 To make sure you're in the right place, we're here to do a webinar on touch typing software with CAS type is a company I've been working with for about six months now. So it's a chance to kind of showcase their work. So thank you for your interest and while we get set up and everyone joins in in your screen you should be able to see a chat box. So if you're watching on a phone maybe just tap the screen. I've just typed in hello. So if you can just say who you are and where you're watching from just as a kind of just getting warmed up and then we'll get started. Then I'll share my screen shortly and then I'm going to bring in Keane and then we've got a number of questions and some demos to go through with you and introduce the kind of software to you and the importance of touch typing. So yeah so in the chat box you just get used to the controls at the bottom and just let me know who you're watching from. So if I just introduce myself with while people are getting connected. My name is Ross. I've been a teacher for 25 years in secondary schools in London. I've been blogging as teacher toolkit which I'm sure you've seen through the ticket page or my social media how you got connected and I've been working with CAS for about seven to eight months looking at their software helping them get the word out. So we've decided to do a little free webinar for everyone just so you can get the use to what they do and how it can benefit yourself. You can share this resource with parents or it might be something you might want to consider for your school considering well forget lockdown it's a resource that you can use full stop. So just while people get connected I'm just going to bring in Keen shortly and just for the recording purposes so the video will get circulated with everyone in the session obviously safeguard and if you're watching from home and I'm doing this from day 91 for me at home you know be conscious of any kids in the background and things like that so you might want to just turn your video off if you've got children behind you. Okay so Keen could you introduce yourself to everybody tell everyone what you do where you're speaking from that type of stuff. Sure hello everyone I'm Keen and I'm the MDF CAS type I'm based in Lemmington Spa but our main IT office is based down in Bexel on Sea which is where the company was originally based from and basically we've enhanced our touch typing software it's been servicing the education industry for a long time and we've enhanced it to make it truly inclusive so that it makes everyone learning possible for everyone in the whole class together and that's pretty much CAS in the nutshell. Great so I'm going to thank Keen so I'm going to show you my screen everybody and you should be able to see kind of we've got a set of PDF slides we're just going to work through so Keen just to get started can you tell us a little bit more deeply about CAS type and what it does and for people watching you've got the link on the screen there and I've already circulated with the vast majority the touch typing test which you have so you should be able to see my slides on your screen so just maybe give me a thumbs up or a thumbs down if you can okay right so Keen do you want to just ask people about the kind of little test that they did to begin with? Sure yeah no problem I mean what I'll do is I'll just tell people firstly obviously thank you very much to you Saffros and thank you everyone for joining but just wanted to let you know people you know often wonder what CAS stands for but it actually stands for Keyboarding A to Z and the company is specialized in teaching keyboard skills literally from the onset and you know the whole system was developed through research and scientific a scientific approach so it's it's cutting out any thoughts of oh should this work shouldn't work it's actually fully based on research now it was developed about 20-odd years ago and I'll come into that a little bit more further down on the screenshots which you'll see and I'll also tell you a little bit more about why the course has been updated why it's dare I say special in terms of it actually is used for everyone in the classroom not just only special needs children but before we go on to that I think we need to ascertain that we still need to teach typing skills and hopefully you all would have taken the course the little free typing test which is on our website I believe Nicky I think you're here so hello to you I'm sorry you had issues there I have no idea why but it must be something to do with the network which you're you're coming out from but I have actually asked Steven IT to to take a quick look at that okay so I'm going to quickly interrupt Keen so for everyone watching what we're going to do is I'm going to bounce lots of questions to Keen and talk you through the slides and then Keen's going to do a couple of demos as we go away and go through the slides I'm going to do my best to keep the time and if you can just place the occasional question in the chat box or I might just pause and ask for any general questions as we go through for the next hour and then we'll do our best to answer some of your questions so our plan is to walk you through the entire offering of cares of the software what it does what impact it can have and then hopefully that will address most of the questions so I guess first question from me Keen is you know I never learned to touch type I think on my son who's nine on his iPad on his computer in school and at home and things and again it's pretty much hit and miss so why do you think it's important for us to teach touch typing well Ross if I can just ask if you could just move on to slide number four if you don't mind yeah basically we live in a world of computers now and with online in such a critical element for delivering and submitting work be it in school further education we also have to remember that touch typing it's it's although it's a fundamental skill it's an essential life skill we need to ensure that everyone including our students can work effectively and efficiently online what you have to