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Bhai Chariputya, Thank you so much for joining us, of course Reinedi Bhai is a regular with us. 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Where my salary would increase, maybe 1500 times more. But after three years obviously with injury a lot of other factors that didn't happen. So what I decided- I decided to come back and play for Moon Bagan. Once I came back I played for Moon Bagan. What I learnt from Moon Bagan one year, was three-four times more what I was getting in Delhi ज Namistically, it's important that you bring in those kind of players.heid look at America as well, lot of the players, you know, German players were born there studying play , lot of outsider players, they brought in and played and lot of World Countries are doing that in IG they are giving citizens shit they are playing. So the short term is that Qatar started doing that. Thought a lot of African players, maybe Oman is doing it, Saudi Arabia did that. So short term I think if there is a PIO or an NRI player who is ready to play for India लेडिमक लग वरी, वरेएंगा ड़ेदो। वो मुझे वरी जुन। वो वरी जे तीझे लगा लगा था च्वड्याद जिनडा था वरी वें? अपना वो भी सूरगने वो लगा रही थे है, अज्स आट्वार और बाज़ा क्भी, ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ  यह अम बनिसान उलका आप अL都 जा से लगिया कहाioronकरुडंु aus क्ना से सानग ऑ� examiner सिंगल हो तो behavioral । । । । । । । । । । । । । । ुज्बा, ।वटमान् सीच्वा, ।वा, ।वा, ।जी, बावटमान् सीच्वा,। ।वा, ।जी, ।जी, ।जी, ।धा, ।श्दिःपासा और्ए esimerk्एवःर्हाएग। 一� वोगरा क्या थे, quindi, वीश्वाक और्गर अगे जब आलीग कोग। अंदर भाब भाँकन दे सिस्टम पूँषिशन गेडिंग तो दे एडियाज ये कुप्त्रेपी चेंजद जेद, अगर भी भी जोड़ बाँप्रेपी चेंजद जेद, ये ब्रोटी, ये केप अनीबदी अबस्टानी क्रेदिन आईलिख भर, ये ब्रोटी, ये ब्रोटी ज कि बभर ये की स्ईची का, साइस थे कुड़़, अपस की चाँँज ग्जीद की सरद आईजीड, ऐे में भी बाँप्बाक, ये रही जोड़ चाँँची ग्जीड, बैचुम ये की छो गएजीड भी यी, दे साइस, eyes of illusion, । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । पढ़़ार कुई वरेर कुओई हैजासक में बजो Principle आध करेजेहिective वर्फीच देस वो खमी maraviluses और विशाक पीूब वी वैण मैं बाद मैं वा। आप कडच्नरे आप गरिटके पहाने ल मैं Fehwire difficulties रहां तो ये थीगा अचान्ता उ وہ आप आप असी जाएँ यूँ करडीवषाशा बापना. आतई, आता फ़दा बद है और भी डाहा हैं। एक से दो ये रहार अचान्ता टोनँवाशे लिए खनाता और दो समण वरके थाया अचान्ता हैठाश। जिस्वार और चान्चा कि यह जाँजा डाई के बाजा और वोगारिखाने के आप आप यह जाँजा देवादा है. भी आप यह लिए ग़ाई न चाँजा ताई के वोगारिखाई तेदेवागारिखाई. but we can do a place like Scandinavia, I think it's the right place. You spent time already in Norway as well as in Bulgaria with CSK, Sofia. Tell us just a little bit about, of course, we've talked about it in the past, but just for those of us who don't know your story, how did that happen? And sort of what was the experience that you got there? See, all my life, you know, I think we started in 90s, there was nothing much in Indian football, you know, all due respect. You know, we have played for a very long time, but to get to go to go even for a trial was was so difficult in our days. You know, except Baichung and Barry, he played three years and got back. And after that, no, no Indian players were getting even for a chance to go for a trial in those days. It will always be a dream for me. It was not about money, but I just want to go check out. And we didn't have that opportunity. But when opportunity came in and when I was almost retiring, a friend of ours, Nuno, who used to take Indian team to Barcelona and sporting Lisbon for training, you know, when I was in my last year, I played at Kerala Blasters and we have five months gap. And then he said, Randy, why don't you go try? Even though I was what 34 and then and then I was like, why not? You know, if I go there even for five months, anyway, I'm not going to play in India. After few years, I'll be retiring. But training day in, day out with all those players who play in Europa League, you know, Stoicskov is from there, you know, Sofia. He was in Sofia before joining Barcelona. So you can imagine how big the club is. And when you get a train training every day, you know, day in, day out and going for the matches, it was it was such a learning lesson for me. Even though it was it's not in my in my, you know, what was the adjustment period like? Randy, why did you get there? How long did it take for you to get adjusted? Speed, bed, touch, people, but it always takes time. But we have been travelling through Bohoughton. We have been travelling, you know, so well also. We almost travelled for nine months around all around the world, you know, and those weather, those weather, there's what Bohoughton have shown us. So, so of course, gelling in, it takes time, but then training. But when the dreams come true for to train with the best players, I think that itself, the motivation is there. But to get into play in in Europe, in a big team, the problem is only three foreigners allowed. So even though even though you are one of the even though you are doing good, you have to compete with the best of South America. You have to compete with the best of of South Africa. And it's very, very difficult. If