 At this point, we'll call the April 25, 2022 meeting of the Town of Arlington Redevelopment Board to order. This open meeting of the Redevelopment Board is being conducted remotely for the governor's extension of the remote meeting provisions of Governor Baker's executive order of March 12, 2022, excuse me, 2020. This meeting, the ARB is convening via Zoom as posted on the town's website, identifying how the public may join. We know that the meeting is being recorded and that some attendees are participating via video conference. Accordingly, please be aware that other people may be able to see you and take care not to screen share your computer. Anything that you broadcast may be captured by the recording. So at this point, we'll move to a roll call to make sure everyone is here and can hear me starting with Ken. Yes, present. Jean. Present. Melissa. Present. And Steve. Good evening, Madam Chair. Good evening. I am Rachel Zenberry. We also have with us, Jenny Rae from the Department of Planning and Community Development. And Kelly lineup from the Department of Planning and Community Development. All right. So at this point, before we get into agenda item number one, I'd like to turn it over to Jenny, who has an update for us on the status of the approval of the housing plan. And I'd also love to just do a quick run through after that. Well, first we'll do that and we'll see if any questions and then we'll do another house keeping item. Thank you, Rachel. Yeah, the update is that last Wednesday evening, the select board adopted the housing production plan with some minor administrative amendments that Kelly and I are still taking care of that relate to some language that was used to describe the Arlington housing authority. And those amendments are, you know, minor in nature, but important and they were important to the select board. So we will, we're going to make those amendments. I'll share the final version of that, which is the version that we are going to send to the Department of Housing and Community Development for approval. That's the next step in the process. And then, you know, depending upon the outcome, which is likely to be positive, we will then have an approved and adopted fully adopted and approved housing production plan for the next five years. I just again want to thank the board for your time and attention reviewing it. And of course your adoption of it. And, you know, we're thankful. Thankful also that the select board took the time to review it and then provide those comments last week and that we're able to move forward. The other thing I want to notice that there was interest expressed with having a joint board meeting at some point in the future, probably after town meeting, which is something that we would follow up on from, you know, we did this in prior years where the two boards met together to talk about housing policy and sort of priorities moving forward. So, so that'll be something that you'll come back to following town meeting. So, June. And so with that, that was the update and I'll turn it back to you, Rachel with meeting updates. Great. Thank you. And the other thing I wanted to do this evening just because we have quite a few meetings coming up in the next. Two weeks is just to run through the meeting dates for the next two weeks and the times and Jenny and Kelly, I will ask you to keep me honest on this because I know that they've bounced a little bit. So we have a meeting on Wednesday. I believe that starts at 630 on the 27th. And then could you confirm we also have a meeting on Monday the second. Could you confirm the time that that one starts? That is that 630 as well. It's at 630. And then we have another meeting on Wednesday. The fourth, which is to review the. The draft report and approve the draft report for special town meeting. Yes. And that could be at seven. I mean, I would, I would say. Seven would be preferable. And then, you know, you end a little early and get a little break. Before town meeting convenes. Okay. Does anyone have any questions about the upcoming meeting times and dates? Can you confirm that was Wednesday, May 4th at seven? Correct. Okay. Thank you. All right. So with those two housekeeping items, we'll go ahead and move into agenda item number one, which is. To deliberate and vote on the 2022 special town meeting, zoning warrant articles. We previously closed the public hearing portion. Of this. Of this special town meeting. Review. And we will go ahead and start with deliberation on article two, which is related to family childcare. And Jenny, I'll turn it over to you first to see if there are any specific changes that you wanted to top line before we have our discussion. Yeah, thank you. I only received comments from Jean on this particular article, actually on all of the articles. So if you see red lines, the track changes, those are the track changes