 Hello and welcome once again to the youth ministry course. Hope you all are doing well. Awesome Great, let's just get into the Chapter 6 where we stopped in the last class. Okay, just quickly pray. Although we submit this hour into your hands Lord everything that we learn I pray Holy Spirit that you will come and help us understand and give us the wisdom the knowledge to Go about everything that you've called us to do father Jesus name Right so in the last class we looked at a bunch of challenges and we tried understanding the different generations It would get right giving them, you know defying generations From the 40s to the 60s 70s 80s and all the way to the generation Z Gen Z as we call it all the post millenials are trying to understand You know their lifestyle really and how it's led to a bunch of different trends You know that is being set in the societies and communities in countries even Okay, so today we'll continue with a chapter and then chapter six and we'll see how okay now One of the things that we've learned is just understanding the challenges is not enough It's it's it's the beginning. It's the first step to you know finding. Okay. What can we do now? What what next how can we? You know cater to this generation that is being impacted and influenced by all these different trends or areas, right? And again, it's very simple for at the moment You know how we would cater is you know without a doubt Is having an effective social media medium to engage with your young people, right? So in impacting millenials and engaging them in effectively one of the ways is the use of technology and social media Right. So if we read the Gospels Most of the times we see where Jesus would go to where people were Until people started following him Right and so now the crowd or people most of them are on social media and I think you know It's and and the church the global church You know has been doing a good job in terms of engaging their audience online And so, you know and and that way I think we are doing a good job and we can do better Continue to do better But if you're in your church if you're leading your youth ministry or you have a youth leader who's leading a youth ministry You know, just check with that person about their strategy to engage the youth online like what are they doing? What is their strategy or you know, what's the game plan? so to say to engage the millenials or the generations II on online because it as And again, I just not to re-emphasize this but then we know that For example, you take an example of a relationship this generation, especially post Gen Z They don't understand the difference between an online and an offline relationship Okay, if I say that so they don't really understand the difference between an online and offline for them everything is the same right they think that they They have learned to swim by reading about it online Okay So these are the ways your hand has to be certain angle and your feet has to go up and down in a certain angle at a certain force You've read about it and now I know how to swim so pretty much, you know and also Two individuals can have a full-blown a A proper relationship on line without even having met face-to-face You know like a proper romantic relationship Online is is a possibility in this day and age and so asking yourself again I think the church globally worldwide has learned if there's anything that we've learned through the pandemic is that Technology is the new Sunday Right technology is the new Sunday Everybody there was I don't think there was a single church on the planet that did not opt to go or at least try to exploring You know the online option Right the streaming option was always available, but that was always secondary Everybody, you know would preferred going in person And whatnot so we didn't really think it was important or even necessary for that matter But we've all learned we've all adapted the global church has adapted and kind of realized that yeah Hey technology is the new Sunday, and it's here to stay. It's not going to change Right, it's and it's only going to advance You know if there's one thing that technology is going to do is that it's only going to get better and better and more advanced It's here to stay Okay, so Having understood that technology is powerful We need to ask a few questions as an are we communicating with our young people in ways where they can engage back with us using technology Are you is there a social media platform where you are available to engage with the young people from your church? And you know and they engage back with you It's more when we think of social media or a page for that matter We the only thing that comes to our mind is is just Producing contents and throwing it out there producing contents and throwing it out there that anybody can do that Isn't it the whole point of using a technology really well is making it engaging Right, how can you get them to connect with you? It's not just that you know, okay? I know the bunch of things. I just want to share about it It's not just one-way traffic So that you need to ask yourself that okay create community in new ways using technology create new educational pathways online to help people grow in a biblical knowledge in whatnot so Effective use of technology You know online the online medium and social media is going to be effective in your youth ministry The second effective thing in where you can impact your young people in church is Leadership and it's not just any leadership. It is relational leadership Right relational leadership. Now. I know there's a a Lot of talk about leadership the importance of of being a leader and all this pressure of To the leaders being a good leader, and if you're a good leader, you need to be a better leader and You know, there's always this thing but What I'm trying to say is that? In the last decade or so The perspective of the leadership has changed a little bit to this generation And so this generation prefers a more of a relational leadership Versus the authoritarian leadership Now you can read all the books by John Maxwell He is like the boss on this topic of