you see the great player, I forgot who joined Real Madrid. He is trying to change the passport to to play in the Spanish league and to be to play in the Real Madrid. He, you know, there are over three or four quotas that they can play in. Such a great player, one of the best player in Asia is not getting a chance in Real Madrid. Can you just imagine where the in that foreigner quota he has to fight, he has to go through. Same thing as Sunil, you know, if if if any Indian player if they are if they don't have to if they are if they are a European passport holder, I think they are they are few players from Indian team right now. They can easily play in in one of those. I'm not saying a top team in a lot of European teams, I believe. So there is this quota system where it's very difficult. Only three foreigners are allowed. So if if Japanese players, such a good Japanese player, having a problem, just imagine going from India. Yeah, it's a difficult one. Yeah, by Chumbai, just for everyone who's watching this is the reason also. Yeah, of course, someone has written, अदित्या बजेख्वारे सेंगे प्लेरे सेंगे ताके फुसा पुबो that's the player where they loaned him out and they're trying to get him back. Yeah, yeah. भाईचु भाई जो अकसर आम लोग यहांपे बात करते हैं की प्लेर को एक तो जाना जाना जीए। Is the question for both of you and, of course, Bhaii, you've played in Malaysia, you played at Perak and you played at Selangor. Why are not more Indians or Indian footballers looking east in terms of going to let's say the A league, J league other competitive league in Southeast Asia. ै ं回 वे साप जाpeir के जेंचर था रहु हम फूछ state ड़हात देख मैं आप, झर खृसॉ, रही जी tops, धव ऱ़ी लिखे, और जी।ा है.कोजना अगर थौँन प accompanied अगर मैं ुस आपी मेर एक,yez दे मैंने भाशा को जी तो आशनोना अरो۔ जबाशा बगाश नाई जिगा परनोपरते हो गया, मैं लिए मान भी पसग बजी वोगाशा मैंदी्पना वो गछिकमसा और वोगाशा. को औश्प खी थे नहींगे अग्शाठा जूथ मैंए कुछगी वोगाशा जूथ. if your kid knows that his entire conversation is going on live on youtube and the best thing is, you don't have to pay for your transportation you just float from sinburi in reach ok you have been hard on youtube ok so i'll tell you another word some more questions coming in oh so bhaiching bhai i don't know you can ask this a lot of time i'm sorry, i'm not trying to put you on the spot but there's a guy, a regular watcher of our show Pabneet Pani, he's saying bhai chul bhai for AIFF president sir, have you ever come to your mind? it's something which i'm open to it i'm not saying i want to be the AIFF president and i'm dying to be that is something which it would interest me in future i'm not saying now obviously in future it would interest me and that's something as a footballer i played through right now i'm not too sure i want to be the president and focus on football because i'm focusing on other things because i've done 35 years of football in my life now i want to do little bit different obviously i'm still involved with football bhai chul bhaiya football schools which is the biggest grassroot football program in India today i have united second football club which is the second club from north east to play AIFF which i'm still there now in sinburi we're trying to create a nice football academy in the land which i'm looking at it so football is there but lot of other things which i'm also doing which i feel that in life you live only once and try experiment or experience something which you are passionate about and football is bound to be that and i will come back i would love to do coaching coaching is something which is very very difficult job it's a 24-7 job and it's more difficult than playing you've got to focus on the players tactical training programs formation you're focusing on other team you're also trying to see players who are good players to sign in it's a very difficult constantly dedicated job so which i don't think i would be able to do justice because i can't dedicate that kind of time to this football 24-7 focusing on players training so that's something and you have a president something which i would love to see if it happens in the future and then swajap i would really keep it open and i would really love to do it in the future if nothing will happen then it will be stylish so if a president will be stylish if you will be it will be crisp absolutely in future it will be great i think the one who understand football yes we would love to see that someday by the way there's another comment coming in this guy is a fan of yours he's saying i'm a big fan of bhai chun bhai but i'm not going to lie for me renadi bhai is the star of the show there's of course now of course pabneeth has put in another question bhai chun bhai he's saying afs should start sending younger players to foreign leagues like you said for 2-3 years i don't know if it's the afs job but he's quoting someone like a sanjeev stallion who's gone to Portugal and he's gone in that age limit job kerethana 18-24 i think the kid is in that bracket and he's into the gambling world i think it's not a job of afs obviously afs should be encouraged in which they have been doing that i think it's job of the players and the agent and the isl and isle clubs