remember is you know it's not acceptable anymore to be typing with two fingers it's not really a hard skill to learn it's just like you know the analogy of driving a car we have lessons we the reason we have lessons is to learn you know so often everyone dismisses typing touch typing 15 10 15 years ago was pretty much everywhere everyone was learning to touch type but I think there's so much of expectation because of the gadgets and the gadgetry that we you know are able to type but if no one teaches us to type how are we going to learn so but important keen sorry I'm going to keep interrupting you and what what is the phrase touch typing um you know where's it coming from or what does it mean uh well touch typing is can I ask if you can just please go down to Ross oops there we go you just interrupt me as much as we need some hard-hitting questions uh for some reason the screen's not moving Ross okay I'm on slide five um I'm hoping most people can see that so um you should have a list of reasons right if not I'm just going to come out my share and go back in hold on everybody um technical issues let me try and share that again um so so basically I mean touch typing is the ability to type with all your fingers and thumbs without looking at the keyboard uh so that's that's pretty much in a nutshell what it is okay can you see that slide yep we can see those so if I can ask you to pop back one to slide number five uh so basically this explains it so when your students have touched type are typing with just two fingers I mean some can be using a scribe or speaking using recognition software they're actually using the conscious part of their mind so this is the term they think as they do now this additionally creates mental load which impacts productivity and actually stops people while you're working in their potential so if I can ask you to just move on to the next slide please Ross there we go um so but when you actually touch type students use all their fingers and the thumbs so basically the skill is automatized and it actually moves to the subconscious which leaves them the conscious mind freedom thinking concentrating they keep concentrating the planning their writing their proof reading their editing and at the same time we're increasing productivity and engaging independent working full stop so very similar to as I mentioned earlier with driving a car once you learn it frees up the conscious mind so you know when you've learned to drive your you know you can indicate change gear look in the mirrors all at the same time without even realizing you're doing it and that's what we're trying to do with touch typing so king um I guess the key question is what makes this suitable for um mainstream pupils as well as uh students with learning links okay well when we came uh when when we joined cars about five years ago it was very important you know there are softwares out there which are very specific and generally cater for the mainstream but we wanted to be truly inclusive in case for absolutely everyone in the classroom uh so the main difference was we actually got involved with the Dixlexia Research Trust and we went through our whole course with them to make it purely and truly inclusive so everyone in the classroom be children students with Dixlexia Dixpraxia etc could all use the course and so if everyone's working together there are no differences you as well as I know uh with teachers you know it's so hard to sometimes differentiate or to zone off uh and of course the the issues that gives with children themselves so um you know it's important to all to realize that children get diagnosed at different times at different stages of their their lives be with Dixlexia or differences and you know how can they learn to read write and spell if if letters and characters are jumping around the screen so what we developed with the Dixlexia Research Trust was the preference screen which is a precursor to the actual course and what this does is tailor the course to each individual student now it's actually set to a basic default setting so 80 percent of the students will be able to go on click begin course and then go straight into the course but for that 10 15 percent of students uh this is really key and critical prior to actually using the course so can you do a little demo here yeah yeah yeah I mean there were a few obviously additional things which we did in the course that we you know introduced additional line spacing um and uh different fonts but if I go on to this is the live course so every course will actually open up with the screen uh schools actually get two options they get a standard edition as well as the Dixlexia edition so every Dixlexia edition uh will open with this and basically the student will just go through these preference screen to make sure they can read what is in this box or on the screen comfortably so blue you may be aware of a certain frequency of blue you may be aware of a second frequency of yellow which minimizes blurring and then there are several other filters which simply minimize white screen glare you can change the font color to give added contrast we've got a selection of several different typefaces including two which we've actually licensed from lexiretable and some teachers will be aware of opening Dixlexia as a font uh for ease of reading the font sizes uh minimum font size on the the course is 21 point uh and we've also got an extra large font size as well and what we we did was we actually went one step further on the actual course we've got an online keyboard present at all times now a lot of teachers will know that the keyboard is quite critical for students especially students with Dixlexia when they they buy a laptop or a desktop and they always tend to choose keys with black or white letters on a black keyboard uh with our uh course we've actually in built a further one which has got the chosen filter color on black keys as well and simply once the student has read all this and they can read all that information clearly all they do is click begin course and all those settings are then integrated to the whole