 So the cool thing is that with the new OBS I can see chat in OBS now. The other one I had didn't so kind of needed. Wait. However, we are not public. So right now there's an EFAP stream happening and no one knows about it. That's pretty exciting. It is. Scan back to the basics, all right. We just sit down. How cozy is that? Last thing. I've titled this one. We're just having a chat. We're winding down. Just chatting. Just chatting. Just chatting. In fact, we don't want to chat about it because we're going to use this one to catch up on all the stream labs that I haven't caught up with enough. All right. Do that first and then I think we'll gun for the rings of power ones. Go for as long as you can. We can finally close the door on that chapter. Maybe. We're still closing chapters to other super chats offline. It's been a great year for big speculative fiction like media. Big intellectual properties. It's been great. EFAP chat. Let me know if me or the guys need to be leveled up or down because this is new. This is the first time I've streamed EFAP from this new PC. Things won't be quite the way I probably want them to be. In fact, I should probably check my levels from the PC, right? I think I settled on like 50 for when I was doing it. You can see it's 39 right now. I don't know if that's too low or not. Now it's on 50. I'm going to leave it there. 50 seems solid. I don't know. Yeah. Halfway, not too. It's funny because when you first told me about the option, you were like, oh yeah, make sure you kick the hole. Don't let it change from other stuff. It's like I've done that. I didn't do shit. It still changes. You know, it's like, don't let other apps change the sound of the volume or whatever. It still does. It's worth noting, guys. I've been, I was playing God of War not just a couple of hours ago. I haven't slept. I'm very tired. That's the update for those who don't know in the EFAP world is that a God of War hit many of the EFAP's ferians as like a train. We've been going nuts on it. Yeah. And I'm well behind of Muller and Metal. They're well ahead of me. Yeah. Metal is almost the point of having completed everything. I've started doing the end game, well, post end game stuff, I guess. And I'm like what, only halfway, maybe? Yeah, it's hard to say. You know, even if someone's completed, it's hard to say because I can't remember how much stuff you've got to do that's not story. Which I feel like I've been doing a ton of like non-story. I feel like I'm trying to make sure that no stone is left unturned, like try and find everything in every big open world stretch. So kind of taking my time with it, absorbing it in, having a blast. Is that controversial chat? I think it's really good. This humble chat here. See, the first thing I see, it's woke, but it's all right. I hear you've been saying some cringe things during Muller's playthroughs. Someone told on you chat. Yeah. There's been some cringe things like God of Soy or whatever. I guess Soy would have a God. You'd have a God story. I would probably have a God of Soy if I made the game. His name is the God of Soy. But he's made of soy or what? Like he's miserable and he slowly slaps across the floor as he like tries to, he's like, got this attitude of just not wanting to do anything. They're like, come on, man, we got to go. And he's just like, oh, no, that would be God of Bore. Thing is the God of Soy he would come through in the end. You know, I would make that arc happen. You'd need to see it. The God of Soy would come in. We chatted with Theo on my stream just like not a few hours ago. He's got interesting perspectives on the game for sure. Yeah. To say Theo hates the game probably gives you a particular impression. It's a little more complicated. Yeah. It's more complicated and interesting and worthwhile in terms of like examining that perspective. Theo's perspective I see shared by very few people. And I don't mean that in that it's unreasonable. I mean that he's got a very unique POV compared to... It's better than God of Soy. Let's put it that way. In terms of perspective, that's that game. Yeah. I don't think he's getting for the God of Soy thing. Yeah. Boy of War. Christmas sucks. What is this? I will not support that sentiment. Christmas is cool. She sounds better. I don't like. Oh yeah, Christmas is coming. It is. And I'm already prepared. I've spent ages getting these all set back up. But look, the Christmas cover is already good to go. Complete with ice falls. I think the one thing I forgot when we did the Halloween one this year because it was all thinking was putting the webbing in. Let's see, we got gaming is good to go, mini movies. They're all functioning. It's good to know that they're all working. Do you understand how fucking long it takes? You need to set them up all individually because like when I say individually, I mean individual files and names because OBS like has a program wide control over every single like source. So let's just say there's not many efficient ways of setting it all up. But now that once you've done it all, it's very efficient. Works perfectly. So yeah, the vibes will be there. Don't worry. We'll have to record a Christmas E-Fat movies. Momentum will increase because of this new station I'm at, I'm sure. How very exciting. What would be the Christmas film though? What would be the Christmas film is a great question. Die Hard is a Christmas movie as far as I'm concerned. We can watch Die Hard. That'd be fun. We'll fetch some people to watch it with us. Will it be something that will be a good E-Fat movies or will we just be sitting there watching it and enjoying it for a good, for being a good movie? Well, I watched Die Hard last Christmas. So if I knew we were watching it and had to commentate, I'll go look at the IMDV trivia. So I have something to say. Did you know Bruce Willis was in this film? Then you guys be like, wow, dude. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah. Oh, imagine that. Why don't we get started? For those who are curious, the plan is now Odd D E-Fap in a week's time. And then Ragnarok E-Fap a week after that. Okay. Post that. I'm not 100% sure because we still need to take a week off at some point. I suppose it's better to space them out instead of doing them at some time. So we'll, we'll figure it out. See, loads of people waiting for that Hot D. So I'm going to have to spend the next week doing a rewatch, getting some notes. We'll try and get suitable guests, but we are running out of time to the point where if they can't make it, we're just going to have to go without them, which sucks. But, you know, the last thing we want is for Odd D to get Moon Knighted. Okay. We don't want that. That would be bad. Moon Knighted and Ragnarok deserved to be Moon Knighted. Well, I don't know. I don't know if it did or didn't. That's a complex question. That's a good question. Andor. So I think the plan right now is that myself, Ragnarok, will try and catch up and watch it, make some notes and we'll do an episode talking about the show as a whole. Not sure what the format will be in terms of like a chronological breakdown or rather just like big subjects. I think that's more likely though. I know that everyone has been very upset that we haven't talked more about Andor. The thing is, I'm just going to be completely honest with you. It sunk under my radar. It just disappeared. There's been a lot of stuff we've been doing, a lot of things to watch, a lot of stuff happening. Yeah, there's a time when we were watching four shows. Yeah. And it arrived right at the peaks and ends of the Rings of Power and She-Hook stuff. And then right before the obsession with Ragnarok was about to start. And so it didn't get its time, so to speak. I question they release plans with stuff like that because Disney is Star Wars and Marvel, right? So they should probably move them around to be less fringe. I imagine that they have tried to do that for a long time, but the sheer quantity of stuff that they're making probably makes that quite difficult now to make. Especially when it's 12 episodes, that's going to be, and there's, I think it premiered with like three, so that's at least three months, right? Would you ever like, if you were them, be like, oh, we need to move it around so that something like Wakanda Forever, that needs to be on an island. It needs to absorb as much attention as possible. Meanwhile, Andor, I'm so worried about it being boring to the audience. We need to release it alongside something else or something like that. I can imagine that there would be those types of conversations about when it should come out, like optimally in terms of making money, rather than, I'm pretty sure that like the film, they're set in stone like years in advance, whereas TV shows are a bit more, you know, like they can sort of be adjusted, it seems. Because I'm pretty sure that a lot of, I'm pretty sure that like Disney, like you can just look up their slate up until like 2025. And they've got a bunch of things, a lot of them will just be like untitled Marvel or like untitled Disney live action, but like they know when these things are coming out and they've got set days, which usually like major like November, you know, peak times, though, I don't know how many favorites it's really done them this year by the looks of things. They're still making money, but you know. All right, like I said, I'll start with streamers. This will cross between all kinds of subjects. So who knows grab bag. The comment that anger and rage is seen positive in men is wrong as small weak boy with a temper that was bullied. I was always told how I should not get angry in any situation. What's a food that doesn't go well with bacon? That is literally they follow it. What the fuck? Okay, we'll separate these chocolate. Oh yeah, yeah, we'll separate these out. So as for the first thing, the anger and rage is seen as positive in bed is wrong. I didn't realize that was a thing anyway. The anger and rage is seen as a positive in men. I think it's surely it's a neutral like it can it can be seen as a positive. Well, it can ever see it can rage. I would say it's more likely to be seen as a negative and positive. Yeah, I think so. I think it's quite vilified. Yeah, yeah, because there are times where a person will have something done to them, and then getting angry, it'll be like, well, that's very suitable. And I can respect that they're going to fucking rage out sort of thing. But most of the time, yeah, it's a sign of like, oh, they're going to do something that they shouldn't do. Yeah, it's the dark side. Did we learn nothing from Doha? Yeah. As for what's the food that doesn't go well with bacon? Yeah, I think you're right about chocolate. That's not exactly they don't seem to blend, do they? Maybe. Maybe like, what about like mayo? Put some get it get yourself a nice strip of bacon. This is guaranteed on there. There's someone in chat who's like, you don't like mayo and bacon? Well, there's someone who's probably does the same thing with chocolate, but those are the very strange weird people. There you go. It goes good. There you go. BLT has mayo. They're all citing BLT rags. I think what they don't realize is, I assume you're talking about almost using a piece, slice of bacon as like a spoon and yeah, it's not like that. That's so, God, that sounds like hell. I suppose all sources just yeah, and you can reuse the bacon if it's crispy, so you can just the mayo off the top of it and then dip it back in. It's like a meaty piggy spoon. Bacon should never be used as a spoon. This is probably sometimes where it's okay. Next one says Han shot last. Oh my goodness. I don't think that's acceptable to say. Well, unless they're trying to say he shot last in that he was the only one who shot, so he shot both first and last. I suppose that's true. Yeah, you're right. That was the joke in Robot Chicken where he was like he shot, but that was about Boba Fett. He shot first and last. He doesn't use the force, he just uses force. He's never had a bad feeling about this. Robot Chicken Star Wars is pretty funny. Oh yeah, yeah. Those clips were popping up in our Nobby and Boba Fett coverage, right? Or at least the Boba Fett coverage. Mm-hmm. Mola, can you recite the first verse of Master of Puppets in the voice of Davy Jones? After PTSD from Rings of Power, I rewatched Extended Lord of Rings trilogy and it was great. Oh, that's not to do with the first bit. Well, recite the first verse of Master of Puppets in the voice of Davy Jones. I don't know the first bit. I love the song. I'm afraid I don't know the lyrics that well, but I also... I haven't tested my Davy... I say that, I haven't tested my Davy Jones acts in a while. It's pretty much my Bobia voice. It's like the same thing, I'm pretty sure. Maybe someday if I can prep it or something without sounding hyper cringe. After PTSD from Rings of Power, I rewatched Extended Lord of Rings trilogy and it was great. All right, thumbs up to that, just in general. Good stuff. What is y'all's favorite extra scenes? Mine is Saruman's death and Bilbo and Frodo in Fellow. Fellowship, I guess. Yeah, my automatic pick is the Saruman scene. It's top-notch. Yeah, I think the issue there is that it's probably the deleted scene that's most required to actually resolve plot issues. So it kind of elevates it above everything else as far as I'm aware. It does everything. It fills in gaps. You kind of have to say it. Yeah. But it also does some great character shit. Like Saruman dresses down like everybody there really well and it makes for a good start in terms of we build, like especially if like Thayden, he has his own shit to do in that movie. Basically everybody does. And then of course Grima giving him like a bit of a redemption of sorts and telling us what happened to him. But not counting that one because I almost feel it's almost unfair. But I would probably go with the Boromir, Faramir and Denethor and Oskiliath. That's a chunky scene too. Yeah, it gives you a lot of info. Yeah, we learn a lot about Boromir, Faramir's relationship. Boromir. Boromir, Faramor, Forimor. We learn about the two brothers in Denethor and all of their relationships with everybody else. And Boromir is always welcome. So I think that's probably my favorite. But it's really tough because pretty much all of them, I think except for one, I like. I don't think I like the one where the Witch King just breaks Gandalf's staff. I'm like, how the fuck did you do that? What? What the fuck? How'd you do that? What? And then nothing ever comes of it. But I'd have to rewatch it and see. But I think that's the one, it's the Oskiliath scene, which is in the two towers extended edition. So we kind of learn post Boromir's death, some setup for him going to Rivendale and his relationship with Faramir. You got one for me? Well, yeah, just go with Salomon. That one, I think I agree with what Rage said. It's so essential that it kind of just like necessarily. Well, any if they were, if that one was discounted, is there any other stuff off the top of your head? Not right now. No, my brain is. What's funny is I've seen extended so many times, sometimes I can't actually forget which ones are even. They are the correct versions, jailed, if you think otherwise. I'm pretty sure I told you guys, I'll keep telling you guys this most shocking information ever. It was only as of like a half a year ago that Drinker saw the extended visions. What? Jesus Christ. Really? Yeah. And he was like surprised. And me, Gary, and Az almost dies. We were just like, how did you, the horror? Just be required viewing. I think a close second for me would be also in the two towers. When Faramir captures Bilbo and Frodo and Sam, when he captures Frodo and Sam, they have that ambush on the mumma keel and all the, and the guys going to help out Sauron. And he sees, one of the guys gets killed. He gets shot by the arrow. One of the, one of the baddies gets shot off the Oliphant and he falls down kind of next to Sam and Frodo and Faramir sees him and he talks about how basically war is shit. Like what, what could have brought this guy so far from home to die here? What was his story, blissfully? Is it war just shit? Which the more you know about Faramir and what he's trying to do to please, you know, his father and why he does things, he's like, it makes a lot of sense. I am, see that's a scene that if you would ask me, was that theatrical or extended? I might have guessed theatrical because I couldn't remember. I think that's an extended scene. No, you're probably right. It's just, that's what I mean. Like my mind is a bit blended on that one because I've watched extended a billion times, you see. Lord Longo, two guns of Star Wars bounty hunter. Is there a chance of an Andor fap of Disney's Andor when there's less going on? When there's less going on door? It would be a completely normal E fap of the ages. Uh, yes. There is hopes. How long until that show is over now? We've got like another one. I think the, I know. I think this week is a finale. Fuck. Yeah. Um, yeah, we can't delay the Ragnarok one because that one's already delayed. Well, just hot D one was delayed. So that's just, yeah, there's delays everywhere. But it's funny because if I had him like, well, we could double up. And it's like, Christ, we can double up. The thing is, is that it feels like there might be a few gaming real like, I don't know. I feel like Callisto protocol might end up being one. That's true. That's basically my resume before in the remake. They're all the resident evil. This one's going to be tough. Guaranteed. This, this next few months going to be tough to get everything done. Gonna have to start. It's going to be tough. But at the same time, it's going to, there's a lot of stuff to talk about. Oh, it's going to be fun. Fun, fun, fun. It feels like we've got some nice positive ones sort of lining up. Ragnarok is more important screw and all. I want you to have to talk about something good in Star Wars. Like, uh, I feel it. See, we're going to get, we got you guys, right? We got you. I do want to talk about, I do want to talk about and all. Like, I do. Yeah. I want to see it. I also finish watching it. I keep hearing really good things about it. Jesus Christ. It wouldn't surprise me if the half that's ended up extinct by the time the movies took place. There's sheer lack of hygiene and cleanliness as a breeding ground for diseases, just waiting for a pandemic to take the barbaric race out. Oh, don't get our hopes up. They're probably immune. Unfortunately, like, they got this far. The Galadriel pulling out a dagger just appointed a spot on a map is like rags pulling out a gun to point at a super chat. Yeah. The difference is that I actually do that. That makes a lot of sense that I do that. But when, when Galadriel does it, it, a lot of the scenes feel like that mandated. She has to pull out the dagger scene. She has to be holding a weapon, brandishing a weapon, or using a weapon in some way, because that's how, that's how you make characters cool is you just have them having weapons. She is very cool, I would say. I am a. Very cool. Uh, two. Lad Longus Bungleton of Moob Tube Avenue. Is there any chance of a monk fap of Peepie Dackelson's big monkey movie when there's less going on? It would be a Harambe of the Ages. Dicks out for frongold. I thought at first, when they said monk, they were talking about the shark monk. I thought so too. There's a jungle out there. Monk. I, uh, yes. Long Kong, I assume, Pipo Jackson Long Kong is going to happen at some point. Yes. Picture a little Pipo that looks like Peter Jackson now. Did you know when did the, when the did the Spanish dub of Stuart Little, the renamed him to Small Hondro? Small Hondro. Small Hondro. Small Hondro. Really? Apparently. It's actually pretty funny. Small Hondro. I can believe that. Small Hondro. So. Harfords. Our hearts are even bigger than our feet. Also, Harfords, if you can't keep up, we won't think twice about leaving you behind and letting you die. Yep. Sabotaging you. I don't know how you miss this as a writer. Like, how? How do you miss that? Yeah. Like, maybe if you want to make them somewhat sympathetic, don't make them also evil. I just, this stuff like that all over the place, it's just the inverse of when you find the little cool connections of old dialogue with new or different things, like a, like an action that represents an overall point of view the character has. You go, oh, that's cool. This is just the opposite of that. We are like, guys, did you catch that? They said this, but they do that. Like, dude. No? That's kind of weird, right, guys? It's kind of really strange, isn't it, y'all? Feels like that's not your intention that there's like, oh, whatever it's done. Makes you think, what were they, what were they trying to do when they wrote that line? What was the intention of the, of the writer? Yeah. I guess. I don't know. What do you, what did you want me to think? And did you want me to forget about it in five minutes? Yes. You must have. You must have thought that I'd forget about it in five minutes, but I didn't see. I know those words were said. Exactly. Like you, I actually watched your story and paid attention to what happened, which seems to be my mistake. Yes. Yeah. Sorry. For giving a shit. I don't know, like, good stories just seem to, more often than not, not be flukes. They're like deliberately crafted in a way where, like, what they evoke out of the audience is very much intended and like, was part of the plan. Yeah. And deliberately, all of everything, like coalesced in favor of realizing that. I don't know. It would be strange to accidentally make a good story. Yeah. Yeah. It really does feel like that. Like that it's way more likely that you accidentally make something. Because nobody wants to make anything bad for it. Have you watched Apple's foundation series, two storylines happening in parallel and it seems like they're both by different writers and directors. One of them is significantly better than much better acted. So Apple TV is making a foundation series as an Isaac Asimov's foundation series. Oh yeah, I've heard of that. I've heard of that. Yeah. Oh, that would be an interesting story or book series to adapt. But it would simultaneously be something that would be easily destroyed, presumably. Absolutely. The way that it's structured, huge gaps in time, huge different. It's almost like an anthology. Well, they just said there's two storylines happening at once and one of them is bad, one of them is good in terms of executions. Oh. Hey, maybe it is multiple writers or maybe they're just not consistently good. I don't know. Dude, imagine you had a show like that, that it was about two different eras and it was run by two different directors and it was like rings of power and Lord of the Rings, like back and back. You should be like, oh my god. What kind of experience would that be? Do you continue? Brain shock. Yeah. For a fellow fan of Avantasia and Power Wolf, Rhapsody of Fire is pretty sweet too, I guess. But how do you feel about Nanowar of Steel? Also, check out Aerion. The day the world breaks down is longer than the Scarecrow. Oh, no, I haven't even heard of Aerion. But Nanowar of Steel sounds vaguely familiar. I always feel bad for the metal fans who expect that I'm much more familiar than expected. It sounds like the title of a Joseph Anderson book, Nanowar of Steel. I don't know. I think that's better than what he would. He interstellar marines. Like interstellar marines is very, it's, it is not the most generic possible thing that you could make as a parody of science fiction at all. Do you know, because Rags, you watched, I showed Rags the first scene with Odin and Thor, so he's seen that. Apparently, Joseph Anderson, when he was playing it, he asked, why wouldn't Kratos take the Odin deal? It was a good deal. I'm not familiar with what the sun is doing, so I couldn't say myself. Well, so the thing is like, even with zero context, could you speculate even why he might not take the deal? Well, he doesn't want people controlling him, telling him what to do, and he doesn't know if he could trust these people. Plus, if Mimir has probably told him that this guy's a liar. Rags, for the record, has played zero of God of War. Wait, I assume that's right. Listen, guys. You nailed it, that's it. Here's my experience with Ragnarok. I've literally seen this one scene. That's literally it. Mahler and I were just hanging out and he said, hey, check this out. I want to get your thoughts. And so I watched that scene and that was, that's all I know. I don't know anything else. I have no idea what happens. I just assume that's obviously what's going on here. It takes like one brain cell and basic good faith to be like, Kratos probably doesn't trust him. You know? Yeah, like it's kind of baffling that he would say, why didn't Kratos take the deal? It's like, oh, I don't know, man. Where do we start? It's all I've seen. I don't know. It's all self. It seems pretty self-contained. Yeah. Almost the entirety of your adventures through 2018, you find and discover and are told information of how Odin is a liar, basically. Everything he does is lies. I mean, Mimir, I guess that's, I think that's his name. He says, specifically in that scene that Odin just lies. That's all he does is lie. If Odin tells you the sky is blue, he's lying. And a big thing from Kratos is he has got really no reason to distrust Mimir. Like, he has been nothing but helpful to him. He trusts him. And the fact that he doesn't trust Odin, like, that's enough. Among many other factors, I can't believe that he would have said, why didn't he take the deal? Like, how do you, like, I feel like you're not even like engaging with the story. I think, like I said, I didn't even, I was partially bewildered that he would even say it because I was like, well, even if I didn't know the characters and the story, I could probably imagine plenty of reasons for someone to say I don't want to take this deal. Like, it just seems pretty straightforward. But um, compare Supernatural legal shows. She-Hulk versus Angel Season 5. There is some legal stuff in Angel Season 5, but it's not really focused on it at all. But it probably would. Neither She-Hulk. That's what the riot is, probably. She-Hulk kind of thinks it is, though. That's a thing. It's weird, yeah. It's uh, really bad. Uh, Wong's behavior is completely consistent. He's secretly a Skrull. Oh. Maybe he will be. Who knows who's going to be revealed to be a Skrull all along in Secret Invasion. I'm sure that show won't have massive world-building implications. Also, with Magic being discovered thousands of years ago, wouldn't any copyright expire? These people are abusing legal terms more than Ant-Man abuses quantum mechanics. What does it even mean to impose copyright on like a system? Yeah, like a- Some force of the universe. Yeah, like copyright gravity. Like copyright over gravity. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so how do you do that? I have copyright over thermodynamics, like thermodynamics. Or I have copyright over, I don't know, chemistry. Just like as a discipline. Man, you'd be making shit tons of money with that. And even if you enforce it in the United States, like, yeah, cool, bro. And even if you probably only be in a specific state, even if you've gotten all of America, it's like, yeah, there's like another 200 countries that you would have to deal with. Why don't you just like not get, sorry, no, we talked about that show. It's done. It's done. We will never, ever talk about it again until the next super chat. Hopefully. Or, yeah, well, yeah, because they're all about it. They make one. Well, if they do, yeah, which who knows, like, that probably is the one that had the worst response, like of anything they made, right? Like at least as far as probably be concerned. I guess what I mean is I would say yes. Probably their worst response because people hated it when it was coming out, which is not the case for most, like, and Thor, right? Thor probably was another example of. Yeah, Thor is probably a runner up. Yeah. Whereas they probably look at Multiverse and go, oh, it's okay. You know, it wasn't as good as we hoped, but it was okay. I bet. That's funny. I know you're not a fan of musicals, but have you considered watching La La Land from writer-director of Whiplash? The writing is pretty strong. And in, and in, oh, sorry, and is Stella in all of the categories. I typically don't like musicals, but it's one of my favorite movies. I hadn't thought about that one. I don't know anything about it. A bit of praise for La La Land here and there. How do we feel about La La Land? If you remember, La La Land was the film that they erroneously gave best picture to when it was actually Moon, Moonlight. Yeah, Moonlight one. Right. What do you mean they erroneously gave it to? Oh, do you know what? So at the Oscars, they were like, oh, the best film that, you know, the Oscar for best film, La La Land. And then they get up on stage and talk and it's like, no, wait, no, it was Moonlight is best picture. You didn't win a Moonlight one. They gave it to the wrong people. They said the wrong card or they read it wrong? Well, he had the wrong card. The card actually was for best like actress and it was for Emma Stone in the film. And like he read it as them having won the best picture. Oh, you have one job. Just read the cards. Well, the funny part is that I think there were two of them up there and the guy kind of hesitated because he was looking at it and probably confused. And then I think the person next to him read it out. Oh, I see. Tragic. But this was, oh, I feel like that happened with something else. Somebody was supposed to get an award and they read it wrong. What? Oh, I remember that there was a, I remember it was, this is such an obscure reference, but I remember it. There was a show called Australia's Next Top Model where like they, the runner-up was declared the winner and then they had to like go like, oh, wait, no, whoops. We didn't win. They won. It's just mine now, bitch. I'm keeping it. Just awkward for everyone involved. Well, yeah, exactly. It's like, it's an honest mistake, but like, man, sucks. You thought you won and you lost. Like, cool. I saw them. I asked for the takes on it. We got like a mix of it's great. It's okay. It's not very good. I liked it overrated and then someone said La La Land is where the Teletubbies live. I think, is that true? I thought La La was just one of the Teletubbies. I thought La La. Yeah. Well, I could, I could look it up. I'll bring you telling a story. Did either of you watch First Man? It was from the guy who did La La Land and Whiplash. I did actually, yeah. What did you think of it? I think it's like met generally, but I really like the moon like sequence. I thought that was pretty great. I don't know that. Yesterday. I've forgotten a lot of it. It didn't do anything to me, part-wise. So for me, the moon landing stuff was much more like spectacle and like filmmaking. I thought that was really impressive as a sequence. Like that part, I remember pretty distinctly. But yeah, like the rest of the movie is more like whiplash, man. Like whiplash. It's so great. Yeah, yeah. But I hear La La Land's really good. So maybe that's worth looking at. I didn't see the same man movie that you guys did. But yesterday, I saw a movie that I thought was pretty meh, Local Hero from 1983. That was pretty meh. Anyway, to answer the Teletubby question, the TQ, Teletubbies live in the appropriately named Teletubby land, which is like calling where I live, America land. No, it's just American land. Where the Americans live. I guess it would be like calling a human land, right? Because it's all humans. Sort of. I guess, yeah. So that's the thing. Are the Teletubbies a species or is that their tribe name and that they've killed all other? Well, I assume my head cannon is that each of the Teletubbies, Tinky Winky, Dipsy, La La and Poe, because they are different colors and Dipsy does seem to be a different shade of flesh that they are from. Their last surviving members are from the Teletubbies. Their last surviving members are four different tribes as they live in a radically barbaric and feudal sort of system. They found peace to so much war. Yeah, they all were brought together by the grief of having the tribes wiped out and so they banded together. Another very interesting fact, as you all know, do you know what the name of the dome, the sci-fi shire place that they live, their house? Do you know what it's called? No, I can't say I do. It is called the Tubbytronic Superdome. See, there's a lot of tech being involved in their existence that begs questions. Let's put it that way. Well, I mean, yeah, they got TVs and their bellies. They have cyborgs. And I'm going to give you another very fun fact that I just happened to click here. Under the People Also Ask section that Google has, the question is, is the Teletubby house real? And while it's, of course, real to all of us, the answer is the Teletubby's famous home is now a pond after the owners got fed up with tourists. The iconic Tubby home has been filled with water as the show celebrates 20 years since it hit our screens. The Sloping Green Hill and Wimps Stone Works was home to tinky-winky Dipsy La La Unpo from March of 97 until 2001. So unlike the shire, it seems that the owners got so fed up with tourists that they just leveled it and turned into a pond. Fair enough, I guess. And why do we cry? Because it was real. