 Meanwhile, I'm going to call the meeting to order at 631. We have any additions to agenda. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Okay. I see those. Uh, review a minute mark six. 2023. I wasn't here, but I'd be willing to support those with your changes. I trusted you to make the adequate changes. Are you talking to me? All of you. In case you need another vote. Well, of course you can vote. Has anybody read to me? I confess I didn't look at those. You didn't. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I read through it. I was saying with the hair. You did. I was seconded. I did read them, but I was done. Did you take note of the medical errors, et cetera? Or potential medical errors. I didn't read them. I am. I don't know. Automatically. I would approve them. What I already liked about this is I like the honesty. Yes. We're all. Yeah. Yep. Anybody feel comfortable about making a motion to approve them. I think we did. You did. He would. He did not say he was going to. He said he could. All right. I'll make a moment. I'll second it for the second time. Very good. Who's carefully skimmed them. I will. I've carefully skimmed them myself. Right. This is all being recorded. Oh, darn. Okay. I don't have it. The minutes are approved. Public comment. Nothing. Okay. So. Why don't we do our organizational things because we're five minutes early on the conversation with the city police. Did that meet with your approval? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So. We. So. I think the motion to. Elect set partner as chair of this life board. I will suck at that motion and I believe what we've done in the past is that the senior member of the select board is not named South Gardner takes over and chairs the portion of the meeting. Exactly. I refuse myself. Yeah. So. Are there any other nominations for the position of chair of the East Montpelers life board. Seeing none. We close nominations all of those in favor of the motion to elect the vice chair of the select board. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Sir. To move things along. I would like to elect. Collette and I are as the vice chair of the select board. I think you're nominated. Nominated. Yes. Annoyed. Annoyed. Wow. Maybe night. Night. Yeah, I'll second it. Yeah, you can second. Yeah. No. Very good. Okay. All those in favor, please say hi. Hi. Congratulations. You didn't say we have any other nominees. We have any other nominees. Before we do that. Do we have any other? No. No. Okay. All those in favor, please say hi. All right. Okay. Is there anything else we need to organize here? In the prior year, it's, uh, we often need to authorize the number to sign the payroll warrants, payroll vendor warrants, but the expense warrants. So all the stuff you typically do. I don't know. Do we have any other nominees before we do that? Do we have any other nominees? No. No. Okay. All those in favor, please say hi. Okay. We have any other nominees. Is there any other nominees? All those in favor. All those that you typically do, Mr. Partner. chair, I can do it again. I moved to authorize the chair to sign all the work that we did the name. The regular payroll warrants, regular payroll, vendor warrants and special war. For standard expenditures under the town group budget. You can, them. Second. All of them. Anything else you need, Gene? There is a note that if we want to authorize an alternate, I don't know that you've done that in the past. We haven't really usually what's happened is the administrator has stepped in when it was available. Usually I follow you. Yeah, we have conversations around that. So you don't have to physically be here. If you're in Florida for a month and something has to be signed, it's okay if she decides it. Yeah. All I do is I review it. Yeah. Here's, if there are, which sometimes there are. And then, blah, blah. And we would just authorize her to do that. We could authorize her. We usually just have conversations. He doesn't. Yeah. If I sign his behalf, I know that I signed on that, but he previously. It seems to me he was. That's fun. Now it's a division. So then you, you know that she checked with you. There's, there's a balance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Usually I check with them. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't have to be a member who gives the authorization. I think a member of the cycle. Yeah. Yeah. That's been me. Right. Right. Okay. I think that'll work. Anything else? All right. I mean, I think you can do your rules and transactions later. Yes. Oh, right. Well, we got a couple minutes. There's no change. There's no change. Yeah. Prior. Right. So I moved to adopt the 2023 Select Board rules of transaction as proposed, noting that there are no changes from the previous years. Any further discussion? All the papers, please say hi. Hi. So we adopted the Select Board rules of action. So we're pretty much on time now. So the next thing on our agenda is a conversation with Monk State for weeks. I think we have someone here to talk to us about the contract potential contract renew. I guess. Thank you. My name is Bill Warner. I'm a Sergeant with State Police in Berlin. East Montpelier is in our coverage area. Regarding this specific town contract that the State Police has with East Montpelier, I apologize. I do not have a 2023 to 2024 version of the contract. Our station commander is currently out. And it's my understanding that that contract has to go through the station commander and our channels at headquarters to make sure it's all set before it goes to the town. I'll certainly assume as I can get that I move forward it to Gina Gina. Regarding just a brief summary of it's it's still current. It's up to March 31st. But this last year's essentially a town contract with East Montpelier and State Police. We have only worked 57 of the contracted 240 hours for that contract. So further we have not worked any hours between January, February and this month of 2023. So I don't know how the town wants to consider that going forward. But that certainly is a factor that we're not anywhere near the 240 hours, which obviously boils down to 20 hours per month. I'm sort of speaking on behalf of my boss who hasn't quite approved this or anything yet, but another option for the town just I'm not sure what your goals are what which you're aiming for. Another option would possibly be 120 hours or 10 hours a month. Other options would be contacting Washington County Sheriff's Department. I don't know if they do specific traffic control, what sort of calls they would handle when they were working the town contract. That's something they would they would have to speak to. But you know, essentially this contract is in terms of our, our labor agreements and our on our side of the house it's considered elective, meaning we can't order people to work it it's something that they have to work outside the normal hours of their shift. So they they're basically under under no obligation in years past, there's been much more of an interest in working it. However, right now we are, we're low staff, and we also have a lot of other over other overtime that we are ordered or also choosing to work so that we don't get ordered to play her as part of the shift coverage and other details. So that's, that's where we're at. Really, I mean, if you have any specific questions. She wouldn't have any issues, or if the town decided to go Sheriff's Department. I mean, me personally, absolutely not. You certainly have goals in mind, and things you're things you're looking for in the last thing I want to do is say, Okay, we, we have this contract for 200 hours or whatever and then a year from now, you're, we're, we're doing this again. I don't know. I would like to think our presence on the contract would improve. However, just being honest, these, these numbers this year a majority of this year, this contract here we we've also opened it up to troopers that work out of St. Because quite a few of them live somewhat near he's not familiar. And we're still at these low numbers between the two offices pretty much staffing issues. