 Hey everybody, what's going on? I am Greg Sussman joined today by Jim Sannis of Fandle as we break down the winners and the losers For round one of the NFL draft. What's happening Jim? I am all good, Greg Last night was a lot of fun Getting to see you like a live event play out again Getting to watch Twitter reactions and just having things to talk about again It was a delight lived up to the hype which I think was tough to do So I had a great time and I'm ready for more fantasy Robin guys in rounds two and three tonight How are you doing as I said before this started Jim? I just wanted Dave get him and not to screw it up I don't think he did so a successful round one for me also very excited for round two and round three Let's get into some of the winners though from the first night of the NFL draft and sir We are going to begin With Clyde Edwards. Hello there the last pick over the first round But potentially the most beneficial pick over the first round from a fantasy football perspective Why do you like the new Brian Westbrook? Yeah, apparently the better Brian Westbrook And I think that last night throughout the draft for the first 31 picks There was a pretty big question about who was the biggest winner from a fantasy perspective I think guys like Drew Lock were in the discussion there Baker Mayfields in that discussion There were a couple of winners But there was no bonafide winner and then the chiefs go out and draft Clyde Edwards II layer with the 32nd overall pick And it's like okay pretty easy that makes it a lot easier on us as content people We know who is number one or from the draft that is Clyde Edwards II layer and not only is he the biggest winner But I think now with this selection He becomes the first overall pick in rookie dress in dynasty for this year because what you're getting is a guy Who is going to be tied to the Kansas City Chiefs Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reed for likely the next five years that full length the rookie contract And that's attractive what we want in fantasy football out of our running backs Is to get them in good offenses that will score touchdowns and to get them to get passing down work We know Mahomes will be efficient But also of all the guys in this class we're gonna get passing down work It was going to be Edwards II layer as that top guy there because he was a beast in the past game at LSU 55 receptions are 453 yards. He lined up out wide on a pretty regular basis as well So they get created with him That's the thing that you love about running backs in the chiefs offense is it's not just targets They're not Leonard for net targets They are getting them targets downfield where you can do a lot of damage in a hurry I would still expect Damien Williams to get some work in this offense in year one So the year one outlook we're not expecting like a bell cow back here for Clyde Edwards II layer But Damien's contract runs up after this year. I believe this will be his age 28 season He's not a young pup by any means So if you can deal with a little bit of a committee in year one I think that it's really worth the trade-off here for Clyde Edwards II layer He is in play for redraft for sure But he is the no doubt surefire 1.01 in dynasty with this landing spot and the unquestioned winner from night one of the draft It's actually amazing how many tweets and maybe I just followed too many fantasy and gambling analysts But once I caught Edwards I layer was picked all tweets were just said 1.01 and that's all it said repeatedly because he is a monstrous winner His stock is rising. We knew Ken the city at some point was gonna draft a future running back and they did and he is Better than Brian Westbrook potentially better than Lashawn McCoy potentially It is the only first round running back ever drafted in the Andy Reed era and that's why he's 1.01 Let's continue on Jim another player whose stock is up after last night You never just talking about before we started live here It's Henry rugs he was the first wide receiver off the board before Jerry Judy before city lamb my map and the Oakland Raiders Selected Henry rugs were just a man. Yeah, I thought it was interesting I think that's the word that I would use for because we went into this process assuming that Henry rugs would be a better real world asset than he'd be a fantasy asset because his speed is so impactful when it comes to actual football because he opens up So much for everyone else in the field But in Alabama, he didn't get a ton of usage and guys in this mold don't get a ton of usage So my assumption going in is that rugs will be just kind of like an okay fantasy asset not being this, you know Big priority. He's still not gonna be a huge priority for me But I don't think he could have had a better landing spot than what he got with Las Vegas He goes out to Las Vegas his competition for targets is Darren Waller Tyra Williams Hunter Renfrow And I think that's probably the best situation he could have been in and the thing with rugs You look at Derek Carr and we know that he's not the most aggressive quarterback He doesn't go downfield all that much but throughout his career when he has gone downfield He has been effective and rugs wasn't just a deep ball specialist in Alabama He also would take these short passes from to a tongue of I loa and take him to the house so He has