which are there isle clubs can sign a young 18 year old boy for 4 years 5 years and if they see a potential they can always send them to europe to try out clubs there or train even or maybe go on to play because you still have the rights that way you also benefit financially if you send a boy on a second division club in Portugal or England and he does well the clubs might be interested in buying the club who signed the isle club or any deli sign that's why you can sell it so i think it's also the duty of the clubs if they see a young talent which is there and they can market it and sell it and make an asset of the players so at BVFS sorry no Sanjeev is a guy who was with Indian arrows and he is in Portuguese first division or second division they are great if you could make it i think he has been trying to go out with the help of an agent who is from France i think that is a good thing that he is trying, i hope he makes it he do well the age is correct Sanjeev is 21 or 19 or 2021 something like that even if he comes back to 23 he will become a player he should be thankful he should be thankful to the guy who has taken who is an agent of Pawar also who is playing in Bayern Munich so that guy has been working very closely watching very closely in Indian football and he is trying to get few players outside but in those age if you can make it it's good and even if you don't he will always come with that experience and can do well back here i was just saying that since by since you mentioned BVFS and the kind of grassroots program that you are running through that system network that you have now pretty much across the country are there any young players from BVFS that have made moves towards it or are maybe potentially going abroad i think we yes we have in fact 8 to 9 players went on to play for India in different age group recently 2 years ago i think 2 of my boys that too are full scholarship now full scholarship was given to this players we also have a scholarship scheme out of 100% we have 30% of the boys in our academy who are completely given 100% scholarship through the talent so through that we got players who completely are trained finance educated by BVFS these boys are going on to play for India and 2 of my boys in fact under 16 they are still playing one goal keeper from Shinnong Mirana and one website back from Odisha and a lot of players who have been in BVFS in a BVFS under 13 squad played the iLeague with BVFS as now signed by Reliance Reliance Academy and i think all the two cities or somebody i think Reliance is sending them to Holland as well i think he is right now in Holland so a lot of our academy boys are being picked up from the tournaments are taken by a lot of bigger like an ISL academy as well so yes i think we have that we are not directly sending it right now to Europe because we have not built that contact and the system but also what we do is we are encouraging a lot of our boys to play in iLeague because that is where you can achieve that like today why are we different from Man-United Academy Gokha Junior's Academy or Barcelona Barça academy we make sure that our academy has got every level every step to guide them and we have a network with clubs in India coaches with India and different levels whereas Barça Maliga Junior their coaching is great but they don't guide you to next step they train you pay the money to them you train how talented you are how good your job is finished you just get good training whereas we don't do that we give them good training but if you are talented we take them further we take them to a club we send them to trials a lot of bigger academies have taken but we make sure that they are well talented they get into clubs and a lot of players are playing in ISL and iLeague today from VVFS Barça if you see going abroad and these kids the good ones the best ones will go but what about the players like Bai-Chung said we have come out from his academy trying to get in so for that not everyone is going to get a chance in iLeague or ISL so where do these players in various academies in different parts of India so one or two players will make it and the others where do they go they don't have a platform so they can't just sit down and join for the office sales or state office sales also to create a platform so that they can play they don't have a place to play if you join a iLeague as 18 year old how many players are going to Bai-Chung is lucky i'm lucky for straight in 1996 coming straight from the academy and going i think i was lucky because Habib sir was there otherwise i would have been difficult so how many players is that lucky enough coming out from the academy is a great player and then going into the club how many are going to get a chance so of course going foreign going abroad is good so first 18-19 year old they need to play at least 40-50 matches or 30 matches at least so tell me one 18 or 19 or 17 year old play 15 matches in a year no hardly hardly yes Bai-Chung your voice muted so adding to that because today we have dvfs which is a grassroot football program but let's not forget i also have a club united city football club that plays in the state league and we obviously are