 This is covering the spread part of the Fandall podcast network Last night we got to see the top of the table in action with the kinsley cheese falling to the Philadelphia Eagles today We're talking about the bottom end and talk about the teens and the playoff hunt But not necessarily in the playoffs as of yet We're gonna talk to Ryan Williams get his read on what the playoff picture in both the AFC and the NFC looks like right now Then I'll dive in and outline where I see value across week 12 in the NFL It's this covering the spread right here on the Fandall podcast network and Fandall research. My name is Jim saw this I am a managing editor of digital media for Fandall research joined here as I am every Tuesday by Ryan Williams Check him out on Twitter at Ryan Alexander underscore W Ryan pretty fun game last night Not a super high story affair, but I thought it was still an enjoyable contest overall. How you doing today? Yeah, I'm doing all right. It was a um, it was a lackluster Matchup to start. I mean which we kind of talked about yesterday those defenses Came out and really showed out especially on the chief side I think that was the most impressive thing to me, you know for three and a half quarters is that that chief's defense was just Unbelievable against a very good offensive line and a very good scheme offensive team You know, it's it's the tail is oldest time, you know Who can my tomes trust outside of Kelsey and even then, you know Kelsey with the fumble in the red zone You know turnovers are not gonna, you know, get it done in this league And you know when your receivers have six drops or whatever the case may be in the game yesterday and leading the league and Drops like, you know, this is just gonna be there. They're Achilles heel all year I was surprised to not see, you know, the rookie Rishi rice get as much work As we had thought in the past, you know Tending to lean on Justin Watson and the phone is scaling unbelievable just a little bit there But you know, it's still my homes It's still Kelsey and the way that the defense is playing my goodness I mean that they can definitely, you know, keep the keep the score close And so, you know, normally in those instances you give my home's back under two minutes To just be able to you know get down the field and maybe kick a field goal It you know, I think they'll be all right, but but yeah, you know shout out to the Eagles, you know, sitting with that one loss Record still and you know, they look like pretty much they have they it's their Conference I should say to lose especially, you know with one loss they give themselves a nice buffer here Going into week 12. Yeah, pretty tough matchup for them to in week 12 taking on the Buffalo Bills I'll talk about that game later on in the show for today Because it's a pretty fun matchup there between the Eagles and the Bills But big players make big plays and shockingly Devontae Smith a bigger player than Mark Wez-Valdes gambling who could have possibly Predicted that but shout out to the Eagles for their way in a last night We're gonna dive into the playoff picture and talk about some teams more the fringes talk about the Bills a bit talk about the Chargers The ASC race and of course the wide open NSC as well all here in just one second First day reminder to make sure you're subscribed to covering the spread wherever you get your podcast We of course have our NFL week number 12 full preview tomorrow with Dr. Ed Feng But also well college football in there, too So we've got to talk about the game between Michigan and Ohio State So we'll have both on the show for tomorrow to get you ready for a big week in both college and the NFL Also, Tom Vecchio will break down his very player props across the Thanksgiving three game slate That'll be up here on the covering the spread podcast feed and a fan dual TV plus on Wednesday So make sure you are subscribed wherever you get your podcast If you like what you hear leave us a five star rating on Apple podcast or over on Spotify Let's talk now about the playoff races Ryan because I think they're pretty interesting on both sides things starting to take shape Let's talk about the ASC side of things where Marcus not back up as of yet for to make or miss the playoffs But prior to last night's game the bills were plus 164 the chargers were plus 360 The ceilings were minus 110 to make it for this year So when you're looking at the AFC side of things any value for you that you saw any teams you want to buy into as of right now Yeah, I mean I've been talking about Buffalo all year. So I'm gonna stick with that I mean even even Buffalo's futures, which we can get into later I think have some merit to them. You know, they really have had Just you know the Denver loss, you don't feel great about that But you know losing a Cincinnati when you know Cincinnati was kind of firing all cylinders there a couple weeks ago by six You know losing to new England by four losing the Jacksonville a playoff team by five At home was a tough one and then the Jets to start off the season just in the weird game Like they just have been in