leadership You should at least read one book of his on leadership and again as mentioned, there's There's no lack for resources on the topic of leadership that you can read on that you can study on and So yeah, having observed this is again one of my observation based on my observation and also observation made by certain leaders worldwide is that the young people these days they respond to a relational leadership right so and Not necessarily like an authoritarian leadership. There's an excerpt from John Maxwell's book that I've shared an image in your notes. I hope hoping that you can look at it In it says book called the five levels of leadership from John Maxwell It relates position or authority to the lowest level of leadership Right, so let's let's just look at that, you know table of what John Maxwell is trying to say So your you are now a leader Okay, and so let's say your It's let's go from the bottom all the way to the top So You've been given this position of a leadership first of all leadership is not a position But most of it look at it that way. So there's a position of leadership with that People will follow you because they have to That's positional leadership people will follow you Because they have to them. They don't necessarily have to like you But they will follow you because they have to and they have no choice and you aren't you've been given that a position You're in that position or not authority. So that's one level of leadership. It starts there The other level is the permission-based leadership where okay, you are building relationships and here There's a slight change people follow you because they Want to Okay, people follow you because they want to because they think okay, there is some Accountability here. There is some connect or a rapport between the leaders Leadership and those he is leading the team all the people that he is leading All right, and then the third level is the production. So it's it's very results focused now as Well, so people follow because of what you have done for the organization Okay, so they they see that you are the you are the first one to come to Do a program and the last one to go and they see your sacrifice They see that, you know, you are a man or a woman of principle You're a man and a woman of value and character You're a man and a woman or another woman of integrity and all of that So they will see all of that And then they will follow you because of what you have done or doing for the organization That's another kind of leadership. You know, you're saying an example kind of thing and Then there's the fourth level which is the people's development So people follow because of what you have done for them Okay, so you see again, there's a slight change from people will follow you for what you've done for the organization was the previous one now here taking it up a notch by Where people will follow you because of what you have done for them You know and they see what you are doing. So, you know, you invest into their lives You take time to understand them getting to know their challenges It's not about just giving orders to get things done But you take time to nurture them To equip them and walk with them and they see that you are investing into their lives And then they choose to follow you and Then finally it's the pinnacle in this level of leadership is Respect and then people follow because of who you are and what you represent People follow you because of who you are and what you represent. It's very interesting from level one to level four. It's about doing By doing for the organization doing for the people building relationships and all of that While all of that is important It's very interesting to see that the pinnacle of the leadership You know a stage is that they follow you for who you are and What you represent Right, it boils down to your character your integrity your values your principles and and whatnot. So so Yeah, a relational leadership is very important. This is another book that I would recommend you to read It's called turn the ship around Turn the ship around by L. David MacKer So he is a retired captain from the US Navy and he wrote this book So in the summary of this book is available online if you want to don't want to read the book It's very interesting. You can you should The summary is that when when David was made leader or a captain of Of the ship Amongst the fleet of ships his ship was considered to be the worst Ship worse it had like people of just no experience They had there was no quality Nothing, it's in the notes con you can look at it Turn the ship around by L. David Yeah, it's in the notes and I think it's in page 29 you can take a look at it I've mentioned the name of the book and the author And so basically it's about how this captain David he you know transforms that that people in the ship and You know just by giving them freedom in terms of leadership He creates this different levels of leadership and so and then now that ship later goes on to becomes become the best ship in the fleet of the Navy and Hence the book of being called the turn the ship around it's nice play words, isn't it? so He goes on to say that lead from authority, but not with authority And they're saying people don't care how much you know until they know how much you care It's another thing. So One of the quotes from his book. He says is leadership should mean giving control rather than taking control and creating leaders rather than Forging followers now there's a huge part of it that I agree and then and then The last aspect of it not as much That is, you know that we are to create leaders and not forge followers because where I disagree I'm not sure disagree is a Right word or if it's too strong of a word, but just a difference in opinion is that we need followers to As I mentioned you can just do a survey Or a study of the number of the leadership conferences that happens around the globe and the number of books on leadership or the number of the articles or resources on the topic of leadership versus Followership right Our societies our communities our schools our colleges Our places at work our