based upon feedback that was provided by Jean in advance of this meeting. Some of them are typographical. And those are things that we might transfer to the draft, to the report, to town meeting, but I'm just going to walk through the ones that are embedded in the bylaw amendment language themselves. Okay. So with this one, Jean's suggestion is to amend the definition by adding the licensing and then deleting this last sentence and deleting that last sentence, which he felt was not appropriate for the definition, but was more of a compliance matter. And so therefore better as a footnote. And so the footnote was amended in each. Relative section. The same. Those were the amendments. On the first page says is to it should also be one. Do you see that? Oh yeah, I'll just have to, I don't know why that's. Yeah. I'm not sure why that's doing that, but yeah, we'll make sure that that's the correct number. Oh, I see what it is. It's picking up this. Oh, I, I. I know what it is. I actually, I am. I amended the footnote in the document, not, not in the. Sorry, this is, this is a Monday brain problem here. This is not deleted. There we go. This footnote is to the, my apologies. Everybody, but that, that footnote belonged with the background. Okay. And then this, this. So I was like a footnote in the document. This is the table. And this is its footnote here. Okay. So, and then the same thing follows for each table. Okay. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Jenny. So to start discussion, perhaps Jean, we can start with you to see if there's anything in addition to the notes that you provided that you wanted to mention about this article. No, I mean, it's what we talked about and what we agreed. Made sense. And I just tried to, as you can see, move some of the wording around. So the definition is clearer and the, and the requirements are clear. Thank you, Jean. Ken, any discussion on this article? No, I have none. Great. Steve. Nothing for me, Madam chair. Melissa. Nothing with regard to the language that was changed. Okay. Great. So at this point, if there are no further. Any other items of discussion on article two, I'll see if there is a motion to recommend favorable action to article two as amended. So motion. I'll second. Right. We'll take a vote. Yes. Jean. Yes. Melissa. Yes. Steve. Yes. And I'm a yes as well. Thank you. The motion carries for favorable action with a vote of five to zero for article two. We'll now move to article three, which is a zoning by law amendment related to signs for shared mobility stations. And I'll turn it over to Jenny to top line. The changes that were made in the document. So I'm going to move to the next slide. I'm not going to be very straightforward, but I might need Jean to explain the first one. I'll do my best with what I believe he's trying to do here. We typically have definitions in groups. When we're introducing something new. So I think Jean's proposal. Is to add a mobility station. A sort of the, the, the heading to it. I've put in a definition, but I don't know if it's the same thing. I think it's the same thing. I think the shared mobility docking station and the electric vehicle charging station would be sort of underneath that. That would be the hierarchy. And then I struck hourly because actually, I mean, you could rent it on an hourly basis, but you could. There's many ways that it's rented. So I just took that out completely. Which was another one of the Jean's suggestions. I think perhaps the only other thing that changed since the last meeting was that there was no mobility options. Is that right, Kelly? Yeah. So we added micro this. This right here was also added. But it's not highlighted. So I just want to make sure I point that out. Jean, is there more to the definition piece that you wanted to share? The only thing I would. I shared in the reason I suggested mobility station. Is that if you look down later in the proposed bylaw. It used the term mobility station. I think it would make it clear. I think it would make it clear. We didn't have that. Define. So I thought it made more sense. To put it up here. And then I don't know if you need another state or another sentence or not. Jenny that says, you know, they include. And then those two. It's all up to you, but I think it would make it clear. If they say that. If you keep this here. I think it would make it clear. I think it would make it clear. So I think it would make it clear. That's the basic reason. We had the parts we needed, but not something that said mobility station. That was it. And otherwise, if I could say it, it's what we talked about. Yeah, it is. Yeah. And we, um, the numbering was off in the document. It's just meant to be one through. Et cetera. Um, and then the other comment was instead of specifically saying, including here. Um, and then I think the only other one was a comment