kind of these word matchups But you know the thing that I look at Jim is in their wins like how dominant they are and I don't care Who the competition is like when you're winning by 25 plus points, you know in More than 60% of your wins in a season like you you got something going on there And so I think they just really need to dig deep figure it out. You know, you love that, you know Khalil Shakir is getting into the mix there. This guy looks like he he can perform for him No idea where Dave Davis has been he's on a moat carton I expect Stefan Diggs to be able to get going and you love James Cuck like, you know, they moved on from Devon single Terry For this kid and he seems to be, you know, one of the best backs that they've had in the Josh Allen era to be able to rely on And I think the defense, you know, if they can stay healthy, they can get there. They have a great matchup against Philly I can't wait to hear your breakdown before they go into the buy after that buy They are on the road in Arrowhead and then they have to face Dallas at home So, you know, they they really kind of control their destiny But you know, these are the type of things like we talk about right Are the schedule and you know looking ahead and if you're telling me that, you know Right now we can get the bills that plus money to make the playoffs and they can you know Go against some playoff caliber teams and have a chance to win those games And then the market changes on its head like I want to be in on that This was a preseason, you know one of the preseason favorites in the AFC to be, you know, in the in the dance late And I still want to take advantage of the marketplace there So the bills are definitely one that I'm looking at obviously, you know, very willing of with Cincinnati losing Joe Burrow So I think we have to be off of them. I mean, the AFC is absolutely not great to talk about Which which lens there's some merit to be, you know, okay So the what the wildcard picture shapes up right now with Cleveland, Houston and Pittsburgh being in there I think Buffalo will and can and will knock Pittsburgh out of that race To get one of those spots and I still don't know what to think about Cleveland I mean the defense is good enough to keep them in games Love DTR like loved him at UCLA. Yeah, this product is just so fun to root for But, you know, can one of these other teams outside on the outside looking in knock them out It's very tough to trust Indianapolis. Like what about Denver Jim? Like they're five and five right now sitting with the 500 record and you know I kind of had some futures on Denver to begin the season that aren't looking they're still not looking great But you know now we get back into that mix. This is a 500 team You know granted they play in a tough division But when you're looking at their schedule here like and look look their wins like, you know Beating Kansas City beating Buffalo beating Minnesota all three of those a playoff team like they beat Green Bay That that team is kind of you know on the up and up in the NFC And so they got a matchup against Cleveland right helping your playoff race now You're sitting at six and five you're at Houston. That's gonna be a tough one You're at the Chargers like is Brandon Staley even gonna be the coach for the Chargers That makes me hard to trust them. So I think they have a favorable matchup They will have a matchup in Detroit as well too, but it I Brought in Sean Payton They kind of started off tough to start the season and it would be like oh well Yeah, Denver made it in because the way their defense is playing and you know Russell was able to make it work So I think I don't know what the odds are on Denver But I think I might be taking some shots on them just with how this day the AFC is Yeah, they're a team definitely worth checking in on once odds are reposted for the AFC because it's just a I think that what you're talking you're referring to is there's a lot of vulnerability at the bottom of the table in the AFC because of The Steelers not having the world's most fish and offense because of the Browns not having to Sean Watson because of the Bengals not having Joe Burrow there's a lot of room for teams to make a run Which is why Buffalo might be able to make it even without being perfect in this brutal brutal schedule They have and right. I think the way I'd handle Buffalo is Do you think they are a value to win in week 12? If you think they're a value in week 12 Then that's where you consider their playoff number as well I think that you kind of need to ask that if then question with them I do think they're a good value to potentially maybe not win this week But like I think they can cover which means that they could potentially make a run at the win as well So I think that's why I'd handle them But I think agree that Denver at least worth checking out once odds are reposted later on this morning on the NFC side Honestly, Ryan a lot of teams have at least an outside shot Especially now the Vikings had that loss against Denver there. There's some stuff up for grabs there. So What do you what are you looking