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I had, I don't know how you could point to one or two specific things but that's, that's my first, first punch. So the contract was 20 hours a month. If the 20 hours, I guess over the course of the year are not fulfilled. We're not obligated to pay the phone 20 to 40 hours. I honestly, I do we pay this team that we only pay per hour. Okay, the other question is, do we have any idea what happened in 21 22. It was the same. Now we use that contract 40 hours. And then we cut it to 20 because they weren't meeting for it. And yeah, we're like, yeah, save two bucks on our budget, because we're budgeting, we budget this amount. We don't have a 20 out of contract if it's not the feelings for a month. We just don't have to pay a match. Yeah, emergency or something. They'll come anyway and emergency. They're cruising around here anyway on a regular shift. So I was told after the town meeting, some people that they really liked it when I and some other people gave historical background to some of the issues that we're talking about. So you already mentioned that it was 40 hours and we originally started this contract. I think you and I were both on this life board when we originally started it and what we were trying to do was to get a police presence in the town on a regular basis at places that would respond to needs expressed to us by town residents. So if I think your father's box box. Yes. Yeah. So if people said hey, there's a lot of speeding going on right here in the village, then we'd say hey, can you guys on your chef's come and take out the village. We hear from people that the corner of Templeton Road and Center Road is being a lot of people blowing through stop signs will say can you go and do the Templeton farm and and hang out in the driveway there. Issue some tickets we went into it with eyes open that we would not make money off of this when when the troopers correct me if I'm wrong here but when the troopers are here at our request and they write tickets we get a portion of the fun. But we expected this to cost us money to make the town a safer place, rather than to be a revenue generator. And so that's a background that's that's why we started doing this, and I will say that because I felt good when I contact you ahead of the November closure of County Road about the possibility of getting somebody here to be at the barricades there during that three hour time on a Sunday morning. And you indicated to me that you weren't able to find anybody who wanted to do that so you were going to come and do it yourself as I recall. And I don't know what sacrifices you've made in your life what where else you might have wanted to be on a Sunday morning. I'm glad that we had this this contract with the state police so we can reach out with some expectation that you do that. So, we're always in the camp for 20 hours. No, I think that. So, because we won't have to work on horse anyway. It might be smart for us to look into it at all. Like, Washington shares department, and maybe I will do it on a little more regular basis. I'm not trying to be insulting you, but you know, you haven't worked that much. And so I think, you know, the townspeople probably would appreciate the fact that if we reached out to some other entity would give us a little bit better coverage. I mean, we know the state police are going to be there when we need them, if we call as best they can. But we should probably look at our options. We'll just be in touch when I look at it with everyone's thought process. Yes, and I have a hypothetical about that. Do you see any special challenges if for some reason we decided to have a contract with both the sheriff and the state police. Okay. I think the town, when I spoke Washington County dealt with something going on at the elementary school and when I spoke with someone with the Washington County Sheriff's office. He mentioned that like town of Waterbury had recently done that they have both. And because you could leverage using both for the hours and it made sense because both of them combined could kind of provide enough of a presence for the town was seeking where one individually could not. Right. So I have had that in my pocket and I told Washington County I would reach back out that wanted to have this conversation with the select board this evening. I think that's something we should keep as an option to potentially have both that maybe have an hour structure that could work for both that likely would fit in our budget. Yeah, I was just thinking about the budget. We could look at the contracts to get them where we know we were within our budget, of course, but that way we could have hours that may be more realistic for both law enforcement agencies. The only problem is kind of hit or miss. So, you know, they do it on a voluntary basis basically. I mean, we have the contract but you know the contract is really like, it's not a contract that binds you to do it. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah, so that's the thing I'm not crazy about with this situation is it's so hit or miss. It's like, well, they didn't work for three months or they got zero hours in. Well, I mean, can we get a contract with someone that says they don't give us this many hours. I doubt you're going to be able to do that. We can do that. Well, I think that every police department I, I'm aware of it. They're sure handed. And if you can get, if you like you, like you said, it's a great, it's a great optimal. Why don't we look at both ways. Yeah, I like both ways, but yeah, it's just that the voluntary aspect of this contract isn't guaranteeing that. So that's what makes me pause and think about the options. Could, could you speak to any differences that there are between pro upstate police troopers and the sheriff deputies that would be serving us my contract with them in terms of training law enforcement powers. The sorts of incidents that they would or could intervene in. Without without knowing who or what, you know, which deputy and I'm not too familiar with Washington County Sheriff's Office and I've had nothing but good dealings with them, of course, but there's I can't think of any off of the top of my head. There are different levels of law enforcement certifications in Vermont. It would more than likely be someone someone off patrol would be a level two or a level three officer, and those are varying degrees of the type of cases you can. I don't want to say price. Yeah, like, you know, your major felonies and stuff like that, you have to be a level three officer. Most misdemeanors would be level to level one probably wouldn't be trolling or anything proactively. But, and I think most of your. I think a lot of that would also be identified in whatever agreement you would have with the sheriff's department or, you know, or your deputy is going to be, yeah, what's their, what's their functions going to be are they going to. Is it going to be traffic enforcement is it going to be service calls is it going to be both. They do transporting tunes you don't make the transport officer might be in level one to post a little two or three. But more than likely you would want to have for Friday you want to but you thought you're going to have more you have an issue where you have a lot of abuse going on and issues with families and stuff like that you might have a level three or somebody. Well, you don't really know what's going to happen. No, I know that's why so I think a lot of places that level twos that work fine. And a lot of times, also, like, you'll see, say if someone's not certified to investigate or be the primary officer for a higher level call. Okay, they'll, they'll, they'll do it again to secure things until someone else does. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think that I think we should just look at our options now. And then we'll just get in touch. Maybe you could also talk to talk to very talented to like that. We'll look at our options and see what we can do. But we'll get you, you know, we'll see what we can do. Thanks, but thank you for coming in. Appreciate it. You want to stay for the rest of the. You know, And I've said a lot where we're anticipating a rough run. And I'll be at your request. Just, just to refresh my memory. Okay, this. The current contract expires on April 1. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yep. So I thought we don't have a video. We haven't had a three months. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. I think we have to be given the next item, which is considerate. Member random of understanding for both radio. Community. System. Thank you for coming in. Yeah. I read the minutes from the last time you looked at this and there were some questions I thought I could come in and help you. Yeah. I'm Toby Talbot deputy chief and president. Of the board of directors and fire department. So. Capital fire mutual aid in municipal corporation that has joined together in 1970 to bring the towns together. And their respective fire departments as, as delegates. To set up mutual age systems between each other. Yeah. So essentially in 1970 East Montpelier joined this, but at that point. The fire department was not a town department. It was a private organization and it still is. Yeah. So there is some confusion in the language because it says the town and its fire department, which essentially. If you look at it legally, it means if you don't have a fire department, then you have to have some other way to deal with us. You're still the town. And so in the end system, we have been acting as your delegate, even though. By the bylaws and the association language is not directly. Us that are your fire department delegate, but we've been acting as it because that's the way it was sort of adopted back in the 70s. So. Officially. What would have to happen is so this memo, memorandum of understanding about putting a capital fund together for future purpose. You are the member of capital mutual aid right now. Right. If you, so you would sign the document as the member, because we are not your quote unquote respective fire department. The only other way to deal