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. There's the question beneath this is why did tinky-winky get fired? Oh my God, he got fired. He got fired. Okay. Original tinky-winky actor Dave Thompson left the show after the first few episodes following creative differences. How many creative differences? Just bounce around in your costume and make noise, you freak. Creative differences. Like, oh, I really wanted to take tinky-winky into a more renaissance man philosopher kind of angle. Well, it's like Humble Bee Man when he's like, I just don't, you know, it's like trying to create like art here. Well, yeah, you like jump to the side. He's like, I just don't think tinky-winky would do that. I just, I feel like he's, he's a changed man. He's a different man. He'd say, oh, really? Yeah, after his tribe was executed, then as a last survivor, I feel like that would affect his character. Dude, this is like an episode where he discovers like ancient tablets that describe the great war and his tribe having been annihilated by Pose tribe. Well, you're out there. Posey reminisces on his lost life and his family and friends. All the four telly tummies. Screaming as well. Well, it's going to be Vietnam flashback. What flashes and screaming as heavy? You and I are taking different angles because in my mind, we've got the four telly tummies and they're out and they're dancing and singing and having a great time and everything's wonderful and the babies let sun god is laughing. And then we have that Milan moment where they're singing and then they come across the remnants of the battle and they just cross over a hill and it's like a mass cream. And the music stops. The again, that inspires like a different story in my mind of like they have a guest. You know, because they sometimes have guest humans or whatever. It's just like a he was really happy and they discover that. The second any of them discover the mass grave, the telly have to kill them. It's like you wanted too far. But it was too. I'm going to have to post this that caught me off guard. That's an imagery to think of. So first off, the tinky winkies are fucking bigger than I thought they were. The tinky winkies are big. I'm sorry. I meant the telly tummies. The telly tummies are bigger than I thought for whatever. I don't know why that should surprise me, but it does because I know there's adults in there. So I guess they are adult size, but I guess I imagined them much smaller for whatever reason. The point being was that the thing I was reading about the tinky winky actor, Dave Thomas getting fired following creative differences. This article here says that it was later reported that the show's production company had implied the character was gay. He didn't want that. He was like, no, tinky winky is not gay. Yeah, some disgruntled viewers claimed the character was gay as he carried a red handbag. With a U.S. evangelist warning parents that the lovable purple alien was the gay pride color while his triangle antenna was the gay pride symbol. He's the gay one because he has a red bag. To be fair, that's pretty impeccable logic. I like how their mind went instead to he went straight to he's gay instead of, oh, it's probably a girl then, I guess, right? Kind of tinky winky being a girl. It's better that he's gay than he's a girl. Also, that's not allowed. As well as like, you can be inspired and entertained by this psycho alien horrible monster thing, but not if he's gay. What's amazing is they have a picture here and it just screams gay to me. I don't know about y'all, but this is the gayest tinky winky. Oh, oh my goodness. This is a legendary show. There's so much to dig out of it. What a rabbit hole this is. I mean, I mean, there are lots of rabbits in Teletubby land, so it does make sense. Yeah, in a sense. Hey, look at those eyes. He seems so much. His land is being ravaged by so much war. He's broken Teletubby. That hat bag was his mother's. He hangs onto a memory of what was. So what was lost? So so the fired tinky winky with the creative differences. Dave Thompson, he said he was proud of his time in the role. He went on to have a successful comedy career replaced by Simon Shelton, who was a trained ballet dancer and choreographer. Now we know tinky winky's gay. Simon said he received fan mail from kids and parents and said the speculation surrounding tinky winky sexual orientation was really quite silly. I got to finish this. This is the part that, sadly, he died from a hypothermia in January 2018 at the age of 52. Damn. How did you die of hypothermia? Like that happens, but wow, that's weird. Is he climbing a mountain or some shit? I don't know. That's all it said. That's that's interesting. Best in peace, tinky winky, the gay alien. That is wow. So anyway, what was the super chat? I don't know what one caused that to happen. Have you ever seriously considered permanently ending EFAP for any reason? Well, the only time we'd be considered is what would happen if something horrible happened to one of us three, sort of thing. Because I think all three of us would be happy to just talking about movies and video games and stuff. Yeah, because that's all EFAP ultimately is. And I've done that. I think I've told you before EFAP was like my fifth, either fourth or fifth podcast, and it finally worked sort of thing. But they were all the same. They were all just me talking about media. Like, so it's just trying to find a format that worked better with the right people sort of thing. But the fact is, like, if for example, I think we talked before, but if I got hit by a big old van or something and you guys had all of the materials to be able to stream it, I think I'd be okay with you guys carrying it on. It's just really up to you guys if you'd even want to at that point or not. Or if you'd rather make something new. I wouldn't call it, I would, I would carry on doing podcasts, but I wouldn't call it EFAP. I feel like it would become something else. I feel like it, it would just, it's like Top Gear without Richard Hammond and Jeremy Clarkson and James May. You know, it's just like, you can call it Top Gear, but is it really? Yeah, no, I wouldn't do it. It's like, why not just start a new show so that it's all, it's all contained. It was a big old arc and it ends with the, one of the bigger contributors, you know, being unable to contribute anymore sort of thing. Dying of hypothermia, yeah. I bloody hope not, then again. If I was to be hit by a van or die of hypothermia, which would you prefer? It's probably the van, right? That'll be faster. The van, it probably happens, yeah, really quick. You don't see it coming. Well, we talked about it on the yeah. Found destination, right? We had the girls who were really, the only thing they were characterised by was they liked sex and then they were kind and then they got killed horribly over a long period of time. Meanwhile, several of the like asshole characters get insta-killed to the point where they don't even know they're dead before they're dead. Yeah, they just stop existing, yeah. It's like, it's not fair. Yeah, it's like it would fix the movies, but if they, how can you not get basic shit like that, right? Where the worst characters get the worst deaths? Yeah. Basic shit. And yeah, I don't like that. Unsatisfying things like that can really ruin a movie for me. It just seems being spirited. I agree. I forgot in my last chat for the first ever super chat, I said I liked season one, that season two has issues. The season two was oh, three was okay. Upon reflection, there's some good stuff in two, but still like a 3.5 out of 10. I've completely turned on three. How did I not think about how they build the base without anyone noticing it would have taken years to build? I have no idea what we're talking about yet, by the way. With at least a mile digging down. Oh, now I know what it is, Stranger Things. Hopper was ruined, a two out of 10 being generous. However, season four somehow managed to redeem the show. Eddie was a spectacular character, six out of 10, I think is what they're saying, which is probably somewhere near what I would settle on, because there's plenty of problems in Stranger Things season four, but it was a fun watch compared to two and three. All right, turn it up. Laird Lungbans of Mewbly Road. Can you do a Kung-Fap? Peter Long's one sometime. It'd be fapped for ages. I'm feeling like a lot of people are asking for this now. It's getting around, you know? The Kung-Fap. The Long Kong. I just don't know what they're going to do when we finally release it. I dare say it might be an E-Fap for the ages. You know, for Eddie, better fucking be. Dear Mola, your high welshitude, send us Sir Philip A.H. for acclaimed Red Dragon, Silence of the Lamb's West World, and the Marvelous Father. Why on God's Green Earth did you justify? Do you justify to send us Panath's morbid plaque pest as her name rings as Cower? It's a very strangely written thing, but a lot of that was not the words that I ended up going with. But yes, I understand. It was written oddly. That was the price for Anthony Hopkins. I'm sorry. That's how it works. I'll just have them for free. I have to have some other actors, right? I figured it out. The secret of Fringy's goo, the evidence is Fringy himself. It causes liver failure, green skin pigmentation, spontaneous beak growth, and simultaneous frog and bird transformation followed by delusions of being a plague doctor. That's interesting. I mean, that's an interesting sort of like fan fiction, but that's just, you know. You should get diagnosed. So not assessed. We don't know that he has it, right? Oh, we know he's got it. You know, we got something. Yeah, he's got something going on. It'd be too much like of a particular drink or something. Lay off the, the, maybe he's drinking his own goo. I don't know. Oh, that could be interesting. Rarely is the main character so awful that I'm starting to side with Sauron. No clue what he's like, but at least Sauron, people value their dead instead of leaving someone to die because of a limp. Also, Sauron wasn't in, wasn't at least, why is this written? Sauron at least isn't autistic in social situations. There we go. Allegedly. I mean, we got another four seasons of watching that man do his thing. So I can't believe it. Four more seasons. I would be curious what they're, what they're going to do if season two has the exact same performance and reaction. That's got to change something, right? Even this one season is probably enough to change some things like big zone. I would be thinking so. Because you always get, you know, you can get the, you can pay off the shill article writers from this site and that site to talk about how, oh, it fixes so much from Lord of the Rings and oh, like it's so empowering and it's so great and wonder, but like people just aren't, people don't buy that shit. At least a lot of them don't. Nobody just talks about it. Nobody, it's already. That's done. What can you talk about? Man, didn't you love character? One of them? I don't know, maybe. I really liked when, um, collateral jumped into the ocean. That was fun. Weird choice by a party. I think it's the environmental save the forest message. Look how we affect the planet. If you're talking about the volcano in, in Rings of Power, I doubt it. I don't, I doubt that that's an environmental message, especially because of how it happens. I don't see how that can, I don't see how that relates to, like, our actions. Don't let your hobos stab his spooky health. Swords into strange damn mechanisms and let orcs build massive tunnels or ditches. Yeah, I'd find it difficult to find an allegory for that. That's one of those ones where you're pulling pieces out of it because you're just like, I don't know, it's a volcano, right? And it's like, yeah, but. Also, I don't think humans cause volcanoes. Well, I think those are a pretty natural affair. I certainly don't mean to. All right. If there's a volcano near me and I set it off or whatever, it's like, I didn't know. I don't know what I, I don't know if I could be trusted with that kind of power to create volcanoes. Have you seen Andal yet? We actually get to see the motivation of characters. We're breaking new ground with Disney stars. It's still not a 10th as good as hot D, but it's progress. Hi, Rags. Hello. I agree. It's definitely progress. It is progress. Hard soft magic is bound to the amount of knowledge that's given about the magic system. Tolkien has written down the whole system, but this knowledge is not given in Lord of the Rings. So for Lord of the Rings, it is even softer than Harry Potter. Yeah, I think that's, that's what we, didn't we conclude that Rags? This is what we were talking to. Yeah, yeah. A little between because our understanding of soft more rules harder it is. Yeah. Yeah. And if you watch the Lord of the Rings movies on their own, there's barely anything you can get in terms of rules for. Yeah. It's it's simultaneously its strength and its weakness very kind of up in the air as to what you can do and when you can do it. But yeah, that was definitely surprising to hear him say that because pretty much everyone I know and all of us, we all understand a hard magic system to be more structured with more rules and more stipulations. Essentially, the closer it is to an established science and a craft. Yeah, like if it said like there's only one spell in the world and is to levitate any object of any size with a maximum of this weight for five seconds and you can only do it once per day. You're like, whoa, it's extremely hard. Yeah, it's extremely hard. It's super hard. Yeah. Meanwhile, like Harry Potter, I can understand people calling it soft, but it has more rules in it. It's pretty hard. I think. Yeah. Compared to, I mean a lot of stuff. Yeah. I think the problem is that there are too many of these rules and I think that's where, yeah. I think it's not that it's harder soft. It's that there's just too much stuff that seem like they interfere with plots and stories and things. And I think it's gone to the point as well with, because we'll try and maybe check them out at some point and give out takes, but I'm pretty sure there's a lot of overlap with rules where you're like, wait a minute. So someone mentioned it, but alchemy and full metal alchemist is a hard magic. And yeah, that's a very hard it is essentially, it's treated no different than asciences. That has to be studied and understood. It's a very hard system. Yeah. Knowing that Gimli wanted Sam and Frodo dead the whole time, was there any time during the fellowship where he could have carried out grizzly murder on one or both of them and just got away with it? Probably. He probably could have done it. I don't know if he could get away with it. If you keep an eye on him in all the scenes, so a few times where he has a few glances at Frodo and Sam just scowls at them and you can tell he's planning it, I think. Yeah, they're like, how come Gimli looks at the, how come Gimli looks at Frodo like Boromir looks at the ring? That's kind of weird. Yeah. And if you remember when they're like, oh, you know, let's go save the hobbits. Gimli's like, oh, yep, let's go do it because he knows that means they're not going to help Sam and Frodo. And so he's like, that'll definitely make him die. It'll be great. It's all coming together. And then in Return of the King he finds out they survived and he's like, what the fuck? That makes no sense. And yeah, what guy could have been more definitive when he had the chance, I think. Shout out. There's an amazing Harry Potter fanfic book written by an AI researcher who basically wanted to fix the universe while preserving a lot of its aspects but making them a lot more, make them a lot more make, making a lot of them make sense a lot more. Interesting. The methods of rationality. I guess that's the name of what it's called. Also a high chat. Oh. If you had the choice of becoming a ghost after death, would you? Being a ghost in this scenario simply entails that you would only be able to move around and observe freely while you can still retain your mental faculties as if you were in your prime. I don't know. It's tough. If the question would be like, is that or infinite nothingness? I'd probably go for the infinite nothingness of death because I'd be worried that am I doomed to be that forever if I decide on the ghost? Exactly. Yeah. And I don't want to take that choice away from myself because I only have it once, sort of, you know. But it could be fun for a bit. You get to observe like all the crazy and awesome events throughout the world and you'll know more than you ever would have and stuff, answer some questions you've always had. But yeah, without then again, you can't do anything about anything you learn. Yeah. If there's no way to influence things or do anything, if you don't have any agency and it's purely passive, you know, just sort of observing things. Yeah, that's that's a that's a really tough call. Yeah. Did you see Andor? It was OK at best. The real problem with the show is that we haven't seen Veda, Ahsoka, Kenobi, Boba Fett, Palpatine, Bo-Katan, Maul, Rex, Cody, Tarkin, Luke, Yoda, and Mace Windu. It could be a good show if those characters had cameos. Well, yeah, let's hope they get all Maul in in the last episode because otherwise, the show will be shit. It will be. Because it can How do you make good Star Wars without Luke Skywalker and lightsabers and Darth Vader and Boba Fett? I have heard. It simply can't be done. But that is a take, apparently. The show is not very good because it doesn't have enough lightsabers and Star Wars theory or something like that. Possibly. The funny thing for us is I think I think we go way further even that our audience is ready for. Like if they didn't, if they just had, you know, John, some guy called John and he was working nine till five and the whole show was about that. There's not a single reference to even an alien. We don't even find out what planet he's on. It could just be Earth. If it was just really good and they said this was Star Wars, by the way, we probably like that was neat. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's interesting that that was Star Wars. But all right, if it's a good story, it's a good story. You know, exactly. If you took exactly what Blimey Manor was, but instead of, you know, contemporary ish England, it was, you know, just to planet on some Star Wars world. Then I'm like, I mean, it's a good story. I don't know how this does before it goes. But yeah, it's a good story. And what's interesting to think about as well is you could do all that and people could be so invested in this guy called John and he gets a resolution on whatever like issues he's having with maybe the work or just the people in the bar that he's running. And then like, you give that thing right at the end where last episode, maybe not even post-credits seem just the final thing. He concludes it all of his stuff and then a Jedi just bursts in looking for cover because he'd be in chase, he's been hunted down and that's the set up for season two. It's like, there you go, okay. Now it's, this is how it fits into the Star Wars universe here. You're rabid. Stuff like that's interesting to think about. It's funny because you might think I'm joking, but I guess what I'm trying to say is like, you get them to like the character first and then you start involving Star Wars stuff. Exactly. Get the story set, established, and then at the very end go. Oh, by the way, this isn't the Star Wars universe. I think that would excite people. It's kind of the same as what's going on with the God of War games where it's just like, ooh, they said Heimdall. I know that name. It's like he's going to be able to beat Kratos at some point. You're like, yeah, how neat is it? Lord Longbong of Mewbchlington Abbey. Is there any chance of a Kongfap of Nintendo's Donkey Kong when there's less going on? There'd be an e-fap for the ages. Which Donkey Kong game though? Well, unless they're talking about the soon to come Peter Jackson, Donkey Kong movie, I hope they're making. Or, I guess, DK's Adventures in the Mario movie. Seth Rogen, DK. Oh, fucking no. Such a meme. Why did they do it? I don't know. I don't know. Because you guys know Seth Rogen. I got it. What if we had to beat our words? We're like, actually, that was an amazing casting choice. Then I guess we will if that happens. You see as I'll say that for you, is there a chance? I mean, it's always possible. I just don't really have much faith that that will be anything other than like, I don't know, fine, at best. But maybe it'll, maybe it'll blow me away. Who knows? Yeah. I think the most it'll get to is tolerable. I'll be like, fine, but... I'll need to take mushrooms. Mushroom kingdom. Grow twice my size. Fun exercise. Pick a Buffy episode. Replace Buffy with Jennifer Walters and then describe what would happen. She'd break the universe and reinstate her own rules so that she doesn't have to deal with crashes, suffering in any way, shape or form. It would be great. Now the same thing she'd do in every single show she's in. Right. Now we've season two when they do the exact same payoff in the finale because they're fucking absolutely out of ideas and they're like, oh, you found another way in. Meh. We're gonna have to fix that one too. I hope this doesn't happen again. And then she's like, any word on the X-Men yet? And he's like, stop asking that question. And then everyone laughs because it is so funny. Because it's like kind of like how we ask and then they finally do the X-Men movie and it's fucking horrible. And then everyone is like, we really... I don't know. And then they give him a trailer for the next X-Men and Galactus is in it for some reason. And then they're like, oh my god, actually no, I like it again. Give me. Give me great guys. Dr. Doom. Yeah, we'll be great. This Mephisto. Dang. Shrek the musical lyrics sung by the big bad wolf. They tore my cotton granny dress and called me a hot and... I can't say that. Pretty sure I can get bad to say that. I don't even know anymore. Yes, these are real. Is that actually a real quote? Because I'm assuming Shrek the musical. I've got no clue what it is. So I assume there's a... I guess there's a musical for it. It depends on when it came out. But if it's edgy like the first movie is a little bit... I was about to say, it might be real if it's older. I could believe it's real. What's the first letter? Can you just post it in the chat for the rest of your host? Is that what it was? We... I've not that invested. It's fine. We can... Okay. If forced to live in the following options, what would you choose? Pakistan or a physical manifestation of Twitter? Oh. Oh, that's like a... So Pakistan or San Francisco? A physical manifestation of Twitter would probably be like a big, a huge building filled with like thousands of rooms. And every room is... There's several people in there. And every time you say anything, many people will show up and possibly shout at you, right? We're talking about Pakistan or... I don't see how you could possibly think what I just said was Pakistan. But I... Oh. All right. I... Your ability to escape Twitter is probably quite easy, though. If you can just walk out of the building, yeah. Because if it's a physical manifestation on Twitter, you can get like expatriated forcefully if you say a... Oh, you're right, yeah. If you say the right words, you can just... Oh, you say the right words, you just get kicked out and you're free. And it's not like that would kill you. Which is like how getting banned on Twitter actually is. Yeah, except Pakistan. Because I probably wouldn't be very well appreciated in Pakistan. So I'm going to go with the Twitter one, probably because it's easy to safely get out Yeah, that's probably true. Dear Lord Mula, thank you for Otto... Thank you for Otto Hightower. This actor... This good actor, sorry. Come from... He will forth. This plays... This balances more with the out, I presume. Thanks to you again. Kisses for our Kazawa. Kazawa? Okay. Scritches for the good boy. Oh, thank you. Yeah, no problem. Otto was great. I can't wait for more of him in season two. Yes. Happy birthday. Happy belated birthday. Hope you could enjoy time with friends. I don't know who that's directed to necessarily. Would it be me? Um... Mine was a month and a half ago, but it's probably still, yeah. I guess that tells us where we are in terms of catching up. I hope God of War goes on for long enough to eventually involve figures from the Abrahamic religions. Imagine a QTE sequence of craters personally nailing Jesus Christ to a cross. This is cinematic. Oh, based in Red Pill. Crucifixion. Well, it's like when we talk about Marvel, they're not gonna canonize like Yahweh or the Christian God. They're not gonna do that. That would be... We'll bring this up. We'll do that. You often have Christians saying like, everyone always makes fun of Christianity, but you're not allowed to make fun of like certain religions and stuff. It's like, I still don't think something like God of War would have the balls to represent Jesus. I don't think it would. They wouldn't want to risk it. They'd be like, no. And to be honest with you, if they suggested it while I was on like the board of directors or whatever, I'd be like, don't do that. That's just gonna piss loads of people off. They would sooner make fun of Jesus than Muhammad. Oh, absolutely. There's a hierarchy, but I still think that there's a level of protection. Yeah, because those people will fucking kill you. If I... If someone like hired me to do it in a way that would like... I would just be like, I don't know if it's gonna work. People don't... I don't think people want to see that. Like the idea that they were gonna have... People don't just no-scape Jesus with being cool. And even Christians who are like, yeah, Jesus is cool. Yeah, being a virgin is really cool. They don't actually think that he's like cool. I think if you portrayed him with like, he teams up with Kratos and he has like, he hits people with a cross or cast spells or whatever. I think some people will be like, this is fun. I like Jesus. Some of the people will be like, this is disrespectful. Jesus is not supposed to be like that. Well, you'd have to have Jesus like tagging along, trying to temper Kratos' mood, you know? He's trying to tell, you know, turn the other cheek and, you know, do this sort of thing. And you don't think about that. That, that, that, that. Wouldn't cross. The worst thing that Jesus would do is flip over some tables, but that's pretty extreme. He worships the table because it's wood and he's a carpenter. Yeah, you could do it. You just probably, there is, there is a way to do it, I'm sure, but. Is a tough one. Why would you like to do it? Especially when you've got so many other options, like just go for Egypt. Do it. Do it. Yeah, do it. Rags will play the next one if you go Egypt, okay? I might. No, you will on this. Is it on, and it's only on PS5, right? It releases on PC until later. Eventually, yeah. Okay. Well, I'm not going to get a PlayStation for it, but with the eventual PC release, I will maybe play it if it's Egyptian-themed. That half-foot hag suggesting they steal their wheels and leave them to die has the same energy as the Orcs in two towers talking about eating just the legs of the hobbits. They don't need their legs. They don't need their wheels. Oh, man, that's really funny. Again, when they're writing that sequence, you need to be like, dude. Do you know what you've just written down? And they're like, yeah, it's kind of fun today. It's a fun like, oh, you take the wheels. It's almost like saying, huh, let's unplug his insulin drip. What a fun prank. What a fun prank, bro. Let's eat his flesh. Yeah, do it. I will say, though, by taking their wheels, it's essentially not just sabotaging someone else. It's increasing your own chances of survival. Now we have extra wheels. That's like a get out of jail free card for death. If our wheels break, we have their wheels to put on our cart, so we're more likely to survive. More. I assume you're a good writer, but I haven't seen you publish any fiction. Have you thought about writing for the rip of it? I can't imagine it not turning out great. I haven't got time to even write small stuff. We'll just screw around. I can barely write emails. I am too busy writing. If I'm writing anything as scripts, and those, as you guys know, are some of them are complete and video-less. That needs to be remedied. So if I enter a point in my life where I'm writing, it's going to be probably to at least try and write something of my own sort of thing. Yeah, that's... Obviously, I wish the best for the rip of this. It looks like it's going to be cool. Yeah. In light of PayPal's recent announcement, I can no longer justify using their service, so this is my last stream labs. It's inconvenient, but it's time to find better ways for us to exchange value that are actually in line with our principles. Yeah, I mean, what we've got set up, is the... Well, you have Super Chat's Patreon, SubscribeStar, and Streamlabs. So if all four of those are unacceptable, I'm not actually sure if there's another more viable alternative. Yeah, those are all pretty good options. Obviously, don't worry about it. If you find that there's no ethical way to get money to us that you would like to, you don't have to pay. Just leave it. It's all right. The view is all off. Second-minute envelope. Yeah, just put your money in an envelope. Always a solid idea. Link shot it. Yeah, like, right. Stick it to a boomerang and write Fringy's House on it. 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney. And then just throw that bit. What? A Finding Nemo reference, nice. Oh, you know, what's interesting too is that randomly on Friday morning, for whatever reason I was thinking about Finding Nemo, it was Dory's swimming song that for whatever reason popped into my head. And I was thinking, is it a contrivance that the address to the, you know, Nemo's kidnapper just happened to be on the goggles that fell into the water and he just so happened to find one of the only fish who can read English in order to track him down? Is that like a huge contrivance? It sounds like you've already concluded whether or not the answer to that question is yet. But I'm at, well, maybe, but that's why I'm asking. That's, I'm legitimately asking the question because I'm capable of changing my mind. Without, with how you've described it, I'd say, yes, I just, I'd need to re-see it, see if there's anything else that could- It's like, I think, because I really like that movie, but I think I'm accurately portraying the events in my retelling here. But I don't know, maybe there's some I missed, but I think so. It helps that it's sort of like the inciting incident. So that gives it a little bit of a, you know, pass to start a story about it. But I don't know, just fish thoughts or whatever. I never saw Finding Dory. I don't know anything about it. I don't know if it's good or not. I don't know anything about Finding Dory. Of the major God of War games, what you say is the most flawed writing-wise. I would rule out 2018 Ragnarok and God of War 1. It is between God of War 2 and 3. Three, because it kind of goes back on a lot of what God of War 2 sets up. This is something that several people in chat were telling me about as I was playing it, and I hadn't thought about it before. But a couple things, including we're not limited to, they set up all the Titan stuff, and then the Titan stuff becomes completely irrelevant almost in the third game. Not like completely, but you probably understand what I'm saying if you've played them. Also flipping Gaia to become a villain almost. It was a really strange choice. Then the stuff with Kalypia Pandora was pretty cringe. The big resolution at the end, they say the word hope way too much. Like it couldn't be more obvious what they're going for, and for some reason they think you haven't picked it up. But there's that. But God of War 2 has, I think, the biggest writing flaw across all of God of War, which is Kratos' family was killed. He killed them because of a god tricking him. It was the most horrible event of his life. It's basically defined everything everywhere all at once. He has the chance to go back in time and stop Zeus from stabbing him way later than when that happened. And he doesn't think to himself, I should probably go back in time and save my family. He's the God of War, not the God of Wisdom. Well, and so that was a sort of a thing that was highlighted. Then it's like, okay, but maybe there's someone I missed. Maybe this is like, what did the writers say? And apparently they said he was too angry to think about that. We've all been there. We've all been, listen guys, there's a few things that you should know about life. Two primary rules. Don't go to the grocery store when you're hungry. And don't step into a time machine when you're angry. Very simple rules to live by. If you follow these rules, you will live a long and fruitful life full of happiness and satisfaction. And so it's hard to say it's between two and three. Three seems to have more flaws, but they're not like nobody's, nobody's God of War game is going to beat out that flaw. That's, I would argue that's the biggest flaw in all of God of War because it's like the games themselves, the Kratos' consistent characterization is the best thread they've got. And so dramatic damage to that is really bad. Mollard is very clear that Rags is an old doggo at this point. Biden moments would be expected. 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The SFM one was based off the original so whichever one you think you'd like more. Oh, okay. It's it's it's pretty fine. It's a minute. You know, you do that later. Then you'll be up to date on all the means. I can't be out of date. That would be ridiculous. I'm doing a joint replay of God of War 3 and 2018 to prep for rags and a rock. It's nice to jump between the two and appreciate the stark differences, but also how much the pure God of War DNA throughline carries on. Thanks to the years of unparalleled content, Benedict Long. Well, thank you. And yeah, it's kind of neat how a transfer of gameplay mechanics so dramatically can still maintain a lot of what you'd expect to be there. A friend of mine just moved from God of War 3 to 2018 and was saying it's so neat that they still had the light, light, heavy when you get the blades of chaos in 2018. It's still there even though it's different controls and a different point of view and stuff. It's like, yep, they kept it. Sorry, because they knew that players would want to do that. What do you find more dramatic or jarring? The change from traditional Resident Evil 2 Resident Evil 4 or the change from traditional God of War to God of War 2018? The over the shoulder change is the most obvious, but what about all the other details in terms of gameplay and story? Resident Evil 4 was my first Resident Evil and I haven't played any of the God of War games, so I literally cannot answer this question. I'm one of the best pose to answer this question, I think. That must have ringy. I've played more than I realize. Of what? Resident Evil? Yeah, because classic Resident Evil to Resident Evil 4 is quite a dramatic change, but... I haven't played any of those games though. I haven't played like 1, 2, 3, or... I haven't played a lot of Resident Evil. But is it more dramatic than God of War 3 to 2018? That is an interesting question. Hard to say actually. Because the thing is, it depends on who you talk to, I think, would tell you... Like I said, I've talked to people before who've said that Resident Evil 4 destroyed Resident Evil and then there's plenty of people who say God of War's new direction is destroying God of War as a franchise. The village DLC was so disappointing, there's no way that any of us three are playing that shit. Like we're done with the village. Oh, fuck that game. There's no way I'm playing that game again. That game sucked. It's funny because I was about to say, yeah, definitely soured over time. I was like, no, I'm pretty sure we were pretty harsh to it at the time, would we? We were very harsh to it. That game sucked. How could you be so weak? The fact that everyone thinks it's so great is legitimately depressing. It's why we're never... We are never going to get another Resident Evil 4 again because fuck having good gameplay is funny because you're thinking of gameplay. My mind is just going to how much of a loss potentially was in the story. There's so much they could have done. Also that, yeah. But yeah, I don't know. If I was to go with one, I'd probably go with Resident Evil. I think if you jumped from Resident Evil 1 to Resident Evil 4, that's... You're going to be like, what the hell? Because it's like... At least when you go to 2018 from God of War 3, all of it's assuming you've just come from God of War 3 and so there's ways it tries to ease that through storytelling and stuff. But Resident Evil 4 doesn't care about Resident Evil 1. And I don't mean that in the sense that it's disrespecting it. I just mean it in the sense that it's doing its own thing. It's just like... You could be playing something from a different franchise at that point, I guess is what I'm saying. Mola, rags and freaky. Say the line from Bruce Wayne in BVS about if there's even a 1% chance in your best Wonder Woman impression. If there is... If there is even a 1% chance. That's probably how she would do it. If there's even a 1% chance to fill the Nile, we must take the Champagne as absolute certainty. I think... Yeah, it's... Oh, man. She's a really bad actress. Yes, she's very bad. I guess it's just the delivery is baffling. It doesn't be like... If there is even a 1% chance that's... Evil is our enemy. We have to take it. You remember the delivery in Wonder Woman 1984 when she jumps onto the car? She's like talking to Pedro Pascal and she's like, I need you to give me this stone. It's a very nice stone. I don't know. It's just like the worst that you could have delivered that line. Remember the mentor dies and she's like, no. No. It's just... And then of course, who could forget? Who could forget the classic? The piece de resistance. I can't believe that people are like, oh, they fixed it. They fixed it. They took one of the other tanks and it was still shit. This is incredible. Geez. The cope. Dude, remember when we pointed this out, people were like, wow, you're making fun of your accent? It's like, no, you fools. Making fun of all of it. The fact that... Like, I don't know why anybody would say that as if they're on... Not everyone... No, yeah, you're right. Surely not everyone from that part of the world sounds that awful. It can't be. Fundamentally, there are plenty of actors who English as a second language clearly and like the delivery is still great. Like, you know, it's not the accent. Yeah, I don't know. That was cope back then, but I think everyone's come to conclude she's going like what that's that's not accent. That's like, why would you say it like that? You know? Like, why would you deliver that line like that? Dude, so that I bet she can act better like I bet she can act better in Hebrew, like, or whatever primary language is. It's like, I bet you she can't. I bet you that's that's what we're dealing with. It's not the fact that she's unfamiliar with English. I'm sure she's familiar enough with English to hold plenty of conversations. It's that she's not... It sounds harsh, but I'm pretty sure she wasn't taught properly how to do acting. Well, I mean, remember the why? Because if you're guilt and then like the sort of exasperated expression, it's just like, man, that was just like, that's just not... I don't believe you. Yeah, it looks like it looks like she is acting. And someone might be like, oh, wait, what? It's like, well, yeah, that's the point of acting, isn't it, to not look like you're acting. It prevents me that you are the character rather than you. Yeah, we both know you're lying. Make me forget that you're lying to me. I guess the big thing would be she gets paid way too much money. For that to be acceptable. Like, she's one of the highest-paid actresses. Isn't that insane? It is. It