at there? Which teams are you buying as potentially making a run here over the next couple of weeks? Yeah, this could become as interesting because I really did like Minnesota's chances You know a lot that earlier on, you know, I was thinking about them Even to potentially get the get the north but you know, it looks like Detroit's got a pretty pretty good hold and kibosh on on that Outside looking in, you know, green Green Bay still got a shot. They're gonna have a tough matchup You know, if they can go in and beat Detroit on Thanksgiving, you know that that puts them at five and six That definitely gets them in the race The problem is that they'll and then have to face the Chiefs one week later. It isn't at Lambo So we'll see what Jordan Love has, you know up his sleeve I think, you know The teams in the wildcard picture right now are just so good, you know, you're looking at Dallas You're looking at Seattle with Minnesota even with Dobbs. It feels great. The one team and we can talk about this later Who I think has a shot of making the playoffs who's not currently in are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers They play in the NFC South, which is an absolute, you know, joke of a division like I'm not trusting Saints, you know, and the Saints are sitting at five and five right now and they're kind of buried in the mix because they're winning that division, but you know Tampa Bay They they loot they've lost like respectable games. Jim They lost the 49ers like lost to Houston lost the Buffalo Atlanta was a close game for them in that division like lost to Detroit in this, you know, whatever they are on right now one in five Streak, but then, you know, you're looking at Indie you're looking at Carolina You're looking at Atlanta like they do have to play in at Lambo But the end in Jacksonville is the only like playoff team or I'm sorry Jacksonville, New Orleans are the only two playoff teams That they have to play they get Carolina twice, you know on the second half of this of this run here And so I think that you know plus four ten to win the NFC South like got some merit to that in my future bets Like let's just say it. Let's just call it what it is And you know when I look at it It's like yeah, they have a pretty well coached defense like bakers Baker, but you know, they have explosive weapons on offense We have seen them but be able to put up points and this division is one where like you can't tell me that you know They're the Saints are four odds better than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at this point in time to get there like yes, they do have talent We don't even know like what the quarterback situation is they can't trust car is switching them in and out The defense is not the defense that we want to do and so that that's the one that really has my my eye on As we look at futures. Yeah, if I look at my 2023 only numbers So ignoring priors which priors are still in there for the actual model But just looking at them hypothetically for just this year New Orleans is currently 14th my power rankings, which is the highest ranked NFC South team But 15th is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers one spot behind them And as you mentioned New Orleans is minus one 30 to win the NFC South whereas Tampa Bay is plus 410 Atlanta is 24th and Carolina is dead freakin last So I do think it's kind of those two teams that are like the most legitimate teams in this division Whether it's Heinecke or Ritter. I don't really care too much about with the Falcons I think they're just kind of like that past defense is pretty flawed They've been inefficient early downs whether be passing or rushing so I Don't really view them as being a super legitimate threat to win this division and I think the Saints beat them this week I've got that coming up later on as well So I agree that bucks are at least worth digging into because they've been efficient passing via Baker Mayfield That defense is flawed for sure and they've got a lot of injuries. They're secondary right now, but they can do some stuff So I don't hate that at all. I think that's a very interesting shout out for you Ryan With the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at plus 410 to potentially make a run at the NFC South Let's take a look at the MVP market because after last night's game Jalen Hurts is now the favorite and fan dual sports book He is plus 250 Lamar Jackson plus 420 Patrick Mahomes plus 460 to a tongue of Iloa is five to one Any value for you right? Anybody you're looking to buy into at this juncture? Yeah, the deck press Scott would have been interesting to me had the Eagles lost Because I think that would have still put them in the mix to you know, potentially when the East which would have been really interesting there Still still thinking about Brock Purdy at 15 to 1 like I'm looking at the teams who are gonna be you know At the top of their conference when it's all said and done They're like the 49ers like you can't look anywhere, you know in the marketplace without seeing them You know in the in the two or three slot, you know