 What is actually worse for Asians in America to be a boba liberal or a boba conservative? What do these two terms mean and why is it such a hot argument right now? Yeah, we got to talk about it because politics are all the rage right now. However Andrew I believe 70% of Asian Americans are pretty much apolitical So this video today is gonna be for the 30% that are fired up one way or another We're talking about boba liberal boba conservative realistically I think only 10% of the AAPI population even knows these terms However, it is a debate right now on reddit and Twitter Yeah, basically to put it in short a lot of people do not like either of these groups if you fall into them However, people are kind of debating on which which one is the lesser of two evils. So I guess this is the debate We're gonna cover we're gonna go in-depth guys. We are not getting super political, but we're definitely talking about politics here So please hit that like button right now and check out other episodes of the hot pot boys real quick Andrew we made a whole video about what a boba liberal is but long story short It's an internet political identity invented for middle, but primarily upper middle class Asians that are Parrot a lot of the opinions on the left would sort of throw an Asian spin on it, right? Maybe a limousine liberal latte liberal, but it's like a matcha latte liberal Who knows guys you guys got to look more into it because otherwise I could explain it for too long a boba Conservative Andrew, this is one of the first times we've ever talked about it on this channel Andrew it is somebody who is Asian that parrot sort of conservative talking points But may potentially even say them more harsh because they have the shield of being a minority All right So David if most Asians are not even political to be honest like most Asians in America Asian Americans have the lowest voting rate of Any ethnicity in America of your major groups. We're talking about white black Latino Asian Asian is at the very bottom in terms of engagement and political discourse and political voting Right. So for an Asian to pick one side or the other, what are the reasons? There's four main reasons and we're gonna talk about this before we get into the comments section Reason number one is you're just desired to be part of a tribe Because you want to cheer for something you want to feel part of something your friends are of this tribe And so you're gonna lean into it. Yeah, I mean it reminds me when in LA There's a lot of families Andrew that have a lot of USC and UCLA flags. It's possible They don't even know a single person who goes to UCLA or USC, but they've bought into that tribalistic college football homerism More moving on to number two. This goes true for both voters and politicians Andrew It's about whatever side will give them the most personal benefit or self-gain. Yeah, for example If you care about taxes generally people say, oh, I'm gonna lean more towards Republican They give me more tax breaks And then if you need a little bit more like social welfare and then you're gonna lean more to the Democrat side Generally speaking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna just go with whichever side, you know embraces me more treats me better Maybe I was like a better environment for me to swim in as a fish. Yeah, you know, like how people say Most people vote with their pocketbook Um a lot of people Andrew point number three reluctantly buy into one side Even though they're not completely happy with it because they feel like it's for the greater good Or it's what you're supposed to do when you come to America. You're just like Well, you know, I just got here. So, you know, I just have to pick a side. So I guess I Reluctantly pick this side even though I don't really know and I don't really feel strongly about them I'm gonna do it and that's probably why Asians are not a highly leveraged voting block to be honest Because even when they do pick a side, they're not like the 10 out of 10 Even though obviously the Boba Libyan Boba Connors more getting into the more extreme side And last but not least Andrew motherland politics the motherland Yeah, this is obviously America has its hand in a lot of different countries and Politics around the world. So of course like the The relevant example is like a lot of Vietnamese in Orange County They are very pro-Trump and pro-Republican. I love Trump man because generally the Republicans and especially Trump are Anti-China or hard on China anti-communist, right? Because a lot the southern Vietnamese who came over here their anti-communist So I guess that's a good example of motherland politics, right? And I guess they're rightfully so I mean everybody in America can care about the issues that affect their clan or their tribe in particular, right? Even if nobody else knows about it, um, let's get into the comments section guys Like we said, we don't bat a thousand but we do our best to break down these complicated issues They are multi-layered. They're very messy. It's very gray. We're in the weeds Andrew The first comment was both are so wack man. Boba lives They just do the bidding of like Nancy Pelosi, you know what I mean? And these like limousine liberals that are just like trying to box everybody in and what they could talk about and Boba cons, Boba conservatives, they're just doing the bidding of what an old racist rich white person would want to say But then they're like their henchmen with a minority face You know, it's a funny question to me is like the average Democrat and the average Republican like which one of the Average version do you like because I think neither people like most people don't like the extreme ends of either side But like what about the average, you know the mean? Yeah, I mean, let's be honest I think the left is gonna point at the right and say that it's fascist white