 Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique house, it's your boy, ECEO and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Mr. Mako, what's going on? None of you know my dad, oh, I'm gone. Man, hey, man, listen, man, I came down here to meet this guy right here, to be honest, which we down in Houston, Texas. This guy right here, man, he was in a movie that premiered last night, one of the leading roles. And I wanted to come down and meet him before this even happened, but it didn't happen. But God made a way, how they say God did. Look, I'm here now. Check it, man, propane's in the building. Man, what a dope happy video. That dope intro that you ever heard in your life. It's like, it thought I was Steve Harvey the way I brought that with me. Thank you for joining the show, man. I'm glad to be here. Same, man, you wanted the guys, man, that, hey, man, when I seen you in that movie last night, that was your first film? Yeah, my first movie. That's good, man. Because you was convincing as hell. Thank you, man. Yeah, you convinced like crazy last night. Yeah, I believe you, you that nigga, you was a grime in it. I ain't gonna say no more, I can't get a movie. Yeah, that's why when I saw him, I didn't really like him because of that movie. My mom, I took my mom with me after the movie. She was just like, I don't even know that song. You know what I'm saying? That was dope, man. That was a super dope experience. I mean, as we was walking out of the theater, I was getting side-eyed by a lot of people, like, you know what I'm saying? That was dope. That's hard, man. They just show you did a good job. Yeah, man, I appreciate it. I didn't show how talented you are because when people can play a role that's not normally them, that show your acting skills, you know. Definitely, definitely. Because I watch people like Teraji and when I see her play a lot of different roles and the majority of roles are similar. Different. I'm like, nah, she like that in real person. There's no way you can't be like that in real person if you keep playing a certain type of role. But if you can switch it up and play different type of roles, you're like, uh-uh, you're just talented. Thank you, thank you, thank you, man. I studied. So you did acting? No, I didn't at all. But so I've always wanted to do acting. But at the same time, a lot of my videos, I try to like put some substance in them so I act out a lot in my videos. But at the same time, when I knew the role that I was gonna play for this movie, I studied characters like that. So I studied Rico from paying for a camera. Even though I've seen the movie, me and times I really studied just him. And then I studied T.I. from Takas, you know? So it was like all similar characters. So I just really kind of studied it through my life. But for the most part, it was just kind of natural. I just felt like I kind of was in rapper mode, you know what I'm saying during shooting the movie. But it was a double experience. It was something new. I'm definitely taking that super, super serious. I want to get into way more movies. Let me say this fun fact. I was at your premiere. All right. Right? Let's be. I was at the Takas premiere in Vegas too, baby. It's always up. That's dope. That's dope. We was there, right? It was there. When Paul was living and everything. We hoarded, man. I told you. So that's a fun fact. Go ahead. Watching yourself on a big screen for the first time after you've acted, right? You know how you don't expect, you don't know what to expect. You see it on there. Right. What did you expect? How was the outcome? And if you're anything like, because you said you're a person that went and practiced the role. So I know you are a perfectionist somewhat. Definitely. From the main site you said that. Did you see your flaws? And how you can make it better? Yeah, so that's like my gift from my curse. So the whole movie, it was hard to enjoy. So I stayed for both shows. So the second one was a little bit easier for me. That first one, I'm just watching everything like, damn, I shouldn't have did this. Man, I shouldn't have did that. If I would have did it like this, even though people were telling me like, damn, are you killing me? I'm still just looking at everything. I'm like, damn, I wish I could get another chance to go back and do this. And then so you got to think, we were shooting the movie for a couple months. So as it started to go, I started to get better and better and more comfortable. But the very first day, which just so happens to be my first scene, I can tell like that was the, you know what I'm saying? The stage fright and little bit of butterflies, you know what I'm saying? Even though I thought it was cool, I knew it could have been way better. I wish it could have been like how it was through the duration of the movie, how it was in the beginning, you know what I'm saying? But it, I was pleased with all of it, man. And the whole time we was on set, man, I was the one who people would do it. I go over there to the directors. Hey, bro, what you think? How you think you think I should do it like this? Is it like, nah, bro, you're killing it. You're doing good. I'm like, man, don't be telling me that. Don't be lying to me, bro. Cause I want it to be good. You know what I'm saying? So let me know. But throughout the whole process of the movie, everybody on set was just telling me like, damn, you're shocking us. You're surprising us. We not, you know what I'm saying? We didn't expect this to be like this. So I was kind of comforting going into the, to the premiere. I felt like I did, I did a good job. So just to see everybody rocking with it, that was, that was super dope. Dirty third, what was the name of it? Something else. Dirty third, next generation. The next generation. This movie is the one that's been consecutively coming out right. So well, actually the last one came out 20 years ago. This was a movie when I was young. This was like a classic Houston movie. You know what I'm saying? This is like, I'm bought it to Louisiana. You know what I'm saying? Like this shit was huge. All the rappers was in it. Slim Thug was in it. I think he was like 19, 20 years old. You know what I'm saying? Wow. All the rappers, Scarface was in part two. Everybody was in these movies. So this is a, this is a series of, that we was always fans of, if you was from this Houston culture, DJ school was in it. You know what I'm saying? So we always loved it. As a kid that growing up, that's something I, in every one of the million years, thought I would have been doing a dirty third. But as a kid wanting to be a rapper and you want to be like these people, that was something I always wanted to do. And I always tell people that, like I ain't, my plans wasn't to do the dirty third, but my plans was to do some movies. So it just so happens to come full circle, it just, that was just dumb. That's live, bro. That's live. I like that, man. You know what I'm saying? Cause you gotta realize, man, you know, when you get to do something that you, you never thought it could have happened, but then it happens and you've been knowing that it was big. That's hard, man. And it's for the culture. Come on. Man, that's our people, man. We need to show that this is the history. That's why I do this. Because we want to leave a legacy. We want to leave something our people can look at and say, you know what? 20 years later, like you said, you remember when boss talk, such and such? Yeah, propane was on boss talk. I remember that episode. That's what this is for, man. That's what it's about. So, man, thank you for giving us the opportunity even to come down here and even witness what we just saw the other night. And I just want to say, man, you did a hell of a job in there, man. And, hey, man, that's what it's all about. And then, Noah been here today. We got a lot of the cash. We were right here, baby. G.S.O.Fab was on here today. Say, man, it's going down, man. I'm loving it. But the way you talk about this acting, it almost sounds like you have, are you gaining more of a passion for acting than maybe even for the music? No, I don't say that. I ain't gonna say more than the music, but I'll tell you this. So the whole last year was a process. So I was working on my album. I was shooting this movie and I was executive producing the soundtrack for the movie. And I was 100% full-time dad. So by myself. So it was like- By yourself? By myself. How old is your child? She eight. Eight. So you're single dad? Yeah. Wow. So that was a, man, it was like a whirlwind all last year. So now we at a point now where everything is coming out, everything happening. So everything kind of paying off. But to answer your question with the movies, I'm gonna always love the music. Cause the music is what got me there. You know what I'm saying? If it wasn't for me being a rapper, I probably wouldn't be right there. So that's always gonna be my love and that's fun. But right right now, if somebody wants to tell me, you could do this movie right now with Denzel Washington or you could do this album with, just say no, that's one of my favorite albums of all time. I might wanna go do that movie with Denzel just because like that just was an experience there. And now to see how everybody reacted to it at that premiere, that's like, damn, like, you can really move people out of this. You know what I'm saying? So, and I'm still gonna love music. I wanna do both. But I'm just saying right now at this moment, cause I'm still riding on that hop from that premiere. I would probably go do a big movie more than doing a big album right now. So, okay, we jumped into things a little bit. Let's take it back. We'll take it all the way back. Where, okay. Now, Haram. Haram Clark. You messed me up. Haram Clark. Houston, Texas. That's where you're from. All right, South Side. Okay, so what was it like growing up there and were you raised with siblings, your mom, your dad? Tell us about growing up. So, yeah, I was raised, me, my mom and my older brother. And I got a younger sister who is a year younger than me, but she was adopted by my grandma at like six months. And so, it was just us. And then I ended up moving. When I was like five, I moved with my aunt in Longview. Why? That's in East Texas. Why? I guess it's financial situation. Okay. Say, nigga, wait a minute. Yeah. Hold up, nigga. You said East Texas. Oh, yeah? What, nigga? