 let's see here all right hey hey guys welcome to splitting hairs the hairdressers podcast we're trying to get a little bit more advanced how are we feeling everybody has their own microphone you feel legit now okay cool so let's see I want to make sure that we got all hands on deck looking good okay so welcome to splitting hairs again hi hi morning good morning we have Brian here we have Drea Boland Thaddeus Boland is out for the day did he take a sick day or what did he do I'm confused because he yesterday when I talked to him he's like you know just 930 to 930 is just a long day I'm like but you're gonna get up and go to the gym so gonna be 930 just won't be in this building yeah so I so what he meant was 930 is a long day to be with you for 12 hours is that what he meant well no if he came here from 930 to 930 then he gets up at 4 and goes the gym beforehand oh and that's what makes a long day right yeah well of course you can't skip a workout that would be ridiculous trust me you can I know I was like I was working on gains yesterday so I went to the gym in the morning and then I ate potato chips last night so I feel like I gained plenty over the over the evening so let's look at things that we're gonna talk about besides that today we're gonna go over some celebrity hair changes like we always do and then we have some industry news but you know we're gonna have a little bit different spin on that today and we're obviously gonna go over our questions from social media which we usually kick off first so let's do that we have a few different people chatting us up and we had Michael Taylor who is a great Facebook fan of ours he writes a lot he what is it the deal with Maine and it's it was kind of funny I actually just found out through a comment that he left on I believe the ombre video he's a hairdresser in Freeport Maine which was so random because that's actually where I grew up and had my first job when I was 12 years old not at his salon but but what you guys don't know is Brian actually grew up everywhere yeah yeah one of my points of great when I was 12 that's where I was growing up because if you would have asked me right before that thing he I would have said he grew up in Alabama absolutely but then maybe he grew up in California because he was there too and Connecticut and Connecticut so I feel like California was the later years so when you get so I feel like it's good to go into the real kind of foundation yeah get from school you know I think salon reality is absolutely apprenticeship all the way but at the same time you're only learning from one person or a salon of people where I feel like at the schools you get a broader spectrum yeah of knowledge as well as for state board I know at my school we had state board boot camp right before we graduated guaranteed that we were gonna pass state board first try right yeah but you got to look at too I think about a couple ways because if you have let's say you have somebody who is in an apprentice they it's good because you can focus on their skills I think right so there's a benefit there but then they're not surrounded by very many people to get you know to really have a lot of different ideas put put towards them so I think if you if you're gonna go the apprenticeship route I think doing things like giving them this stuff to watch or watching other people's videos or sending them to classes I think oh geez would be you know the way to go for me I think an apprenticeship is great just a longer period but you get to spend more time with them and train them yeah it is a more personal program as well like you said yeah I just don't think it would have worked for me because in my first year I worked in five different salons and that would have been starting an apprenticeship over and over and over and over so spinning in there for a while yeah then yeah go for it yeah and it's cool for the salon too because you know you have somebody who is going to be really dedicated for a couple years helping you out and you get to train them at the same time so you know I think it's I think it's you have the opportunity to do it keep it up alright this is for Brian there's actually a lot of color questions you weren't here last week so building up is it they build up on the Balayage video so I want I want to go over a few of those things and also in what proportions do you mix the conditioner with the color really it's just to to reach the desired color that you want the the only piece of advice I want to make sure you give is constantly be testing it on like a white paper towel or something to see where the color is at and be careful because if you pastel you're going to want it actually darker in the bowl than you want it on the hair because unless you are able to get that hair fabric to pure pure white it's going to wash out the pastel tones and it's going to come out much more faint than you were intending right yeah so if you if you're going for that real real baby pink you might want to stop mixing conditioner and when you get to like cotton candy pink or yeah bubblegum pink okay cool and Adrienne can you actually put up on Facebook let's ask them what their favorite how would you say like like temporary color or favorite fantasy fantasy color color line that would be cool to find out why like I it's great when people say I like this I don't know why they like that yeah it's good all about trying something new if there's a reason right okay and then the next one is I have a question haha since since it's going to be different in coloring darker hair my hair is black okay what do you advise should I bleach