course for them uh so that's that so i'll come back to you ross thank you um so um you know it's you know it's got a lot a lot of great features um what i was um going to ask you next keen as i guess uh on this slide is you know if you think of all the um products you can download you know all the stuff that we buy you know i think of all the things i used to buy as a deputy head you know though i wasn't a pastoral leader but you know working closely with the senco and the pastoral designated safeguarding lead and what what should teachers school leaders look out for when they download um or the access of particular types of software so we've got a list here um any any recommendations sure well i mean ross i think you're more than where i mean you're you're from that background and i'm not trying to bat the the teachers course but uh the bottom line is teachers today are not only expected to teach i mean you know in my day it was a teacher would actually just teach and then the child would go off but but now teachers are also parents they're counselors they're confidants they're protectors there's so much more so and there are also some you know response for safety while working online and you know this is actually paramount especially with children so when two teaching uh choosing software teachers should ensure that companies are reputable they do have strict data policy uh rules and regulations and they're actually governed i mean there are so many companies out there there is no governance no you know yes it's fine to say we do not share your data but the bottom line is you you need accountability uh in the same way that everyone looks to teachers for accountability i mean i'll add in some things that i would typically look for but maybe other people in the chat box can add in some questions or some things that you would look for and for me of course you want it to be recommended from colleagues you want it to be reasonably priced and you want all the safeguarding features considered you want it to integrate with all your kind of current bits of software your single site single license fees though and set sign-ons and i guess you really want to know that's going to make a difference to your kids but it's going to be quite easy for teachers to use and you can get that support you know the training that you need and it's regularly updated so that would be my kind of headlines um i don't know if anyone else has got any other glaring omissions or any particular questions on um what you should look for when you want a bit of software but um you know i've worked with cast seven months it covers all those things um so any any questions we've been going 15 minutes just um if anyone wants to unmute their microphone just ask a question um or grab a quick sip of water uh and some calls for 30 seconds uh while we're just digest what would you know the general introduction yeah i i think it's also important to note that you know especially for teachers you know uh with it sometimes teachers do get scared of it especially if you're not in that in the it background and the way cast has been developed is to make it really really easy for everyone to use i mean you know there's no point in developing software which is complicated i mean you know the whole idea of CAS is is that we teach typing quickly uh the students learn and then they move on they actually implement what they've learned and uh you know the monitoring for teachers in the background has to be simple has to be easy and quick um keen you say um you know it's tried and tested an approved method could you elaborate on on what that what you mean by that sure um well uh if i can ask you can move on the slide so so basically the the CAS course uses an accelerated learning teaching method now this actually incorporates brain balance and muscle memory so what we do is we teach the 80s keys using just five scientifically designed phrases uh now they're specifically structured and i'll show you this when i demonstrate the course live shortly but the method was developed through research by the same team of experts responsible for producing over 55 rsa nbq level computer and office skills courses the product was then trial and tested by 18 000 students per year for over for over three years in 300 private training centres across the uk and it was only released to market when there was some some huge um hurdles across and that hurdle was 93 of the students learning to type now we are talking young adults uh from the age of 16 to 18 learned to touch type the 80s keys within 90 minutes which is where the phrase came from uh the the course was then taken i mean obviously this was through huge investment with the three eye group uh the course was then taken to the open university they were so impressed with it they trialed it uh they wrote a white paper on it and they were so impressed with the effectiveness of it they deployed it to all 90 000 students each year for over 14 years and the white paper is actually on our white on our website for everyone to to to read if they want to keen i'm going to push you can we get a demo so we can see um how it works sure no problem at all so i'm just gonna i'll start to ask some questions while you load that up so if i stop sharing my screen and you can sure okay so i'm going to set this to default settings uh just so that it's easier for everyone here but uh if we move on so obviously we we saw the course through the uk and the us we have a lot of schools in in both regions uh i'll select the sound but i'll turn the sound off uh just purely to save uh text actually appearing on the screen um and basically so this is the main menu it's very very simple and it's been designed to be used independently and without supervision it's especially been designed not to overload the working memory now what we have to remember is we're going to teach typing skills we want to teach them effectively we don't want to bring in loads of uh any adverts we don't want to bring in any distractions we just want to focus on the core and then teach the students how to type now the course is