as it relates to NFC futures So, you know in that regard like Brock Purdy has been having some great games like this offense is explosive We know it's a quarterback award. So people look at Christian McCaffrey like don't even bother doing that But Brock Purdy I think has some merit there I also think you know, there is some merit to Pat Mahomes still at 460 like he's he's gonna have to Choose to do it all Kelsey's kind of been having a struggling year But if the chiefs are sitting at that number one seed in the AFC and you know for some reason like Jalen hurts is reeling as of late or you know, the problem with Jalen He's does so much like even the last night's game like the passing wasn't there But look the rushing upside that this guy offers you But I still think you know, there is merit to taking Mahomes Mahomes there And I think you know, they have they have it right right now Like there's no need to get you know, cute in this market at this current juncture like all the other You know quarterback, so we would look to take I just don't think that they set up favorably At this point in time, but you know, I I do think that I do think there is still some value when we can look at 15-1 for some of these guys. Yeah, Purdy is interesting. I don't know like would he deserve it? I don't know but like he's really good and like that offense is playing very well right now They've only had four games this year with all their big four being fully healthy and Purdy has been phenomenal in those games And again, it could it could very much be the system But like he's operating the system at a hyper efficient clip and it's one of the best off It's the the best offensive football by a wide margin in my model so I you know Would I vote for him over Lamar Jackson Jalen Hurts? No, but like I'm not a voter So who cares what I think and I think that there's leads a path for Purdy to make some noise there So I agree with you that like it may sound weird to think that Purdy's in play for that kind of market But I don't disagree with you. I think that he's at least interesting at 15 to 1 not betting it myself But I think that he is at least interesting at that number any other futures catching your eye before we get to week number 12 Ryan Yeah, I was I was on that Tampa one, but I kind of you know I got I jumped the gun on that one, but I really did love that I am looking at the offensive player Of the year market, you know, this has been one that's been littered with wide receivers, you know over the past couple of years Since 2019 I thought I would have to sneeze Nope Is it one of those where you caught it and now it's going to be stuck in your your brain Your like nose for the rest of eternity. Yeah, it's it's definitely stuck in there. So I'll be It'll come through The one who interests me in this market here If we're looking at wide receivers is cd lamb like he's been so fricking good For for this team and just so good for Dak to to be able to lean on so we're looking at 14 the one there One there is it looks good, you know, a j brown had the streak of 125 yard games Didn't come to fruition last night Christian mccaffrey even then, you know, definitely some merit there like Tyree kill He leaves the game on sunday Is able to come back. He's just been the freaking monster on pace to break the wide receiver Receiving records. So that it probably is his to lose But if we can get cd lamb in the mix here and thinking about the touchdown market, right? I think I think 14 to 1 could be good for him And cd lamb about to play one of the biggest Most watch games of the entire year as he is every year on Thanksgiving a lot of eyes on that and back at home Facing a pretty leaky Washington defense That's a spotlight game for a guy like him to potentially make some noise for an award like this So if you want to bet cd lamb if you think that there's value in 14 to 1 That's one he'd probably want to bet before Thanksgiving because of it being a major inflection point for teams like the cowboys in the award markets That's what we got for ryan for today ryan one. Thank you That's always a swinging by breaking down your thoughts on the futures market. Enjoy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family We'll talk to you once again next week Yeah, happy things given to you as well gym and to everybody out there who's listening thankful to all the Covering the spread fans that we have so uh, it should be a fun week Can't wait to chop it up with you next week and uh, stay safe and have a happy holiday All those fans thankful for you as well ryan That is ryan williams check him out on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w We'll have him back with us next week on monday to break down bears and vikings Which should be a pretty fun game to talk about later on We're diving to what my number say about week number 12 here in just one second at first score early This nfl season with fandwall america's number one sports book right now new customers get $150 in bonus bets with any winning five dollar money line bet That's 150 bucks if your team wins if you've been thinking about joining fandwall There is no better time to get in on the action. 