, I think today It's not only on this event This is also on other events that that there are lots of talking about where should we go But but we can already prove that we are there We do all of these things that that that already Here people are talking about we have our UPSS Integrated to the network grid. So if there is like a blackout in the in the grid We can support the grid with with with our UPSS We don't use any data center in the in the Nordics. We only use water in our toilets We don't use water for cooling We don't we don't use water for cooling. We most of the data center is 90 95 percent of time running on free cooling So so these are things and as I said Generally all data center in the Nordic runs on either high hydro or or wind So so I think we are already there It sounds like you're and I love that you're absolutely leading by example in showing You know, these are the things that we can do as an industry Do you think that others are ready for some of the more strict? emissions regulations that are coming I I think we all have to be ready Of course, it's a little easier to say that that since this beta center that I represent that that was a Purpose built data center. We were opened it in 2018 so we could plan To be green already and and and Thelia is a I think also a forerunner the company overall We have already been co2 neutral internally since 2020 I think 2020 And and we are also putting a lots of efforts now into the so-called scope 3 That that that we are also required that by 2025 75 percent of all our partners should also have these commit sense So really really end end to end stuff A little challenge is that maybe that that can we can you really put this into customer prices? I don't I don't know. I think still in in the end the thing is that is the money who makes the word go run but but If we want to have a Better and more sustainable word we we have to suffer somewhere and and for that reason, I think that it's much much more Greener to have data centers in the Nordic for example somewhere in southern Europe. There is much much warmer or so on So that that's the thing Answer your question. I don't know did I answer your question? I I think that that over the years This will be the standard. You have to be green if you want to be in the data center That's right because ready or not here it comes so we but we love that you're leading the way and In making some great points and we love that you're here today at data cloud in here with us at jsa tv live Real quickly just for our viewers. Where can we go to learn more about what you guys are doing and working on? One one URL is looking at the telia.fi slash data center. There you will find it Great. All right. We'll check it out. Thank you so much for being here Thank you to our viewers for joining us and as always happy networking Welcome back to jsa tv live, of course the live streaming news source here at data cloud usa We're enjoying day two in austin of data cloud lots going on and we have a lot to get to but right now We are talking with jim buoy. He's the president and ceo of involta. Thank you so much for joining us here at data cloud and jsa tv live Absolutely. Thank you for having me So let's get down to to business you guys have a lot going on at involta lately But first for those who might not be familiar. Can you just give us a quick history? And of course we were bonding just before this because you're an iowa-based company And I grew up in iowa cedar rapids. Iowa. Let's go. So we're actually celebrating our 15th birthday in business Born and bred company out of the midwest. We are a national hybrid it providers So we've grown out of our humble midwest beginnings to be a national hybrid it provider We focus on tier two and three markets and really have a specialty and Bill knowning and operating data centers cloud platforms cyber security and other services And we're so glad to have you focusing on those markets. There's definitely a lot of need there And you recently had a big project in cleveland. Can you tell us about that? Yeah, we're so excited, you know, we really view Cleveland as a hub for us and really we think about it as northeast ohio. So we actually have four data centers in ohio. We have canton independence, which is a suburb of cleveland Akron and youngstown and we're able to use the ohio market as really a hub for data if you think about The secular trends and just the expansion of data and moving data across the country from east to west northeast ohio Is a great hub that expansion that we've put in place We're up to 10 megawatts of capacity overall in northeast ohio and that'll continue to grow I think if you look at the challenges of tier one markets with utilities And everything that's going on cleveland's just in northeast ohio is just a great place for people to make a choice to To store their data securely reliably Yeah, absolutely, and this comes on the heels of some transition And we should say congratulations to you by the way that was part of that transition With your executive leadership team Can you just tell us about that and and what you've been doing as you've stepped into the role of president and ceo? Yeah, you bet this uh, I'm so excited. I've been with involta now for six years and from day one I said You know, I