trying to play into second division which we have been playing today the biggest example is sunday jingram he was a 17 year old boy that came the first contract he got so for us if tomorrow if any dvfs boy who is as talented as sunday's can easily get into united city or even other clubs which are associated with so we haven't leveled to it because united city was there we have played in second division we don't qualify for i-league so sunday's got that opportunity united city played 4 years went straight to kerala blasters and started playing for india because we as united city qualified to i-league club as well and then he gets that option and the platform to showcase this is where dvfs is different because as baiting gujta we have that level and the clubs to also manage players to get encouraged to become professional players since now from a kid coming in to an academy to a ladder to play professional football becoming a viable option now not just to clubs you know but the players who play there are a lot of people in the market to take them so it's important for federation to protect a lot of these academies who produce players because we as an academy we spend a lot of resources money, finances to bring out the players from a remote village and then give them full scholarship and they want to play for gujta and then some bigger clubs or bigger thing can just take it away so i think the federation should make sure that they protect the academy which has atleast kept the player for 2-3 years and let's say 2 months and 3 months but atleast a year if he's been training with them and kept there and the academy or the football schools have spent quite a lot of resources for the player and he's been taken by somebody that protection has to be given and that is where well Europe is so good at it because they protect the players because those players have assets so not any club can just sign your 15 year old, 14 year old player from annual to jensy or something just like that you know so this is where your protection system from the federation will have to come so that ISL and aile clubs then would start investing their own money and their resources to spot the talent in the remote villages bring them up and take them that asset and sell them you spend 1 lakh on the training but after 3 years of this it's becoming 18-19 and performing so well sell them out for millions that is what exactly many united has been doing a lot of bigger clubs they see examples that baslunov brought in and he's 11 trained him, made him a good player now if they're sending he's going to go in millions David Beckham is an example of that so that protection has to be given that system has to be brought in and that is where we want ISL and aile clubs to invest to make players an asset you can always take players ready made from tata football academy or some other academy and that is what I hate about IPN cricket it's only the creamy layers are making one the IPN teams night riders or chinnai super teams what have they spent on investing on the grassroot cricket program for their state they are using kulkata in chinnai name but what have they done to invest in the grassroot in that area and develop cricket is there so it's only about money is also not right money is very very important but giving it back developing players a very crucial part of it 25 is that something you guys also look into in your academy and hopefully you have a classic team right which will of course play at the highest level so the cream of classic academy will go into your team a level below the cream which is still a pretty good level you would try selling them that you get some money back into your academy after that yeah it's very important when you are spending so much of money by which you will understand more we have just started it's been two years so of course you want when you are spending in a residential specially you know you have spent quite a lot of money we are still non residential so we don't have to spend much but in future once you have a residential when you are giving everything for free I think you need something back in return you will just sell out money so then yes I think it's important the cream players the main players are going to be playing we are in the second division right now so in another few years we will be playing Eilik's second division and those from this 450 kids we have 90 elite kids and who cannot make it for sure there has to be a place so we have to think about that yes and I think the academies I think they also need to make money otherwise how long they will prolong I don't know I don't know if that does that take care of most of the conversation that we wanted to have around players going abroad and stuff because now we are getting closer to football resuming in some way or form in India and I wanted to get your opinion both of you I wanted to ask one more thing on the players going abroad sir bhai chum bhai this is the last question on players going abroad one is that we should go then there are two people like you who have been there done that my point is is there enough talent in the pool in India to actually go abroad and try their luck that is my