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm in the woods, nigga. For real, you down in Longview? Yeah, I got ties for real for real. So, I stayed down there until the third grade. Then I came back with my mom and then I actually went back. The end of the living, I graduated from Longview. You like it down there? I mean, I got roots down there. I mean, I'm from Houston, but I love Longview. Like, that's second home. Longview, Lobos? Yeah, I'm a Lobo. I ain't even know, man. For sure, for sure. Yeah, nah. Shout out to East Texas, man. Trio's talking, no peel talking. You better put that one on. Yeah, yeah, for sure. That's hard, man. That's my second home. So, you graduated Longview, Texas. Yeah. Man, so you had to go, how long did you stay down there that year, that last year? So, I stayed, it was a year and a half. That's crazy. Yeah, I went down there because my mom ended up going to go work for TSA and I was getting in a bunch of goddamn trouble down here. So, I went to go stay with my aunt for that last year and a half, which was dope, but I think that probably saved my life, bro. You know what I'm saying? Because at that time, we was wildin', bro. We was like, we had a whole ring and it was still in cause. We had a real crew. And they said it was on the news, it was still in cause, like heavy break-ins on the southwest side of Houston, that was us. So, we was wildin' and I think around that time, right before I went out there, we was like, I was kind of toned down because I had moved with my best friend. I wouldn't even stand with my mama. And when she ended up leaving, she had just threw the ideal out there and shit, I was just like, man, it don't matter. It just, I'm just going for a semester. I thought I was just going for a semester. So, I got down there for that last semester of my junior year. And we had a cold ass basketball team. You know what I'm saying? I ended up getting cool with some nicks down there, like super, super close with them. Next thing you know, I told my mama, I'm gonna stay, I'm just gonna stay down here for my senior year. And that was super dope, though. Wow. So, I liked that, man, because I was one, when I was young, I was in 13 years old, I was out here in Houston over there. Shout out to Fat Daddy and Hickey, man, over there by Smiley. Yeah, with the Smiley, yeah. Yeah, I was over there with them boys, man, off with Philly and all that. I used to be over there on Riverwood, River Trail. Well, yeah, River Trail, but it was, I was young to go up here and do some parking and all that, I never forget it. I was a young crazy nigga out here, hanging out with some crazy niggas. They love to go to skate rings and fighting boxing all the time. So, man, you are, that song Gangsta, is that song, was that the soundtrack? That's what I thought. How was it making that you slim? Who all on there? Boston George and O.T.B. Fastline and Shaz DJ XO, you made the beat. Yeah, so I always wanted to be that dude behind the boys. And then D-Rick, shout out to my boy D-Rick. It was just one of the moments where he gave me the opportunity to put it together because he felt like I was one of the few people in this city who can bridge the gap between the OGs and the legends and the young niggas. Like everybody rocked with me. So that was just something I wanted to do. So I was just putting together different combinations. That's hard. You know what I'm saying? And we came out with some live ass music. So you got the zeroes and the slim thugs. At the same time, you got the Fastlines and you got the O.T.B. Fastline. I mean, you got the DJ XOs, you got the GGO Kurtz. All of them, you know what I'm saying? All the youngsters and we got the OGs all in the mix. You know what I'm saying? We came out with some live ass music. That's hard, man. You know, when I first came down to the first thing I thought about not to jump subjects on you, but I made a few phone calls. I'm like, man, what's the temperature like down there? You know, we lost takeoff down there. So when you just look at Houston now, you know, within the last month, it's like, okay, I got to watch how I move it on and what's going on over there. But I got to make sure I check everything out and bring my wife down here. So when I heard about that, it just messed me up. So what were you at when this happened? Like were you in the city or were you? Yeah, I was in the city. I actually got a phone call as soon as it happened. One of my partners was out there and he called me and told me. And I was like, no, bro, that some shit just don't even seem real. You know what I'm saying? And then I've met takeoff a few times. Like I shot my video for two rounds with Rich on the corn in Atlanta. And it was just on the come up and they came, all three of them came to the video shoot, shot a nigga number love, man. They stayed the whole time at the shoot, like really rocked with me. So, and he always been a cool dude from where I knew him. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. And I know he had a cool relationship with my brother, sauce Walker. Okay. And so around that time when walking them was first coming up, they would be around them. So I will, you know, see them around them a lot. And you know, every time I'd seen dude, it was like, you know what I'm saying? I think it was just an unfortunate situation on rich and peace to him, man. It's a precious family, but you know what I'm saying? Like, I think it was just an unfortunate situation. You know what I'm saying? That could happen anyway. How do a propane move? Like at night, whenever you done, or if you've done a show, if you're meeting somebody or whatever you're doing, are you staying and doing different extra activities? Are you leaving? Are you just hanging lounging? How do you move when it's in the city? I'm just asking. Because like when you guys, man, you guys got people looking at y'all, millions of people, they know propane, you know what I'm saying? You ain't no regular nigga, man. All right. So I'm just asking you, how do you, how do you avoid the situations, I guess, to say, the easy way of saying it? Like, do you be out there like that? Are you a street cat that's always out there? Nah, I mean... Be real with me, man. Nah, I'm be one thousand. Nah, I mean, if I'm somewhere, I'm with the homies, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm with the homies and we gonna move the right way. Whatever the right way is, somebody else, my right way is we gonna protect ourselves, you know what I'm saying? So, but for the most part, bro, I try to not just put myself in environments where that gotta be my main focus all the time, you know what I'm saying? And if I gotta go in that type of environment, whether it be for work, business or something like that, and I'm gonna make sure I move the right way, and we gonna do what we gotta do, and we gonna move around, like, I've been doing this long before I was a rapper, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? I've been out here, and I don't mean just like in the streets, I'm saying just out here, living this life, Houston raised me, you know what I'm saying? So I've been here, you know what I'm saying? Like, Vince Young is like my brother. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, bro, so... Shout out. Shout out. Hell of a shout out. Man, that's a hundred o'clock legend. That's the Texas legend, that's the American legend. And that's one of the religious niggas I know. That's where he from? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, he used to live with me. You know what I'm saying? Wow. Yeah, so... We gotta get into that. That nigga, that we eating all the damn chips and bread. Big nigga, you know? He the true man. Big quarterback nigga. Yeah, he's a older young guy. He older than him. Yeah. So, but I just say that to say, and anybody who know who got a partner, who done been on at some point, like, you living life, you know what I'm saying? So long when I was broke, I ain't had no money, and I was young. My brother and him, them niggas was balling, and so I done been doing this for a very, very long time. So, no, none of this shit excites me. So when it's really time to get to work, I'm gonna do what I gotta do. You know what I mean? My partners we gonna kick and we gonna move around. Like, ain't nothing new under the sun. So I just don't put myself in the environments most of the time. Well, you know, a nigga gotta be on his PZQs 24-7. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's not a good way to live. No, it's not, man. You, like I said, you a solid dude, man. When you come down to the music, man, I just want to get into how you even got in the rap. Like, what was the driving force and factor? Man, I've been rapping since like the fourth grade, bro. Really? I think it was just, I think it was just the influence of what was going on in the city, like with Lil' Kiki and Zero, a lot of them. But I think like the first rappers that I kind of like really, really wanted to be like was probably Bone Thugs and Homie, and then it was Mousy. Yeah, who's hitting that Bone Thugs and Homie? That was something that, oh, Gator Man told me that when I was interviewing. Said, you know, that was popular when he did that song. That's crazy. So you liked the Bone Thugs and Homie? Yeah, then it was Master P, then I just became a, like I was no limit stand, bro. Really? You like Mac? I interviewed Mac. All of them, bro. K.L., you knew all them boys? Man, you couldn't tell me I wasn't. No limit round is over. For Christmas, my mom went to the Fleet Market, got me the no limit piece, man. I had the no limit piece right in the middle of the year. Yeah, y'all had no limit piece. I'm cleaning the Fleet Market. You could tell me, I was no limit, bro. I was Master P, and if you weren't gonna limit P, I would see murder. You know what I'm saying? You weren't gonna be sealed though, because he was off beat with the rap. I know that. But I don't know. No, bro. See, you was the player, bro. And man, I'm gonna say it was a play of things through problem. See, Craig's story, bro. So this nickname, Keno, used to manage me years ago, bro. When I first, first was coming in, he used to manage me. And he from New Orleans, he actually came from a Bunder KLC. You know what I'm saying? That's my boy. You know what I'm saying? He had a hard relationship with P and all them. So he used to tell me this and I was like, all right, let me go to, so we in LA, we working, he took me to LA to go. This is like when I first jumped in the game, bro. And this nigga had P come up, he pulled up and picked us up, bro. Him and Silk, a sweater guard, bro. We riding with P the whole day, bro. We go to 24 hours. We go to the mall. This nigga take me to his crib. It blew your mind. Man, I think the crib was in, what is it, Santa Monica? Big ass fucking crib. This nigga show me a goddamn tax. They ain't this nigga pay like 20 million in taxes on some shit. Bro, that was like the craziest. And I can't really say, I can't really say the stories that was being told as we was riding around. The shit him and Silk was saying, they was just reminiscing. They wore stories, you know, in this game with who they done been with and all this other shit. And I was like, damn, bro, these niggas really, like they was already the ghost to me, but to actually sit there. You know, that's just like if y'all riding around reminiscing and talking about whatever, whatever. So somebody could be around y'all and they looking at y'all as these high figures. And y'all just talking about y'all life, what y'all done did? Who you done been up in? I was money to make right here in the end and who you used to date and all this shit. I'm just sitting back there like, ah, bro, I wouldn't even want to say the names, but I'm just saying I was in awe, my nigga. Like in awe, bro. Master P is the truth. Have you talked to him since then? Or you never seen him? Yeah, I talked to him a couple of times after that. Yeah, a couple of times, yeah. How did that motivate you though? Because being in an environment, seeing all of that, how did that push you? Man, that whole truth was just surreal. That shit just was, that shit just was, I don't know. I ain't gonna say that it motivated me because it damn did discourage me when I went to this nigga's house. I was like, God damn, my nigga like. I gotta come on with it. And you know for a while, like Pete just now getting back out there, he on social media hit me now. You know for a while, Pete was like chilling, like you know what I'm saying? And I just remember at that time Silk was telling him, he, Silk wanted to get back in the rap. He had went to, he had did a show in Vegas and they was showing him like crazy little, and I remember Pete just like, man, leave that shit alone, bro. They don't want to hear you like such a, he just was all the way off everything that had to do with that. You know what I'm saying? And this courage. And to see just Pete, like he was talking about so much business shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like he was really making me feel like rep. This ain't the route to go get the real bag. But at the same time, he was also telling me shit, how to get the bag and rep, you know what I'm saying? And he just, it was foreign to me at that time though. Like you got. You're frequent in movies too. Ah, he, the man, he the truth. Like I just kill, that's all I can say when I think of Master Pete. Like Master Pete, the true Master Pete is like the blueprint to what I want to do in this rap game. I tell niggas all the time, like that's the blueprint. You know what I'm saying? Like my favorite rappers is Nas and Scarface and Jay-Z. But my favorite hustler is Master Pete. You know what I'm saying? That's the nigga. And that nigga took care of all his people, bro. Yeah. Big court came up on my show. He's a friend of Master Pete, one of his best friends. And he always shouting out P or either, y'all, you know that everybody can't be, everybody telling the truth about Pete, man, being a real, we know your hardcore business, man. A real hustler. Right. So, man, when you think about like the songs, you just did a song like a while back with Socks and Zero, Neem. What was that like propane, like H-Town? Man, that was a remix. Yeah. So just to date it back. So Walk is like, when we talking rap, Walk is, you got rap friends, niggas be rap friends and shit. Walk is my real partner. You know what I'm saying? Like outside of rap, that's like my real homeboy. Then Zero was my favorite Houston rapper that I used to idolize growing up. So then me and him ended up getting like really, really cool. You know what I'm saying? So then that's a song with like two of my partners, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like real partners. Walk was a nigga who came to me when nobody knew who he was, bro. He was just on the come up end. My partner bought him to my studio and I'll never forget this nigga was just telling me what he was about to do in the rap game, how he about to sauce the world up. And I remember just being like, who the fuck is this nigga? And what is he talking about? He tripped me like he had spilled something. He was like, man, social apology, bro. And I was like, this nigga really serious about this all shit. But as he kept talking to me, I'll never forget that night. As he kept talking to me, the nigga was selling me. He was, I was like, by the end of that conversation, I was like, damn, this nigga might use physical sauce the world up. And I'm gonna tell you I was some crazy shit. Everything that nigga told me that night, that was in 2013, 2014 some shit. Man, that nigga did every single thing he told me he was gonna do, bro. Every thing, bro. He told me everybody was gonna be stealing his lingo. Everybody was gonna be talking about that dripping. They're gonna be talking about, he told me all this, bro. I was about to say that cause a lot of people, he always step up and say, man, I did this first, man. Niggas trying to steal the sauce, steal the drip. I came with the word first. You be looking at it in the scene. That nigga innovator, bro. I watched it all happen in my face. I watched this nigga build all this shit in my face. He used to record out my studio, you know what I'm saying? I watched it. I watched this nigga. And can't nobody take nothing from him. Whenever I tell that story, bro, I always make it clear. Propane is not responsible for nothing they walked in. Like that nigga was gonna pop well or not. I was taking him on a roll with me, letting him open up a night, you know what I'm saying? That nigga had it. I was sold the first time I talked to him. That nigga was this and be one of the greatest niggas to do this shit. That's crazy that you was able to see and witness all that and you were already excelling, man. That's