 I love the premise of the show Smart people talking about dumb shit. I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit Oh, we go where we're not supposed to go baby Yep, show the main to God Andrew show. We are the brilliant idiots podcast back for another week of brilliant idiot miss Show thank you. Well, first of all, how was your week? My week was good. How was yours week? It was amazing. I've had an amazing week thus far. How does it feel to have a show out? It feels good man, you know, thank you for doing the show last week We had a lot of technical difficulties that were out of our control. I saw you tweet about that Yeah, it was just like a sex transfer stuff, you know, you're doing a show live the tape so when they transfer stuff to Wherever they're transferring it so it can get the air so it kind of like had a lot of glitches in it But you know, they fixed it and it's up on Paramount Plus for screaming But you know, it was a great first show man I think people really like the the panel format. Yeah, you know They like seeing us all up there. Just Talking shit. Yeah That's all all of these platforms are yeah, it's just the people you enjoy talking shit Yeah, okay, some of it's smart some of it's dumb some of it's about nothing But guess what it helps us all get through our days. That's smart should be boring That's my biggest issue with smart things It's about how you do it. It's about putting the medicine in the candy. God damn you watch mar, right? Nah, you don't like Bill Maher, you know, he's fine. He's a comedian. So it's like his lens I think roguin is smart fun shit. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's just about the presentation. Yeah Yeah, I know I know mark mar has like some some interesting space and I think that you can do something Okay, and I told you this before the park is the trickiest thing with you is gonna be on your show is When guests talk, they're gonna be less interesting than you and less funny than you and I mean And and and I actually really liked the guests like that girl Liz Coleman's brilliant Coleman was great. Yes. So like but at the same time like I hear them talking and I'm like Oh, Charlemagne would be funny or saying these things. Yeah. So that's gonna be the tricky part is how do I get enough Charlemagne? And And have some of these guests. It's just a conversation. I think it works I mean listen, did they cut that whole segment out where we were calling this a glizzy gobbler? No, they kept that. That's it. They kept that in They just cut out the peep Buddha judge That was a cool line, I didn't think it was anything wrong with it We said something with the Buddha judge and then somebody was talking about weddings and you were saying that I was like Well, who pays the wedding in a gay marriage? Yeah, you said the bottom Obviously, and so Liz used to work for Secretary peep Buddha judge. Yeah transportation. Yeah, I said well The secretary So I said who paid at Pete's wedding and she was like, I'm not touching that with a ten-foot ball. I was like, I know who You know, I thought that was a cool joke, but what happened? Yeah, they thought it might come off homophobic Why is that homophobic? I don't know. I feel like we all are just joking on each other in good-natured fun But isn't it more homophobic to assume he can't take no dick? I thought you're about to say take a joke. No, no, I'm just saying like You know what I'm saying? Like it's a ten-foot pole. I'm saying like, you know, you can handle dangling, bro. Like You know, we're just born that's a prop. You give them props. Yeah, you size can't man I feel like jokes are what bring everybody together. Yeah, if we can't joke on each other We're really not creating community. That's the things that bring community together food Um tragedy. Yeah, right. Yeah in humor. Yes It's like that we got to be able to laugh and joke at each other. I'm not doing anything Like that's like stepping on you. I'm giving you props. That's it And yo, you can get these jokes too. Nobody's above jokes. Nobody's above jokes That is one thing that happens. I see a lot like there's certain communities, especially like Like black the black community is always okay to joke on right from these same people who will push back about LGBTQ community you know, um Other communities that I won't even say Well, no, seriously the jeweler's community the asian community Like there'll be everybody sensitive when it comes to jokes about them But yeah, it's like certain community you can you can clown pole white people all day long Yes, you could clown uh black people all day long, but it's just certain communities like I don't think we should do that I'm like, we don't write the jokes for nobody else then. Yeah, that's how I feel Yeah, I'm gonna give it to everybody. You got to give it to everybody. You got to give it everybody equal opportunity Yeah, I I agree and I yeah, I feel like if it's clearly a joke, you got way more uh wiggle room Yes, if it's a joke, that's good intentioned. Yeah, you know, I'm saying I'm not going to joke about like your trauma Yeah, I'm not going to joke about any like struggle went through your impression I mean we we did uh, we did a pod yesterday with louis ekay, and he's a wild motherfucker, bro Louie did flagrant. Yeah. Yeah Look at this. Look at the opening of the podcast. I just Oh Louie did flagrant. Yeah, we had louie and we had joe liston because they got a movie coming out And I thought it was rdo. It's out, but they're gonna release it also for sale. This is his opening line if you this guy's crazy I trust a do you base is doing a great job at what it does I'm not saying it should be doing it like 9 11 You had to end the sorrow and the anger and the rage and the sadness you had to go do fucking bull's eye Oh I'm interested to listen to that interview But not for any of that shit I'm interested to listen because I would love to see what louie thinks about you and your business model because louie He started I That's why I wanted him on specifically like with this episode because we just finished selling infamous I just want to give him his props because he's the reason why I was able to do this, you know He started he's the innovator. Wow. Yeah All right, we shout out to louie with a good did he come out? Yeah, it's out today, man He's just wow, bro. He goes for it. And he's a joke. This is what we do. We like defend the craziest thing, bro But he said bull's eye, bro. Oh my god Jesus christ, I gotta listen to that one. Yeah, man people but it feels good. It feels good to be back making tv If I like creating content man, yeah, yeah The the the biggest part is like It's it's pressure in television. Yeah, the reason it's pressure in television because television is like still so structured Yeah, you know what I mean like I don't know I come in here and it's just loose You know I'm saying breakfast club has a structure too, but it's still looser. Yeah, you know what I mean um And then everything else I do is just like, you know e p and stuff and I just like watching people create It's just yeah, I like I like I like doing I like doing television. I actually love doing television, but it's just It's a it's a it's a good, um What's the word I'm looking for it's just it's interesting trying to figure out how to still be loose within that Yes, it was in the more like rigid structure. Yeah, and I think that just takes time Yeah, and I think a lot of it has to do with the uh fact that it's a 22 minute show On tv like if it's like mar with mar you just got an hour Yeah, like mar got an hour no commercial so mar is literally doing a podcast Yeah, it feels Yo, and maybe that's why maybe you need a little bit more time So you could stretch out ideas like say boring things because I felt that a little bit too it was just like shells were going to you and It was like, yeah, you got to have some hot shit right there in a moment It's not like this where we're like we could figure it out get there and then all of a sudden We touch on some gold and then we just mind that shit for a minute So maybe more time helps that And I mean don't get me wrong mar's got a structure too. Yeah, but it's still a structure that's Relatively like you could just feel it feel the looseness Of it because then even in my mind like, you know when you up there doing tv you like I don't want to I don't want to say holding back because that's not the right word But you like I don't want to say this shit if it's going to get edited But it's just like the pod right like you got to just shoot you got to just Like yeah, there's things that we edit out the pod, but you just got to get it out You just got to let them worry about it because it could also like that's right Create an environment of the room where everybody's more comfortable for these jokes. That's right I like I feel that all the time like sometimes just like throw the thing out there that you know is going to be cut But it sets a pressure loosens the room everybody unclenches their butt cheeks They know what the ride is going to be like. Yes, you know, so yes