my hair the same way and then color it pink after if you're just going for the lighter ends kind of look then yeah you can go through actually if you refer to like the the straight-up armory video where I did almost that same technique with the lightener then you can get the ends light and all that and then just go over the whole thing with pink and then you'll end up with a really cool black into pink effect yeah if pink's the color you're going for right and pink is usually tends to be one of the easier ones so if you lighten yeah but you're gonna have to light right otherwise it's like having black construction paper in a box of crayons right sit there all day but it's not gonna do anything all right and let's see the next one was a funny question just wondering where you got your blue rollabouts from that's all you which cracked me up because I got those at salon Deepa which is also known as Ikea Ikea is that you know we put together almost our whole salon using Ikea because you know it's it's affordable and you know I was 25 when we bought the salon so it's not like you know it was I had a bunch of money laying around that I just said hey let's open this place you know we went to Ikea we picked up mirrors and we used the rollabouts I don't like traditional rollabouts to be honest I most of the time they're just a tray or like the ones that we had prior to this you know it was just kind of they had random holes yeah so this kind of works for us because we can put everything in it and it holds it well and they were 50 bucks you know so if you're if you're looking at spending $150 for a piece of right you know I thought that this these are metal and they you know they they seem to work really well for us so I don't know what you guys think I like them I like all the extra storage I like it's also clearly a good station piece yeah that's not something we were focused on in the video and it's not something we focus on with guests but it's just another thing that we can talk to yeah them about it's just being a little bit different you know just standing out a bit so okay we got that so did she process under a dryer she was talking about the Bollieage video actually none of them did because it's exposed and out in the open the number one thing you don't want to happen is that lightener to dry out so putting it under a dryer while we may expect it to accelerate the lightener it may dry it out before you get to the desired level of lightness so I don't recommend going under a dryer with it okay and then next one was thanks for being honest about how long it took to apply this great video thanks for sharing I actually put that in there it's not a question but I liked it because that's what we're trying to do with you know we did speed it up so that you know that you didn't have to sit through however long the application was but you know the fact that you did say how long it took I think was good we're trying to be honest with everyone in the way that we do hair I think any hairdresser can put out a three minute video and make it look cool so when you actually sit under a microscope for 25 minutes and let people watch exactly how you're working you know you leave yourself open for either criticism or you know or it can really help people so I think it was cool that you know you mentioned that and and that's what we're trying to do for you guys is just really be honest and show you guys exactly what we do in the salon next one was do you cover the hair with plastic wrap to keep it from drying out I have not tried that yet I've heard good things I've heard why people like doing it really in all honesty the number one reason that I haven't done it yet is just because when I work with Balayaj I'm usually by myself and my whole life I've been absolutely terrible at saran wrap like I just have I don't have that thing in my brain that teaches me how to do it and not make a mess yeah so generally I'm working on you know salon speed salon timing I have another guest coming in so I can't be sitting there wrestling with plastic wrap one of these had to rip it off nicely and help me out just to try to see if I like it better but I have had enough success without it yeah I'm okay for right now without it yeah and I'm honestly that's got to be the truth because we have a lot of saran wrap here every time we get finished with a brush we clean it and saran wrap it for the next guest so you have it but I don't think we've ever had a challenge where you needed it and I think it's just an extra added it takes time to do that and I don't think we've never had a challenge with Balayaj right not I mean everyone watching these videos not everyone's going to have an assistant right and it's great if you do and if you've got an assistant that can sit there and tear each piece off for you in between cool go for it right that's awesome but you know our reality we don't have someone that's going to stand there and do it so I need I tried to find a way that was self-sufficient and yeah efficient at the same time great so would you do this technique on a darker level four or five or just stick to the lighter levels it's Balayaj as well I like it on all levels I mean obviously you're gonna get different effects if you've got a level four or five which I've done this on you might just not get to white blonde ends you might just do it to bring them up to a caramel a blonde or even a light brown just to get dimension in there right actually one of my favorite guests she's coming this weekend so I'm excited to see her she is an eight weaker like she cannot come any sooner than eight weeks she has