with it is that if you decide officially to delegate East Montpelier fire as your membership. Delegate. Right. If you do that, then everything happens only through us and not through having you guys do anything in the future. So. Yeah, so I guess we raise this question at the last meeting that Albert was here for and thank you for coming in to help answer these questions, but I don't see anything in what you provided that really shows that it's a town of East Montpelier and it's a member. Is there any documentation that it's a town rather than East Montpelier fire department to incorporate it, but it's joined in 1970. Well, if you read the articles of association from capital fire signed in 1970, it says the town and its respective fire department. It doesn't say a private fire department. So where are you reading. So if you read in the capital fire mutual aid system articles of association. Okay. If you read. So if you read under article five, the membership of the system shall consist of remote municipalities and it lifts the towns. Well, he created. And private organization signatory. Right. So the fire department was not signatory to this. Well, the town signatory to it. It was. Do we have any documentary evidence of it? If you, I can't tell you that that was 1970 and I can't tell you what I'm assuming it was. There's nothing here that it said it's not Peeler. That's the name of the town and the fire department. So the way I read it is completely ambivalent is whether it was the town or the fire department that's going. And we've been funding capital West through the fire department budget. The fire department that they do. Well, and if you guys are fine with us signing new documents, that's fine. We just say I'm bringing it to you because that's my understanding of you are the member and what I understand. And you're acting as our agent. We don't, we don't have a fire department. No, but they're acting as Asian, the town, because supposedly the town's one that signed the contract. I don't see that. Okay. Right. So. For part of mutual aid. I'm not sure the town. I don't know. They don't have a fire department. What's the fire department always. Private. Yeah. So you don't know who signed it. We don't know. Well, we know that the fire. Well, we don't know. Yeah. But what is, okay. So what are we committing to anyway? So again, so there was some question about what the project. Yeah. Okay. So right now. Capital fire mutual aid runs the dispatch center. Yes. They own towers and broadcasting tower throughout the year. So they are currently getting a grant from the state of Vermont for $2.5 million to upgrade the system. So it's a better system. So all these equipment that they're upgrading now. This is a capital plan in 10 years. To replace that equipment that they put in place now. So this is literally. An agreement that says we will participate in putting capital funds away for this project 10 years from now. That's what the project is. Yeah. And I sent you this spreadsheet. You can see that it's distributed between all the towns that are parties. It's a 10 year plan. East Montpelier fires. Portion is $54,000. $54. Something thousand dollars. So it's $5,000 a year. Commitment. And as, as I mentioned to set, we did update our capital plan. And we actually included the $5,000 a year into the capital plan. So essentially. There'll be no tax. In fact, East Montpelier voters. Because our capital funds are paid for by our revenue. Yeah. So we won't, you know, we're not asking you to pay for this. Upgrade the 10 year funding. Yeah. So I guess this is, so the question is, if you agree to that and you think that's great, we do. We think, you know, improving that and putting the money inside for the future is great. Somebody has to sign it, whether it's you or us. And if you're comfortable with us signing it, we'll sign it and we'll, and that's fine. Or if you want to sign it yourselves, either, either way works. Capital fires. Capital fires. Capital fires. Capital fires. Capital fires. Capital fires. Capital fires. Capital fires. Capital fires. Like the capital fire is not going to. Yeah. Look at either. You should sign one of these kind of thing. That's fine. And we're good. And I don't have anything against us shiny, but it seems like there's going to be some resistance on. Among some people for the town, sorry. Now, there's some confusion about who's the member. Right. Um, that's fine. And I guess the only thing is, I'm glad I did it anyways. So if you if it's your opinion that the fire. Fire Department is the member of Capitol West because we are a representative and the delegate. If you guys can make a motion that says we the town of East Montpelier, believe that the fire department is the member of capital fire mutual aid that essentially covers the future then it's right we become we become the party that then is responsible for all these interactions with capital. But doesn't that make sense. Right. Yeah, I don't want to make a motion as a determination as a binding based on no evidence. Why don't we know why do we have to even go there when we just authorize them to sign. I think that we are that the extent that we are authorized to delegate any authority with respect to capital west to the East Montpelier fire department I move to authorize them to conduct capital west business, or to act as a member of capital and report back. And report back. Thank you. You told me. Okay, but are you saying just on this single item or are you saying forward. No. Yeah, I think that's what we should do. Nice second. Yeah. Could you read that back. Did you capture that. No, I'm sorry. It's not surprising. To the extent that the town of East Montpelier is authorized to delegate authority to the East Montpelier fire department to act as a member of capital west. I think we should get the whole name the capital fire mutual aid system. We can't just say we're delegating the authority to sign that. No, that implies that we have a we don't know that we have it. We delegate that authority. I'll make it. You can make sure. You can. That's one of the things. Oh, okay. You can. You can do whatever and don't make up shit. Okay. Okay. The town of East Montpelier is authorized to delegate authority to the East Montpelier fire department to act as a member of capital west. We delegate that authority. Excellent. Tell me. Make a moment. He did. Oh, you did. Oh, the favor, please. Hi. Yeah, I just appeared to have it. I do have it. Right. So I'll just need you to get a copy of minutes to show this. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for doing the work. Thank you for coming in and being so, and being so clear. And I hope that really improves. It's important. It is. I hope it really improved your communications. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. So. You know, I think we're supposed to do so. They're tying all the hours together right now. They have to walk to one hour and then another. And then another, in order to reach the holes, this is going to synchronize everything. All together. So essentially one. Will go out instead of two or three. And so clean up the airways for us and also help us. Yeah. So it's going to be, you know, a great improvement in our system. but he certainly didn't try. Well, I did a lot of research, too, to just find out exactly what the real language was, because I heard there was legal issues and concerns about what the document said. Yeah, it was really great. Who's really close to signing the document? So now I'm going to sign it. OK. Thank you, Joseph. Talk to you soon. Bye. Thank you. My next one, then we're on time, is considerate your resolution to hold special town meeting for the Lod Albert article. Oh, so everyone has read the resolution last time. And we need to pass that. I'll make a motion to pass the resolution for the special town meeting. Yeah. Are you able to look at the vote of the Lod Albert library, 26,000? So people will probably lose. So and either of this resolution is written in the select board memo, and I think just for the sake of the public, we should probably read it aloud. You want to read aloud? Legal voters. No, this is all. It begins resolved at the emission of article five from the printed Australian ballot by March 7, 2023. It's in the actual select board. It's on page 111. You want me to read? Yeah. Resolved at the emission of article five from the printed Australian ballot by March 7, 2023, annual town meeting with a result of an oversight, not on lawful notice or warning, or non-compliance within the scope of the warning. And therefore, all of the business taken at the annual town meeting shall be deemed valid in accordance with the 17VSA 2662. I would like to have Scott's motion. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I now have you in the middle of the way. I'm going to go to the top of the call. Do we have a second? I did. Oh, you're in the second? Yeah. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. OK, so that's passed. And then we have documents for a select board review and approval to proceed with scheduling the special election. So would this be the time to talk about the notice with the voters' special town meeting? Yes. Yeah. OK. So I have a couple of comments on this. One is just a pick a uni thing with punctuation under voter registration. I believe same-day registration should have a hyphen between same and day. And so who am I directing this to? Who's going to be revising this, Rosie? OK. Are you OK with that, Rosie? I can't hear you. Yes. Yeah, OK. And then finally, under right near the bottom, on election day 0.3, if sick or disabled, I don't think we want disabled or sick justices of the piece going out. So I would amend that to say if you are sick or disabled. How about if I say if a voter is sick or disabled? Well, everything else is you. Number one says you pick up a ballot. Number two says you can vote. So I was just trying to make it consistent with both the other language. OK. What page is that on? It's only one page. It's not. It looks like it's only one page. Only the round. OK. Right there. I think they make it. Thank you. Anything they get out? No. Other than that, everything looks fine to me. So we've got to set the election for the town of Fort. It would be the second April. So I think on April 17th and then the actual election would be on April 25th. Yeah. So what do we need in a motion? You don't know. You really the resolution is really the motion. I think as long as you are OK with these dates. Yeah. I don't know that we necessarily need a motion for that. You all will be signing the document article warning. OK. Yeah. The chair has. Yeah. And this is where we may be able to state police some of those hours to keep the crowds away. Yeah. Well, eventually. Or just control. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Who wants to cross? He won't be able to. We'll have to call them, especially because they will just have to hold a preview. Yeah. Preview to get people. Oh, that's right. Yeah, it's going to be a crazy election for a lot of people. OK. So I think that's it with the item agenda. I. Call a public article done done. So the next thing our agenda is Murray, Bliss, Barnes, Rowe, Ashby, Mange, and Project. Consideration of contractor bid results. So I think we have those. All and Jeff. With that. All and Jeff. Oh, yeah. Well, we got to look at the bids. We have the bids. Yeah. The bit of a rage. Yeah. As I already said, that's a call about it. Well, that was not too far off. Pickle and that's awesome. That was great. I thought I was usually lost. They've been doing it for us pretty much. It's possible. They have. They are not. They've done it too well. Yeah. It's how we know what it really costs. You saw the bids. Yeah, they saw the bids. I don't have any. Yeah, Jeff. Yeah. The Jeff or Paul, do you want to prevent your thoughts on the bid? You want to give it a try? I think I could perhaps get started. We received the four bids. Of course, last year we had used Fox Fire, Nate Eber to do the work on North Street and Sparrow Farm Road. Not too surprisingly, they bid quite a bit higher this year, the $41,500. We're looking at this project as being similar in scope to last year's project in terms of the number of trees and the distribution of sizes, roughly 200 trees. Matt Foster is the low bid at $28,800. That's actually $900 less than we paid last year for the work on North Street. Paul was checking with the references, and I guess he can speak to that. But on the surface of it appears that Matt would be a qualified bidder. He does work for Washington Electric Co-op, and he's actually working over on Bliss Road on a private project right now. So Paul, if you want to pick up on the references that you checked. Sure. I did check up on one of the references from Matt, and it was a local person here in town. And I got in touch with them, and they were pleased. They said they worked timely fashion, kept them in the loop every day in terms of where they were at. And it wasn't a roadside project, but it was trees that had grown up into a view. So they were quite pleased. And I've been trying to get Washington Electric. I can't seem to get a call back yet. Of course, I didn't have the information till the other day either. So mostly been a weekend since then. So I probably will hear. But at this point, they've worked with, Matt's worked with them for years, I guess now. So if they were a significant problem, I think that might not be happening all the time as a regular line clearing crew and stuff. So I think we're probably in pretty good stead if we try to help Matt and see how it works. We did meet with his son over there on Bliss Road. And very likable. It seems to be very reasonable to get along with and stuff. So that's who we like that. OK, we've got a comment. Just a quick question. The two highest bidders, there's no time constraint for this job. In other words, the two highest bidders, the $41,000, says they're going to do that 15 days. And then the $55,000, they're going to do it in 20 days. The lower bidder is 134 days. Is there any issue with when this is started and completed? Yes, there is. We're working with what is the life cycle of the insect. Does that two weeks make a difference? That's why there's a bid different. Maybe that's why some are higher. If they're going to bring more of a crew in. I think if we can award the contract reasonably soon, we'll be in good shape. The work has to be completed by June 2. So we have a couple of months. So the 35, assuming he starts reasonably soon, he should be able to complete the project. Is it gas anymore? I thought that maybe that's why there's a difference in the bids, because they were just. It's just a huge gas. When these guys bid on these jobs, that's why you have to start from any day. It's like 15 days, 20 days, 25 days. OK, that's fine. Just say it, I'll go back in. They know roughly what they can do in a day. But what you're also up against is, look at all the trees that have gone down in the last three months. And so they've got that, plus all the stuff that would normally come up. And so that that may be one of the factors that's driving these other things up. I don't want for a little bit. Jeff, you said that you were not surprised that Fox Fire bid more this year than they did last year for a job that was about the same level of effort. Could you elaborate on that? Sure, I'm just Paul and I had talked about a little bit. One of the big costs for these logging jobs is the cost of diesel fuel. And between that and normal inflation, we're kind of surprised that we actually got a bid that was lower than the award that we provided last year for Fox Fire. It's obviously a substantial increase in terms of what Nate did compared to what he did last year. And that surprises me a little bit. I wouldn't have thought that the cost would have gone up that much. But on the other hand, we have a bid that's fairly low. And the Randy Pickle bid is fairly close. So we have two low bids that are sort of in the same range of cost. So I'm not quite as worried about Matt going bankrupt in the middle of this project. So I think it's a good bid. Yes, OK. And for the record, could you just give us your evaluation of Fox Fire bid on the job last year? I think Paul and I were very pleased about the work that Nate did last year. And I think from Reading Front Porch Forum, I think the community or private jobs that he's done in this area seem very pleased with him as well. That was a satisfying question, also. Thank you. Yes, there's another thing which I'm not surprised by is that prices on all this stuff are going to go up. If you talk to the people, I've talked to the folks down there in Williamstown Mass and stuff like this. And they've had this going longer than we have by long shot. But they're finding that their prices have gone up many fold year to year. Because first of all, there's probably more trees per operator that need to come down in the course of a year. And so you probably inflate your price a little bit. For that reason, purely aside from all the costs which have gone up. So in that case, both of our little bids were people that we had never bid before. We haven't had any experience with. So that may be an issue. One more comment I'm going to spend I'd like to make a motion to accept not foster logging and tree service to hire them. That's my comment. Good. I like efficient meetings. We need a second. Second. Can I add in the discussion? Go ahead. The cost of tree services is a little better, right? Yes. Yes. Yeah. But it seems like he's reputable. And I think the time has gone. I just want to note that. No, no. Yeah, that's good. So we have a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. The ayes fear to have it, they do have it. So you've got a contract. If I could just make one comment. Just to give a little background. Of course, this would be the fourth project that we've done over four years. We're quite a bit ahead of other municipalities on this in terms of some aggressive removal of ash trees. And so so far we've totaled about a quarter of the inventory of ash trees that we've done on town roads back five years ago or whatever when we did our inventory. This project will bring us up to about a third of the trees completed, which I think is something we could be proud of. And I would also, if you recall, we have a five year plan for the ash tree removal. And part of that plan is to do some planting of trees. So we're not just removing trees. And we may look to planting some additional maple trees. We planted some at the rec field last year. And it might be nice to plant two or three more trees there. Nice. Just like to note that it's thanks, Chief Leader. Thank you for your hard work and attention to this. Yeah, thank you very much. It's a big deal. So thank you very much. We need you. Yeah. Yeah, thank you very much. And you are. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much. That's going to catch up with us before we get done. OK. OK. So I think we're going to move off the ash tree project and move to the town treasury port. And I don't think the treasurer is here to present the report. Is there something you want to draw our attention to again? No, it's nothing over the fire. Nothing overly exciting. Is there anything exciting at all? The town treasury port. How about the transition to Northfield? David, how many? We are working on getting everything set up in Northfield. And in fact, he was here today. So I'm not sure when we will officially make the transition with Michelle working through that with Northfield. Right now, we're trying to get our online access up and all that kind of stuff. But it doesn't work. Yeah. Do we need authorization from the select board to investigate investing our funds? Or had I had to go up before I was a select board person to purchase CDs, to buy treasuries, to do that. Is that something that we can just investigate and report back? I would need to look at the investment policy. Yes. Because I've had not heard. OK. Yes. And we'll go up there to that. We've pretty much just done CDs. Yeah, historically, yeah. Historically, that's what I'm doing. I don't know. OK. Just. Yes. Please. Please. OK. But just, I mean, we've got a question from a new select board member. I want to make sure he's gotten the answer to it. Right. We're going to look into the investment policy. Yeah. Right. I mean, just add the select board member. You don't need an authorization to go out and gather information on anything. We're going to be using town resources, like asking Gina to do a lot of work for you, and then probably going to check in with others. We'll see what the policy is. Yeah. Yeah, a huge policy. And then it would be also a discussion with Morfield. Just, you know, as we would with town funds, we're going to something safe and secure and, you know. No, no, that's why I'm going to talk to you. Yeah, but. The conversation with them. I know you do. Of course. Yeah. Do. Okay. So nothing else on the town treasury report to. Yeah. Okay. Okay. What's wrong now? Absolutely nothing. Oh, I thought maybe your picture was a bit of a failure. There's a shine on the title. Okay. So town treasury report is done. We did the select board organization. We did the rules of transaction. The next thing we are going to do is. A 2023 town meeting review. Review minutes from town meeting. I believe. I had some things to say about those. I picked up on that. The beginning of the meeting. You've mentioned a few things. Yeah. You know, Rosie, are you with us? I believe we're directing our comments to Rosie. There she is. Hi. Thank you for the detailed minutes. I just have a few. Comment. Bottom of page one. Final paragraphs. I believe that. That's recognized and thanked. Thank you. I believe that. That's recognized and thanked both select board members who are stepping down. And I think you could just rephrase that. Amy Willis and Judith Dylan. Our select board members stepping down. And. They were thanks for their service. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. And. Then when you're ready. Also. I'll get page four, article 11. You spilled Ella Chapin correctly later on, but here it's built with two L's. Bella has only filled with one. Okay. And then article 16. I've never heard of a representative. I've never heard of a representative. Being called honorable in our state system. I'm sure. I know Ella. She's a very honorable person, but I don't think we need that title. And I think it would just help to say. Ella Chapman. New Chuck Chapin. Sorry. Ella Chapin new house representative. Rather than legislative representative house with a big. Capital H. Yeah. Is there anything else called. That was it. Nope. Thank you. Did we want to say our new house representative? That would, that would be even better. Yeah. Thanks. Because she's new, but she's our soul. Right. You know. Anybody have any other comment on. Rosie's meeting. Rosie's. Minutes for coming. It was interesting about the sugar house. If you don't mean you didn't need a permit for that. That's what I was thinking when I was saying that. I know. He did talk about it. Yeah. Anything else. Just a house none. Only if it's constructive on. Or jokes. Yeah. Do you want to approve these minutes. Now with the changes made. Yes. Please. Okay. Make a motion to. Except. You're all done. With changing. Oh yeah. He's doing some other paperwork. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. All of the family. Just a quick guide for two seconds. Did you hear Kevin Ellis, but he was on WBB that fall on Wednesday. The first 15 minutes he talked about our. Town meeting gave praises. Yeah. And praises to your performance. And the select and the, and the town town meeting and how it's signing whatever. And he wasn't sure about the Kellogg. He was. I was on the. Library vote. Right. So I called up and I clarified. Oh, good. Oh, good. Good. Thank you. But he is very, very, very, very. I heard him. He was. I know. Were you there? Oh no. He was trying to stay. Not to get divorced. He was gone. Yeah. Yeah. high-waive financial plan. So I'm giving you a draft of this review. Yeah. I'm actually meeting with our V-TRANS representative Michelle Redmond on Thursday to just go over this process and the entirety in addition to the process for if we want to move forward with the repaying of Townhill Road and submitting a grant request to hopefully get some funds to offset town costs for that. I see that Guthrie is on so I don't know if you want Guthrie to speak to this form in particular only ask for major projects. So in prior a couple years that was County Road on this right. Is there a good chance we would get a grant? Is there? I'm not sure. Well we probably don't we already got one for County Road recently. East Montpellier usually gets a lot of paving grants but they don't give them like every year. Okay. It's hard to say because it's lack since County Road was supposed to be before it happened. Hard to say but it doesn't hurt to always apply. Yeah. So I'm really just giving this to you. It's kind of a preview. I'll bring you the final burden. I want to meet with her first for analyzing this particular document. Plus you can just give me an idea. I would know at that time still whether we would get a grant but I would at least be able to let you know that I have applied for one at that time. So I just really wanted to provide this to you and then now for as a draft and then if you had any comments to please share. Yeah. I don't quite get the numbers actually. They're basically pulling from well the numbers up top it's actually your calculations that are done by the state. Okay. Funds we've received for our roads. Okay. The numbers down below are essentially our highway budget broken down for winter and non-winter. It's just that's just the maintenance. So the repaving County Road looks like a real big figure. So that quote is from Pike. The next page you have after this document is a quote from Pike Industries. That is the number from Pike. Obviously if we do this we would go over an RFP process which is what I wrote in the Select Board memo. So this is a number we've initially received. Okay. It's new. Fairly new. Guthrie didn't share any feedback. Is that just shim and overlay Guthrie? So that is actually you hear me okay? Yeah. Okay. The actually milling off so planing it down flat first and then crack sealing anything they can see for cracks and then putting a top coat back on it and doing the shoulders afterwards. What's the advantage to milling it off? That you're starting with a flat surface. You're not starting with a scalloped four ruts in the road. It might not look it to the passerby. That road is actually hard to open the outside wheel tracks right now just because it'll the water will run. It'll run all the way from the height of land down past Hawkins Farm in the wheel tracks. It won't melt out in between the wheel tracks. The yellow line will stay white and in between the wheel tracks will. So they're just milling it to make it flat? Yes. But what's the advantage to that? Well, why can't you just fill in the wheel tracks? It's cheaper probably to mill it than it is to buy it. What it is is you're still don't you're not going to get it flat shimming it because your compaction rate you're still going to have a scallop there after you're done compacting it. Oh really? Yeah. It'll be smaller a