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So it did it is Noteworthy that it's minus 118 that is definitely have to be priced to pay But I think it is worth it with the way things stack up right now So I'll take these seahawks and the 49ers over 42 and a half at minus 118 If you want some more thoughts on the Thanksgiving games again prime time Tom with Tom Vecchio back with you later on this week tomorrow to break down some of your player props across the Thanksgiving games Let's talk now about the other games where I'm showing value for this week beginning With a big divisional matchup between the jags and the texans and this one could basically decide Who wins the asc south and I like the texans money line once again at minus 102 the 11th consecutive game My model has shown value in the texans money line It's wild and I adore it. Uh, the texans Have made that look pretty good so far. They're six and four this year So they've won more games than they've lost and As far as the the model goes they've actually come through the money line four times when they were at plus money Their minus 102 against the jags, uh, you can potentially find a better number elsewhere So as always do shop around but I think even the minus 102 does sell this Houston offense a bit short I've bumped up the jags in my model to account for the fact that They struggled quite a bit without zade jones, but zade jones came back last week and finally They showed some life against the titans and now they're facing the texans who Do not have the world's best past defense. So they should be pretty efficient once again But even with that I've got the texans favored by 1.9 at home, which does imply there is value in them at minus 102 on the money line CJ strad threw three picks against arizona. That's obviously a bummer and a lot of those were high leverage But even with that they still covered in that game at minus four and a half and open Um, they won by five. So they'd still covered despite the fact They had some bad turnover luck in that game Texans still rank fourth the number fire schedule adjusted passing efficiency Their tenth and overall offense and the ground game has been more efficient of late with denin singletary out there instead of danien pierce and I don't care a ton about that But it does mean it's less of a detriment when they decide to run the ball in early downs as opposed to pass it So I think that's a positive for a team that can skew a bit more run heavy than you would like I respect the jags a lot I think that they're better than they played so far this year I think they're a good offense and the team that I want to bet on at some point this year But I don't think this is the week. I agree with the model here that the texans are still undervalued So minus one or two on the texans money line Very okay with taking that personally and riding with the texans once again We'll see if they can get to seven and four and take control of the asc south in this game Other money line I like for this week is going to be in a another big divisional matchup trying to settle the nc south I like the saints They are minus one or two on the money line a fan dual sportsbook And I think that's a good value as they take on the falcons reports on monday where that Derek car Had yet to conclear con con concussion protocol now I'm not sure how this works in bi weeks, but Typically you you have to practice in order to clear protocol So I don't think it's a surprise that the car has not cleared it yet So still plenty of time for me to get clear I would downgrade the passing efficiency for this offense if they were to not have car But I think you should be able to get clear by sunday The team is likely to be without both michael thomas and marshaugh latimore But even when you account for those injuries, my model is the saints there by 1.7 in this game They're the 14th ranked team by my model when you ignore a prior versus the falcons who are in 24th As we discussed with ryan and the prior also does favor the saints So they get even a bit better once you factor in the prior which I do still do Entering week number 12 the saints defense is also benefited from An easy schedule so you get to knock them down But even when you account for their schedule They have the second ranked late down success rate allowed on defense showing just the cleven browns that defense says Had its flaws for sure and they face an easy schedule But they have been pretty good even when you make those adjustments, especially on late downs It's important because the falcons are probably going to be playing in a lot of late downs They're really down efficiency both on the ground and via the air Has been pretty poor this year, especially once you ding them for the easiest schedule they faced I think we could see this number move against me if we get bad news on dara car, but i'm willing to risk that personally Given there is a pretty big gap between what my model has and what the market has So I will take the saints minus 102 in atlanta taking