workplaces. Everybody seems to only emphasize on this thing called a leadership But being a good follower is very very crucial. That's the beginning the first step of Becoming a good leader is you learn to become a good follower There is a book. Oh Gosh, I know the name of the book Armabero's there's a book called Armabero forget the author Teddy Nance something if anybody's heard of the book Sure, but it's it's a must read book again The Armabero's the importance of being an Armabero to the king for a season in your life And then before you know before you get promoted So learning to serve before you lead is again very crucial it bow it it molds you it builds you Right, and we see that in the life of David and versus sol Okay, so let's not go too deep into that But so when we talk about this topic of leadership, it's a very important good leaders are always have always been good followers And in our context of in ministry now You can be a good leader only because you you are a good follower of the our ultimate leader of our ultimate captain That is Jesus, right? So There's two effective things you know One is effective You know strategy for your online and social media audience and being a relational leader is very crucial Okay another thing is Is having effective a program and events now we'll talk about the program and events in youth ministry Earlier in chapter 3 we looked at You know we have these five different audiences, right? We have five different purposes from worship ministry worship ministry evangelism Fellowship and you know just baptizing them Bringing them into the family So we have all these different purposes and we can't accomplish or achieve all of these five purposes in one event or one program And so we choose to cater Or design Strategically one event or one program to a certain audience Okay, what is important is you know while you do these events or programs It is very very important that you have a post event a briefing or a review meeting Right post event review meeting Some of the things that we do that I have done with the team is mentioned in the notes Yeah, we look at we don't we don't have anything fancy. We don't call this process I mean whatever we just a post post event review meeting We do oppose the youth camps youth retreats you come by in youth meetings and whatnot and so We ask this question takes a good bad missing confusing So for example in good we ask, okay, what went well What were the wins? Why was this thing a success? We talk about it We let the team members talk about it or explain why this was good white what worked And then the bad what went wrong. This is I think very important We need to address in the program of a program of an event of what went wrong. What didn't work? Did we try something that failed? That will help us No change our plans for the next meeting And then what is missing? Did we forget anything, right? And then Confusing so What what was our goal or purpose for doing this? Did we accomplish it? Were we clear in our communication? Did everyone get the point of what we were trying to do? Okay, so these are some of the things that we ask ourselves as post event. I think this is very important crucial it will Help you guys as well. Any questions or any thoughts so far? Okay? all right So and and the depth there's another point is the depth in spiritual discipleship you know youth meetings should not just be a place of where Get together and just have a have you know Fun and whatnot all of that is important I sound so bad when I say youth meeting should not be a place of fun, right? All of that is important, but get together this can happen anywhere Anybody can have a get together, you know bunch of groups and whatnot And and I think it's very important that while we have fun and fellowship and whatnot We should never miss the focus on spiritual discipleship. That is the whole point of it All is that never forget that you are a shepherd Right having a shepherd's heart for for the people that you're leading is extremely crucial guiding them leading them providing for them protecting them and you know providing in terms of spiritual Teaching a bit because in sound teaching is very very important And if you have your leaders your core team leaders and you're and even us as leaders We should keep remembering reminding ourselves that we are shepherd and not a star because again, I think it's I don't know what it is about this day and age. It's very easy to become Celebrity shepherd You you're saying right It's it's very easy for for pain or success or you know People genuinely celebrating you can get to your head and think okay You're a star now and somewhere it is possible for us to lose a picture that we are still a shepherd We still continue to lead you know Lead them with the shepherd's heart Right so everything to do with Pastoring comes out of the shepherd's heart Because the shepherd exists for the sheep the sheep don't exist. You know for the shepherd kind of a thing, but We continue to you know thrive for them I love this court by Tom Crandall who used to be the I think who heads the youth ministry in Bethel church at the wedding He says if we don't give the next generation an encounter with God There won't be a generation to carry the kingdom of God Okay, that's that's again It's he's using judges chapter 2 verse 10 in his own words And if we don't give the next generation an encounter with God, there won't be a generation to carry the kingdom of God right And so again with everything that we've been learning and how can we continue to do so? is one of a couple of things that we emphasized in our youth ministry at APC is setting a culture Because if a culture is not set for you If you don't set a culture, sorry the culture will be set for you Right and so the culture that you are creating is the culture that you allow For a successful youth ministry a culture is very crucial. No culture is very crucial for again any organization a school institution Workplace whatever the culture is important. What kind of a culture are you setting? Where it could be positive negative, you know in in even at home is very important. There's