always wanted to run the company. So right away Our founder bruce lariman worked with me on that succession plan. So we knew Ultimately, this would be my company to hand the baton off to but Bruce lariman and we still have to move to the board. So he's vice chair of our board still talk to him every day Very instrumental and I feel very fortunate you think about The board that we have with the carlyle investment which came in january We have operators on our board. I think a lot of Infrastructure fund and private equity back companies have a lot of financial expertise Which we certainly have a depth of financial expertise with the carlyle group But if you look at the operational expertise on our board including bruce and gary wojcak It's a pretty and steve gray guys who have built and run very successful businesses in the industry You know the sky's the limit. So very couldn't couldn't pick better people to work with couldn't be happier with Where we're headed That's amazing. It's even it's even better if you love what you do and who you're doing it with. Yeah So you've been around for 15 years. What's what's the secret in the sauce? And how do you continue to be prosperous and grow after that long because for our for our industry in the data center You know, we're still a young company. So having somebody or a young industry So having a 15-year veteran in the room. That's something to to give a shout out to Appreciate that. I I think um, you know, we when we're celebrating our 15th birthday as a company We talked about unicorn companies and I mean companies fail not just in our industry, but the failure rate's high So to achieve what we have but we also think of it as just a beginning We have a net promoter score program with our clients And if you're familiar with that program, it's a scale of negative 100 to Positive 100 and we're 79 like that shows you how much our clients Really love to work with us. We solve a ton of very challenging it problems We attach technology solutions to their business problems. We help them to grow their businesses I think if you do that, you know, if you really focus on Your customer experience and your employee experience, you're going to be around for a, you know, we'll be around for another 15 years I you know, I'm hopeful not just my kids, but my grandkids We consider working for emolta and that's the type of business we we built the business To run for in perpetuity, but it's clients clients and employees. That's what really drives the the business Absolutely, you're absolutely right. Absolutely. So one last question And then we'll let you go because I know that you're preparing to go and do a panel Upcoming here at 11 o'clock on industry disruption and the metaverse. Can you give us a little preview of what you're talking about? Sure, I'd love to I I think, you know, it's interesting like people Look at secular trends in the industry and the explosion of data Well, imagine, you know, you create a more immersive web And whether it's a complete virtual reality, which we've seen a lot of content and gaming Or augmented reality, which if you remember the Super Bowl and you know integrating real life with the virtual world The amount of data that's necessary to create And and real time Have that data It's like nothing you've ever seen the amount of data in the world, you know, the the number of zettabytes That we're going to have in the world that needs storage transportation It's going to be incredible for the industry. I'm excited for the panel to talk about it And get some ideas from other people But I think it drives the industry that the size of the pie if you will For the industry is going to be unbelievable the next 10 years in large part to the metaverse and they're real business use cases Which we'll we'll talk about some of those All right, well, we look forward to listening into it as much as we can So, um real quickly, where can we go to learn more about involta and what you guys have coming down the pike? Yeah, the best place is uh our website www.involta.com All right, thank you so much for being here with us at jsa tv and at data cloud best of luck on the panel Although I know you're going to kill it so you don't even need my well wishes and thank you so much for joining us here on jsa tv live As always happy networking Welcome back to jsa tv live the live streaming new source here at data cloud usa day two here in austin texas And we grabbed michael donahue the managing director of cumulus data off the floor to come up and talk to us But you guys have a lot of great things going on. So we're we're definitely excited to hear from you Thanks for being here with us at jsa tv. Yeah, absolutely So happy to be here in austin. We're based out of houston. So it's an easy commute across And it's been a great few days. Absolutely. Well, let's get right into it. Let's talk about cumulus later data Excuse me for for people who just might not be familiar with you yet Just let us know who you are and what you do great. So cumulus data what we're trying to do is Something Inventive and different than anywhere else in the in the world actually We're building a data center campus directly connected to a nuclear plant in northeast pennsylvania and what we're trying to solve for is like is what we like