 Welgoon o Toffy TV. Joined by Stee in the Sheave on me and Pedd. She's going to have a quick chat about this Bramleymore doc. Consultation that the council have got on their website till Friday. Listen, there's a lot of other stuff going on in the world that is far more important than this. But sometimes I think it does you good just to have a chat about something else because, you know, we know that life has got to go on. And I do honestly think it's good to have a chat about something else. And also on that, this is happening on Friday. So it's not like it's been cancelled. It has to be done. The Everton Heritage Society sent a letter in last week. Basically the council have got everything up, all the ground plans. We've seen all this, we've sent it with me a while ago. Everything about the stadium and then there's a section on there where you can leave your comments for or against whatever. This is for the council, not for Everton. It's not another consultation. This is a public consultation to get any grievances in what you would think it would support. Or support into the council by Friday. So the Everton Heritage Society, which is obviously looks at everything. And I think it's quite key really because they do, you know, the heritage is important to them. You know, made up of historians and people like that. Wrote quite a passion in support of it. The big thing that is, if anything was ever going to stop this stadium that we've been hearing about for the last 12 months, it was the Heritage Society of it. It's where the location is. We've heard a lot about UNESCO. We've heard a lot about English Heritage. Basically the conservation of the site. Don't forget the doxers are obviously really important to Liverpool. Not only in historical terms due to trade and the city becoming the city, but also in terms of the second world war and what the city enjoyed through the second world war. The strategic location of the dox and everything meant that. I think Liverpool was the second most bombed city out there. Most bombed city, sorry, away from London with Coventry because they made a lot of parts in Coventry. Oh my God, I know a lot about this. I should stop watching tell of five. Anyway, so things like the dox, filling in the dox, the wall, the buildings around there, the big part of Liverpool. So to get the Heritage side on is huge because it's not just a box taking an exercise. These people, if they felt like leaving Goulderswmparch was against their beliefs, and they'd say so, but they haven't. They've said this is the right time. It's the right location. It's the right design. It's in keeping with our history, with the city's history. And that in mind, we are excited to move forward. Hopefully it makes the whole process run that much smoother, the process they're in now. There's talk of maybe government inquiries and stuff that might maybe take that side away from it now because the Heritage side are all on board. I think what I'm doing is easy, like you've just said. I think the government, the minister was still looking at it, I think, because I think the nature of the build, the nature of the project means that he will probably look at it. But it's all about having the support of everybody, like Perth just said. Everton Heritage decides to look at all of those things that he's just said. You also spoke about the fact that Everton are leaving a legacy in L4, they're leaving a present in L4, which is key as well. I mean, Steve, you've been impressed with the architectural side about the lens that the club has gone to try to fit in with the surrounding area? Yeah, because at the end of the day Everton are a big part of the city's history. At the end of the day, like Liverpool. And from the council's point of view and from the Heritage point of view, it's good to keep that in the city still because I feel if you were to talk that away from it, then you've probably taken a bit of the character away from the new ground when it comes. So I think the ground looks unbelievable, like I'm excited and I'm excited for my little lad who's going to be 7 or 8 when it's built. But like I said, it's good the way they're going to be doing with the goodness in the area as well, the way they're going to be helping that area out. Because a lot of clubs sometimes just leave it and it looks a bit scruffy, but it looks like they're redeveloping the whole area, which is good for the city as well. At the end of the day, it's going to bring in a lot of money for the city and a lot of jobs, which is one of the most important things. I mean, without talking about opportunities, obviously with what's going on, I mean, Steve knows more than anybody what's happened to him this week in terms of employment. It should be looked at as a positive as well because it is going to create employment on that site. There's going to be a lot of short-term destruction of people's lives, but hopefully it is short-term and it will all bounce back hopefully very quickly. Having something like this and again, it's not being opportunist or anything like that. If you got to June, July and someone said this is going to happen, and you know in September, October, we're going to start building this, then people would suddenly go, I feel a lot better because, listen, we spoke loads this week about what's happening in the world at the moment. One of the things that is going to be a major