some gray she's very very dark four tops level four and I had to kind of come up with a solution that was gonna work with her color wise cover some of the grays give her something that's gonna last long enough to last eight weeks and she likes red so I actually mixed up a really pretty I believe same level four five maybe like a red violet color and then just Balayaj that through which it allowed me to sort of target those grays that needed to be covered right and it gave her a really nice red dimension that grows out gracefully because I'm not gonna see her for two months okay so it doesn't always have to even be blonde it can be multitudes of other things right all right and then Angela your buddy your buddy she said very pretty did you have any issues going over her previously lightened hair any damage also I attempted this on a fellow student with a cream lightened lightener and it swelled with a few spotty areas I know you said you use one that does not swell but do you have any any other recommendation thanks Brian I mean in all honesty the the most guaranteed way to not get those bleed marks is to find one that's not gonna swell I know there are lots of lighters out there that advertise that they don't so I would try to get your hands on one of those I mean I've done it just in all of my experimenting I've used lighteners that I know so there's almost nothing that I can say you know to help with that like if it's well if it's gonna puff up then that means it's gonna touch hair you didn't mean for it to and it's gonna bleed there's the damage on her hair no because I I mean I talked with her about her history she wasn't remarkably like blasted out with lightener at some point she had just had some highlights so as I went over them you know it was just with the 20 volume so I let it sit so it was it just gently got her a little bit brighter and her hair felt fine afterwards because again it kind of almost helps not having it in a foil because it doesn't over incubate anything right you know you can babysit it to the point where you exactly want it to stop it's not turn around and 10 seconds later it went way too far right so okay good and then the last one is from Michael again but the reason this wasn't a question from him this was one thing that I wanted to point out said he was glad to hear that his backhand tip worked so we've actually we've taken that even a little bit further with the backhand technique now you're like taking a glove and ripping it and so that there's at least a glove a rubber piece on the back of your hand maybe we can create like a stick on there we go now no one steal our idea yeah sorry delete that out so but let's put it this way so glad to hear my tip for backhand helped as a pallet helped was a great technique I picked up and has made a huge difference in the efficiency of my balayage application love what you guys are doing here I've been planning to do a YouTube channel myself I think I noticed you guys are also looking for contributing educator videos now here's where I want to say something about this because freesaloneducation.com is an open site you can't just go on there and post a video and the reason you can't do that is because I want to make sure that everything that goes on that site is pure education for the reason of education we're told that want to contribute to the website so if you want to start your own YouTube channel start doing videos if you're inspired by what we're doing with the videos it doesn't cost a lot of money as long as you have a nice camera which you know you can get for it's gonna cost you a little bit at the at the beginning and then by a microphone we use a Yeti microphone for our voiceover work it just plugs right into your computer and you can talk over but I think it's very important that you walk everyone through and you know and do the videos and if you if you get a video that you like post it send it to us we'll take a look at it I would love to put it up on the website and spread the word and you know that's why it's freesaloneducation.com and not gratitudeeducation.com eventually I would like it to be open to more than just us doing the videos obviously we're trying to do a video a day and it's it's a lot of work so you know eventually we're not gonna be able to do it and it'll be good to have people contributing throughout so that's all we have for four questions on that everybody feel good about that I feel good feel good feeling nice alright so let's look at next we want to talk about some industry news the one thing I want to talk about here is that we have Purology launches color fanatic it was a product that basically what I was looking up on it was that it's it's a spray that has 21 hair care benefits to color treated hair which you know I want to I'm looking to get a hold of these guys to try it out it's one of those things where you can't really review it but what it says is color fanatic protects color from fading conditions detangles moisturizes and seals the hair cuticle the wide range of color fanatics beautifying properties prime the hair for salon services protect hair from strength and condition and perfect for the hair's surface to control frizz static and shine so basically they're saying that this product does everything alright so I'd really like to try it out so I want to try to get a hold of those guys this week and that kind of leads me to my next thing which I think is really funny Tuesdays is my day that you guys you have off you work right work yeah so Tuesday is my day where I sit basically at my computer all day long and I make phone calls to try to