 Hello everybody, welcome back to our weekly coffee chats. I'm of course doing with one of my besties, Katherine Edwards with all of our besties joining us right now at this interweb coffee table that we have all over the world to hash out these things that are on our mind. How are you doing this morning, Katherine? I'm doing really well. I've got my lovely regent's drink, which I just absolutely love it. And I feel I need it because I've been a little bit fallen off the bandwagon a bit, which I'm going to get back on with my diet recently, just because I've been burning the candles at both ends. And so today is my reset day, right? Get back into good habits again. But generally speaking, I'm pretty good. But I think the subject matter we're going to talk about today is really important. And it's a challenging one because it's a really hard one for people to deal with. And you guys, as most of our friends watching right now with us know, some of these topics we talk about, we don't know the answer. We just recognize a problem. And so we try to find within both of us and in the comments section with you guys, resolutions are ways to course correct because even these problems can seem bigger than us sometimes. But if we all just start course correcting, then there will be a domino effect. And hopefully it can change the world in general. And what we want to talk about today, guys, is this concept of gaslighting. And this is going to break out into a lot of other different topics. And basically what gaslighting is, guys, is when somebody is designed to make someone feel crazy. So what it is, is it's taking if somebody, like, let's say, for my example, the example that kind of triggered me to want to talk about this, is let's say that somebody comes up to you and says, hey, this guy is bullying me for no reason. And that person says, well, no, you're picking on this guy by telling them. They're changing the reality of the situation to make the reality the truth of what happened, not the truth in your mind. And does that make sense? And oftentimes it supports the abuser. It supports the bad guy instead of the victim. Does that make sense, Catherine? Can you explain it better than me? I think it really makes sense to me. So my understanding of gaslighting and how I use it is you're literally twisting the situation. So we talk about the white hats and the black cats. And we talk about how what the black cats do, everything is inverted. And gaslighting is a perfect example to me of how everything is inverted. So I come to Brice and I say, I am being really picked on by this person. They're doing this or that. And she comes straight back at me and say, well, you must have said something and you must have done this. And actually, I really like them. And make me feel like, and we've seen this as a pattern for years and years before it had the word gaslighting, which is why so many abused people don't speak up. Because as soon as they speak up, they have this gaslighting where they're made to think that either they're making it up or they're exaggerating or they did something to deserve it. And this can be in all walks of life. But I think at the moment, it's so prevalent because there's such a lack of self-responsibility and everything we see on the media, in the books, everything, you look at what's happening with the American at the moment. Most or any other, it's exactly they're not pretending it's not the same in the UK because it is. It's all the attention is on blaming the other side normally for what you've done. It's like if someone, you know. So yeah, it's a very complex issue. It's been around forever. And now it's got a label that we can use. But I think also the label is very misused as well. It is misused. And it's a specific form of manipulation, basically. I had text. So I'll kind of give you guys the story of how we started this conversation. I'll let you take it away, Catherine. I had text you this morning because we're trying to figure out what we're going to talk about. And a couple of days ago, our mutual friend, Shanti and I had done a video called Christians Behaving Badly because both Shanti and I have received a lot of very inappropriate threats, people wanting to unalive us from Christians basically because we've challenged the religion. We've never challenged God. We both have firm beliefs in God. But we've challenged the religion. And we've had evidence to support why certain things aren't adding up within this particular. And I believe it's the biggest religion in the world. So obviously, if you're awake, anything that's that big has been corrupted. That's just common sense. And for me, I was telling Catherine, when I started this, I've always been very open-minded when it comes to religion because I do just basically have a belief in God. And I think that's what's really allowed me to perceive other religions and see beauty in other faiths because I don't see God in religion as the same thing anyway. And when I started going through the missing books of the Bible on my channel four years ago, what was happening for me was even with that being said, there was a lot of deconstruction that was also happening for me because this is the faith that I grew up in. I grew up Presbyterian. I went to Sunday school every Sunday. So even though I have an open mind on religion, I still was deconstructing going, oh, well, they lied about that. They lied about that. And as somebody who grew up in that religion, I'm allowed to have emotion. When you find out you've been lying to, you're allowed to be emotional. Look at people who come out of Mormonism or come out of Scientology or come out of the Jehovah's Witnesses when they figure out they've been lied to. Now, what happened, what started to happen for both Shanti and myself, we