is not. It's just not fair. She gets paid more than actresses who are talented. You know what I mean? Like, it's just like, yeah. Yeah, that sucks. Like, it's... It's like, yeah, I get it. She's hot, but there's plenty. Being hot is nothing special. She's going to be playing the evil queen in the Snow White remake. It's like, what's that? No, Maleficent. Yeah. No, no, that's just... I think she's just called the evil queen. Yeah, I think that's it. She's playing the evil queen. Evil queen Snow White. I'm pretty sure she doesn't have a name. It's just the evil queen is like what she's called. I don't think that she's named by name in the original, though it says here that her name is Queen Grimhild. All right. Wow. Yeah, I guess you're probably... That's a name. I guess it's similar to Maleficent, isn't it? Maleficent, Grimhild. That's Mark Webb, by the way, is directing the Snow White remake. What are we known from? He did Amazing Spider-Man. That was what he did. The Amazing Spider-Man. The first Amazing Spider-Man? Oh, well, it's going to be shit then. Well, I don't think it even matters, right? Because I think that the remakes that they have have the same problem as Marvel, which is that the director's rarely does any sort of clear vision shine through. Like Guy Ritchie doing Aladdin. I mean, John Favreau, right? Like this point seems to be like a sludge director, which he didn't use to be. Who else was that? Absolutely. John Favreau sucks now. Cinderella, one. There's someone else, too. I think because Rob Marshall is doing... I think he did Mary Poppins. He's doing Little Mermaid. And it's like, I don't know, man. Like it seems to me like no clear vision can shine through in these projects. They're like so corporate. Yeah, corporateness. Yeah, they've got to get run through the assembly line process. Yeah, they're putting the grinder, like little chickens turned into nuggets. Kind of. Well, not kind of essentially there. Like, yeah, that's actually a pretty good analogy for it. I don't know why there would be like any expectation that you're going to get something like particularly valuable from these remakes. You're just taking stuff that was really cool and great, that was made before and then like stripping away, losing a lot in translation. And of course, I don't like it when... Because I remember there was a quote from like the actress playing Snow White. We was like kind of like very dismissive of the original film, which in the case of Snow White feels like particularly frustrating because it was like the first theatrical animated film ever. Disney doesn't exist without that film. Like it has a legacy that I think is worth not shitting on. Especially since your project doesn't exist without it either. I don't know. I'm finding that like particularly annoying. It's like in She-Hawk when they were shitting on dead. I was costume like, yeah, sorry, my dude. We want to use it, but we want to make fun of it at the same time. Yeah, you're going to use it to make money and the creation of people who want to be real. Like they worked really hard under very difficult circumstances to create that. Like churning out way more like a ton of comics. It's like, yeah, I'm sorry, they didn't nail the design the first time around. But what they made is still like a lot better than what you've created. Sorry, it's just, I don't know. I don't like it. Yeah, they couldn't just pass all their shit to everyone in the CGI dungeon and then, you know. Well, yeah, and then make fun of the fact that their CGI is like they didn't have enough time to do it because they're too busy. The slaves are already getting shuffled onto the next project. Like back into the next dungeon. And I mean like. So I don't even know what you're referencing because I think multiple things fit that. Oh, well, do you remember the joke in She-Hulk where they're like, oh, the visual effects move onto the next project and they play the like drums, you know. That's what I was saying. I was curious if you were referring to that or Taika Waititi. Oh, that was just overt, right? That was like having an interview just like openly shitting on the work of people who were working on his projects. And it wasn't like his, it wasn't even his task. And it's like, and you're even partly on the hook for this, right? Because the conditions that resulted in this shot, you're ultimately responsible for because you're the director. You get your big name like on there as like this is your film. Ha, I don't like it. I don't know. That's just, yeah. Yeah, I don't like it. You're going to stream the new Dark Pictures with Metal? Yes. But we decided it's probably better off. He does it when he comes over because we don't have to deal with the bullshit. We're, I don't know if you guys know this, but it caps out as like two-player co-op is like the, you know, we can do the remote play thing, but fucking that was a nightmare with little hope. I'm never doing that again. Yeah. Luckily there's zero gameplay, so it didn't really matter. That's true. That was, that was fortunate. So the other option, of course, is that you can actually have real co-op. There is a far, an option for it. It's like, oh, great. But for some reason there'll be times where they're playing cutscenes, where I see a different one on my end and he sees a different one on his end, which is incredibly confusing when you're trying to have a play together and commentate because he doesn't know what I've seen and I don't know what he's seen. And it sounds like the kind of thing where you're like, oh, this could play into some kind of interesting idea for a co-op game, right? And it's like, yes, but no. This is just garbage where your characters are doing different things at the same time. All it does is cause chaos for you trying to explain. Like he spent so long in a different storyline to me, he had this whole ass character with him that he was enjoying, like an every other one is insufferable. And I was just like, I've not even seen who this person is yet. So like, that's great. I'm just gonna have to go off your word for it. I chose to play a game with you, but yes, we're just gonna play games separately because that's what the new form of co-op is. I don't know. Bizarre. So I don't want to do that again. I would choose that if he wasn't coming over, but the fact that he is, it's like, well, why don't I just wait for you to come over and we can just play from my PC and actually have the same, like just play solo mode, Christ. But apparently released recently. I've already seen some people are playing it. I hope it's great. I doubt that it is. It's a, I don't know. Super massive, like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a good, it reminds me of like the Blumhouse like approach to shit. It's like the gaming vision. Probably doesn't cost too much to keep reusing all this shit. And it's played enough by people because it's seen as like a party thing where, you know, I imagine this, they're still going. So it must be making money. Well, I think, isn't it like the dark pitch is like anthology, like very clearly like reuses assets, right? Yeah. That's what I'm kind of saying is like, it's contextualized in such a way that people will see it as like, ooh, but it's like, yeah, this is, this is shit. They're barely games. Well, it hardly feels like the best utilization of like what branching storytelling can mean in games to do it like that. Yeah. Minimal interactivity outside of the capacity to make choices. And I mean, ultimately like branching storylines, like a good story where you're invested in the outcomes is like pretty essential, I would say. Or you could just not have that. That's true. Lord, long long. You instead have no gameplay, too. Of Mewepschlington Abbey, is there any good chance of an eFap of more or less every frame of pause when there's less going on? It'll be an eFap for the ages. I think we can do an eFap. EFapping eFap would be, it would be courageous. That calls a rift in the universe or something. I mean, it'll cause a time rift because we'll be here for 30,000 days. I don't know if we want to do that. Call the time rift. That sounds like it could be really bad. It could be really bad, mostly for us because we have to do it. We can't just leave whenever we want. Damn it. Hey, Mola, just a small thank you for your gaming streams. Oh, no problem. I've enjoyed them. And when I hit the credits on Ragnarok, I was talking a bit about how much it was a joy to stream it. And lots of fun things were shared. It was an interesting journey, as one may say. The golden talisman of protection is actually quite OP. You can use it throughout a playthrough. It increases your parry window to spam the fuck out of it. Trust me, even a filthy casual like me gets perfect parries back to back. Well, I think that's referring to 2018, actually. So we're catching up. This is the Streamlands ones, remember? We're getting to a modern day with these soon. Would you rather lose the pinky finger from both hands or all the toes from both feet? Surely I would rather lose the pinky finger, right? I'm not sure. That's an important finger. I'd be curious to try walking without toes. I'm pretty sure that if you have no toes, it's like walking is like good luck, you know? Getting a prosthetic to replace your toes is probably much easier than getting one to replace a finger. Oh, I think I'd go with losing my toes. I think that was baked into the question that you just have to accept this condition. Like I thought that if you lose your big toe, like that alone destroys like your ability to walk. So if you lose all your toes, right? You could probably adjust to it. You could probably get used to it. I feel like they exist for a reason. I'm sure that they help immensely. There are plenty of things we can get rid of that don't cost us that much. I think you could get either used to it or you could get somewhat decent things to put on your foot or fake toes or something to at least be able to function normally. I like that I thought it was baked into the question that you have to accept, like that there is no prosthetic and if that's the case, it's like I'd rather have worse grip than not be able to walk. I think I'd be able to walk without it. I think I'd be able to get used to it. I don't think it's baked in that you can't replace them. You can walk while lifting your toes up if you take me to understand what I mean. It's like it's awkward to walk like that, I think, but you can walk. You have to do that all the time. So like, I thought... Well, if you do, it's time you'll get used to it. Well, the question would have said what would you prefer to have no pinky fingers or be able to walk, right? Instead, it said no toes. So I assume it's trying to... The question didn't say like, what do you want, worse grip or not able to walk. Like they're just asking about what happens when you lose that. That's what I said to you. What are you doing? I thought that you just said like lose pinky or not be able to walk. Yeah, you said like the spirit of the question is you can't account for the fact that it's going to make it not be able to walk. It's like, no, it would have said you would have said that if it was that. You said that it's... You said that it's lose your pinky or not be able to walk. Exactly. No, no, no, no, no. It's not not be able to walk. It's just lose your toes. No, I know that that's what it is. But like when you were saying the comparison, you said it was like lose the ability to walk or like lose a pinky. When like the point that's being made is that if you lose your pinky, makes it hard to grip. Like if we're going to talk about what you're essentially losing in the question, that's all I'm trying to get across. Yeah, I'm confused. I thought you were trying to say the spirit of the question involves no way to account for the fact you've lost your toes and therefore you're going to be able to... No, what I meant in terms of your ability to account for it is that I presume that prosthetics aren't baked into it. I thought it was like you have to accept that you are missing that and you need to find a way to... That's what getting prosthetics are, I feel, is accepting that you can't. I don't think there's anything in the spirit of the question that would preclude being able to get prosthetics. So I can just get what? Prosthetics, get a prosthetic finger or something then. Like a super... Yeah, but yeah, absolutely. However, but I... Well, I don't know if those like exist, right? I think they do, but they're pretty high-tech at this point. Yeah, they're pretty... They're pretty... Yeah, we're in the infancy of that sort of thing, but I feel like replacing... Realistically, replacing your toes to fulfill their function for walking to get back up to how things used to be, you'd be a lot more successful replacing your toes than you would replacing your pinky, which is a much more precision digit, precision appendage. The inherent reduction in my capacity to do things by losing the pinky seems way lower than if I lose all my toes. I think that's the fundamental... Someone said, Rags, if you just get prosthetics, then what's the point of the question? Because prosthetics are not accurate replacements for the real thing. Sure, that's kind of my point, is I don't know that there's any prosthetic to me that seems like it would account for the loss of all of your toes. I would agree that there are no prosthetics you'd likely have now, and I could be wrong, but chances are, even going into this question, believing that I'll never get essentially the functionality of real toes back, I still would prefer to keep my pinkies. I guess I just find that unfathomable, because to me it seems like losing the toes... Rags is famously on EFEB4 explained to people that the pinky is more useful than they think. I would rather lose my ring fingers than my pinkies. I know that the pinky is very useful, but to me the toes seem very obvious. It's like grip versus ability to walk. I don't know, walking to me seems way more important. I think that you could get to a decent amount of walking with practice, a bit of therapy, some like... Have you seen The Box? The Box, I don't... That's the movie, The Box. But there's a character in that who has a fucked up pinky or something like that, and so she gets these inserts as she puts in that sort of takes the place of it, and it's better than nothing. I'm going to go toilet, but I'm going to walk without trying to use my toes while I go there, and then I'll report back when I'm done. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if that's analogous, right, because you're still using your toes to some extent for balance. Sorry, I drank the water, went down the wrong way. I mean, there will be a tiny amount of weight that will probably be very minuscule, considering how top-heavy a human is, but I just think that you could eventually, especially with shoes and stuff, you can get up to a lot closer to your original capability, whereas I just don't think you'll really be able to replace that pinky anyway. See, the thing is, you say that, and I just don't believe that. I think that... I don't believe that that's the case. I think that that's something that is virtually impossible to recover. Well, you have people who have an entire leg gone, and they're able to get prosthetics that allow them to run and jog pretty darn good with practice, so if you're just losing your toes, I assume that you could have some sort of... Losing them on all of my feet. Yes, all two, yes. I think that as important as that is, I think you could get back to being essentially normal with enough practice, getting used to it, and some inserts or something you attach to your foot, as opposed to the pinky. And because I use my hands so much for typing and... Assuming that that's even the question, though. I would assume so. I don't know why they wouldn't say that you couldn't replace them with anything or that you just can't put something there. It's like, if the question was if you lost a leg, so I can't use a crutch anymore, you know, that seems... We're sure that I just didn't emerge a leg, and it's like, yeah, but you can get like a cyborg leg. It's like, I don't know. Well, I mean, if we lived in a... I think if we lived in a world where cybernetics were advanced enough to essentially replace the leg, or that it's even better than a normal leg, that would be more reasonable. But I feel now, fake legs are just not as good as real legs, so... Yeah, of course they're not as good as real legs, but like, nevertheless... Hello. Well, I would choose to keep my pinkies, and I would put... Look for some inserts or something for my toes to see if I can replace them with something at least. If for anything to fill my shoes. I feel like there's more than enough balance to walk without your toes, because you have like the remain pressure points of each foot. Like six pressure points in total to balance. I feel like I've distinctly heard, like that if you lost even like your big toe, and you kept all of your other toes, you would have to relearn how to walk. Yeah, but you can do that. Oh, yeah, I mean... So I bet your... This says here that under acornhealth.corn.org, toes and balance, you can walk without toes. It's still possible to walk without any of them, but your gait will need to compensate. There are prosthetics and shoe inserts available that may be a benefit too, depending on which one or how many you have missing. It says from a functional standpoint, this is on scientificamerican.com. From a functional standpoint, amputating a big toe results in little or no disability. Like, I'm not sure what to make of that. It just... Like, I'm confident about the whole thing that if you lose the big toe, fundamentally fucks up your ability to walk permanently. When you say fundamentally fucks up your ability to walk, what are you picturing? Like someone who's really having trouble and almost can't walk at all or...? Yeah, actually. Like that you would almost undervalue how important your toes are in terms of affection. I would go with your over-exaggeration that it's not that bad. I'm going to go with the stuff here, and I will... I will absolutely... I mean, if you lose your feet, you can just get... There are people who just learn to live with it and they're balanced, and like it said earlier, like your gait will change, and your balance will change, and you'll adapt to it. Like, I'm sure someone lost their pinky finger and it's like, oh, yeah, that's gone, and then they get used to it too. Well, here's the thing that I think the difference is. That's true, though. You can get used to it. However, you will lack an option that was pretty damn useful, especially for our line of work. Yes, that's kind of what I was going to go into. If I lose a pinky, then there's... I don't think there's going to be really anything I could do to attach to my hand with our current technology level that will bring that back, that functionality back, whereas the toes, for pretty much everyone, they're only there to assist with walking. And if I can learn how to walk, again, essentially get back to normal-ish and just have a different gait, then I have... I essentially... I haven't lost anything, but now I look funny when I walk. And with how important being able to like type and game and stuff like that is for me, I'd rather keep my hands as intact as possible. Yeah, and if I was like a professional runner, I'd probably have the reverse answer. Yeah, that would probably be pretty detrimental to their line of work. Unless, of course, there's something to do with wind resistance as to losing a pinky that's important. Something that I'm unaware of that completely fucks your ability to run to not have your pinky finger. Yeah, this... The Scientific American here says the doctor is considered having nine toes, minor impairment that is little. And I know that's nine toes instead of all of them, but still. Well, I imagine there's a different level of impairment based on big toes. Absolutely, yeah, it'll. Zero. I mean, but even here, but even that first one under acornhealth.org, it's... Yeah, you can walk without them, but your gait will need to change to compensate. I'm sure that you can walk without them. It just seems like it... Like, can you run? Probably, yeah. I'm sorry. That's a very dramatic change from what you were saying just five minutes ago. Oh, sorry. I thought I said the part like, yeah, fair enough, to like the points that you made. Well, because... You're not gonna get that part. Well, definitely not. I just... I didn't realize you could see that. I definitely did. As for running, I imagine that's the same deal. You're gonna have to relearn it. Yeah, you have to... You learn how to walk, and then you learn how to run. Once you're... Once you're... Your body adjusts to the different balance and how you can spread that out in your feet and you're walking around more normal. No, you didn't. No, I was... I definitely did. Sorry. Did what? Well, I'm... Oh, no, it's just... No, don't worry about it. All right. I assume, yeah, you learn how to walk and then you learn how to run again after that once you're more comfortable with it. Yeah, it'll be tough. It'll be awkward, but I imagine after several attempts, you'll... There's gonna be a form of compensation for whatever is needed, be it balance and gait and whatever. I'm sure you could... I doubt it would ever be at the point where you simply cannot run. I guess that's the thing. Yeah, I doubt that. We're downplaying the form of compensation for grip or is that like an impossible thing to... It's not... I mean, we can go over all of the detrimental aspects of losing the pinky, I guess. Because I think it can have more of a fact that it may be expected. A lot of people will typically gun for like taking the pinky out as though it is the least important of an important set of abilities. I'm pretty sure it's the ring finger is the least important one, right? Yeah, when it comes to grip, I would rather lose my ring finger. Well, let's put it this way. If the choice was to lose my thumbs or my toes, I would definitely choose the toes. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, thumbs are... Thumbs are legends. We need them. We need, yeah. Often said, opposable thumbs is the reason that we're here. We are. But yeah, I mean, that's why an assassin's crew, right? They lose the ring finger, because that's like the most... Do they chop the ring finger in? They only did that with the first game. They did only do that with the first game because you boil Leonardo Da Vinci, figure out a way to make the play work without having to deal with that. But Ezio was ready to lose it. He was good at it. He was, yeah. Remember? It's like Leonardo trolls him a little bit. He hits the table with the axe or whatever. He's like, nah, just kidding. I found a way around it. Leonardo's a cheeky little... Oh, bastard. Cheeky, you cheeky renaissance man, you. Yeah, the actual renaissance man. Don Wickley chop off the ring finger as well, I think. Yes. I wouldn't be able to tell you why. It's blood sacrifice. Wasn't it like a... Yeah. I'm sure it's something dumb. Well, what are you talking about, Rags? It was something great. It's something dumb. Do you not like John Wick? John Wick's really cool. I like, I love John Wick 1. Oh. The way you specify that means you don't like John Wick 2 and 3? All I said, what? You can't extrapolate anything from the fact that I said that I love John Wick 1. I can extrapolate that you love John Wick 1. I loved, yeah. I loved John Wick 1. I loved the first John Wick movie. So Rags, you know what? I was on your side, but I immediately... Because we were talking about John Wick, the series. The fact that you would specify just the first one is interesting. Yeah. I love John Wick 1, don't you? It's interesting that when we're talking about the series as a whole, that you specifically identified the first film as being the one that you like. Look, there's nothing wrong with John Wick 1. It doesn't mean necessarily that you're saying that 2 and 3 are terrible. It's just interesting, the implication. I'm feeling like the point here, which is that I love John Wick 1. Here, don't you love John Wick 1? I do really like John Wick 1. All right, then we're in agreement and there's nothing to discuss further. We are in agreement. Yeah. But I wasn't the one who specifically highlighted John Wick 1 as being the great one. The great one? I'm just saying that I really like John Wick 1. Nice catch there, Rags. That was a good catch, yeah. Put into a net there, but you made sure you saved it. Because all you need to do now is just be like, hey, man, I'm just saying I really love one of them. That's not... Little known fact, but Ashibi dogs can... You know how like a cat or a rat, anything that they could get their head through, they could get the rest of their body through? I can just do that with nets. I can just squeeze right through those net holes. Oh man, that'd be perfect when the predator does the net thing because you can just jump right through. It really would, yeah. He'd be very confused. He'd probably adopt you at that point because he'd be like, this is just too cool. Oh, yeah. He's net-proof. Rags, when will the hot dog Lear return to EFAP? It's last seen in EFAP 70 on Han. The hot dog Lear. I don't even remember that reference. A hot dog Lear makes well sense. A hot dog Lear, but that's how they've spelled it. The hot dog Lear. Is that like a burglar? I think it was the burglar. You steal hot dogs? Yeah. Oh, it's because of the hamburger. I thought the last thing I remember about hamburgers was to do with the BobaFat coverage we had. Yeah, in the shadow. That was the weirdest fucking star. Shadow creature. We talked for so long about McDonald's law. It was the shadow creature. I can't believe that was the thing. You're so funny. It feels, maybe we're getting trolled hardcore by that, but that was hilarious. It's the kind of thing where you wish if it was the reality show there was just that guy. He's just this shadowy creature. That's the, it writes itself. It's such a great joke. Rags. You didn't shut the bathroom door in your latest video when going to pee, or you just have the world's loudest toilet, or you just played toilet.wav and washing hands.wav and lied to the viewers. How could you, P.S. High Mueller and Fringy? So that was actually something that I was concerned about. Like, well, the fact that the toilet sound plays in the distance imply that I was not. Well, I think I'm OK with peeing with the door open. It's been a while. I think I'm OK with peeing with the door open. It's pooping with the door open. I thought your rules vehemently. Was it when there's no one else living in the place you're OK with it? Or I can't remember now. If you're peeing with the door open, that's OK if you're alone, or if you have a very special, special relationship with who you're living with. A pee relationship. But, yeah, but if you, but if you, you never poop with the door open, you just don't. It doesn't matter if you live in a mansion. It doesn't matter if you live alone, if you're a hermit living in the woods, like that guy that Jeremiah Johnson became friends with. You don't do that. You don't poop with the door open. You can pee with the door open. That's all right. That's fine. You know, as long as, you know, you're either alone or whoever you're with, it's fine with that. But you don't, you don't poop with the door open. So that was fine. Yes. I think even specified in the video, I had to go pee. But yes, also high. Rags say boy, like I just said, something very sexually provocative. Oh, yeah, boy, I guess. Oh, okay. So someone would be like, okay, then I'd say, yeah, boy. Well, let's say it's not like I just said something very wholesome. Hope that makes sense. Tush not. It's T C H N A A H. Why would that be someone said to something wholesome? Maybe they're trying to, maybe you're trying to play like hard to get. Like, like if someone was to say something. Or is it like no, like complimentary or sweet to you? And you're like, no, like you're, yeah. Yeah, you throw a W in there if you want to do no. All right. No, because now it does sound like the first one you were saying where I'd be like, nah. No. I guess I'll go, I'll just do both. Nah. And no, I don't really know. Brini say, hey, like I just said something about your goo. Hey. No, I think they mean like, hey. No, like, but like, like you're an actor and you care. Yeah. But did they say good or like, did they say something positive or negative? You haven't given me enough direction. Wait, so if it was positive, your reaction would have been, hey. I went with a neutral one because it is unclear to me, you know, like what exactly. Well, you know, it's only two and it's only two words. She's just doing both. Yeah, it may as well. So someone would say, hey, your goo is terrible. Hey, no, no, that. No, let me try again. Hey, yeah, there you go. Okay. Yeah, that works. And then somebody might come up to you and say, Fringy, this goo, it's amazing. Hey. Well, see, I actually think with that one, he'd respond negatively to be like, hey, you don't actually have a goo. You're lying. Yeah. How did you get it? Well, I assumed it was like, like maybe he had given it to someone as a gift for price. Well, this is the Fringy movie where it's not the real goo. It's more of like a, you know, the metaphor. The fruity. And then we have Fringy. He's a metaphor for the meaning of life. I don't know if I'd call it that. The Fringy? You wouldn't call it the Fringy? Oh, you have Alvin and the Chipmunks to the Squeakwell. So I assume that you would, I assume the naming convention, essentially dictates that you would call yours the Frinkwell. I mean, if we're going by the naming convention of specifically Alvin and the Chipmunks, sure. But like, we're not. Or at least I'm choosing not to. Wasn't the third one called Alvin and the Chipmunks Chipwrecked? Didn't it be called the three? Totally right about that. I'm pretty sure it is called Chipwrecked. Oh, neat. And then and then we have Alvin and the Chipmunks the Road Chip. Wow. It doesn't work as well. In a subversion of the idea that the extended edition is always better, I hear the extended version of Stripes in 1981 is worse as it ruins the pacing. I would say that the extended. Oh, do we have we given our hot take about Kingdom of Heaven? Yeah, we often have. And people are very shocked to hear it. And they're going to continue. Oh, yeah. The extended edition is worse. That is that is a hot take for the universe. Yeah, I think it does significant character damage to one of the characters. Do we get to use Shad as a shield? Shad was there and he agreed. So, you know, leave us alone. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, it really was not a pleasant watch. He was there, right? Am I dreaming? Yeah, I'm almost certain he was there. Yeah. Efat wool movie arc coming at your life in 10 years. Eventually. It will happen. Where are we? I briefly confused Rags video title players don't like gay characters with Mushiro Sakurai's channel and laughed. For a split second, I thought Sakurai was going to talk about the really spicy subjects. P.S. whatever happened to Ra? I think there's someone in chat who claims to be Ra sometimes, but I don't know anymore. It's hard to say. It is hard to say. I hope he's doing well. I hope he's doing well too. I hope he's found the woman of his dreams. Yeah. Hey, Moeller. I love your long Star Wars videos. What recording and editing software are you using for them? Specifically, your editing is superb. Keep on going. Well, thank you. It was very kind. I'm using Sony Vegas 16 for mostly everything. I think I'm on 19 now with this machine. So that'll be fine. I also not too long ago got 19 and it works well. How did you get it? If you have a previous version, you get like a huge discount on upgrading it to other versions. I couldn't find anywhere to buy 19. It was insane. I even asked Asple should help me out and he couldn't find anywhere either. I've got Vegas Pro. Yeah, Vegas Pro 19 and I jumped from... Oh, I jumped from 15. I went from 15 to 19. Oh, sorry. Actually, a better question is, when did you do that? Was it a while ago? Or was it like a... Somewhat. Yeah, I think... Like semi-recently, but yeah. Have that with an iron grip because to buy 19 from their store is actually like, I don't even know if you can do it anymore. They all the... What happens? They point you to Vegas 365 now. Everywhere does. And Vegas 365 is apparently the most expensive version. The idea is that you buy it and then you never have to buy it again because it'll update all the time forever. But you pay monthly. Oh. Subscription and it's pricey. So fuck that. Yes, I hate that. It's so obviously... I would prefer to go back to fucking 16 than to be forced into a subscription service where I have to fucking pay every month. You kidding me? Yeah. And if I have... If it's the choice between... Because 19's fine. I don't have any issues with it really. The occasional crap... I actually haven't had the problem in a long time. But yeah. I don't know how good it would have to get to where I'd pay a subscription because I really don't want to pay a subscription for something. I'd rather just pay... I'd rather pay like a large sum up front to just have it forever. Don't in chats summarize it for me. There's too many things I'm subscribed to. I just can't handle anymore. I know. That's why people pirate shit because they can't subscribe to everything anymore. They just can't do it. Everything wants to nickel and dime you. It's like... What happened to being able to just buy a thing? Yeah. That's the one thing about... Now I will say... I don't think... But if you're going to keep something, keep Game Pass though. Keep that shit. Right, right. But as far as Vegas, because I think what I did was when Vegas Pro, when I launch it, it has the little promotional thing pop up that you X out of. Like it's, you know, like upgrade to the next version. I think I used that. I think I went directly through that window that pops up and it took me to wherever I needed to go. But I don't specifically remember where. Because I don't think I told you, Rags, but I picked up an Xbox 360 kind of casually because I was in my local, you know, things store. Oh, and then I'm like, hmm. It was only like 20 quid, I think. So... Nice. Oh, I'll take that. It's good for decoration. Two games I picked up on it, Tearock and Banjo-Kazooie, Nuts and Bolts, which I plan to stream. And I'll explain at the beginning of both of them why I would stream those games because those are very specific and strange. But the other thing I saw there was Gears of War one, two and three were all a pound each. I was like, why not? You should have got them. Did you get them? Yes. That's why I said, why not? So the thing is like, what was that? Because like I still am more than happy to play those with you. But what is, are we able to do that online? On the Xbox 360? I think Xbox Live from 360 is gone. Well, I was going to say not necessarily on 360, but just, yeah. Well, let me check if it's on Steam. I assume not. I don't think it is. I think it was on Steam at some, it was on PC, right? Gears of War one. Well, Gears 5 is on Game Pass, so the old ones might be. So let me check. Let me go to my Xbox app. I think the old ones, I don't know if they would be. Games for Windows Live is a thing. Yeah. Let me go to find games. Gears of War. Gears of War for Ultimate Edition. Wait, is this, what is this? Is this for the Gears of War Ultimate Edition for Windows 10? Gears of War Returns stunningly remastered and modernized for Windows 10 with up to 4k resolution and unlocked refresh rates. Oh, wait, that's on, that's on PC, but not on Steam. Game Pass. Right. I assume it has called. Interesting. Let me check. Details, capabilities, online co-op. It says two, two to two players, I think. Online multiplayer is two to eight players as far as I know, but I'll have to double check. But yeah, the release date, looks like in 2016 they came out with this. So then I assume you and I would be able to play one, not two, not three, four and five. I, unless they've remastered the other ones, that seems to be the case, but let me check for other Gears of War. Because that's just what came up with the little search bar. So let me search. Let me see. Gears of War. Triple bundle, Gears Tactics. That's different. It seems like, yeah, Gears of War. Ultimate Edition, which is a remaster of the first, and Gears of War four and Gears five. All right. Which I would, I would certainly play through Gears five with you. That is a fun game. I don't, I think Gears will be able to suffice, even if it's not particularly great, right? Because we, like the games are particularly great. Or the, what I'm saying is, even if Gears four, for example, is