 How do I balance the need to move to the cloud with the need to reduce cost? Now one of the things that we have in our IT departments is that we are under pressure to reduce cost we're also getting pressured to move to the cloud and As some people have asked hey guess what sometimes when I move to the cloud my costs go up. How do we how do we? Fight that tension Well, the first thing is is we don't move everything all at once We need to learn about how the cloud operates and how it and how it costs us money All right So the first thing that we do is we can either take a look at an existing Project that we have that may be hard to maintain on premise But that there's tools in the cloud that are going to help us and we can not move that and we can look and see what What impact that has on our budgets we can look and see what it's going to cost us versus the effectiveness that we gain Or we start with a greenfield project Something that we can move to a service that's consumption based maybe not based on virtual machines and and our Former processes of how we would deploy things we could go to functions as a service or we could go to containers and Take advantage of some of the built-in scale That's provided there that allow us to scale up on demand and only pay for what we're using As we start as we start to do that we're going to gain a familiarity with how the cloud operates and how the cloud Bills us and from there we can build a plan to migrate existing services And we're going to start to find out which services we are actually getting the biggest bang for our buck is Through that you'll start to build that comfort level. You'll be ready to move the next services