lot smaller but you'll still have it. So milling is a better way to get rid of the running. Yeah and you've got a really good base on it. I can go back and look at the history. I think that was originally laid down with three inches of base and two inches of top and the top that wear surface the two inches is worn through in multiple spots actually. Well last time we did we just shimmed and overlayed. I don't know how many. Yeah I was gonna say according to the capital budget it's at least two or three years beyond I think is what we had looked at. Oh yeah yeah it was the first road we did. So that would be like I think that probably put you somewhere around 13 years is my guess since it's been overlaid. It was the first road we did when I got it. But anyway that's only going 300 feet past Brazier-Gallison Hill intersection that's leaving the Montpelier end because it's not near as bad as the rest of it and Gallison Hill is actually in really good shape still. Which those years get done the same. There's one spot beyond Brazier where the edge is chipped off and that's why I really want to get out beyond that 300 feet beyond it pretty much puts you to the speed limit sign if you know where that is. I think we did two stages last time we didn't do the whole thing. Yeah that's how it's broke up in the capital budget. What happens to those milling? They go back to get recycled. They take them. Yep they do not give you anything for them. That's too bad that's good material. It is yeah and that's why they recycle it. Most of the asphalt now is there's certain percentage that's recycled anyway. Okay no I don't even know if you can get virgin asphalt anymore that's actual first time use material 100 percent. Yeah okay I'm good. Does anybody have a question? And back to what what Gina was saying there. I don't know if we actually did get a paving grant for the second half of County Road which technically would have been a physical year beyond the first one so I think we skipped a year. All right but we only got it. Always good to apply. The other thing that's out there right now the League of Cities and Towns is questioning the state a little bit at the state level where they left 13 million dollars worth of class 2 paving on the budget so they're kind of wondering how anyone got turned down. Right. Oh no kidding. Yeah so meanwhile the state themselves it sounds like they went way over budget on their end of the thing so. Just about every job was at least 50 percent over budget they said and behind. Yeah. Now the other thing is I don't know I didn't look at the cubic yard price is it down because oil is down a lot right now. So that's not really a quote technically that is a budget number so and that's all on a sliding scale if they gave you a number today it would be different in two weeks. Sorry and it's that's the way it goes with the state I mean that's they give you the closest number they can and it's on a sliding scale so last year it was changing week by week. Oh I know it was terrible last year but this year is a lot better right now. Yeah so if if things hold out they should be in theory it should be the same more better than what they have quoted you. Okay. All right. And that's also I don't know if it's in there but it's overlaying that end of Cherry Tree Hill that's always full of big holes. Oh that needs a bad. Yep so that'll get covered over and then Deerfield Lane the new one the new development below Connors. Yes that's going to get an apron on it that'll be I can't remember if it was 15 or 20 feet long so it'll be an actual apron for a private drive. Yeah and the ones down below that that are breaking out into the travel lane now we're going to extend those just a little bit more. Yeah it'd be nice to get rid of that gully that keeps happening by the pavement around the corner of Cherry Tree there. Yes. It's like man. Yeah if you come around there with a trailer behind you you'll see how that happens. Yeah I know it tracks into the off the road. Yeah you can be completely over the yellow line even a short truck with a short trailer to still be falling off the edge of the black top. Yeah it's bad right here. Yeah okay well I don't want to bore everybody with more details so anybody have any questions for Guffin? I'm sorry. So just in terms of the are we on the town road in Bridgestead or the networking when you're burying? Now yes. Okay so we're done with the annual highway funding. You'll see them again next week. Yeah yeah okay the next item consideration annual certification of compliance for town road in Bridgestead or the network in So I am wondering could you help me hear Gina with the second paragraph we I have never heard anything to the contrary that are adopted standards meet or exceed the minimum standards included in the June 2019 state approved template so that that seems like a no-brainer to check do however you have in the select board memo said that previous town administrator Johnson noted in the blackboard annotated agenda from March of last year that the network inventory may be due to be updated and so if we have that information can we in good conscience certify that we do have an up-to-date highway network inventory should we just check off do not at this point since we don't know and if we do that what sort of implications does it have implications for our funding? Guffin do you know what he didn't indicate that this was anything urgent and I'm not I know that I update well you I'm not the I'm not sure what it means about that highway network inventory these are one of the questions I have with Michelle Redmond but I know all the hydraulically connected roads we update their system so yeah I'm not sure that we're that out of date I think we are updating as we go I the way I read his last note and again this is the point of me looking into some of this I'm not sure what if this is just them doing a formal audit of it but we are regularly updating as we perform work on our roads that's what I'm hearing from regional planning that they're much like they've done in the past I think right when I started we did one erosion inventory and that sounds like we're due to have another one which will be through them also which it's we're supposed to be keeping up with it now as we repair things we're able to go in and say yep we meet as we work on things okay I think this is more of a formal review yeah anytime he does work there's a there's a whole state system and we have to update and for example for the most recent grant that we did for the culvert work that he did in order for us to even get our grant reimbursement we have to make sure that we update those road segments on that system so I actually did meet with someone from VTrans to go over that process so I think this is more of a of an overall formal review so I don't know that we would want to say that we are not yeah because I think we are as updated as we can be on our own very good okay thank you okay so do we need a motion to adopt that what do we need to sign it for you to sign I well it's for you to sign honestly that's what if you didn't this is duly authorized administrator maybe that's you you're an admission last year Bruce Bruce like to type his own forms yeah I've actually state form here okay I'm not to recreate a lot of things it's fake it's me a form I use their form yeah he typed a separate form in word that you've all did sign that's like word did sign well there's five lines so yeah so I think the intent is that the select word signs is talking all right so I think we just signed it so I can sign it here and pass it around Jeff there's already four of us that don't sign twice all right oh very good cut your quick well I'm so glad you're with us that's why I'm here he's a numbers guy oh so let's move to the next item oh do you want do we have to go on potential executive session I don't think so I think that I I put that there I don't believe that would be there in probably if you were speaking with someone that wanted to go into but I don't I don't see any okay I have to say or that's never been done I was in any way confident okay um we don't have any any time when we have more than one person going for one position yeah yeah that's how they are my thing um thank you so with this um well I mean I kind of don't like everything in select word memo but um the biggest thing I wanted to discuss is the select word that particular open position has been noticed on the town website in front of the forum there is one person that has expressed interest in joining the select word so my question for the select board is when would you like to speak no one else has come forward with the exception of this one individual so what would you like to speak with that person to potentially appoint someone into the vacant seat on the select one when's that next meeting April 3rd oh I'm not gonna be here ah you're gonna zoom in I think I can okay it's difficult yeah so we miss you well you don't have to say that so I would like to do this after this meeting tonight put something on the website put something on four courts forum that says hey we have all these open positions yeah um and