multi-sensory so engages the major senses of sight sound and touch simultaneously which is why it's so effective and it is very very deliberately presented in a very simple manner there's a huge amount of research which is what i've told you which has gone into this but it's it's it's imperative so that from your point of view all you have to do is minimal teacher intervention you tell your student to start at the top and work through each module in order so basically if i start at the top module flying start now each of these is literally two to three minutes long they only need to go into flying start once they won't need to go into after that and uh basically it introduces the navigational tool it gives you a few little tips on how to use cares shortcuts for example using the backwards and the forward arrows uh instead of using the the mouse if that's what you prefer to do and importantly there's also a module here on posture uh regarding rsi while sitting at a computer now we've actually got a city and guilds course and they actually developed this course for us and they didn't want us to only teach typing skills they actually wanted us to teach students about the importance of sitting properly about rsi and what happens you know and and it's so easily avoided and so we were so impressed with that module we actually put it into all the courses which is basically what you're seeing here so it's just a few screenshots which which give you an idea of that so i'll come on to demonstrate the navigational tool shortly uh but so so that is the first module and the second module the basics is actually the most important part now this is actually where the student learns to touch type the hz keys using our five structured phrases now the phrases may seem a little bit bizarre but please remember they've been scientifically structured to teach certain letters on the keyboard using certain fingers now the first phrase sorry i have i lost my sharing screen apologies i'll just go back to it okay i'm back there okay so so the first phrase is designed to teach the first two fingers and the thumbs so uh if you look at your keyboard you will be able to see the first two fingers and thumbs which is okay for that phrase and then as we move on it's a gradual introduction of other fingers uh and it's building up the full 20 odd six letters of the alphabet there and at the end of that there's a small little test which actually proves to you that you can actually touch type the hz keys now each of these sections takes typically 15 to 20 minutes to do that's all it takes and you know for teachers obviously we give school a lesson guide so we would suggest depending on the child if it's uh uh primary age then we'll say you know break it down into weekly sessions or daily sessions or obviously for homeschooling uh we'll say you know possibly one session a day or it's for the teachers to decide uh whichever is uh preferring uh obviously the courses used at lunchtime school clubs as well as after school clubs so so basically uh we we say to teachers you know break it down into modules it doesn't all have to be done in one foul swoop but for the older children we say you know the 16 year old pluses do all this in one foul swoop it's only 90 minutes but what it's doing is it's teaching you where your fingers should go and then once we've built a little bit of muscle memory we then go on to develop that further but what i'm going to do is i'm just actually going to go into the first phrase to just give you a basic uh overview so this is the navigational tool this is the adult navigational tool there's a junior casper for for junior uh children and schools get both editions for free uh what i say for free included as well as obviously the dyslexia and the um standard edition and if we move on here to the main uh uh what is this the main menu the main interface sorry i'm i'm running along too quickly here but uh pull me back if i'm going too fast for us uh but this is the main menu so as you can see the the the screen is divided with presented with two screens at the top because it's done that way specifically because the eye travel from left to right so it keeps the head looking up all the time and as you can see the cursor is actually moving so it's ready to type in that inbox uh from uh the off now cas has evolved over the course of last year or two historically uh that typing area would not open until the audio had finished but uh we've adapted because uh we were told um or research has shown that uh kids nowadays they're born with laptops they're born with iPads in their hands so they want to actually get on moving they don't necessarily want to and want to listen to all the audio and the difference with children and adults is children are not scared to try adults as we get older we get scared to push buttons but with cas you mustn't be scared to push buttons uh the bottom line is that comes with muscle memory and in the stages after so another interesting feature of the course is obviously there's a keyboard on screen at all times now this is really quite important because this naturally encourages the student to always look up uh built into the keyboard is a key guide so if you click anywhere on the key guide a set of hands up here and if you're not sure uh which uh finger presses which letter you just type the letter and the the finger will uh press to that letter obviously i've got the audio off at the moment if the audio was on it would actually sound out which letter keep down presses which key and then to go back to the course simply just press anywhere on that same key guide again and you're back to exactly the position which you left off king can we just let people hear the software just announce the letters sure again or e okay so i'll go back to sound off um so yep so on the right here we have the navigational tool so clicking on the beak will repeat what has just been said going left will go back a screen uh clicking on the right will move forward and obviously clicking on the feet will actually take you out of the course uh there's a little help menu down here so