Thank you to everybody that tuned in every Thursday night after the daily show 11 30 hell of a week Um, did you see will Smith's apology that guy's a broken man, bro? That's a broken man. I spent the last three months replaying and Understanding the nuances and and the complexities of what happened in in that moment and I'm not going to try to unpack all of that right now, but I can say to All of you there is no part of me That thinks that was the right way to behave In that moment. I can do an imitation I can do that easily I have thoughts about this moment For some time now It has been three months of me reflecting Maybe my impressions aren't that good. You know what's so interesting about what you said you use the right word Which is broken. Yeah, and it's just like I don't think anybody You don't you don't have to allow anybody access to your trauma if you don't want to now The reason this is necessary is because he he he Disrespected chris publicly. Yeah, so it's cool to see this apology You know publicly and cool to see it feeling the wtf. I thought that was a cool. That's what that is. No Sell out Sighted with will over comics sell out out will the fuck media Here's the thing. I didn't need this um But I I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm glad he did it. I don't believe it See that's the thing. No, that's it is so fake. Why celebrities can't win for losing, bro You can't where's the charm? He has no charm left Isn't that to be charming buddy's hurt now it's time to be charming He was charming when aliens was attacking America. You can't be charming right now This guy's been charming every single time in history. It's not acting You know the illest thing that he said and it's the bar and it's what he said. Um, I'm trying to Feel remorse without being ashamed God damn that was a bar be ashamed Does he need to be ashamed? Yes. I don't think none of us are our worst moments though Like should we be ashamed about the worst thing we've ever done? Yes, really? Yeah, you could be ashamed You did something bad. You're ashamed It's fine. Shame is good. I think you could be ashamed, but don't shit on yourself shit on yourself Shit on yourself, you don't want to stop believing you are What you did like you'd be like He's not that moment though. No, he's not come on. He's no. He's not that moment He's he's like the weak bitch that allowed that moment to happen He's a hoe, bro. Okay. Do you know what I'm saying? Like that same energy when big willy style roll up on you Well, I know We could get jiggy with it if you want well, I'm totally fine with it You ask permission for your wife if you're allowed to come talk to me and then we can get This has permission for your life, bro. It's fine We could tussle our celebrity box. Will Smith. There you go. Whoa, I was celebrity box. Will Smith 100% Why why you want a box? Will Smith because he broke my heart Bring it down. This my hero, man. Jesus Christ. You're doing that on purpose because you know that he don't like letting people down. He broke my heart, bro. No, this is my hero grown up. He had nobody cooler than Will Smith. Will Smith saved America, bro. Why is he still not cool now, though? Look at him, bro. He's dressed like me. Do you know what I'm saying? This guy's a loser dressing like me wearing a hat with his logo on it. You couldn't find a Nike hat or some shit dog. It had to be your fucking logo. Yo, Jaden gonna fuck you up when he see you, bro. What Jaden really going to do? The karate kid. He know martial arts, bro. Hey, listen. Who do you guys take an L to? Jaden or Will. The Smith family about to get two Ls this year now. Let me tell you something. Let's go. Come on. I'll fight Jaden too. Here's the thing. I didn't need the apology, like I said, because I don't think nobody needs access to your trauma. But, you know, he did what he did publicly. So I guess he got to apologize publicly. But yeah, it's something about this that is just like, oh. Now people are learning from it. I'm sure people are inspired by this because his willingness to heal. What is this? In front of people? Heal and all these big fucking therapy words. It's like, bro, you fucked up. Okay. But that's how we learned. You're married to a witch. Jesus Christ. She has sucked the soul out of your body. You have almost no humanity left. You're going through a crisis. You don't want your wife to suck your soul out of your body. Your soul out of your body? Probably why you married him. Coming from a married man. There's nothing I'd like more to be honest with you. Sucks something out. Come on now, please. Please, God. Oh, man. But yes. You have no respect for this apology. None. He felt more remorseful about losing his relationship with Tony Rock. Then he did apologize. Man, shut up. Did you see what he said about Tony? He apologized to Tony because Tony was visibly mad. Tony went on stage. It was like, don't put hands on him. He was upset. And I think apologizing to his mother was very powerful, too. Because his mother, that's her son. And she felt the way. You know what I mean? Bro, he don't have zero empathy. Looking at his apology, it was like, I am forced to do this. By who, though? I don't know. That's what I wanted to know. Here's the thing, will don't have to apologize. Because in a lot of ways, will clean. I would respect Will Moore if he didn't apologize. I would respect, honestly, I would respect Will Moore if he didn't fake apologize. And he was just like, yo, I'm not like y'all. I'm not a comedian. I'm from Philly. Don't talk about my wife. I let you get away with it once. You tried to do it again. That's it. And then you don't get invited to no more award shows. But at least people will go, he has a code. Him going, I was a weak, fragile individual. I couldn't control my emotions. Here's me dressed as Tiger Woods. This is how I am. This pathetic, bro. What if he did, what if he feels like this for real? Double down, bro. What would Trump do? Do what Trump would do. What would Trump do? Trump would bury his wife on a goddamn golf course with the weakest of tombstones I've ever seen in my motherfucking life. You know, thinking about golf balls hitting her grave for divorcing him and taking money for the rest of eternity. This motherfucker is the ghost, son. That is wild. I'm like, I don't care what nobody said. That was not her idea. Not at all, bro. She probably used to complain about him being on the golf course. All the time. All right, watch this. Join me. The funniest shit. I saw somebody say on Twitter, like, relax, relax. It's going to look really good once they put the little windmill shit around it. Because you know how I do when you go to these golf places? I was like, man, what the fuck? But I was like, if he did that, that would be fire. And we respect him more. Will is doing the opposite thing. He's like, how can I get everybody to love me and respect me? We don't respect that shit, bro. I don't think that's what this is. I double down. I think Will, and he said it. Distract on Chris. No, man. Right, distract. I think he has a desire for everybody to love him, which is very unrealistic. And I mean, neither one of us, God knows, neither one of us will never know how it feels to be the good guy, the guy that people love. But you know what I'm saying? Like, Will has been the lovable guy since day one. He's never been a hero. He's my hero. Ever. He's my hero. He's my hero. He was the coolest person on the planet to me. I thought he was cool. But I mean, I always thought Will was cool. I like Will. I've grown to love Will. I've always called myself a pinkest midfielder if he knows Carter, but I've actually really grown to love Will in this phase of his life, being the Willy Lama. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? No, I just think that when you were the cool charismatic guy, we were Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Independence Day. I mean, like, fucking the Wild Wild West. Everybody hated it. I love Wild Wild West. Just he was the coolest, funniest, most thoughtful, charismatic, charming, handsome guy. Very hard to keep up that, though, Schultz. Yeah, of course. Very hard to keep up that appearance, man. You know what I'm saying? Because, and it's funny, we had Chance the Rapper on this weekend. I said the same thing to Chance. Yo, man, you seem like the weight of the image you carry is starting to get to you a little bit. Because there's nobody that can be that good guy all the time. You could be a good person, but we all going to have our moments. Yo. We all got shadows. Like, you know what I mean? We all deal with our shadow selves and we all know our shadow selves. There's nobody that's smiling 24-7, bro. Yo, that is a great point that there's a saying that my boy Kareel has that he puts on all of his merch, but his assholes live forever. But the cool thing about being an asshole is the expectations of you are that of an asshole. You can be sweet, but you can also be a jerk. You can actually be a human being. You can be a human in his whole totality. All these motherfuckers that's walking around