point and if there is then who for you are those boys that really need to move out and I am talking about senior players new team I don't think as a player you need to try and think only I want to go abroad play abroad play in a club there you need to focus is play for the country when get results once India team starts doing well once India team say for example starts getting to finals of Asian cup playing again jackal in the final or Australia in the finals you automatically will have clubs from around the world following your players and offering you contracts so it is important for the players to succeed in the national team even with the clubs if the clubs are playing champions league suppose they do outstandingly well they want to play the finals the national team has to perform regularly for clubs and other countries to show interest unless you don't do that it's going to be difficult nobody is going to take you seriously today if you want to sign a cricketer if you want to sign a cricketer where are you going to look at you are going to look at west indies Australia you are not going to Brazil to get a cricketer same thing with football today what rainy day says is exactly right if today Japan or a UAE or a club in Europe want to sign a footballer where would they go to South America Brazil, Chile, Uruguay, Argentina or Africa, Nigeria, Cameroon they are not going to come to India so for us the important thing is the Indian football the national team will have to start performing and getting results that's where you don't really have to go inside and drop you can start practicing and good thing is we started qualifying in Asia cup once we qualified under Bob Outen after 28 years now I think the national team qualified later on so that qualifying into Asia cup is a very very crucial part you can't qualify for the Asia cup there is no chance any country would want to sign our Indian players forget the World Cup even Asia cup where you have 20 18 teams, 14 some 20 teams that goes on to play Asia cup now I think 32 teams 24 teams even in 24 top Asian teams you don't come and qualify for the Asia cup to play forget how good you are what records you make what 10 players you dribble you have very less chance of other clubs and other countries showing interest so that's why the national team has to regularly qualify for the Asia cup does not qualify you can get into semi-finals you see once there is semi-finals you will have 6 to 7 8 or 10 players offers from different clubs across the world telling you to come into the world so now Arjun I think I totally agree with Baichung don't look out to go first you have to perform well now we have organized league now things are getting better in Indian football we have ISL, we have iLeague we have so many good coaches coming in so if you are playing in any of the ISL team you are playing really really well I am sure the offer is going to come at least for a trial at least to look out for so as a young player you shouldn't of course you need to have a dream that one day I will be playing abroad but while waiting for that in that mean time what in 3-4 years what they have to perform the best in India and automatically like Baichung said when we play in the Asian Champions League or club champions or the Asian Cup the scouts are already there so when you can perform there you will be automatically picked and to play now in ISL and iLeague is so important because you have to play the best first before you start aiming for Europe I think the best advice is play as best as you can in Indian League and automatically things will start opening up my point actually Baichung Bhai was this that like say like Renedi Bhai said you are a trailblazer for the national team so when you went to England and that door you said you know our Baichung Bhai is playing there so it impacted the other 10 players in the team saying if Baichung can do it we can also do it my point is who for you you suppose this team needs a few trailblazers I am not saying the entire team needs to go but one or two players need to go abroad so that your collective they really get inspired by those 2-3 players who have gone there and done that it's very very important for one or two players to go abroad and be well that will really impact the team and also football in India but how do you go you need to start getting noticed and how do you get noticed is either through the national team or maybe through ISN but the national team is very very important for the national team to do well because that's where I think people are going to judge the nation standard and the football it's very simple today if I have to I have played a player I own a united Sikkim I want to sign a player for my club there might be I am not saying the other states don't have players I would not look into a player from Gujarat immediately because the Gujarat as a state has not been doing well or is not even performing well in Santosh Trophy so there might be very good players in Gujarat I am not saying that even one player from Gujarat for a club for ISN United Sikkim would still think they still want him to convince more like a player from Manipur would score one great free