on the falcons for this week in that big nc south showdown Final bet I like for this week is when we alluded to when talking to ryan That is the bills at the eagles right now The bills plus three and a half is minus 115 if and will sportsbook and I do show value In that number right now now for me when i'm looking at eagles games I want to focus more on my newer model than my older model now typically my older model has performed better because I think it has a pretty good concept behind it. It waits up passing efficiency and It's performed better than my newer model as a result, which is why typically I lean more on the older model the newer model though I think is better with the eagles because it doesn't weigh up passing efficiency as much and the eagles Are not going to grade out as well when you factor in passing efficiency more because they're not the world's most efficient passing Offense as we saw with all the sacks last night. They made plays when they had to but they're not a super efficient passing offense So I want to lean more on the model that I think grades the eagles more fairly It takes a more holistic approach and that one actually has the eagles here by 1.9 in this game It's still favored but not by as much as you would think when the spread is three and a half That model has these two teams nearly identical on a neutral field bills fourth and his power rankings eagles are fifth So slight lean toward the bills there are the eagles I think should be able to move the football here against this bill's rush defense Which is not great, but I would say that it's also a unit that has been better than you would think When or if we look since then that Milano injury, I thought they'd be really bad But they've actually been pretty okay in that time As of the bill's offense They rank second in the league and adjusted late down success rates and third and adjusted early down epa based on my numbers They're adjusted early down passing numbers in week one or week 11. I should say the first game with no kendo We're actually the best they've been this week for against the dolphins that does not justify firing Can dorsi by any means but it does mean that they played well in that game They responded well to the change at oc eagles find ways to get the job done Which is why I'm going with the spread here versus the money line. It's not a bet that makes me comfortable I do not like betting against Philadelphia because typically it doesn't go well But I do still think the bills are a team worth buying into Given how efficient they've been Given they did play pretty well in their first game without kendo orcy I think they're a team we can feel good about still so I do like the bills plus three and a half at minus 115 At fan dual sports, but so the four bets I like for week number 12 bills plus three and a half minus 115 I like the saints at minus 102 against the falcons the texans minus 102 against the jaguars and then over In the seahawks 49ers 42 and a half Which is minus 118 at fan dual sports book Before we close up shop for today do got to go back through recommendations last week here on the show an overall pretty good week for the show If you take into consideration all recommendations let's begin things off with dr Ed fang you can find him on twitter at the power right check out his work at the power right dot com Ed is with us in the college football and nfl shows college side of things only one bet recommendation from ed That was jj mccarthy to go under 230 and a half passing yards from michigan in their game What they were taking on I believe that was maryland and mccarthy did go easily under this number That was minus 114 mccarthy finished just 141 passing yards in that game They did get the win so kudos michigan for that but Pretty easy under for ed on mccarthy on the nfl side of things ed liked lamar jackson on thursday night under To not throw a pick basically that was minus 114 And that was a winner lamar two touchdowns no picks in that game So went from that there and then he had the chief's minus two and a half against the eagles Of course, uh, the eagles did get the job done last night So two and three or two and one week for ed good calls by him We'll have him back on the show tomorrow to talk about both college football and the nfl jj jackson recent was our guest here on the show You can find jj on twitter at late round qb find his work at late round com another profitable week for jj once again Thanks in large part to dj more jj had a dj more plus 180 four in any time touchdown more Had a long touchdown from justin fields in that game as the bearers made a push to win that one couldn't quite get The job done but didn't matter for jj. They did hit the dj more plus 180 So that was a win there other win was brice hall over 27 and a half receiving yards of minus 114 Hall had about 50 a couple long plays for him including a touchdown So a win there for jj two losses were tray mcbride over 55 and a half receiving yards minus 114 He had 43 yards and then chris godwin at three to one for an anytime touchdown He didn't get the job done there