smiling all the time, oh, goody two shoes. I'm so got the perfect image. That's not real. I care about Jesus. I love Jesus, all that kind of shit. And you can do that and still feel away. What? There's nothing wrong with loving Jesus, but if your image is tied around Christianity, you're going to have the expectations of Christianity. As soon as they hear you curse one time, they say, oh, my God. They see you drinking some liquor. Oh, my God. And it's because we feel judgment by your perfection. If you're this perfect person and you're going out and preaching perfection, now all of a sudden we feel judged. We go, God, damn, well, I ain't perfect fuck, man. And then you fall or stumble a little bit and we go, this motherfucker over here judged me. I've watched Will since that rap radar interview. I've told y'all this before, try to shed the character of Will Smith. And he talks about in his book, he's trying to shed that character. And I'm sure this is not what he wanted to appear. I'm really human. I'm sure this is not what he wanted. This is not what he asked for. But I think sometimes, man, when you're called to serve and your life serves a bigger purpose and people are inspired by you and learn from you, this is sometimes what you got to go through. That's what you got to go through. And guess what? Let's talk about the other side. I'm not mad at Chris for not accepting the apology. Fire. Just because the motherfucker tells you, I'm sorry, you know what I mean? You got to be like, okay. Fire. Sitting there. You got to wear that. I don't got to wear it. Wear it up. I don't even like when people say they be like, well, you know, you don't forgive people for, you know, you forgive people for yourself, not for them. What if you're not ready to forgive? Yeah. Or what if you're forgiven but you still said to yourself, I'm not fucking with dude no more. And what if you have a learning disability where you don't feel anything anyway? So now it's okay. That's right. You just got to sit on that. By the way, that's the other thing. Yeah. Chris, like, I haven't even processed it yet. I haven't even felt it. What? What? So I was just like, you got to sit in that discomfort. You know what I mean? I think Chris felt this one though. You think? Yeah. It was too big. You know why? Because it was too big of a stage. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. That also, but I also think it like disrupted. It probably also helped, but it disrupted the fact that he just, Chris takes like time to craft his standup. And like years. That's right. He crafted this fucking act, painstakingly put it together. And now he's on stage and everybody wants him to talk about another thing. So it's like, I would resent, I would resent that for sure. Now there's probably way more people that are so interested to go see him and they're laughing these jokes and he's going to build up this new piece that is going to be the most anticipated piece of comedy in the last fucking decade. But I'm sure initially it was like, man, fuck, why I got to bring this shit up? Yeah. And that's why like I hate, I saw this week everybody was talking about, you know, Chris Rock's comments. After the apology, like, oh, you know, he talked about Shilk Smith and he said, you know, if anybody that says words hurt never been punched in the face. I'm like, yo, he's been telling this joke all year, guys. The only thing he had it was the Shilk Smith shit. Like I saw the victimhood joke at the garden last week. Oh, really? Yes. He's been so sad. It's a whole thing about victimhood and how everybody wants to play the victim. The only difference I'm assuming now is that he starts off using him. But no, he doesn't even start off using him. He talks about victimhood and then he goes into, look at me for example, and then that's when he does the whole Shilk Smith thing. And it's like literally one line, but everybody's so hungry to hear him talk about the shit, the Will Smith shit. You're taking pieces of his set and writing about him on the internet and writing about him in these publications and it's like, bro, it's a part of his fucking set. Yeah. And that's when he's really smart to like bake that into an existing piece. Yeah. Because it feels as if you wrote the whole piece about it but you didn't. Yeah. You worked that out for months. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. I just, you know, I appreciate, I'm not gonna say I appreciated Will's apology because I just, I didn't, don't think it's necessary. I just think that he's serving a bigger purpose right now and some people will be inspired by that. You know what would help him on being honest with you right now? A breakfast club interview? No. No, no. And listen, I defer to you with this because it's your show, you don't understand how the people react to it. But him actually talking to another human and being around humans and then what's gonna happen, I assume is the charisma that exists within Will when he's around people is gonna come out and it's gonna like, it's gonna go, people are gonna go, oh fuck, I really like this guy. Oh, this guy's, we still like, who'd have been like you? I don't like him right now. That's not true. I don't like him right now. And I don't like him. And that's hard for me. I'm the victim. This has hurt me. I'm just saying like seeing him, you guys bust balls, tell stories and not only is like Willy Lama, this is how you have to live life and the purpose of this and I have to shut the fuck up. Just like talking about vulnerable shit. This was hard. But you just gave him shit for being vulnerable. That wasn't vulnerability. That was canned garbage. Tuna. That was Tuna. Yeah, that was Tuna. Damn. Tuna. Because you don't have to do it. There was no need for that. Nobody asked for that. That's why I think it, that's why for me it was like, I mean, I feel like it was genuine. That's the other thing about celebrity. I believe more if he went on live. I believe more if he went on live. Jada got a whole like cold drink in the background. She just brewing up some shit and he's just going on live, right? And saying exactly what's happening. You wouldn't think that'd be cool. Man, you cannot win if you're a celebrity. You damned if you do damned if you don't. Yeah. People don't want to believe you. No. What celebrity do we believe? Everything seems to be performing. Donald Trump? No way. Come on, bro. I don't believe Trump. You don't believe him, bro? Nah, he's too good. No way. You ain't winging this shit, bro. I'm fucking around. I'm fucking around. I believe it. I saw Marjorie Taylor green quote drink yesterday. What she said? She was like, oh, you talking teams? You talking teams? You didn't see that tweet, bro? No fire though. Bro, pull up Marjorie Taylor. Pull up Google Marjorie Taylor green. Marjorie got some sisters on the team. She was like, oh, you switching sides? And she had a picture with Trump? You didn't see that shit, Chris? Oh, Chris thought. I'm like, yo, these motherfuckers are crazy. I'm out of politics. I don't know anything about politics. But yeah, just to put a button on will. I'm tired of us giving people access to our trauma for no reason. You know what I mean? If you're doing it because it's genuinely helping you heal, cool, but it's like, ah, Lord have mercy. You know what I mean? It can't seem too orchestrated. It can't seem like you're saying lines and shit. That's why I think an interview with somebody, especially you, would be really great. Now see, I agree with that. You mean a one-on-one? I mean, look, I think a one-on-one could be great. I'll be honest with you. I think a one-on-one could be great. I think more people around would make him more comfortable. I get what you're saying. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I get what you're saying. It's like having other people that he can tell jokes to and get feedback from and laugh and creating an environment I get what you're saying. I think could be really fun. And I think could show that fucking side of him. Like, I don't know. The sad part about it is, though, if he does that and people will be like, look, he's not even serious. Look at him laughing. You can't win with your shit. No, no, you always win with humor. You always win with humor. I think so. In my opinion, always with humor. I'm telling you, man, it's hard to be angry at someone who makes you laugh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's genuinely hard to be angry at a human being who makes you laugh. Who? Who? Who? I haven't seen people chuckling at Bill Cosby lately. I laughed at Bill Cosby ever. Huh? I never laughed at Bill Cosby. You in the Cosby show? No. Really? I didn't watch the Cosby show. Come on. You watched the Cosby show. I didn't watch the Cosby show. I'm familiar with it, obviously, but it wasn't like a part of my life. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, to your point. I was so familiar with Black Excellence by then, I didn't need to see it on TV. Like, I was surrounded by Black Excellence. So when I saw it on TV and I was like, oh, just a doctor? Like, what's, you know, whatever. Like, all my doctors have been black. My whole like, Dr. Dre, the other Dr. Dre. Dr. J? Dr. J? Like, I only knew Black Doctors. This guy is so crazy. Dr. Martin Luther King. Like, all the Black people I knew in my life were doctors. So I was like, this is not like a unique thing. Ugh. To your point, Bill, there was no jokes during that whole time. He didn't even try. He did try to do stand-up for a moment, though. He did stand-up. There was one moment that he did choke. Remember, he's walking blind to the courtroom. And then some of it. In that moment, you're like, man, he ain't do none of that. Right? Like, in that moment for a second, when he made you laugh, you're like, he ain't do none of that. Man, there is something to that. There is something to keeping people distracted with humor or great music. You know what I mean? It's really make them feel. You make them feel something. Make them feel something other than what they would be feeling if all they heard about was the bullshit. Exactly. I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. What else we got, Taylor? Wiz Khalifa. Did you see Wiz Khalifa going off on that DJ? Yo, tell me what happened. Because I saw, I think it was Act Post about this. Yeah, I was told that. Also, there's like a Nicki Minaj thing, like with her assistant or something? First of all, I can't believe anybody believed that bullshit. Oh, what was it? First of all, this is what scares me about the internet. It's been scaring me about the internet for the past seven, eight years. I told you all this shit before. The fact that anybody can get online and say something. And if it's entertaining, motherfuckers will run with it. Nobody cares about the truth from the lies when entertaining. You know how I know that whole Nicki Minaj shit was a lie? One. When she said that Nicki Minaj owed $170 plus million in taxes over six years. Y'all don't know the IRS. IRS ain't letting you get no $170 million tax bill. That's right. What the fuck are you talking about? They'll be repossessing everything from Nicki. They can be on Instagram ballhead. They'll take her wig. I'm serious. They would take everything from her. She would have nothing if she owed $100. $176 million in taxes. Yeah, that's crazy. I need y'all to go look at what people went to jail for in regard to taxes. $5 million, $6 million, $7 million. Ain't that letting you get to know $176 million over six years? Are you crazy? Are you fucking dumb? What Nicki said in this video when she was like, every day I get online and I realized more and more how dumb people are. Y'all getting dumber and dumber. My God. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Do you know how much $176 million in taxes is? Yeah. Yeah, that much. Yeah. You know how much you would have to make? Yeah, you got to make double, bro. Probably triple to owe that? Oh, to owe meaning you didn't pay it. And you think that she would just be out here. We never heard about Nicki having no IRS. Since when has the IRS been quiet? Oh, I didn't know that's what it was about. That's where it started. And then after that, I didn't even want to read because I'm like, all of this is bullshit. Got you. $176 million in taxes. Yes, a lot. Wiz Khalifa? Yes. What I was told was that Wiz went off on the DJ because Wiz got a new album out. And he was telling the DJs to play his new music. Mind you, this is just hearsay for them. And DJ Envy told me this. He said it on the air this morning. Wiz was telling them to play his new music. They kept playing old shit. And then when they started playing the new shit, they kept playing the records on top of each other. And so Wiz got upset because he didn't want his music presented in that way. And what I like about this is the fact that you see like the whole DJ community rallying around these DJs saying like, Wiz, if you would have did that to me, we'd have been fighting in all types of shit, right? Uh-huh. That's what I want to see because I want to know what DJ thinks they can beat Wiz Khalifa. Yeah, Wiz got hands feet. He's in shape. I want to see. No disrespect to the DJs, but you know, y'all are not the most in shape people. Yeah. I want to see. I just want to see. I want to see what would happen if, if Wiz did this. Plus, we talk about the benefit of the doubt, right? We don't, we've never seen Wiz act like this. Yeah. So you got to give him the benefit of the doubt, right? Uncharacteristic of him. Yeah, this is not. He's so professional. Every time I met him, he's so professional. You wouldn't reduce him to his worst moment, right? No. Okay. Well, is it more entertaining for the podcast listeners? In that case, I would. Whatever, whatever keeps the good people at home entertained. Okay. Exactly. I got you. So let's do a quick calculation. Okay. And then carry on in that way. Do we have audio of him yelling at the DJ? That's always fun to watch. Let's insert that. Taylor, please. But to, to, to defend him. Every time I've interacted with him, and that's only been a couple of times, he's been incredibly professional. Yeah. Wiz is a good dude. That's what I'm saying. But when I see people like Wiz or Will do things like this and we know that's not their character, you got to give them the benefit. Yeah. But don't, don't compare those two. It's kind of the same thing. Is it? I mean. They're physical acts of violence. That's my point. Like Wiz threatened to do it. And it was a lot of talk. And Salute the Wiz, but it was a lot of talking. Will ain't do no talking. Do we have audio? I need to see. Are you saying that Wiz is cap? Like he's actually not. I ain't saying he cap. I'm just saying like, let's hear it, Taylor. Come on, Taylor. Big Taylor. Back it up, Tay. Back it up, Tay. Oh, that's kind of corny, bro. Oh, son of like that. Yeah, that's corny. Oh, you knocked his hand off? I didn't know he was that album. Yeah, me neither. I think that's probably why he's frustrated. Hold on one second. That's Trap's song? Weird ass bitches. Weird ass bitches. That's not Trap's song? All right, that's enough. So we don't know what happened in him in his day. And yes, we shouldn't reduce you to your worst moment. Obviously, I would imagine that he's remorseful of like treating another person like that and embarrassing them publicly. You know, he's in a position of power. Where's the apology? Absolutely. Where you double fucking down. Where's the fuck media? All right. And motherfucking give us your apology. Yo, we need that. Are we over apologies? Double down, bro. I don't believe in apologizing. It's a big issue in my marriage. Never? No, no, I actually apologize quite a lot in my marriage. But outside of that, I don't believe in apologizing for what people think you did. I only believe in apologizing for what you believe. I'm with that. I said that on the radio this one. I'm like, yo, I'm not clearing up shit. You know what I mean? Like you got to let people just believe what they want to believe. Think what they want to think. If I unintentionally offended you, I apologize. You know what I mean? But it's just like, yo, people are bowing down for no reason. Like I'm looking at this shit with Beyonce. Y'all got Beyonce changing words in her songs now. And you know what I just realized today? This is people over in the UK. What did she say? Spaz! The same shit Lizzo said. What is a spaz? She said spaz. Spaz it out in the song. We spaz and we spaz and she used it in this proper context. And this is what bothers me about that spaz word. What's wrong with spaz? Chris, come here. Chris said ablest. I never knew spaz was a slur until I saw people complaining about it towards Lizzo. But here's also the thing. Spaz is a word. So it's easy to go after Beyonce. It's easy to go after Lizzo. Go after Webster's, bro. Go after that fucking dictionary. Make them fucking take the word out of the dictionary. So wait, you're saying- Go after the sources. If a word is in the dictionary, then everybody should be able to say it? No. What I'm saying is words matter. And I'm glad you said that because some idiot said to me, look at spaz like the n-word. If people use n-word in this proper context, the proper context of the n-word is racism. Dummy. We turned it into a slang term for endearment. What is spaz? I don't understand that. I'm going to ask Webster's. Let's ask Webster's. Oh, my song? What's my song? My song? Uncle Joe made my dress. Spaz means to lose physical or emotional control. He offered a post-game assessment. I spazed out real bad. That's what spaz means. Spaz also means to move in an awkward or clumsy way. Are she spazed out? We had broken glass all over the floor. Spaz in the urban dictionary means either a male or female who can be overdramatic, moody, weird, quirky, flamboyant, annoying, suggestive, passionate, passive, aggressive. Alex just sent one, but of course Alex sent the slang term. And American slang, the term spaz is evolved from a derogatory description of people with disabilities, which I never knew it was. Did you ever know that? No, I thought it was just a person acting a little