get either people to sponsor the website or people to send us products for reviews just try to spread the word about freesong education and I it's it's so funny because yesterday I'm gonna go off on this a little bit but trying to explain to companies what we're doing is one of the biggest challenges I have I have ever dealt with professionally because people don't understand it so basically a phone call goes I call them I finally get a hold of somebody which is very difficult then you start talking to them and you're like so I'm providing free salon education for hairdressers and they're like so it's free I'm like yeah and they're like well so what what are you getting from this like can you just do something like so obviously this is a business that I'm trying to build right so that's not a I see you know something in the end result of this website but right now it's a growing website I mean we're not it's not a big big website at this point so what I'm trying to do is just get companies to be involved with us to help the growth of the company we'll bring on indie is a great example in the two-second sentence products for us to try out that's what I like about in a company freestyle systems called him he understood it in a heartbeat he's like so you want to provide free education we're totally on board we want to support you in this so that was cool Millennium software the same way and now Mitsutani scissors are jumping on board so we're gonna have some really cool scissor reviews and different haircutting techniques with their scissors so you know some companies are getting it and there's four that I'm really in love with right now because they're just totally on board with everything it's just unbelievable some of the people I called yesterday and just trying to explain they're like I don't understand you're not so what do you want from us I'm like I don't want I just want your product to try and we'll try it we'll do a review and then I think they get freaked out that we're not gonna like it and that's the other thing with the website we're trying to be very honest so you know we're not gonna set a product up here the whole entire you know splitting hairs podcast and not like it so you know so there's a lot of things going on pure ology is one of those companies I definitely want to contact to see if see if we can try out their new product now the next thing and Brian you can't see this picture need to get a little screen for you guys but this is a picture of your chemical source capture system that you were talking about last week you were at a salon teaching and they had that event that sucks the fumes right so there's actually so I found it was online and it's a healthy air chemical source capture system from AeroVex systems so if you go to AeroVexSystems.com it's basically this contraption it's very it's it's crazy looking a little bit but you know I think it's the thing of the future we're dealing with people you know getting cancer from everything and and all this stuff so to be able to suck the fumes out of either your keratin treatment even your coloring anything you just sit your guests under there and it sucks the fumes and ventilates the air so kind of cool yeah I mean it was it was brilliant whoever came up with it because again you know we would all love to work in these gigantic spacious vaulted ceiling salons but you would everybody would nice big we would all love to work somewhere else but we'll take this now what I mean is you everyone would love enough space to swing a cat in all reality you know was that in Alabama saying or a swing a cat yeah that's it's very southern it means is there room yeah now but I think reality is you know like us here it's you don't always have a huge huge space so when you want to do services perform services like that that you know do put off some kind of odor or fume or whatever it's good that they've got a solution now so that places I was at a small salon in New York City when I saw that yeah you know there's nothing you can do the space you get the space you get in New York right that's great that they have that so they can still perform the same services yeah everybody thinks that if you say salon in New York City that it's gonna be like this big unless you live in New York City then you know or closer but I know where I grew up you know in Iowa if you said salon in New York City you would think of just beautiful it I mean there's a few salons on you know probably Fifth Avenue or something I'm from Iowa so I don't really know but you know there's a few salons that are gorgeous beautiful salons but not everyone it's for deep for Kai or you know any of those people so so where were you what some are you at you just shooting that thing that neuro thing right cool so okay so there was one other little part this is sort of a business tips and industry news kind of in the same but it's eight ways to make millions in a salon business this was an article that I saw last night online eight ways to make millions in salon business so I'm like all right if there's only eight things that you need yeah that sucked me in and so I wanted to hate this article instantly so I was already frustrated and upset heart rate whatever and it was from organic salon systems calm and then I start reading it and I'm like okay I don't get the millions part I totally it does suck you in so thank you for that title because I probably wouldn't have read this article right but but it's great advice so here's the thing the first thing was and I want to go through each eight of these things because then we can get opinions on that but