to call the tri lemma and the the The data center data center industry right now is trying to solve for clean power cheap power and also reliable power And when you connect to a nuclear power plant, you get that right? It's net zero power It's on all the time and it's relatively cheap. So we we find that it's just the perfect solution How are you finding that people are are accepting that and I know you're working a lot with nuclear energy as well So how is that being accepted and with with who you're working with and just with the broader community? Sure. So It's been accepted very well It's taken a little bit of time over the past two years since we started the project to Get everybody educated But I think the idea is that as people become more and more educated with nuclear they find that it is Has to be part of the equation to get us to net zero Um renewables were a good start the energy company that I work for we're building renewables and we're we embrace renewables But to truly get to a net zero grid. We need to include nuclear So as we've as we've gone out and talked to hyperscalers and enterprise customers The more and more we educate them the more and more they get really excited one of the statistics that we've used from a recent un study Is that nuclear's greenhouse gas emissions over the course of its life cycle? It's half of that of wind and Yeah, half of that of wind and so when you think about trying to get again to net zero nuclear Is just a great solution to help help the broader equation Absolutely, and sustainability has been a really big topic of conversation here at data cloud usa Have you taken away any? Good nuggets of information and things that you think you can continue to think on and use after you leave here Yeah, for sure I think the next generation we have there's all there's 99 reactors right now in the us and there used to be more they've shut down due to economic reasons And I so I think the first step is we want to try to take our idea and maybe Explore other sites that we could do this But after we explore those other sites the next step is small module reactors I've heard a lot of people talking about that And if if nuclear is going to be part of the solution, I think that needs to be you know included in the discussion Need to get the regulatory agencies to help um move that along and you know There's been a lot of discussion on that and that's really Encouraging because I think two years ago if you were to sit on any environmental uh sustainable panels It probably would have never came up Yeah, very interesting Well, I love that you guys are just looking at other ways that we can continue to build and and make this Space that we work in more green and I can't let you go without mentioning That you are a greener data fan hashtag greener data, of course is what I'm talking about what um What what drew you to that? Book that we have here Of course shameless plug for our greener data book available at greener data dot net if you don't already have your copy Yeah, absolutely. So um as a member of iMason's d nelson He's he has been really a big advocate of greener data And I so I came from the energy industry and so as coming across to the energy industry trying to You know get up to speed on the data center industry And what what a better way than learning how the industry in general is trying to become greener And it's you know 20 different stories from 20 different people talking about how their companies are working towards sustainability So I ended up getting uh, I bought 20 books off of amazon and tried to pass them out to across You know across our office to different people who want to get involved with the data center industry And the feedback has been tremendous from every everyone who's read the book We are so happy to hear that and of course just keep following Hashtag greener data and greener data dot net if you just want to learn a little bit more about that But last question before we let you get out of here Just where can we go to learn more about who you guys are and what you have coming up? As far as projects sure cumulus.com you can go online and find out more about our cumulus data projects our wind and solar projects and our storage projects Thank you so much for stopping by with us at jsa tv You hope you have a fabulous rest of the conference and thank you as always for tuning in to jsa tv live and happy networking Welcome back to jsa tv live We are the live streaming new source for data cloud usa here in austin texas And it's been a wonderful day two of the conference. We're just about to wrap things up But before we do we wanted to sit down and have a conversation with hosé Guillema with data center directors with call here. Thank you so much for joining us on jsa tv live. Thank you Thank you so much for everybody me So how has your data cloud conference been as we're wrapping things up and things are starting to wind down I think it's been excellent. It's a great opportunity for us. You know, we come far away Spain and it's been a pleasure in the event And I think that we've learned lots of things and it's been a real pressure Attending even yeah, absolutely So call here is for those who don't know is one of the leading data center operators in spain In that market. So can you