 Devon, I remember when you said that I think it was age eight when you took him for his first boxing. Yes. Okay. And you were told that he is talented. A natural. We on boss talk one on one. One on one. Here we go. Go ahead. Boy, she put the thing on me, man. One has a big. Go ahead. No, I wanted to go back into. Okay. So Devon, I remember when you said that. I think it was age eight when you took him for his first boxing. Yes. Okay. And you were told that he is talented. A natural. A natural. How long after when you say, you know what? I'm going to put my all into him. I'm going to invest in him. I'm going to do what it takes to make him a champ. How long after that did that come into your head? Yeah, you know what is funny because just thinking of back on it, my friend, John White, and he has one baby. I say baby at the same age. And he told me, he was like, deal. I can't say, you know, I could go back and do it again after doing what we did with Devon, meaning I wouldn't got him a boxing gym right over on Sahara. Right. His own boxing gym when he was like 10 years old. Right. And for someone to do that, you know, that's pretty crazy. You know what I mean? I was really believing in him. But after seeing him, what he did to that boy that first time, I said, oh, we got something. I said, we got something. So that's why I always say. So you were right into it after that. No, just if you would have seen it because he was already fighting. You should have videoed it. I didn't know it was going to go down like that. I thought he was going to get. I thought he was going to get what? And he taught you. He already knew he had something. Yeah. But how much did it cost? Like, because I know all people when I say, um, people are watching who maybe their child want to start boxing or they're or that child themselves. So you know what? I'm going to raise up some money to send myself through boxing. How expensive can it be to really just get up and, you know, with the talent to get up and get going? You know what? Boxing is, uh, it's you don't get paid a lot to you get paid a lot and but it's expensive. It's crazy because it's expensive. For the training and stuff. But the pay, that's just real weird. But if you get someone to believe in you, a coach to believe in you, um, you know, it can happen. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to say any kind of number because I don't know any kind of number. Every, every number is every number is different. But, but one thing that I can say is that if you have faith and you're doing the right thing, man, God will make a way. Won't he make, won't he do it? That's the only thing I really believe. I believe that too. And I was talking to, I was talking to, um, someone today and then they told me they was like, it was like you, you take care of so many people. That's all they're like, they're like, um, I'm, I'm concerned. I don't want you to like have no, when I was like, what? I said, what you mean? Like a nervous breakdown? And then I was like, and then I was looking to, right, right. That's the part I was like, so and, but they wouldn't say it. They was like, no, I just want you to be, you know, just stay healthy and what's the name? I said, listen, I said, if you can take care, if I can take her a quarter of the people, right? And you feel like you, you, it's okay to take her a quarter of people. And then she said, yes, she said, yeah, Michael quarter people. I said, well, why you only have an expectation out of you to take her, I have an expectation I can take care of all of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like we just have different expectations. Right. I have, I have, I have something that I'm asking different of God than you. Because I know it's all come to God. So why are you only asking for a quarter when you can ask for a hundred? Man, that's so true. I like that. Yeah, that's real kid Austin. Floyd Scofield. Your son is the champion. Everybody's gunning for your son, man. I'm doing it a lot. Listen, listen, this is the place that you work for and out of respect. But the ones like kid Austin to tell the truth and say they want to fight, I have more respect for them than the ones that say they don't know who he is. Wow. That's hard. That's real. That's so real. Yeah. I hate when people do that. Yeah, I know. Do you know anybody that said that? Not about him, but I know people who say that. I don't know this person. I was going to ask you so y'all make me forget, man. I can't stand y'all, man. Oh, the last fight. You couldn't go to the last fight. Yeah, that's what they said. Why? Because of the felony. I figured that's what it was. You know what I mean? Where was it being held? It was in Australia. But yeah, but the Victorian government, they, you know, thank God that they made the right decision. Let me come over. You know, they trusted that I would make an exception. Yeah, they made an exception. They trusted that I was going to come and do the right thing. You know what I mean? They had looked at everything, you know, the rap sheet and all the stuff and made the decision. They made the right decision because that's all I want to do is go. Right. Support them. Be there for my, be there for my son. Yeah. And at the end of the day, I just, you know, I'm going to be honest with you, man. I just love the fact that you came on Boss Talk 101. I'm so humbled, bro. I mean a lot to me, man. We didn't know what we was doing when we first started this thing, man. But God by faith, you know what I'm saying? We walk by faith, not by sight. So when we put this together, we used to, there was a time when we walked around with cameras and nobody didn't know what I was doing there. That's the way God will do you. You don't know what's going on, but he'll make it all make sense in the end. You know what I'm saying? Just like when you took your son to that gym and you was going to teach him a lesson, but God had a lesson to teach you. You know what I'm saying? Man, you know the time has come, man. I'm going to shut it down. I'm going to shut it down. What is the age, the longevity for a fighter? Like up to what age? You know what it does, it does, how they take care of their body and stuff. Of course, you see TBE, Floyd, he's at 45, he's still doing exhibitions, and I think... But exhibitions is not like a real fight. I'm talking real. But it is an exhibition, and so you're right. But from a competitive standpoint, I believe that I think George Foreman might have been the oldest guy. And how old was that? In Texas, that's why you asked me where I was from. How was George Foreman? He was old, because he'd be the last one. He was 50. He was whooping to be but 50. Yeah, yeah, but that's of course not the norm. Yeah, that's very rare. I think where they're at in their prime is like 32. Yeah, and then they retire after that. They retire about 34, 35, 36. And if they haven't lost their belt, is retire with the belt? Yeah, retire with the belts. Yeah, retire with the belts.