the help menu will give you a guide of actually what i've actually just run through without having to come out of the course and look at the course guides sound on and off will literally uh if you want to work for example in the library setting or whatever and uh you can just click there again it saves you having to go out and there's a little green bar progress bar at the bottom which shows how far you are through the course the slow mode button over here on the right a lot of our teachers use that especially in the special needs department they ask their students to use that mode and basically that is original version of CAS whereby you have to listen to the audio before that typing window will open but that again is down to preference and it's just purely a question of uh uh the individual's preference uh so if I move on through CAS you can see uh on the right screen over here what we're doing is we're building up that phrase if might jive and when we reach the end of the phrase uh which only takes as I said 15 to 20 minutes uh basically it just outlines to you that you've now learned eight keys on the keyboard and to take a short break if you need one before you move on after each phrase there's a little um animation designed to encourage the kids and the the the junior phrases that the the animation is a little bit more risque and would you believe I think statistics which we have which show the majority of students even in secondary always go on to the junior phrases first they seem to have more fun with them um so as I said the other uh phrases simply build up so by the time you finished last extra quiz you literally can type all uh characters on the keyboard and then you're presented with a little test CAS will now measure your ability to touch type the A to Z keys you can repeat it as often as you wish but don't look at the keys if you make mistakes on the set I'm just going to go through this quickly I'm going to tell you something else also interesting about CAS which uh City and Guilds were very very pleased with um through all the learning modules you can actually make mistakes as you're actually learning um but through all the uh testing uh modules you cannot make a mistake you have to get the word completely right before you can move on and this is what's still a bit of muscle memory so here we can see the letters which I was actually having problems which I made mistakes on there but the letters A to Z so I can either return back to the basics to uh deal with the uh phrases which deal with that or I can just carry on uh so it's it's sorry I'll just turn that sound off go down to you again use preference now interestingly the course is designed to be worked in a non-linear fashion so the whole idea is you can go back and and throw uh to enhance or to to to re uh relearn any phrases whichever you're having any problems with uh the next free uh module just do it is uh basically offering extra uh further exercises with additional vocabulary and if I just quickly forward through here uh you'll be able to see some of the additional vocabulary uh popping in here and what we have to remember is what we need to do is build muscle memory and this is key for this section the just do it uh it works especially well for students especially with Dixlexia because what's happening now is we're ingraining spellings to memory so what that does is it reduces the likelihood of transposing or misspelling words what we're trying to achieve is that spellings simply become a series of finger movements and pattern on the keyboard if you can play the piano you'll be able to learn to type very very quickly you know uh if you play the piano or drive a car as an analogy you know you just play without even realizing what we're doing and that's exactly what we're actually uh doing with CAS and the rest I'll be honest with you uh the least used module of all of them because this is where we learn the shift the number and the punctuation keys uh generally we tend to find the students will uh learn the ATZ keys obviously they'll learn how to put the shift on as well because that that makes learning very very quick as well and uh generally they'll be typing at 50 to 60 words per minute just using that the students who really want to get onto a different level uh will learn the numbers and the punctuation keys and they'll go through this module finally uh this is the the last module which is called speed builder and this is where we uh increase speed and accuracy now if if you've noticed at no point through any of the learning modules are we worrying about speed unlike other typing tutors you know you maybe have to get a certain badge or you have to get a certain word per minute before you can move on to the next uh module CAS we don't do that uh during all the learning learning is learning what we're trying to do is get the thing we're we're weedling out all the bad habits because everyone typed and they're all typing incorrectly so we need to get rid of those bad habits and we need to train new habits so all the learning modules and bear in mind each one of those is only 15 to 20 minutes long are designed to get the the fingers moving the right direction because obviously dexterity is the key issue here uh the first two fingers and the thumbs lots of dexterity but the little thing is on the and the ring finger sometimes really quite difficult to move so that is why that uh the learning uh you can progress through the learning by with making mistakes you're a teacher you know you're all teachers you know that if you can constantly wrap students or uh you know they get disheartened they get um they start to look elsewhere so through the learning modules it's important to learn through mistakes and this has all come through the research which was developed 15 to 20 years ago as a quick demo of this screen sure uh is it literally you would have to type it's okay okay so so basically i'll put the sound back on so it so if i make a mistake it'll make a sound so i i can't move on to the next letter until i've actually typed in the correct word now that's really important because