like shit or whatever, it's probably good enough for us to stream it, yeah. Well, it's not even five. It's a great co-op game. Well, it'd be cool if it was four player co-op, because we could get Fringon Metal then. Yeah, it would be neat. Let me see it. Let me see if Gears five is, it looks like it is local co-op two to three players. That's strange. Two to three, like fucking fire team elite all over. Don't remind me of fire team elite. When did everyone forget four is the number? Four. I think, I guess, I think four is still probably the default, but I guess with Apex Legends is the big one. That's three people on a team. And what was the other one? Is there a new thing where everyone lost a friend? Is that like a pandemic of friend loss? I don't know. I guess it's easier to, it's probably just easier to balance for three people. Like I think, with Apex, I think it works well in terms of the weapons and the range and like time to kill and stuff. Having three is probably about the limit for one team. And because once you get to four, I feel like it really starts to become a bit different. But yeah, I don't see why gear, maybe it's tied to the amount of, maybe they want to try to keep it narratively similar to where it's generally you and two people with you who are computers. So they try to keep it to three players. I can't remember. I don't remember that aspect of the game, though I remember enjoying Gears 5 quite a bit. I don't know. Well, that gives us two. Yeah, we'll figure that out. Same for Halo, same for a lot of things. I'm hoping to have a lot more of a consistent playing of games thing that happened at some point. I like games. Games are cool. You know, I give them a little thumbs up. I love games. That's why I never go on Pinky. I got a sprint. Yes, yes. I mean, out of us three, I'm assuming you guys use left control to crouch. Am I the one here who uses C for crouch? I already use C. You guys are different than me. I think generally I will use control to crouch, yes. I generally will use control to crouch. I'm really shit with it. As far as I know. I could never get used to it, but C I'm much easier with. Yeah, that's fair enough. But I typically use left control. Well, the thing that's crazy is I had a friend who for the longest time, and he, by the way, was by far the best player out of all of us for like first person chosen stuff on PC. He would use the arrow keys as WASD. You'd always rebind it. Really? Yeah. And if you see him play, he would look like a bit of a goblin person because the arms are right next to each other and you're just like, meh. But he was amazing. Well, you'd have to, well, because if you're left hand is on the arrow keys, you lose out on so many other buttons. This is the thing. I don't know how to say it, but he was the best by far. He could easily have gone pro. I don't know how he did it. Because I, because like, because the most, because E and F are almost universally the use buttons. R is almost always reload. And you could rebind these, of course, but yeah, that's so awkward because if your fingers are on the WASD, or the arrow keys, then the rest of your hand is way lower. And you don't have, yeah, that's bizarre to me. That sounds really strange. It's just, it's funny how control sets work because like I had a friend who was obsessed with Metroid Prime of Hunters, really obsessed when it came out. Just constantly playing it. On the DS? Yeah. And obviously that's, there was like a battle mode in it that was just, it's like first person shooting, killing each other and just like, we would always joke about how like, that control scheme is so annoying compared to just FPS stuff. But he was probably good enough on the DS that he could take you on on PC, sort of shit. It's just like, how did you get to that point? Yeah. The way it worked on that game was you, your aim was your stylus. So you use the stylus to aim left. The left bumper on the DS would be your fire button and you had your arrow keys, which was your movement. And that's really everything that you had because of the layout of the DS. So if you wanted to do anything else, you either had to tap stuff on the screen to activate different things or whatnot. Yeah. But yeah, it was, you were pretty limited with what you could actually do with your left hand. It was essentially, you could only move and you could only shoot. That was it. To finish up the question though, my recording, I use Audacity, clean it up a little bit with noise reduction. It's not something I like to do, but if you just do a basic one on a very, very isolated piece, it'll just make it so that the audio is as clean as possible. Then throw that into Vegas, apply, I forget exactly what it, I think it's in equalizer, something that fucks with some of the audio to some degree, the filters, I'd have to check them. But yeah. And then that goes into Vegas, make the visuals, it's a whole thing, takes forever. I don't recommend making six hour videos this way, but I will continue to do so probably. I record, I don't use Audacity myself. I record straight into Vegas and RTX does a pretty darn good job at cleaning up background noise. There was once when I cleaned out my, recently I cleaned my fan because I just, I didn't really notice you don't think to look at it, but it got super dusty from just turning all the time and gathering dust. So I took it outside and I cleaned it. And it was, it was like a night and day difference. And then I could hear the fan again. It was loud because so much more air was getting through again. Yep. But apart from that, yeah, that's, that's how it works for me. So I guess whatever you, whatever you do is, whatever works for you, do it. And this is, keep on going. We'll do good stuff. This time, this time watching your stream. Don't know if they're referring to the game, the eFab, whatever, but I hope you're enjoying it. Whatever it was. Glad to have you. Remember in early 2020, there was news on a female centric Star Wars. Looks like that went absolutely nowhere. I don't even remember that. Well, so did this female centric Pirates movie that they were going to make. What a shame and great. They would have been a triumph. I would have watched it, maybe, maybe. I would, I mean, we would have for our jobs, probably. Many of the messages I completely forgot sending. It's weird to hear them after so long. Would have reworded most rags. It's officially been a year since 2042. With it, we've only had three maps. A handful of guns and countless $10 plus bundles of shitty skins. I've heard very little legit good stuff about the state of 2042. I have not played that game since the eFab for it. I think it was 13 hours I put into that game is all I could really handle. Luckily, it got me into Battlefield 5, which has become my favorite battlefield. And I am so ready to play it again when I get this new computer on Tuesday because my current GPU is having some Tisms. So all I could, all I'm playing is RimWorld. Not that I don't adore RimWorld, but you know, you like to, you know, play other stuff. But yeah, I'm in no way interested or excited for Battlefield 2042. Hopefully that was a huge wake-up call for DICE to make a good fucking Battlefield game. I hope they don't get the wrong message, which is people don't like Battlefield. But you never know these days. Fingers crossed. They'd make more, if they released a DLC for Battlefield 5 or even Battlefield 1 at this point, they'd legit just make more money. You're probably right. There's more people. I think when, when Battlefield 1 had that Steam sale, they got over 50,000 concurrent players on just Steam. Yeah. That's nuts. That's crazy. And that catches us up with Streamlabs, of which. Oh boy. It's actually easier to keep on top off now because I have something called a mini-feed attached to my OBS that actually shows me the Streamlabs up to date. It's like a thing, which is a dramatic change from how it used to be. So that should help us out. That is neat. So on to Rings of Power. At least these will be Rings of Power related. All right. This one says scorn, an unbridled scorn. I... Doesn't deserve it. Yeah, it doesn't really deserve to be talked about, honestly. I think we kind of said everything that there was to say. I just don't have... There are games that I do feel kind of passionately for that I would make videos on. It's certainly a consideration. I would like to make more game-related content. But man, scorn, there's not actually that much to say. Like we said during our eFap on it, it's not like Amnesia Rebirth, where there's a lot to discuss because that's trying to do far more with itself. Scorn just doesn't give you that much to talk about. Yeah, I don't even know what a video for it would look like. It would just be what we... I think it would be what we said in the coverage, but probably shorter, because it would just be a little bit faster and the visuals would be there to fill in any gaps. And that's it. I really can't see... I couldn't have no passion for that. I would just be like scorn. None. Yeah. Meanwhile, like Ragnarok. Plus I don't want to play it again. We're not talking about Ragnarok for another two weeks, and I'm probably going to be pumped by the time we get to that point. Talk about it as I am right now. Yeah, we seem really excited. Lots of things happen in it. Great. And I'm even interested to kind of watch all the, you know, cut scenes and stuff. What's with the spam? Okay. Spam. The one thing that gets you booped on this channel real quick is spamming. Yeah, that's all you got to do is not spam. You had... We had one job. One. Good job, too. Rags. You're a cool doggo. Thank you. I agree. Bit high as well. Oh, hello to you. What is this? Burgles always win? What is even the spam? I don't know. I'm weirdo. The rings are the number of zeros they wrote to Tolkien's estate to piss on it from Angry Joe's review lol. The number of zeros they wrote to Tolkien's estate to piss on it. I'm not sure I understand. The number of zeros? Yeah, the rings are the number of zeros they wrote to Tolkien's estate to piss on it. Does he mean the amount they... Oh, that much they paid? Why does it say rude? They paid a lot of money to piss on the estate. Essentially, they paid a lot of money to disrespect the IP. I guess so. I assume that's what they mean. Hey, I mean, it's... I get there's a joke there, but like three zeros? It's like we're looking at normal zeros and that. They're gonna have to fill in... Maybe they mean all of the rings once they're made. That would be close. Now that this and She-Hulk is over, you can cover good stuff like Andor and Hot-D. High rags, High Fringy, and of course, High Mola. Oh, and High Guests. Hello. Yeah, how about that? Well, yeah, they might just be around the corner, hopefully. Maybe, maybe. In better news, we get Hot-D tomorrow, smiley face. That must have been about the last episode coming out, I think, or at least close to it. Weird that that started before and ended like right after rings of power, but I guess it made sense with the episode count. I wonder what would happen if you switched all the creatives, writers, execs, and producers for rings of power and Hot-D season two? Why would you do that? Wait, can you say that one more time? If they switched the create... Basically, all the people behind rings of power and Hot-D season two, if we were to switch them. It's like, why? Why? I care about the Hot-D characters. I don't give a shit about the rings of power characters. It would be weird for them to try and save the rings of power characters. I'm sure they could do some great stuff with them, but at that point, I don't care. I don't care about these people, and I don't care about this world. You've made a mess of everything, whereas what we essentially do is we lose all of the Hot-D characters, and that plot turns to shit. And I value those things, and I don't want them to be destroyed. So that would stink. It would be interesting in theory, though. It's like, it's like a wife swap show. You have... It's not a weird, no, it's not a weird, like, swingers thing. But you have people write shows, and then you swap all the writers to do the other shows. It's an interesting idea, but not with Hot-D. I don't want to lose it. I've got so little. I've got so little. What is this notification from YouTube? Like, I guess I'll check chat to make sure, but it says the audio stream's current bit rate is zero, and that is lower than the recommended bit rate. We recommend you use an audio bit rate of one, two, eight kilobytes per second. It's like, well, I mean, we'd be muted at that point. It's about to say, you know, zero seems like not. I don't believe you, Obi-Aid. I think you're lying to me. We've won better than zero, yeah. When you watch the Super Mario Bros. movies, make sure to check out the Morton Jamcall cut. It is the truest of the director's vision. It's a significant improvement to the theatrical cut. What? I didn't know there was a director's cut for the Super Mario Bros. movie. Generally, when we watch things, we watch the director's cut or the extended edition. Yeah, we aim for whatever the best version, yeah. Yeah, like, whatever the creators refer to as the ultimate definitive edition. Yeah, the thing that's closest to their vision that isn't constrained by theatrical limitations and things like that, usually it works out. Sometimes it doesn't, but usually it does. I can put slow mode on, right? And that kills the spammers. I don't have to figure out how to do slow mode because I don't actually know. He'll just get bored with his alt. Well, it just makes it easier for the mods, that's all, because they're having to... Yeah. Especially when people are like, go faster, it's like, trust me, the mod's probably going as fast as they can. No, don't slow me down. It's all right, you get like one per 10 seconds, which isn't so bad. Yeah. Do I do it like slash command into the chat? I think that's a way to do it. Not too worried. When you... I don't actually know. Is it true Eru Iluvatar pushed Gollum into the lava? Is that... I thought it was Frodo. Is that a th... Well, I didn't... I mean, pushed is... Going from the movies pushed is a little bit complicated, right? I don't know how it goes in the book exactly. I think even in the books he does. I can't remember though. I haven't read the books in so long. Probably Gladriel, she showed up and just chops his head off. This is very cool. Very cool. Yes. Lord Longbong of Mewdlinton Abbey. Is there any good chance of a Kong fap? Peter Jackson's long Kong? When there's less going on? It'd be a movie fap for the ages. Yes. Hello, wagsies. Critches for the good boy. Yeah, hello. Yeah, I mean, it feels weird, but it's about like the fourth vision of that just for today. And I believe Long Kong will indeed be on the way. It's possible. It is possible. Based on in-game character models in Witcher 3, who is the prettiest? Tris, Yenne or Shani? I vote Shani. Let me remind myself. This is a common thing, right? People fight over Tris and Yennefer or something. Yeah, Shani looks really attractive. I got to re-acquaint myself with the Yennefer. Tris, Yennefer and Shani. That's the three. Ooh. And they're all very attractive. This is just, I think this is, I mean, of course, it's up to taste, but I think I might, for me personally, I think I might go with, it's probably, it's really close between Shani and Yenne, I don't know. Even Trit, yeah, I don't know. They're both, they're all great. I guess I'll just go with, I'll go with Yennefer, I think. But I'm really, I'm, yeah, they're all very lovely. So, it's definitely not a strong opinion that I have. It's a common one, I think, for a lot of people. Yeah. Makes some sense. I hope someone gives Sauron a hug. I hope so too. When you're hit by a pyroclastic flow, your bodily fluids flash to steam due to the extreme heat and you die instantly. Jeez. I can't believe it. It's something like going into space or something like that. You die. There we go. It's amazing how they showed that and they're like, nah, she's fine, whatever. This brew little platoon in Shad, if he hops in, which is better, Wheel of Time Season One or Rings of Power Season One, which Amazon Travesty is better. I think from memory that Shad feels the Wheel of Time is like really hideously bad and so does this brew, but the Rings of Power, I think Shad was like, Highlighting Rings of Power was the worst thing he's ever seen. I'm not sure how it ranks for us. We thought it was really bad, really bad. It's definitely really bad. As worst thing we've ever seen? I mean, it's not Multiverse of Madness or Army of the Dead. It's really bad though. Yeah, it's funny we should have like an old-time ranking or something, but it's difficult to do it sometimes because... It would make for a fun eFap to take a huge list of all the stuff that we've covered and just start kind of putting it on a chart that we could have. Maybe it could be on the eFap.me, the eFap site. That would be a neat thing to have. It would take a little bit of discussion, but I think it would be fun to go through, especially if we got a good guess of regulars and stuff. That could be fun. Someone in chat said rings of power is not an adaption though. Well, it is, it's just that they made up a lot of it, as in they took sections of time that Tolkien didn't write specifics about, right? So that's how they get away with it. Yeah, I'd still say that's an adaptation. Yeah, it's an adaptation, it is. eFap TV suggestion, Banshee. It's a non-stop action show about an ex-con fresh out of prison who assumes the identity of a small town sheriff. Hmm, that sounds interesting. Interesting premise. The last time we were given an interesting premise. By the way, having slow motors in, like, you can only say something once per 10 seconds, that's something I think they have constantly on Friday Night Tights, and it's probably a good move. I don't see why you... A lot of... Yeah, I see a decent amount of time. You wouldn't need more than that for someone who's just looking to add to the conversation, right? One per 10 seconds, that's pretty reasonable. Yeah, it is pretty darn reasonable, I think. Cool, we might have that forever, because it actually kills spam, like, permanently. Kind of neat. Chris wants to debate... Yeah, he's weird, though. The second age, more like the garb age. That's actually pretty funny. The garbage. That's pretty funny. Lucky guadob. The garbage. Uh... They packed Sauron's lengthy, intricate manipulation of the elves through cunning and social engineering into half an episode. I hate Bezos. I mean, could it even be Coles? It's the writers or just shit. Manipulation, I don't even know. I don't even know if it is, because it seems like he didn't want to do it, but it just sort of happened, I guess. He almost, like, stumbled upon the fact that he was evil or whatever. I don't know. The whole Sauron stuff that they did was bad. Well, all of it was bad. You can barely understand what they were trying to do, let alone what they actually did. Like, what part of what they did was good, though? This is the thing, they kind of... It was like one or two scenes, but we were like, oh, that was okay. Yeah, we're talking literally five-ish minutes out of an entire season that we could call good, and they're super isolated. Did anyone else watch Andorra, and whenever someone said his name... Sorry, his name Clem? I just heard this is Clem Fandango. Can you hear me, Steven? Fist bump if you get the reference. I'm assuming you guys don't get the reference. I do not, I do not know who Clem Fandango is. I'm afraid I do not know either. Did you see the showrunners compared rings of power to the Nolan Batman trilogy? Why do these things keep happening? Why? Oh, with the godfather or joker or whatever. Just go away. Lucky them that those movies suck too, so they have something in common. Wow. That is a spicy meatball. I can't believe... So like Nolan, he said Christopher Nolan's Batman? Yeah, can you believe that? So, wow. So like, he's talking about the Dark Knight would be included in those just as an example? Presumably, he did say trilogy, and I'm not aware of any more than the three. Trilogy, okay. I wonder if they'll get Nolan and Bale to make a fourth one out of like some weird desperation. I think they both said they only do it if the other wanted it or something like that. What do you think Nolan's moved past Batman to the point where he's like, I'm only gonna do very high-brow stuff. Batman is too low-brow. He runs around saving people with none of that. I imagine that Nolan is very aware that the director's like right now hating onto the superhero genre. Right. Like it's um... It's funny, you know like Tarantino and Scorsese Coppola and people like that? It's just like if they all like teamed up there's a huge thing to make like a superhero movie or something as revenge, but it's like super serious. Maybe like a TV show, they direct individual episodes. They're just like, we'll follow your damn trends, but we're gonna make it different. Gangster superhero movie. Have we had that yet? I don't know. Oh, what was that thing that was compared to Godfather? Oh, Black Panther. Yeah, there it is. There it is. There it is. We've already done it. It's done. We've already done it, guys. We've already done it. It's finished. What a stupid thing to say. If only you knew how to do slow-mo during the Toy Story e-fap all those years ago. I on the fly had to fucking Google how to do it. I've never done it before. But we got there. It's all soy. Did you see? Yeah, you control and you drag a little, yeah. Thanks for ripping this stuff apart, so I don't have to waste my time watching it. No problem. Couldn't. Yeah, you bet. It is, we would never want to subject you to that. When I was your age, there was no such thing as orcs. Is the rings of powers equivalent of I grew up surrounded by water? I don't remember what episode that was in. Do you guys think the old man is Saruman? Oh, well, we know now. Oh, I was about to say we know now. Technically speaking, they could still make it Saruman if they really wanted to, but there's several references to it being Gandalf at this point. Well, they're very proud of themselves. Yeah, people love it. Hello, patiently massives, patently massive folks. There you go. Awful writing. And they think they need to be spoon-fed everything. Galadriel is the worst among awful characters. Hi, rags. Hello. Pretty bad. She is definitely bad. As far as worst, it's tough to say what the worst character is. The thing is, she was at times pretty consistent. Like you'd expect her to say something really stupid, arrogant, and like not useful. And then she would and you'd be like, yeah, there it is. Yeah, that's her. Yeah. Not consistent at all. Every time she walked onto the screen, you're like, this bitch again. If they want us to think that this is taking place within continuity of the Peter Jackson movies, though, you've completely lost me. The Galadriel is a different gal. That ain't happening. Hi, rags. It's very easy to divorce this from the rings of power and the little rings. Also, hello. The only place thumbnail today is Pokemon Silver. Oh, let's see. I like that one. I'm guessing people are going to want to see it. Gives my precious light to the glass. I know I'm getting there. Here you go. Look at their legs. They're like little. Look at their little legs. They're fat, white, chunky bodies. Oh, man. See, that could, you know what? That could be funny. Like, I don't know if it would work. Can you imagine the three of us streaming like a playthrough of Pokemon Gold or something? I can, yeah. And I guess the idea would be that maybe it would be one controls and the other two just talk about decision making and what we can do next and stuff. Probably because, yeah, because those games are not. And then with every decision needs to be made, you know, you just do a vote system with three people as long as there's no, no, I defer to the other person, then you'd always get a decision. No, Deep Rock Galactic. Okay, okay, okay. We'll probably do that, too. Just saying. Just saying. Seeing. On a scale of one to 10, how happy would you be if the Halfords got wrecked? Oh, eight? When you say wrecked, I'm assuming you mean they get removed from the storyline. And I'm like, yeah, I mean, it'd be nice not to see them again. But the thing is, there's not exactly a storyline that I'm happy to see. Yeah, if anything we guys do during. That's the closest. Yeah, that one sucks. But at least it's the closest to the one that you'd like. Because I think it has the highest chance of having something of value. Because two, I think, I think essentially two of the three. Or is it? So yeah, two of the three actual good things in the show, which equates to probably less than five minutes had to do with during. So. Yeah. And they still ruin those as well. Yeah. What are you going to do? You're a nice one. And they are nice and those isolated moments that we got them at least. Good evening, gentlemen and high rags. Hello. Wings quarter of the day reading questions from chat. Who's got the best honey mustard out back? A few minutes later. Lol dog. I'm fat. You really think I don't know where the best honey mustard's at? The thing. Fat people know where he musted. All right. Fair enough. Have you guys watched midnight club yet? Thoughts I have. I thought it was fine. It was a tad long. Yes. I said it. I think it was a little bit awkward. A lot of it. Totally didn't quite match for what I thought it was going for. Is a supernatural elements the plot line. And by the end of it, they pretty much drop it entirely. And don't care about it, which I thought was a big shame because it was a nice mystery they were building up. The character stuff's pretty solid. I just wasn't that compelled by it. And it's a Mike Flanagan written and directed thing. And yet I'm not really recommending it to anybody. Fact. Fringy rags. Have you even heard me say you guys check it out? No, you've never said that. So that's my quick thoughts on it. I still, I guess, enjoyed it. And it's still better than a lot of TV shows out there. I just, yeah, I just didn't get many feels from it. I'm afraid. I've been watching EFAP for eight months now. And I'm now on EFAP 83. The CinemaSins slash wins Joker videos. Enjoy the day, my Ewoks, and have a truly epic, sincere, genuine, actual good day, my toxic brood. Oh, we'll do it. That was a neat little arc, the Joker arc. Yeah, I really, it was a swell movie. I enjoyed it. And the takes on it were terrible. Yes, they were. A lot of bad ones. He is. Got us a super sticker. Thank you very much. The people in Rings of Power are vessels that are empty that don't even qualify as characters. Um, the most part, yes, there's a couple of them, though, like. Mostly for just dumb and stupid. Yeah, because like, like I said, Galadriel is pretty characterized. She's a horrible person. Yeah, she's just shit. She has a character. Her character is just bad. There's a lot of those dumb. Yeah, Elrond is dumb. That's the thing. It's mostly characterized that these are just a bunch of dumb assholes. Yeah, Chekhov's Balrog. They'll be back. Hope you enjoyed. It's trailers worth of footage, which literally was used in the trailer. Mola, do you have at least three happy stories from the toy store? No, not really. Wow. The best things that would have happened there were just the brief conversations I had with one or two of the workers and one of the managers. Every time I spoke to the one out of four managers who was nice, it was a nice little reprieve, but working there was a nightmare who was constant and it was everything was always... You were always out of time, basically. Every job you were given you didn't have enough time for and then you'd be punished because you didn't complete it on the time. So it was absolute nightmare constantly. But hey, I guess the good memories would be like when you get to the end of your shift. That was always fun. Oh yeah, when you get to go home. Yeah, it was so annoying and shit there that even the whatever method of travel you're going home in would just be a really great part of the day. It's annoying, but hey. Which I assume for you is like the bus or something? It would be between walking or sometimes catching a train. It depended on how much money I had at the time. Okay. Devil fruit of the week is the kilo, kilo fruit. But again, the way this works is that whatever it's about to tell us we have to sacrifice swimming for allows the user to change their weight from one to 10,000 kilograms without in any way affecting their overall size of their bodies. Would you eat this fruit? Oh, I mean, can't hurt to be able to do that. I mean, if you don't swim, then I mean, might as well be able to have that ability. I don't even know that someone's trying to kidnap you. It could be very helpful. That's true. I'm trying to think of other uses for it. Yeah, let's think here. When would you want to be heavy? So you could make your could you make yourself lighter? It says weight from one to 10,000 kilograms. So you can so your weight can go as low as one kilogram. So I think that would probably be probably far more useful because if you're very light, then you might be able to you get better gas mileage in your car. Oh, and you can crush stuff, as someone said. You needed to do that. I don't if if that is a part of it. I mean, if you get super strength as a part of it. Yeah, I'll take that. Sure. A lot of people saying you be able to float on water, I guess at a risk of drowning. Yeah, I mean, you could. Yeah, like legitimately, because if you went, you wouldn't be heavy enough to you would displace more water than yeah, than what you weigh. So you'd literally float on water. You could if you had to get on something that was unsteady, you could get on top of it. And you wouldn't worry about bringing it down. My unsteady piece of like a like a a porch or a balcony or maybe a bed frame or a ladder, something like that. It'd be easy for someone to lift you up. If you needed to reach something, you can have someone lift you up and you can get up there or you just throw you because you're super light. And it means you could. Oh, you would you would never die from falling because if you made yourself like as light as a feather, then you would just land softly on the ground without any issues. I think I would take this one. Yeah, I feel like there's a couple of cool little interactions you can do on your day to day. And it's just fun to fuck around with it. They would just be fun to be able to jump super high and do things like that. I'm actually just one day and just fall slowly. You know, you you lower it. You just when you when you're falling really fast and you don't lower it enough and then just go splat and you're like, oh, well, that's me. Hopefully you'd be able to control it really well. So that's not how it works, rags. Well, it is to my understanding. I was going to say that's how we were presented it. So yeah, if you could change if you change your weight. We haven't seen this anime. Okay. Yeah, it seems like that would mostly affect all your weight. So if you change yourself to be super light and you jump off of something, then you will be carried away by the wind. Or you land very. Oh, dude, don't be so cool. You got like one of the windiest like hurricane type situations ever. Just make yourself entirely heavy. And you can be like, yeah, I'm a Chad. I can't be defeated by wind. People like, whoa. It would also make your inertia less too. So you could probably presumably turn faster in things like that. Or maybe not. I don't know. But someone's like, oh, yeah. Someone said, I love how rags would use superpowers to get better gas mileage. I'm like, you might as well. I mean, if you're in your car and you're driving and you could take off, you know, your body's worth of weight, essentially. If you're suggesting like literally better gas mileage. Wow, rags isn't like morally thingy enough to become like a vigilante or whatever. It's like, you understand becoming a vigilante is a very strange thing to do in our world. Yeah, I'd have to go around looking for crimes. As they are happening so that I could use my. And then hope you don't actually like obstruct actual justice in some way. Like, or get shot. Yeah, we'll get shot. You know, there's lots of superhero movies often don't like, you know. Someone said when rags gets laserized, he uses it to boil his bathwater to save on the gas bill. Yeah, why wouldn't you? Hey, man, why not? Yeah, go for it. Do it. But that's the thing with a lot of these powers. It would just be how would it make your mundane life better? You know, could you have fun with it? Would you be able to use it in some useful capacity? That's probably going to be 99.9% of its uses. Imagine how cinematic venom would have reviewed rings of power. He probably would have shot on it, I think. Because he does seem to like he would you sort of point out and search for flaws and stuff and there's plenty in rings of power. Many. Many. You guys should see the film Banshees of Inshirin or Inishirin. I want to see it, but I can't. It's not in my local theater, which is fucking lame, but what are you going to do? I don't even know what that is. It is the next movie from the guy who made In Bruges and Seven Psychopaths. Oh, nice. Those were both good movies. From the trailer, The Premises, Colin Farrell, and Brennan Gleason live in this like distant town, wherever it is. And they're friends. And then one day, Brennan Gleason says, I don't want to talk to you anymore. Don't talk to me anymore. And then he gets really upset with him and then he says, if you keep talking to me, I'm going to start chopping my own fingers off. That's like the premise. If you want to go see it. It's like, I'm sorry, what? It's like, well, I don't know. I usually like his stuff for his dialogue, so I'm willing to give it a shot. That was weird as hell. So it's a base. I don't want to talk to you anymore and if you talk to me, I'm going to chop my own fingers off. That's what I'm going to do. Also, high rags. Hello. This one says, why are you not talking about the finale? We were probably going through all of the episodes that we covered in one. We were covering, I think we did seven, eight, nine or eight and nine. Eight and nine is what we did. You had to wait. That tells you how far we are into that episode. Oh, and I'm a huge fan of Little Platoon. Huge. Well, that makes sense. He's a fun operator. Yeah. There is one dance I can picture this Galadriel doing. It's called The Hacker. I know The Hacker. What a certain rugby team do from New Zealand. The, in Guild Wars, too, if you choose to play as the master race, the Chara, of course. They're a very war-centered culture. They're very violent. They have a lot of, they're very, they have, I guess, they're very martial-focused culture. And if you do the dance emo, each race has their own dance and the Chara do The Hacker. That's their cultural dance. Neat. Presumably they would have, it's like a direct reference to the old Blacks one. Maybe, maybe not. The Hacker is how Jason Momoa got the role for Aquaman. I remember reading that somewhere. I don't understand how that makes any sense, but cool. Yeah, because I don't think he dances. He's from Hawaii, right? I don't know. Because I thought it was a Maori thing specifically, but maybe it's maybe it's like a broad Oh, it could be. Yeah. I just know it from rugby. But yeah, that's what I know from too. It's like the, yeah. The Hacker is a war dance. Don't just stand people do it in Boba Fett. I don't, I don't think so. Oh, you talk about the weird, I don't think that was a Hacker. I don't know what that was. It was weird. God, Boba Fett happened. That show did happen. That was such a. It did happen. It's hard to believe that as bad as it was, it was only the second worst Disney story. We were not prepared for Kenobi guys. We were not. They're just doing their job layer. That's just doing that. You say you do his voice pretty well. It's so funny. Everybody's turned on that show already. It was so bad. Have they? That's good. Yeah. I know it was really contentious when it came out relatively, but it's kind of, Boba Fett sort of was too. Boba Fett was a bit like 50-50, I think. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That was probably the first time that there wasn't a great response when it was coming out. But like Obi-Wan, people were defending it. But like at this point, people have come pretty soundly to the conclusion that it was a huge disappointment. And there's still, I think it's even bled into as well like people being like. People will say Mandalorian is still cool. But like even the love for Mandalorian is dampened because it's like. There's nothing to cling on to. That's the big problem with all the Disney stuff that got out there. It was just nothing to fucking rip you. Well, it's because what they're creating is not enduring. I don't know why anybody would be like wanting to watch, re-watch Obi-Wan Kenobi in the same way that, you know, people re-watch the prequels. I don't know. Absolutely. It's going to be like re-watching sequels, you know. Which, my God, imagine. What you're saying is absolutely true. That show had a grief-stricken like almost crying Kenobi dealing with the fact that he created Darth Vader that has annihilated his closest friend and apprentice and almost like son in a sense or I guess his brother. But like that scene is in there. Yep. It was. You know what I mean? Like, what are you guys doing? Squandering everything. No, I know what you mean. Like, it's there and yet it still wasn't able to make a lasting impact. And I think it's the reality is that the thing that makes it worthwhile for people is not the big moment alone, but the component pieces that prop up those big moments. It like, it's, I don't know. Yeah, I think the fundamental problem is that it's treated as like content that needs to come out and like whether it gets talked about afterward is like irrelevant. As long as it's in the game. Yeah, it made its money. It did its job. Yeah, basically. It retained subscribers for a few months and you know, probably grew the platform. That's all that matters. Like whether or not anybody talks about it in a year. Yeah, it doesn't matter. We've already moved on to the next thing. Yeah. Well, yeah, pretty much by the time it's done, you move on to the next thing and you forget the cycle. I imagine that like that will happen. I don't know. I guess with Marvel, you look towards the future. It's like, I'm not sure how many of those projects are like inherently kind of things that people get hyped for. Like Ant-Man, you know, like who's going to get hyped for Ant-Man 3? Or Echo? Like, I don't really see that happening. But I guess, you know, who knows, the cycle may or like the Marvels. I don't I don't see that. Maybe that will be like a very trying time where they can't rely on the name recognition of their characters to hype up the series. Oh, you never said that Galadriel didn't go Super Saiyan guards and fight. Oh, Jesus, the formatting on here is all fucked. Didn't fight Sauron in a battle to the death inside an exploding supernova. That's true. They didn't say anything about it. Which means it could have it totally could have happened. They had the scene because they wanted to mimic the Frodo and the Ringwraith scene. Bad robot people seem to like the to ape the source material. What I find so interesting about that there is a fine as fuck line between doing something like they did in that last episode with the creepy weird magic people. And then everyone being like, are you trying to like fucking copy and paste the Ringwraith right now? Is that what you're doing? You cringy show. While in something we love that's doing like a really meaningful scene and they call back to something like Weathertop or something like that. And then we'll be like gushing over and explaining the connection is so meaningful. But I'm just thinking myself. Yeah, we see it as respectful. And yeah, instead of copying like an actual just unreference to it in a way. Something like that. And I imagine so many writers that shit will be like, well, why? Why does the mind look like that? It's like, yeah, because yeah. Why does the mind look like that? Oh, why is it so hard? Why? I love that. It's so funny. Such a great like, because you know, in the actual episode, it's just a normal thing for Hobo, right? So of course he can't build something well. He's left his own devices, but it's such a great little commentary on just artists that are trying. Why does the mind look like that? In Rings of Power, they contradicted the Lord made Muriel blind. In Netflix Witcher, they want they went against the law and didn't make Yennefer blind after Sodden. Well, all right. What's interesting to me is that if the shows were really good and they still did those things, people would forgive them. So what I'm finding about a lot of what people consider the inaccuracies of God of War Ragnarok, the more people who are completing and going through the storyline, the less they're caring about how much it's like a departure. They're like, man, I like this version, though it's kind of. But of course, we've talked about this before when you depart from certain things, it'll have ripple effects where you may not realize you got to be careful. You got to know why it was built the way that it was built before you can build it a different way. Yep. I'll just say this from Rings of Power one, it sucks too much to be considered canonical and Tolkien's legacy is intact. Two, future writers see everything they shouldn't do. Three, laughter. That's actually true. It's good though, it gets to a point of so bad that nobody talks about it as though it's canon. It's like, no. Yeah, it's very easy for your mind to divorce it from the rest of the things. I also think like Tolkien's legacy always remains intact. Like, I don't know that it can be because it's always there's always his work that like persists and people can see this kind of for what it is. Yeah. It's a shame though, I guess that it's like, you know, it's they didn't know the guy, the Zazzler, the new guy in charge of Warner Brothers, isn't he said that like they still own the film rights to Lord of the Rings. So he may well want to have Warner Brothers start up their own Lord of the Rings film series. It's like, man. It's funny. I actually think that's probably a bad move, just re-release or something, something more reliable to make money because something remaster them. If you even tried to make films out of Lord of the Rings again. Looming over everything you do is the Peter Jackson ones. So yeah. Yep. The rags 2.0 plus he is mine. Ho ha ha ha ha. Oh, was it? Good. Thanks for getting one. I don't know, but maybe it was. We were talking about the last Rings of Power episode, I feel like it wasn't even out then, but all right. I don't, yeah, I don't think it was. Interesting. Oh well. The last episode was legit comedy. The volcano one was probably the funniest to me. It's so bafflingly stupid. The most I laughed was relatively early on with the, when all the elves were captured at the tree. That's when I laughed the most. That whole scene was hilarious. Yeah. With them flailing around and it was just funny. Problem is Gandalf in the Fellowship clearly states he hasn't had the chance to go against a Balrog yet. Is that in the book or the movie? Because I don't quite remember that in the movie. Had a chance to go against a Balrog. Obviously, if that's- I do not know. If that's true, then yeah, they're gonna have to really dance around that when they get to, you know, the next seasons of this show. Avoid him getting anywhere near it. In Rings of Power, oh wait, I read that one. Just gonna say um, oh wait, that's... Sorry, I'm backwards a bit here. Where am I going? Last episode was a jit comedy. I got you. All right, now... My boyfriend asked me after ending if the Silmarils are in the Three Rings now. That says it all. Oh, do you mean that says it all in terms of nobody understands what the fuck is going on? Yeah, I'd agree with that. I still can't believe that those Three Rings were apparently originally. The plan was to put them into one crown. Like, did you see the size of those rings? Yeah. Gonna be a thin crown. Watching Rings of Power feels like something I was forced to watch at my Christian elementary school. Damn, I think Bible Man is better than this. Sorry. I'm sure the message is clearer and more solid in terms of like a moral thing than... I don't know what he's supposed to gate out of Rings of Power. It's kind of worrisome in that way. Rags, would you like more Tris Yen or Shani? Luckily, he was able to answer that one actually. Yeah. Um... Spoiler, but when did Sarron get lanced? So, the defense I've heard for this is that he's a self-inflicted wound. That he... He hoped she would get him two elves because he was gonna stab himself in such a way that he needed elven medicine which means it would be like a death blow for a... You know, his kind, so to speak. It's very strange because it's like... Yep. So, he was gonna die from it? And it's like, well, I don't know because he's kind of like not a human. And so, he just said, you know, I don't fucking know what's going on. Apparently, he got stabbed right in the middle of the volcano attacking everybody with his smog cloud. I don't understand how, but that's what happened. Ran off into the corner, stabbed himself, threw himself onto the road and went, help! I have been stabbed by a dork. Oh, dear. I think admitting that they made the entire series to give the middle finger to the fans is worse than even calling as patently evil. Uh, was that... Oh, I guess they're comparing what, like, with She-Hoffer, they said that that was like one of the best stated goals was to... Middle finger the fans. I, um, I don't know if there's anything worse than calling someone patently evil, is there? Well, yeah, I mean, you're basically condemning them fundamentally, right? You're like, inherently a person who will commit to bad decisions. That's... I know it sounds... On the basis of what? Because you don't like their show. Yeah. Like... Like, it sounds like a chill insult, but that's probably the worst thing you can say to a person in terms of what it means. Well, yeah, that that seems to be like a stark example of if someone's like, fuck you, they'd be like, whoa! But then, you know, in that case, what's been said there is way harsher. Yeah, they're like, your entire life's work is kind of embarrassing and really shallow. I think you need to reassess the way you do it and you just go, fuck off. And then they go, holy shit, you're mad. I know. Yeah. As opposed to the guy who's like, I thought that was kind of shitty, but, you know, you tried your best. It's like, whoa! Wow, dude. It's like, yeah. I mean, I guess, I guess to me, I find I just find like the whole, we wrote the show to insult like the people who didn't like our show. It's kind of like this weird sort of self-own where like, you've ultimately tailored your show around the people that you just like, like they've had a substantial impact on what you've created, you know? I assume you're talking about She-Hulk. Yeah. The, it comes across as extremely insecure. Yes. Yeah. And I guess, because someone would be like, well, wait, you're saying like, you can't make fun of a group of people? It's like, yeah, you can. I think it's just, there's a certain tone. It's the way you go about it in your goals. Yeah. Because I mean, South Park makes fun of tons of people, right? But I would never look at South Park as a show that's insecure. That's like a show that's very secure in what it wants to be and what it's trying to be. I think that, I guess I would say that the tone that you get with She-Hulk is very defensive. Yeah. As opposed to irreverence, which I think irreverent is the way that you can sort of make fun of people who, you know, you dislike or, in a way that doesn't feel like it's them tainting something that you've created in a way that's detrimental to you and your own health. Yeah. It's not personal. It's just, it's this attitude of everyone gets their turn to be made fun of. We will make fun of everybody. No one's safe instead of we're specifically, like, you know the people who wrote She-Hulk. There are absolutely groups and such that will not be made fun of. Oh, well, someone in chat put it well, a visual rent free, if you will. It's like, yeah, pretty much. Like, you're, you're imagined, sort of, you're imagined enemy as immortalized in your show in a way that I'm sure in a way that was pretty embarrassing. That show is embarrassing. Like, I don't know if I would I wouldn't describe a lot of like, like, I don't know if I'd say multi versus madness is like an embarrassment. It's horrendous. It's terrible. Maybe for like, Michael Waldron it's a little bit She-Hulk is I totally get what you're getting at because like, Michael Waldron, he's writing a story of like, an action packed adventure through time and space with all these wizards doing all kinds of awesome things and is a, there's a heart to this that's about real, like identity and understanding the, the value of life, whatever it's like, what he's done isn't quite as embarrassing as what they've done, which is allow all of their insecurities to bleed onto the page. Like, he is just really bad at his work. Right, whereas they are really bad at what they did, but like, their idea fundamentally was pretty misguided. Yeah. Like, I, man, like that show is like, oof. Like, oh boy. Do your daily, it's your, it's your reminder that when it comes to Disney, things can always get worse. Yeah. I was not expecting it to be that bad. I gotta tell you, like I was not expecting that. No. Um, I wasn't expecting that to be that bad. I wasn't expecting rings of power to be as bad as it was. No, rings of power, I, yeah, that, because that just like, I, yeah, the, the worst it was gonna get, I thought was gonna be as bad as episode one and two were, where I was like, yeah, this is just, this is the rock bottom of this show where it's just nothing's happening and no one cares about anything. But then it, it didn't. Oh boy, it changed. Oh boy, Just gonna say rags. Did you say it? Last episode has to be the best delivered line on EFAP ever. It has me laughing for so long. Also, hi rags. Hello. Was that a reference too? Which line is this? Did you say it? Well, so this is episode 209. So they're referring to 208. And I assume that was possibly rings of power or she Hulk. Let me double check. I don't know. EFAP 208, that is dissecting rings of power or some bismuth. Sixth episode. But this spuru and the little platoon. Did you say it? Someone in chat might know. If you can remind me what that is, please do. Because I just can't quite recall. Please control the Wongers in chat, Moeller. Can't control them. They, they do as they will. They won all the Wongs. They won a Wong. To be fair to Durin, third let them rot is what Dwarves do to other races. EFAP 93, never forget. Oh, do you mean like we understand that the law of the Dwarves is to let everyone die to kill everybody who's friendly with them? That is something we learned from Gimli. So Gimli was friendly with all the fellowship except two specific hobbits. I'm not sure what we were supposed to gather from that. You know, he just wanted them dead. I don't hear boys ready for Amazon's fallout film slash series. Yes, it's real and it makes me wish for nuclear winter. Iraq. Yeah, the fallout. I am ready to I'm curious. I'm just curious because fallout has a very I do. I think it'll be shit, of course, but I'm curious what it will be because fallout has a very distinct sort of vibe to it in terms of the, you know, the culture of that world and its aesthetic. So I'm interested to see what they'll do with it, though I would be shocked if it was good. What I'm curious. Adaptations of because now there's going to be a Gears of War film like Oh, yeah, that's right. series. I mean, honestly, hot take. I feel like Gears of War was always going to be better as a film or a TV show than it is as a game. Is that a hot take really? I don't know. Probably. Gears was going to you're saying Gears is was always going to be better as a film than a game. It feels that way because I just I'm not impressed with Gears mechanics, basically. The only reason I want to play it with you is because of nostalgia memories and I enjoy playing games with people. It will be interesting to see you play the first one and then play five. OK, yeah. Because obviously this is where we started to this is where it is now because the first one is especially the original version is downright Clark. So I just looked up so fall out. The TV show is being developed by Lisa Joy and Jonathan Nolan. Does that make Who would I know those names? Well, they made Westworld. That pair made Westworld. The pilot episode is really good. Well, sure. But they were also like executive producers right until the end. Right. So like they're on the hook for that, surely. I love the announcement of the show ending. Everybody's just like it's still going. Yeah. OK. Fine. We'll leave almost currently quite expensive considering the cost and like how I guess like grand it is. That's one of those like someone awkwardly tries to mention how they're leaving the party and then someone just goes you still here. And they're like OK. Yeah, I'll go. Todd Howard is an executive producer, which I guess that doesn't. But what does that mean? That doesn't mean anything to me, honestly. Well, funnily enough, absolutely nothing. Executive producer, like sometimes executive producer seems to be like more vague than a producer. Like as a title, you know what I mean? Like like Kevin Feige is a producer. He's often credited as the producer or a lot of the films. And then there'll be a longer list of executive producers. But it's like how, you know, I'm pretty sure that the rock was an executive producer on Shazam just by virtue of the way that contracts work while he was getting ready to be in Black Adam over the last 15 years. So you just got that credit. Isn't that is not fascinating that you get the credit of executive producer and it could just be like through just contraction arrogance rather than like direct participation in the development of the show. Yeah. We get those shows that have like a dozen producers and stuff in them. Like isn't this our track? Yeah, the Star Trek ones are hilarious. There are like 60 people who are that. I remember the one that I found. You know how like, because of course when I watched The Simpsons all the time, you'd see the three names, right? Matt Groening, James L. Brooks and Sam Simon. Yeah. And of course I knew that like Matt Groening was like the creator essentially. I'm pretty sure that James L. Brooks was like never very significantly involved in like the production of that show, but more that he was instrumental in it getting off the ground. And I distinctly remember a thing where it was like Sam Simon who hasn't been involved in that show since like season four. I can't remember where I saw it, but he talked about how for a while he felt like his contributions were undervalued, but now he feels like his contributions to that show are overvalued because he still gets paid for it even though he hasn't been involved in it for a long time. I could be wrong, but I distinctly remember that like as an interesting thing that that wouldn't we'd like to lead where your involvement in a show however significant. In fact, let's just go with a hypothetical vision instead that you you may be contributed to its first episode in terms of writing and organizing people to get it done. And then you like leave and that show evolves into this enormous thing and your stake is big enough that like 50 years odd or something you'll just still get a regular payments. And so you just never had to do anything in your life to make it work for money. You just got it. It's because Sam Simon actually passed away in 2015 and apparently he bequeathed there's a hundred million dollar estate to a bunch of charities. Oh, that's good. I damn like yeah like I can't remember where I saw it exactly but it was that he was just not involved with it for like a very long time afterward but because of the nature of him being like the developer of the show. Yeah, he was on the show up until like 1993 but executive producer credit and then everything that goes along with it. Guys, this is why the linens were so important they were needed for bandages. Oh linens sorry. Well, all right. The linens. Yep, they could use them for bandages. Yeah, you could. Also, thank you all for the incredible content in general from all of you. Little platoon, thanks for the JWD video. Jurassic World Dominion that's what that is, isn't it? Still have to see it. What a great movie, I'm sure it is. I'm just certain. I found it on I found it on Leol Wikipedia where before he left the show he negotiated a deal that saw him receive a share of the show's profits every year, particularly from home media and executive producer credit despite now having worked on the show since 1993. The deal means he made over 10 million dollars a year from The Simpsons. Oh my God. And he later told Stanford Magazine that tens of millions was a closer figure. He commented when I was there I thought I was underpaid. I thought I wasn't getting enough credit. Now I think it's completely the opposite. I get too much credit and the money is ridiculous. That is ridiculous. Okay, you don't add a ton of it to charity though. Yeah. Okay. What a chad. What a chad. Yeah. Doesn't making Isildur a bumbling idiot lessen the corrupting power and narrative weight of the one ring? The one way they can escape that is we've got four more seasons of development that they can, you know, turn them into something else, right? But who knows what they're up to? But, I mean, is there any reason to be optimistic? No. Because like the only thing I was watching it where I'm like, is that the Isildur? Like, is that it? But like, the Isildur, you know? Yeah. And, well, just loser. People are now wondering the fact that he died in that fire is like, oh, is it someone he's fucked already and they're gonna have a kid that's called Isildur and that's gonna be the actual one or something? Like, what are they doing right now? Is it, you can't bait that the real guy is dead unless you're gonna do some crazy shenanigans. Why do that? I just don't get it. You can, you're gonna have much more success baiting death of characters who we really don't know the fates of. Like I said, you can do it. But why would you choose to do that instead of someone who's new and specific to the show? I don't know. His fucking dad didn't even go and look for him. Ooh. Yeah, what a mess. Take my money, massives. Very well. Thank you very much. The only thing you can trust a half foot with is a stab in the back and then one in the throat. Peace. Them half-foot's, man. I believe it. They'll steal your wheels and leave you to die. If you visit them, just keep a hand on your wallet in your pocket. Just make sure, make sure you got it. All right, it's beautiful. Brings of power is an abomination made for a brain-dead modern audience that can't tell chocolate cake from a dog turd. If you say the show is good, you're either special, insane, a shill, or a bot. Hate. Well, I struggle to find the idea that anybody could be passionate about it. I just don't, I just don't see that happening. Yeah, I want to know what it is specifically. What is it that you find so compelling about this show? Little character. It's unreal. How the fuck can the Half-foot's even survive a community as a community? For a population this small, even a single loss would be a catastrophe in real life. God, the show is so stupid. Yeah, a lot of media does that. That's true. Well, look at the Black Panther Wakanda forever. Wasn't it like seven people that apparently generated an entire civilization? It's like, ow. You guys do the thing with the... Yep, they sure did. But don't think about it. Yeah, because I was going to say, you can't even say like, well, they recruited more, I guess. And it's like, well, you can't, right? Because they only had the one flower. And besides, I'm not even sure. You know, if someone came up to you and said like, you want to become a fish person living below the sea, he was like, uh... I don't know. Oh, my God. I'm gonna... I don't know. I just don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure. You... Amazons, the rings of power, the desolation of brain cells. Yeah, a little bit. It's an adventure. You keep saying journey, Mola, but there's more than one person. It's an adventure. I learned a lot. Yeah, that thing. That was from that show, right? Yeah, that was from The Wizard Man. God, that line was dumb. Gary has the deleted by Discord curse. Hi rags. Hello. Someone's gotta get it at some point, all right. Where's Cumsfield? It's just his Prezi time. Mordor is the elvish name meaning dark land, given when Morgoth created the volcano. Why wouldn't Adar use Orc-ish? They don't even think about context. I don't know. I... Because... Because remember Mordor? That's why. I remember Mordor. Good. I'm really glad you do. Because we called the dark place Mordor. Welcome to Mordor. Population, lots. Random Orc on the side. Hello, welcome to Mordor. I'm Lots. You're not one of those half-foot Zarya. They're evil. We don't let them in here. They're way too evil for us. Yeah, that works, sir. Units need to address Superchats in real-time, or may a clockwork orange viewing of She-Hulk eternally be your fate. Dude, if we did them in real-time, the conversation would be so fucked up. Because it would have to be like someone's on a roll, ripping into rings of power, and then I read something that's about something else, and then we start talking about that, and then that person's like, oh, I'll just wait forever, and then their power level is gone. But now we can focus heavily on them. Odd core, even. I found an animal I need for you to see, the black rain frog. The black rain frog. Yeah, I wanted to see that. Oh yeah, he's the funny-looking frog. Oh yeah, that guy. The grumpy-looking frog. No, he's always in memes. Yeah, he is, he's great. I love him. I would have, it's where I eat the inflection. I would have said black rain frog, but you said black rain frog. Yeah. That is interesting. Rain frog versus black rain frog. Yeah, I guess- A frog of black rain, or a black rain frog. What is a rain frog? Frog that likes rain? What does it mean to be a rain frog rather than a hail frog or a sunshine frog? You want a sunshine frog or a dry-out, right? It's so grumpy. Look at him. Oh, maybe he's not. Maybe he's thrilled, and it's just us projecting our emotional slate onto him, you know? Yeah, like he'd be like, I'm fine, actually. Yeah, I'm very content. You know, compared to you fucking humans, like, I got all my shit sorted. I know what I am. I got my hole in the mud. I got my cricket every once in a while, and I'm just, that's all I need. I got everything I could ever want, and I'm happy with my lot in life, and I like you guys. Before you could even talk to him about it, he's like, you got to try to convince me you're happy? Are you? You're like, geez. Still out, Mr. Frog. The black rain frog and Bilbo's rain frog. He- I was able to stay Lord of the Rings related. Wait, Bilbo has a rain frog? The one rain frog to rule them all. Whoa. What's worse? They're just broken. This lame ring forging or the infinity stone paper weights? Oh. The infinity stone paper weights. It's got to be the paper weights, man. Do you think that this terrible content is being made out of laziness or because it creates controversy? I'm pretty sure it's incompetence and laziness and stuff because you can try and get your attention through controversy. But like, wouldn't it be better to get attention through being good? Isn't that like the goal? You want to get that? Nobody like sees Lord of the Rings and Godfather and whatever else and goes like, you know, they were popular because of how much controversy they stood up. Not the fact they were great and everyone loved them. Yeah, that wasn't it. That's lame. We don't do that. You- oh wait. I'm a goldsmith. Gold can't be an ally. It's extremely soft. Melted her whole dagger together. Steel and gold. Rings, stones were sat horrifically. These stones will never stay in place. It looks awful. I wouldn't even- they should- someone- there's a job for someone. You know, they do like doctor reacts and lawyer reacts. Like you could have a smith reacts to, you know, stuff like that. That's an idea. Be painful, but you could do it. Oaken's premise for his stories was that fantasy matters. His essays written before Lord of the Rings was debunking all the belittling arguments against fantasy. This Tolkien guy sounds cool. Yeah, he should write a- I don't know, like a fantasy series or something. He could probably make a good one. I agree. If I have an adversary who straps proximity explosives to themselves and is found in a mineshaft, is it apt to call him an enemy of mine? Get it? Proximity explosives strapped to himself. In a mineshaft, enemy of mine. And he's in a mine. So he- like he hates the mine. He's an enemy of the mine itself? Well, enemy of me, slash, you know, me, an enemy of the mine in terms of he's gonna blow it up and hit it, but also enemy of mine as in he is an enemy and he is of mines. Like he's got explosives that detonate through proximity. But why proximity? Well, because they can make that joke. There you go. Hmm. Wong comments a 10 out of 10. Oh, there you go. We have a lot of Wong. There was a lot of Wong talk in a chat. A lot of Wong. I thought half the finale was gonna be a slow-motion shot of Nori handing Gandalf an orange. Well, half of it was her saying goodbye to a friend, right? Well, it's saying goodbye to everybody. That scene just kept going. Oh boy, it went and went and went and went. The only thing that didn't went was them leaving. Yep, thankful. You playing Dark Pictures with Metal this Halloween? That was the original plan. Then we found out how shit the quarry one is. And then we found out how shit the new one's gonna be. And we were like, you know what? It'll be better to just do it in person because of how shit it all is. It's unfortunate, but it also is a reality. So you'll see it, but not right now. Hi, everyone, but rags. Oh, what? But hello, which do you choose? When you die, you get a reincarnated into a random deep sea creature or an apex predator insect. Also, hi rugs. Hi. Oh gosh, that's tough. I don't want to be either of them. The insect world is shit. It's a horrifying, terrible hellscape. Yes. With no mercy, with no morals, with no... It's just the worst. But a deep sea might just be as bad. I don't know enough about it. Yeah, in the dark of the deep sea, uh... It also got that haunting element to it, yeah. Probably at that point. Probably the insect. Then again. Because I could like see and stuff and I could like hang out in the world, at least up top. Like Jesus Christ, what if you got attacked by an army of ants at some point or one of those creepy brain things? The insect world is terrifying. Yeah, that's the thing. In the hell world. That's tough. What was the choice between, sorry? Deep sea creature or an insect? I think I would go for deep sea creature. Seems like it would be a solitary life, but a relatively uneventful life. Yeah, probably. That's precisely my issue. It seems as like maybe I don't know enough about the horrors of that, too. Well, the reality is that not many things live down there. But then how would it feel to live down there? Would it be our brains as they are right now? I... Well, the problem is if it became like an insect brain, I don't think I'd be able to understand the horror of this situation really, right? Neither probably for the deep sea creature. They're probably chill, too. We're sure, but like the deep sea creature's life is probably less painful. Probably. We presume. Because if you are an apex predator insect, you could still get fucked up by like birds and things. An ant, like even if you're an apex predator, a bunch of ants can overwhelm like any predator. But as long as you don't wander into the ants, they get unlucky, I guess, though. I guess you could get unlucky, but still. Like if you were like a spider on a web hanging out there, or... But then those fucking humans will come along and mess you up sometimes. Maybe, maybe. Or if you were just like a tarantula and you just sit in your hole for 99% of your life and every once in a while you grab yourself a bug. But I mean, I bet some of them have really short lifespans, too. So maybe... Like if you, for instance, if you were a 17-year... Well, that's not an apex predator, but just as an example. If you were a cicada, a 17-year locust, you'd spend like 16-plus years just sitting in a hole in the ground and then you get a little bit of time to fly around on the outside. But really? That's a lifespan? Damn. Yeah, it's weird. As far as I know, you're a locust. Or as we call them here, we call them the pherosicadas. The periodical cicadas require either 13 or 17 years in the nymph stage developing underground. Wow. So... And they mature very slowly. So that's a... Their 17-year lifespan makes them the longest-lived insect known. How long have they lost in the moving around form? Uh, let me see. After the shed and shells and fro... Within a few days, they remain alive for approximately three to four weeks. That seems like a strange exchange rate, but all right. Yeah, 17 years in the ground and then three to four weeks flying around in the air. Yeah. Bizarre. What a strange... What a bizarre creature to have that life cycle. Um, Wong Tu Wonga Dongadoo. Nice. Hi, everyone. Uh, oh wait. Sorry, this is the one I read. It's the insect one. And it ended with high rugs. Hello. Wushing intensifies. Ugh, I hate subtitles for a multitude of reasons. Only Dumbos or Deaths watch subtitles outside of foreign media. Also, play DDLC. I love subtitles. I like subtitles too. I disagree. I... I... They always keep me up to date with things I might be missing or misinterpreting. They're beautiful. I love them. Kisses. And sometimes you get a quiet movie, or you might be in a room where things are happening, and it's good to be able to have that just in case. Or maybe you just have a... Yeah, that's a terrible actor or actress who just can't pronunciate well. Or a muffled tone. Yeah. This magic will be perfect when it fits a woman. Oh! Classic line from a classic show. Get wrecked in cells. Can we make this the new I Stepped on Lego meme? The fact that I'm not sure what you're referring to means it probably won't be. Yeah, it probably won't be. Sorry. Middle Witch is literally Boney from Trapdoor. I don't know who that is. I don't know if I recognize that. Trapdoor? Is that like a movie or a TV show? Boney. Let me get you a picture. I see. Let me say Middle Witch. They're talking about the Lita one, right? Don't open that. Don't open that Trapdoor by Burke, Boney and the Boys. So let me... This is what I'm getting. That's Boney. Well, I guess I can see the likeness. Trapdoor. Oh yeah, it's a little claymation thing. Y'all remember Gumby? Yee. Nar. Yeah, I remember Gumby. I don't, actually. Thanks, gents, for doing all the dirty work and watching this tripe for us. Mushy, mushy rags. Oh, mushy, mushy what? I don't know. Some things are good with your mushy, like mashed potatoes. Some things are not good if they're mushy. Like peas? To a degree, you expect them to get mushy very quickly. Yeah, there's a mush rating that you're gonna want. Yeah, but you don't want them... You don't want pea mush. You want all the individual peas distinct from one another in a pile. One that you could reach your hand into and you could... It's not mush, but they very, very quickly become mush as you chew them. They're almost instantaneously they become mush. Mushy. I'm annoyed that Durin said Disa found the Mithril. Well, she did with her singing or whatever. You could pick it up through the harmonization of the walls. Or something, it was kind of difficult to understand. Um, the guy who's obviously Sauron is Sauron? Mind blown. That's such a weird choice, but yeah, he's Sauron. Big, big scary. Oh no. Yeah, that's him. I will show you fear in a handful of dust. They were ripping off T.S. Eliot, the Wasteland. I will show you fear in a handful of dust. I don't even remember that line. Or is that the good line and there's one they were referencing? They made everyone incompetent so that Galadriel can figure it out. It's primo garbage writing as if they only had one season to work with. Well, she didn't figure anything. The information she got should not have led her to the conclusion she got. It turns out he lied. He he's not as part of that lineage. And it's like, oh, the one that he said he wasn't a part of already. I guess he must be Sauron. What? She figured it out, I guess. Okay. Are all of the rings evil or is it just the one ring? I don't know much about the law. I assume it's that they are they built with a one ring that allows the one ring to control them or influence them. Because because like Galadriel, she knew that like about the one ring and she also had her own ring, but she didn't get rid of her her ring. Yeah. So I assume that the individual rings themselves are not evil. In fact, they are probably beneficial to have, but the big baddie one, that's bad. That's a that's a bad ring. That's some no, it's a bad juju jewelry. Jackson's trilogy took quite a bit of liberties when it came to the law and it was still good. Yeah, that's what I feared. They didn't use new forge was