culture of Family prayer the culture of no gossip the culture of no you know, no Whatever backbiting or whatever you want to call Or all of those things can exist and that can be the culture at you know at any place There's no culture of family prayer. There's no culture of There is the culture of gossip that everybody gossips about everybody Etc etc, right? So you get what I'm saying So it is very important to ask yourself again. What culture is your ministry? Allowing Because the culture that you are creating is the culture that you allow and so We had to again There is no such thing as over communicating We had to put in a few points to say, okay These are the things that we want to see as a culture amongst our youth or youth ministry overall Right and so one of the first point is the come as you are That everybody is accepted Nobody will be charged for how they look what they wear Or what their past is You know what what they have done their sins or mistakes or whatnot Because with so many options that are available for young people it is important that as a youth ministry We commit to a creating a culture where young people can come as they are and feel safe Right regardless of what problems and whatnot, right? So be being intentional about creating a culture of acceptance A culture where young people can walk in from wherever and can simply be themselves It was very crucial It see again some of these points are birthed out of I wish I had all these Things existed in the days when I was a youth when I was being led by the youth leaders and whatnot and so Unfortunately, no, you know, there was this thing where You know, I'm not gonna mention the leaders names. Obviously all the church names I'm just saying all of these things were missing In in a church where there was youth ministry and where I was as where I was the youth there you know, there was this constant tension of a Fear of how how I was looked upon or judged for the way I look because I'm talking about almost 18 years ago I had a little long hair and looked a little bit more ridiculous but Yeah, so coming as you are letting young people know that they can come just as they are how Who you know, whoever they are and who they are they can come they are welcomed is very important And you are teaching your team members that and your intern your team members are talking to the young people as you know We are creating this culture and then you know, every and everybody feels welcomed Okay, so come as you are and encouragement was is another key Creating a culture of encouragement Right because in the world where people focus on tearing others down in just a comment You know, it was very important that we be a ministry where we build people Hey, just remember, you know, you remember this instance in John chapter 8 was stoning a woman caught in the act of adultery You know, everybody took up their stones in this day and age We don't literally take us the stones up yet, but we are you know In many ways we do that with our comments or you know, it's very easy. You get what I'm saying, right? It's very metaphoric nowadays In a day and age where it's very easy for us to bring people down tear them down hurt them Let us be a ministry and create a culture where we can build people Right and so and that happens with the culture of encouragement A word of encouragement to someone on the day that they are being discouraged It's like an oxygen to them or another lifeline to them. You just help them get through that day You know that they've been they've happened. They're going through a very hard time So having a culture of encouragement is very important and the third thing is Communicating your why is very crucial communicating your why and your audience Eventually will know why you are doing what you are doing is Crucial Okay, so when people know why you do what you do they can lean in and own it with even more conviction Okay, why are you creating this culture? Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this event? Why are you doing this program? And so when your why becomes clear you have, you know, you You have their their undivided attention Okay, so Simply because we have very limited time with our youth every week So we have to make it count so creating a culture of knowing the why and then finally you are creating a culture of commitment Commitment is key, you know, and that starts with both ways When when your youth sees that you are being committed like no matter what You know, you are again building a culture Now when the pandemic hit you know in 2020 As most ministries we all went online as well including youth ministry and so for two years two years, right? two years or so every Friday from the third week of March 2020 the third week of March 2020 till Till The end November 2022 every Friday we would meet for We had online youth meetings Now the numbers increased they would drop the attendees would increase You know the number of participants would increase and drop increase and drop increase and drop But sometimes it can just be it'll only be the the core team that is that is attending the youth meeting But what was important is that you would continue to do that You you will continue to show and display That you know that you are committed to what you are doing You know after the program after the youth meeting you would share the notes with all the youths and whatnot So everybody knows that the meeting happened and eventually what that instills is that It instills in your youth to be committed Now they will be committed to you know attend the programs or serve in the church and what not Okay, so under commitment the the two things that we looked at was That is yeah, one is come commitment and the other is them being part of a community Okay, I think this is pretty huge You know when it comes to the context of youth ministry and young people wanting to be part of the community There's a couple of questions that we need to ask is why we need why why is building a community? important And there are multiple scriptures in the Bible that for us that we can read in Romans 12 4 to 5 It says just as our bodies have many parts and each of each part has a special function So it is with Christ's body. We are many parts of one body, but we all belong to each other and Some scriptures and Proverbs that I like in Proverbs 11 14 15 22 and 24 6 it says but in the multitude of counselors There is safety But in the multitude of counselors, they are established and in the multitude of counselors again, there is safety. So So community is God's idea, you know, it began when he said it is not good for a man to be alone kind of starts there and again instilling instilling this Culture of commitment and this culture of community and being part of community is very crucial Now I want to share with Do you all have your notes with you guys your PDF? Yes, first. Yeah, okay. So if you look if you go to page 33, right? If you're there, okay page 33 So you You'll see an image with numbers simple addition Kind of a thing. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay, Avani has it. Come has it Everybody else has it because I'm gonna ask you this simple question Feel free to unmute your mic and speak. Okay, everybody there looking at the same page. I Hope you are Actually, I try and share so that way that way everybody can look me. Okay. Cool. Everybody's looking at this, right? Cool. So, yeah, what what stands out for you in this? It's a test for you guys so you tell me How It's not a tricky question. Okay, by the way, it's a very simple test Some of you are like sweating as they go mathematics. No Avani, what do you think? Mangi Rose Four plus two. Yeah, go ahead Four plus two is because the seven Right, right. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. Thanks a lot. Okay. What else? What about the others? Mangi Avni, I think it should be First number as three it should be a in a sequence So it should be three four five six and the second number should be one two three four And then accordingly the number should add up. No, no, Christopher. It's not that complicated and all Christopher It's a very simple thing There's no sequence in us Okay Anything else anyone else Avani? or Sorry Anyone googling it. It's not worth googling and all guys. Okay What I see is plus the three plus one four four plus and five is right then they are adding The top four and the five with diagonally two and then seven and then Yeah, no Avani. It's not complicated Okay, good See the Now we're all talking about coming in building community. Isn't it one of the reasons why Why we have to build community or reach out to people is because god loves people And you know people it's the people that make the community or a christened community Um Now everybody's answer is right Right, everybody said four plus two is uh, it's not seven. It's six Nobody said, uh, you know that there are three that are right and Everybody pointed out the one thing that was wrong. Nobody said there's three that is correct So what what what we're trying to say is it is very easy I think it's very natural For us as human beings to see a flaw in someone And then leave the rest of the good part Right. Um, so it you hear what I'm saying, right? The dust is the dust is available everywhere on the road. It's right there or right on top But the dirt is Right on the surface, but if you want the diamond We need to dig deep Isn't it? There is there's a diamond in every individual and for that which we just can't see You know bite in their face value and whatnot. So and that is part of being building a christ centered community is looking beyond their surface level Shortcomings everybody has shortcomings. Everybody has flaws Isn't it? It is very easy to look at that one mistake that one wrong thing and they completely ignore The three that is correct Right. How did we learn this? How did we come to this point? Um, and so it's very important that as we lead You know this youth ministry or any ministry for that matter that We build a christ centered community. There are a lot of scriptures that I've given for you all in the notes I would encourage you to do that. So building a culture of acceptance of encouragement And and knowing the why is extremely crucial that would lead to building a culture of commitment and community Okay, um, and there are some more scriptures there for you all in the notes and and because I'm trying to combine the chapter six ending and with chapter seven as well because When you when the young people see that you are committed that that you are going after that you are God his presence his love with all your passion and zeal and with with full of fire That cannot be ignored by the people that you are leading and they will want to be just like you Right, they will want to be just like you and that is how you also ignite passion among the youth is simply by Uh, you know, you you you be the culture that you want to see You as a leader be the culture or being the culture That you want to see and then people eventually see and see how passionate you are and How full of fire and zeal you are for god and then they will follow you in everything that you do Okay, and I mean some of the questions that you can ask yourself is are you on fire for god for god's Manifest presence is your heart burning for the fire of his holiness? Uh, you know, are you on fire for evangelism? Is your heart, you know, is your heart burning to reach the lost? Are you are you as your heart going after? You know the wonder and the beauty of his holiness and to see Jesus and displaying his majesty to the rest of the world Are you displaying all of that for the young people to see? Um, you know, again, it's not just that you do one thing on the stage for them to see and live a different life That's not what you get. What we are saying, right? What I'm saying is um All your ministry what you're leading should be an overflow of what you do in the secret And so, you know, when everything that you do right in the secret place with him um, everything else becomes Easy leading creating a culture to building a community a Christ centered community and what not Yeah, I mean that's about what I have to share Any thoughts that do you all have? I first have a question on On allowing everyone