 I was, I was good friends with Safari, that was my boy. Okay. College and shit. All right. So somebody got to get their fashion. Cause what I, what I, what I read was that while you were working with soldier that was why when you got your first inquiry about working with Nikki and you say, hold on, cause let me tell you what they saying out there that you said that you couldn't work with Nikki because you had your hands tied with soldier. And I was like, I needed to ask you about that. I'm just a little freaking like PCP or some shit to say something about retirement. Yeah. No, I literally wanted to make sure that I talk to you about that. Cause I'm like, it's no way that you turn Nikki down for soldier. Nah, Safari hit me. He was like, yo bro, um, send some beats, I'm going to get you on the, on the next project. And there was a New York, yo, I cooked up like Nikki. Yeah. I said so, but she don't play. I cooked up like a hundred beats. Yeah. And she only shows one. Like, yo, so far it's like, you're not, not down. She's like, what the hell is that? What's that? Yeah. So far corn, he's like, yo, bro, I'm like, yo, bro, I said, like 30 beats, bro. I was like, what's she want? What she want? So like the bang bang, I swear to God, that was like some, like a, yo, what the fuck she want? Yo, like I just did some bullshit. Like something that I know, like her type of flow, like I said, she want this shit. She want this type of bullshit. That's when they said I add the little, I was like, yo, here and she, she was like, what the hell? And I was like, what? Yeah. I mean, that was like, I even liked that beat. I was like, what the fuck? And it's crazy because that was like one of the biggest songs on album too. Willow Wayne. Yeah. Like Willow Wayne. So how did it feel? Pink Friday drop, Roman reloaded drop a month after Exodus drop coming at young money, coming at Wayne, crazy. How did that feel to you? Did you feel like, because an important part of that too is Wayne's response was, fuck push the D and everybody that fuck with him. So what was your reaction after finding out about that? No lie. No lie. Pushing my bro. That's like my day one. You know what I'm saying? We've been cool for like probably like 20 years. I didn't care. The first thing that came out of my mind was like, damn son, I ain't gonna get no record with JD. I ain't gonna get no record with, no more record with Wayne. I said, yo, it's over. Yeah, the time is up. I already knew it. I said, yes, all right. I'm never gonna get nothing over there. That's what I was really tired about. I was like, fuck it with these niggas. When he's my man, I was like, oh boy. So did you feel like it hurt any of your like business? Yeah. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Did you see it outwardly or was it something that you kind of just like felt? Because some people like outwardly talk about. I knew it, man. Because like even some of the producers that work with Drake and shit, I felt the vibes. They knew like I'll be pushing niggas gonna be fucking with me like that. You know what I'm saying? Because some of them like, you know what I mean? Shot to vinyl, that's my boy, vinyl's cool. But some other ones that's really deep in it, I don't really care. I don't really think it's like their personal shit. If nobody, if no shot's fired, nobody getting hurt, nobody rumbling, I don't really, I understand that. It's not real beef. It's like, I think it's like some music shit or whatever it is. I don't really think it's like, I don't be a big pusher, I don't, I don't be around pushing for him. So that's why I don't even take cash in series. It'd be like, it's like, you know, rap, little rap personal stuff between them. I feel like I can understand, not I can understand, but I think what's funny is the sample went crazy. The ha ha ha ha. Yo, that was, that was, that was like dream, yo, we was, that really went crazy and dream like dream. That's what he'll do. He'll like play football. He like playing NFL. So he'll go in the booth, do his thing and go downstairs, play video games for like two hours. He'll hum something in the booth for like an hour. He'll hum a whole record. No words. Then go down, play his little video games and go back and just fill in the whole record. A true musician. So while he was doing that, he was like, man, what you doing, nigga, you trying, nigga, you ain't working, nigga, with a beat tag, with a beat tag, with that, I said, yo, I'm about to cook some chicks. I mean, you ain't got no fucking kid. You ain't cooking shit. You ain't got no heat. You ain't gonna do that. He kept like taunting me. Like, you ain't gonna bring no heat. I said, all right, why? I said, I'm about to break some shit tonight or whatever he said, man, whatever, whatever. So I went down and I forgot what studio's Miami Beach did, one of them shits. And I was just going through stuff and I was listening to that Biggie record and I just heard the, ha, ha, ha, ha. And I told the engineer, I said, yo, bro, chop that right there. I said, that's the beat. I said, chop that. He chopped it. He sent it to me. But the beat, the Exodus beat is not the beat. It's not the original beat I did. Like dream. It was, that beat was so freaking dark and demonic. It was so up. It was mad. Other sounds in there. Yeah. There was a lot going on. Dream said it's too much going on. He just like took out this. He just took out mad. I think he kept like one, two sounds. Yeah. I mean, it definitely didn't help the situation that the song that you sampled was what's beef. Yeah. So it all seemed very intentional. Yeah. I was like, I'm a troublemaker. Yeah, man. Like even with the Nicki record, it was around the time when they were saying, yo, Nicki's pop. She's going super pop. She's not rapping. And she addressed that in this one too. I remember Flex was saying it and like a week later she dropped Bang. So I hadn't. So it's just like, if you got like beef, you want some beef shit. She said Nicki pop. The only thing that's pop is my endorsement. She made it known. She made it known. Mm. That was T. Want more? Check out our website at www.talkinatownshow.com and don't forget to like, comment and subscribe.