about. Uh, well, this was highlighted, but it was really tied to the first point that Jean has already explained. So I've added an S, but I think actually it doesn't need enough. It doesn't need to be pluralized. Um, so now I understand. But, um, And I believe that was it. Yeah. On this one. The edits that were provided by Jean, but others may have other comments as well. Great. Thank you, Jenny. I appreciate it. Jean, did you have any other comments in addition to the edits? No, that was it. Okay. I liked as Steve said, I think, uh, nice job with the graphics. Great. Thank you. Uh, we'll go to Ken next. Any, any comments or discussion? Yeah, I thought we had discussed. If the sign. Had had nothing to do with, um, you know, electric electric charging or bike rentals or anything like that, then it will be termed. Advertisement. And, um, that, that one is that way that if it's interpreted that way there, it should be reviewed. I think we should just review it. Um, maybe with Jenny's department. Saying that, you know, I think we talked about maybe someone in appropriate signage that we don't want. I think we'll just picked up on that. Like, um, smoking or, I don't know what, you know, some less desirable types of signage or advertisement we don't want there in these billboards all over town, wherever these bicycle stations are in charging stations are. I mean, if it has to do with the charging station, fine. It makes sense until it's fine. But if they're using for advertising, we, uh, we want to have this review of what goes there. That's what we talked about. So I'll just add that, um, what we talked about was the fact that we don't have jurisdiction over the content. The select board has jurisdiction over the, over the content. And so, um, we here can identify what, um, what the size, the shape, the location, all of the, the, um, The graphic standards can be, but, um, the select board will need to be the body that reviews. And I would assume that, um, the select board would be very specific about the type of advertising that they would allow in terms of what contracts the town would enter into, um, for the, this is really Jenny, correct me if I'm wrong for sponsored signage as part of a funding vehicle for the, the town, um, To be able to provide this, this, um, the shared mobility stations. And so the, um, The town would still have oversight as to the selection of who that is. Jenny, if you want to jump in, just didn't clarify that. Those are, that's everything you just said is accurate. Okay. I'll withdraw my objection and I'm fine with this. Okay. Thank you, Kim. Uh, Melissa, any comments. For discussion. Um, no comment. So I think that this kind of maybe isn't a good example, just like one thing to alert the select men to, and if we're moving forward with the joint meeting, um, you know, just. Kind of making explicit the fact that, you know, this is not in our jurisdiction moving forward. We acknowledge that and we want them to be fully aware that they're, you know, kind of responsible for content moving forward. Yeah, we can absolutely do that. That's a good suggestion to follow up with. With them and make sure that they're aware prior to, um, town meeting as well. I can certainly follow up with, um, Len, who's the new chair of the select board and make sure that they're aware. Uh, Steve, any comments. Uh, no, I like the revisions. Great. I'm just making a note to follow up with Lynn. All right. Um, and I also am in support of the revisions. I appreciate the work that was done and the, the graphics that Kelly put together as well. So thank you. Um, so at this point, I'd like to see if there is a motion to, um, recommend favorable action for article three as amended. So motion. Second. Second. Right. Take a vote starting with Kim. Yes. Jean. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Can I, can I say something? Yes. I think that we need to add to the diagram. I forgot this. What's in all the other sign thing diagrams. Which says, um, this diagram is included for illustrator purposes only. It is not part of the Arlington zoning bylaw. We have that in all the other illustrations. Yeah. Of course. I'd like to amend the motion to have that added. At the diagram. Sorry. I forgot. No, that's fine. Okay. So we will. So you'd like to motion the addition additional amendment. Correct. Right. Okay. Great. Um, I think what I'd like to do is just go ahead and retake the vote. So if I could have a second to Jean's. Motion. Second. Thank you. We'll retake the vote starting with Kim. Yes. Yes. Melissa. Yes. Steve. Yes. I mean, yes as well. So we will recommend favorable action for signs for shared mobility stations. All right. So we'll now move to article four. Which is the zoning bylaw. Amendment related to non-conforming single family or two family dwellings. And Jenny, I will turn it over to you for any clarifications for this