wacky. Listen, what we used to call people with disabilities, they also banned that word too. And then we stopped using that word because they say that was offensive, even though that is also in the dictionary as well. Did we stop using that? What? Publicly? Well, what are we supposed to call retards? Here's the thing, we never actually call people who have disabilities there. Oh, I'm not talking about them. Yeah. It would be horrible to call someone who actually was retarded, retarded. Never. That's the whole point. That's the point. Exactly, but if you are not retarded and you're acting weird, that's the perfect word. That's enough. You know. Hey, what do we know? Same with spaz. No, it's not the same with spaz. Spaz is not bad. Spaz is generally understood as a casual word for clumsiness. Yeah. You know, sometimes associated with over-excitability. Yeah, when I spaz on the mic. I spaz on the mic. You know what I mean? When I come through these podcasts, I spaz on the mic. Excitement, startle the response. Yeah, let me hear how she says it. Either way, she used it in the proper context. Dad, I know. Uh, hot sauce in my bag. Spaz. He did. Uncle Joe, he made my dress. That spandex shit you wear is a mess. That's shit hard. How does she go? How does she say? That cheap spandex you wear is a mess. That's shit hard. What was that? What? You ain't even hear spaz. No. That's my point. I was singing this song all morning. I had no idea she said spaz in this record until I got to the radio station. And they was like, oh, she's changing the words back. And I'm like, for what? No. Words matter, bro. Well, what is she going to say instead? What is she going to say? What is she going to say? What is she going to say? I don't know what she's going to say. You have no idea? I have no idea. You have no idea? Absolutely no idea that you have. She's going to say Rihanna. Rihanna. Rihanna. Rihanna. That's what she's going to say. All I'm simply saying is if you use a word in this popular context, how can it be offensive? Well, well, well now. Uh, uh. Y'all think makes music, bro. Bro, if you like Drake album, you're going to love this shit. Oh, is that crazy? It's a dance album. It's like, and I like the, I listen. Y'all know I don't even like Drake's music. No, but that I spazz out on that last one. No, honestly, I thought he spazzed on that song. Sticky bro. Bro. I was spazzing, dude. Word. I almost had an or spasm, dude. I was listening to that shit. Dude, can you have an or spasm? Or spasm. Is that allowed? Wow. Is that a real thing? Or spasm. Is that allowed or not? The old spasm is wow. But I just think that words matter. And if you use a word in this proper context, it should not be considered offensive. Yeah. And we all got to be smarter. Are there self identifying like spaz people? Like, did they, did they call themselves? Is there a spaz community in my life? Huh? No, right? I don't think so. So that's my point. And we're doing this because of people in the UK? Because people in the UK are complaining about Beyoncé and Lizzo's music. Okay. So I need some Americans from the LGBT community to go over there and tell them to change the name of their goddamn cigarettes. But that shit sound more offensive than that. That's fact. Somebody saying I'm spazzing on a record. They said, fat. That's it. Okay. Just like that. Oh my God. Let's pay some bills. Hot sauce in my bag. Spaz. Yeah. That's what you gotta say from now on. Hot sauce in my bag. Spaz is wild. Real talk. I'm spazzing out. By the way, don't you wish Beyoncé would have double down, not double down, but just simply like, can we have a real conversation? Beyoncé don't need to talk to y'all. She's changing the lyric. She don't even need to talk to y'all. Like just put out the song. You know you're going to dance with regards. The fact that that lyric is more offensive than half the shit we hear in music anyway. Yeah. It's crazy. Why don't y'all take down the songs with the fucking Rolling Stones singing about banging 15 year olds? How about you do that? That's right. How about y'all do that? Change up some of them lyrics. That's right. Weirdos in the UK. That's right. You got damn weirdos. Context matters. And by the way, I will respect y'all. I will respect everybody that's leading this movement. I will respect y'all when y'all go after the dictionary. Yo. Go after West. Can I be honest with you right now, bro? I'm going to go handle this in the UK, bro. What do you mean? I'm going to do something about this. I'm going to go out there and I'm going to go handle this for Beyoncé. You're not going to disrespect Beyoncé like that without me coming out there and spazzing on you motherfuckers, bro. I'm not joking, Charlotte. If you're going to spaz with somebody, spaz with Beyoncé, yo. I'm spazzing for Beyoncé. I'm not playing around, bro. I see. You look serious. You look like the Spaz Mania and Devil right now, bro. You're ready to go. You're ready to go, bro. You are ready to let it go. I'm telling you, Charlotte, I'm not playing around right now. I'm going to UK to spaz, okay? I didn't even know it was Nyla because she was wearing a dress. Oh, Lord. Nyla don't know if she's Nyla when she's wearing a dress. Big NYLA. You know this already. How do you feel about spazzing on people? I don't think she has to change the word. Thank you. But I don't think you got to go spaz on people. I'm going to the UK to spaz on these blokes. Do what you got to do. You can do that. Oh, shit. Facts. Oh, shit. Facts, bro. How can you recognize my race? I didn't know I was talking about my strength. Why are you showing off these niggas? Oh, that's fine. Who got them for you? You need to get that Brittany Griner, that Russia prison-issued Brittany Griners. Well, I don't think she's got a shoe. They do. Oh, it's a slipper, yeah. Oh, man. What do you think about the proposed Brittany trade, bro? That was a... Okay, we'll do ads and come back. All right. Salute to Audible. Audible, man. You know that myself and Kevin Hart, we got SBA productions. And last week, we put out the audio documentary that explores two unprecedented events that rocked the Philadelphia in the summer of 85. And that's the name of the project, created by New York Times best-selling author Chris Murrow and narrated by Philly native Kevin Hart. Chris is outside. Chris don't even look right on TV sets. Did you see Chris on Goddamn Good Morning America talking about summer of 85? Yeah, dude. He looked super imposing, dude. He looked like... Did you see him? No. I saw him post a picture of it. It didn't look real, dude. No, it didn't look real, bro. It didn't look real. It was weird, right? Why was it so weird? I don't know. It looked like he was on Zoom, but he was there. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Big Zoom energy, bro. Big Zoom energy. B-Z-E. Big Zoom energy. You got that B-Z-E, Chris. Big Zoom energy. But summer of 85 digs deep into what happened when the city's first black mayor, Mary Wilson, Good dropped a bomb literally on the headquarters of a radical group called Move. And two months later... He spazzed on him, bro. ...hosted Live Aid. He did. No, he really did. He spazzed on him. The international concert Live Aid was the raised funds for African famine victims. Move was a controversial Philadelphia-based organization led by John Africa that promoted a back-to-nature lifestyle and anti-government rhetoric. Live Aid was a first-of-its-kind benefit concert that bought in millions of dollars for famine victims in Ethiopia and changed how the world raised and distributed money. Okay? Separated by two months and eight miles, these events revealed the best and worst of the city of Brotherly Love a combustible mix of power, philanthropy, and prejudice. Okay? Featuring interviews with people who directly experienced the events like Bob Geldof... Geldof? Bob Geldof, Daryl DMC McDaniels, Mike Africa, Jr. and the Queen, who I love dearly, Miss Patti LaBelle. Okay? You can hear it exclusively on Audible. Listen now at audible.com slash summer of 85. That's audible.com slash summer of 85. How's the reception been, Chris? Really? Like, fulfilling for you as a creator? Come on in, Mike. Chris, can you talk? Come on. Come torque that thing one time, Chris. People like when you came and bent over the... But take the mask all the way off, please. Please, Jesus Christ. Also, I know why I look weird on the TV set. Why? I didn't realize some guy came over. It's a little weird. Well, she saw that. Well, like... This outfit fired, though. You like that? Hell, yeah. Yeah. Chris outside, bro. He's doing it, bro. He was hitting us with the coffee. He was like... You saw him, bro? You saw him? No, this shit fired, dude. I like this. But why? You thought you looked weird? So when I sat down, some guy came and whispered something in my ear and pointed to a little piece of red tape, like under the desk. And I realized what he meant afterwards was put your hands there. But I didn't know. So I had my hands under the desk the entire time. Oh, so you look like a puppy. No, you were beating me. Is that what it was? I