 Throughout your career, what social activities were you involved in? What was the go-to thing to do? Well, running a department and we had social and social secretary that to build teamwork So we did a lot of different things, dances, parties Often involved with kids, Christmas party for the kids And then we bring in Kids from the don't have parents Foster Yeah, they're More and more people I talked to in either the mining metallurgy in those domains, they seem to have worked really hard at Building the community within Within that company or within that that trade Seems very very close. I guess because a lot of them can quite often be isolated as well But I also did something rather unusual, I don't know if any other director has done it I'd give every six weeks Called the department together for an hour on Friday afternoon the last certain hour of the day because I knew they're doing buzz-a-long anyway and Chill them in on the company. I Had access to an awful lot more information most superintendents did because of my level in my location Well, I had access to everything So I don't believe in trend. I believe in transparency And even though a lot of it there's no value to them whatsoever It didn't make them feel there were no longer a number And make them feel that we're working for a large corporation and that the corporation is moving in this direction of that direction so I'd give them what's on the order books and Cash flow and gave them all kinds of stuff that Just flow over they had but still Yeah, at least they were there in the room, you know, I've made sure that there was free coffee and donuts And there was no obligation to attend Okay, you don't have to attend. It's only if you want to attend comfortable Right after you didn't want to yeah