driving force is the uncertainty over people's lives, whether they're jobs and where they're getting food from and all that kind of thing. That affects mental health and people losing a bat with mental health, which might have already been fragile anyway, could see a lot more long-term destruction than this axle virus is and without saying ever, not some kind of saviours If this was there and suddenly a lot of people who do live hand to mouth, especially people working the building site, that's where the building site for the odd years, you know what I mean? It's been practically forever. In fact, that's been so long in his job that the people he works for didn't even know what to give him for his long service award because he's been there long at any point he else. So those people face uncertainty all the time and we've seen big things recently in the city collapse, we've seen the hospital go through different things, we've seen different buildings, there's buildings down in Liverpool at the moment that have half built because either the building firm, when both store the building firm were doing something maybe they shouldn't have been doing. So a project like this would give stability to the city centre, to workers in the city and to building companies in the city for three years and off the back of that, that would be huge news. And then the other thing as well is that when a project goes ahead like this, it's the offshoot of it so it's people who've got land around it, it's people who are going, you know what, there's a stadium, there's people, I'm going to have a hotel there to create buildings. Opportunities isn't there. Think about the smallest possible thing is whatever the moment you've got, let's say you've got a food van, right? Say you work at the match in the fans forum at the moment or whatever, there's no footy, no-one's really going out. Are you really going to take a chance buying food off someone off a van at the moment in your own head, not saying they're not hygiene. So if you again, if you've got something like that and you can keep the wolves from the door for maybe a couple of months or whatever, then this news comes up and you go, you know what, achod get down the dog road and I can pack up and I can, how many thousands of people are going to be working on this that need to be fed at 12 o'clock or 1 o'clock or whatever? You know, they all go over. Sam and Trans and all. That's the lowest thing. That's the lowest thing, you know, and that's how it works. That's how it works. This will go for three, people go out and say, oh my God, for three years, I'm going to have stability and that's all we want in our lives. We want stability. So this could be very, very, a very, very positive thing when we need it most, you know, the little bit of light. I mean, for those of us who own it, obviously we're massively biased. We want this to happen anyway. This is the mad thing. It's like, no, people are like, oh, I'm going to be really sad and all. I have none of that. I just want to get to this place as much as I love Goodersham Park. I just want to get to this place as fast as I can. I'm on Goodersham Park when this is getting half built and we're nearly in. But at the moment, I'm just like, let's just get there. I can't wait. So, yeah, it is. So at the moment, listen, going back to what you've said before about the designs, the more you look at it, the more it becomes like more and more alive. Like you look at, I mean, we've seen this image loads and loads, but now you look at some of the fly-through videos of the moment you see the other side and the fan zone and what they're doing actually to restore historical elements because it's just a thing. That's all a tower of gold. Yeah, this is something I sort of, I miss from my youth is. On the other side of that road is the heritage. My uncle had a market stall on the heritage for like five years or whatever. It must have been longer for however long it was there. Nearly every Sunday I was down there at, you know, going to see my uncle going round all the stores. And I was always intrigued by the history side of it. And one of the big things I used to love is, knowing you've seen the train tracks on the floor and you're like, where did they go? Where did they lead to? I used to work on the railway and I was fascinated by the railway because underneath Liverpool there's loads of, like, tunnels that people don't know about. And I was very privy. I could go, like, I've run from the top of James Street to the bottom of James Street downstairs. Oh, God, there's a lot of hidden places. And all these things, these old lines, I love the fact that everyone's putting some life back into them. And it's, that is our heritage and that's just stored in our heritage because nowhere else, nowhere will happen if we don't. One day someone will just come, like they have done already, and put tarmac over the top of it, and all that's gone forever then. And you hear all the time about how, oh, we found this, like, this street on the Liverpool, or we found this thing or that. And it's like, what if you could preserve it in time and as the time goes by, people go to visit and go, what was this railway track? And someone goes, oh, we can, suddenly you can do something about that with it. I don't know. That allows, used to say that through this stadium, all these old elements of the docks don't, you