 I'm here with April right and what a DC group are you ahead of six six seven where is that located cool and how long has that been that group been around we just had our first meeting oh just started so how did that go how how was the turnout it went really well we had almost 50 people wow very nice a lot of interest there in Boston it's very cool and what are some of the things your group is interested in people well we have a really strong security scene in Boston there's several meetups already some of them are more lecture based so we decided to go with more of a workshop base where we work on projects and cts we have a sister city in Johannesburg oh very cool and uh what is uh and what made you want to start a defcon group um you introduced me to vt as the Boston defcon group coordinator that could have that could have been a factor yeah uh no i i don't know um we it's fun to actually like hang out and pack things with people instead of just um listening to talks sometimes and we need to do more so i think it's really important that the community gets together as often as possible very cool and uh how often do you meet um about every month we haven't gotten into a regular cadence yet um but we tend to meet on tuesday okay and um so when and what day tuesdays and sometimes thursdays like the first of the month or the last of the month toward the beginning of the month okay and uh what are your meetings like well the first one was uh really communal we sat and talked about what we wanted out of the group um we're trying to figure out um how we can make it awesome for everybody and we don't want it to be about a couple of people that are running it we want it to be very unified by the groups very cool and uh what is your leadership structure like there are a couple of people that are helping try to get locations and things like that for us but and a couple of people on the website and the twitter um but really we don't have a lot of leadership we're um we're just sort of like uh communism it's like i'm not gonna make the obvious boston jokes so it's like uh because that would be bad uh so uh what is the main thing that you uh or the key thing you want people to know about your group um there's actually a really incredible mix of people from uh absolute news to jaded packers and people on the red side the blue side the um and everywhere in between uh so there's lots of things for people to learn and lots of people that want to teach and help and grow and we all want to basically learn all the things that sounds like a plan well uh thank you for your time