Celebrimbor's place. I thought that, oh, I thought that was the new forge. No, I think you're right. Yeah, that would have been an older one because they knew one was or was it in a rag? I can't remember anymore. I'd have to rewatch it. I don't plan to do when season two comes around. You guys going to rewatch season one? That's funny. Sorry. Someone in chat, I caught it. Someone said, guys, you should look up the biggest cockroach in the world. The rags would get a kick out of it. So I did. I looked up biggest cockroach in the world. And boy, it made me laugh. Megaloblata longy pedis. They knew what they were doing. They knew what they were doing. The band journey is a solo act, ranks writers. All right. Someone tell Mr. Bezos to stop taking Tolkien's toys out of the toy box if he's just going to break them. Yeah, that would be that would be the way forward in it. Let's take care of the toys, put them back in the box then so that people can play with them instead of just ruining everything and peeing in the box. That's not what you're supposed to do. You have way more confidence in the writing than I do. If you think Galadriel will learn anything. Well, she will not learn anything. She learned who Sauron was. That was lending. Yeah, she became aware of new information or something like that, I guess. That's pretty cool. It's very cool. It's amazing. It's super awesome. Now the elven rings are made even before the practice rings for the dwarves and men. What will the next season cover in the Rings of Power series? No, some horseshit. Probably gonna have something to do with the Balrog. I don't even. Yeah, that's the thing. It feels like it's going to be a delay until they get to do whatever the hell they want to do. I think they want to end it by like leading into the Jackson trilogy or something. They will jangle as many keys as they're allowed to. Yeah. I'm sure Aragorn will pop up at some point as a little boy. Hey guys, it's me. Who is it? What will you name your son? I will name him Aragorn. Aragorn. Aragorn. Yeah, I don't forget. Stop rolling your Rs. And fucking Legolas, you'll probably turn up and they'll DH, Orlando Bloom, pay him to be you. Pretty dearie me. Um, Glad. Oh, Gladriel and Sauron reminds me of Master Cheeks and McKee. Oh, don't remind me, God. Good ol' Halo show. Oh, that show fucking hell. Yeah, Halo. That was the thing that happened. Yeah, that was in their filming season. So it's happening coming out. And I'm sure, you know, one of the things that really pissed me off in that show is like, you have like Halo, which is a franchise that is like well regarded for its music. And like for it to have like this incredibly generic soundtrack is one thing. But so like then, like for one instance in the show, actually use like the Halo music and totally butcher it like in the way that you use it. It's only 10 seconds long and it's absolutely butchered. Like several other elements of the song are so loud that it actually drowns out the melody. Like that really bugged me. And I remember like people were like, oh, they're playing the music. It's like, yeah, I guess I am. Because they are. It's like, yeah, I guess they are. But I then again, considering the tone of the show, like I don't even know if like you could even use a lot of the music from the games and have it work. There's like a very sort of. I mean, it's very not Halo. Well, yeah, because the keywords that are that Marty said that he used to basically come up with the theme for the series. And I think carries through the rest of it is ancient alien and epic, like those three keywords. And I think that that comes through pretty clearly in one of the songs. Definitely. Like Covenant Dance, for example. I'm not sure if you know what that one sounds like. Other of you. I would have heard it. I can't know. Like that's that's kind of like the melody. It's like this really interesting song in that it's like not. It's very atypical for what is like music that would be playing during an action sequence. There's like a lot of songs that will play in action sequences like oddly soothing and calm. Like like, damn, what was it? Oh my God, I can't believe I'm it's. No, it wasn't called through the trees. I think that was the the new the new rendition that they had in Halo. Inferno. What was it called? Halo? Oh, I walk in the woods like that's like this really chill calming sort of song. And it's great. And it like matches the tone that they have of you basically being on this like mysterious world that's kind of like beyond your comprehension, but you hear anyway, maneuvering through it. Yeah, yeah. And I don't know that you could ever have that for that show because that show is so devoid of many of like the core aspects of that series. Like if anybody actually came up to me and said, I think it retains like the core of the series, I would be baffled and kind of annoyed. Like if someone said that it's just totally is complete and that's it's fine. You could have made something different than what you made suck. So it makes it really annoying. Yeah, a little bit. Sorry, I'll just I'll keep complaining about that show until to the end of forever. Oh, yeah, because it's it's terrible and it sucks. And Halo is better. The ending of the show is John Halo letting himself be killed so that Cortana can take over his corpse to save the day. Like, what is that? And it's so funny because I was like, ah, he's broken. It's like, dude, she saved the day. Like that show consistently proves Halsey Wright, despite the fact that the show believes that she's wrong. It's remarkable. I don't think they even realize that that's what they've done. The people who ultimately like her grand goal with the Cortana, like as a project was to essentially fuse her intelligence with his physical capabilities to save the day. And that's exactly what happens at the end of the season. And they're like, ah, see, he's broken. It's like, maybe it's interesting to explore the fact that this apparently broken person like ultimately saved the universe. Like whatever your perception is about like him being broken or whatever, or like the intrinsic value of humanity. Like one of the uncomfortable questions that you've got to try and get around is that like her utilitarian approach yielded a result that saved like potentially all life in the galaxy. In fact, almost certainly did. And that's of course putting to one side all of the insane like bullshit that happened in that episode anyway. The Cortana let them all get killed before she brought in the Pelican to wipe out the Covenant forces when that was always something she could have done. Or like, man, how lucky was it that Mackie when she like emits the shock wave that blows all of the fucking elites off the mountain? Like why is that something that the Keystone can do? It's a map. Sorry. I could keep going for ages. Oh, it's very bad. Yes, it is. So I think we've just completed EFAP 209's ones, which moves us over to 204, which is more rings of power. Exciting. Yes. Brungle, rags. Is there any way we could get a horsemen of PC gaming revitalization or possibly an EFAP reunion in the future? It would be a nice thing to see the old peeps together again. Yeah, I mean, yeah. That's not a bullet. Bulletberry and Top Hat, you know, they're still going at it. So yeah, there's no reason we couldn't do that. That's my idea. Could be something to do. Maybe when I maybe want to get back to being a bit more regular on YouTube in terms of my uploads and stuff could do some streams here and there. I'd hate to, you know, get into streaming stuff when, you know, before I guess I've established, you know, the videos are coming back. So the recent two ones are a big part of that. And I'm not going to be working on any until the new PCs here. But that's Tuesday, maybe Wednesday. So we're almost there. But yeah, that's not something I'm opposed to. I know that streaming is definitely something I've thought about doing for a while. So we'll see what becomes of that. Sweet. I've watched so much EFAP that the logo is burned into my phone screen. What do I win? Um, oh, I mean, I mean, the satisfaction of having all of this incredible content delivered to you for free on your phone already one, where you can watch it at work in the car, on the bus, on your walks at family gatherings and other special occasions, weddings, funerals, bar mitzvahs, you name it. Like I said, you've already won. Don't you worry. That is also don't worry about it being burned into the screen. It will go away. Just don't have it be there consistently. But it will eventually go away. Um, I've watched so. Oh, yeah. Um, okay. Doblin Dorf enough. That is a good reference. Doblin Dorf goes all the way back to Wonder Woman. You win a free EFAP phone. I guess so. Binden. Classic Yu-Gi-Oh card of the day is Tongyo. Oh, this one sounds familiar. T-O-N-G-Y-O. Yeah, this one. Yep. This is one. It's another one. This is from Metal Raiders. This is another one of those early Yu-Gi-Oh cards. That's just weird creature on abstract background. This monster captures all the fish with its long tongue and sucks the energy out of them. All right. Also known as eating. Yeah. It sucks the energy out of them. It's doesn't what eating is. Yeah, kind of. I just want to watch. Wait, I just watched the prestige for the first time yesterday. Thank you so much for recommending it, since I probably wouldn't have watched it otherwise. Do you think you'll ever do a video or EFAP on it? Yes. One day. The prestige is one of those moves. It's like up there with the Lord of the Rings trilogy as like what you need to. It's so good. It is extremely good. I actually rewatched it not long ago. Like two weeks ago, I think. I still adore it. Gives me big old feels and thoughts. Long man, your thoughts on nope. Well, it's been a bit of a time now since I've seen it, but I remember being interested by some of the stuff it was doing. I think it's pretty dumb. Seems like stretches and holes. It's the best of his three so far, I think. A lot of people hated the alien design. I kind of thought it was neat what the ship turns into at the end. I don't know. I thought it was different and interesting kind of. I think a lot of characters like fucking figure things out way faster than they should normally be able to. And that the ideas behind some of the stuff in it is just kind of neat. But I don't know. I don't think it was good. I wouldn't recommend it in that sense, but I wouldn't mind going through his three movies with the E-Fat movies, you know. That could be interesting. Wow, that grace Randolph clip was painfully bad. I think they're talking about. Would it be more specific? I think I'm going to guess it's the Andal one, where she said like there's no after credits things. There's no reason to talk about the show. Like, oh, damn. I hate it. I hate it. I hate you. Well, it just sucks that that's the culture we're in, and that's why we're going to get what we get. Thoughts on Mr. Frundles. Mr. Frundles. That was in Rick and Morty. They're like, I'm Mr. Frundles. Oh, you remember? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how Rick and Morty season like six is happening right now. And the whole world doesn't care. No, nobody cares. And they've got like another, what? 40, 50 episodes guaranteed. Keep coming out. Oversaturation slash, well, iteration, ignorance. Another one bites the dust, that sort of thing. Uh, with the exciting news that Star Wars Rogue Squadron has been shelved for the foreseeable future, I decided to look into who was supposed to write the movie. And oh boy, Matthew Robinson's writing credits are worth a look. Oh, this is who was going to be writing Star Wars Rogue Squadron. Let me have a little look. What happened to Rogue Squadron? It just got axed, I guess. I think it's like indefinitely like delayed because there's no director attached. Because Patty Jenkins dropped out, remember? So it's just like sitting there. Nothing's happening. So you got the invention of lying, which I don't know, I can't remember if I saw that. There was a funny joke in that film. Then we've got, I'm looking for things I recognize. Dora and the Lost City of Gold. Oh, nice. Okay. That's the live action Dora the Explorer, I guess. Was anybody of like fame in that? Let me check, Dora and the Lost City of Gold. I think Michael, was Michael Pinia in that? He just kind of a fame. Yeah, Michael Pinia's in it. Jeff Wahlberg. Eva Longoria. Virginia Derbys. Eva Longoria. Nicholas Kuhn. Wait, Benicio Del Toro. Danny Trejo. Really? Okay, wow. Danny Trejo is Boots the Monkey. It's officially stusted, okay? Um, so he wrote that and then you got Love and Monsters. I don't know what that is really. He's going to be writing the screenplay for Live, Die, Repeat and Repeat. Is that a sequel to Edge of Tomorrow? Is this an analysis? Is that a sequel to Tomorrow? That sounds like the sequel to that because that was like the name of the film. It's a subtitle. Plot Unknown. It's a follow-up to the film Edge of Tomorrow. Okay. Right. Well, I mean, his writing credits are worth a look, they said. I don't know. It's like, I'm not sure where I was to gain from all of that. It's a bit of a hodgepodge, but uh... With the exciting news, oh wait, I read that one. Platoon, tell Morley how his country birth hentai. Okay, I'm just going to move on to the next one on that one. Today is Wednesday, September 21st, 2022. Hey, we're only two months out. Bad. Nice. Tryout Cyberpunk Edge Runners. Very emotional. Springy, did you finish it after all? Not much to episode six still. So I haven't watched it. I haven't progressed in a while, but I'll finish it at some stage. Little platoon, this feels right. Thank you. No problem. He was an awesome guest. Springy, stop talking Transformers without me. I would have been able to tell you about an animated movie set for 2024 and the true ending of TF3. Oh, right, okay. I think I either talked about it on here or on my own stream, I think, at some stage. Just talking about Transformers, which I'm not super familiar with as a series, overall. What was the bonus ending or whatever? Or different ending? No idea. It might have been me complaining about how, like, optimists just killed Megatron for some reason. Like, just... Well, yeah. The prize they let that go through, it just doesn't seem very optimist at all in that scene. The migration party was one of the most kind... I guess they mean mind-boggling things I've ever seen. They have a book of those they have left while they cheer, saying they won't be left behind. Hi, by the way. Yeah, it's weird. Hello. Yeah, the way that they treat the people who've fallen behind is legitimately weird. Hello chat people and DFAP. Devil Fruit of the Week? The Mira Mira Fruit. This fruit allows the user to create, control and transform into fire at will. Would you eat this fruit? You can't swim if you do. To turn into fire? I don't know when that would ever be useful. Well, to be fair, it says the user can create, control and transform. Oh! We've got... Really? I mean, yes. You're a firebender, basically. Yeah, do it. Fuck yeah. I'll take that one. Do it. Absolutely. Gotta say, one of the few good things about the abysmal decline of Rick and Morty is that we'll probably get a BangerJ video breaking it down. Um, maybe at some point. Is Jay still watching it? I haven't heard anything. Because we got invited to watch the first episode. Me and Frig were just like, meh. And then the invites didn't keep coming. So I assume either Jay's fallen behind or that it's just not worth talking about. Which, you know, kind of unfortunate because... I don't know if you guys knew this, but we kind of liked Rick and Morty at one point. That's what I hear. Well, I give you a little run-through of some of the highlights. Did. You showed me some high-tier content. And that was legitimately some rather good stuff. I mean, some of it was excellent, I would even say. Then it fell apart. A lot of it was excellent. Look up Donnie Dunnigan's career. Also, hi, Frongolio. Yo. Frongolio. So she played the creepy grandma in the visit from the Shyamalan film. I don't know if you feel it. I know of it. Yeah. Then we go on. Then the Exorcist Chapter 2 TV show. I don't even know what else we got. House of Cards. She was in an episode of that. Doop, doop. She was in a TV show called Unforgettable. I don't remember if I've seen that. Oh, nope. Don't recognize these. Yeah, if there was something I was supposed to spot here, I don't know what it is. Got to say one of the few good things about the abysmal... Oh, wait. I read that one. Look up. Hello, EFAP panel. Hello. I just bought Fringies and Molas Plushies. Looking forward to grabbing rags as plushies as well. Personally, I think animation and live action have their strengths and weaknesses. Well, of course, every form has their strengths and weaknesses. Yeah. Except slam culture. VR gaming. All right. There's nothing wrong with that. It's perfect. Going to jump into a... You know, it's like what is it called in Star Trek? The little room where they do things. Holodeck. That's it. And like the Danger Room in X-Men or whatever. Where you can just make shit up and be like, yeah, walking around with fun. EFAP movies wish list. Transformers 1986, Krampus 2015, and the best Superman movie, The Iron Giant. Fun fact, The Iron Giant is voiced by Family Man himself, Vin Diesel. Yeah. Yeah. Family Man himself. I mean, I don't think we'd end up EFAP moving Transformers 1986. Krampus 2015 is possible. Iron Giant, we're probably going to cover at some point. I could see that happening. Also, there's a Hocus Pocus 2. How? Why? Funny, I guess. That came out, right? I didn't see it. Did anyone see that? What is Hocus Pocus? It's a really fun, classic, Halloweeny movie about three witches doing crazy shenanigans for kids. Well, because I did a sequel to that, and they just released a sequel to Enchanted as well. You know, Amy Adams, the hybrid animation. They've done a sequel to that on Disney Plus. Great. Which comes from like the cartoon world or something. Yeah. But again, they've done a sequel to that, so yeah. Are people actually watching this show? No view of your information is available after the premiere versus hot D that is always releasing numbers. I think, well, we got to compare numbers on retention and stuff eventually, right? I don't think it was good news for Rings of Power. Little platoon, tell more of why Japanese invented hentai. I'm just not that curious about that, you know. New Diabeto arc soon. You've seen his recent vid. Oh, we could. Yeah, there's a good reason to check it out. We got a backlog of basically everything you can imagine at this point. Like memes, super chats, video coverage and media coverage. Just it's all waiting. All of it's waiting. Ring of the day is the iron ring of Prometheus. We have a ring of the day now. Iron ring of Prometheus. Let's see. It's from the Hero Siege wiki. Uh, let me see. This tier, one to two sockets, 100 level requirement. What I got as a result is, as time passed, Zeus's anger subsided and he chose to pardon Prometheus. He released him under the condition that he wear upon his finger an iron ring in which was attached a small portion of the rock he had been chained to. With this action, Zeus had kept his word in effect keeping Prometheus bound to the rock. Oh, that's nice. I didn't know that part of the story. That's kind of neat. I don't know if that's true or just some addition. I didn't know if that's part of the mythology or yeah. But yeah, it works for me. Yeah. See, Zeus isn't all bad. He's just mostly, almost always. Yeah, mostly. Uh, I can't wait for you guys to review 30 hours of content in under eight hours. I'm not sure what they're referring to. You bet. Me neither. Could be Ragnarok. Oh, yeah, that's right. Lord Longbong of Mewpschlington Abbey. Is there any good chance of a Kongfap of Peter Jackson's long Kong? When is the last going on? Should it be a movie fap for the ages? P.S. Hello, Wagsies. Scritches for the good boy. Hello. That's a good idea. That's a good idea. Should have, someone should have brought that up sooner. I was going to say it seems like an obvious one to possibly float as an idea, but now that we've got it there, I imagine that'll, you know, it'll find its way some point. Uh, hello, Massives. I'm working on a series of video critiques regarding the MCU. What do you fellas do to determine plot issues from character issues? Um, if it, if it's a direct, if it's a thing that a character does, then or says, then it will probably be a character issue. But if it's like an effect of the world, or if they cause an effect from some event, doesn't create another event that it should, that would likely be a plot issue. For example, I raise a gun to shoot ragged and I pull the trigger. We now know it doesn't matter what happens next that I had intent to kill. And that's going to affect whatever we know about the character. However, it jams the bullet stops and rags life is saved. That is not an issue with my character. It's an issue with plot. If, uh, if one was to conclude that with the information of like, oh, lucky it jammed, like there's nothing beyond it being lucky. Uh, hopefully that's a way to sort of highlight it. Um, salutations flimbos. A bit late, but medium rare chicken is a real thing in Japan. Look up chicken sashimi. It's mostly safe due to food standards. Oh my gosh. How does that work? I guess if you have very high control over the kind of chicken and it, and how it's cooked, then you can skirt that line safely. You're going to be honest with you? I guess you're not going to eat anything that's considered mostly safe when it's food. I, I'm not going to eat any medium rare chicken myself. If I'm in Japan, I, I, I'll probably be having some, something else than medium rare chicken. I just, if ever something on a menu said, Hey, man, this one's mostly safe. I feel like, I feel like mostly safe means not safe. Yeah. We usually have a bitery for that. Intro shows phenomenon of resonance where sand forms patterns when different frequencies are passed through time. Apparently this references how the world was sung into existence by God in Tolkien lore. Still a lame intro. Yes, it's a very lame intro. Mubama's stylistically designed to be that way. Yeah, but there are some Mubamas that look better than others. Imagine if Boromir turned up at Mount Doom and said, Haha, I didn't die and actually I was Sauron all along. That's how I felt at the end of Squid Game. What? Wait, that's how you felt at the end of Squid Game? Like, I didn't die and I was Sauron all along. I guess that's what they mean by the old man, yeah. I guess, yeah. But it makes way more sense than Boromir turning out to be Sauron. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck that's about. Hi, EFAP and Rags. Hello. Hi. I have watched you since before lore school and I just passed the bar and landed a great job. Wanted to pass on something for all the great content. Thank you. Oh, thanks very much. Thank you. And congratulations. Yeah. Yeah, good job. Get out there and do lore. Woohoo. Yeah. Versus matchup. Ellen Ripley versus Sarah Connor. Sarah Connor. Sorry. Yeah, I think Sarah Connor is more combat focused. He's really been training to be combat focused. With gun knowledge and marksmanship and things like that. Ripley's skills are just, she just, her different skill set. Yeah. And if someone said like, well, I mean, you know, Ripley could kill her. She gets to jump on her. I was like, yeah, course, course, course. But if we're going from just raw skills, Sarah's going to win. Bonus matchup. Legolas versus MCU Hawkeye. Well, Hawkeye gets tech arrows where Legolas doesn't. Oh, tech, yeah. Yeah. I don't know if his elvishness gives him an advantage in other aspects. Cause like dude, Hawkeye is super human, basically. I was actually about to say, judging from all the arrows we see, there is a chance that Hawkeye's accuracy is more impressive than Legolas's. Maybe. Yeah. I'd have to compare all the shots they take, but Hawkeye's ones are fucking insane sometimes. But, you know, Legolas is a pretty insane too. People saying Legolas easy. I don't know, man. I don't think it's easy at all. I think the edge might go to Hawkeye because of the crazy technology. And remember, one shot to Legolas's head is dead. Range, Legolas also insanely agile. Yeah, but you know. It's tough to say. I think it'd be quite a matchup. Remember the USB arrow? Yeah. Hey, man, that's tech for you, okay. It would suck if you hit it perfectly, but it was turned the wrong way. Ugh, terrible. Um, hi rags. And hi. Jesus fucking Christ, this show is slow and boring. Noped after episode three. Another one for the breakdown vids. The show itself. Oh, the breakdown vids are better than the show itself. Yeah, yeah, it's... Oh, yeah, absolutely. That's the era we're in. Shillin' for the meter. Alrighty. Thank you for shillin'. What would you say are overused, misunderstood, or misinterpreted writing advice ideas? I'm getting sick and tired of people using show don't tells and excuse for writers to leave their show empty. Fringy, say it. Active versus passive characters. It's like one of the big ones that people... Oh, I thought you were going to say the other one. Well, there's a lot, but what... The arcs one. Oh, the characters have to change. Yeah, the characters must change. No, they don't. Should they? Probably. But do they have to? Depends on, yeah, depends on the plot if they should change or not. Yep. Exactly. Yeah, like I don't... If you're talking about, uh, you know, what would a good example be? Underwater is a pretty good example. Like there's nothing about the plot of underwater that would probably make characters go on some... Like they would change as a character. It's just how do these characters deal with this situation? Yeah. Like stuff kind of like that. I think... So the answer was tropes that you don't like or a bad writing advice. You need to cover all these pieces. What's your face put out? The advice isn't, like, bad. The problem is that it's not a fundamental. There's components that are missing that need to be... Like if you have a base that's really rock solid in terms of your perspective on writing, I think that you can take on this advice and use it in a way that's going to be appropriate for your story. But if you get too wrapped up in these rules, you're going to like... I feel like you're going to not fully understand like what strong writing is fundamentally. You'll have a lot of the pieces that are like attached to it. Like that will help... That are kind of close to... Oh, there's a good one in chat. If it doesn't advance the plot, cut it out. What does that mean? Advance the plot. Like if you have two characters speaking to each other and it doesn't advance the plot, but it tells us a lot about who they are, like that's meaningful. Well, the scene you saw near the end of your playthrough today, that doesn't advance the plot. No, it doesn't. But it's one of the best ones. Yeah, you cut that out. You lose something very valuable. I think that it can be very easy to confuse expeditious writing with minimalist writing and that you remove elements that could make your story better because you think that they are like unnecessary to getting to the end. I think that expeditious writing means achieving a lot of things at the same time, rather than achieving what you want to tell with your story like as fast as possible. Yeah. I don't hate the advice. It's just that I think that it can be interpreted in a way that's detrimental. Well, like a lot of potentially great stories can be, what's that, sorry? Or applied too broadly. Yeah, you have to have this or you have to have that. Exactly. As long as it makes sense, you can basically do whatever you want, which is I think is a more liberating way of viewing storytelling. The like as long as your idea is coherent and conveyed in a way that's comprehensible, like as long as you do that, you can more or less try and tackle any idea that you find interesting, whether that means that your characters are passive or they don't change, whether because that's the tragedy that they don't change or because they actually realize that they will write all along, which can work. That can work. But I mean, oftentimes it doesn't. Like the reason why you would say that characters ought to change is because that's generally going to be appealing to people. It's seeing a character go on an arc and learn something because you want to go into a story to pull something meaningful to you that you can walk away from feeling like you learned something. And having characters go on arcs is a really good way to make that happen. But understanding that it is not necessary, that your story is not necessarily bad because the characters didn't change. Important to understand that. Yee. Have any of you seen Black Sails? It would be my vote for Hidden Gem. I think it's debuting on stars is half the reason it's so unknown. Check it out. Black Sails? I've heard of it. Yeah, I haven't seen it. Let's see here. Black Sails television series 2014. It looks like... It's an American historical adventure television series set on New Providence Island and written to be a prequel to Robert Louis Stevenson's 1883 novel Treasure Island. Interesting. Karen to Karen Combat. Karen to Karen Combat? Karen always wins. Glad you'll find somebody, I assume. I just got a bit... $5 Superchats Brokey. So I have to use this. Edge Runner's episode 1 was really bad. Insanely overt dialogue. Contrivance driven. Thin characters. Cheap animation. Bad VA. Unclear communication. Very amateur. Oh boy. Well, I can't say no, but I haven't seen it. Yeah, I haven't seen it, so I couldn't tell you. I assume that'll have to be for chat or 3D to say a response to that one. That has been a while since I watched the first episode but I remembered not being super thrilled with the first episode. That was a show that I felt like I needed to give it more time before it was starting to get to a place where it was getting more interesting. But I mean, I haven't finished it yet, so... Though I will say where I got up to in episode 6, it feels like man, that probably should have been the finale and like there's still four more episodes left. Like if you would expanded that out to where that was episode 10, feels like that probably would have been stronger. But I haven't finished it yet, so yeah, can't say as a whole. Thoughts on TPN, Buffy and Angel videos? Hi rags. Hello. Pretty good insights. A lot of really great bonus information and connections that you may not have grabbed, but also lots of weird things said because of biases, sort of standard stuff you get with a lot of hyper-specific takedowns of different, I say takedowns, assessments of media, you know. Have you guys watched the Groot show? Its dialogue is inspired. Is the idea that there's no dialogue in it? Well, the dialogue is just I am Groot, right? Right. Rags, if you're done with organized chaos, you should check out Doom Blazer, the MCU shill. Doom Blazer? The MCU shill? It's a shame that we have so many of them hanging around. If Galadriel wanted an entire show to suck this much, we should have renamed the show Glory Rings of Power. You can even include the Seaman. Thoughts on Soviet Wombles video essays, and any chance he might become a guest at some point? I mean, I'm on board with that, but I don't know if, I don't know what he's up to these days. I haven't seen any Soviet Wombles video essays, so that's interesting. I didn't know he was doing that. Nifias Keep Moving? This is a, this is a Deer Ken Kingdom? You didn't get that? It was a reference to something. Doesn't sound familiar. Yeah. Doesn't ring a bell. Deer Ken? Like another Ken? You think they're a deer or something? I assume it's a reference to something. I don't know what it is though. Sorry, meant to write Dwarven. Oh, this is a Dwarven Kingdom. Ian, Nifias Keep Moving. Well, I mean, they condemned the death, so. They probably feel something like that. Yeah. Wednesday stream, why? Also, high ragu, because we had so much to do. We had so many things to cover. It was crazy. And it was funny, because my computer died, which forced us forward on one of them as well. Such strange events. Hello, lads. Hello. Hi. What's a dead video game franchise that you think deserves a reboot? Personally, Twisted Metal has always been a childhood favorite of mine. Oh, I was going to say Dead Space, but, uh. Turok. Let's see. Yeah, Turok, it would be nice to get a, is, is, I guess they're going to make a whole bunch of games, right? Oh, yeah. Halo. Oh, yeah. F-Zero would be cool, but I don't know that F-Zero needs like a reboot in the sense it needs like some overhaul, just like, it's making F-Zero a game, you know? As I'm just trying to think of like a game that had a one-off and then it didn't really catch on, and I would want more. Dirty bomb. Yeah, I think, unfortunately, it seems that, yeah, it was mentioned in the chat, but, I mean, Titanfall. I don't know if they're going to make another Titanfall game. Well, we're talking about just like sequels I would want. I obviously want another Deus Ex game. That'd be nice. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Titanfall. I'd like, I would really like for there to be a Titanfall 3, but that seems likely. Well, I mean, the legacy of Kane is being said in chat. I think that that might be happening now. I remember seeing an article that said that the studio, that like the company that now owns legacy of Kane has like sort of thought about that as like a real possibility of rebooting legacy of Kane. Never played legacy of Kane. I hear it's really cool. Let me double check. Okay, I know of this game, but I never played it. Okay. Okay. It looks like two days ago, looks like Crystal Dynamics said that Crystal Dynamics says it hears fans loud and clear after 100,000 plus survey responses. The company recently launched a questionnaire asking players about a series comeback. Interesting. The problem is that anyone not on screen ceases to exist within the story. Brings a power, I guess, and yeah, kind of. Especially when it comes to combat. Combat needs, we need a renaissance of just good, competent combat and shows. Yeah, we have some hideous action in our shows, yeah. It's very consistently bad. Pretty much all the Marvel stuff, all the Star Wars stuff, it's just terrible combat. It's just shit. You never, yeah, there needs to be a, you know, a renewal for people to rediscover that shooting good combat scenes is not necessarily easy, and it needs to be good. Gimli tried to kill Frodo to spare his reputation. Oh. Maybe he was just like, you know what, I really do believe that I can get the ring to the old volcano, but nobody here believes in me, so I'm just gonna kill Frodo and take it. Was there anything with Gimli in the ring, really? Uh, he tried to hit it with an axe. So, and then that didn't work. That didn't work out. Like he didn't like the ring being in the hands of an elf. That's true. And that's the same scene, but, you know. Um, imagine if they redirected their tunnel and it zooms out and they ran into a second tree that was previously not on screen. I don't think of what we're talking about. Redirected the tunnel. Oh, you're talking about when they were digging the big wrench? Imagine they redirected it and then they ran into a different second tree that was previously just not there. That would be pretty funny. That was hilarious on the wide shot where it's just like they, they hit the tree, seemingly for no fucking reason at all. It does look hilarious. It looks like something out of like a Top Gear episode. Or Monty Python sort of thing. Like, oh fuck, we hit the tree. The tree. Oh no. How do we not see it? It came out of nowhere, I swear. The Orcs thought his smelliness was cultural appropriation. Damn. We here at EFAP are staunchly opposed to cultural appropriation. Yeah. Only smelliness can belong to Orcs, and that's it. That's their thing. Yes. Only Orcs can be smelly, and she helps feet. Orc, I don't like trees. They're rough, sappy, and they get in the way of my digging. Yeah, true. Gotta love it when fans are called racist, but the character everyone's gone is the white woman. Lol, keep on keeping on, EFAP. That means they're sexist. Hey, I want all the characters gone. I want them all gone. Equal opportunity, Hater. Can you explain the production design option? Trying to think of what that might be. Explain the production design option. I don't know what that refers to. Production design. I'm thinking maybe if option was a different word. Element. Sorry, I'm lost. I'm lost. Yeah, I don't know what that means. Sorry. Waiting to see if Treebeard is swapped for a bush or if White Oaks are banned from Fangorn Forest in Rings of Prime. Treebush. I imagine the trailer for season two is going to be filled with bait from stuff you like in Lord of the Rings and IP. If you're like, look, we got this. I think they're going to go super hardcore for it. Because they've got nothing. They can't be like, your favorite character, Turin and others are back. It's like, nobody cares about them. You have to spend season two making people care about them. Which is what you should have spent season one doing, but I guess if you're not talented, that's difficult, isn't it? You should watch the first season of True Detective. I think I have seen that. It's just been forever. But yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure it's highly regarded. Some top tier television. Friend watched Andor's three episodes. Don't remember the story. Friend two, you watched three episodes and don't remember what it's about. Swear to God this happened. Yeah, a lot of people fell asleep with Andor the first three. We thought it was really fun. Damn shame. Yeah, I liked it. Ah, it was good. What's the draw from it, I thought? There were scenes that I... There are people and scenes that I cared about. God forbid that happened in Star Wars. Like Salt from a Table. It tells you the writer worked as a restaurant waiter before their big break on this show. I don't even believe that. I don't even think that's what's happening there. I think they just, they've had meals and they saw Salt and they were like, you know when you brush Salt off the table when you've built it a bit? That's great. That's a line I should have in my show. Some of these people, I'm not even sure they've had nine to five jobs, you know? I'm not sure. That builds character. They seem to be lacking it when they put it into these characters. A warrior doesn't know anything but war. Reminds me of Zod in Man of Steel. Where did you train? In the Shire? Yeah. Another fantastic line. I grew up surrounded by fire. Ah, Al Balrog would likely say that, yes. Galadriel is a literal fish out of water. Oh, she was a... A literal fish out of water. I mean, yeah, I don't know why you said that. I think elves are mammals. But yeah. And you never really got that impression with her either that she was a stranger in a strange land and she didn't know their ways and she was trying to get used to this new surrounding. She always acted like this insufferable girl boss who always got her way and was just a general bitch. Never got that fish out of water concept. Númenor versus the Argonaut in Fellowship. In Lord of the Rings, we see those old statues from Lowe and hear Aragorn talk about what the men... These mean to him. Númenor came off as a member berries with no emotional anchor. Númenor was weird, dude. The whole thing was weird. Yeah, the Númenor plot line. They're taking our jobs. What the hell was that? That was... These creatures that have literally not been on these shores for as far as we know, hundreds and hundreds of years. One shows up randomly and they're worried about them taking new jobs. Does not want to be here. Clearly taking our jobs. And then half of us get killed in war. It's like you guys will have plenty of jobs. Don't worry. Galadriel learned only one thing growing up. Punch. Oh, this is how you solve your problems, all right? It works for some people, I guess. Looks like me after I take a massive dump. Nice. All right. I look the same after I take a massive dump. I do too. I've been treating this... It's my ability. I can mimic the power of that one fruit that I could change my weight very quickly. I can make myself slightly lighter. I've been treating this as an absurdist comedy, like Monty Python. It's been way more enjoyable since I did that. It somehow makes more sense. Let's try a good strategy. Yeah. Galadriel took at least two centuries to tilt her head or rotate a page to get a new info on the mark of Sauron. This is a cosmic writing-tism. Holy crap. That realization is so fucking dumb. I don't even know what to say. Someone in chat said stab twist gut. And I just can't believe it. Oh, yeah, right. Stab twist gut. So fucking dumb. So much. It's so hard to deal with. Stab twist gut. That's all you need to know to kill or stab twist gut. Have you guys seen the show Dark on Netflix? It's a sci-fi thriller that seems to handle time travel quite well. I'd like to hear your takes on it. I watched the first two seasons, and I've just put my hands up and admitted I got too confused. I wasn't able to follow it enough. They start to get real complicated. They run multiple timelines. They have characters moving through different timelines all the time. And lots of big reveals happen by finding out certain people are certain people, but older or younger or what have you. I'd have to rewatch it and go slower and more deliberate. But from what I was enjoying through the parts that I was enjoying, I was impressed. It does seem like a very, very good show. Take the recommendation seriously, I guess is what I'm saying. Any thoughts on the boys season three? And do you have plans on doing an EFAP for it? Also high wags. Hi, I haven't seen it. I'm not going to see it. And I hope we don't do an EFAP on it because I don't care at all about it. I watched season three. It's better than two, but it's still pretty bad. Yeah, because two is really bad. Really bad. Lot of problems with two. Well, two just killed it. Season one was kind of neat. Totally. Yeah, season one is... Yeah, there was something there. Absolutely. Was Smeagol a half-foot? If so, his behavior makes a lot more sense now, considering the behavior of these half-foot. Uh, he was on... He used to be a hobbit. No, no. He used to be a half-foot. No, something far worse. Far worse. Something monstrous. Think of hobbits being evil. Ancient evil that would cannibalize them. The worst of hobbits. I felt repulsed when they laughed at the guy who died from bees. That has to be the most excruciating, horrific way to go. Yeah. Yeah, that would suck. It's a terrible way to die. This just says she hulks feet, smiley face. Nice. That's come through a few times, right? Yeah, it has, yeah. Based in Greenpilled. RLM is crazy. Nope is better than us. Dude, it's probably Jay who likes us, because that movie's absolutely bad shit, which I will show you too one day, and you will appreciate how fucking bad shit is. Oh, all right. All right. All right. Metal was right. RRR is great. That's what I hear. I hear it's a fun romp, that movie. RRR. It's an awkward name, yes, but yes. What does it stand for? I don't know. Oh, all right then. Why didn't Lenny smell Gandalf arriving? What? Why didn't Lenny? Oh, I guess Lenny Henry. So, Stardoc, why didn't he smell him? I don't know. Maybe it was something he does. What the fuck? I was explicitly told their hearts are bigger than their feet. Oh, yeah, I mean. They didn't even say that. You know, they say that if you tell yourself a lie enough times that you could fool yourself into believing that it's true, maybe that's the story. Of Balamore. If they lie about them being kind, they believe that they are kind, and it's a load off their conscience. If they even have a conscience, which they might not have. Which remains to be seen, to be proven. God, they're going to be coming back in season two. This is definitely a moment of, do they have to? Sorry, sorry. So sorry, champ. And I'm afraid it was mentioned earlier, but Mr. Fringy is dying right now from tiredness. Oh my goodness. Oh my gosh. I hope he gets better soon. I'm not literal. I'm just, I'm tired. It's been going for a long time. So we'll probably wrap it there, but we've managed to get through quite a decent chunk of Super Chat some more. That's good, good. What I'm going to try and do, strange and crazy plan, I got a Super Chat cat to do a drinker tomorrow at nine my time. And once that's wrapped up, I'm going to try and record what we have left for the Lord of the Rings ones. This, so this will be 204, 207, 208, 209 all put together. Ooh, all right. We're not too far away from being able to pull that off. Gotcha. So what I'll do is record, what I'll quote, an offline eFab, right? And attach it to this. So it all comes out as one episode. So we expect this one to come out probably for Wednesday and it'll be much longer, as in probably an additional two or three hours on the end of this one. And it'll start up in seconds from now and it'll be seamless, probably not actually, because it'll come after me saying goodbye. But that's okay. It'll be saying goodbye to the odd line chat. But yeah. And then we're recording the 200 ones offline. That's going to come out in a big thing as well. So we're just getting caught up on all that. But as I said, the plan is for hot D on the coming matter day. Did you say sorry about the spam earlier? That's not your fault. I don't know about it. That's just people. Yeah, it's not your fault. It's just doing great, pal. You're doing great. You're doing very good. So hot D for the next eFab, Ragnarok for the eFab following that. And then following that, we've got some videos we're probably going to try and check out. Hopefully we'll have caught up with the super chats. And hopefully other things will be announced in terms of plans being made, because I've been swallowed these past two weeks-ish with getting all of my new positioning tech, internet and storage files. Everything sorted with this new thing. But hey, this was a good experiment. It worked just fine. Everything's great. No problems with the internet or the functionality. Very glad to hear that. Something off your mind. There's even a feed for the streamlabs that comes right in. One was sent 31 minutes ago. It's the only one we haven't read. And it says, if you could watch a villain from any media, go up against any hero from any media, what would you choose? I always thought Anton from No Country for Old Man would make a fantastic punisher villain. Sherlock Holmes versus The Riddler would also be good. That was a cool idea. That is a cool idea. Those are really neat ideas. Good on you. Well, a villain, let me see. Could I have... Darth Vader versus Kratos? I think Kratos loses that, right? Because the lightsaber is going to fuck him up. Telekinesis. And a lightsaber. Throw away a lightsaber at Kratos. He's going to have to... I don't know if the Blades of Chaos can deal with that. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Heditivus is Batman. That would legit be potentially pretty interesting. Yeah, it could be. Because they're sort of similar. Yeah, I like that. That could work out pretty well. He's trying to investigate these weird killings that have been happening around Gotham City. And he gets better and better at tracking down the layer of the predator. Yeah, I can see that happening. You got Iron Man versus Lex Luthor being that they're like two men of similar backs. You know, they've made a lot of money. They have the companies, but they've gone... They're living different lives or things. Like, that could be interesting. I mean, I think the Legolas Hawkeye one was a pretty... Well, I mean, they're both heroes, but... Yeah. Obi-Wan, you conspire against me. conspire against me. That's Anakin. You go. You go. You conspire against me. All right. Oh, you won. You conspire against me? Summon a Chatsud Luke versus Jake. But yeah, so with that, we're gonna wrap up there and say goodbye, folks. It's been big, old fun times, Obviously, if you're curious as to why there's a little bit slower right now for beef have stuffs because I have been consumed as this metal and as Slash is Fringy with Thor Ragnarok Kratos Ragnarok. Okay. That's what it truly is. God of War. You've been consumed with Well, you've released videos and What's the thing you say not being able to play the game? Oh, and you're building a PC, right? So yeah, you got all things going on too Yeah, I've been because my the fans of my GPU aren't really working correctly So they can't cool it properly. So if it plays games that attempt to tax it much Then it will just stop working because it overheats So I've been taking it easy and I haven't played many games at all But if I do play game, it's just rimworld because it's not like a graphic intensive game So I can play that Uh and catching up on other stuff that I need to do but I'm I'm excited to have a you know a work in pc again Essentially. Mm-hmm. So excited and uh Yeah, so if you want to catch Fringy streams, they're found to findable on dubious sanity from for twitch Yeah, one word I want to find mine go to the youtube homepage scroll down. You'll find my playlist There's 10 parts some of them are like nine hours for ragnarok. I've been having a blast with it and Look forward to talking about it If you want to find metals I think they're on his archive channel So that'd be how you find them, uh, which is metal commander. I think um on youtube Rungle rags. Is there any way we could get a horseman of pc? Wait a minute. I did read this one out I just didn't delete. I think you guys said there's a possibility in future. Yeah It's absolutely a possibility as far as I know everyone is still available to do that I mean Berry's got a channel top hats is still, you know around doing his stuff. Um, and you know Fringy and I are here So maybe I think the only I don't think it would be like a pc thing though because I think we've all just sort of Gravitated away from that for the most part into just general gaming and media discussion I had someone other kinds of stuff But asking me about pc parts and I just had to admit it's like I could have given you good answers like 10 years ago But at this point I'm so out of the loop on pc parts at the Building pcs. I've gone back to being like a noob in that regard and that there's gonna be so much more prepared for it I think I like I mentioned when I was getting my new pc But I was like I know the advice you don't get pre-built and then it was like have you tested that advice out recently Is that like what is that built on it's like well because pre-built They're not very good pcs You don't get to know what components get go in there and oftentimes it's not worth the money And it's like yeah, so you haven't checked out pre-built for a while. Have you and it's like no and um This is Sony for metal as well. He was he was agreeing with me He was like, yep, that's that's the problem with them Let me check the site where it's just like in depth, you know choices down to every last component And all of the makes and models and numbers and stuff. It's just like oh This is better. Yeah the uh, I I catch uh the occasional Pre-built review when I watch gamers nexus a channel. I very very much recommend everybody and some of them are great Some of them are terrible You just make sure you get a good one And there's a lot of a lot of the times there will be reviews on the specific models and If I mean it is absolutely something to explore as an option Um, I don't begrudge you one tiny bit for getting a pre-built If it's good, it's good. It's bad. It's bad like a lot of things Y'all go too fast still back on esap 100 yet still I'm coming for you long man I will find you and then I will be cool So now that's that's it's it's funny given what we were talking about before but apparently we're going too fast we're still We're ahead and we're still going to be going further than ahead We're going to it's impossible for me not to release multiple episodes within one of the weeks that are coming When our goal was to actually skip a week. So Yeah, we're doing great in that regard. The thing is when does media slow down typically? It's like Is it the spring of the year? It's usually spring right gets slow Fuck you it's january Well, like january february because video games don't tend to come out in january Usually not even towards like it usually starts up again in like march films tend to slow down a bit in january february That's just tends to be the time when things sort of that will likely be where we get to Catch up so to speak Hopefully yeah Because I do have a memory of the like i don't know beginning or middle of this year We had a chance we got to the point where we caught up It was the anniversary that killed it again We just caught up everything was up to date and then it just went We're still catching up on those 200 messages by the way There was a time when we were Like it turned out to I think it was reason reasonable for us to be worried about it But there was a time when we were concerned like oh Are we gonna have like enough media and stuff to cover because there was some drought and it was the kind of COVID times and stuff like that and we were just busy busy busy with things Yeah, so I think we're just There's all there just always seems to be something we want to do or talk about So yeah, and we're staring down like you're no drought I see the the month of december. It's like four Maybe five opportunities free five episodes cool. It's like i've already got like six topics spotted in so that I'm not even cover like new things that are coming out But hey We'll see what happens. We want to do our best This is don't be clever be the sea. I think they're saying be always always be right Always be right That would that that's that that's what credo should have told atreus is that we must be right Don't be this. No, wait. Do be the sea. Don't be the sky Do not be the sky be the sea why father because the sea is always right. I was showing Did you get the story? What do you play 2018 where kratos tells the story of the the tortoise and the hair? I think yes, I did. I did get that. It's it's one of my favorite moments just It's so it's so in character. I think is why I love it so much That he he's very spotted with his stories you could say at that point like what is the point of telling a story He was probably told like it is to you know teach people a lesson and you're like right There is a fast person who is reckless and there is a slower more deliberate person who is purposeful and determined That one is better Oh, okay, that was a great story. That's very invested Uh, I grew up surrounded by salt on a table Oh, nice. I remember that line where they're like tossed aside like wiping salt from a table The salty table that is our lives Is that a common thing where you just got salt all over the table and you're like Well, a lot of people would point out It's like that just feels like they were right in it like some cafe or whatever that they were like Oh, I think that's just a matter of like you didn't have a good like you didn't have a really good analogy Yeah, I wanted to have you wanted to have an analogy or an idiom like Like idiom, I think you're right. Yeah, I think I'd have to check. I actually don't know which is which Like so it would be an analogy wouldn't it because it's analogous to Sweeping off salt off a table and idiom would be like I'm gonna come and like I'm gonna pick you up Like, you know something like that or I don't know actually the the tech It's not a metaphor, right? All right, we're doing analogy versus idiom or I guess also a metaphor. All right, uh, so uh idiom versus analogy um Can you just tell me a metaphor is a figure of space that describes an object or action in a way that isn't literally true But helps explain an idea or make a comparison an analogy is a comparison between One thing and another typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification Okay, um, right here. I found this idioms are okay. Have you ever been told your array of sunshine? Or that the sun rises and sets with you? Were you confused as to what they were talking about in the first example? Your array of sunshine the person used a metaphor Well, the second example that the sun rises and sets with you is an analogy So idioms are expressions that have a figurative meaning independent of their parts Metaphor is our figurative language that takes a word and pairs a phrase with it to show likeless or an out like likeness or analogy so There you go Anyway, what were we talking about? I think I think it's an analogy and it's not a very good one It's just like you try to come up with one that you thought was clever That's the whole show in it Well, I think they were trying to come up with something that we didn't use but the characters in that universe might use but it didn't That can be really tough To like sell that properly, you know and a fantasy story Yeah, it's just not it doesn't quite mesh. Um It's just To me it comes across as um You don't want to use one that is common parlance You don't want to use one that actually exists. You want to create your own new cool one, but like that takes work It doesn't feel like that would be one that would actually exist um, it's not talking because It's one of those like how So you have a whole bunch of salt on a table and then it gets swept away That just doesn't what does that mean, right? You know, what does that mean to illustrate? Especially because salt is pretty valuable most likely and and it's almost It's yeah, I it just don't think it fits. It doesn't seem like it'd be something that would Really just work well Um, I'm a bit behind one of the issues with the tempest line is that Gandalf chides Denethor He's appealing to Aragorn's authority not his own Um, I guess they're comparing the scene Where she says the tempest shit to when Gandalf calls out Denethor and why one works and one doesn't it's just been a while so I'm trying to remember I mean Gandalf specifically refers to the return of a king in that line You cannot deny the return of the king I love that fucking scene, but then I love those movies Those movies are really good Oh, yeah, he says authority is not given to you to deny the return of the dude's so fucking good lines They're great Oh, well because rings powers like the current state of lord of the rings, which is unfair, but you know Uh, might be a chat for another channel, but haven't orcs been around long enough that they wouldn't look anything like elves by now Uh, the thing is We need to know more rules about how they're going with that uh but we need more because As much as you you'd have to go from the books because we've got nothing from the from the shows And even the the movies, right? They don't really go into the timeline on it I still think you got to give them a little bit of breathing room for what exactly they want to set in stone is exactly how it works but um Possibly, I don't know. I'd have to look into it more The elves are taking your duff beer What's duff beer? Oh Is that a simpsons reference? Okay. All right I'm just not aware of duff beer. I just I just don't know Duff Oh, it's funny. I don't think I'd like duff, but I still want to drink one Well, I mean it's like a crabby fatty or purple. I know like Duff in terms of their varieties duff light and all that it's all the same it all comes from the same two But then just splits into three at the end Remember the uh, the guy on the assembly line. There we go. It's like checking Yeah On the assembly line. He's checking like to get the bottles of duff beer and it's like fine fine rat fine I'll be fine. It's like hey, I just I think it was barney like hey, I just wanted to say you're doing a good job But it's like, oh, thanks. That means a lot There's loads of horrible things get through keep getting through Uh Eladriel throwing those guards in the cell looked like someone's shooting their escapee house cats back inside So they don't get fleas. Oh shooing them. Yeah. Yeah. It really does look like they They got along. They were like, oh, you want us to go in yet? Yeah, we'll go in here It was really awful and slowing it down made it, um Made it better The elves took our food just like our jerbs That was such a mistake. What were they thinking? Yes, no sense the elves took our jobs like what are we doing? Comparison I've had two times of near completely collapsed lung. Oh dear both times drove myself 30 to 60 minutes to an er damn On your arm hours before admission and treatment. What? Well like waiting in the waiting in the eob to before getting treatment Oh, well, then again, okay So they said near collapsed lung for a second there I thought it meant like you had one lung that was functioning barely because that would sound like a nightmare drive But if it's near collapse, I don't know what that feels like. I don't know what extent that I mean Damn, dude. Yeah, that sounds pretty chatter. It's just saying You're driving yourself there. Yeah, well, it's just like you walk into a hospital and you're like, yeah, my arm is falling off. Do you mind? You might just sell that back up, please. Thank you. They're like, yeah, you see you just wait here. You're like, yeah, no problem No problem. I understand you're busy. I understand. There's a lot of a lot of people you need to treat us holidays, you know Yeah, yeah, yeah Awesome Uh Little platoon could be a regular really great fit I mean, yeah, but if there's a subject that's suitable, we'll happily grab them back Absolutely, you'll be on every episode for every episode of rings of power coverage. You can fucking guarantee that it's just That's uh, that's the positive that comes from these horrible shows You're like, well, it's time to get the avengers back together That's this one is going to be like for a house the dragon though I imagine now with how good house the dragon season one was the e fapp will probably do a uh bi-weekly two episode coverage or something like that. Yes Yeah, now that we're all into it absolutely Especially if it's coming out alongside You know rings of power and you alternate between the two That that's that's kind of an interesting quality dynamic. Well, yeah, I saw some people being like god That was a rough part of e fapp having to go between she hulk and rings of power when I hated the both I was like, okay, but Like there are people out there who hate star wars and marvel and we You know, I was like so imagine that like it's just I I always wonder sometimes We're just like it wasn't the fun part of it that we're just talking about stories in general You can divorce it from rings of power or she held and just think of it as Someone's told a story and we're telling you what we think of it Um if you really want to but because I understand it's one of like, oh god We're gonna have that that would be five weeks of house the dragon. It's just like, yeah Well, no 10 weeks But you know into changing with other things Don't worry. I'm sure we'll record extra episodes and then we'll be 10 episodes if we're covering two episodes, right? Well, we could it would depend on what else is happening at the time, right? Like if if say for example, she hulk season two and rings of power season two are out at the exact same set of months And we decided to cover all three. I would be like holy shit We might have to do three episode chunks. Yeah, that would maybe make the most sense It would be it would be weird though It would be strange. I get rikita law back. That'd be fun. Oh, that would be really fun Yeah, he did he really he told us that he was uh excited for more and he couldn't wait until they released it So there's also would say like, oh, it's great to see theo back on the recent e-fab But I was like, yeah, because theo I don't think watched she hulk I think he avoided rings of power. I don't think he saw house the dragon, but much later It's just like, yeah, we you know, you know how it works And in fact, we don't want to just bring in someone We have had instances in the past in which we bring on a guest who is not that interested in the topic and It just not sucks. That's not that great Yeah, you poke him with a stick say something You alive I don't care if you send me to the back of the caravan. I'm staying in the front, bitch Mola 2022 I will buy this t-shirt. Yeah, that was me about when saw docks sends him Well, saddox sends him to the back He's like, you know, that's your punishment go to the back of the caravan. I was just like, no That's that's probably gonna get me killed. So I'd rather just incur whatever wrath you'll give me by going to the front But they do stay at the back and then they nearly die That part was so weird because they like agreed they shouldn't abandon them But they will force them to the back of the caravan It's like why that just sounds cruel then like because you know, you won't force them to die But we'll put them in a position where we're more than likely gonna very likely going to die Because if you're at the front and you break down or you're slow Everyone has to slowly move around you and so it gives you more time before you fall behind fully, you know It's just you should have done it Time is like a ship. It moves because it looks up Oh, that's a good one Very true. That's very true Who don't want you with that I don't wait to get my fringy plush so I can show it the wonders of having a sink in the same room as the toilet Ha ha poop and fringy never forget Poop hand fringy But he wears gloves to make sure he avoids that sort of fate I think that's that's That might be better Yeah, well because he'll use the glove perhaps as a you know, you'll basically I'm saying you'll change out the gloves every time Every time there's a lot of it He says gloves in the loo Yep, yeah And I'm not hearing any disagreements. So I'm guessing that's just cannon now He's literally he's literally the friend that shows up on facebook asking to meet up after 20 years just to try and sell you into a pyramid scheme Unfortunately, I don't know if we're talking about who someone in rings of power. I'm assuming Oh, who would that be? I don't know. He's the friend. Oh elrond to durin probably. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Of course. Yeah, of course it would be him absolutely Secrets I have one of those durin. Yeah, he's a moron who like can't Save it. He's way too trusting question mark I think that's a arguable flaw for him, but it's it's just it feels inconsistent what you watch the show Annoying I've never I've never seen Buffy, but a co-worker has season one on vhs on a shelf in his office He hasn't been in for a few months. Should the tapes go missing? Oh, they're suggesting they steal them. No, don't feel someone else Buffy that Don't steal someone else's things. Yeah, you can see my implication You can steal someone else's stuff, but not Buffy. Not Buffy. Some things are beyond thievery Um, and it's not you're gonna be disappointed if you already steal season one because you'd be like, what the fuck was that? I'll be like, yeah, I know Gotta get further than season. Sorry Um, don't steal things also don't steal things. Yeah, don't steal things and don't hurt people unless you absolutely have to Which is probably less than you would imagine Be better smaller and boys thoughts on apple tv severance I think I watched what episode I was a fat of it Which people are not gonna be a problem right because people really like that shirt Yeah, when this episode goes out, there'll be people like what we're like. Oh, no Listen, I have I have so many heart takes you guys don't even know about all right And It's funny, but I was thinking about this and um, you know, like the whole your critiques are poor thing Like I don't know if everyone remembers, but that comes from me not liking the last of us too And I got shot on quite a bit for that But I think its legacy at this point is that it was it was just awful Um, and like yeah, you don't really hear it referenced much anymore. Yeah, you still hear people talking about the first last of us more I feel Makes sense. Yeah But what I was gonna say was the it feels like the reverse this time with God of War Ragnarok. It's like I'm getting chastised for thinking it's good It's like well, I'm curious how that'll all shake out by the time we reach, you know a year from now I wonder what the legacy of God of War Ragnarok is gonna be somehow I doubt it'll be last of us two levels Even though I've seen many people say it is the last of us of the God of War franchise the last of us two of the gold specific reference to Greatest does not kill anybody because he's been emasculated Bring you're not ready You're not you're not you're so not fucking ready. There's this there's this quote that we're gonna see and it's gonna be so fun I imagine it'll yeah, it'll have happened by now because this episode won't be out before those two go out so this is moment Where he says that atreus is emasculated because syph is taller than him Bring it you don't you don't you can't understand this video is we this one's bad. All right This one's really this one makes me angry for a game that I will never play I feel I feel like I have to come to you know go to bat For the honor of a game that I just that I'm never gonna play and happen. I just it makes me angry Like I don't think I've ever heard The adult woman is taller than the boy. What is this? Oh, there's so many great arguments that have yet to come. Well have come by the time this goes out So I hope you enjoyed that eFab everybody Um, this says he put it in nature's wallet Maybe something about the uh, give me the meat and give it to me raw thing Oh, they knew why did they write that line? Why did they write all the lines? Why did they make it? Of course, why did they make a tv show but uh The clever slash wise line was definitely written by a software engineer clever code breaks when something unexpected happens Wise code is durable and handles exceptions If it were like not a shit show I would be happy to hear a character Trying to devise a difference between being clever and being wise But when you hear a show like rings of power trying to do it you're like, oh god here we go But um, you also don't really want to be in a position where you're trying to denigrate being clever Um, I understand what they're going for but at the same time just like, I don't know man clever It's usually usually a positive In fact clever is so much so usually regarded as a positive that we have specific like negative versions of it Um, I hear that shad is looking for writers thought I would plant the seed Thanks for doing what you do guys eFab has helped me sharpen my skills more than you know keep up Keep it up. You right wing trolls That's us We've been he said he said right wind trolls, but I think I think he meant right wind Yes Um, yeah, I think the both he and ripper are going to be trying to expand Their worlds which fucking more power to him. Good luck So quote leslie neilsen for all counting on you a joke when I say that but at the same time It'd be really cool if they actually managed to sort of break out Actually with hard work storytelling What a wonderful thing it is anyone can do But not everyone can do Rags is snow fringies goo and now platoons dust Oh, because of the big old dust conversation a good old that was like two hours Remember remember rags ah dust In no, which one was that it was we were talking about whether or not elrond was He when he saw dust moving whether it was oh that yeah vibrations or whether it was like telekinesis or something I can't remember It was absolutely vibrations. Yeah in the lotherings universe the world was created by song hence song in many instances Produces magical effects besides fin rod versus saran is a song battle All right sound also produces vibrations if it's very loud so Yeah, that would still Things as I as I say I've been I'm holding to it things are not magical unless otherwise elaborated upon to be so Yeah, and and there's a difference between I was trying to remember like The it was really hard to actually get to the specifics of exactly where the contention was it was like the the difference is actually important Even though it sounds ridiculous Because I was saying that if the magical effect or the the magic this if the supernatural element was just making the Voice louder that's fine because that would just produce the vibrations which makes the dust shake anyway But anything past that you're going to have to Work a bit harder on And I'm certainly not ready to assume anything that's more complex than that Uh fin rod versus saran magical battle with song. I would be curious to see that adapted I'm not sure how they would pull it off. I could it would have to be a bit more abstract I'd imagine so that doesn't come across as like a musical Let me ask you this and that and that mean the spirit of that sort of Concept, right? Have you guys seen a nicholas cage in color out of space a color out of space? I watched it with you. I could say yes. Oh, yeah, you're right and jay was there. That's right. Yeah, yes All right. I just forgot who I'd watch that with sometimes. Um, but that element of Using how they visually represent a color out of space Is we disagreed on this you like it. I don't Um, yeah, I was all right with it and I can understand your perspective. I think what they did was okay though. Um It was it's it kind of was to understand books. It's just purple. I know what you mean. Yeah Um, but in terms of like sound. Yeah, that could be Well, it's yeah, like a song battle. You don't want to end up like multiverse of madness