can start finding out the history. Cos otherwise, all what happened is, one day in the future, when all these people don't have power, all these heritage societies in Esco and all that stuff, someone will just come along and go, I'll just dig that up. That's your history. That's your history that they're covering up. And everything that I try to maintain that. And it'd be lovely if they had, like, I don't know where they will own up, but say, like, the pump house, explain them what is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I imagine I've probably already been thinking about that. Explainer, these train tracks used to link the docks to the main lines, so that this could go out and you know what, people might walk down there on a mountain today and there's a little look around and you go down the pier heads and you have a little look around and there's all the statues. Used to say they don't go down there. That's what I want to do with this stadium, make the history about the city as well. It's not just for us. This is for people coming into the city. They're going to see this huge stadium and they're going to be like, oh, let's go down there and have a look down there. And then they find more history out about the city and then they go back and they want to come back again. And then they want to tell other people just wear their mouth. And with this as well, it's going to the hotel businesses, the food business, the restaurants and the cities, while people are working on it as well. Because people are going to be coming from all across the country to work on this stadium. They're going to be putting money into this city, which is important. What people like is stability. They always say the markets like stability. They like to know what's going on. And if you can say, you can put an anchor point in the city and say this is going to be getting built for three years. That's guaranteed. All those hotels like you've just been talking about, they breathe out, they go, we can build something down there. Build another one. And we've got the 10th Street project. And all those 10 streets suddenly then go, you just said the word, that's the anchor point for all that then because they go, no matter what happens, no matter what happens in people's lives, this football stadium will bring people into the stadium. So there's a need for us then. If that is not getting built, there's chaos then. There's uncertainty. Money, as I've just said, the markets doesn't like uncertainty. You don't lend. You wouldn't lend money to me if I couldn't guarantee to you that I can pay it back. Pay it back. And this is like the guarantor for everything else. And that's what, people might think we're going over the top of that, but we're not. This is the guarantor. This is the thing at the end that goes, yes, everything else can go on. Obviously, from an aesthetic point, it means that the city stretches, sprawls from where it is, and then everything fills in, because when you go around there at the moment, there's nothing going on there. And the great thing about the stadium design, it's totally different to any other stadium, new design out there, which is important for me, because I look at a lot of stadiums these days getting built, they all look a lot the same, and it's just the same old circle, but this is different to anything out there, which is amazing. The global damage has done unbelievable. But a lot of that, for me, has to do with the surroundings as well. It's not just like a thing plonked in the middle of something, or a thing plonked in the middle of a shopping centre, or whatever, it is a thing surrounded by the city's history, and all of the brick and everything fits in. That's what I mean, you look at a lot of it, even like up and down to middles, and someone's grand, and you just say they're grand, I've just been plonked. The middle spirit is just plonked on. I went to Southampton this season. Southampton. But what the other thing is about it is, is that we take a lot of the stuff down there for granted. You go down to the Titanic Hotel, and as I said, I grew up around there, in the heritage market, you go down there, and you look at that, and you're a bit like, it's the Titanic Hotel, or do people look at it like, oh my God, this is amazing. No, the architecture, when you watch peahy blinders, and people are like, oh, that must be it, and you're like, no, no, that's the other side. That's the art in the heritage, in where the market was. You said that looks like, people are like, it looks amazing. My miss is like, she's from Manchester, and she's never really been down, the docks way, and looked around. She's like, why don't you come down here more often? But there's nothing to go down there for. Exactly. My thing is, my thing is, is when the 80s, like anyone who's all, like our age, our generational, you know, members like the boys from the black stuff, which is a TV show in the 80s, about Liverpool, people in the little struggle to get work, you know, and the funny thing about that show was, it had a lot of mental health, men getting mental health problems, you know. Cos he couldn't fade the family. One of them ended up shooting his rabbit. Cos he honestly did, cos he got in such a state, that he shot his rabbit, the kids, he killed it. And anyway, so there's a scene in it though, when one of the fellas is walking, this older fella, who was