article. I actually, there was. I, other than in the sort of discussion, there were, there was nothing. No comments on this. On what was provided in the actual bylaw amendment. Which is to strike. Um, that particular subsection. See. Right. Nothing further. The other comments were to the discussion. There were some questions that Jean had, but they would have been appropriate for town council. And in the time I had today, I didn't, I was not able to connect with them. Okay. I don't know if you did though, Jean. I'll turn it over to you first. Yeah, go ahead. I did not have a chance either, but I had a communication with Christian Klein. The chair of the zoning board of appeals. And. It, I mean, based on that, I feel like C. Doesn't belong because it really is just confusing. And makes it more difficult for the ZBA to do its job. I mean, that's my takeaway. From the communication. From Christian Klein. And that, that. Follows the discussion that. I had with Christian Klein and Patrick Hanlon, who's the. Also. On the zoning board of appeals with Doug Hyme and Mike Champa, the director of inspectional services. That this section, this is basically leading to some confusion. Yeah. So I'm still, and, you know, I, I wrote a note to Jenny, which is, you know, I'm still, I must have a mental block on this. I can't figure out. Why it's prohibited by the Bellata decision. Even after having read it, but I'm still willing. To go along with getting rid of it because I think it's just unnecessary. Surplusage that just makes it more difficult. For the ZBA. Great. Thank you, Jean. Ken. I have no questions. All right. Melissa. No questions. Steve. No questions here. Great. And I also, and it's in. Support of this given the support from. Christian Klein of the ZBA and. The director of inspectional services and. Can I wonder if. In the report that goes to town meeting. I don't know if it would make sense to put something in about. The ZBA having us that have been removed. We can, we can certainly do that. Yeah. That would be great. Thank you. And just to follow on that thread. That's one thing that we did identify. I just recorded all of the. The video presentations today for all the other articles. And we did identify those articles that had been put forward by the ZBA and the zoning by law working group. So we can certainly. Mention that for this particular article as well. All right. So there is there. I don't believe that there were any amendments. Jenny. For this one. Nothing. No, nothing proposed. Okay. So is there a motion to recommend favorable action for article four? So motion. All right. Is there a second? I'll second. Great. Thank you. Take a vote. Kim. Yes. Yes. Melissa. Yes. Steve. Yes. And I'm a yes as well. I thought Steve was going to second as a former ZBA. Didn't get off of you fast enough. As a former ZBA, I will just say that nonconformities are hard. They're hard in their complex. So. Let's see. So article four, we will recommend a favorable action. So that brings us to the end. I'm going to move on to the next slide. I'm going to move on to the next slide. I'm going to move on to the next slide. I'm going to move on to the next slide. I'm going to move on to the next slide. I'm going to move on to the next slide. And I'm going to move on to the next slide. So that brings us to the end of. The special time meeting articles. I believe that we need to. I don't believe we need to close. We've already closed the public hearing. So Jenny, I don't believe that. Close the hearing. We're good. Fabulous. First night and last night. Yes. Very good. Very good. Let's see. So. That closes our. Agenda item number one. So we'll now move to agenda item number two. And that is meeting minutes. Jenny, if you could bring those up. I just had a couple of small changes. I believe that I saw Steve. Send a few. Revision is through today. We received one from John Seltzer, which Jenny, I believe you've incorporated already. I'm not sure if you have. Provided your revisions already. Great. So I'll go to. Great. Thank you. Yes, I do. Let's see. I believe it's on the third page. This is Mr. Laos spoke in support of the project. Yeah. Right here. Yeah. Okay. I had some remarks about. I like to change the word changing to extending the fence. Extending the fence around the parking. And then increasing bicycle interior. Increasing the interior bicycle parking. And the signage. Percentage or signage. Amount. That's the amount of signage. Yes. And then. Further down. It was Mr. Laos said that the sign on the fifth floor is probably okay, but. 200 square feet on the second on the second. Above the entrance is excessive. I'd like to add. Also. The blade of the pile on sign is excessive too. Sorry, where I, can you just tell me where that is? It's on the same page. I guess I'm here. Okay. Three paragraphs down somewhere that. Above the entrance is