supremacist Hyper-capitalistic like wants it to be all top down and then on the right They're gonna point at the extreme like 20 out of 10 Democrat and what to say they're anarchist communist Marxist Don't care about structures in society. Right. Those are like your Hyperbook ends extrapolation, right? They're both gonna be pointing fingers at each other I mean, uh, you guys let us know in the comment section below. Keep it civil. Um, this is a anti-democrat threat Android somebody said Democrats see Asians as white adjacent So they don't treat us like minorities to be handled with care like the other minorities They hold this to a higher academic standard than even the white majority Which is insane because a lot of us come from poor families or at the very least parents who do not speak English and don't understand The system when they immigrate here I mean, uh, but I wouldn't say that the far right side cares about Asians either I think they are just like they're okay with Asians if Asians buy into their system Which a lot of Asians sometimes do but I guess this is the argument that Andrew I guess Democrats because Asians hug the Democrats Statistically more they're getting more mistreated by the Democrats because the Democrats are saying hey I love everybody. I love all the minorities, but Asians is that's my least favorite So they're getting a little bit more tricked by the Democrats is what people are saying Yeah, that is the argument because you feel like they love you more, but they only love you a little bit Yeah, and somebody said this even to explain Extends outside of the voter environment and into the workplace Asians are viewed as great worker drones even in tech But our entire value is our ROI. We're not there for the fun vibes like a hot white girl or a funny white guy in the offices That's actually really funny Somebody said we are not similar enough to get truly accepted and we are not different enough to be loathed or loved just invisible dismissible and Some people would actually find some comfort in being this in-between spot where you don't get too much attention But you get a little bit and you're just kind of floating around in the middle somebody said But the most liberal schools right now are not even grouping Asians as minorities anymore because they group us as white kids for Statistical contrast. Yeah, that's definitely not helping us Okay, Andrew. We are gonna get into the comments that are anti-conservative now Anti Boba Khan someone said yeah both sides leave us out But you're even more ostracized socially when you pick conservative and hang out with all the rich whites or want to be rich whites Plus it gets more serious than that and the Boba Libs at least eat Asian food and drink Boba It seems like Boba cons completely reject even casual Asian cultural consumption. Yeah, do you agree with that last point? I actually think I do well I think that Boba Libs are more likely to go eat at mom-and-pop Asian American restaurants than a Boba Khan in my mind Yeah, I mean, I think Boba liberals generally people on the liberal side are more open-minded to different cultures And they're gonna value maybe Asian culture at a baseline more but not all Asians care If their white friend eats a lot of Asian food, you know what I'm saying or their black friend eats a lot of Asian food Not all Asians are gonna care about that. So it kind of depends on your priorities Yeah, and I think that leads to a lot of confusion because when Asian Americans move to America It's unclear if our job is to promote Asian cultural consumption or is are we just representing Asian cultures of people treat us nice But we become completely Americanized and we're getting treated nice Is that still good because an Asian is living a good life even if nobody around them or themselves is not doing anything Asian Yeah, that's true. Um Andrew somebody said yeah Republicans might care about violent crime more against Asians as long as it's caught on camera But I noticed that Republicans do not care about micro-aggressions against Asians at all because they got Trump calling it kung-fu And all these other things it seems like Boba cons don't care about micro-aggressions This is this a good point. Yeah, man. I dude I think a larger question is just like who is more dangerous to the Asian community a Very conservative person or a very liberal person. I Mean most people would say dangerous wise. I guess the conservative is more dangerous, but then The liberal doesn't fully have the Asian backs either. I don't know man. It's a very hard question I said this is very complicated However, Andrew This is some valid points against the Boba cons because this said that everybody who voted against the Asian hapes crimes bill Literally, everybody was Republican Yeah, no, that's true. And then on the other hand you could say that anti Asian hate bill Like didn't do anything. I don't know right, but it was a nice thought But then this other argument said that Asian Republicans more stand for structures and anti crime in society So even if they don't vote for the anti hate crimes bill, they're just more anti crime in general So there's those are like two competing factors, right? This guy said at its core the Republicans run a platform of tradition heritage nationalism and exclusion None of which are going to benefit Asians Unless we overcompensate and try to appeal to Anglo-Saxon exceptionalism at a 10 out of 10 level That's pretty interesting guys. Like I said interesting internet comments Somebody said oh by the way guys everybody complaining about crime from people who are impoverished Conservatives actually probably originally created the conditions for poverty leading to attacks on Asians if we want to peel back the layers of the onion ah I don't know all the history because I think that's a hard one to say But I think it sounds right right it