just, I love to see you niggas. Y'all niggas love to get money. I love it, bro. And that's my brother, bro. And one thing I can say about Walkbro is that nigga have always returned the gratitude, bro. He is not one of them niggas who, he don't mind telling you that story that I just told you. Yeah. He gonna tell you on his own. He gonna show love. He gonna show love, bro. He gonna pay homage, like, and that's, man, I got too much love for Walkbro. I gotta get him on the show. I hadn't got a chance. So I went back and forth a little bit with him. I know it's gonna happen cause we gonna keep working. Yeah, we gonna make that call. We gonna make the call. Yeah, cause it's something, it's been so many different people. Like, man, you gotta get walk on there. You gotta get walk. Cause he for the coaching, you for the coaching. Yeah, man, love. And Texas, man. I'm a Texas nigga from New York. And he a Texas nigga. And that's what I know. We a Texas nigga. We believe in Texas shit like for so. It's serious, bro. For so. Just to see him and the way that he have activated this thing where everybody's getting to be a part of some that he built is getting bigger and bigger. Niggas is walking up, going to be a part of. I just had Brad Warner Kane on my show. He just signed to the MTSL, you know, just to do some stuff with him. Like he's opening a door where he's embracing the culture and that's what I'm about. I tell people this all the time when I'm talking about Walk. And some people may think it's a crazy comparison, but what he is to Houston right now is what screw was in the 90s, bro. I believe him. And screw, he bridged a lot of gaps between a lot of people, bro. You know what I'm saying? He made it possible for a lot of people, bro. You know what I'm saying? And this is something that I've been seeing in Walk, bro. And this is crazy. So I tell this around that time when Walk was and going back and forth for like drinking shit. Man, I used to tell him, before he did, I used to tell him like, bro, just, it ain't, don't do it because you face to go to a level that you're going to be able to help this whole city out, bro. You know what I'm saying? You don't even need no powers that be trying to go against you. You know what I'm saying? Like you too. And the crazy thing about this nigga is he did the shit and he still made it where he going to go. You know what I'm saying? And that's something right there that needs to be spoken on because a lot of people don't return. No, you gotta understand, man. This nigga, he's a whole brand. He made it. What you said earlier was so dope. You say he made you believe it. Thanks. Because he was so stern and speaking it. And it was coming from a place of pureness from his heart. Minute, bro. Minute. And that when you mean something, you speak it with all intensity. Man, it vibrates the world. Man, it comes to fruition. You speak things into, that's the way the world was formed in my belief system by speaking and what you say and how you go into everything you do. You speak it before you do it. Thanks. Everything. A nigga gonna say it before you go do it. Well, I'm gonna go to the store. My wife will tell me that in a minute. I'm gonna go up here. I got a little list. She done already thought it and spoke it up. She keeps saying it and she do it. Right. That's what we do. Yeah. And that's what you were just saying that happened and I believe you, bro. I believe that, nigga. Like, you work with so many different people, man. You mentioned Rich home in Corn a while ago. Do you? And I gotta ask you this and you don't have to answer it. But do you think things between Atlanta and Houston are gonna be okay with what just happened? Yeah. I think for the most part. You see why I asked that because of the way people look at it. Yeah. I think for the most part right now, you see we live in a time right now, bro, where everything so much clickbait and so many people speak on shit that are not really involved. Not even really involved. You know what I'm saying? They opinion just so. And then she just catch headlines and people wrong with these narratives and shit because so many people are robots and, you know what I'm saying? Sheep. I think for the most part, that's like if something happened in your nick of the woods. Okay. And then, but me and you, I know you because you 1,000, bro. Yeah. You're a real nigga, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure. And you know me for what I am. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And something happened that it don't got nothing to do with you. It don't got nothing to do with me. Yeah. But it was some people from where you from and some people where I'm from. Why would I stop fucking with you? No, that's real. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's like, that's more flawed than anything else. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You weren't the real one to begin with. You know what I'm saying? I tell niggas all the time, like you don't got to tell me shit about nobody to make me don't rock with them because the way they left me is the way I'm gonna judge them the next time I'm around them, you know what I'm saying? And that's how I'm gonna keep it. So I got partners in Atlanta. I got rap homies in Atlanta. And there's a lot of rappers in Atlanta that got partners out here. Like, man, that's bro to not fuck with somebody off the strength of some shit that majority of people even us in this table don't even really know what the fuck happened. No, I wouldn't care. You know what I'm saying? It ain't our business, right? It ain't my business. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, like that that ain't that ain't that ain't our business. So for niggas to think that Houston and Atlanta two of the most poppin cities in the music industry and the South, you know what I'm saying? We gonna stop fucking with each other. Like, who gonna stop fucking with each other? Yeah, cuz you got a lot of love for, I know my brother-in-law down there, I got to go. Right? Like, I'm always down there. Like, I don't think, and not to even speak on that. I just really think niggas really don't know what the fuck they talking about, bro. You know what I'm saying? No, I don't think you can really understand what even people just making up stuff and everybody saying whatever, putting our narratives out there, man. You know, I remember when it happened. I spoke from a place on Bostock. You can go listen to it. It was from my heart. It was basically just showing the fact of, man, I can't believe this. I hate this happen. Prayers to all the families involved. That's the kind of, you know, that's the way I went with it because at first I wasn't gonna put it out. I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna put this out. But then I said, I gotta put this out because they need to hear this, man. Like, it's people who care about these people, man. Right. And I hate this happen. So I gotta, I know all these other niggas saying this and that and that. I'm not that dude, man. I love everybody. Thanks. So I just wanna see niggas get past this in a way to where we don't have to have no more bloodshed. I'm being real. Nah, I agree. I think. But I know how niggas think and I know how niggas do, but I do know there's a God that's bigger than all. Thanks. So at the end of the day, man, I just pray for the families. And man, again, take off, man. A-R-P, man. I really enjoyed it. I met him one time and he was a solid dude. Solid dude. I was in magic in Vegas and seen him. You know, he was real humble, quiet. They were both chilling. Now I heard things after that. That was the time when Sean Kingston was there. I was there with him and all this craziness. This was some years ago. You might not remember. There was some crazy stuff went on that day. You know, so that, but that's just who we are, man. We black people who got a little rah-rah and we just pray that it don't get out of hand, man. You know. That's the main thing, bro. At the end of the day, I feel like if you're not in any circles of anything, of that that happened, you know what I'm saying? Then you don't really know what happened. So I think it will be kind of crazy to catch judgment on anybody, you know what I'm saying? Or anything, because it's almost like that situation. If you see two brothers, they getting into it. And you know, shit, you decided to go take this brother side right here. Yeah. Bro, what you gonna do when they get back cool? You know what I'm saying? You may not get in it. You know what I'm saying? You got to do some shit. And I just say that to say, when something don't got nothing to do with you, stay out of it, bro. No, you're being this. You know what I'm saying? That's actually like a penitentiary thing that people do. Yeah, man. Like a nigga mind it being is he gonna be all right. That's something they can say. And I don't know, bro. It's just the internet shit just make people feel like they just entitled to everybody's life and situation, bro. You get to hear everybody's opinion. They just keep