 It's time to put off the press on the breakfast and plus TV Africa. Let's introduce our guest, Mr. Tendik Kolawale. Good morning. Thank you for joining us. Good morning, my sister. It was a weekend. Fantastic. Thank you. Let's begin with the punchiest paper this morning. The headline reads, Parallel Congresses. APC threatens strict spell, suspend, or shun, quara, delta, others, errant members. We will not tolerate Parallel Congresses' divisive activities in any state chapter, declares APC. We will take our results to Abuja, that's according to Arabi Shala's group. Ashun Governor's group says no violence, it was hitch-free. Also on the top of the headlines on the punch, it reads, Nigeria spends 1.77 trillion Naira on national cause, SMS in one year. Petrol consumption jumps by 340 million litres in one month. Nigeria's loans from World Bank, AFDB, rise to $14.35 billion under Buhari. Hush, puppy. Suspended Kiari appears before four-man panel this week. Petrol subsidy may go up 2 trillion Naira this year, that's according to Renault boss. External reserves gain $280 million in two weeks. Also, estate surveyors reject Fashalah's monthly house rent proposal. And federal government dismisses Nard strike, resident doctors down to today. Alright, let's move to the nation newspapers next. The big one there says, APC, PDP sink deeper into crisis ahead of 2023 elections. Governors to decide Secunder's fate next week, Kayamo Ogala insists on Buhni's exit. How to save Nigeria from Forex backlash, and that's by experts. I'm also on the nation this morning. Four killed, 50 houses razed in plato state attack. Lady caught with 35 wraps of cocaine. Also, Hush, puppy, police begin Kiari probe, DCP on suspension. Forex pressure to force Nigeria's further fall. And also duties, 30 private jets, risk, customs, seizure. And number 2021, ex-PDP aspirant Ubyora Konkwo takes ZIP ticket. And also COVID-19. Legos record six deaths, 519 cases in two days. Those are the big ones on the nation this morning. And let's now take a look at the next newspaper, The Daily Trust. The headline reads Ali Kachala on veiling the Zamfarat terror kingpin who downed naf jets. His rise in exploits, experts say treats them as terrorists. And security analysts here saying how they can be tackled. Hush, puppy, police begin probe, suspend Kiari. Federal government reformed 620 billion narrator states for federal roads in three years. Dramacist council seals 348 illegal premises in Edou. Presidency to Lamidu reveal how Turkey surrendered governorship ticket to you. APC to expel big weeks over parallel congresses in Quara, Kanu, Lagos, others. And students worry as federal government meets Asu over fresh strike threat. All right. And on the Guardian newspapers and NPCs, FAAC contributions drop as subsidy hits 438 billion Naira. Government faces tough policy options as revenues worsen. OPEC quarter, local challenges undermine production despite rally. And Nigerians consume 2.113 trillion worth of petrol in one year. We can also find on the Guardian this morning, COVID-19 cases, others to suffer as 16,000 resident doctors begin strike today. NMA, N-A-R-D, say family of disease doctors yet to get benefits 115 days after MOU. Government yet to get notice of strike may invite N-A-R-D to parlay today. And also Lagos did not issue directive to reduce allowances of NYSE doctors, says commissioner. Still on the Guardian newspapers, PSC suspends Abba Kiari as Kakaul urges officer to submit for trial. Worries over IPOB's threats to lockdown southeast over Kanu's travail. And we're monitoring developments on Twitter ban Commonwealth tells Nigeria. Ipman to suspend distribution of products in eastern zone over alleged police harassment. And also seven killed in fresh plateau state attack. Mr Kola Wale, good morning once again. Thanks for joining us. Good morning, my brother. Thanks for having me. All right. I think we should start with talking about the crisis with the parties. The story and the nation this morning says APC and PDP sink deeper into crisis ahead of 2023 elections. There's also challenges with Uche Secundus and May Malabuni, as they both have their individual party squabbles. But aside that the ward congresses in different states over the weekend also saw bits of violence in a couple of states. What's your take on how these parties are faring in the build up to the next general elections? Well, what the parties are simply telling us is that the 22 years after this democracy, that they have not grown at all, that they have not developed, that internet democracy is still not reeling or is still not being practiced in most of these political parties. Let's find these experiences of the past 22 years. And why is it that we don't have internet democracy in all our parties? That's about two other things. First and foremost, politics has remained a juicier business that any Nigerian can embark on today. You sold the two or nothing and you reap a bantiful harvest. So all politicians struggle to get into office in a blue-eyed manner. Furthermore, INEC is not an ethnic situation. INEC has merely concentrated on the organization of elections. It hasn't been able to strengthen or at least guide the party on how to strengthen or firm their structures on how to practice internet democracy and also on how to be self-financing and self-accounting. And despite the fact that INEC acts in electoral act, there are no political parties allowed to form or establish private armies and that all Greeks should not be allowed within the principle of politics. INEC has not been able to enforce that law in the last 22 years. More importantly too, just as we have seen in the past, the Godfathers who usually want to impose candidates on the parties and then there will be some other people who have their own ambition too who want to resist this. So when those two forces confront each other, what you get is the kind of crisis that we have seen in the congresses of the APC and some that have also been organized by the PDP. This we pull out democracy, we talk about it, but there are the least democratic elements that you can find in our midst. Now if parties are in this kind of a disarray, if they cannot organize their own domestic affairs in an orderly, lawfully and democratic