sounds right um somebody said listen guys This is back to dissing the left the major issue with the left and and by the way I'm saying that both sides do not care about Asians is but the left gets away with treating Asians badly at least on the right We know that the conservative Asians are literally just doing for pocketbook reasons or personal gain But it's the left that actually sold out Asians on its ideologies Because they told the Asians that they were gonna get benefited, but they only hurt Asians I think that do you think that that's the biggest thing right now Andrew is that Asians are like yeah Yeah, I'm not saying I like the Boba cons, but the Lib side did us even worse because we embraced it Oh, yeah Like in more violated the love or the trust of the Asian community. I don't know man Yeah, it's tough because the right side on the far far right You do have like politicians really old politicians that are like in Congress that are like still like Registered white supremacists right there more like Conventional like redneck Billy Bob, right pretty bad Yeah, for sure that that's bad and then on the left But what do you think about people saying that like you know? Hollywood did Asian-American guys really bad and it really like you know I mean even Asian women kind of got done wrong, but not as bad as the guys did and that was run by the liberal side Yeah, I don't know it kind of depends on your self agency and which problems you think you can overcome easier yourself Because if you're an Asian guy that feels like you're like well I'm confident either way whether no matter what Hollywood or these liberals say about me then you're not gonna care about that Yeah, somebody said that liberals have a general attitude towards Asians of hey Yeah, you guys are different and get treated a little different But you guys will be fine just support our side and we'll say nice things and buy the traitor Joe's version of pad thai fuzz sushi and butter chicken and kimchi. I do think Asians if you are an Asian you need to have your priorities straight and this is gonna help guide you to either party I'm not saying you should choose either party. Maybe there's space for a third party somewhere But I'm just saying you got to have your priorities right or you're always gonna be getting tricked left and right Yeah, and of course Andrew there was a ton of comments. This probably made up the majority of comments people are saying dang it It's just so confusing man Sometimes I'll step into a place and then this group to me minorities are trash talking white people then I talked to a white guy in private He's trash talking minorities and nobody's caring about me. I'm still just invisible Dismissable and I'm almost just like a sounding board for either side and everybody's just like sort of takes my allegiance for granted Yeah, and somebody said, you know the only reason I think Boba libs are worse than Boba cons It's not on a one-to-one level, but literally there's probably like a ten-to-one or five-to-one ratio of Boba libs That's why they're more annoying to me because I run into them more often. Yeah, I do think that there are more Boba liberals, especially voicing themselves on the internet. So that's why that's gonna be an overrepresented group Somebody said at the end of the day, they're both the different sides of the same coin Asians who become Boba libs are just buying into the good whites being the white knight benevolent ruler stereotype Which is actually was actually pushed by this famous philosopher poet called Ruyard Kipling Basically saying that whites are superior, but they're benevolent like nice Okay, that's they're saying that that's the liberal perspective the Nancy Pelosi perspective And they're saying versus a dominant superior Spartan 300 white ruler, which is a Viking Anglo Protestant conqueror of the light Narrative that is on the right side, which I would certainly say that like Tucker Carlson has So basically they're saying that on each side Boba lib is just uplifting the Ruyard Kipling style and that a Boba Khan is just uploading upholding the Tucker Carlson side Crazy um, let's get into the takeaways guys. Like I said, we could go through, you know Examples for like a trillion years you guys know where we stand literally there are pros and cons to both sides I can totally understand Andrew, especially after going through this comment section one 80% or 70% of Asians just stay out of this whole thing, right? Yeah. Uh, what's your analogy David? What's an easier way of understanding all this? All right the easiest way that I just broke it down in analogy It's almost like there's two nightclubs, right? And the nightclubs have multiple rooms in them But basically the line to get into this like Brooklyn backyard boogie party Andrew where Caitranada the DJ is playing right? That's liberals right Asians are in line But they're pushed to the back of the line and maybe like Asian males are pushed to the back back of the line Like but that's like a cool party, right? It's Caitranada. He's playing Mick genre mute world music He's mixing EDM and hip-hop pop and this genre mashing is cool Man, right? And then there's this other party at the country club the old world country club And they're having a social at the country club and there's a line to get into that club to in the Hamptons And Asians are like in the middle of that line We're not in the back, but we're in the middle. So it's also like I Guess which one are you gonna accept like one is like an old-world heritage one that comes with some nice things But some problematic things and the other thing is this curl cool I guess like genre mashing thing, but Asians are viewed as like the lowest in this Caitranada hierarchy Interesting interesting two different nightclub. We always got a nightclub analogy guys. All right I mean listen listen, I'll say this there was a