 So this was actually interesting. We we put up a poll a couple of weeks ago and I wanted to see where people stood on the topic and So we just basically said should marshards be allowed or taught in prison and we're gonna go ahead and bring up the results right now Just so we could take a look at it, but It's as of now as of the time of this stream It says that 40% of our viewers say yes should be allowed in prison 60% of our viewers say no and what I find really interesting about this is Normally when we put polls out the numbers will fluctuate like we'll see you know a heavy shift towards Yes, the heavy shift towards no We'll see a wild swing this never did this poll kind of started out at like 39 Yes 61% no and it only kind of wayward about two percentage three percentage points at most But I think pretty much locked here So what is your impression of just the initial poll results the need the reaction to to this question? Typically my reaction is you know Well, I mean that pretty much answers it that people feel that you know prisoners do not need to Study marshards. I guess also make some feel that martial arts they automatically feel that it's more of a deadlier not deadlier, but It's almost as a giving a prisoner a weapon. I think I have a funny feeling. That's what most people Feel that's what's going on is that it actually Increases the chances of violence and that's my gut refueling of it And I can see that I can see that being the first gut refueling like I do not want to give You know a prisoner more chances of doing violence and everything. I Mean, what do you read by the first reactions here? I'm actually a bit surprised There's actually a lot more people that said yes They expected there to be I thought it was gonna be wildly unbalanced It this actually kind of triggered the thought because I actually came across an article There's in the UK. Apparently they had prison or they had boxing programs that were in prison And the politicians came in they put a ban on it and there's been a struggle back and forth between that And the debate is raging over there whether or not they should bring that program back and that got me thinking it's like well Yeah, I mean, I mean that it's a double-edged sword but I do Believe that there's a lot of gray area and maybe that's why the poll is a little bit closer than what I expected like I thought We're gonna have like a 20% yes 80% no sort of balance But I want to read off just a couple of basic points of what some of the people that said yes, what they're what their inclinations were A lot of people said that you know people have had life improvements to the martial arts. So martial arts is definitely great for that Many people felt that yes, there should be martial arts in prison But only if it's kata or tai chi or something more on the pacific side They say yes, it's because it's life-changing and if you can change one person's life through it, then it's worth it Martial arts makes us better people and prisons are supposed to be about rehab anyway Even though the treat like a punter system martial arts is also a way to rehabilitate oneself brings balance the body mind a spirit It might even serve as Confrontation Prevention, you know a lot of people in martial arts. They learned conflict resolution. I mean we're talking about a different environment So I'm not sure how well that plays in there But then something else was really interested too is um some people were saying and I'm curious if there's any Statistics after that we can look up a lot of people commented that when martial art programs and boxy programs were allowed in prison That they saw a sharp decline in stabbings or or violence outside that this provided an outlet So I thought these were a lot of really good points and just kind of curious What are your impressions on these points like the positives like what do you think comes to mind from that? Well? My my my my thinking over the points are a lot of them are valid and actually interesting on points My my first reaction like I said is like whoa wait a minute You don't want to be should teach you people but once again There's a lot of people that go to go to prison for Methable reasons not everyone goes to prison for for violent crimes and not everyone should go to prison You know that's a whole different story with America about everyone going to prison But also too is some people go to prison because of robbery theft non-violent violent crimes and I think actually having something that gets them stimulated into a Culture or something that they didn't have before Is actually a great thing, you know if it's if it's through art music dance or even martial art because I mean You know, I'm a big proponent for that martial art can definitely change someone's life So yeah, I absolutely do believe that martial arts even teaching But the other thing too is I also Look at it the other way Which the guy was talking about that when prisons had some sort of martial art program or boxing program The stavings went down I also think it about the people that go to prison that not go because they're Because they're nonviolent and they're in with violent people and they feel threatened They feel in danger that they will lash out more more aggressively with weapons They will you know the whole we all heard the whole stereotype of first day You go to prison you find the biggest guy in the room and you beat them up So that was that but if you know how to defend yourself. I find it that you're the person that feels More comfortable because you're not as threatened knowing around Of other people around you that may be violent towards you You don't feel that you need to necessarily carry a knife, you know or a shiv in that case every place you go because you know how to handle yourself and and defend yourself Also too is You know pours to you know prisoners Against prison guards. That's a whole another story too. If they use it against let's say prison guards My question