might have forgotten. But the guy, you know, he was using his hands when he talked. But the entire time, I just had my hands under the desk. So you say the reception has been good. How do you gauge that? You know, the articles have been good. I had... I don't think you were there, but I had like an incredible talk with Kevin at that photo shoot the other day where... Kevin? Yeah, Kevin Hart. Oh, Hart. Hart, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was like... Listen, I do... This is what I do for a living. I create content. I tell stories. And there's a story that really has been like researched and told the right way. And this is one of them. I'm just like really proud of how this came out. So I was like, you know, like, that meant something. Yeah. That was kind of a moment. And just also like, I think the other gauge is just kind of getting the reaction from people from Philadelphia since they know the story probably more than most people. And, you know, I think the most important thing is people feel like it's fair and balanced to use a phrase. So it's been fantastic. And salute to Zola too, man. Zola Masheriki. You know, Zola... Basically, she's the big boss at Audible. She's the head of Audible Studios. And she actually posted on her personal Facebook page where she doesn't do a lot. Yeah, that's all that. She'd be doing it all day long because think about all the projects that they put out through Audible. And she really, really, really, really, really loved Summer 85. You know what I mean? And she was like, man, just the correlation between Live Aid and, you know, the bombing of the Move organization. That was something that a lot of people would never put two and two together on. And she really, really, really, really, really dug the project. So that was big. I was like, damn, like Zola posted about that on her personal Facebook page. That was amazing. You know? So that's big. She's literally the head of Audible Studios. You know what I mean? So salute to Zola. Everybody go get Summer 85 on Audible right now. 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I just want to say thank you all so much for buying infamous, supporting me. It was amazing. Those two weeks are absolutely incredible. I'm really most proud of... Well, most probably was successful for sure, and the reception of it. But also that we made a comedy pay-per-view event at a time where comedy specials go up on a streaming platform and they're either ignored or forgotten about. And not only do we have a comedy pay-per-view event where everybody's watching the thing at the same time, tweeting about it and creating a conversation. That conversation lasted for two weeks. So, for two weeks, people talked about a comedy piece, and that just doesn't happen right now. Like, we held attention. So, I'm just so fucking proud of that. Thank you so much for everybody who supported it. It means the world to me, and I'm just really grateful right now. Now it's going to become almost like a legendary thing that either you saw or you didn't see. And if you have it, you actually got something rare. You know what I mean? I don't want to call it an NFT because it ain't worth shit. But it's more authentic than an NFT because it's actually a real piece, a real body of art. So, that's amazing. I want to tell everybody, go get their tickets for the Black Effect podcast festival. BlackEffect.com slash podcast festival is happening Sunday, August 28th at the Mirage in Brooklyn. We got some of your favorite podcasts performing live, 85 South Show, Horrible Decisions, Reasonably Shady. And it's hosted now by the good sister, Jess Hilarious, because you know, our guy, a little Duvall, he had a really bad accident that, you know, he is bouncing back from and the way that Duvall could. Duvall is not letting him hold it down. Like he is, Beyonce made, you can't break my soul for people like little Duvall. I always feel like he's excited that it happened so he could prove he's really about that smile, bitch life. Bro, let me tell you something. Duvall FaceTime me today it happened. And we joke so much. It took me at least five, six minutes to realize, oh, he not playing. I thought he was on the set of a movie. I'm not even joking. He was laying on the scratcher. He had the neck band around his neck and he was sitting there. He was like, bro, I fucked up, bro, I fucked up. I fucked up. What happened exactly? He got hit by a... He got hit by a... He was on his four-wheeler and got hit by a car. He's on his four-wheeler. He's turning into his house. There's a car behind him that tried to get around the four-wheeler, went the way that he was turning in. So it was just horrible timing. You never know. And then boom. Yeah, so I think he fucked up his hip. I think he got like a fucked up wrist. You might have to have surgery on his wrist. Yeah, he had his hip replaced. He has to do surgery on the wrist. I think his knee also something fucked up. I'm not sure. Lacerations all over. Well, I thought he was playing. He's on the phone. He's like, yo, he's like, man, I fucked up. I fucked up. I fucked up. I'm like, you want me to call a train? You want me to train a troop? I'm joking, right? And he just starts saying all kinds of things. He's like, I'm going to be doing a smile bitch from a wheelchair, man. I'm like, what are you talking about? Right? Because I had no idea he was like actually hurt. And then when I could see because I saw the blood and then I saw the doctors. I'm like, oh, shit. But you know, do all ain't letting this shit keep him down, man. You know, and that he is a testament to like, yo, you got to have joy and faith in God through it all. Like life is just one long process. That's why I don't even believe in good or bad. Good or bad. It's just so-called good. So-called bad. It's just all a process. He's just going through a process right now. So Suhtar Ghadriwal, he won't be hosting, but Jesse Larry will be hosting. And make sure you go get your tickets for the Black Effect podcast festival Sunday, August 28th. We got Mouse Jones there doing trap karaoke. We're going to have food. We're going to have drinks. We got a business and podcasting panel. We got a woman and podcasting panel. It's going to be some really, really fun shit, man. And make sure you tune into Hell of a Week every Thursday at 11.30 PM on Comedy Central. This week we got, you know, I don't want to say who we got coming on. Because I don't, you know, anything can happen. We got a great show for you this week. Yes. Yes. So let's get back into the show. What else we got, Taylor Gang? Man, let pastors make money, bro. Like I don't know why we still even have that conversation. Why can't pastors and bishops make money? You ain't mad at your local drug dealer for all the money he make. That's why you mad at your local pastor. Okay. You ain't mad at rappers. You ain't mad at singers. Like, how did, I think he provides a service. That's right. I don't know what Nila just said. Nila, what did you just say? I said rappers don't really make as much money as people think they got. So that's why we're not really mad at them. People don't know that. But pastors provide a service. Why can't they get paid for providing a service? What do they provide? They provide faith every Sunday. There's still positive energy and empowerment in the people. Like they make you feel like you can get through life. And by the way, these people have dedicated their life to speaking the message of the Lord. Why can't they get paid for that? No. Why can't they get paid for that? Real quick. They can't get paid. Anyone could be a bishop though. You know that, right? You could be one, you could be one, everything else. Why are you not one? I don't want to be one. And I don't believe everybody can be a bishop. You just go online. Nobody in this room can preach like Bishop T.D. Jigs. That man is anointing. Of course. But someone like... What's his name? What's his real name? I've never heard him preach. He might be fire. You suck. I've never heard him preach. I don't know. I've never heard him preach. I've never heard him preach. It isn't a preacher thing though. You can be in a rap room. You can be in a preacher. You can be in a preacher. What about this? It is true that pastors should be able to make an income. But if you are following the gospel, the gospel says that you shouldn't have all these luxuries. Where did you say that at? It literally says it. Wait, wait, wait. Show me. I see the Bible telling you that you should... No, it's like you should live humbly. You should... You can be humble and a phantom. You ain't got to tell nobody you got it. You ain't got to show it off. I mean, he had a thing where he was pulling up in the fucking Urus and shit. No, he said this is my prayer closet. That's what he's saying. All right, but specifically... Am I making this up? He said this is my prayer closet. But he wasn't showing it all. He wasn't like, this is my Gucci. This is my Louis. He said this is my prayer closet. He just happened to have the Gucci and Louis in there. Y'all got jealous because