a diverse skill sets and I think that my outlook for Henry rugs Could not have wound up better than it's gonna wind up being here with him being that first round selection For the Las Vegas Raiders now it's worth mentioning I'm still not gonna be as high on him as I am on guys like Jerry Judy like CD Lam like Justin Jefferson Potentially just because the way they operate is going to lead to more usage So I still expect Henry rugs to fall behind those guys in our dynasty rookie drafts But the outlook for rugs is so much better than what I was expecting going in I think that's the most noteworthy thing here is relative to expectations Henry rugs got a pretty major upgrade. I think that's a great thing for him again I'm not super worried about Derek Carr not being most aggressive passer Just because rugs is a talented guy who can get kind of take a slot to there You know a slant to the house So I think that that's not a major downside for him and relative to expectations Henry rugs had a pretty major boost last night Which was not true for most of the receivers who went in the first round Henry rugs in a really good spot to succeed here in the year one with Oakland You name the other players competing for targets with him We'll see what happened of a surprise that rugs went off the board before Judy before lamb But Oakland rather at Las Vegas gets their guy in Henry rugs One more player who stock is up from last night and that's Jaylin Ragar now It's funny because of course, I'm thinking Ragar Italian here But um Jaylin Ragar is the player that goes to Philadelphia when every Eagles fan that I was looking at was like Oh, Justin Jefferson Justin Jefferson Justin Jefferson, and then you have the Ragar and you just kind of hear them deflate a little bit Why should the Eagles fans like Ragar Targaryen? Yeah, I think that it's interesting here because I agree. I like Justin Jefferson a lot I think that he was super productive in college. He had a good combine as well So Justin Jefferson is probably a really good player and you could have potentially put him as one of the winners on this list But the reason I put Jaylin Ragar here is because again It goes back to what we discussed with Henry rugs before with expectation The expectation for Jaylin Ragar may not have been that of a first round pick He was a first round pick in a couple of mocks likely going to the Saints in a couple of spots But now he winds up 21st overall ahead of a really talented wide receiver and Justin Jefferson He goes to spot where he can get usage right away because you look at the Eagles their wide receiver depth chart is It's not great to say the least Alshon Jeffery is always banged up to Shawn Jackson always banged up and Ragar is gonna play outside so that means that when they decide to go with those two tight end sets with Zacharates and Dallas Goddard Ragar will probably still be on the field. It gives him another fast player in this offense I know Ragar's 40 time was a relative disappointment at the combine, but it seems like he bulked up there You know to try to help himself in other areas So I think the actual speed for Jaylin Ragar is better than the 447 he ran Which means that he'll be that lidlifter that Carson Wentz was so desperately missing from this offense last year This is a good thing for Carson Wentz because it should upgrade his his receiver corpse Maybe not as much as it would have been but they got like Justin Jefferson who also does have that speed But at the end of the day, it's another weapon in this offense It means, you know, we're shoving down guys on the depth chart who were playing prominent roles For the Eagles last year. That's a good thing Decreasing the reliance on guys like Jeffrey and Deshaun Jackson. That's a good thing for them, but again for Jaylin Ragar I think he is the biggest winner here in this equation Because draft capital matters and the draft capital tied to Jaylin Ragar was very high He goes to a landing spot where he can get targets right away So again like rugs relative to expectation Things go pretty well for Jaylin Ragar even if he's not quite in that same tier again as guys like Judy Like Liam and like Justin Jefferson I think it was clear how desperate the Eagles were for a wide receiver last year when everybody got hurt, right? You mentioned now Sean Jeffrey Nelson Aguilar was banged up as well So many of these passcatchers to Sean Jackson too were banged up And he went down to JJ Arthaga Whiteside and there's nothing happened And you knew that the Eagles were absolutely desperate to get Carson Wentz weapons And now they have with Jaylin Ragar who again isn't one of those top flight wide receivers that you mentioned potentially Or even Justin Jefferson, but he should be the position to succeed in year one Which means he's stuck certainly up on night one of the NFL draft All right, we chatted about some of the players who stock was up after night one Let's talk about players who stock dropped a little bit further than we kind of expected after the first night of the NFL draft We'll go and begin with CD lamb went a little bit later than we thought and the Usage job isn't exactly huge. We don't hate CD lamb or anything But it may not be as bright as we would have hoped playing in Dallas across from our Cooper He's not necessarily the wide receiver one on his team quite yet So he could