obviously we're building muscle memory and we're ingrained spelling uh at the end of each phrase i mean the student can actually see their accuracy and worth per minute on a score up here but all this data the reason there are 20 phrases in speedbuilder is because that's what has been designed to build muscle memory so after 20 phrases that information is then saved sorry in the my results section up here and simultaneously that data is then saved in the teacher's admin panel so teachers can see the progress of their students and how they're doing and that's pretty much the course i mean obviously each user panel has user guides which can be seen here uh has a result panel and obviously you can change your preferences and you can access the course as well through it so that is pretty much the course from a user's perspective the teachers do have an admin panel which i won't go through now but we do have screenshot demos as well as uh you're more than welcome to join me if my own webinars i think it's frozen there so i'll try and get my slides back on um and there we go um okay so i've got a couple of questions um to pose to keen and then uh i'll take some from the chat box and from everyone else so um a couple of things uh you there's a there's a tournament isn't there so on the slides uh folks these are just the walkthrough that keen has just gone through so we're going to send you all these to kind of uh support um the webinar recordings you can have a little look through these later but keen um tell me more about the the tournament and the city and guild's license so here's the touch type okay now the tournament's really quite key and we we actually put brought this on board because of from uh request from a couple of head teachers and what they really wanted to do was to really engage the parents and encourage the students to learn i mean there's lots of typing software programs out there which you know teachers will monitor or you know you can't monitor or or you know if you leave to students on devices you know will they do it won't they do it but what we wanted to do is to really encourage both schools uh teachers as well as students to actually engage so the whole idea of the typing tournament is look let's get as many kids and schools involved as we can uh the winning school will get a free renewal of their CAS license they'll receive a CAS touch typing trophy they'll be showcased on the website and celebrated on media etc the student will get a free uh obviously a winning certificate and if 14 years or older they'll get a free or they'll get a city guild's license and we will hold this license for students until they're at the age should they need to but this has proven really quite key we started for the first year this year and um we've had some excellent uh feedback um the new typing tournament will start in september i think the the student who's leading at the moment is from the school called Shrewsbury and he's a master fantastic total of 65 words per minute which is not bad for a student who started to learn um well he actually started uh late last year and it was quite encouraging especially from our point of view as well to to know that uh so um the city and guilds there's a question in the chat box i'm going to read from caroline um so is the city and guilds accredited when you do the course or is it something else is the is the question right okay no the city and guilds that should once you've done the course and basically once you've done the course the student will actually get in well uh there are there are two options there's an individual option and we've now got an invigilated version now the invigilated version is was designed we've got special approval and the authority from city and guilds to do that whereas the teacher will sign a declaration to confirm that all the that you know the environment is correct because generally for city and guilds we need to be assured that the student who's taking the test is actually taking the test so you know by default we can now push that over to the teachers obviously they then don't all they need to do is to um load in the student's date of birth because for city and guilds the student has to be 14 years of age minimum uh now all the teaching will do is they'll uh confirm that uh the environment is correct that the student is the correct student taking the test and they will actually uh authorize that student so once the student passes that that module and they can take this test as many times as they want it's not as it's not just a once only uh so once that student has passed the test literally the teacher will generate the certificate for that student the minute that that certificate is generated the student gets email the copy or the teacher gets emailed a copy and we also get emailed a copy and when we get that copy we then notify city and guilds city and guilds will then submit a digital badge for that student unfortunately takes about 28 days for it to happen uh but you know currently they're running about between anyway between five and seven days so just a question for you and then we'll where we'll go on to costs for everybody um question from Helene um is it a so in terms of the software do you need download it to your desktop like a client install or is it something you log into online right we've got two options sorry was it Cindy this is from Helene Helene Helene uh right we've got two options the preferred option is the online edition where we host uh the software and the cloud and literally all students can log in from home or school or or wherever they've got an internet connection so that seems to be the preferred version we do have a download version and we do have a scorn version as well so we have several schools who use the scorn version uh which then integrates into their mood or the scorn version also is very popular for the universities uh but it just depends on uh on your environments uh which you have there at the school but generally I'd say probably 90 95 percent of schools use the online okay another question King um how long does it take to get the