manner, how would they now be able to manage the society such that they will be able to deliver the dividends of democracy? It will be difficult if not impossible. We as Nigerians are our duty, the responsibility to really overhaul democracy. This is not what we bargain for when people are dictated, fought for, and even made their lives that Nigeria should return to our democratic process. So we need to do about something, about this democracy. Mr Kolawele, you have asked important questions there saying if these parties cannot properly organize themselves, how do we expect them to lead the country moving forward? Also we'll see on the nation newspaper and also across other papers the story about Abba Kiari and a probe that is set to begin due to his link with Hosh Poppy. Later on on the breakfast we'll be speaking extensively about the need for reforms in the police force. But how do you come in here regarding all the links from Hosh Poppy, this renowned internet four star con man to the DCP? Well, the story of Mr Abba Kiari is an open secret. I am surprised that Nigerians are reacting the way that they are reacting. It's as if they don't know what that man has been doing all these years. It is shocking to me. Most criminal lawyers who have interacted with him will readily tell you that the man is not as clean as he has pretended to be. And the company that he keeps are not the company that the police officer should readily keep. I challenge you journalists to go and interview or talk to Evans lawyer that is Barista Ogunbeje. He will tell you the experience that Evans had when the Abba Kiari team went to arrest the man. All his properties were regals, ad currencies, expensive phones, expensive wristwatches, generator sets and all manner of things. The man was cleaned up of it. Without a court of competent jurisdiction, asking Mr Evans to forfeit those things to all the states. There was also a man robber who was sometimes in the past arrested in Kudugudu. His name is Kudugudu. He had about two houses in Kudugudu and then I think from houses in Abba. And different number of vehicles. I challenge you journalists to go and investigate what happened to all those properties after the man was alleged to have traveled, which is an affirmation for being killed in the hands of the entire south side police headed by Abba Kiari at that very time. You also saw what happened at the Buchubana Mothers' Barrier. It's a police class, a senior police officer. It's supposed to be fun in that environment. You also see most of the time in the company of some of the leaders of the National Union who transport the workers. And you will ask yourself what is such a man to India. Most of the matter is that if this story has not become a battle on its neck, it didn't come from abroad. And a powerful abroad, a powerful post-Smekh FBI, has it won. We will not have heard about it simply because most of the police correspondents in the media houses, most of the judicial correspondents in the media houses are in cahoots with Mr Abba Kiari. Those times he calls them his partners. Those correspondents he calls them his partners. So those people, even if they hear or know or get any bad stories about him, they will most likely not publish, they will suppress it. But with the social media now, and then these stories coming from the FBI, the federal government is in the one area. As regards what to do with the story. Can they neglect the FBI? The answer is no. If they neglect the FBI, then most of the trainings, most of the weapons, most of the military assistants at the American nation or the American government have been given to the Nigerian police, to the Nigerian army, to the Nigerian GSA, and most of the security forces in Nigeria. That would be a must. Okay, Mr Kola Wale, we need to mention that what you're saying, the things you've been talking about, that journalist partner with Abba Kiari and that his team had gone ahead to basically take things for themselves that were for alleged criminals. These are speculation, they're not verified just to put that out there so we can be careful of the statements we make. Mr Kola Wale, moving on now, let's turn to the Daily Trust newspaper. There's a story here that says Ali Kacala, unveiling the Zanfara terror kingpin who downs the NAFJet. So this story basically, Daily Trust said they went on ground, spoke with locals, security officials as well, to unveil this guy who allegedly was responsible for downing the NAFJet. What we had seen in the news and sources from the military had said that this was a job done by bandits, but we're seeing here that the Daily Trust is pinpointing this incident to a particular man and his group, Ali Kacala. But when we look at the history of how justice system seems to work, do you foresee that there would be likely prosecution of this man or investigation at least? Well, if I get your question correctly, Mr Ali Kacala is calling for the Nigerian security forces to unveil the terrorists who might be behind the shooting down. No, no, no. I'm saying that Daily Trust is saying that the person responsible is a man called Ali Kacala, Ali Kacala actually is a traditional man. So I'm saying, do you expect that the government would begin investigation into this person? Yes, I'm asking that because we've seen videos of alleged terrorists who've come out to say that they were responsible for killing soldiers and committing atrocities, but nothing was done. The security forces never investigated that, and as much as we're doing in the public domain. So I'm asking that in this case for a fighter jet of the Nigerian Air Force to have been downed and we're seeing statements pointing to one particular person. Do you expect that there will be investigations into this matter? Of course, there has to be serious investigation. When you lose a jet, like the Nigerian Air Force has lost those things cost millions of dollars, and the life of the pilot was also put at risk. And we have said this time without number that if the Nigerian security forces had been diligent in the way and manner they have pursued Namit Karnu, in the way and manner they have pursued Igbo, they would have been able to unravel some of these egregious crimes that the terrorists or the bandits have been