carry exclusive products now for me that one I don't necessarily agree with I've been in a lot of salons that the owners like you know I have the only product this this product is nowhere else in the United States well then no one knows about it no one cares what they mean or do they just mean one brand no no they say let's face it there are 25 salons within a few miles of your salon that offer L'Oreal redkin well-up urology bumble and bumble and Paul Mitchell so but now yeah I I don't care no one cares if it's we carry Bob's shampoo yeah trust me yeah London and I don't I don't necessarily agree with that is make you millions but I think more brand recognition is the way to go I mean the cameras having a hard time today but all right develop long-term relationships with your clients obviously there's not even I didn't even copy any more of that paragraph because that's exactly true you know that's our goal and everything that should be number one on that list because you have to develop long-term relationships because that's how you keep your guests focus on cultivating ethos which is how you pronounce that had a hard time I know what it means but are we good yeah so basically do good things is basically what we're talking about in tip number five get out into your it's about the salon and what it looks like anymore or how expensive your salon looks what is your salon doing for the community doing for you know the environment all that stuff you know are you a good place are you good people what are you doing and and speak that louder than what the walls look like and what's hanging in on all that be savvy about your prices one of the of a salon industry is that salons raise their prices and lose clients while this is normally true in most industries savvy salon owners have realized that higher prices on their service menu allows them to provide provide more attractive programs so you know it it's it's one of those things I have my haircuts are $100 if but I don't always charge people $100 it's just the value of seeing it at a hundred and then we run different you know it's we're gonna grow with the time gas prices are gonna rise housing costs and hairdressers well we just raised your prices right so you know it was a little nerve-wracking but you know what it's been fine no one's gotten mad about it because they've built the long relationships with people and they say okay cool yeah congratulations on getting a promotion yeah because you got to think about it too it's only maybe 10 $20 different for them right in the in the big scheme of things with ours is great and it's a huge raise for you right but for each individual guess it's not a lot of money so if you have those relationships and that's why we don't move you in your you have those relationships and you're in demand and you're hitting certain numbers because if you're not and we move you you know you're gonna lose people so let's just get through these then we can hit celebrity hair have an exit strategy exit strategy for me you you have to figure out where your business is going and where because obviously I'm not gonna be a salon owner for the rest of my life in some way I got a trickle down it's got to go somewhere so you got to have an end in mind and where you're trying to take your business so you know I don't think that that's like super important thing but I do think it's something you got to think about thing that try I try really hard as a salon and that was my thing at the beginning everybody's like you should name your salon the Matt Beck salon whatever I think that's lame but not not saying that anybody that names are salon after themselves is a lame thing but for me it's not my personality or the brand that I was trying to create we went with gratitude salon education because of the the way of being 25 and being able and I never thought would happen I didn't even really expect it it just did so you know gratitude was something that it's not my name on the sign people don't come in me in the salon sometimes they ask for the owner just because some people are like that but for the most part they come in here for gratitude salon not for me and that was if I have an exit strategy someday in life you can't build I couldn't build the Matt Beck salon and then you know really was my thing with that so I never really wanted it to be all about me I wanted to be about the team that's in here and the business itself growing you I liked it she chopped her hair off I don't know I think did you get it up there you go so she has a really nice I have it up here they're not even that camera's not even on right now so let's describe it to people hopefully listening to us on iTunes but so it's basically like medium length chop haircut with a kind of a fall ombre kind of feel to the hair color you can't see it on that picture but when she was on Kelly and Michael you could see it was like really soft auburn tones through it it looked really it looked really nice so totally a fan of that what do you I have Jennifer Lawrence of course Jennifer Lawrence let's see if we can pull up the video here and then maybe you can show it to all of our friends and let's explain what this look looks like to iTunes kind of good yeah there's a glare you can see the outside oh there we go perfect it's good so what do you think Jaya so what's the deal with this so it's just a nice shorter longer pixie while longer pixie shorter bob longer pixie longer pixie what's really neat about hers is she's been completely honest about the reason why she's been cutting her hair shorter and shorter and it has to do with the reality of going