skill now I know that's a hard question because if it's a uh primary student or a secondary student um how often it happens during the week um have you got a rule of thumb uh well uh the course has been designed to teach the A to D keys in 90 minutes now I'm not going to lie to you and say to you're going to be touch typing 40 words per minute but what you have to bear in mind that typing the two fingers you can generally type it between 20 to 25 words per minute now we have a free typing test on our website which unfortunately Nikki I believe someone else hasn't been able to do but we'll try and sort that out but basically 70 percent of people who take that test and we have roughly about a thousand tests take on that within every couple of months 70 percent of the people who take that test type it the average word per minute which is 17 or 18 words per minute now that's quite horrendous now that's taking out of the equation all the people who abandon tests that's also taking out of the equation all the people who type it over 35 words per minute so if you know typing in 35 words per minute is typing with both hands and with both with both hands and fingers on all the keys now generally as a rule of thumb young adults will learn to type significantly well and improve on the on the proof within four to five days but that is obviously dedicated young individuals who want to learn um the whole way the course has been designed is to to be able to break it down I mean obviously from a young adult or a young adult learners perspective we say do that whole course the basics in one module 90 minutes and then it's a it's a question of practice but generally as a rule of thumb I mean even sitting gills um they've assured the course they've uh we've also got a cpd certification on the course as well and you know four hours learning minimum and we're enhanced on what we were pushing on to cost now keen so let everyone know and the licenses available and the costs okay so so what I've done here is I've only shown you the online courses obviously these are up to date and you'll be able to see on the website if you wanted to score more a download we do sell downloads into a lot of the councils who buy for children where they're giving laptops to and but typically they will buy through resellers or they're welcome for example Norwich buy through us Yorkshire buy through resellers so you know each to is to suit each individual specific so the reason we've got smaller licenses purely for some schools who want to use has only for their special needs department but obviously we've got a a multitude of schools who obviously middle schools will will get licenses for up to 500 students and whole school roles is for up to a thousand so it can work out to as little as 60 70 pence per student please bear in mind all those prices include vat so you get all the vat back with regards to the city and guilds obviously a huge proportion of the city and guilds we actually have to pay to them for the issuance of the assured certificate and badge but what we've done is we've got two options now because we've had a lot of teachers coming to us because they actually want to take this as part of their o-level digital skills learning so so what we've done is this has only been ready for launch earlier and I think it was late last week and it's really dramatically reduced the pricing down so learn on the CAS learning modules and then just buy I can just chip in with a ruler thumb so obviously as a prominent blogger I've had lots of companies come to me over the years with software and things like that and when I was a deputy head buying in licenses for my teachers or for my pupils kind of broad ruler thumb was anything between three to five pound per per pupil or per teacher so when you look at CAS's numbers here you know as keen said it's coming in below a pound per pupil which I think exceptional value really so I hope that kind of helps and Keith if we just kind of wrap things up for everyone we've got a slide here in terms of I had a question earlier I think from Nikki mentioned the company Nessie Fingers sure what makes CAS different okay well Nikki I never go against the competition because I think that'd be very unfair for me to do so but all I'd ask you to do is I mean we have a free trial of CAS on our site you will see the difference Nessie Fingers is very much gay to a very young age group which is pretty much where it's geared to CAS is geared to students of all ages so we're starting from six years onwards please sort of do bear in mind we've got an accelerated learning teaching method now what I'd also like to to make because obviously I don't like I like hitting the big questions straight on because you know that's what you want to hear you don't want to waste time obviously there are the softwares out there bbc dance mat you know I can quite safely speak about as well as others but you know what you get with CAS is because you're paying for us everything is secure with completely ICO.org registered so you know we we actually succumb to our higher power we we're accountable there will be no advertising no distractions no malware where both windows as well as Apple developers to protect all the software all student data is protected please remember we've got our accelerated teaching method which generally takes 90 minutes to learn the age of their keys a lot of these other softwares there's no you know yes you know they have lots of fantastic videos or whatever but bottom line is you don't want to spend hours upon hours upon hours on software teaching typing skills and you're backed by research which is really important to do so there's the the kind of case study page if I just put your website on key which is there if you tell me where to press and just point things out to people in terms of the free trial for example okay so if you could go to this for education button please Roth this one here okay yeah and then it's okay so yeah please scroll down to under your video there okay in the test yeah free problem and and above it there's a case studies button so yeah for a free