either but good week for jj profit week once again touchdown That's where jj have been insane so far this year So please make sure to follow jj on twitter at late round qb Not on the show that speak because of thanksgiving but happy to get jj back on with us next week to get some more winners Out in the ether we had ryan limbs on last night talk about monday night football between the chiefs and the eagles find ryan on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w tough one here because Wasn't quite as much offense. We thought there'd be Going into that game recommendations for ryan where chiefs minus two and a half Of course eagles won that game outright He liked kelsey in the alternate market for 100 plus receiving yards at plus 198 and kelsey Had a weird night. I had that fumble had a drop Pretty in a pretty key situation. So finished with around I think 41 receiving yards So not quite to the 100 plus receiving yards here at plus 198 Did get a win on divante smith ryan had him over 60 and a half receiving yards and smith went well over that number Via a long a long reception near touchdown Would have liked the touchdown because ryan did have divante smith plus 230 for an anytime touchdown couldn't quite get that one But did get the over on these 60 and a half receiving yards ryan liked aj brown over six and a half receptions minus 102 brown locked down by the cheese defense So kudos to them there couldn't quite get that one had kenneth gainwell six to one for an anytime touchdown Deandre swift got the one non-hertz rushing touchdown for the eagles in this game So couldn't get gain well there final one was my home's three plus passing touchdowns at two to one My homes did get two so came somewhat close It would have had it if not for the markweb's valve a scantling drop that also would have gotten ryan likely the cover in that game So pretty tough drop there as it did swing a couple things against ryan, but We'll get ryan back with us next week talk bears and vikings. It should be a fun one up in minneapolis Finally, we had my stuff from last week in a one of the better weeks I've had so far this year three in one of the nfl side of things I had the texas minus four and a half against the cardinals that closed the five and a half But uh, so it was not a win at the closing number, but was a win we discussed it on tuesday So uh texas minus four and a half was a winner also the bills minus six and a half against the jets That moved to seven and closed there and then the bills did win pretty comfortably by 26 points in that game One lost me with the bucks and 49ers over 41 and a half it's kind of how it goes when you have When you're betting a spread or betting an over on a Game that has a large spread where you can see things late in games where the teams for go field goals go for touchdown That's what happened here Almost got a touchdown with the bucks late in that game couldn't quite get there. So loss on that one It's how it goes for sure and then other total was the ryan seahawks under 46 in that game I think had 30 during a 33 total points easy win there So three and one week in the nfl side of things bigger profits though came for f1 talked about los vegas The los vegas grown pre on the show on wednesday four recommendations One of those was a max for stab and win at minus 250 I mean that's you expect that to win so can't really pat myself on the back there But max for stab and did win that race, but the big one though was lan stroll 16 to 1 to finish top six now stroll had a big issue in qualifying and started this race back in 19 But he started to start the race On soft tires and there were a couple spins in the first lap and stroll made up like nine spots on the first lap Side to pit Get out of sequence and that wound up being the right strategy with the way that the safety cars broke And stroll went on finishing fifth. Uh, so a win there at 16 to 1 for lan stroll Been pretty high in astin martin recently and I would not be shocked if i'm high on them once again This week as they finished out the year other two recommendations were daniel ricardo plus 220 for his top 10 And pierre ghastly plus 160 for a top 10 ghastly qualified fourth or started fourth after a grid penalty for carlo signs but He didn't pit under a safety car The second safety car probably should have because his tires fell off pretty bad and he finished 11th But got close there kind of wish he had taken a different approach his teammate finished for that's about okon So I feel like I probably should have gotten that one But didn't quite get there and ricardo did not finish top 10 either a plus 220 But the stroll 16 to 1 1 felt very good for a top 6 overall very good week felt good about things and Happy with how the results broke for me this past week That is all that we have here for today on covering the spread big Thank you once again to ryan williams swinging by breaking down his thoughts on nfl futures market fine ryan on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w tomorrow couple shows We're gonna have dr. 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