y'all don't got a closet for the Gucci and Louis. But if you gave your life to the Lord, you might have some tailor gang. You ever thought about that? You thought about maybe you're missing your calling by being a producer. Maybe you should be a pastor. Because Psalm 112-3 says, Wealth and riches are in his house and his righteousness endures forever. Philippians... I'm about to say Filipinos. Filipinos 419 says, And my God will supply all your needs according to his riches and glory in Christ Jesus. Like the Bible don't say nothing about being broke. I don't know where y'all got that from. The Bible talks about wealth and riches so much throughout it. We didn't say that it talks about... It never says you should be broke. It says you shouldn't be bragging about... That's all it says! No, that's all we said. We didn't say anything about being broke. I haven't seen a man brag yet. And then also, sure, anybody can find a Bible verse to be in favor of what they believe. The same way you just pulled those, I could pull two saying the exact opposite. Pull it, pull them then. I don't feel like it. Yeah, I hate when motherfuckers do that. Don't say you can do something if you can't do it. I'm getting pulled right now. Pull it up. You text the car? Pull it up. All I'm simply saying is, be humble. That's all we want. If the guy wasn't stuntin', you wouldn't care. You don't have any pastors make money throughout the country and they deserve it. You know who else should make money? Teachers. How come y'all don't tithe in the office for teachers? You know who else should be making money? Police officers and firefighters. How come y'all don't tithe in the office for them? Y'all don't respect y'all public servants. That's the problem with y'all generation. Y'all don't even... You learn from y'all. Y'all don't either. What have you done for teachers? When I didn't have millions of dollars, I still did what I could. When's the last time you've donated to a person that does service? Seriously now, I'm not joking. I haven't donated financially, but I'll donate my time in knowledge. How? Tell me how. Because that matters too. How? No, I've done spend like a girl where I taught kids how to... Well, young girls how to DJ. That's not donating the pub... I'm talking about the people that are actually doing their service now. I'm talking about our nurses, our doctors, our teachers, our police officers, military veterans, military veterans. Oh, I give money to vets on the street all the time. Okay. My dad's, you know, retired 27 years. That's good. Here's the problem that nobody... Here's the thing that nobody wants to admit. Jealousy and envy is a motherfucker. And it don't matter who it is that has, everybody gets jealous and envious of people. Yeah, that's why you have to be careful what you show. Yes. You go to certain parts of the world. When I was in Morocco, you couldn't see wealth on the outside of the world. All the wealth is on the inside. The houses were... I think it's called like a riyadh or whatever like that. Behind the walls. Exactly, behind the walls. Because they knew. It's like, you know, there's poor people on starving on the streets and you won't flex in front of these people like that. That's crazy. That's right. That's right. So I do understand. Like Adam Sandler is still dressing like a toddler. Because he's probably scared to flex. No, because he knows that he won't be relatable to the people that watch his movies if he's out here acting his wage. As soon as they start looking successful, like, I don't fuck with him like I used to. I don't fuck with her like I used to. Can I tell you something? I don't know if you felt this, but when you don't have money, you love flexing. No, I've never been like that. When, at least for me, when you don't have money, you love flexing because you're like, you want to show what you don't have. The second you get some real money, the urge to flex isn't there because the ego is satisfied. It's like, oh, you actually have the money. Now I don't have to showcase all these people on Instagram how rich I am because you know you are. That's an interesting thought. When you're broke, you got to be like, yo, look how crazy my life is. You're trying to dress it into existence. Yes. You're faking it so you make it and then you make it. It's like, when I couldn't forward private jets, we were flying around a fucking tour on them. Do you know what I'm saying? Now that I might be able to afford it, I'm like, I would never waste money on a private jet. Fuck a private jet. You know what's so interesting? I don't think the ego is fueled by what you have. I think when you have and you're satisfied with that and you don't care about showcasing it to anybody, that just shows how secure you are with yourself because you're not seeking validation of others. I think a lot of times people want people to know, I got this and I got that because they're really seeking validation from other people. 100%. And I think there's something about maybe reaching like a success level for yourself that makes you go, okay, well, I don't care as much how these people feel about it. It's a cool moment to get to but I do admire like if you look at the really rich people. Yeah. I'm not talking about regular rich. I'm talking about wealth. You even like when you see them, you don't even know what they're not wearing. You don't even know it. Ain't got nothing on. They might have a watch that you don't even know about. There's some crazy amount of money, but you have no even clue. That's right. There's no diamonds encrusted all over it. My dad told me that when I was mad young, he was like, you see that dude right there? That dude is rich and shit. Like it would be a regular black dude. You know, no Gucci on, no Rolex, no nothing. And I always had that mentality like, oh, when you got it, you know what I'm saying? You don't have to flaunt it. Yeah. It's when you don't really have it is when people Then you want to flaunt it. They want to fake it till they make it, which I think is actually ridiculous. Yeah. We're ridiculous. Human beings are ridiculous. Yeah. Everything about ourselves is absolutely ridiculous. We want love. We criticize. We want to be told we're great. When we really just want them to be like, hey, you're really awesome. We're weird. You know, it's crazy. And listen, there's plenty of pastors who use God, you know what I mean? To come up and make money often. But it's funny when we'll look at a man, a woman who's dedicated their life to God, dedicated their life to service, dedicated their life to actually, you know, doing something that benefits people and we'll say, they don't deserve that. You know, who actually don't deserve all the money? Us. The fuck do we do? What do we do? We're like, what do we do? We do what we do. We're like, Oh, you mean like, I think. Think about how crazy America is. It's a place that rewards people that do shit like we do, but then teachers out here, What do you do? Right now. Right now. Yes, what are you doing? Right now. Go be a pastor. Oh, what are we going to do about teaching should be making mad money. Yes. But think about that. America does not reward them military veterans should not be homeless in this country, but America does not reward them But motherfuckers like us who talk shit for living can make millions of dollars. Yeah I'm not knocking it cuz I'm one, but I'm just I'm just simply saying that there's something weird about that You understand I'm saying Chris. Yeah, I agree with you. I'm sorry. Sorry Jeremiah 923 Thus says the Lord let not the wise man boast in his wisdom Let not the why let not the mighty man boast in his might let not the rich man boasts in his riches James 4 16 17 but now you boast and brag and all And all such boasting is evil It is a sin when someone knows the right thing to do and then doesn't do it So I'm 59 12 13 because of the sins from their mouths and the words of their lips Let them be trapped in their own arrogance because they speak curses and lies destroy them in your rage Destroy them until not one of them is left then they will know that God rules Jacob to the ends of the earth It proves your point it talks about just don't boast. Yeah, have it. Nobody said don't have there's don't be both Don't boast don't brag. Yeah, I think with this guy and specifically though I understand what you're saying in general He's probably not the best example because he has been accused of stealing money from the people in his church He's been to jail for identity fraud in the past. He can't change his life He went to jail he came home. He can't change his life Okay, let me ask you a question. What biggie big do you believe in Kirk Frank? Do you believe in Kirk Frank? There's a righteous man. I believe he's a human. You believe he's a right But do you believe he's a righteous man? No, I'm just asking do you believe because we saw him curse out his son crazy that don't make me look at him any different That's two different things He cursed somebody out I saw video cursing somebody out too I don't know what y'all talking about. I