trial we'll give you a free 14-day trial so please you know teachers if you if please take the opportunity log on get a free trial and learn to type yourselves as well please I mean that could be my the little thing which I could give to you so so please do that and then please do have a look and read through these case studies because some video testimonials on there as well which are really quite quite impressive and you know and please do think about cares not just for your SCN Dexlexic students but please do think about cares for the whole classroom the reason we developed it so specifically as we have done was to that everyone in the class could actually learn together there's no differentiation what we're hoping to do next year is is that at the moment schools get two versions the teacher can choose the standard of the Dexlexic tradition but hopefully from next year there'll be just one version which is what we do for all our further higher education and our business courses there's just one version which is which opens with a preference screen we've had some fantastic fantastic reviews all we need to do is we need to get the word out there and if you want to see how how good the actual course is and wrap it up there and so there's loads of case studies you know where the free trial is under my mugshot on the site and I think that's pretty much it I think we've covered everything we'll send you the slides I'll decompress the video take about an hour or so and I'll send it over through Eventbrite and if you've got any questions kind of just stay on the line and unmute yourself and then Keen and I will be happy to answer questions for the next five minutes or so otherwise you're free to go and thank you for joining me here yet again thank you Keen for your time. No but Ross can I just say one more thing with regards to CAD as opposed to other softwares we're the only ones which have got all these certifications for example we're with NACE we're with BCIRC sitting girls on here and we've won several awards within the last year so that that is a big big different differentiator. Okay any questions folks unmute yourself otherwise feel free to hang up and again thank you my name is Ross and thanks for joining us. Any questions? Justine can you hold your hand or Caroline? Yeah sorry I've put some in the chat box but so I work in a huge school I'll work in more than one huge school actually but I work in Blackpool and they've got about 510 and 11 and 750 and 789 so they can only do the City and Guilds for 10 and 11 is that right firstly? Yes so we have to start at them I mean basically we've done it so that if the teachers can start introducing the children to typing say the year before they can only take the actual City and Guilds test when they're 14 So from that I think that was Caroline's that's where we need to be it was actually 15 years of age but we got special dispensation from City Guilds literally only probably two to three weeks ago through a request from another teacher it's I think it's the Griffin or Lear Academy who has started in September. So you pay the cost of the child's learning how to do it the four hours minimum you say and then there'd be a price on top to get the City and Guilds certificate. Yes so the cheapest way to do it would be to yes buy the school license or for how many students you want get them proficient, the newest teacher will be able to see how they're monitoring their progress and basically all the for example the testing within the City and Guilds module is actually in the course so if they practice in the course on the on the long phrases that is what they will be presented within the City and Guilds so there's not going to be any surprises there so that is a very very good point of using learning type of CAS but obviously the reason we've also separated is because teachers have actually also said to us you know but kids that have learned to type and they like to do the City and Guilds so you know so that's why we've separated it as well. Hi and my next question I suppose is if you are going to go across a mat would that reduce the price? Yes across mats we've actually got a fantastic offer at the moment we've got two or three mats coming on board in September we've got one who started last month so yeah I mean it basically is 50% off the price. Okay thank you. It's designed to make it very very attractive Caroline. Yeah thank you Caroline is Justine still there with the question or anybody else? Either use the chat box or unmute yourself on your video should be able to mute. Can I just ask so would we get invoiced separately then for the City and Guilds certificate? Yes that's how it would work sorry Sarah yeah Sarah so so yes I mean you can either buy it through the website or if you just get in touch with us we will then invoice you separately for that. Okay but yeah there are no issues with that we don't have any problems with give for example giving you if you wanted a license for 10 students or 100 students we've got no issues with assigning you the license and then invoicing on after. Okay that's great thank you. Thank you Sarah. Anybody else? I think we might have lost Justine let me just double check anybody else with questions otherwise this is your last chance so I'll send the video at the slides in about an hour or so time please check your event right. My name's Ross I've been your host Keen thank you very much for sharing your great piece of software I think just to conclude regardless of being locked down it's a great piece of software I think you'll agree is exceptional value and in a period of time where we're all our devices I think it's quite an important skill to learn and what Keen would have demonstrated is it's backed by lots of research and neuroscience and memory and the way the platform setup is very simple to use and I think we'd all benefit from testing ourselves in terms of our touch our touch type and speed and skill. So I'll finish there thank you everybody thank you Keen. Thank you very much Ross thank you everyone for joining and thank you everyone for joining. Bye now. Bye bye.