coming. You know what I'm saying? They keep coming. It's like, I don't know. But the funny thing is that when you're, you know, older and you've seen where internet started, you see where social media started, you see where it's come from, from when it first started with your Myspace and all of that tagged all that coming all the way up. And to us, it's getting worse because there's no privacy. There's people are capping so hard. Like, I mean, and some people are believing it. Like, where do you think that this social media generation is going to be in the next five years? You say you have a child, right? Right. They're going to be dealing with this. Oh, they raised in it. You know what I'm saying? They damn near raised by it. So I think, I think, to answer your question, where it's going to be in the next five years. I talked to my partners about the show all the time. I think it's only getting worse, bro. It's only getting worse. It's only getting worse. Like, because you are starting to have people who they so influenced by something that's not real. You know what I'm saying? But they are doing everything in a power to get that same shit that's not real. You know what I'm saying? Which is this fake instant gratification that you can get. I know people who don't got shit going on in a life, but they are cool because social media think they are successful. Social media has presented a platform where when it first started, everything was recreation, joining with family, me and family, whatever. Now it's become a thing where you can make money off of all of that. So now everybody's running to social media be like, I got to post every day. I got to do this. I got to do that. I got to, even if it's not true, I got to just to have something to post. I could live the most boring life ever, but I can make you think that I'm balling every day. I'm doing this every day now, because you gonna look on it and I'm gonna get paid. Yeah, so yeah. You're right. I think the best thing, if I could give any advice to anybody in that room, because it ain't gonna stop. So I tell people all the time, like either you either got to move with the times or you gonna be the old bit of motherfucker. That's all the way around it. So what I tell people is, you just got to understand how to separate the two. You got to understand how to separate reality from social media. Man, gotta ask you about you and J-Dog. Y'all did a song together from here. My life. My life. Did you know that he had people down in Frogtown in Jefferson? Yeah, yeah. The first feature I ever got over as a rapper was J-Dog, my very first year as a rapper. So that was like the second coming. And the crazy part is that song is called My Life Two. Yeah. He was supposed to be on My Life One. That's crazy. And the story why he not on there is, so I went to the projects to go, this was on My Rise, Let Me Save, 2013. I went to the projects to go, to get the verse from him. He told me to pull up. So I'm pulling up me, G&B, them the producers that's on both one and two. We pull up and it's like a bunch of him and his homeboys in an apartment. And so we in there, he listened to the song. He's like, oh yeah, we just keep going in on this. And as he get, he writing this verse, we just, somebody to come bang on the door. Niggas coming out, yo bro, man got you with these niggas, bro, these niggas pull two on me. Niggas like, what's all the niggas raised up? They talking. Then you see a quad there and a dude like, man, that's them right there. Oh yeah, that sound like a movie. I sound like a movie. From the dough, they just shoot me. I'm just like, so one of the niggas like, man, pro, y'all make sure pro good, pro you go in the back room. I say, hell no. I told you, let's go. Niggas straight print, print. We burn out, we burn out, man. Man, I love J-Dawg, I love J-Dawg. I see we laugh and talking about that shit, man. And nobody got hurt, you know what I'm saying? That they just to put that out there. Ain't nobody get hurt. That's hard. That story and just, we just never came back around to doing it. So to turn around and damn near eight years later, see, no seven years later for us to do that. And that should be that big. Like that's one of my biggest songs, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm focusing that word for word in the club. Crazy, man. And that ain't even no club song, bro. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, that's, he's one of my favorites too, bro. J-Dawg is special, bro. Y'all both got these Texas ties. That's crazy. That boy be down in J-Town, man. And they say Frogtown, nigga. Yeah. He's Texas. But the nigga, but that same as you being from Houston, but going down there just because you got relatives there and there, that's something people don't understand. I'm out here because I got relatives out here. So Texas is different. You got people in Dallas. I got people in Dallas, you know. So at the end of the day, you just gotta know, man, that this thing here is serious, man. The culture is so thick that it's crazy, man. So tell me about the freestyle, man. You had a freestyle that I was looking at. I can't think of the name of it. Hold on, he had Pimp C. Pitch on it, though. Oh, yeah. You know exactly what it is. Sunday morning. I shot that in Longview. What? That was my first video I shot in Longview. Y'all love that song, bro. Yeah. So I shot that in Longview. I was out there with one of my boys was getting married. Shout out to my bro D, man. Free D. He was getting married. You getting married. And we shot the video out there. And that shit came out dope as fuck. That's hard, man. That's hard, man. All the homies out there, man. And 903. So you just basically, you just be everywhere doing everything. The earth is your turf, man. I'm from Texas, bro. You know what I'm saying? Hey, man, don't say that, boy. Get hyped, boy. So you would never move out of Texas? I have moved out of Texas. I lived in L.A. for like a year. You didn't like it? No, it was dope. I love L.A. L.A. probably my favorite city outside of my Texas cities. So why you move back? Because it's Texas. I got to be here. Hey, boy, you sound like, boy, you sound like. I got to be here. But I love it though. Yeah. But when it just as far as like on some Texas shit, yeah, I'm I got I just shot videos in Dallas and forward. Me and Walker shot a video. Um, we got a song called Get Out. We shot the video in, in, uh, in forward. That's how long? That's how long? Oh, like two years ago. That's hard. That's hard. Where the name? Who gave you the name propane? Man, my college teammate. Um, I used to. And why? Because so I met my rap name used to be Lil C. Okay. So only because that's some Houston shit. Like you got a little flip, little Kiki, you know, big poke. You either was big or a little something. You see my name Chris. So I was a little C all throughout growing up and shit. So I remember just before the, before the games, I used to freestyle. So, you know, I was always freestyle for the things like that. And I just remember my, my teammate, which was my roommate one day. We was just every time I would rap for niggas, whether it been high school or college, cause I really didn't used to rap for niggas. They'll hear me and be like, bro, you can rap rap. Like you, you can be a rapper. You know what I'm saying? So I remember just telling him that, and I was like, but we got to come up with a new name, bro. Cause let's see that little shit getting kind of old. You know what I'm saying? So I remember that day and we just came in with like a hundred names. And that nigga was like, man, you spent five, bro, you know what? We're going to call you propane. And I was like, no, bro, you can't call me no gas, bro. That shit is kind of hard. That name kind of hard. But I remember I changed the spelling to PR O P A I N. And ever since then, like I ended up doing a freestyle the next day. And I was bullshitting. I was like, man, it's the propane and I never left it again. Shout out to my brother, Paul. He gave me that name. And ever since then, it's just I've been locked in with. You know, there's a Jamaican artist by the name propane, too. It's a rock band with it, too. I didn't have all type of legal situations with these niggas. I'm just assuming that I ended up winning the shit. Yeah, I am. You win because I'm bigger than them already. No, thanks. Like my likeness, I'm serious. So they still got the name. Not together. They got a hyphen in their name. So it's pure old hyphen pain. So with that being said, like we don't got the same name. No, but the Jamaican artist, his name is propane. For real? Yes. He dope. He dope. Maybe we got to do a song. That'd be dope. Yeah. You know, rich homie, you think he's going to come back? He trying. I think I think he already back. He trying. I see him on. I see him campaigning. I think he already back. He just dropped. First of all, he never stopped dropping dope music. You know what I'm saying? Well, what made him what made him look like he was shadow band in on social media? And like I say, shadow band on music, like