think that y'all hating on this man And I don't I've never heard the man preach I don't know nothing about him other than what we've seen in the past two weeks But this man is not boasting that man. Y'all you know what it is They ain't on that man closet. You hate on Believe that past they got a bigger closet than y'all with more clothes Outfitted shoes from Horrible Can get a closet like Jealous man, give me this man. I'm about to donate to this man. Yeah, y'all got me wanting me to donate to this man church Come on man. Come on Matthew six one. Give me some asking idiots so we can get out of here Taylor y'all didn't hate it on that man of God for no reason Okay, you don't know nothing about that man arguing All I did was argue with your point What was the argument that passes shouldn't get money So what was the argument? I really don't know what the argument was argument I'm like oh the sky's blue. He'd be like, but water water makes great Main thing was this one women do when they lose an argument. They'd be like it's just cuz you're too good argument It's cuz you're right. This is cuz you're right We still can't be right We just better at arguing the wrong thing The main thing was about is it a certain type of it's okay for The bishop to get money how he is But he never showed off he did not go in his closet and say look at all this stuff I got a video of him pulling up in a little orange. Yeah, there's a but he didn't say this is my arm again He's driving a car. No, no, no, he did it as part of like a promo thing. He was driving his car On camera on camera was driving his car What are you talking about? Okay, you showed off your sneakers you sinful bastard And showed off your sneakers God is not like people boasting. Okay. I didn't see the pastor say Look at my Lamborghini. You came in there. I want to show my sneakers you put your sneakers up on the table boasting crazy Wow, he likes his Lambo and he didn't even tell you he had a Lambo. Yeah, I didn't him not one say he had a Lambo We need him on the pod People are giving him Offerings and everything else right we would think he's using that for something else not all this designer stuff That's what makes it uncomfortable. Yes. Why man Good example is the Black Lives Matter movement and how every time she buys a home Twitter gets in the uproar because it's like, well, what are we donating for if you live in a mansion speaking about two things that don't go together It's a thing man. Jesus had lambs fish and white hand got lamb All right. I don't know what the hell y'all talking about I don't see the problem here. Give me some asking this Taylor And let's get up out of here and he ain't no path for no reason Movement why you guys hate on that? Don't tell them nothing when they get pregnant. They don't want to pass to the prey form because they For real you gotta chill out man Taco Slayer says what is your definition of love? To me it's sacrifice. What is your definition of love shows? Yep Yeah, it's sacrifice for sure. You think so. I think there's sacrifice in it. What is my definition of love love? Yeah, I think it's like just like selflessness You know, it's like That's a great question. What is what is my definition of love? Hmm. I don't know Love is an interesting thing. It's like it's this feeling that you have where you want to do things for another person You want that person to be happy and their happiness is so Integral to your own happiness and like you just want to give them the world you want to provide for them You want to support them? Yeah, it's just this feeling where like kind of your your behavior towards this other person is Like instinctually The same as your behavior for like yourself and your family And I think yeah, that's when I know that I really love Sometimes it's stronger than what you have for your family. Yeah. Well, cuz yeah, yeah, you're making your new one Yeah, my yeah, I had a homegirl back in the day. She told me that You don't know what love is until you have kids When you have kids if you love your significant other the way you love your kids, then you love Oh, that's cool. And I feel that I really do I really really do feel that I don't I mean Honestly, I couldn't give you what a definition of love is I guess tricky It's just something you feel but I do know you can't feel it for others if you don't genuinely feel it for yourself Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, I think that's why like I Think that's why you see Love and music and you see love and art so much because oftentimes we go to art and we go to music to describe feelings that we have that We can't actually articulate so like a song makes you go. Oh my god. Yeah, that that song makes me feel the things That's what I was gonna say like the emotion in music to me is almost more powerful than yeah the relationships I have between people. Yeah, that that's I don't know that I think Ethan Hawke said this somewhere But I think that's the idea of like art is like arts not necessary until you can't describe How sad you are or until you can't describe how happy you are how in love you are how excited you are And then there's a piece of art There's a piece of music that you either look at her like you consume and you're like or there's a movie watching like Oh, that's the feeling that I have they figured it out And they put it in a place where I can relate to and digest that that is the important thing what I can't say Yeah, and the power of spoken word is so powerful, bro Whether it's music whether it's comedy whether it's Radio podcast whether it's pastors. Yeah, like the power of spoken word is literally what moves us all Like everything. Yeah, even when you're looking for that right quote or that right You know it's there thing to say in a moment like it's somebody that has said it that captures it 100% man What else we got telegame Not really Let me see what else we got Now this is a good one Mehdi D. Menon says what's something that didn't make sense to you can end on this one What's something that didn't make sense to you as a kid that makes even less sense now I got a million of these I feel like um Why why women and men sound different? Like dog male dogs and and female dogs Just sound the same right like To you Oh To you dogs will be able to distinguish the barks. Yeah, you know that for a fact. I do not So your dogs can can hear it like a growl from a girl dog. Oh, that's a girl growling. I think so But we don't know that Yeah Speaking of animals for me man It's like when I was a kid I used to wonder like how do all of these shit have the same name Like if this was a room full of cows, you mean to tell me every single one of these individuals is a cow Like none of them have their own individual like you're andrew. We're all humans, right? But you're still andrew I'm linar. Just chris. You know, you don't think name cows. They name cattle. They really don't they don't care Enough to name them. This is all cows Yeah, well, if you were going to eat something eventually, would you like name it and Um, we don't know but that's the thing right when I was a kid I used to be like damn and who came up with those names like who said this is a cow This is a cat and they tell a story of Noah and how Noah named them and the reason it makes less sense to me now It's because peta stands on that shit. Yeah He'll be like, yo, don't say bullhorn or don't say somebody's chicken like they say don't use words Yeah, don't call somebody a pig. Yeah You wouldn't even ask the animals if that's what they want to be called. Oh So it makes less sense to me now as an adult Also, uh, when your parents used to like when school used to be back in about to be back in and be like practice going to sleep early for school And you're like, what? They was just trying to get it popping. That's it. Yeah There's a lot of shit that don't make sense to me. I mean that didn't make sense to me there That don't make sense to me now What i'll tell my kids what when you want them to go to better when you tell that go to my tail Oh, I was I was running with the pink eye lie all last week because I We had like two kids with the pink eye in my house between my seven-year-old and my three-year-old And they were acting so difficult with the drops, bro So what'd you say? I started you gonna go blind I went from blind to your eyes won't fall out because they were not listening, bro In the funny part about seven-year-olds and three-year-olds. They know better My eyes ain't falling out. You know, I mean and then my wife wouldn't back me up Money's like her their eyes are not gonna fall out You fight them then I'm not holding them down to put drops in my You know what I mean, but yeah, that was whatever the fuck Taylor asked me. That was the answer That's all we got. We good. I think we good baby. I think we're good, man As always if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent You think we're brilliant. Yeah, absolutely right But if you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit You're right too. It's the brilliant idiots podcast. Thank you for listening