to come as they are Yeah Say like come as you are and and Jesus if uh, we couple of couple of months back we uh In in our local church. We had we have the same policy come as you are and then By God's grace or God's willing you get saved however People the young people coming in in in in in the youth meeting with uh intend to sell drugs and uh easily Drug culture is easily spread among our our youth. Um, so question I have pastor How do you manage or how do you control or how do you? Look after your youth so to avoid things like that to happen Yeah so Now again, this is about uh So there's two ways of looking at it mangi and the way I would look at it This is how I would look at it anybody else is free to share their thoughts is One is uh, when I say come as you are I'm looking at an individual Right, and you know when Jesus died with sinners. Uh, look the gospel of Luke is another Tagline sort of say for the gospel of Luke is as Jesus the friend of sinners You know Every time Jesus met with a sinner. He empowered the sinner to live a holy life Right, and that's the that's the point of all of this when you say come as you are You are accepting them as they come and individually with their pass and say whatnot and but then you know You empower them to live a better life as a Christian Okay, so that that's your heart for them and then uh, you know, there can be individuals where You know come in with an intention to uh, say um Do things like what you just mentioned your other responsibility as a shepherd is also to Guard them and protect them uh, and uh, so I would Have a talk with my leadership with my senior pastor and get it into his notice as well and And you know seek his counsel as well in his wisdom as to how we can best handle the situation in the context of your church in the context of the culture of your community and whatnot, so That's how I would approach this whole thing. My is Keeping my pastor a senior pastor in the loop about this thing as well. It's very crucial So and this can happen in any different situations us and that there's one happening right now in our church I don't want to mention but yeah Having the leadership involved in the decision-making of how to protect Your your flock is very important. Yeah, Christopher. Yes Yeah, I just want to confirm faster. Is this the last class you're having for this course Yes, Christopher, right. Yeah, so I I was just going through chapter seven and my initial sort of uh Trying to understand the work passion and how it relates to suffering also um, and uh, you know what never really uh You know, I mean this first time for this actually, okay, so um, um, so maybe you could just explain that a little bit please and also Wow, you know, what's I mean? How do you how do you view the the movie passion of Christ? Because I mean there's some sort of conflicting views of you know that that movie also so just Yeah, sure. So again now, um A passion I If you just look at the dictionary definitions that's mentioned there is uh, is a strong and barely controllable emotion Intense enthusiasm and all of that is great. But then it comes from the root latin word Uh, it simply means pass your uh means To suffer long suffering Long suffering right and so and this week Is called the passion week for a reason The last week when you know the week where jesus is you know cruciferan whatnot. So this week is known as the passion week And so how it relates to us in our ministry and whatnot is When we say i'm passionate about this ministry Uh, it's a it's yes It is up your enthusiasm towards either young people and whatnot But then you know, we go back to one of the points that we learned is you're looking at this ministry or the chat As that in from a marathon kind of a perspective. So when you think, uh, you know Because of all this enthusiasm and excitement and whatnot that you want to interest into the young people's lives And when you don't see that happening immediately Uh, you can get discouraged and and you know end your ministry thing very prematurely But is having this hard understanding that okay passion is All of this enthusiasm and excitement and whatnot and also it means to you know long suffer You know suffer long is okay. Be patient. Just just go on with this like it's a love is long suffering, isn't it? um, so that's the whole perspective of it and um You know I like the movie the passion of christ just as is uh, i haven't been too critical about it But I don't want to comment too much on that stuff. I like the movie I just watch it for what it is the way he's trying to communicate it. I know they can get into a lot of nitty-gritty stuff but I see it for what it is and i'm okay with that. Yeah yeah, I know I guess I um I mean just look going back to that that you know The passion is always, you know viewed in the traditional sense. Yes, and um um, you know suffering Maybe it's I don't know the tough thing means You know long long suffering and you know endurance. Yes, which is which probably makes sense. But yes um, when you live it to the passion of christ, which is Just going making me. I mean that is I mean I would say that was he never really suffering Uh, yeah, so I mean in the in the cool sense for what is me and I would say that is the intense suffering Yes, and he did that because of his love for us, isn't it because of the joy that was said before him He endured the cross. That's what the bible says, isn't it? Okay, everyone. Well, yeah, thank you. I hope you all have learned something about youth ministry It's course as I said, uh, it's kind of a short course Uh slightly intense, but uh, and I hope that they can genuinely carry something and apply it in your area of ministry and uh And as you all know, I'm anytime you want to reach out to me. My email is available. It's the same thing at ocean.johns If you see question at all Feel free to write to me anytime. Okay Uh, god bless you do your assignment. Well, I'm looking forward to reading your Reviews book reviews Take it guys. God bless you. Bye Thank you. Thank you so much, sir. Thank you so much. Take a mangy It's been a pleasure to meet you. Thank you. Thank you pastor