 For the first time in weeks since the scarcity of premium motorist spirits, popularly called petrol, began the federal government opened up and declared on Wednesday that there was no plan to increase the pump price of petrol, at least during the Ultite season. However, the government's comments came amid a worsening and persistent fuel scarcity, which spread further on Wednesday across the country. Also, the cost of the commodity rose to as high as 200 and 85 naira per litre in some filling stations in Abuja. Oil marketers stated that black market costs of petrol in Lagos had risen to about 450 naira per litre while it sold for more than that price in some other states. But the government disclosed on Wednesday that there was fuel supply stock that could last the country for 34 days, on the line 34 days. Now, as concerns around fuel and the supply heightened, the federal government declared that it had no plan to increase fuel or petrol price, describing comments on PMS price and its availability as speculations. Well, joining us to break this down, of course, normal Nigerians, this evening we have Daya Khayade, who is a political analyst, and Sunny Maduka, who is also a political analyst. Thank you so much, gentlemen, for joining us tonight. Thank you. Yes, I'm sure that both gentlemen, you all have been either stuck at some filling station queue or you've all been unable to make it to where you were going because you couldn't find a vehicle because there are no vehicles. To see because they're all queuing up to get fuel. But I'm sure one way or the other, this situation has cut up with you. But I'll start with you, Mr Sunny Maduka. It's very interesting that the federal government took this long to break, you know, voice on this matter because they had not spoken about it. We had seen a similar case some time ago, and then that was blamed on the flooding that some of the trucks were stuck somewhere in Lokodau and they were unable to come this way. Here we are again weeks later into the Yultide season. And don't forget, this is the same country where the NNPC has not remitted a cover into the federal coffers. What exactly do you think is going on in our oil sector right now? Well, Ann is a syndicated fraud. Let me put it that way. And of course, if you're looking at the promises of this government, you will miss it because this government has never lived up to its promises since 2015. When they came in, I remember their fuel price was around 87, and they told Nigerians that they are not going to increase. And just like that, we had it 145 from 145 160. I think the problem we're having really is that the government has never been sincere. It tells Nigerians the truth about issues. And these tactics of scarcity are proud to price increase. It has never helped an ordinary man. And we have always had this particular policy guideline by the government. And I was just asking myself, why don't we change the tactics? Because any time government wants to increase, the tendency is that they are going to have what we're having today. Yesterday, I went out, I drove everywhere, I couldn't get any fuel. In fact, the fuel attendants were making money out of it. Even for jerry cans, they have to collect 500. I say I'm not paying anything, I just have to take back my car. And I keep asking myself, where is this patriotism amongst Nigerians? We have immigration. We have police. We have customs. We have, I mean, manning our borders. Still, these products are finding their way outside. Two, how can somebody tell me as of today that Nigeria is consuming 60 million litres of fuel? When the country that has the same population with us are consuming less than 30 million. What happened? That's what I call the syndicated fraud sector. Look, we have a minister of petroleum, our president. He has never said anything about petroleum problem or crisis in this country. Just recently I've asked somebody, we spend a lot on the revitalisation or rehabilitation of what are called refinery, worry refinery, even cardinal refinery. What happened to the money we spend there? Why do we have to spend over 30 billion in cardinal refinery that is not working? So everything about petroleum sector has become a gangster kind of. Why is somebody doing this? And let me tell you, and this problem, this conspiracy of subjecting the Nigerians into hardship didn't start today. In 1973, Gowan increased on price from 6 Kobo to 8 Kobo 45. When Moritala came, Moritala increased it to 9 Kobo. And when OBJ first time came, he increased it to 15 Kobo. And of course when Shagari came, he jumped start to 20 Kobo. And then when IBB jumped in, it increased to 70 Kobo. OBJ second coming, jumped it from 70 Kobo to 75 Naira. Look at the gap. The only person that has the interest of Nigerians up to today that I look up and I say that is the only person that can call my present year a doer. Who came in and reduced the pump price from 75 to 65 Naira. But when Jonathan came, the spree continued. What is it that ordinary Nigerians can benefit in this country? This is what God has given to us. Why can't we benefit from it? Why is it that we keep on saying the same thing, blaming games? Is there no way we can have what I call a strategic thinking process? Is there no way we can have a planned process whereby we can think about it today, we can think about tomorrow? Why is it that everything we keep on blaming, we keep on giving excuses and for being like I used to tell you, every excuse to me is a lie? We must start like a nation and do this right. Let me come to you Mr Coyote. He raised an interesting point about the fact that too many questions have been raised as a result of this. The fact that Mr President seems to be very tight lipped about this being that Mr President is our Minister for Petroleum. Recently we've also seen that this continuous cut in change or name change for the NNPC keeps getting re-christened for one reason or the other. But the EAPMAN controller operations, Mike Osato, you recently said that subsidy is enabling smuggling long queues and he's asking that there be some form of deregulation. Do you think that subsidy is also a major problem that