is you know, we should have you know added to it prison guards in there that they'll never be threatened because if they're If one person could threaten a prisoner's guard that I'm like, hey, we you know, we should have more prison So that that never becomes an issue This is we got a couple of interesting comments here Dan Strickland says that he thinks a lot of people have very little experience with prison and prisoners So they tend to speak from spirit stereotypes that might not represent reality and I think that's actually a great perspective I mean no matter how much you and I talk about this and we kind of contemplate the topic is We don't have the experience of being there. We don't know the environment firsthand So this is all just kind of subjective thinking and what you know Trying to look at it the the topic from all angles, but I think he's absolutely right There's a lot of people and maybe that reflected in the comments as well too that don't have the experience with the prison system It might be speaking on that gut reaction or whatever stereotypes and like you said it was pretty pretty Obvious that a lot of the assumptions were violent criminals because when you think of I mean What is the number one word that comes to your mind when you hear of convicted prisoner like what what image pops in your head? Yeah, very violent gang gang Person in a gang person that's tended to violence your standard. Yeah. Yeah. I mean we all have seen the shows, you know HBO Oz Orange is the new black so we always predict the worst of people But I mean also too is I heard once from a prison guard He mentioned the fact is the one reason that they give all the perks to prisoners that the fact is if you're in prison and You have nothing to look forward to every day then you're going to be more violent more I'm basically be more out of control versus if you have a lot of things such as art classes and Different recreational things to go to because you're going to keep you busy instead of idle hands But also too is it gives a tool for the corrections or the or the guards to take away those Things as punishment. So a little more controlling issue. I Agree with that now. We also have a comment from my wife Tracy. Hi, Tracy mentions that she says the mediation caught the aspect would I think help with emotional fortitude anger and management and respect and She said that when mediation is introduced to children school detention programs the students in school and home behavioral issues Improved in test programs and that that's actually true because the little bit of experience that I've taught again This is different than the prison system, but just teaching it in school with kids There were a lot of kids that came through that had a lot of problems So that they'd be at home or behavioral issues or whatever struggles were going on and we did see an Improvement to the March starts and it wasn't always about teaching them how to fight But I'll just get in the focus on something finding a rhythm finding a path Put that energy into you can sometimes be a benefit and we definitely saw that so maybe that is an aspect that could Play a role in the prison system as well. Oh, yeah I mean basically anything that that can connect with somebody and also to is let's also face it to a few people even people that end up in prison they're usually More type a type of people more aggressive more manly in the in the male prisons All right, even if I don't even know the female prisons even but more aggressive more type a Having an outlet where that you actually get to channel some of that actual aspect of it into Some positive reinforcement versus negative might actually be a good thing. I Absolutely agree with that and I do want to read one particular message because I thought this touched on a lot of different talking points We're gonna get into so Donald King actually responded to the poll and he said having worked in the penal system the amount of hand-to-hand Self-defense martial art training for corrections officers is in many instances Wolffully lacking in substance and availability Therefore it makes this question in the responsible one unless and only if the question is applied to better training strictly for corrections officers Why in a name of common sense would anybody want to provide? Martial training of any quality or quantity that would give its practitioner in this case an offender an obvious edge of resistance Enclosing my suggestion would be that for any well-meaning Establish instructor in any discipline to first apply for and be employed as a corrections officer But then don't be satisfied to work in the trustee dorm area But however asked to be stationed in the administrative lockdown and only then you'll experience to answer to this ridiculous question I think there is an awful lot of meat on those bones And I think many many of those points are extremely valid and worth talking about and we're definitely gonna have a chance to break down It's all that but what was just what it was your thought on that on that? overall reaction well, basically that right there is that you know, we are not training our our Our guards properly that the fact that they do not get more short training of some sort of self-defense is kind of scary and Shows a problem automatically right there Oh, yeah, I have Yeah, I definitely have to agree with that So all right, so we're gonna start breaking out some topics because there's a lot of points that brought up our viewers are bringing up points There was a lot of comments in the poll. So we're definitely going to Let's get into the meeting discussion If you are just finding this now on YouTube if you're watching this clip playback Then we're actually gonna challenge your views on the subject whether you're for or against it So we're gonna a lot to talk about so click on the link right here if you're watching this later and jump in I want to hear your comments and let's break this sucker down You