the energy. He had stopped for a little while. Then you know, you had the little riff with with young. Yeah. And I think young Thug got heavy, heavy, heavy influence in Atlanta. OK, so, you know, you know, this shit clickish. And I'm only speculating, bro. I don't we don't know. You know what I'm saying? It looked like a lot of people sided with Thug. You know what I'm saying at the time. And I've watched interviews with rich home and he said he was tripping at the time. You know, he was on drugs and he wasn't going as hard as with. But I can can say for a while now rich home and Quinn has been putting out some hard ass music. Like his new album, he just put out hard album. He put out for that hard. Like, yeah, I rock you think you'll ever work with him again. You know, y'all did that one. That's my boy. I still talk to him. So y'all, you think you rock out with him one more time? I want to hear another one for me. I don't know for so. I fuck with him. Let's talk about the big elephant in the room for me. You know, how boy was because I asked you about how you found out about boss talk one on one. See, that's the elephant in the room. Yeah, you know, you said, what did you say? You know, I got to let what you say that the interview I watched the interview with how boys that's hard. And you did. That was your first time seeing boss talk or did I my first time? Well, I had I had seen clips. So I knew about boss. So I had already knew about it. So I was already on to it. But that was one of the ones I said. And I watched it like, you know what I'm saying? I got ADHD. So it's damn hard for me to see what you know. But I watched that whole shit and that she turned me on to him. So because you've never you never seen him before that I had seen him. I had knew who he was. But I hadn't heard like really no one said y'all gave him a character. Y'all made it to where people knew how he was. Yeah. So after that, I went and checked out as music. I like Dennis, Nick or like I was already going to fuck with him just out the interview. The interview, you know what I'm saying? The nigga was honest. Like I like the wrongness of authentic niggas. So I was like, damn, I'm like, even if he was trash, I probably would have still kind of fucked with it because of that interview. And I was like, that nigga solid, you know what I'm saying? So when I heard the music, I like, damn, this nigga can go. You know what I'm saying? I've been a fan ever since. Man, he when I had him on there, he showed love. He showed love to Kiki Powerhouse. That's where that nigga was so low, bro. That's what made me go fuck with him. That nigga was paying homage. And he was and he and he know about it to be a younger nigga. He know about it, bro. That's what that's what that's what bought me. And I swear to God, that's what you just said. That right there when I heard that nigga saying it and he takes his nigga and he he proud of his culture. That's it. That's it. So when I heard that shit, I was like, oh, now I'm rocking with this nigga. Yeah, wrong. Just wrong. And he come in and what you see and what you get. He ain't trying to remind me of if I had a got to talk to a two part the way he just let it out. Yeah. At the time that I'm talking to that two part that was just throw that out there. He wasn't trying to hear it. You know, that's the way he was, you know, and you got to realize this man 20, he ought to be 28. Now when I call you like on, but the 11 years in prison already. Yeah, 11 years, you know, in TV, just trying to get back, fighting back in life, coming back up and then to get an opportunity to be work with Gucci. And I thought that was dope. So I went looking for him. She know it. I wanted to be a part of his his whole run in the way to carry itself. That was dope. Yeah, that's what that was about. That definitely turned me on all the way to boss. I'll get it. Turn me on. And I'm looking for sauce Walker next time. I mean, we're gonna make that happen. Yeah, he already, you know, doing his thing, but boss talk got to get him in the room. You remember man. So man, thank you, man. So how can people, how can people get a hold to you? Man, propane 713. That's on everything. That's on Twitter, Instagram, that's Facebook. That's YouTube, P O P A I E and 713. That's hard. Top three artists of all time. You heard when we said it earlier. Top three artists of all genre. All genre. Michael Jackson. Okay. Michael, how are you killing me? Of course. They want me to retire. Damn, three. Yes. Michael Jackson. Damn. Come on. It ain't that hard now. It ain't that hard. No, no, no. Yeah, you said no. Michael Jackson, no. Number three. That's usually where everybody choke up is a number three. I'm a go with. I got a couple options. So it's out of this is my personal favorite. So it's out of Mary J Blotch. No, it's not out of. I'm just a piggy though. I'm a piggy though. I'm a piggy. It's out of Mary J Blotch. It's out of Stevie Wonder. That's hard. Who you going with? Damn. I'm a go with. I'm a go with. Yeah. Tick tock. Tick tock. Tupac. That's the same choice for real with Tupac. So do you feel that Tupac is better than Prince? So I'm the same. He not a wrong person to ask that question. Oh, yeah. That nigga in the street. I come from a street area. No, you're a rapper, rapper, nigga. But I'm going to tell you why this is the only thing. So I'm just a I study everything. So I study everything about Prince. And I know he's like one of those unicorns. Like you got him, you got Rick James, you got Art Killie, you got D'Angelo. And what I mean by unicorn is they are like a select few of artists that do everything. They write everything. They mix everything. They play every instrument. They every it's it ain't too many. We can't name 10 artists that's really cold. They got the influence that like Art Killie or Prince or Rick James, D'Angelo. Like they are like unicorns, Ron Leslie, them type. So I got nothing but respect for Prince. But I come from a household where it was a Prince versus Michael Jackson. So I don't Michael Jackson. Yeah, Michael Jackson to go. Got it. So I'm not going to pick two Prince over too many people. Got you. Being that you down here in Texas, man, what do you think about UGK? I got to talk about bum being PMC, man. What do you mean? Why do you think about the group? How are they? Do you even listen to UGK? Come on. Are you a UGK fan? I'm from Texas, man. How can it be for him? I don't. This is pro-paying. That's a pro-printer. Do you know it? Do you know? I got my company, bro. I got two more questions. Forever Trio, bro. Like I'm influenced by UGK, bro. Bumb is my dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But hold on, but there weren't any of the top three. Oh, here we go. You told me you asked me the top three orders of all time. Yeah, a lot of people put, especially when you're from Texas, a lot of people put PMC, UGK in their top three, Scarface. They put that in their top three. You didn't say top five. No, no, top three. And I'm going to tell you right now, I love Bumbi. I love UGK. I love Scarface. But I also really love Michael Jackson. And I really love Tupac. Tupac is the only rapper in the world that has ever made me cry. Ever. I have never cried to no other than you. Your mama got that nigga with the man that is mama. Your mama got that nigga. How do you know that? Thugs mansion. You know, I told you when I moved along with you? Yeah. So I told my mama I would. But I was just bullshitting. Like, I ain't want to leave my partners. So one shit already took me out of school and put me in. I was like fucking heartbroken. I was crying all the way down there, man. I ain't crying so long before that. But I don't listen to Tupac. I don't repeat the whole way down there like, fuck the world. Fuck this shit. I hate it, bro. I was devastated. Oh, that's how I was devastated. It's hard though. Yeah, like, but that's that. But that's real now for sure. That's who we are. See, if you were to ask me top three groups all the time now, that would have been different. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't get you with you. GK outcast, possibly top three artists. A lot of people throw GK or Pepsi in it or scarf in a top three. Yeah, a lot of people when they when they Texas, they throw. See, but you see all genres and I'm like a music junkie. Like we can go back to the fifties, the sixties. I'm a I'm a music junkie. I listen to everything. So I I I don't know. I just we got some kind of hard to put people over. Michael Jackson, I agree. I agree. Stevie Wonder. I agree. I can't wait to the next movie. Y'all got me. I'm so excited. Like I said, again, I want to go back to that. I just want to tell you, thank you for even, you know what I mean. Appreciate your time and appreciate what you do, man. Like I said, I can't wait for the next one. I got to see the next one, man. And he got to come on, man. And you know what I'm saying? We started shooting a month. Yeah, but then I got to see you. You got to be. I need you everywhere doing everything. I need to different cities. I need to see you. I need to see Kevin Hart beside you. You need to be in all the movies and all that in that. You got Bubba Dub down there. Yeah, that's who you need to link with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my buddy. We're here yesterday. I ran into him outside of the studio and you need to link with him. I'm from East Texas. So I'm from East Texas. So when I ran into him. Yeah, he's from, like, what, like, Lufkin, you know what I'm saying? By the way, I ran into him. OK, so you ran into him. I just knew him from social media. I didn't even know what he was doing down there. And then I was like, bro, you funny as hell. And the nigga was like, knew my music. Yeah, that nigga real. I didn't know he was from Texas, though. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I ain't know that. So when he got to, he just, he, I was like, damn, nigga, what are you, you know, a lot about propane. You know what I'm saying? When he told me that, I was like, damn, that's crazy. But yeah, he funny as fuck. Him and Jeff Shelley, some of my favorite comedians online, you know what I'm saying? Niggas on the come up. And I think they're going to do big things. He stand up as hilarious. Hilarious, you know what I'm saying? You got to go see, you got to go see. And like I said, the movie thing, he divin' and dabbing. You need to y'all, I'm going to link y'all in. No, I'm definitely, that's the, that's the route. I'm definitely looking to go, bro. I'm really, I'm really interested in doing more movies. You might as shit, what's dope? I'm just trying to put you with the new ones coming. That this is going to be, you know what I'm saying? We're going to do a Friday. It'll be hard, it'll be hard, Niggas. It'll be hard. So, but do you, you know, I'm going to let you out of here. But the videos, man, do you get real sentimental? Cause now you, you doing movie, nigga. I expect more in your videos. Don't come out here with no free style with the mic hanging. I don't want to see that. No, I don't want to see a, I don't want to see a, I want to see a miniature movie, nigga. Did you see, did y'all see the video with me and Jadah? That shit is a classic. We re-re-enacted my whole damn childhood. His childhood, that shit is a movie. So you've always been on that. I always been on, every videographer I work with, I tell him all the time, Hey bro, I'm not one of them niggas who want to stand in front of you with my partners behind me and rap. Like we need to get them something to come back and watch again and again and again. You know what I'm saying? I always say that a lot more people need to do that. For sure. Paint the picture because yes, they can hear what you're saying, but when they can see it, they feel it a lot more. But a lot of people don't know. But I've always knew that from the jump. So that's something I always do, always do. That's crazy, man. So, man, hey, man, we love your propane, man. Thank you for doing Boss Talk 101. I ask you to just continue to pray for me and my wife and my family, man. I know that I'm going to do the same for you and your daughter, man. That's what real talking, real conversations is what we're about. But I don't know about how to do this. Like no other nigga and you cut him off. Yeah, nigga, I'm going to talk crazy, all that. Thanks. It's a country, Texas, nigga, and I'm proud of it. Can I say stand up for you for being a single dad, handling your business, taking care of your baby and stuff like that? We didn't get into the reason why you're a single dad. There she go. You know, that's a woman. Because it's rare. You don't ever hear that. You always hear it because people sitting in a seat is always raised by their mom and their dad is a rolling stone or in prison or whatever. We're watching them dial a period movement. It's not watching them. I'm talking about the people who sit, the guests who sit in the seat. It's majority of people. Yeah, I didn't even know my daddy. See? So, at all? At all. So even to today, you don't know him? Nah, I met him one time when I was like three. Three? Yeah, so my dad is African. He from Ghana. But yeah, I have no relationship with him. I don't know if he walked in right now, I wouldn't know him. Wow. How did that make you feel? I don't know. You just kind of like hard to miss something you ain't ever had. So I don't know. And where I'm from, that was coming. Nobody got their daddy. We don't win. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? So that made you step up to the plate even more with your child? Maybe, but shit, I enjoy it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I couldn't even fathom me not being around my daughter and not raising my daughter. You know what I'm saying? So I don't, that part right there, I don't get with other niggas who like not involved in their kid's life. And I'm, you know, as you get grown, you understand circumstances for different people is different. And sometimes it ain't, these people fall or whatever. So I get that part, but just to not have no relationship at all. You know what I'm saying? That's, that's weird to me. But how hard is it for you being a man raising a little girl compared to, you know, it's easier for you to raise a little boy because you can relate, but then raise a little girl. How hard is that? Hmm. How uncomfortable is it? It's not uncomfortable. You know what I'm saying? It's not uncomfortable. And I want to see her making something like her mama. It's not involved in all. Cause her mama is involved. And I think it's done. Got me and her relationship and got a little bit better now. So now it's kind of like she'll go with both of us. Type shit, but like when I was taking last year, that's 100%. OK, 100%. So, um, but to just answer your question, like, yes, it's I ain't going to say as hard as it is life. You know what I'm saying? I'm a winner. So I feel like anything that I do in life, I'm out to do it at the highest level and do it the best. So if you ask me, how would I grade my father's kids? I'm going to tell you a plus, you know what I'm saying? Like that's I don't want to settle for none less. That's just like we're rapping. You ask me how good I think I rap. I'm not being cocky in one of these dudes who like, I'm cold. I think now I really think I'm that one. You know what I'm saying? Like, because I like this is I'm going to put my all in that shit. So I really believe it. You know what I'm saying? So that's just I don't know. I don't think it's difficult. I think it's just something I want to do. I think I enjoy it. I think if she gets older, it's it's constantly a new experience every single day. She older. So her eight years old, that's a whole different girl. There was a seven and a five. So this is exciting. And it's new. Now we getting the beef because I can't come here. So, you know what I'm saying? I try to do it in the morning and she's lying. It's ain't it. You know what I'm saying? So this is dope, man. She's building this personality. Now she want to be fly. And you know, you just watch them from a baby. Now you see these people have minds that they own. Personalities, opinions, opinions. And now she kind of can get mad and be quiet now. So even though it's life and you know, you're growing on this shit is still like, wow. You know what I'm saying? I'm looking every day like, damn, it's crazy. You want more? I don't want no more girls. I don't want no more girls. That shit ain't for the week. A girl ain't for the week, especially for somebody who like me, like who I want everybody around me to enjoy that stuff. I want everybody to be happy. You got to be protective of that girl. You can't answer. I need to I got to go back one time into the music and I hate to do you like this, but you talked about your label a while ago. Right. How important is it to you to have you signing a deal or or is it independency or what was the route for you? Man, all right. Great question. So boom, I got I've had deals. I've had offers that I feel like could have been dope and didn't take them. You know what I'm saying? So when two rounds came out, that was in 2013-2014. And had offers from Atlantic, had offers from Dev Jam, sat on Leo Cohen's couch, talked to Mike Careham, went out there in Atlanta. And then Atlantic told me they want to put me with MMG. I didn't want to do it because, hell, Rick Ross ain't handpicking me. So y'all going to throw me over there. That's the time they had me. Can they have a while later? I'm like, that's because I got a hot song. It ain't like these niggas. This nigga right here, the hardest we want them. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, no, I don't want to do that to myself because that's not going to be authentic. And they also told me they were going to put me with CTE. Wow. And I was just like the same shit. Like, no, that ain't. And I ain't saying I made the perfect decision at the time. But that's just I always been the type of nigga who wanted to take my own disney and my own hands. I tell you, I always wanted to be like M.S.P. So I always wanted to try to own as much as I could. So I just I wouldn't just that that ready to rush to go get up under some niggas who didn't even pick me. So I ain't take the Atlantic shit. I ain't take the devil's damn shit. I end up doing a 50-50 partnership with E1 at the time. That was just for the single deal. These niggas offer me 10 times more money than everybody was trying to offer me. You know what I'm saying? I was able to I was able to get my the ownership to that song back. You know what I'm saying? Which that be still stream crazy to this day. You know what I'm saying? So and then just to build on the catalog, on the catalog, on the catalog. So at this point now, I'm in my 11 year now. That is shit. I'll make sense because why I didn't take and I know niggas not to speak on. I know rappers who at the time was taking deals and they was bigger than me and shit now. And now it's like you own none of that shit. You know what I'm saying? That's real. You own none of it. So these niggas don't even care for rap no more because the game will do that to you. You know what I'm saying? A post. And now I got everything that I've ever did since I first came in. And so every time you make a move like how I just did this movie, it's supposed to be a bunch of niggas who just not fit to find out who propane is. What's the first thing you're going to do? Go look at that music. You feel me? So every time this shit keeps streaming and going up and every time I have a moment like the Z-Dog song or the song I got with Kevin Gates or some shit. Me or whoever, whatever. It just keep going up, keep going up. And I own this whole catalog. So now at this point right now, it makes so much damn sense of what everything I was doing. You know what I'm saying? Because it's every month. You know what I'm saying? I get everything every month. So and I'm not saying that every niggas you need to do this same route. This is just what I want to do. Some niggas get into the game because they want to be famous or they want to be on the bigger stages. So I'm not saying there's no right way or wrong way. But what I am saying is propane. If it don't make sense to me to maintain ownership. And when it's all said and done, my daughter had this shit when I'm done. Opposed to a lot of these artists we seen when they passed away and their kids ain't taking care of because they don't own none of that shit. You know what I'm saying? That ain't going to be me. You know what I'm saying? All right. My daughter already got two albums in her name right now. Wow. I already gave her two. I got an album called Seven. When she turned seven, we signed up with her. So she collects all the streaming money for that. You know what I'm saying? When she turned 21, she gonna probably have four or five albums that I made that I'm just gonna give her though. So that's the way, you know, I don't I don't have to. All right. Let me go put this up every month of my life. She already collected it on her own without me even thinking about it. You know what I'm saying? So that's the move. This is what I want to do, bro. So what's your feeling? I don't know if y'all went over it whenever I am. No, I didn't. Wait, wait, wait, God, I can't know. Yeah. So what is your affiliation with seven seven? That's that's my bro. That's my bro. That's like my real. That's my friend. You know what I'm saying? And when we first met, we had different depth in trying to just, you know, trying to put some of the music together. You know what I'm saying? And I think I ended up finding out this nigga is way much more vital to me as a partner. That's real way more than music, bro. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, way more than music. And I think that's somebody. We got mutual respect for each other. That's somebody who at a time, well, I still was. I mean, at the end of the day, we all trying to figure this out. You know what I'm saying? But I still was just trying to figure out which way I want to go as an artist. And he was somebody that was trying to figure out which way he wanted to just get in the game. You know what I'm saying? And I think we kind of click. But as far as musically, it we don't. We haven't never put any music out together. But we have put out a bunch of music together, like with his audience. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my nigga. Like, me and him kind of got a coming thing, bro. He'll win also. That didn't go in by any means. And that's what me and him click. And even with the movie and shit, like, like he doesn't present so many opportunities to a nigga. Like, I'm feeling grateful for everything he got going on, everything he done did. But that's like, that's more than some rap shit. You know what I'm saying? That's like my nigga. Yeah, family. Yeah, for sure. I feel about him and a great dude. I've been solid ever since I met him. And that's the cold part. That's another thing about energy and understanding. Yeah, he different, bro. Yeah, move with you. He different, he different. We gon' have them godly conversations, too. And they've grown me in conversation. Grown me in conversation. Yeah, you got family. And then the seven, when you brought the seven up, the seven-year-old daughter, that's what made her think. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And so that's the album that made him gravitate to me. I know. That seven stood out to him. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. And then I ain't even really fully, fully understand numerology and the numbers in them. And when we had a conversation, he put me on, you know how big this album is, you know what this said me? And what's crazy is, that was the meaning behind the album. And I didn't even know it. You didn't even know it. You feel me? That's hard. As you go listen to the skits on there, that's what that album was really about. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know. So he put me, man, it's just, and just what you said, bro, them conversations we had, them conversations we had. And what it did to elevate my intellect to a lot of the shit was way more important than anything to ever do music, you know what I'm saying? That's real. Yeah. You say you did more with Kevin Gates. This is it. This is the last question you did on Kevin. How was it working with Kevin Gates? And would you be working with him again? Man, I got actually a couple of songs with Kevin Gates. The first song I got with Kevin Gates, I didn't even ask him to do it. Wow. That was the song we reached on the corner. Yeah. He did the remix. That's when he was just on his shit and just wanted to get on shit and was killing shit. And he did that. And then the second one. This is around the time that Atlantic was trying to sign me. He had just kind of, he was just signing with them and just doing this thing. And I remember there was a dude named Brian that was working with him that was trying to just pretty much sell him in the Texas market and was just, you know what I'm saying? He getting him on different shit with different shit like that. And Salute to Gates, bro. I think Gates one of the one of the hardest, the hardest artists. I ain't even just say rappers because he bigger than a rapper. He one of the hardest artists the game done seen. I think he kind of underappreciated how cold he is. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, at the end of the day was meant for you. Ain't nobody can take it from you. So when I was coming to him, he's coming to him. Full fledged straight ahead. You feel me? That's what they, you know, that's that's like my moniker in Texas. And everywhere I go, man, bro, you so underrated, bro. You supposed to be. And I tell niggas all the time, bro, like, nah, I'm ready. Well, I'm supposed to be ready, bro. This is the hardest story post to go. Yeah. And I'm cool with it. Whenever it get to wherever it is you think that I'm supposed to be. I'm gonna be there when I'm supposed to be there. I say this all the time, but it's it's humbling though, bro, because you have a nigga sit here and this all the time. I had these interviews, like, bro, man, I think you supposed to be with. He said, y'all like this. And I'll be like, he was supposed to be here. Yeah, it's them being people who was right here. And I was right here. And I just kept doing this right here, though. Why I've seen you do that. And I just kept doing this. Now to see niggas do this and I'm just keep doing this. Yeah. I'm never going to stop doing this, bro. That's real. This ain't no time limit on this. I'm timeless with the rap shit. Because I rap with my life. So this ain't no trend. This is slow in the race. Thanks. Yeah, I can't wait to get you to Dallas. So I know you coming down there. Oh, yeah, for so we're going to make it through the shop, man. We're going to get it popping in here, man. So soon as you can, let me know when you're coming in. That's true, man. You got to come by boss talk and in the D. Hey, man, thank you so much for coming on. So one on one, man. You're a great guy. We love you. There's another great segment of boss talk one on one. What a boss is talk and we have.