 Now, this is an interesting question. Where do you see objectivism having influence in subtle and significant ways today in the culture? That's a good question, because I think to the extent that objectivism has influence, it is in subtle ways and not in explicit ways. So let me say something strange, I guess, because of my attitude towards Trump. I think that to the extent that there are people in the Trump administration who are oriented towards deregulation, oriented towards reducing the burden on business and freeing up markets. And I think there are people like that within the administration. I don't think Trump particularly cares, but I think there are people. Not at the very senior level, not people like minutia and the Treasury, or certainly not in the trade team. But in the agencies, I think that attitude and the confidence to do it is inspired to a large extent by Iran and by reading Iran and through her influence. I think that is true. Stephen Miller, the economist, is a fan of Iran. If you meet Stephen Miller, the guy at the White House, then maybe he's a fan of Iran's, but he's no good guy. He's a real bad guy. So I don't know. So I'd say within the various think tanks, within the free market world, within the Republican world where presidents would pick people and put them in the administration in various roles, there is a significant number of people who have been inspired by Iran and where objectivism is having an influence on them. I think I've said in my show, PVC, that I've been told, now this is a year ago, so that in the White House, literally in the White House, there are people who listen to this show and who are influenced by, I don't know what that means. I believe the source who told me this. So I believe that there are people like that. So I think nobody who can be explicit about it, nobody is going to take the ideas all out, nobody who maybe understands the ideas fully, but inspired. I think that's true, too. In the broader free market movement, or what some people call the libertarian movement, but in the free market movement, there's very little. The free market movement is to the extent that it's big, to the extent that it's growing, to the extent that it's international. All of that is a consequence of INRAND and objectivism. Without INRAND, the free market movement would be a lot smaller. There's a little libertarian book that was published once called It All Begins With INRAND. I think that's absolutely true. I think not only does it begin, but it continues. I think a lot of, I interviewed about a week ago this economist who, from SMU, and Lawson, and he said, he's kind of a closet objectivist. I don't know what, I don't think he is, but the point is that he's inspired by INRAND, he loves INRAND, he's got a post of INRAND, he's got the books, he's read the books, and all of these guys have, and she's inspired them, even though they don't necessarily take the philosophy seriously, or they haven't adopted the philosophy, or accepted the philosophy completely, or talk about the philosophy, or preach the philosophy, they've internalized it. And I think that many people like that, and I'd say the other place in the culture with that is the case, is in places like Silicon Valley and just business, so many CEOs, so many businessmen in finance, in hedge funds industry, in Silicon Valley, in all kinds of industries, all over the world, they might be religious, they might be even leftist, they might all be all over the place philosophically. But many of them will tell you they would not have reached where they are if not for INRAND's influence, enough for INRAND's, enough for reading her books. So, so many of the founders of Silicon Valley were influenced by INRAND, so many of the Fortune 500 CEOs, and I think it's ongoing, I think it's continuous. So, those are the places in business, a little bit in politics, although, most superficially, and certainly in academia, particularly among the free market, kind of economist types that are out there. That's where I think the influence is. But even in philosophy, so in somebody like Greg Salomeo, we'd be better to comment on this, but there's a whole field now called virtue ethics, which is similar in a sense, it's the idea, there was the Chilean idea that we should live a good life and what are the virtues that are necessary to living a good life. In a sense, it's egoistic, fundamentally. And it's a question whether that field would exist, if not for INRAND, and whether, how much INRAND has influenced the people in that field. So, it's, and even, I think even a little bit in epistemology and philosophy, people like Alan Godhelf in Greg Salomeo, he had an influence in the thinking of philosophers in those areas. It's, it's indeed a pleasure to have you with us tonight. I'm delighted to be here. I know that you probably don't appear on many shows of this nature. It's kind of a crazy entertainment show, generally, although we do like to sit down occasionally and get some views of people that are important in the world today. Well, I don't, there's a proof of entertainment. In fact, I've been watching you many times. I'm very, very happy. I know it's very difficult to state any philosophical principles like objectivism in a short period of time or to condense it, but can you give us some basic idea of objectivism and the principles of philosophy that you believe in? All right, now I'll make it very brief with the understanding that anyone who really is interested would look it up in my books, particularly in Atlas Shugged, because otherwise I can't give a long discourse and proof here. So just as mentioning the highlights, the basic principle of objectivism is that man must be guided exclusively by reason. Reason is the faculty that identifies and integrates the material provided by his senses. That's a formal definition. That reason is man's only tool of knowledge, his only guide to action, and his only guide to the choice of values. As a consequence of that, man's proper ethics or morality is a morality of rational self-interest, which means that every man has a right to exist for his own sake and he must not sacrifice himself to others or sacrifice others to himself. That the achievement of his own rational happiness is the highest moral purpose of his life. As a consequence of that, the only system, the only political system which expresses this morality is the system of laissez-faire capitalism, by which I mean full, unregulated, uncontrolled capitalism, a system based on the recognition of individual rights, including property rights in which all properties owned by private individuals. The principle which ties morality to politics is the principle that no man has the right to initiate physical force, violence, compulsion against other men. Men have certainly the right of self-defense, but no man, no group of men that includes the government, has the right to initiate force and to force a man to act against his own judgment. Now this is the essence of the philosophy. Your objectivism is, in a way, of course, why there's so much controversy is that it is almost contrary to, I guess, the cultural beliefs as people have been brought up, true, as to sacrifice the good of your fellow men and not to have the self-egoism and self-sacrifice as you call it. Not almost contrary, the exact opposite. And you're saying that man should first serve his own self-interest and be interested in himself first. I wouldn't say first, I would say only, but you would have to explain this. Other men can be of interest to an individual if they represent values, moral values. You serve your own interests best by finding, associating with, working with the right kind of people. Therefore, other people can be a value, a great value to a man, but only when and if they correspond to his moral ideas, not otherwise. In other words, man does not have to serve anyone, except himself, but he does, in effect, serve others when they're interested in their values using the super chat. 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