kick you know he is from Manipur he can do it but the same call if Gujarati guys scores they will say no this will happen in the flute show it 3 times so for guys from Gujarat to really get acceptance he has to do it 3-4 times if Gujarati guys scores one free kick from Manipur would be accepted so that is the reality it is the reality you can help it if a Brazilian cricketer comes it is 1-6er we will say he has scored the flute we will have to really see that he can do it he has to do 10 times to really convince a good cricketer it is the same way so I think it is important for players to be there but the national team has to do well in that arena Sunil is the biggest example he has been doing wonders he has been scoring more goals than Messi but since the national team doesn't do well 6-7 years after he left after he left sporting Lisbon why is he not gone why is the other club not coming he is a fantastic national team so it is important that qualified and go on to play semi-final in Asia club Sunil would have been signed by such bigger clubs so it is the same way there are a lot of other talented players in essence in today as well but their individual performance is not also going to make a big impact it is important to have an individual impact and do so well but as a team you have to do well for clubs to really look into Indian football and Indian players I think if you guys I am sure you want to play in Sikkim United club but then for in order to play there as a Delhi team you have to perform well as a Delhi because they have not been performing well so it is very difficult we don't trust even at our home what are you talking about we used to play listen I am almost 45-50 reaching the half century the last league match in Sikkim league I played for United Sikkim and I scored a winning goal for United Sikkim my team so there is a 40 plus 44-45 I am still scoring goals I am sure in India Arjun and Siddharth so that you guys can easily fit in but obviously instead of me paying you salaries you guys might have to pay salary how is the calf how is the calf how is the calf once in 10 days one match in 10 days I can play sadly Sikkim league gets over in 10 days so I can't play all the matches by the time after one match I recover the league is over so that is the sad part of it brother his calf is so big it is difficult to maintain my face is so big I used to look at it guys we will have to wrap it up I will have to watch it now it is more than now ok sorry bhaichunga just last minute Siddharth want to ask you something about football restarting and then we will end this yeah just wanted to get your opinion and whoever wants to go first can I have just one that how things in your parts of the world bhaichunga you were saying you were between Calcutta Siddhi Guri and Sikkim you and Imphal travelling around atleast the neighbourhood how are things developing in your parts and how are some of these teams preparing to play in the bubble whether it happens in Calcutta or Goa ID 2nd division will happen as well so what are your thoughts on that I think they should start there is nothing I think covid-19 in India is increasing that is the sad part but it is a thing if you look at the data of covid-19 as well the person is wise it is much lesser than the flu or a dengue or a heart attack or a cancer so it is not a disease that kills you if you get it as well and a lot of young people people especially sports person in India and abroad has got it recovered in 2-3 days so you know the panic thing about the only thing is that those people who are carrying it because if they have positive they need to be self-isolated don't go back home where you have elderly parents or somebody who is poor or weak that if you keep in mind individually as a sports person if you get affected as well there is no issue I might I have not done my test but I might have already got it recovered and also developed anti-gottic because I have a petrol pump and I checked all the guys working there because they are too open guys have already without going tested and got COVID recovered and have anti-gottic without even going so I am sure you know I have gone to other world I have done a lot of social work with a lot of people around giving charity work ration and all that maybe if I test with them maybe I am not saying I hope but maybe I would have developed anti-gottic as well so I think we shouldn't worry so much because sports person are going to keep fit it's only that when they go out in a crowded place of meeting somebody or not the mask is important social distancing is important but I think if you stay fit your immune system is strong I don't think it will affect I have not seen anywhere in sports person who is a professional athlete having a major issue after having COVID after testing COVID positive football should resume in India like anywhere else it's just that they need to take proper precaution in terms of if they are going back to their houses if they have many people those people are going to be very vulnerable yeah just to talk about from the footballing perspective yeah just in last last five months has been very difficult and we have realized that first two