both started to get a lot of emails threatening us, threatening our lives. I got emails threatening my family's lives. Comically, I brought this up. I had people emailing me saying, really smart men have told us that these missing books are bad and my responses, are you kidding me? Because really smart men have also told you to get the zappity-doodle off. What's the difference? It's just a book. Read it. You don't have to believe it. Read it. And so Shanti and I both have been calling this out as whistleblowers, being like, listen, this is a problem. If you claim that you have the one true religion and that everybody else is going to hell and you have the one true religion and you worship the Prince of Peace, but you're the only ones sending threats to unalive people. I had someone say in an email that I should be picked up by the military and sent to Gitmo and executed because I practice yoga. I'm sorry, if that's the world we're walking into, that's way worse than the controllers today. That's way more, way more control, way more cabal, way more evil for that controlled. And then we got so much support on that episode. Like so many people, we were trying to find a resolution. Like how do we work through this? How do we stop being attacked? Neither Shanti and I are on churches, YouTubes, leaving comments. We stay on our own pages. We stick to our, we mind our own business and we, with our audience, we never go and harass other people that have different opinions from us, we just don't do it, right? And most of the people were so awesome and so supportive and I loved all the feedback we got from other people and hearing other people's experience. Why one comment in my comment section, I ended up blocking this person. She had watched like half of the video and was gaslighting me and basically saying that I was bashing the Christians and that's why, no, no, no, I wasn't bashing the Christians. I was reading the missing books of the Bible pointing out where we were lied to by the powers that be and then the Christians started to attack me. I said something, I was a whistleblower and said something and now I, the victim, am being blamed and this is why so many victims of horrific crimes don't come forward. And we see this and so I just ended up blocking the person because I'm not gonna have somebody on my channel that is actively gas, trying to gaslight the situation, actively trying to manipulate the situation. That's not good for me and it's not good for the other people who are on the channel who are also trying to find resolution and there are so many beautiful, beautiful Christians out there who've never once threatened me or Shauntine. In fact, they've been very supportive of that work and very open to what we have to say. And so anyway, Kathy and I, it pissed me off so much because as somebody who's, it made me feel bad for people like Kathy on Rumble that we talked to the other day or my friend Jesse, like people who get gaslit a lot as whistleblowers. And so yeah, and from our little corner of the internet, I'm like, you mean to tell me that you know that every corner of our world has been corrupt but you really believe that the biggest religion in the world hasn't been touched? Because if you really believe that, I got a bridge in London, Catherine and I wanna sell ya. Yeah, completely. I think it's, I mean, I'm laughing and I say it's hysterical but of course it's not funny. It's like that nervous laughs where people do and they're like, oh, I've got no idea what the resolution is for this because it's in all aspects of society. So I have had so many threats talking about the health side of things. And you know, as people, Wayne Dyer, I've said this so many times, he said, people will find a hundred things a day to be offended about. Well, I think we can change it now to a thousand things a day because the culture today is people look to criticize and they look to offend. So we talk about active listening and are you listening to respond or are you listening to understand? And the same thing goes, are you listening to come up with what's wrong with it? Are you listening to be offended or are you listening to sort of say with a mindset of, oh, I wonder, is this something I want to explore further or not? And if not, just walk on and leave it because absolutely you shouldn't need to explore everything. You know, we've all got different directions that are priorities in our lives at this time. But I think it's really, for me, what's frustrating? So if I walk into my local supermarket and people have got the masks on and if they're just watching mainstream media and just listening to their doctors or the news, the mainstream news, I don't expect them to know any better. Because why would you? Because you're saying, when you're only getting one source of information, of course, for a lot of people, that's going to affect your thought process. But for people that are watching channels like ours, by the very nature, they're counting themselves as being more awake. And I'm not just talking about YouTube, I'm also looking at Instagram and things like this. I mean, I will put something constructive out about have you thought about, you might be able to reverse a long-term chronic disease by looking at some of your lifestyles, looking at addressing the root cause. And then I get accused of shaming anyone that's ill and I was born with my endometriosis, which actually is completely biologically impossible anyway. But I understand you've been told that by a medical professional that wants to keep you on their medication all their life, but how's that working out for you? And I think I honestly don't know what the answer is because I suppose one of the answers is we just keep doing the work on ourselves and we keep being the ones that