have been but it's not there. Where does that put you in drafting CD lamb in fantasy football this year, Jim? Yeah, I'll still be in the CD lamb for sure because this is not a major downgrade for CD lamb Like I think my expectation was Las Vegas if he had gone there He could have been a stud right away because of the competition for targets now He goes to Dallas and I'm never gonna complain about getting a wide receiver playing eight games inside and playing 16 games with Dak Prescott because Dak Prescott is gonna be really good this year for fantasy He's gonna be so efficient and we're gonna love this offense The problem is there are a lot of mouths to feed here for Dallas That's a slight problem because CD lamb is a high volume guy He is a really fun wide receiver But when you're competing with Amari Cooper and Michael Gallup for Tard, it's an Ezekiel Elliott for targets rather than Hunter Renfro And Tyra Williams, that's a major shift in expectation here So CD lamb is a talented wide receiver who is playing indoors and we catching passes from Dak Prescott those are all really good things for fantasy, but The biggest driver of value in fantasy is volume and the volume expectation for CD lamb went down last night Related to where I expected it to be going in so CD lamb will still be a very relevant fantasy player Not just now but into the future is something that they do get that Dak Prescott contract worked out and keep him around For a long time to come he's gonna be relevant here But it's hard to see him turning into you know a 25% target market share guy When you have such good options elsewhere on that team I still like CD lamb because it's hard to hate anyone in a Dak Prescott offense But I wish he would have gone somewhere with a couple of more targets to the taking But hey, it may not be great for fantasy But for real world football to watch this Cowboys team slinging it to these guys That's at least a nice little compensation to get that in return Oh, it's nice little consolation to have this fun offense. We'll get to watch throughout the year So tough landing spot for fantasy football and CD lamb, but he's still relevant and it's gonna be fun to watch So it's not all negative even if he does get a slight downgrade here Dak Prescott stock up for sure With a new weapon the addition of a weapon that see the lamb, but his value a Little bit down based on where he ended up with the Dallas Cowboys Like he said, he's not competing with the likes of Tyra Williams on a Renfro instead of tomorrow Cooper ZQ Elliott A little bit of a difference there. See you lamb's gonna be a good NFL pro and definitely consider drafting him on draft day All right, let's move on to another player who stocked a little bit down from last night It's Justin Herbert not a surprise where he ends up with Los Angeles Chargers third Quarterback off the board after Joe Burrow and to a tongue of my love Justin Herbert with the Chargers may not start from day one. You believe it's not actually down though It's kind of surprised because I think it is where he ended up. Yeah It's all it's all about expectations Greg and the expectation for me was that he would go to the Chargers So from that perspective, it's not a downgrade Especially because he's thrown to Keenan Allen Mike Williams Hunter Henry Austin network like that's awesome That's a really good unit to have the problem is they traded up back into the first round And gave up their second and third round picks and did not address left tackle I do not know who'll be playing left tackle for the charges here It may be you Greg so keep your phone on because I don't know where they're gonna go here It's a pretty grim outlook now They did improve the offense line this season They've got Brian Bulaga for right tackle Trey Turner is a really talented guard But left tackle is a scary position Especially for a quarterback like Herbert who had some issues when things got messy last year at Oregon His adjust yards per attempt was six point eight when he was under pressure according to pro football focus That's a little bit lower than you would hope His numbers also dipped when he faced really good competition So like he won the game for Oregon against Wisconsin But his passing efficiency in that game was pretty terrible And you know, he struggled a bit against Utah as well when he faced good defense is Justin Herbert Didn't exactly shine so my expectation my hope for Justin Herbert going to Los Angeles would be that he would go there Get to throw to those those fun weapons and they would get a left tackle in the second round That's not gonna happen now. So that's why the expectation the stock is down for Justin Herbert because I don't know what they're gonna do A left tackle they could trade for Trent Williams Maybe the future pick but it's hard to do that with their cap situation and all the guys had to give extensions to Because that defense has a lot of dudes who are gonna have to get paid here in the very near future That's why I'm a little bit soured on Justin Herbert I was hoping they'd get a tackle a left tackle in the second round or maybe trade up for a second for a tackle Which is what I thought they were doing when they traded up But I think with that that black hole on the left side of the line at left guard and left tackle It's hard to get super jazzed here So I was with you