from brunette for her Hunger Games role and back to blonde constantly switching it back and forth and she's just damaged her hair and she wanted healthy hair and cut it off I actually heard that she she did that purposely to upset her the director that was she said that is a joke she wanted to give him a heart attack I only know the joke parts I don't know the facts like you guys she seems hilarious okay cool so we got her so then my next one is Jennifer Aniston right so the thing I liked about this in this picture you guys can't see it but it's a picture of her and her colorist this picture exactly wow you guys are quick okay that's how the world found out alright so what I liked about is she's back and better than ever thanks to part thanks in part to her longtime colorist Michael you think it's canali I'm sure if he's watching then he can adjust so one day after Jennifer Aniston's stylist Chris McMillan okay okay so he so he basically gave her the new do right and then then she had her colorist so she has two different people I got it horrible bosses too did you see that first one no it's pretty funny you should watch it anyways let's move on so what's the next one you got there dream oh we have Kesha's and we have a guest here should we bring her in and put her on did you just shush her away I guess it's freezing outside okay so let's um let's just finish this up and then she's really early that's great we have Kesha has a new rainbow of colors that are in the past all Brian do you want to show it off sure all right we'll see your guest through there too okay oh that looks great so my favorite when I see something like this is I instantly want to know Brian's opinion on it because he has such strong feelings towards every single color that watching his reaction to things is possibly one of my favorite things to do that's funny I mean it looks it's a good pastel I actually don't mind on the other looks pretty I dig it it's Kesha so she can get away with it right yeah I like it I wouldn't look that good with it but she's good she's good all right okay so let's um couple all together how many more do you have in there I have like three more three more yeah wow okay I did a lot of research this week yeah rocket fire them off let's talk about them all right so we have Natalie Portman who we talked about a couple weeks ago with her fake ombre that we didn't okay yeah has now gone back to a really deep chocolate color chocolate okay which I personally love I think she looks better with the deeper colors yeah I think she heard what we were saying she called she did she she's actually she's being a mom and busy right so okay last thing and then we'll get to we have a giveaway it's gonna start today I'm gonna post it on Facebook and out in a little bit we're giving away from Indy a stylist kit so we have that I'm just showed a picture we have a stylist kit right in front of us the way that you're gonna win this one I'm still gonna decide we're gonna post on Facebook how long this contest is gonna be it's gonna be very short though but what you have to do is go on to our Facebook like us on Facebook and then tag yourself in the photo of this product and once you tag yourself in the photo you're automatically up for a chance to win this full stylist kit that Indy is actually gonna send to you so so it's really cool I built a great relationship with them I'm really excited we're gonna do reviews of these products tonight we've all been playing with them for the last week I talked to Indy yesterday so I got the download on what their goals so I'm excited to share that but we actually have really enjoyed playing with these products you know I think this is the one of the first product lines in a while that's like stood out above other things so really excited about that and then I want to make sure you log on to our YouTube channel actually you're probably on it for watching this video but look for Thad's latest razor cut that we put out this week it's actually already got 500 views so good for Thad people are loving it so check it out as a long layered razor cut and I want to say congratulations to Brian post up a photo of his ombre before and after because his ombre video hit 100,000 views yesterday which is the first video of ours to hit 100,000 views so congratulations it's really cool I think we work you know we're working hard towards producing these videos and to know that so you guys have really liked it that much and you know we've seen that many views is really really cool so please check out our like us on Facebook gratitude salon education all separate follow us on Twitter at salon education and make sure you obviously subscribe to YouTube and then check out our website freesaloneducation.com Brian what hairstyle yeah on Instagram on Instagram yeah it's hairstyle but I hear Instagram's like the the new like Facebook if you're on that you're kind of a lame-out that's what I hear that's where the world's going yeah Instagram so Instagram is it's hairstyle but it's H-A-I-R-E S-T-Y-L-E yes my last name yes you forget there's pictures of me around the internet with a tattoo okay H-A-I-R-E style okay it is Dre Day 2289 Dre Day 2289 what is 2289 my I was born on the 22nd she's like it's my social security number stop asking the day I was born in the year I was born okay all right what's the month the month I was born is June but June somebody June all right so we have we have guests so we have to go we have to get to our salon day thank you guys so much for watching our splitting hairs episode and if you're not watching and you're on iTunes thank you for listening