are not offended, that we work on our boundaries about what's acceptable and we're the best example that we can be of having an open mind. And I can honestly say, I mean, over the last few years, I've looked at so many different types of medical research and so many different types of things to say, well, what if viruses do exist? What if, you know, germ theory is real? I will still keep looking at that because I do realize that I don't know everything. You know, if I look at how I care for my animals, how I care for my animals when I was 16 is completely different to how I care for my animals now because when I was 16, I did only have the vet to listen to. There was no internet. There was no other, you know, I could go and get books which were out of date a lot of the time based on the products we could get then. So as we always say, when you know better, you do better, but it's a challenge. And I think even people who are sitting there take the political situation because we're so used to aggressive language from those who should know better and should be set an example, you know, you expect parents to set a reasonable example for their children. We should expect people who are in a position of authority but they don't, you see, this is the problem. So every layer is broken. It's, you know, it's interesting when you're saying that with, yeah, I don't take care of myself the same at 16 or 41. Thank God, you know, and I was listening to a podcast yesterday and it was actually a Mormon podcast of ex-Mormons or something and somebody said something that I thought was that, like, really, that's really at home. He said, when I was young, I had lots of theories and no experience. But I'm old, I have lots of experience and no theories. And I thought that is, that really hits home. And you know, it's interesting, Catherine, my boyfriend talks a lot about, like, people who get very violent, because I consider it violence. When you're gaslighting somebody and trying to manipulate the truth, that's a violent act, in my opinion, because that's harming somebody intentionally. And what we're seeing, as my boyfriend likes to say, is people that lack a sense of self. And you don't really get a sense of self unless you actively work on yourself to know yourself. So what do we mean by, well, narcissists don't have sense of self. That's why they feed off of other people, why they manipulate all the time, is because they're constantly needing that supply to feel that sense of self. But people who are not narcissists typically do, buried deep down, have something they can rest on. That's something that they can be within themselves. And so when you develop a sense of self, others' opinions and your own opinions won't affect you as much, because you're able to observe things. You're able to observe your own triggers. You're able to observe other people instead of acting out those triggers, instead of being the violent person, instead of sending the nasty threatening email, threatening to unalive someone because they've done research that you decided to watch. You clicked on the video to watch it. And so now they must be punished because you didn't like the research that they had to present. And it has nothing to do, again, we take that responsibility back, that autonomy back, that self-governance back, you know, here, and that cracks me up too, Catherine, because it's so hypocritical, like an oxymoron, because here on this corner of the internet, we're all about personal sovereignty. Exactly. People in our corner of the internet don't take accountability. They don't take personal sovereignty. They don't take self-governance. If you see a video where I've labeled it, like the Freemasons wrote the Bible, here's the truth, and that triggers you, it is your personal responsibility not to watch it. You have to, if you actively clicked on that video and you got triggered. Now again, facts aren't feelings and feelings aren't facts. I feel like I'm having to say that more and more and more to the truth or community than we do to the normies who are confused about which bathroom to use. Facts are facts. Like it's a fact that the Freemasons wrote the Bible. Like that's a fact. You can look that up. What does that mean then? That means that the real Bible is under the Vatican, which means that we've been lied to. Now here's my thing is, if you're a person that triggers you, okay, well now your responsibility is to figure out why that triggered you. Is it because you're afraid now, because things you've been taught to believe are obviously false? And if that's what's triggering you, then what is truth? Well, truth is that you're a living, breathing, being on this planet and in my opinion, there is a God and you are of that God consciousness. So you really have nothing to fear. But it's not my fault as the presenter that the research, the actual research, the factual research has triggered you. That's not, I shouldn't be unalived for that. And frankly, I mean, I said this in the comment like shame on anybody who sends death threats to people because they have a different opinion or because they've presented some research you don't like, shame on you. You should be ashamed of that. Because if I ever did that, I would feel in my healing process would feel so bad and terrible for doing that that I would wanna reach out and apologize to those people. Because I don't know, it's just ridiculous. Or for somebody, like in your case, Catherine, talking about like the mental aspect of health. If that's something that doesn't resonate with you, then don't watch the video. It's like if you've got friends, we talk about abusive relationships all the time and most people have experienced some sort of abusive relationship whether it's being bullied at school or whether it's