then in that communication I would list the select board position yeah but then state at what meeting the select board right the speaking so please get me if anyone else is out there contemplating it they would know the dates that are too soon I mean this is the 20th month yeah I think you should give them a month I think you should give them a month yeah yeah but I know it'll be the 17th right yeah let's go with that yeah if anybody's going to be joining the select board they should you know have an experience of you in person before they say yes to that yeah but you know well I'm a chameleon I can just wear one of the state roses uh another one can come out when they but you don't know what's one the real one yes it's no okay is that good for you oh that's fine for me 17 would you want to target the 17 or all of these are good positions for anyone and we could consider anyone at that because then I could use that name for all of the yeah yeah that's so I mean all of us we don't have any three people that's right now there are two those are the only three people but yeah I would I mean I think it's important we have the emergency planning committee that's it's going to be a newly formed committee that ideally would like to get that up and running as well so I don't know if you have a chance to read the state statute on filling empty positions and the timing of that uh we discussed that uh year two ago in connection with one position yeah at the time and basically I believe that wording of that was pretty great it gave us a lot of wiggle leeway yes yeah the the ones you have to be a little more particular with are the elected positions i.e. the select board which is why I got that notice out when I did that you do have 10 days after the town meeting and here is a vacancy there to have at least a notice of that vacancy exist right now it does apply to the appointed positions it's very different than the elected I was not sufficiently clear I was speaking about the the rules for appointing someone yeah two an elected position oh okay yeah oh yeah once the notice it's the notice that needs to go out there and then you have flexibility from there that's why I wanted to get the notice out correct so a lot of people know so thank you for covering that legal base and there is some encouragement in the law to move with all deliberate hate but it's not like we have some that deadline to meet yeah well I think it's appropriate to give people time to do that short yeah so why I kind of like that it's out there now this will be another reminder so again anyone that's out there contemplating can we can always draw off the planning commission too for another member I think we have that flexibility for the DRV I think there's three members right now the planning commission on the DRV I can't remember how we set that up but I think that you could draw off planning commission if you had which actually pretty appropriate oh yeah yeah because if you just take a somebody off the street to go on a DRV it takes a long time to get up to speed so if we're going to say that we're going to consider the applications at the 17th of April meeting when do you need to have them Gina to be able to process them and get them ready for that meeting um I would probably say either Wednesday or Thursday before that meeting was cool yeah that's great thank you so like the talk yeah so we'd be looking for a lot of interest in some background information yeah okay so the next item on the agenda this is an appointment item it's always on your agenda discussion on time the infant might have COVID-19 one comment about appointments so there is a list of proposed appointments that I would need you to approve this evening so there is a long list of proposed appointments that need to occur now one most importantly being Town Tree Warden is on that list but we have First Constable, Second Health Officer, the Health Officer, the Town Service Officer, and the Control Officer, Assistant Ambo all of these are appointed in March so we have all of the March appointments so we do have a long list of those appointments so but those are all ready to be appointed these are correct yes and the only changes that we have from priori or everyone else in their position First Constable technically is he was elected as of now that position that he was appointed so um John Wichey is our First Constable was elected so he's on down the list to be appointed in that position the Cemetery of Sexton is actually going to be John Wichey with the Assistant now and Assistant Cemetery Sexton which of Elliot Morse who was previously the Cemetery Sexton Recreation Board does have three new members and you do have letters of interest included in your documentation for the meetings with those individuals and then the Town Garage Facility Improvement Committee T.A. Jenkins it was on the list to be appointed to that if I heard to that okay now we did make a change about a year ago we now have an animal control officer and a second animal control officer oh is it a second okay I'll change that thank you well we just have one vote in a point yeah yeah usually in the past you have the list yes and then there's a motion to a point as presented would be accepted down the document to retitle um Amber Perry as the second animal control officer but we had a last year yeah yeah maybe just didn't get reflected in the document yeah okay so Luke okay and I will recuse myself oh wait I'm on here too important for yourself all of you we're all we're all on here when the money okay never mind set age no I'm on the capital yeah you are yeah I don't think I'm on yeah your name's on there's you actually are so I am yeah oh so it's better look I think it's oh yeah Town Garage actually I was going to talk to you about that yeah okay motion made I'll second very good all the favoritly say aye aye so I figured out that you have in terms of requirements to be reviewed and discussed oh yeah thank you we we also have the charter committee yeah I didn't put that on there but that was a function I had so yes there are two committees in particular that I'm not sure that are active or valid at this point the old world farm committee and then the town treasurer collection committee that was formed the higher than the town treasurer that we have a place so yeah I had to question from the select board and I wasn't sure I I noticed the town's harder committee but I left that as in these committees there's no term right so the names are just kind of there so I don't know if they seem to been in the town report but it's probably not something that's regularly followed up on to uh okay no I'd say both of those that you have listed were ad hoc committees and their work is done so they don't exist in course is that correct I would take the ball just because if God for me we needed a new treasurer we might not want to have exact same people we we want to have a new yeah I mean some of the same people might be sold out of course of course all right on the other hand the committee I believe that we decided that the charter is a living document and we wanted to have the committee sort of in standby mode the idea that you know we say hey we do want some revisions to the charter some of them might say yeah I don't want to serve anymore than right down or something we'd appoint more but the committee is still there in my memory and I was going to suggest that we started looking into some you know the positions that we've talked about in the past town auditor which if you read the paper many towns the town right near us is loaded to get rid of the town so that's something that we could pass off to the charter committee and you know the list of things is ongoing also so there is some things that could be done with that time chart great um so where are we on this discussion here we're rolling we're talking go bye bye they showed you yes uh huh yeah is there anything else yeah okay I believe on the town charter committee that the Karen spilled her last name g r a m e r 1 m yeah so anyway okay move the next item or do you people want to talk more about when we we took a vote on all right okay all right so the next thing was uh as I just mentioned the COVID-19 how many of them like COVID-19 do you have anything to add to this discussion here no that's not this time that's okay no really okay uh do you think we've been discussed whether we want to keep recording data that I think we all agree is not so I mean at some point I'm going to guess the cbc is just going to stop reporting this yeah yeah I would think um what do you guys think about putting something on our agenda for our first meeting in May at uh because Joe Biden has said that he is going to end federal COVID emergency stuff and just the emergency's over yeah and just see if we want to have this continuing on our agenda yeah it's becoming a little tired yeah yeah and it's taking up valuable space and you know our town and ministry has other things to do yeah so perhaps we don't have to have it on I think not anymore unless you have emergency let's let's wait until the federal oh federal emergency is over in May oh there's a quick