 personal opinion again, it'd be easier to Maybe not have fans this year and then just go full force next year But I just I think it'd be really difficult to decide. Oh the Rangers can have fans But yeah, if you go play in Oakland, you don't get to have fans there And I think that would just be difficult to do that. So that's just my Personal it would also be good because every home run ball. Yeah, you guys can just grab. Yeah Honestly, okay, so from the side I'm Super gung-ho about not having fans in the state in the fans just for that because we can't Authenticate balls that get hit the fans so we can't authenticate home run balls that a fan touches So if there's nobody in the outfield, I'm just like we could literally just put authenticators in the outfield and just have them shag home run balls and The amount of money that we could make like no one has I don't think anybody has to show Hey, oh, Tony home run ball that would be So cut to be able to get one. That'd be really really really good to get one. So why can't you What are some more gems like that? Yeah, I was I was gonna say you know jump to the show. Hey, Otani ball Are there other like mythical things out there like? Yeah, Byron Buxton's left cleat or Once that kind of stuff the reason I know about that. I'm pretty sure about the show. Hey, Otani is Well, we can't authenticate balls that a fan touches for the simple fact that By the time the authenticator gets out to the fan or the fan gets to the authenticator that ball could be switched out And then they're not authenticating the actual baseball So so the only a home run balls at least a target field that we can authenticate is as a home run Our balls that are hit to our batters. I because fans can't touch them. No one can get to them And we used to be able to do balls in the bullpen But even now major league baseballs who can't do balls that get hit with players they've more either. Yeah, so they stopped doing that And and it was always difficult to get them anyway Especially if they were hit into the visiting bullpen because they didn't want to give you because they were one mad because we Just hit a home run off their guy. So they want to give us the ball anyway But you know, what about off the pole if it bounces into the playing field And it doesn't and a player picks it up and tosses it back to the dugout Then yeah, we can do that But if it bounces off the pole and goes into the stands, we can't do it. We can't touch those But yeah, Shohei Otani. I mean, I think his first couple of years. He had some injuries So he I don't think he's played like a couple of full seasons. I know I think it was lack two years ago The angels came to target field for the first time with Shohei With trout and with pool holes all playing at the same time and I was super hyped for it But then of course I had to go to Boston for retail meetings So those are the only three games that I missed that season and I just I was just I was like, you know what? I guarantee you Shohei's gonna hit a home run ball I just know I'm like he's gonna hit one and I'm not gonna be there And I'm not gonna be able to get it and literally the first game of home fan He hits a home run ball and I'm like I Could have where to it went to the bullpen and at that time we could have authenticated balls in the bullpen So I could have gotten it and it would have been the first one But I wasn't there so I couldn't get it and in general you can sell like a Shohei Otani baseball for like $2,500 And that's just like a base hit or a double What a home run ball that no one else would have been able to get Could have gone for quite a bit of money. So I was so upset that I missed that I was Crazy I have I have a weird line of questioning or thought process on this So if there's a someone out there, yeah that caught like someone's listening to this and they have an Otani home run ball at their home Yeah, it's kind of like a it's like cool, but it's not authenticated. So it's not worth anything. Yeah So catching a home run ball Devalues the thing you just caught immediately almost what if like I catch a home run ball Like this yeah my hand up and I just never put my hand down ever and on camera. Yeah Run onto the field right away field right away. It's pretty it's pretty clear. You know, yeah Just always up and then the authenticator authenticates it. Yeah, well if that was allowed Screaming for him right away if that was allowed to happen Yeah, would that fan then be able to sell that ball with the authentication? If they yes, if it wasn't okay, so if it wasn't like a milestone home run that we asked for back for the player And if we were able to authenticate it then sure yeah, they caught it free and clear It's a ball they can have they can I can't take a home run ball from someone Even if we were if hypothetically we were able to authenticate it. I couldn't take it from them So yeah, they could go and sell it if they wanted to and I'll be and I'll say this too there are fans who do still sell things that aren't authenticated Um, and that and but it's it's