being in a narcissistic relationship or God forbid a cult or something like that. But most of us can think of quite a few abusive relationships we've been in and we might even have been the abuser. Because if you've been brought up in that way, you might have had to reach a certain stage in your life where you thought, oh my goodness, I'm repeating this behavior cycle. I need to course correct. And Shanti and I spoke about this, that everyone has the right to change. People do change. I don't make the same decisions I did when I was 16. I don't look the same. I don't eat the same. I don't speak the same. I don't have the same opinions. I have some same core values, but I've got a better understanding of those. And I hope I will continue to get a better understanding of those as I go on. So it's just Patricia's coming back with my horse. Look at this, look at this, look at this, look at this, coming back. Tisha, Tisha, she's a good guard dog. Someone's coming back with my horse. So I think a lot of it comes down to what we've spoken to about boundaries. Lola, it's Romeo, it's your brother. He's just coming back with Patricia. I'm sorry. The thing is I want them to tell me when someone's in the garden because we're very isolated here. So I never sort of reprimand her because it's confusing for her because she is a brilliant guard dog. But with boundaries in our personal life, that's something often we learn as we age and we often learn the hard way. When we realize that we haven't set clear boundaries, we then course correct hopefully in the next relationship or the next one whenever we decide to get the message. And I think this is about boundaries here. And I sort of do feel it's a bit like putting someone on the naughty step. I think this is the beauty of social media is you can block and you can delete. And I think it's really important, honestly, we do it more. And I think quite a lot were shamed into not doing that. But I would just like, again, I'm gonna use Wendah. If you squeeze an orange, only orange juice can come out. I can put my hand up and say I have never, even in the worst moments of my life, even I'm a really happy drunk. I never get nasty when I try. I'd say I'm a very hateful person. I get very silly, but I never get nasty. But the thing is, I'm not saying I don't have nasty thoughts in front of me. But even when I've got nasty thoughts or jealous thoughts or judgmental thoughts about people, I can honestly hand on heart say, I have never spoken to someone the way I see people speak to people on social media ever. I just would never do it because I understand how damaging that can be. And you do not know the repercussions of your work. You do not know what that person is going through. And if you're going to be the one that tips them over the limit. And I think this lack of self-responsibility for taking account of our actions, my rule is, is if you wouldn't say it to someone's face, you should never put it on social media. If you haven't got the guts to have that conversation in a civil way, face to face, then don't put it on social media. And I think part of the problem is in this politically correct society, we haven't been strict enough on the boundaries. And therein lies a different issue. So when we take, I don't know what to call them anymore, Bryce. I don't want to call them the black cats. I don't want to call them Illuminati. But say we take Facebook or YouTube or something. We all know about censorship, but looking at it objectively, and I'm not saying that I agree with what they're doing, please don't think I say. But equally, we've proved as a society, we are completely incapable of censoring ourselves. Yeah, it's so... Well, and it goes back into that, that kind of muckety muck. We can't censor ourselves, but yet we're also trying to censor others. Yeah. I, you know, there's tons of telegram group that I've just, somebody sent me a slide where they're basically like, if you share any, they're a truth or telegram group, if you share anything that contradicts the opinion of the owner, they block you. Well, that's work. That's the same thing that Facebook's doing. Like that's no different. And, you know, or like, you know, the fact that people from this community want me to be killed because I am challenging a church. Like, well, that's the same thing that you're no different than the controllers. You're no different. Yeah, absolutely. You're no different than the people that are trying to kill Julian Assange for exposing all the stuff we needed to be exposed because otherwise, we wouldn't be having these conversations in the first place if it wasn't for all these brave whistleblowers. And this is what's so ironic about it is we put, it's just horrific that honestly, society is a mess at the moment. And I think I know we are talking to the converted. We all are, we're all trying to do the best. I don't have the answers. Honestly, the last couple of weeks, I've really seriously considered whether I'm going to carry on doing a YouTube channel. And I'm not saying this for sympathy or anything. And I'm sure most people don't care, but I'm just like, do you know what? There's a limit to how much you can feel you can give and contribute. Actually, I'd rather go and help my local community out now. Some know they depreciate it. And that isn't against all the wonderful listeners we've got. I'm not talking to the people that do show up and watch and comment and interact and share brilliant. I'm just saying, you know, society is a mess at the moment. And somehow we've got to en masse do something different. And that has to come from individual behavior and calling out bad behavior in a nice way and showing that there's a different way of doing it. You know, we all know people that can really, I can think of people