excessive. And then you want to add a sentence. And the pile on sign. Yes. The sign above the entrance. And the pile on sign is excessive. I see. I'm going to do this. Oops. That's fine. And then. The next paragraph down from there. This is. And stated. It's other things. His concern, not her. It's a little higher. Yeah. That paragraph right there. Yeah. I see. Somebody thought Rachel was still talking, I think. Fine. Okay. And then about the scaling and clarity. Yeah, that's fine. It's piling with a Y and not an I. Yeah, it is. Yeah. It is. And then I believe it's. Two pages down. Go back up. Right there. The last part, the last sentence on the third part of fourth paragraph up. I think I want to say the basis for opposition in to the. Programming. Is inappropriate. Not her. Not. Not the opinion is that her basis for saying that it's not the best use she sees, but that's, that's not that. That's not appropriate. We're not here to discuss the most appropriate use. I believe the program is allowed by, by right. So we can comment on other things, but not. The. That's your programming. So. Mr. Low stated that he respected Ms. Tentacla says opinion, but the basis for her opposition about programming. The program, you know, the fact that the storage chamber. Self storage. And if we wanted to make a change, we should change it in zoning, not with a review of the project. Rachel, if I might. Yes. And we're talking about the use though, Ken, aren't we? And it's a special permit. Yes, but uses allowed by. Right. And can did make that point during the meeting. And this is a. You know, the minutes of the meeting. So I do remember him. Making the point that it is an allowed use and that that wasn't something that he believed that we. Should be debating. Not at this, not for this meeting. During the public hearing. Yeah. Yes, I'm all game. If we want to discuss it during zoning. Change or so many of that, but not. For this thing here. Okay, that's all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I added a little clarification at the end as well, which I think is what you were trying to say, Ken. Yes. Future changes to the zoning by law are needed. Yep. Which I think you somewhat alluded to. Yep. Okay. Anything else? Nope. That's it. I'm sorry. Be quiet. Before you move. Jenny, the next paragraph down where it talks about the dimensions of the base spacing. It should have been the bay spacing B a Y. Oh, yeah. Great. Thank you. And on that, on that. Paragraph. I think one of the important things if I remember this correctly. That the applicant said that I thought should be in the, in the minutes. Is that because it used a 10 by 10 grid system. It would be difficult to convert the building to another use. And it probably would need to be demolished. If there's no longer use. For self storage. So I thought it was important to have that in there. I, I didn't go. I saw you had a couple of. Comments like that, Jean. I didn't go back to look. To listen to the recording exactly. I don't know. I don't know. This is a transcription from. But he, he did say that. And I was really struck by it. And I also thought it'd be good to have in the minutes, because I wanted to discuss it with the applicant. When they're next in front of the board. Do you have a sentence you want to, I'll type it in right now. Okay. I think we can do it really easily. He noted, which allows for greater flexibility, comma, But difficulty in repurposing the space. To a, to a different use in the, in the future. Okay. That's good enough. Thank you. You're welcome. There was another area like that, Jean, where you had a, you know, I think we can go back to Rachel. Great. I just have one, one additional item. It's on page two. And it's. About the third or fourth paragraph down. It's where we're talking about. So it's where the sentence of the paragraph that starts absent any public questions. Yeah. Okay. That's not it. Well, That's right. It's two, it's two more. It's two more sentences downward says as there were insufficient petitioners. Present. It was actually because we weren't, we were ahead of the, the meeting time. So it was. I don't think it was because the petitioners weren't there. The next sentence down. We had to move. We weren't able to move to the next article because. We were, we're ahead of the posted public hearing. Time. So do you want me to add. That here. The reason why we had to, to move wasn't because the petitioners weren't there. It was because we, we were ahead of the scheduled. Public meeting time. That's perfect. All right. That's all that I had. Melissa, did you have any additions or corrections? Nope. All right. Great. Thank you, Melissa. I had one. Okay. I think it's the next page. That starts with. There it is. No. There's one that says absent. It says absent. Further public comments. The chair question, the applicant regarding. Interior