 This is what a National MP said about you. Sure. If she'd just shut her mouth and been a good deputy, they wouldn't have had that appalling bungalow. What do you think they're referring to? Well, look, again, I don't know who you're talking to, but I do think that obviously the comment that I made in terms of Māori representation in our caucus, I very much acknowledged that I made a mistake. And I think part of leadership is owning that. How did you make that mistake? Well, basically I was advised by someone in the building. We had had a query in terms of Māori representation, but I was wrong. Yeah. So did you misconstrue that text that you got from Joe Hayes, which said, what did that text message say? Look, I'm not going to go into that tova, but... Did Joe tell you that Paul Goldsmith was... I don't think it's helpful, tova, to go into... Well, it's good to clear up whether you're throwing her under the bus or whether... No. So did you misconstrue her under the she-tell-you category? I don't think it's helpful at all to say who advised me. The thing that I would say, though, tova, is I am very prepared, if I'm deputy leader, to stand up and own my mistakes, and I made a mistake. And you apologized to him? Yes, I did. It speaks volumes, though, about the lack of diversity on your front bench, though, doesn't it? On that top 12, not a single Māori MP in your top 12. So was that by design or was that ignorance? Look, I think there's a couple of things. Firstly, the most important thing from our perspective is that we have the most competent team as possible. But what I do acknowledge is it is very important to have Māori voice within the caucus. We have some extraordinary Māori MPs in national, whether that is Joe, Hariti, Shane Reti, Simon, Paula. So, I mean, I think from our perspective... Tova goes with...in the leadership duo a couple of weeks ago. But the reality is, tova, as you know, we are fighting hard to win an election and we have to have the best team to be put forward on that. Yeah, so... It wrecks of ill-informed misguided judgment, doesn't it? When you're trying to make a Pākehā MP Māori to up the quota of Māori MPs on your front bench. No, it doesn't. Was it by design or was it ignorance? No, it doesn't. I was advised by someone recently reliable in the building. I'm not going to go into who that was, but I made a mistake. And I think the reality is we do need to do more as a country in terms of diversity and representation, but we have been very clear that we need to have the most competent group of people and we have made decisions on that.