in my life that have really called me out on my behavior or my actions, but they've done it in such a constructive way that I've really made the change and I've wanted to do better. And then I can think of other people that have done it in such an unconstructive way that it's just put my barriers up. Yeah, yeah, it's some, and there's only so much like you can take too. Like I just don't even, now when I get threatening emails, I just don't even open them because I can see that. And I just don't even, I mean, and that's the thing too, people's opinions, people are so triggered and so you believe in their own opinions so much that they, you know, the other day I got an email, it was an essay of someone trying to save me from my new age beliefs. Well, here you go, the term new age was created by the three, the same three letter agency that the term conspiracy theorist was created by. So obviously you haven't done your research. You're just triggered in your opinion. So you don't have facts. And secondly, if you actually wanted to stop me from practicing yoga, like the audacity, first of all, that I'm someone who's actually studied all the scriptures. I've learned Sanskrit. I've spent 18 years literally studying this. You've studied nothing of this. And somehow you think your opinion is more valuable than someone who's actually done the work. So come back, go read the Yoga Sutras first. Go read the Bhagavad Gita first. Study it first. Get rid of the propaganda you've been led to believe by the controllers of the world, and then we'll have a conversation. So that's the thing too, is people come, they come with their feelings about things. It's just like the other side of this world we live in where they think we should be calling people if they wanna be an animal, call them that animal. That's delirious. That's delusional. It's same when you send me an essay about new age when you obviously never did. That's delirious. It's delusional. That's derangement. Because you haven't actually done the work to prove your point. You're relying on what was their point. This is what gets me is, is your point to be right or is it to genuinely help for? I start off to know what that is. No, it's the bullet. It's the bullet. That's what I mean. It's the bullet. This is what I'm laughing about because you can read, like I have had some really helpful people send me stuff where they've sent me stuff that I've needed to know and I've been like, oh, thank you because this was done in a really constructive way and it wasn't just opinion or gossip. It was like, I think you should see this. And then when I have, I've like, wow, thank you. Yes, I really did need to see that. So I'm not saying ever that there's not a things. It's just like, what's the intent behind? And isn't the intent malice gossip or to get someone to just pander to you or is it to actually educate, inform, you know. No, that was a lash out. That essay. Oh yes, I know it was. That's what I mean. It was done in anger and in hatred and in rage. It was not, it was that person projected. And that's the thing too. When you know anything about self development or spirituality, everything you project onto somebody else is more about you than the person you're throwing it on, right? Oh, completely, completely. It's like, you know, everyone, of course, we're humans. So we will have opinions and opinions are really important so long as you're not stuck in them. Yeah. You know, opinions are a really good survival tactic. You know, they are important for your survival. You know, every decision that we make has got some impact either a media, are you gonna walk in front of that train or unimedia, are you gonna eat junk food or your life and because that will affect your life. Just as a question, it might be a bit further down the journey before that catches up with you. And I think I had a lovely conversation this week with an animal communicator called Emily and she raised some absolutely brilliant points and in a way that I hadn't really heard it before about even when, you know, there's a bit at the end about if for anyone who's got dogs, listen to the bit at the end of the video about dogs and interacting with dogs because the way our human brain works, we came to the conclusion which I'm very happy to then move on as I get more information but it's something that I've thought for a long while is that it's almost inverted when we say that, you know humans are the only species that can be enlightened. We've realized it's probably the other way round and actually because animals aren't caught in this ego side of things, most animals are clipping in a pretty much sense of enlightenment anyway. It's difficult to explain without spending half an hour doing it but I'd really encourage people to listen to that just because she explains things in a really beautiful way from the animals perspectives about how they haven't given up on us but how actually it's only gonna go to one of two ways. Either we're going to realize that we need to be if we can't connect with ourselves, we can't connect with other humans and if we can't connect with ourselves and other humans, it's really hard to connect with other species, whether it's an animal or a tree or a cabbage plant or an aloe vera and if we can't connect with that, we can't live in harmony or mother earth so we're either gonna learn these skills or we're gonna be wiped out. Yeah, I mean that's come to that point and I was just watching something this morning we know that love is the highest vibration that there is and when you do things in love, you don't, you get different results than when you do things in rage or hatred or anger and I would say whistleblowers, people have a right to be upset when they find out they've been lied to. They have a right to