just offer some insight into what you guys do and then why that geographic location is so enticing? yeah, actually We are real estate advisory company and what we provide is uh, you know A complete and exhaustive Advisory throughout the publishing of the data center from the data from the land acquisition to the development of the of the facility And also we we got a good resources regarding corporate transactions someone and let's say that our our footprint is limited to spain and portugal despite we have strong operations in the uk hitaly and obviously in the us with our teammates Uh, but yes, I think that spain has gained a lot of momentum to say in the last years Because of the constraints that us operators and the other operators in the in the european countries Are facing in the flat market, you know firm for london aslam and peris And you know geographically spain is ideal. It's uh, excellent landing station for subsea cables fiber connectivity stop class and we are we have plenty of supply and Capacities in terms of renewable energy So, uh, I think it's a great great place to to launch your your investments in the data set space Absolutely investments not operators. I apologize for that So let's talk about fiber connectivity though as you just mentioned the fiber connectivity is is strong there So how does the fiber connectivity in spain compared to the other parts of europe? I think it's the class For the last decade. I think there has been a great investment in terms of fiber and Dark fiber in the whole penis you are in peninsula And uh, we are taking advantage of it. I mean that doesn't operate us from from spain if you take into account standard applications requirements of 65 milliseconds latency You can get you can reach north america south america through brazil you can you can reach north africa You know Middle east and then center europe this in fact only 35 35 percent of the data managed by the dot center operators that center Facilities that are in spain um are managed and are Let's say consumed by the spanish market the rest is we are providing services to the rest of europe and north africa and someone Definitely an emerging market and something to keep an eye on We're here at the conference. We're talking a lot about sustainability and greening that data center space Spain has been making some pretty good strides with renewable energy So can you just talk to us a little bit about what you're seeing and how that's benefiting the industry as a whole? I mean, uh, the spanish market is really They they know in fact that uh being easier compliant and And getting the energy from you know, and in green resources is a must Not just regulatory but also from the commercial side. I mean customers require that and you have to comply with it And I think that spain is really very good positioned in terms of uh, renewal energy. We are great. Uh, there's a lot of uh solar farms windmills and so on and uh, I think that hybridization in that regard would be a very good solution for You know reaching this green data center It's a ideal framework And uh, in fact, uh, we announced back in may a project in huesca just beside aws campus in spain and we are very fun of it and We'll see we'll see it's very exciting the next ones And a lot of challenges That is exciting. So congratulations definitely something to be celebrated Can we talk real real quickly about madrid and what's the role of that city as the the market continues to emerge Madrid has a bandage that is it's in a 60 600 kilometers radius from any point of the coast in of spain So that in terms of connectivity, it's a very good interconnection point. There's a plenty of uh, of uh, of sources to to to provide that connectivity and Then the fact is that 90 percent of the current installed capacity of data centers in spain It's it's it's already, uh, installed in madrid. No, Barcelona is is is just behind, you know, maybe a couple years Before but uh, they are still announcing big projects there. So, uh, I think most of the requirements in different investment is related to madrid A madrid is you know in nowadays it has 100 mega watts Install capacity and they're gonna reach 600 in the next four years. So I think that they're gonna You know, you know catch the flat market very shortly. So that's that's the target So five to ten years down the line. What do you see for the overall data center market in in spain? I hope that Well, I'm certain that we will be the the south of new hub for data centers Uh, we will take advantage of the, you know, uh, african market growth We'll see I think that's plenty of opportunities We have a lot of generation possibilities in terms of energy And I think that in the end we will become very relevant in the european market Very good. Lots of exciting things to come for sure Where can we go to just keep an eye on all of the things that you guys have coming and what you're seeing? Sure. Thank you Um, can you tell our viewers where they can go to learn more about your company? You can go to colors.com. I think that uh, that you can find our contacts or also in colors spain And we're we're happy to to help you in any of your requests Fantastic. Thank you so much for joining us here on JSA tv live and thanks to our viewers for tuning in and happy networking