where I expect him to go to Los Angeles He will have good skill position guys But that line makes me really nervous especially given what happened to Herbert when things broke down in college So relative to expectations the air is slightly down to Justin Herbert with his new team The Chargers would have just traded back in that first round and draft for the left tackle It was maybe a different conversation today But Justin Herbert has so many weapons with Chargers that he gets a chance to start over to Rod Taylor Well, the sky may be the limit. We'll see what Justin Herbert becomes with the NFL or in the NFL And we'll see if Herbert to be a fantasy quarterback for you this year in 2020 One last player who stock is down Jim and that's another quarterback and that's Jordan love before the final quarterback that was off the board Last night goes to Green Bay And that was the pick that everybody was talking about towards the end of the draft last night and certainly here the day after the draft Love so it was almost exactly where Aaron Rodgers did That was the exact same age of Brett far boys when Rogers was drafted same age between love and Rogers on their draft night Love is not going to start in day one and the clock certainly is ticking on Aaron Rodgers here What do you think of the pick and when do you think we'll see Jordan love? Yeah? I think that when you look at the contract of Aaron Rodgers, it's pretty clear We're not going to see Jordan love for at least two seasons because there's a lot of dead money And we're not talking like Todd girly dead money on Aaron Rodgers It's like 36 million dollars in dead money if they were to move on from him within these first two years It's 17 million dollars in dead money if they were to Release him after the 2021 seasons that's after two years and then it's basically a very minimal dead cap hit heading into 2023 so Jordan love is going to sit for a minimum of two years and I would say it's probably likely three years given the way things break out and after that 30 years when the Packers have to decide if they want to pick up that fifth-year option So it's very questionable what they're going to do here and how they're going to handle things But we know from the outset Jordan love is going to sit. That's a bad thing It's also concerning where he went in the draft because there aren't a lot of success stories from that part of the draft There have now been 13 quarterbacks drafted in the top in the first round since 2000 but outside the top 20 picks and that group does include Aaron Rodgers as you mentioned and Lamar Jackson both those guys are MVP's in the NFL that's good, but none of the others have been successes They have zero top ten seasons net expected points and one top 15 season that one top 15 season was by Jason Campbell So I'm not sure you're necessarily classifying him as a success story either. So love is going to sit They don't have a ton of playmakers around him at the skill position, which could change by 2022 whenever he winds up being the starter and that he didn't get a huge vote of confidence from Evaluators by allowing him to drop this far in the draft So it's really tough to love anything about the situation for Jordan love He you will get him at a discounted price in Dynasty drafts now because people will realize that this landing spot is not good But even that discounted price. I'm not sure I'm gonna buy in I had questions around the talent going in and now I have questions around the landing spot as well I kind of think that if you are someone who wanted to buy into Jordan love in fantasy This was the worst-case scenario you could have got yeah Because we're not gonna see Jordan love anytime soon. Although. I will say iron Rodgers has rose of the injury probe over the past few years It takes a lot of big hits the shoulders have obviously been a problem for him Jordan love now a solid backup at least we think we pre-may I think my favorite stat from last night Well, since Aaron Rodgers was drafted 15 years ago The only skill position hacker the Packers have drafted in the first round quarterback That was last night with Jordan love no weapons for our Rodgers no help for our Rodgers Are we seeing the end of Aaron Rodgers? Coming soon Nothing for us here on the fan bill hurry up Jim. This has been a blast I cannot wait for the rest of the drafts and I'm sure next week. We will talk about some more winners and losers Yeah, Greg There's gonna be a lot to discuss next week too because we're gonna see a lot of running backs off the board tonight We'll see maybe some front quarterback spots see where Jalen Hertz goes a lot of wide receivers too So tonight is going to be potentially even more fantasy impactful what we saw last night So we're back again Monday to wrap that up I am looking forward to that and I hope you have a fantastic weekend. Enjoy the rest of the draft Absolutely you too Jim. This has been a blast I cannot wait to talk more with you next week a lot of wide receivers left a lot of running backs left We haven't seen a tight end go here either. I know you're anxiously awaiting Jake from so so much to talk about next week For Jim's honest, I am Greg sauce, but thanks so much for watching the Fandall hurry up Enjoy the rest of the drafts. Enjoy the weekend. I'll see you back here next week for another edition of the Fandall hurry up