be upset about it. To try to gaslight them about it is you're doing something that's not good karma for you because energy feeds energy, right? If we act in love and even if we feel ourselves triggered by the information that the person is sharing because you've also been lied to by the same information if you sit and act in love and just listen to the person, just listen to them as a human being, how many people, and yeah, we're talking, our friends on this channel know what we're talking about. We're trying to discuss this with you guys to find a solution, right? Like, you know- Yes, it's an important thing because we want your input to help us find a solution because we don't have it. How many people have sent me these nasty emails and not even consider the fact that I'm actually a human being, right? I leave nasty comments, not even considering the fact that I'm a human being. Like, when I first started going through the missing books of the Bible, I'm a human being that grew up in a Presbyterian church. And I'm like, holy shit, I was manipulated and lied to as a kid. Let's deconstruct this because, wow, this little girl was, the little girl in me was lied to. And seeing it through a place of love, like when we see these whistleblowers come out of these more horrific programs, seeing them through the eyes of their human beings, mm. You know, it's like we've talked about this before, Catherine. There's so many people in this community that want to see like the royal children, George, Charlotte and Louie, I won't carry on, but they don't think they have a right, you know, because of who their parents are. And I'm like, those are children. What the hell are you talking about? Those are children. It's horrifying, isn't it? And yeah, that's exactly when people are trying to do that to you and your children. You're horrified. And yet you would have those thoughts about someone else's. These are gonna be terrible. They were born to a mother and father just like you were. They didn't pick to be, I feel, I feel, I worry about them. I feel empathy for them of what they might be experiencing, I don't know, what they might be experiencing behind closed doors. That horrifies me as a 41 year old woman, because I see them as children, innocent children. And to see people in this community go vigilante against a child, mm. There is something very wrong, very, very wrong. And I know our friends watching know my opinion is that the true their community is controlled by the controllers too, just like the normies are. I think it's two sides of the same coin. And I think to really be awake, you have to leave both behind. We know there's controlled opposition. We know, you know, that we know. And that's the thing too, Catherine. We've seen this a lot in this community. Whenever a big wig in this community gets called out for abusing somebody, people panic and freak out and they start to shame the victim. Yeah. Just like the normies do to those who are coming out of horrific situation. So how are we any different from the normies? We're not. We're not any different from the normies. And I don't know what the answer is. Like I mean, I think the answer is just to leave it all behind, but back to what you were saying with YouTube, like I get it, Catherine. Like there's only so much abuse you can take. Yeah. And so much when you just sort of think, okay, over to someone else now, someone else. I mean, it's like we use the term do your own research a lot. And obviously people, they've got busy lives. They've got responsibilities, whatever that looks like for you and all of our lives, our responsibilities are different. They're different at different stages of our lives. They can change in a nutshell, in a click. You know, if suddenly a family member becomes sick, whether it's an animal or human, then suddenly you have to drop everything, deal with that. So all of our situations are different and we'll continue to change and we need to react to that, let alone what we need to react with from external events that are imposed on us. And I think, you know, when we realize that, you know, people are just doing the best they can with the resources they've got, but I would still come back to the fact that, you know, you cannot, you do have to put the work in. So whatever might be important to you, I've had loads of people, I've had loads of people shame me because, you know, I'm still paying tax. Well, I haven't got time at the moment. It's not high enough up my priority list to sort of do all the legal work to become experts in that. I'm very pleased others are and it might become a priority for me. It might not in the future, who knows. But this constant shaming for what people's priorities are, but I think you do have to take responsibility for doing your own research. And that research can take many different forms. It doesn't have to be internet research. It doesn't have to be book research. It can be life research. Be like, okay, let's have a look and see. You know, like Bob Proctor said, you know, he was told by one of his best mentors when he was in his early twenties, well, how's your life working out for you? You're broke, you're unhappy, you're a miserable person to be around and you're always sick and you're only in your twenties. The mentor was like, well, have you ever seen me sick? Have you ever seen me unhappy? Have you ever seen me stressed and have you ever seen me not have money? It's like, this research can be a good self audit. It can be looking at your lifestyle. We're not saying that we all have to be experts on everything going on in the world, but we do have to be experts on ourselves. We have to take responsibility for ourselves. We can't blame other people for what, where we are. And you know, that's, we see that in the truth of the