a really sounds like a racket. Yeah, it's a it's a really kind of Touchy thing to do That hologram sticker means a lot to a lot of buyers now. So they look for that kind of thing Um, you know, and even if you have video of it because there's been fans who've done that too like You know, I've got video even and even things that I sell that have hologram stickers on it The reason that fans ask for the photo shoot of the bat is because they literally go back and watch The game and they look at where the tape is on the bat and they look at where the Pine tar and just to match it up just because they want to catch up sometimes and say Oh what you have is in what you really have so fans when it comes man. Yeah So when it comes to remember so weird human it is never be they've gotten really smart about it and uh, They're really on top of things But the sticker is really pretty important to a lot of collectors nowadays I have so many questions. I don't even know where to begin. Okay. Okay. I'll begin for you. The authentication stickers You're done. Get out of here. Let me ask one. Trevor. Yeah, okay. Don't change the subject first There's I mean, we're gonna use so many different baseballs this year because you can't touch you touch it once You got to throw it out. So you guys are gonna have an influx of baseballs for sale Price has got to go down. That's just a statement. I'm not gonna ask a question on that. My question is It's smart. Sure. When is okay You can't authenticate balls when they go in the stands, but you can't pre-authenticate balls Like we just watched the sosa maguire documentary when they were chasing the homerun record Obviously, they pre-authenticate those balls. Those guys get to use special balls. I guess so it's not it's not authenticated It's got a stamp on a mark. Yeah a mark so that you know This is the ball that was used just for there at bat, but it's not an authentication That would not come until after But you could authenticate that those obviously get authenticated After the fact why not do that for more of the big name guys when when trout's up when otani is that you know Guys big money guys. Why not just mark those balls? So and are you going to start doing that? No, I don't so because the the authentication that we use is like a little silver sticker Um, and so it it does stay on it's it's pretty much tamper proof But to to try and use it in game. I don't know how pitchers would feel about that. No, I'm saying mark I'm saying mark have marked the balls. Yeah, and I'm sure I'm sure they would look into doing that It's it's baseballs are expensive. I think people think that teams get them for free for one No, we do have to pay it's like a hundred and 25 hundred and 35 dollars a dozen For baseball, so they're very order a lot and we order a lot. So it's very very expensive to do that um, but I I think uh, it could be something that we We look into doing Maybe for this season, but I don't know if it could work out because I don't a lot of teams have already ordered their baseball So then you would have to Order new ones. Um, just for for those at bats and things like that. What's the mark? Is it just like a pen mark or what you order them specific specifically marked? Uh, no, so it just depends. So like with the sami sosa and stuff They put like a number on it or they put like a letter a certain letter So on on the balls that you know if it does get caught by a fan if you look at it It's got like a specific mark on them. Um, it doesn't it and then um, so we could do that. I just don't know There's some pitchers, right who don't like to toss baseballs out of the game There's some so it so that would be the other issue too. So like if you had an albert pool holes come up to bat And a pitcher Just got an out with the baseball and the baseball still good. They're not going to want to toss it out To get another baseball just to throw it to albert So I think it's all about trying to make sure that you don't interrupt disrupt the game too much Just because you're trying to sell memorabilia Um, yeah, you don't want to do that. Um, and that's the thing that we have that I have to kind of explain the fans too because There are times and they're like I want to uncrack bat from trevor plou I want to uncrack bat from from joe mower and I'm like, that's great But if trevor is on a hot streak, I'm not about to go into the clubhouse and be like, hey So joe smith really wants an uncracked bat and I know that you're using the same one for the last Week and a half or so because you've been hot. Can I take this so I can sell it? Like I'm not going to put myself or the player in that position just to sell things So authentic says kind of it's an extra We're not trying to disrupt what's already happening in the game just so that we can we can make sales on the side But I think you just give the home plate um one of those stamps that has like 30 sides and he'll just stamp it Say trout. Yeah, but then again, that's you that's us asking the umpires to go above and beyond and we need them to call balls and strikes