months we are really really scared of the things but then we have realized that now we have to live with it and then football must go on taking all the necessary am I audible yeah football football must go on taking all the necessary advice from the doctors and then we cannot stop so Manipur for last one month is a complete lockdown from last two days things have been little relaxed and for sure it's going to be from the government that things will be much better than last one or five months so things are getting better even though the cases are really going high like Bhaijum said but football must go on like it's been going in different other countries and I think wherever in Calcutta or Goa I think it must go on and players should start training at least this is what I feel taking all the necessary precautions perfect I just wanted to quickly how will it impact what's the difference between playing in that in that one place one location especially you know now in the iLeague for example there are new teams or the second division is going to have a five team round robin format and one team out of that will qualify them for the iLeague next season so how will these guys sort of deal with playing these games the frequency of games will be the format of the tournament will be different and they'll all be in one essentially location most will be away from home their home ground so what sort of yeah I think now players are good with dealing with the situations if the players in abroad if the players in Europe are dealing with the situation in Champions League we have seen and because that's the only way that's what the doctors advise that's what from the specialists so now going with the according to whatever they have said I think players would be able to deal of course it will not be the best playing without the fans but at least like we said if the football has to go on perfect bhai chun bhai reinedy bhai thank you so much for joining us and bhai chun bhai I am inviting you to the camera because you will be on the lake wake so if the message doesn't reach please come again on our show whenever you wish to come we'll get reinedy bhai again and once again we'd like to thank you so much a lot of the people who were sending their questions for bhai chun bhai and reinedy bhai I didn't take a lot of them they were outside of the topic we were talking today which was about the foreign players the foreign players question bhai chun bhai any story about reinedy bhai because we know there's a great friendship between the two of you and it's a long friendship in the next episode for sure that's a good cut off for reinedy bhai lot of stories of reinedy bhai one episode dedicated to reinedy bhai don't look bhai's good looking face they will even be see you guys thanks a lot bhai bhai thank you so much I think you guys can leave but maybe we can carry on for a couple of minutes just to recap this conversation thank you guys thanks good to see you just to ease out of it also to see now that bhai chun said that if he can play so can we it's a good it's a good high praise if there are clubs on youtube then suggest it we will come see how the guys know the fitness and we have slim and prim I had thought to see how many of these people who have been watching us live through this conversation stay with the conversation once our stars leave the stars leave that's a good one we still have 89 bhai they are watching I hope you guys bhai it was a nice conversation it was good to get bhai chun and reinedy I think you should do one more put it in the comments as well guys if you want bhai chun and reinedy to come back again and what you would like to talk to them about why don't you put it there and we will put it to them we will take it to them and of course when time permits we will try bringing them on yeah absolutely and also bombard them actually not just them all of your footballing idols or the people you follow on social media please keep pushing the idea of landing up at the 420 gram studio you are saying all this but every time without fail there have been say 100 comments at least 50 comments are saying we want separate channel those who are commenting on separate channel should first tell them to support this channel to follow and like it's not that easy to run a new channel we will talk about it on sunday it's very easy pande ji has said actually 2 big revelations on the show this sunday afternoon one is that bhai chun kutya is keen on the AFF presidency so all you politicians keen in the sense he is saying it's there in his head you heard it first on 420 grams guys if any journalist like us would be bettering if you are listening to this chat you will get to see it in the headlines i don't think our show is a journalist show our brothers our brothers are journalists our people are only field our people are not pen copy our people are not pen copy our people are not pen copy we are players who are not if there are any journalists please attribute so that you get to read our channel through your medium second thing is sunday ji is saying channel is not a big thing so you know bhai chun kutya is from social media instagram, facebook, twitter he has left