world too. Like we know in the normie world, we have these like bloodlines, these elite bloodlines. Well, we're also seeing that being talked about in the truth of the world too. That these people are gonna come in and save us because they're Christ bloodline. No, darling, you're only responsible for you. That's the awakening that you take accountability. Find your sense of self. If you're triggered, that's your golden motto to get to feel like, to figure out where you're still out of alignment. Where do you not feel capable? Where do you not feel looking after yourself? And we all do feel it. Well, I'm speaking. Yeah, absolutely. I have times when I feel it, I'm like, oh my God, you know, which direction do I turn in? What do I prioritize with all this going on in the world? Where do I prioritize? And it's a daily question. And I think it's a good one to ask yourselves because priorities do change. And when suddenly another light bulb of information goes on for you or another realization or another, oh my God, I've got that all wrong, then you can look at what you do about it. But we can't know everything all at once. I mean, can you imagine how awful it would be? None of us would have a childhood. You know, playing, relaxing, innocence, not having to have responsibilities. So it's really good that we go through these other stages. That's why a lot of ancient wisdom, they value the elders because they've got the experience. They've got the wisdom which only comes through living through it. And you don't want to wish your life away. You know, you don't want to be, I don't want to be as wise at my age as I hope I will be in my 90s. I don't want to wish my life away. I want to have those experiences, as many good ones as possible. Wisdom is gained through bad experiences. Wisdom is gained through triggering. And I will say like, what happens? Like if you're triggered by something I say or Catherine says and you actually lean into that trigger and you do the research for yourself, what's the worst that's gonna happen? You're either going to think we're completely wrong and have the evidence to show for it or you're gonna liberate yourself from a previously held belief system that was keeping you enslaved in your own mind. You know, I heard Marnie Alton said that once in the class, she was like, half the time we think we're in a cage, but then all of a sudden something happens and we realize the door to the cage isn't even locked. We can just push it. This is exactly what we were talking about in this animal communication thing. We were talking about the analogies with FIFA Vendetta and how many times all of us, including me, put ourselves in that self-imposed cage. I do it a lot still. I still know this, but I still do it, but I recognize it quicker and quicker. It's, yeah, it's that cage and I'll bring it back to how we started. Let's say that you realize, you spend your whole life believing that the Bible was the actual Word of God. Well, let's first back up. There's some really horrific things in the Bible like stoning people for being women who were raped got stoned because it was their fault, right? So that's a horrific idea. Not the God I believe in would do that. So then we start to understand that, wow, okay, so this, I've been told this is the Word of God. I've been programmed to believe it, but now I have the evidence that it's not. It was written by the Freemasons. Oh, interesting. Well, they're also the group responsible for a lot of other nefarious stuff. So what does that mean for me? Well, if this isn't the Word of God, what is? And that liberates you because all of a sudden you realize that God is not confined to a book. God is within you. And all of a sudden you're free. You don't have to meet the demands of a religion. You don't have to meet the demands of what another man wants from you because now you really have, you're totally mentally free, that mental prison you put yourself in. You're free to have direct communication with God, with yourself, within your own temple. You know, it's like when we look at like the Zappardee Dudas versus, you know, homeopathic. When you start to challenge the science and look at other possibilities, all of a sudden you become free because you're not chained and slaved to one system. And you get to now be the person that's responsible for making your own decisions, not doing what someone tells you to do because they've told you to do it, whether that's in religion, academia, whatever, politically, but because now you are free and you can see a little clearly to make your own decisions. You're not being puppeted by somebody else. And so I would ask anybody who feels those triggers, like what would happen if you just leaned into him a little bit? Like what's the worst that's gonna happen? You're gonna be free once you work through that. You're not gonna be enslaved anymore because I guarantee you, for the Christians, the God, the real God is nothing like the God of the Bible. The real God is mercy, love, grace, and we all have a part of that. And you're right, like animals, my dog doesn't care if I'm skinny or fat, doesn't care if we live in a cardboard box or a mansion. Actually, I think he would care if we lived in a mansion because he doesn't like to be separated. He doesn't like, he wants us all to be in the same room. So I think that would stress about a lot. You know, he just wants to be with, because they work off of love. Absolutely, absolutely. Right? Yeah, it's fantastic. And also take the good from the bad because we can go again and stay for what, I mean, I'll talk about, well, perhaps we'll talk about what's going on with the farmers another time, but just be cautious where any time we're being led to a certain cause. It's not like- You know, so instead of being