rain. Leaders, can you find that? It's on the fourth page. Okay. Yeah. Right. So. Then it says. Mr. Brian provided details on this. Yeah. And it will be really helpful. I don't know. I don't know what those details were. I'm pretty sure he said there'll be no drainage to the brook, but I'm not. You know, that's just my recollection. I think it would be really good to. Know what he actually said. Again, I, this was something you've mentioned earlier today, but I didn't have a chance to go back and see exactly what was said or compare it to what we asked them to provide. But I can't do anything about it at this moment. That's fine. Any other additions or corrections? Yes, if we could go back to Pylon. So the, and the Pylon sign as well. In context, I believe I'm the one speaking. As the minutes represented. So I think the Pylon sign as well, that should be attributed to Mr. Lau. Correct. So, um, So I thought Mr. Lau said that. No, actually, no, not quite. No, okay. I thought this was what he said. Is that what you said? Uh, so wait a second, hold on. It's, it's too long. The sentence actually. He agrees with Mr. Lau and that the sign on the fifth floor is probably okay. Yeah, could you strike the additional text? Mr. Lau said the sign on. Uh, and then let's move, let's see if we could maybe move in the Pylon sign as well. Up to earlier where Mr. Lau was commenting on signs. Just two or three paragraphs up. Oh, okay. Um, like second sentence down from that paragraph is the amount of signage you might want to add and Pylon sign or something like that. There, including the Pylon sign. Yeah. Want to change this paragraph still further or. Uh, No, I think that's. No, that's fine. We can go back to the fourth page. It's again, the one with the 10 by 10 grid system. Ever since discussion of layout and parking followed. I think it should say something like, uh, um, What did I put here? Um, The board said it expected to see at least 25 parking spaces. In a revised proposal. I think that's what we actually said. Not all of us, Jean. No, some members of the board. Let's say some members of the board. There you go. Said they expect. A member. Some members of the board. Or a member of the board said they expect. Anything else. I do have one, um, where, um, Mr. Brian has highlighted. I went and checked my notes and, um, I have a quote from Mr. I can offer a quote from Mr. Brian. He is. So instead of Mr. Brian. Uh, okay. It says, uh, Moving the rain, um, actually I have it down as Mr. Williams. Although, but at, um, that could be my mistake. Uh, this says it's not their preference. Uh, he says that people who rent storage units expect their belongings to stay dry and exterior drains have much less chance of allowing water into the building. Much better chance. I'm sorry. So, uh, exterior. Let me go back here. Brain leaders have a much better chance of. Have much less chance. Much less chance of allowing water into the building. Of allowing. Okay. Is that. Is that what you were talking about, Jean? No. Okay. I didn't think so. Yeah. In a separate, there was a question. About, um, whether there was sort of a swell at the end of the property. Yeah. Right. Rainwater and, uh, have it created on site. Right. And yeah, I think he said. It would not. Train to the brook, but I'm not a hundred percent positive. Be good to know that. Yeah. Maybe the, I think though that we had asked them to provide this information when they come back. So, um, he may have provided details during the meeting, but I know that we asked them to do that for the. Revised materials that actually were already posted today. So you can look at them. Um, but that, that might be the way to handle it because I, I don't remember exactly what he said. He was vague as what, as what I recall. I don't know what he said. I don't know what he said. I don't know what he said. I don't know what he said. I just wanted to confirm. Right. Let's leave it like that. Okay. Okay. All right. There's another one here. That's like he provided details, but the details are not in the minutes. Right. So. Any other additions or corrections. Right. Is there a motion to approve the meeting minutes from March 28th, 2022 as amended. Okay. We'll take a vote. Ken. Yes. Jean. Yes. Yes. Melissa. Yes. And I may as well. So the meeting minutes have been approved as amended. All right. So are there any other housekeeping items? Jenny, I think we've covered. Most of everything. We didn't have a public forum on the agenda tonight due to. The meeting. So we're going to move to. We're going to move to timing. And then we are now at the point that we need to see if there is a motion to adjourn to town meeting. So motion. There a second. Second. We'll take a vote. Ken. Yes. Yes. Melissa. Yes. Steve. Yes. And I may as well. Thank you very much. And I will see some of you in a few minutes. Have a good evening. Bye. Bye everyone.