committing all over the place. But somehow we haven't been seeing much energy being put in that direction. Even though the activities of the bandits has more consequences or has more capacity to really destroy Nigeria as a country, as a nation. To destroy the unity that has been our lot since the time of independence. But for reasons the best known to those who manage our security they haven't been paying much attention to these areas. And the consequences is what we are saying today that the Rula Panduitry, Kobam Panduitry, have been mushrooming all over the country. Such that if care is not a game, these people, those non-state actors, will take over the affairs of the country and then begin to impose their wins and caprices on all of them. Just as they have started doing some of the territory that they now control and with their collective levies, dictated to farmers when they can go to their farm, when they cannot go, take people's wife, kill women's husbands and do all manners of things. So my take is that we need to unravel and then bring more of those who have been undermining the security of the Nigeria state to book. I usually remember this wouldn't be the first jet that has been down. There was one that was said to be lost some time ago which I doubt whether the aircraft has been piloted up to now. Like I said, it takes a lot of money and several years of training to train the pilot to be able to fly the kind of jet that we are now using. Alright, Mr. Kolawole, in the interest of time, I want you to hold on to that. For a nation that is not at war. Can you hear us clearly, Mr. Kolawole? We are men and we are losing it. Alright, Mr. Kolawole, can you hear us? Yep. Alright, brilliant. If you can in a minute, because we need to go, if you can please quickly speak on the N-A-R-D strike which should start today. The government says they're not aware of any strike notice but the doctors have decided a few days ago to down tools as from today Monday. Remember that we're still dealing with, you know, it seems like a surge in COVID-19 cases. What's your response to the doctors going on strike and the failure of government to respond to their memorandum of action? Please, louder, please, louder. Alright, I want you to speak on the N-A-R-D strike. There. N-A-R-D strike, the National Association of Resident Doctors. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. I can see that now. The story I read here is that it is the utterances of the legacy of the governor, Mr. Vavadide Shonho Lu, that has precipitated the medical people to embark on the fresh strike. Well, so fast when the man came into power, that is Mr. Shonho Lu, he has behaved like a gentleman. I'm not too sure. He would deliberately want to go out in there and start precipitating crisis in the air sector. But the truth of the matter is that each time the Nigerian state, whether at the local government level, whether at the state level, whether at the federal government level, had made promises to striking workers, to striking professionals and reached an agreement with them as to find a solution to whatever problems they may have undertaken the strike to emulate. As soon as the strikes are called off, an agreement has signed, the federal government will never go back to meet its own side or meet its own obligation or fulfill its own side of the agreement. So the workers and the professionals, they are just to call off a strike. You and I will still know that there are two people, the academic staff, you know, and also tracking that they will go back to the strike they called off not too long ago. In fact, I think some universities have already started. And this is because all the promises that were made to ASU, the federal government has not fulfilled most of them. The world they have fulfilled, they have done it in an opposite manner, such that neither the government, nor the striking academicians are able to benefit anything from what the federal government has been able to do. But the truth of the matter is like I've been telling my academic, my friends and the academics that what they have pursued in this shadow, for any Nigerian profession, whether they be medical doctors, whether they be lawyers, whether they be academicians and what have you to say that the federal government should create a no assist for any class, whether it be ASU or medical doctors, is a mirage, they are just in shadows. What all these organizations should be pursuing is good governance across the board. Without good governance, you cannot have the good university system. Without good governance, you cannot have the medical institutions that will be able to pay salaries of a self worker, allowances and provide the facilities with which they metrics, the nurses and the doctors and then the laboratory people that will work it. Without good governance and order, there will never be revenue. There will never be resources to expand our health facilities. There will never be resources to build more schools. There will never be resources to provide more infrastructure. So I will want to say with all emphasis, of these organizations they should concentrate their efforts on getting good governance for the country as a whole. So that all status, all present of our lives can be properly catered for by responsible people that we can all join us together to put in government. Look at what we have written for the papers today. All the major parties, if not all the parties in Nigeria, I want this array or the other. The one that came on board recently is now factionalized. There are two factions of the parties that are now adjusting for power. And you can see that for all the different parties all over the place. The fate of the Nigerian people doesn't lie in any of the parties that we have on grant today. All right, we would have to wrap up here Mr. Kolaoui. You can be cutting from and showing that we have good governance for all. Thank you very much to Mr. Kolaoui. We always love to hear your perspective on these issues. Thanks for joining us and for starting the week with us this Monday morning. Thank you, have a great day. All right. So we'll both be going back to the year 2019 to talk about two stories that made history in the healthcare sector and entertainment.