vigilante, because vigilante is, I mean, even Magdalene in her gospel talks about like there's the wisdom of the wrathful person, but she's very clear that this isn't vigilante. Like when there's, where there's any change and you can make change and you can do it in a very respectful, loving way, not go vigilante where you're threatening people's lives and you're hurting people because that's not good either. And that's what the controllers want us to get to that point. They want us to get to the point where we're- They pick on one thing. It's like the whole, we should have a chat one day. People, let us know in the comments if you wants to about diet and nutrition. It's like this whole thing about you must never eat kale because it's going to kill you. I'm just like, oh my God. Oh God, no. Everything in moderation. You know, you know, you're not going to die of oxalate poisoning or be affected by it by having a healthy balanced diet that includes real food. Right. You know, if you just kale or if you just eat anything, if you just eat the lienas all day, you'd be screwed. You'd be ill. People just, we take the isolation. We all know that main farmer just takes everything down to its constituents so much that they've forgotten how the whole body, mind, spirit works together. But you can do that with diet as well. You could pick absolutely anything and come up with good and bad for it. But in moderation, you know, is it real food? Is it produced ethically? Right. Right. In loads of chemicals, you know. They brought us to such an extreme way of thinking, you know. And so I guess to end it, like, if you're triggered and you're sending out nasty comments or hateful emails, you're playing right into the controller's hands. That's another way to look at it. You, congratulations. You played their game. You, you, you were doing exactly what the controller was doing now. Yeah. But if you're able to actually maturely look at your triggers and consider and listen to what whistleblowers have to say without trying to shame the whistleblower in favor of protecting the abuser, then you've matured, then you've gone. And it's a constant, it's, you know, every day I have to work on that. Every day, you know, it's constant like, okay, am I protecting the abuser in whatever situation because that makes me feel safe? Because it's an opinion of mine or am I able and love able to listen to the whistleblower and hear what they have to say through a loving play? So anyway, guys, well, I cannot wait to hear your suggestions down in the comment section below of what you would do in your life to try to work on your triggers or where you try to put boundaries up around gas lighting, all that kind of stuff, because, you know, we do these coffee chats not to really have an answer to give you, but like, you're what you guys have to say too, because we don't know what the answer truly is. So all right, you guys, well, next week we'll be on Catherine's channel. I will put all her links down in the description box below in case for some reason, you've never seen this beautiful lady if you're new to the channel, I'll put her channel down there because we switch off every week. And also, you guys, just a quick announcement, my sorry, my nose is really like crazy. We must be speaking truth. Quick announcement, next week, so the weekend of St. Patrick's Day, right after I filmed with Catherine, we are gonna be heading up to North Georgia for, you're gonna love this, Catherine, for the Bigfoot Convention. We're gonna be up there, our friend Jessica, the cryptic huntress, I think she's speaking at the convention, she's gonna be there, and she had said something to me about it, and I was like, you know what, that's only like an hour away for us, so why not? So we're gonna be up there for the convention. I know a lot of you guys are fascinated by this, they're gonna have a lot of really great speakers. So if you're close to the area, it's going to be held at the Dillard House, which is a big kind of resort up there in that area. They do, I don't know, their hotel rooms might be booked at this point, but they do have some really big speakers, some paranormal speakers, I think you're gonna be there too, it's like a two-day event. I will put a link to the website down in the description box below, even if we're gonna be up there for the weekend, but even if you just come for the day, I think some people are just coming up for the day. I'd love to meet some of you guys, and I know Jessica would probably love to meet some of you guys too, and we can listen to some of these really, Robbie will be there, I was laughing with my boyfriend, and I think if any of our viewers come to this convention, they'll recognize Robbie, probably before they recognize me, he will be there. So, anyway, I just wanted to put that out there, guys, because you have a week now. That sounds such fun, I wish I had a good, yeah. I know, the ticket's only like $20 today. I'd probably even dress up, I'd love to dress up as Bigfoot. I'm sure, I can't wait to see what people are gonna be, I mean, I think- I would love to dress up like that, that would really, I'd have a lot of fun like that, yeah. It's a beautiful area of the world, it's so gorgeous up there, that's a huge hotspot for this type of activity, so, yeah, if you're in the area and you need something fun to do with like-minded people, it's like $20 for a ticket, so it's pretty affordable. I mean, there's tons of great speakers within this cryptid world that are gonna be there, and so that should be really fascinating to hear what they have to say and to hear their experiences. So, and Jessica will be there as well, so. Anyway, you guys, well, we will all, we will talk to you next week. Bye, everybody. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.