a docher, and he's walking him in a wheelchair, and he's walking around the old Albedoch, and it's just covered in silt. It's not the alphabet. Before it's been. There's no water, it's covered in silt. And he's walking around, he's telling them how, the history, how when all the ships used to come in for more, all these older places. So he's from like the 40s and the 50s and the 60s fellas, and you're just looking, and you're like, when you watch, you're looking back. If anyone wants to say it, that was the Albedoch. You'd be amazed, cos it's like, the Albedoch now, which has gone through its own, its own different things, but it's now called the Royal Albedoch, and it's an amazing place. That was there Friday, the restaurant and stuff, they had in gusto, and walking along in it. You're walking along, just looking at it. If anyone goes there like, either in the winter, or summer's a good time, like late on when all the lights are on, but you've still got that light, it looks amazing. People, I remember when I was on the cabs, and you drive past them, people go, this place looks amazing, how gorgeous is this? So when you look at that area now, think about that in five years time, if that can have the same effect. We look at it now, and we go, some people are tired to picture, or people go, you can't be turning that into something else. And you go, look if someone had said that, if someone had said to the Albert Doc in the 80s, this is a world heritage site, you can't do nothing, leave the silt there. Now, you'd be like, it would have turned into nothing, and all the other things that would have generated to the side of it, the arena, and all the stuff we get from that, the conference centre, there's more stuff going on, the King's Docs just been given, granted to build something else on it, so that's going to have more stuff, so if you think about that, and think, if we just leave it, it'll just get worse and worse and worse, and like you just said, there's some amazing buildings down there that we don't utilise at the moment, and that's what this stadium will help do, so I hope that all these people who are involved in ESCO, and English Heritage, that they understand that they're a city, and again this is something I appreciated when I worked on the cab, a city is a live and breathe thing, but I actually miss not having the, not going into the city, and being part of the city, it's a really hard thing to understand, to quantify, there's almost like a boost that you feel, when you're in and around the city, and when you're not working there, you don't get the same feeling, that's created by people, and going and seeing amazing things, and having a shared sense of how much you love a place, and I think that's what this will help with. And I think now, just to finish, when you're down there, obviously you haven't been at the Royal Live of Buildings, and that's incredible. You look at that waterfront now, and you look along there with all the buildings going up there, it just looks incredible now, and this would make it stretch the way along, because obviously the new cruise terminal, that's coming as well, so you're going to see, when you're coming into Liverpool, particularly the cruisers that are coming in, we see them more off, more among, there's going to get bigger and bigger and coming along that way, the front's going to be incredible, and this is going to be the start of it. It'll make you even pradder when you're seeing it. I'm actually looking forward to seeing it grow each month from month from month. A quick good way of looking at it, if anyone's seen pictures of the Atletico Stadium from the river, and how it looks, it looks amazing, it looks amazing, and if you were to get, like you've just said, cruise ships coming into Liverpool, like we do now, as they're coming down, and they just, the first thing they see, the first question they'll be like is, what's that? What is that? What is that? And then suddenly from that, the city will start there, and from that, all this development we'll see, and it will transform, and literally all it takes is, a few people have just got to make a common sense decision, as far as I know what that is. But a very common sense decision, and just say, yes, let's go. Because there are literally, literally, no, no, like negatives to this. No, it's not like that. Like if someone said to me, oh, if you put a stadium, it's going to uproot all these beds, or something, and blah, blah, blah, then I can understand that would be something negative, but there is nothing negative. And it's not going to happen to me. It's a win-win for everyone. So listen, that you've got till Friday. I think they should send this video to the Heritage people. Well, there you go. You've got till Friday to register any negative comments about it, if you want to, but also support, massively support, because for the whole city, it's going to be incredible. So yeah, have a look. We'll put in the description the link to where you go to, you can email, we'll go online. So get that done. You've got till Friday to do that, so make sure you register your voice. It's support. It's what you can do, isn't it? And then fingers crossed it gets done. Thanks for watching. Give the video a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't. You've got more videos to join us on Patreon. 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