we're facing in this country? Thank you for having me and bringing all these kinds of discounts at this point in time. Let me start this. The only reason substance in this nation or in any economy is energy and power. And all these two, with energy, have been changed when it comes to these two. And then when you now look at where most budgetary allocations are going to, it's still on these two. So the questioner is why. Now let us now limit our disposal to energy, which has to do with petrol, diesel and all that. When you look at our ability to upgrade our manufacturing industry, to increase our GDP, to ensure free-flow compensation for the people, to ensure that people need a meaning to standard of living, because the things on this way are energy. But then we find out that each day that breaks comes with its own complexities and problems on this. Presently, NNPC's name will change. And they realize a lot of things there. And I came out to tell them, look, if you are changing this name of NNPC, it is not my own problem. But to what extent are we going to solve our energy problem? To what extent are we going to ensure that all these refineries are working to be able to restore or ameliorate these incestions, strategies of work in Nigeria? To what extent are you going to bring the bounds? So many people are being refineried here and there. But look at where we are now. Rather, rather, it is a kind of strategy to be siphoning our commonwealth. Imagine if I had to have been telling you that, I think, that they are not worrying about increasing prices. And then suddenly, in NNPC, you are saying this. So people are directing this square. So people are smuggling this square. That's why we are having this problem. So people are saying, is it you and or me that are able to access this smuggling and they are putting it now? Is it not them? Why are we not all in this country when even the other customs were given names as regards to people that are siphoning of these products? In this same country, I think the chief of all of these services said the same thing. Why are we not siphoning ourselves? What is going on for that increasing? The future gap between them and we before you are. Now, all of the studies, all of the studies, more price has now jumped from 1.75 to 2.50, to 2.60. The one I bought last week, which I am now using little by little, 30 litres. 30 litres. I paid 8,000 to buy 30 litres. And that's the truth. Where do we go from here? Everything as the government is just all promising countries. And you now be coming to be telling us lies. I love the reputation that Michael visited your program. Look at the way the government has been increasing the price over the years, except here that you are very busy. Was it that you are having too much to be able to know that yes, what we are paying for is too high? And look at this government, when they were in the opposition, they were telling us that Chostody was a scam. Who is not a scammer? Are they not a scammer? Are they not a scammer last night? Telling us that they are going to reduce the price to 45 Naira. Is it 45 Naira now? If you look at the answer, they thought the way is increasing to 1.41. I am curious. I want to quickly come in. Talking about the issues that you have raised, whether it be the issue of the oil vessel that was found and destroyed at sea by the army and said that there was no need for an investigation or whether it be the issue of the stolen crude, et cetera, et cetera. I am trying to understand. Why is this so highly politicised? Why are we making it more of a political issue as opposed to getting the right things done? Again, as we speak, the former party chairman of the APC Adams, Sean Mullay, has said that the ongoing fuel scarcity is as a result of the fact that the PDP costs some of the basic problems. In fact, he is blaming the People's Democratic Party for the ongoing fuel scarcity. Why are we politicising it? You see, on the part of Sean Mullay, the two of you are me, a result of what is happening with a black bankage. Because he has been one of the problems in this country when he was the Labour leader. Well, I can't believe it. We are aware of what happened there. But don't let us up on it. Now, go back to that bond business that was cut for bunkering. Why did they bond that business? It's not because some information needed to be covered. You have not done any investigation for goodness sakes. When you catch a thief, do you kill the thief, or do you want to buy a parade such a thief, and then do a lot of investigation on self-reflection? And then you cut that. You put this in the version. Even for you to cover up some information as you go behind the bunkering. So what information do you have about this? I think that's where the question mark is. But because we do not have too much time, I'm going to quickly switch to Mr Madukar as we wrap up. Where do we go from here, Mr Madukar? Because it's very interesting. All of the things that we see play out on a daily basis, questions acts, no answers, Nigerians in limbo. We're gradually getting into election season in closing because we're out of time. Where do we go from here? And what will be a thing of the past? It will be a thing of the past. When the government is sincere. I think Nigerians need to be sincere in government. Secondly we need to liberalise the downstream sector. License those big companies that can bring in the product. As are today, it is only an NPC. byddwch yn gwynnol, subscribers wedi cael eu hunain. Mae o'r dyfodol yw'r cyffredinoleso ag Lord Fyllt. Mae ydy'r cyffredinol yn gyffredinol. A yna 有Yna'n cael ei hyn amws yw gyffredinol. Mae'r cyffredinol yn cyfredinol o'r cwmysgau at y byd. Ond yw ni'n gofynio ar y byddwch chi i'n ei gyffredinol ar gyfer gweithdo. and secondly we need to actually ask questions Why should we build a refinery in Nigeria Republic and not in Nigeria. that is the question we need to ask because it's one thing to cover something is another thing to understand the implication of covering it the government should come out clean and tell us Ac mae'r wettig yn i'r ddangotech. 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