very interesting political cartoon that popped up And this is what's supposed to be the Asian male perspective on both parties here Let me just pop it up right now. Well one sex in yeah Asian men suck and the other one is actually a girl saying yeah Asian men suck and then there's an Asian guy off to the side like man. What are my choices? I Actually have some interesting questions. I would like to ask people What if David people decided and I'll just speak it from an Asian guys perspective, but this could apply to all Asians What if as an Asian guy you have to go to one of each of their rallies and See how you're treated at that rally. Oh, okay So you have to go to a Republican rally and just network Nobody knows you and just see what how you're treated. Are you respected? Are you treated nice? Is it fun? Right? And then you go to a Democrat one and see how you're treated, right? I think most Asian guys probably if you made me say would probably end up I guess having more fun at the Democrat one. I'm I'm just saying I'm not saying that the Republican one wouldn't be fun though Or how about this? It's just who's ever The women from which a political party like Asian guys more Yeah But it's close. I don't know. It's time to say I would say this If you could find the rare white friend within the Republican world who's really connected and from like an old money family Maybe his wife is Asian or something. So he respects you It's true that in certain tiers of business He can do a lot for you if you can find the one rare guy who's not like, you know, who sees you as a Equal or a peer or something. I got it David. I got another proposition. I got another proposal All right, we started it's a third party shout out to Andrew Yang's forward party Which is trying to change how voting works, which I think actually is doing good work This one is my fake party that I'm coming up, right? It's called the good person party. It's just people Who work hard who don't commit any violent crimes and Their vote is worth two times as much as everybody else No, you should How much money you make it's not about how much money you can donate It's about how hard you work and how little crimes you commit and you get two times the votes guys Yeah, that is my proposition Andrew Fung 20 I mean listen guys, I think it's the yin and the yang of it like you need both sides I think right now the modern iterations of both the left and the right right now do not really fully represent their ideologies It's almost like the right is always like yeah We're for small government, but then they love military spending and then the left is like, oh, yeah We want to provide this thing, but there's like they're just Mismanaging their budgets, so they're not getting anything done Basically, what do you do in a situation where it feels like both systems that you have to choose from are kind of inept right now Yeah, I don't know I think it's a it's gonna be for Asians to get their priorities straight, you know I mean also is it gonna be a continuation of what Asians have been doing which is worrying about themselves or less Of about the larger macro like downstream trends or how about this? Asians which Political party do you think you can have more influence in and which one can you change more? I mean, I guess I would say there is probably more Asian politicians on the Democrat side for sure I would say there is visually so when you look at the visuals it looks like one party is mostly Yes, I'm talking about all Asians are probably more heavier Here's the truth neither side is going to challenge monopolies corporatocracy toxic industries Like I think that both sides right now are galvanized and small and medium issues and nobody wants to address the ultra big issues Andrew because those seem so embedded and guess what both sides are probably being funded by people they need to Deal with on the big issue side. All right. This is an unbiased view. Here's another solution I got the solutions guys. We need to inject more politicians who have STEM backgrounds You can't just be a business person and you can't be a career politician a lot of lawyers A lot of lawyers because lawyers are super to do lawyers are super sharp They know the law and how to get things done, but you so you need some lawyers But you also need a little bit more engineers a little bit more tech people a little bit more teachers Okay, yeah, I believe teachers. I believe the amount of STEM degrees in Congress in the Senate right now I believe is below 10% and realistically it needs to be like 50 It needs to be at least 30% it needs to be at least 30% STEM majors meet in the middle between 10 and 50 let's get 30 anyways guys. That's a that's not a left or right thing. That's just my educational proposal You know, I just don't understand why we can't have a government right now or like a political identity that seems like more well balanced You know what I mean? Like it feels like I don't know is it because we don't have enough VC points It's almost like you're trying to make this 2k basketball player, but you just ran out of points So you can't be good at everything So you're just like district one sides like distributing all on these traits and one son is all on these attributes So nobody's well balanced. Yeah, I don't know you guys. You know what? I would love to hear your thoughts down below Do you identify is either a Boba liberal or a Boba conservative or also like how should Asians decide on which side they choose? And do we have to if we don't then we are letting other people decide for our fate But if we do choose are we reluctantly choosing one? What are you choosing it for? Yeah, so what are your priorities as an Asian voter? Let me know in the comments down below guys We're just trying to have a discussion get people to think critically more. 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