everything so we will have to curse i think i see it bhai our friends are watching and because they haven't left they are still 80-90 people watching let's have an honest conversation what is the problem why are we not getting a channel bhai our friends are almost finished his 15 year anniversary again so he is now nearing his 30 years as a professional footballer so why are we not running a channel we should run a channel i completely agree with these guys i also completely agree i completely agree and i am sorry guys that this has not happened yet and it doesn't look like it doesn't look like to be happening either because unfortunately unfortunately the passion and commitment of Arjun Pandit is not with our whole team sadly so what happens is we have a lot of ideas but only one thing and we get confused because of that i will tell you what even if we do 2 videos in a week of 4-20 grams it's enough who are you trying to compete with we already got a dedicated bunch of people watching and if only you are bigger so i mean was there to lose so the minute we get a sponsor we will have a new channel so you are the sponsor bhai we are there bhai 100% bhai 100% all of us have all media has to find a way to support itself and continue to exist independently because advertiser driven stuff is not going to work how that happens most of it should happen through the community that we are building that's why our focus is on developing that community that's part one and second the thing is if we are only doing in these days because travel is restricted our teams can't go all over the place football itself is restricted of course by the time things open up whether it's in the bubble or out of the bubble but for two videos per week it's a bit i don't know you guys can tell us if it makes sense to have a separate channel all together where we are putting out two videos a week i don't really see how that helps especially now you know one of those two videos is going to come on sunday or 2pm you definitely know so be on this channel we will be on this channel if we start a separate channel then we will also still be on news click and available to the subscribers of news click for sure but anyway with that i will also announce that i have made social media tata bye bye and believe you me i know you guys are all young kids it is the best thing i have done to bring social media and throw it out of the house but having said that i am coming back i am coming back that i am done with putting the stupid house photo beach photo and all that i am going to be starting my own channel or instagram channel which i am going to start with i have already made if you watch coaches voice i have already made a table about the tactics of what indian teams are doing and how they need to move so i am going to be putting that regularly on that plus i am going to be thinking of starting a new podcast our brother here we will talk about football but we will also talk about sports because i feel that space there is still a wide there is so much to talk about it is a vast space for so many people to come in so my point is that when i will bring that channel back on instagram follow it after leaving instagram i had 4500 followers out of which 25 of my family out of which 4 girls and the rest were like you out of them i think 3955 were the cricketers now when i will come back i will do football so when i will come back i will follow it and start spreading it as much as you can because at the end of the day whatever we talk about talk about good or bad talk about touching the heart if we just have to see 200 people then it is our mistake because if we cannot reach 1000 we cannot reach 1500 we cannot reach 2000 then the onus is on us for being lazy and not doing anything about it so instagram id is coming soon so hopefully from there on we can move to new heights have you done it it is a good promo it is a good plan i told the producer that he has to cut it yes thanks for watching every sunday 2pm that is not changing channel or no channel every sunday 2pm now we have a dedicated space and dedicated time in the week where we are regular every sunday at 2pm we will talk about something in indian football and truth be told our 4th show of sunday 2pm and all 4 have been really good and much love to bhaichung bhai and rindi bhai for coming on the show and we will of course try getting them again and we will try sunil shetri sunil shetri will come or not we will try his instagram and twitter handles so bhai you come for 20 grams you talk with siddhan and aarjun and we will take it what will you get after talking with mirad koli what will you get what will you get ok bhai you have to talk about football and he will talk about the inside football and he will talk about the inside football so he will be with us so you bombard them and you say sunil bhai captain leader your 2 villas are sitting here in tilli your 2 villas are waiting for you in 4 to 20 grams ok one guy saying i want you to roast egos team you have to do it you can do it what is bhai doing we will talk about it ok ok ok guys thank you so much for watching thank you so much we will of course come next sunday thanks for watching goodbye