debate all right yeah we don't want to act too quickly don't know okay um do we want to do our other business now we have some other business yes we're probably going to try to fit that in on time and the other business was the four corners schoolhouse mold issue which I read um what's the story I think we know I guess it's the mold there then I read it too would we have to allocate funds or just apply we don't even know we don't even know the cost and I would suggest to them if they do some remediation just apply they should do some common sense remediation in their budget at this point but yeah so Carolyn came to me to talk about this yeah she said that the meetings end up with the rest of you and I asked her to remind me who owns the four corners corner schoolhouse and she said that the town sold it to the four corners schoolhouse association for a dollar and that all residents of the town are members of the four corners schoolhouse association whether we want to or not and uh then she was also curious about ARPA funding for that and I said yes and we're studying up a process for that I don't want to encourage you to come in with hands out stretched for ARPA funding because if you do do that and a lot of other organizations are we want to get our process in place first but it does seem to me since town organizations can use the four corners schoolhouse for free that it would be appropriate for her to come in and just alert us to the fact that they've got such a mold problem that they are unsure about their ability to let other people use the four corner schoolhouse without having health issues and so this is a town resource that we've been used to having and until this gets remedied it may be out of commission or at least partially out of commission so I suggested that she come and talk to us in that spirit well there's nothing they can do to mediate some of the mold problems on her own we could have that discussion but okay I mean we're not going to take a lifetime on that but sure it can take some yeah um no yeah I'm not sure what they're looking no money I I had the feeling but yeah I never identified how much money they needed no no I was like okay well thank you for the alert but you know if I was associated and running a building like that I may try to do some stuff that was relatively inexpensive and to you know knowing the situation knowing the people that are involved that are involved I expected that's exactly what they're doing yeah I would think so too right but I guess if she wants to come in and talk to us about it that's okay but if you're gonna talk to her I would say she better think maybe put some numbers to some of these items that she was talking about well it sounds like expense yeah again I would say that she comes into the plugboard that the framing be hey we have this common resource that is out of commission partially or fully because of this mold issue just okay so we know that we needed out of town I believe it was through April so so asked to come to the meeting after that yeah do you so I'm just planning to schedule her to come in for that meeting would you rather I don't know if they'll have quotes or I don't know if they'll have it sounds like it doesn't work matter okay I'm not sure I think they want us to fund something there is the impression I have if you want funding then you have to come up with a note if they just want to come in and buy out of it or talk about it be welcome to do that but the expectation from you know we're not going to come out with dollars at the at any meeting near future no I think this is just alerting us to the state of a town resource and making sure that we have a relationship going forward you can see in the just in course of action number six that they plan to get cost estimates for everything for a complete job yeah to help them fundraise and then check on grants get estimates are efficient to grimoire and capstone yeah they don't need our information do that today absolutely no no I think they they were a really really good report here that documents everything and the situation yeah yeah I mean so I guess she wants to come in and talk about you can't yeah yeah I mean that'll start the fun too yeah good enough okay so that takes care of that and then uh we have to look at dolly's liquor and tobacco lesson yes okay so so business entity name is called jr byron now it's jr byron doing business as dolly's okay yeah right i'm trying to remember did we did did we do a motion the last one for these or because really the board right then they moved to um to have the clerk process the applications basically because of the vagueness and the law about approval yeah but yeah and dolly's is the only store in town that sells tobacco well I guess we just don't even know give it to rosie to process we don't really have yes or no it says right right no basically what we did in the past was if we had something saying we said it we just let it go through to rosie so do we just say no objections were raised right the town clerk and let the time for classes yeah yeah who's going to second I will okay don't second it also favorably say oh wait wait wait wait wait I thought we were just saying that we uh noting in a minute said no objections were ready oh we can do that but we're making an motion to authorize her to process it yeah yeah okay yeah okay I'm gonna hurt anything oh the favorably say all right okay so we took care of the other business um yeah I'm kind of made for you on this um future oriented administrative report I'm excited by the time I got that I don't want it I got the watch right here yeah oh this is the article one of the special yeah so you have the one it's fun yeah you're going to give me the highway okay there's that and then we have some how many minutes as approved well there's going to be changes to go so don't worry about that yeah oh we got to make it final you'll find out that the next meeting right okay approved out of tonight but you'll yeah yeah and this is oh I'm assigned one of the the town road and bridge stands yeah you're already so that's already fine or that but there's something else to know you is this the oh this is you don't need to find out you don't need to find out yeah right all right you can just take one of those yep that's okay favorite and I signed this was everyone supposed to sign this one that you're payroll vendors yep that's already signed and this is the that's the actual yeah the actual one right kind of really big one maybe keep it and you don't have anything on your your memo no I was busy with everything else on this a lot of stuff here yeah yeah yeah yeah enough time while everything else this weekend so yeah so at some point we're going to have to talk about looking for the police contact oh I'm going to email I needed to find the name of the Washington County so I will read it out and yeah yeah yeah I will do that tomorrow okay I will try to get that my my hope is if he can I would like to get him a April 3rd meeting to come in that's good yeah so you know I guess I just I really wasn't sure what the SP would say if they would have any more capacity or not you know just seems like it's been they've given us less and less coverage over the last few years that's just really yeah when you read last year's it was a downward well I've been on the phone to know what's been going on first we have 40 hours and just for budgetary reasons because they weren't even coming close to 40 hours yeah well let's do 20 hours because it's a better number and that's what they're really doing well now it's like not even 10 hours so if they hedge you could call very town of Berlin they might be interested to Berlin just down here you know Berlin's not that far away so they might be wanting to do that too well the county was pretty this was a few months ago that he was dealing with the the issue over at the school um that's a whole project by the way I think with the bits and plots but when he came by he seemed pretty positive that they need now capacity so you know and he was one that actually told me that they had recently signed with Waterbury to support that's good and that anything both they were kind of dividing up I forget how they were splitting in what what the two different agencies were doing but um so they're certainly a potential yeah maybe they have more option in Waterbury eliminating their police department and then they had three police uh they placed over a sign there three units could be there and then figure it worked out well that long well they ended up the public safety headquarters right there too all right yeah so we'll see what watery county but I mean I will try to see if he's available on yeah for the April 3 meeting to sure see what see what they can do and then I think as we find that out I can frame the discussion for where we kind of go from there yeah yeah perfect I think that's a good idea so Scott there's a traditional role for the newest member of the court he's making his hand about something yeah I I wonder when I get to learn the special hand shape okay but I will make a motion to a jury very good something thank you very much