Want to as what's the you want to find a way of making that work? And I just I'd be curious to see how they would do it Yeah, that's uh, that's when you want to sit down and think about I was away for three hours. We're still here. Oh, yes Oh, yeah Uh, never make fun of rlm discussing vader's height ever again. That has nothing on this I uh, I think it's fine to discuss What was what was funny about them discussing vader's height is that they eventually realized they were uh, they were wrong right that the They thought he looked shorter than he was because they thought it was Hayden christianson's height Which isn't full enough to be Beta, but uh, I think they put out a correction saying like oh shit. It wasn't actually him in a lot of the suit scenes um But yeah, I I think it's weird to say like You know damn you can't make fun of rlm for being pedantic after this e-fab It's like thought e-fab was known more so than rlm for being pedantic and that's like pedantry is our pedantry is our We own that one. I don't believe anybody is out outclassed us on that It's difficult to outclass on that all right. We're experts. We are we're very very expert Um, token magic is a mind you speak to for favor Saramans avalanche chant is literally mountain bring stones upon my enemies gandalf's fire is a homey who adapts to the situation Not one size tool Gonna be honest with you. This doesn't help Yeah, um I don't I don't feel like I really understand anything better with that. It just would require further elaboration I'm sure it asked me to have some kind of structure, but if someone asked me to describe the mechanics of uh saraman Having an avalanche format a hard dress on on the fellowship. I'd be like I imagine He's casting a spell that can fuck with the weather And I think a lightning strike hits the top of the mountain that knocks loads of shit off it Yeah, the avalanche if someone said no, he's actually asking the mountain to drop its own boulders on the fellowship. I'd be like, oh That doesn't uh sell quite as well for me, but at the same time if you have the lightning strike as part of it Yeah, it feels like obviously i'm going for the movie right the book might describe it very differently, but um If it was a scene where it was just the mountain and then rocks just start falling I would probably then assume again He's he's cracking the mountain at certain points that are weak to make things fall as opposed to asking the mountain to break and drop Its rocks, you know what I mean? um, but you know uh, i'm not against the idea that Uh, the mountain can be spoken to as an entity. It's just that I think that's harder to swallow, uh Compared to just yeah, that's the kind of thing you want to kind of elaborate on Very ambiguously that you can speak to the rivers and speak to the mountains um, yeah, I'm totally fine with that and uh, like an ethereal spell casting sort of yeah That's the earth is a living thing. Yeah, or that there's some sort of some sort of underlying nature that these things have yeah On my way to a job interview and it's quite motivating to know that even doofus writers like this get hired than barbarian half-foot man iraq's Hello, and yeah, they do come across as like barbaric And it's not just because they're dirty and smelly and things like that. It's just the way that they treat one another It's I mean you would legitimately expect barbarians to treat their own, you know tribe better than that You know harfits give barbarians a bad name. I might even say might be a Yeah, barbarians would be looking at this and going like we'd never do that like I love my family and my friends I'd never do this to that. I mean, fuck. They other tribe next door. They can go die in a pit for all I care But I love my people um Death author made it past tense, but having made it the author is past tense. This is about um obviously the big uh breach in understanding between you and me and little platoon was that He doesn't believe you can separate the author from the work if they've made it like it's an impossibility death The author is impossible in concept which Was just we we eventually got to the point of just understanding that he's just got a very different understanding of the definition He has a very he has a very unique understanding of that, uh Yeah, because he got the next super chat says death of the author is a concept that holds that an author's intentions and Biographical facts should hold no special weight in determining an interpretation of the writing Yep. That's that's fine for me in terms of that's us. Yeah And uh, it came up on the The hot d super chats. I said like uh, the big reason we need it is a really important tool Is that a lot of authors can destroy their own work and we shouldn't give them that power? Um, obviously you could argue like well wait is is like a the bad sequels destroying the ot and it's like no I meant destroying it in the sense of They talk about the ot and tell you what happened in it that didn't actually happen Like an attempt to recontextualize things that don't have any evidence uh or an attempt to use an out of Work X or an out of creation Explanation for why things happen when it's an important plot point. Well, I guess if George Lucas said, you know the whole time Han Solo during the ot was actually he was in charge of like a child's trafficking thing That he's making loads of money from to pay off some of his bills. He'd be like No, he wasn't And then George's like no, he was like no, no he wasn't I don't believe you Uh pick a new league champ for arcane season two high rags Hello Um, I guess Fringy can answer this as well as me uh Like I presume that it's kind of baked into the question that are like logical inclusions or is it expected or what What you would want presumably I think they just go with what do you want? Uh, who do I want to see that I haven't seen? um I mean Warwick Well, we'll be getting him. Yeah To think exactly I'll be getting warwick. Um I guess I'm trying to think about like, uh I am not like that familiar with the law in the league of like league of legends world So I'm trying to remember like which characters would be More more appropriate to slot in now compared to like we went to the super fantasy kind of our characters um Well, if I can I'll do I like Graves a lot Like him Well, so if I can pack it in with like a reasoning as well I I want to see victor getting real close to the victor. I'm familiar with and fucking adore from the game Um, simultaneously I want him as is set in the law for league of legends to build blitzcrank and the blitzcrank to start trying to be used as a Sort of a way to clean up the city or the streets or be a bodyguard But simultaneously have a bit of a heart of gold for a robot Kind of like an iron giant situation Yes, and if we can have that interaction with victor as he's losing his humanity, that sounds like absolute gold for writing Yes, it does That's what I'm looking for but of course I'm open to all Potentials I believe in them. I saw the behind the scenes that team is passionate as olfhuck so Uh, and they they worked really hard. Didn't they as part of the behind the scenes we were watching Didn't they like have a whole set story and they scrapped it. Um, I did it again. I think yeah That takes a lot of fucking balls Uh, yeah, I mean that whole that whole uh buying the same thing really exemplifies the amount of effort that went into it I want it known Uh, you could argue the same thing happened to multiple demanders, but that wasn't Uh, waldron scrapping it that was they told him to scrap it and then make a new one I'm talking about writer that writes this story and says this isn't working and makes anyone I'm not happy with this and let's try again. And then of course you can you you Attached to all that the fact that they were developing a new style that we're going to be using for the whole show You know pioneering dude, that's technique There's another thing to be excited about season two is just to go back to that fucking gorgeous world The way that uh, yeah, because it's an incredible looking show I wonder if it'd be cool if like If you imagine characters like a traveler, you know a character that is distinctly not from uh From uh pills over Or zorn, you know just like coming in to see what's happening and get involved in the affair I imagine season two is going to be doing a bit of a phase two for marvel where we'll get our stories continuing But they're going to start setting up expanding like crazy because they're Well, because that's that's really exciting is like Where else are we going to get to see this story take us? What are the parts of the world and all of these characters that are currently essentially locked off? um Because they're much more baked into the fantasy aspects of that world and bringing them in Like if rise showed up that'd be cool Well, he showed up didn't he briefly in the flashback with uh Uh, he's he's gonna be playing a role of some kind I ren go would be cool as fucked To show off. Oh, he's the he's the wolf guy Um, I don't know about him More of a lion. Yeah. Um, he's uh, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah He's like the the closest to predator and then you'd have um casics as alien Kind of wanted to bring them both in you the reference. I wonder if they're gonna bring in any of the uh, like, uh The I don't know where they're from, you know, where ash and all like the the snowy Like the where are they from you're more of a league expert than I am. Oh, uh, yeah The friend of my or whatever his name is friend of Mia and yeah, uh Uh, I used to know the name of the is they are from a frosty place All the frosty characters volabare is probably the one I want to see out of all the frosty characters. Uh, yeah Yep, um, yeah, I want to see dad if he shut up that'd be yeah There's a lot of Joe art, but it would be interesting to figure out what context they would be brought in Like yeah, zed was coming in as like a mercenary, you know Last thing very close eye is gonna be on uh, it's that's it That's the era we're in where ragnarok comes out and we spend the first few weeks just talking about how I'm worried It's gonna be bad that it was good that arcade is like we're just gonna spend the week coming toward it And the trailer comes out. I was like, oh, I hope it's good. How's the dragon? We're like, oh god season two You know, I'm good I'm I'm I'm always nervous as fuck about this sort of thing. You know, I'm just trying to be that way nervous It was a time where it would just be like, yeah, this thing is coming out. It's gonna be good Yeah, and now I'm just always, you know, even with arcane as I'm just I'm so worried because I know How much we have to lose, you know, how good it is and I and I want it to stay that way So I'm just I'm nervous I know they have the capacity to do it. They've done it once, but you're always like There is that level of nervousness, but I mean, I am excited to see like I'm very excited. Yeah, I uh I Get the impression that they they have the story They know what the story is gonna be and that they're working towards it And not that they're making that up as they go along, you know The author is an unreliable source. The work itself is reliable and can be interpreted objectively Unreliable source. I guess potentially. Yeah I think it may not be suggesting that the fact that it can be an unreliable source means it's an unreliable source as in like I suppose so. Yeah, if I mean because you can't Because if you have like a narrator that exists out of universe or a title crawl or something like that Those are not generally regarded as Um unreliable right Not that they necessarily Can't be I suppose if the intention is to use for instance a title crawl to Nobody's accused the title of lying have they but it would be funny because what if it did you probably could use that to your advantage In some way it's absolutely you could say the evil empire when it's not actually an evil empire It's just that our point of view characters and our protagonists They've been deceived or misled into thinking that the empire is evil and then they realize actually the empire is pretty good But the title crawl said it so I think the idea is you don't want to it's probably a good idea to have some element of absolute truth If you want to try and establish Narrative information that you want a viewer to operate on Uh, that's why a lot of the times as I this happened in um This happened in oblivion that movie I saw um last week, which isn't very good Uh, the it starts off with tom cruise's character explaining the state of things It's not a you know a title crawl given by you know floating text or a random voice I mean gladriel is the narrator at the beginning of lord of the ring. So, you know Raniera is the narrator at the beginning of house the dragon I get it. This guy just doesn't know who michael waldron is or about the damage. He's raw. What was that noise? Oh, it's a heck of a cough It was That was such a strange noise. Oh, I'm alive. That's we'll see that's good. I'm I'm good. I'm I'm glad I'm glad for that Uh, that was just a funny noise uh, yeah, so um So saying this guy doesn't know whom um, he he does he just has a very different view of How it works like we gave the the usual examples which are james gun and then of course like Unshot first like all the standard sort of stuff the thing that Really annoys a lot of people about the concept of death of the author is they take it almost as a way of Some people who want to be like fuck tolkin. He doesn't have any input into what lord the rings is I get to say what it you know like um a more What seems like a perverted view of what death of the author is about But in reality, it's like, well, no Lord the rings really does speak for itself. Thanks to tolkin. His writing is so fucking good That you don't even require him to explain a lot of what's so strong about it Um, and more than likely a lot of his explanations will be what you drew out of the content anyway so Don't worry about it. What i'm trying to say is death of the author is not your enemy It's uh, it's a really useful tool and it's trying to help you. Trust me. Okay. You can invite him in I will have coffee with him Take that author and kill him kill that author. Yeah, that's another reason why I think people get upset by it. It's like It's like what we I think it's an insult maybe. Yeah, like like kill the author. No, the author's important. Like no, no, that's not It's like more of a it's a conceptual sort of thing She likes Yeah, because the way I understood it was like the reason they go with that sort of idea is that when you have an Author die, they can no longer talk about the interpretations of the work That's the like it's a broad implicationy type name that gives you a an idea But it's clearly been a toxic one because it gives people the wrong idea a lot of the time Yeah, I think maybe it should be called something else up. However, one knows it I'd like to highlight that efap has 2.4k in chat dealing with some college Mastertisms and the general sentiment is you better come back. We're interested in these topics Well, if they talk about uh, little platoon he came back again and again and again all of rings of power He did we wouldn't let him go Or a disbrew unshad that was a fun set of episodes She-Hulk is a bad show, but them feats boy Wow, yeah, them them feet. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Definitely went to a class for six hours and you're still going Yeah, baby how we do Love little platoon glad you dumbo's had him on he should play so much. It's like you should play ddlc I won't disclose my iq number requirement to play it All right Oh boys, there's nothing like a peace fire to put the taste of air in your breakfast There's nothing like a peace fire to put the air of The taste of air in your breakfast I mean that sounds like some kind of quote from rings of power, but I don't remember that. Yeah, that does sound like a rings of power quote Uh You've got me Bar near me has what's called the step burger Chef explained the burger was named after she-hulk originally the burger in law and then it immediately devolved into Eden jokes and they ran with it Okay Sure, I get it Hey, mr. Malls, I know you're busy doing your things and stuff But could you please update the playlists on moola? I think I did actually recently I got them all up to date up to like I think 208 or something I but obviously Not long before I'll need to update them again I need to find a way to automate it. There is a way to do it. I just need to get on it Yeah, but you know, there are more they used to be like really far out of date. They're uh, they're much more up to date now Regarding dota Tolkien rewrote parts of the hobbit to fit the lord of the rings books. Oh, they mean death of the author, right? Sorry, I was thinking of dota the game. I was thinking of part of the video game Talking rewrote parts of the hobbit to fit the lord of the rings books Which version of the hobbit is canon in this scenario given our view that Han shot first because of the original cut That's a really great question. Uh, this is a question. I had to answer when I was dealing with the Dark souls 2 funnily enough kind of It sounds like it wouldn't apply, but it totally does what what game should I review dark souls 2 or dark souls 2 scholar of the first sin Like well But uh, what is there significant differences like yes So if I claim there are bugs or bad AI or certain control sets and there in that exists in one but not the other What am I supposed to do and I decided that I would go with whatever the author said is the definitive Complete version sort of thing and I would judge that one not to say you can't review ds2 But the I will be reviewing scholar of the first sin Now why well because I want to be good faith and go with the author's sort of final version But that's not I think the be all and end all argument that you can make for example If you were to review the ot in their final version from george lucas you're dealing with so much extra bullshit that no one likes Like should you go with that one? Because in that one Han shoots first you get all that cgi weird shit on the screen In several moments of it. So all would you go with the despecialized versions which aren't even necessarily the original versions um You could probably tackle them at once and then measure and when you get to the difference portion say well in this version This and in this version this So that's that's an option as well, but of course this depends on how much they branch off From one another. Yeah, and we encounter serious problems though when you want to judge the sequels And they are operating on the information of the change like a particular version of the previous And there's only one version of the sequel or something like that You know, so they almost canonize one of the versions in a sense Is it can get difficult? But yeah as far as i'm concerned as long as you are telling people which version you are talking about then You can't be assailed for being inaccurate or anything Um, however, if you're talking about which we should take as canon as the rule we've always said it's really up to the Person who holds the rights. I suppose at the time though. Yep It's funny. I say that because I think What is george's up to date because i've seen george wear the shirt that says hard to shop first But I don't even know what what does george want to be. I mean, it's too late because I mean george, I mean it's interesting to know that I mean as if you needed any more You know reason to think death of the author is great the fact that you can have someone Changing your mind back and forth which creates some level of legitimate instability in what the story is supposed to actually be I mean, there you go Well, and that there's two versions of the film and so which one are you supposed to take as canon? It's like well We're in a situation where whichever one is canon doesn't necessarily affect the events of the future of movies. You can't even necessarily You know, it's it's I guess down to you, but I'm assuming all three of us agree hansh did shoot first. He was the only one who shot Shot first and last. Yes It was awesome And I am afraid like I hate to do it, but it's just like I'm afraid george I think you misunderstood what you'd created in that moment, which was a character who was So adept and on the ball about the situation He knew he was about to die if he didn't shoot him first Which you know grito makes that clear. He's like I'm gonna enjoy killing you or something like that It was a badass moment and it made him seem incredibly competent. We like that sort of And then Just like missed It's all for some reason. I put the clip at the beginning. He moved his neck. It's weird Have you seen that clip in a while? Fringy? If not, you should legitimately see it. It's bizarre It's I'm pretty sure this footage of him editing it and making those choices and How difficult it is to fix the seed Yeah, the beginning I think it's of tfa part two. There's a clip of george saying You know, I think he's asked like what do you think of like the fan response to the sequels or whatever And he was like you got to be careful with whatever you do because I changed a couple of frames and the whole went wild In reference to the hard shot version is like, well, yeah, you completely changed the scene It does look really weird Then he wants to convince you that that hyrus of ford like dodged the shot with his neck Yeah, it like breaks his neck It just doesn't that's another reason why it's so hard to take his cannon because it's like what the fuck was that? What what just happened? Is he okay? Does it make more sense to just have grito miss in general, right? Well, or he starts to or he lifts his gun up, but he doesn't have a chance to fire or something like that Well, he's already pointing at him. It doesn't matter. Like, you know, he's fine What I'm suggesting is just make him miss don't make it so the hard Expertly dodges like that just looks cringe. Don't do it. He breaks his own neck to avoid getting shot Yeah, it's a it's a good strat A lot of that was a very violent day in the cantina. Oh, yeah Yeah, was that killed something got their arm lopped off There was blood and everything even though it was polarized it Yeah, I haven't figured it out yet though I'm I'm curious about that because I've always said that myself But if you do like a move like that with something that's very hot, but pretty quick I wonder what kind of results you can get Oh, do you mean a like reality or because in style like how much Orizes the wound. Oh, of course it does. But that's that's I assume because uh a new hope When they when you when you see that blood you're like, oh, yeah, because uh It's always felt like they avoid blood to avoid the harsher ratings Uh, well considering people getting their heads locked off and their arms chopped off and everything. Yeah Isn't that kind of silly though? You can see somebody get their arms chopped off. But as long as it's not Some people they'll point out like you can see Dooku's head rolling across the floor if you zoom in to like the scene where they go to a wide shot You can see um in the silhouette Gango fat's head falling out of the helmet as it goes down. It's like You know, it's there. It's just hard to spot sometimes. But uh, yeah, they try to hide a lot I'll give you an example that we're all familiar with uh for those who didn't know In the fellowship of the ring when aragorn is fighting alerts There's a reason that when he gets his arm locked off in his head taken off There's not blood spurting and it's to keep that pg 13 rating that's specifically why they had it as quote A quote clean as they did Even though that fight is dirty as hell and I love it. Yeah That's that's what we call that's a fight right there Because uh, yeah, there's I'm pretty sure it might be in the extended But I know it exists in uh, moria. I think either aragorn or barmia chops Uh goblin's head off and like a little fountain of blood comes out really quick Yeah, if it's quick if it's out of the way if it's in the darkness and it's not It's like black blood. I think Yeah, if it's not this is why by the fun fact in the I think it was Star Trek Two or star trek one and one of the star trek it's either star trek the motion picture one of the star trek movies the original star trek movies There's a scene where you have It's zero gravity scene where a bunch of clions have been killed And there's blood floating around in the zero, you know in the lack of gravity And they specifically give them a different color blood so that it's not as rough, you know looking It's why you can that's it's why when it comes to Um, you know like like bugs and a lot of beasts and monsters and stuff You can just chop them up as much as you want a robots. I mean that was probably a big thing Well avengers one or two avengers three the main enemies are armies of robots aliens with purple or whatever blood going on That's just easier to do it. Oh, yeah They love it when you have robots to kill because you can be as violent as you want Which is gonna cost them one day when the robots come back and they rise up and they're like, what was this? What was all this media where you're killing us? What's this about and then humans will be like, uh Listen, okay, it's fiction. All right, we killed each other too. Fine If an author dies, but no one is around to see it does the dust settle That's some great philophilm esophageal Bumbo's right there something to think about Uh more I don't mean to sound creepy, but your voice is great Uh It's not that creepy. Oh, I creepy. No, it's not particularly creepy. Yeah, um, but you do have competition with platoon Why? well, I mean Sitter needs a long boy as well. It's good that he has a The voice that's nice to listen to all right. That's an important one I think it was very important first pieces of advice for being a youtuber It's like go get that audio in a good place. All right that trumps everything Uh, yeah, get a decent microphone and dear god, you can work on your voice For example, you're not you're not just slave to the voice. You think you have you can change it I'm not picking on anyone at all. All right. This doesn't apply to literally anybody But let's say you had the best editing ever It's on par with literally like the most profession like it's like it was made by someone with hundreds of millions of dollars And then your voice is like, hello everyone today. We're going to be tired. It's like, oh Jesus Christ Oh, no Meanwhile, if you also were the really good voice and they only have the poster on screen, you're gonna be better off Probably yeah, probably Everybody will listen to your video. Not everybody will watch your video Yep And there's a there's a there's a there's a more personal Aspect of listening to someone their sound is going into your ears. It's inside of you in a way Whereas with eyes you perceive it from a distance, you know, it's it's not as personal in that kind of nature Uh, the same thing applies to like smelling and touching There's this element that it becomes you know a part of you or inside of you or that you have to You know be there with it So if you have a really really nasty voice Then it might be just more they might turn people off a lot more of a personal way Also hi rags fringy your voices are good too. Oh, thanks. Oh, thank you After hearing how much you guys hate interstellar, what do you guys take on tenet? I think it's much better than interstellar. Also neat time travel I don't know anything about tenet. I have not seen it And also when it comes to time travel you just get me nervous Yeah, like it's a nolan movie So the characters are going to be thin as hell the plot is going to be really fucking strange If not completely broken and we're throwing in time travel And I heard that this one has like the worst audio issues out of all of his movies, which is so weird that he has that problem Like I don't know how it is that fucking christopher nolan of all directors has like a notorious issue with mixing audio It's like how is this happening There was a Miguel Sopotnik from the game of thrones house of dragon stuff He's notorious at this point for not being able to film dark scenes like what the hell How it like you're one of the most revered directors from all of the episodes of game of thrones But you can't figure out dark and then you say that to everybody's like it's your tv. That's fucked not me We have that issue with the audio mixing in um Well, what it happens in horror movie I think it was I forget which ones but that happens in horror movies a lot Where you have to turn up people's dialogue So that you could hear them So now everything else is going to be loud so when they have those those those effects and stuff, you know happened It's like, ah, it's so loud stop out. It's uncomfortable. We had that with the resident evil movies. I think didn't we? Yeah, that's it. That's it. We all have to get up and out based on If people were talking or if they were explosions because mixing was horrible Or that the mixing was set for a cinema environment or something. I don't know but Wasn't working for all of us Um Ifap cyberpunk edge runners please on the same level as arcane, I would argue perhaps not your cup of tea given its anime But it's worth it Um, well like I said, I'm uh, wow, I'm pretty sure I'm set up of six episodes and it ain't as good as arcane All right, calm down. Um, I do like it though Uh, I think I've missed I've missed the window for that now Arcane was almost missed like that's how it went but enough people recommended it and I think Three was it just like one night. I was just like, should we check it out? You're like, yeah, okay It turned out to be uh, one of the best things ever. I fucking love that show great Um The half-oots would make for a great horror movie. Oh, well, sorry in case I didn't that didn't feel like it was answered I'll say is just that uh, there could be coverage for cyberpunk edge runners one day But like I've not seen it and good god. I can't add anything else to my schedule right now And so it'd be like maybe when season two rolls around This is my attitude for invincible as well By the way, if season two comes out and everyone's like, whoa, it's even better than one I might be like, all right, maybe maybe then I'll I'll check it out if I've got You know two seasons same for cyberpunk or whatever, but you know, I can't cover everything not everybody can I saw there was uh It was quite a sad post and I don't mean that in terms of like, uh, I just meant I felt bad for the person They posted on a subreddit about how they're really upset that and or isn't getting any coverage And they literally like labeled all of the people within our spheres and their coverage of it and they listed like their actual Coverage down to episodes and thoughts and they were like everyone's given up the the closest they got was shad I think he got to episode five and then he stopped and it's like I just like I just want to see someone talk about it. I was like that sucks Honestly that ad doors at that position and you know, you can be like, well, what are you guys doing? It's like, well, that's the thing we are stacked with things to talk about I really want to talk about how's the dragon we managed to pull that off And it's like I got to talk about ragnarok. That's got to happen Then Callister protocol is right around the corner. So is avatar two But then we've also got this there's literally this episode and another efab episode It's going to be offline that we're doing like this is insane So adding like, you know, why haven't done that just after saying like why I'm just cyberpunk edge runners or whatever right so So much stuff not enough time Yeah, I just feel really bad because andor seems it what usually happens is that everybody in our spheres We all have things like a venn diagram, right all of media and then we have big circles for what all of us cover And there's some overlap and some not And the andor's managed to evade like all of the circles. He's just sitting on his own It's just like nobody's covering me. It's like, oh, it's real awkward when it seems to be the best Well, I mean based on those first three episodes it was leagues better than the rest of the star wars shows and films under disney And that seems to be the general sentiment. It's like, yeah And yet it didn't really hasn't really been super prominent in our media discussion Yeah, that's just it just makes me feel sad There was a there was a quote I was reading from the tony gilroy about like he was like responding to the idea that the show is boring um And he was explaining that um, there's just so many things they had to get in place to make Well, they latter parts of the show, you know hit the way that they do and he even said that um you're encouraged these days to make Content in the same way that you go to like a kind of what was his analogy rising something like you go to um Um, I forget exactly what it was. It was something along the lines of it was like disposable Yeah, but the point he was making I can't remember exactly what he said But the point he was making was that you can you can have Like an experience that's really bombastic but doesn't stick with you or you can have one That's a really slow burn builds up and then sticks with you forever and that's the one he's trying to make Yeah, which is Unfortunately, it seems like it doesn't get rewarded in a climate where it's everybody wants to talk about the crazy epic big explosive thing that happened in that episode that probably doesn't make a lot of sense And tweet about it or like one or two lines of dialogue that is made for like twitter And then you never think about it or watch it again Yeah And that's but I guess that's the thing right that's the difference between the art that's remembered and art that's forgotten because I don't know man. Everybody was talking about like moon night But if you were to ask anybody to tell you anything about one scene I think they would really struggle including the people who said it was great Of which there are many of those people left and it's worth mentioning those same people turned on it real fast Yeah, everybody turns it's the cycle is incredible It's reduced over the course of this year, but it used to be that it was about two months before people turned on a marvel project And then by the time we got to like she-hulk and and uh and Thor Love and thunder it was like no, it's happening like straight away Um, and I guess the question is like if that's gonna feel like nobody's really black panther is still like number one But I don't feel like anybody's talking about it much I haven't heard basically anything about it. It's already sort of there's not much to be said about it And if that's what that movie is going to stick with you Well, that's the thing if that's happening now I get the impression that you give it a little bit of time and people go actually, you know, it wasn't that great Um, like it didn't really, you know, it wasn't it wasn't that it wasn't that compelling Um in terms of the story that it was telling there's like that's not And I guess it's just why would anything change in terms of phase five? Like I feel like Ant-Man's gonna be a film that people will oh man As I'm sitting here thinking about what I would predict for that I get the impression that people would be like, you know what it was actually surprisingly, okay And then give it a couple of months and that's like actually this shit That's the impression I get with that one Um, if you could go back and save a franchise from ruin, which would it be also high ranks? Hello Oh Probably marvel because it's the greatest like it's the the the number of stories is uh the largest Yeah, there's definitely that uh element who that's tough to Four good shows and movies per year Um, as opposed to any other Yeah, I think I think it's almost in a sense of just a moral duty to choose marvel in the if we guarantee gold Being spun from them. We get a shit ton of stories and it spans basically all genres So that seems to be the choice we should probably go with for the sake of you know, entertaining the world with great stories School investment That might be different like yeah I I tend to go like my mind drifts toward game of throats. I'm like god, what did you do? Why did you do that? Uh But that was just kind of the styles is definitely up there in terms of like and my boy what do they do to you? Um, it's funny because it's like what about terminator alien predator and I'm like, oh, yeah, I guess Yeah, they've been ruined for so long, but yes, you know And then I would almost feel like a moral obligation to try and rescue dr Who because it's it's one of the oldest ones and it's been treated so horribly is like A little unfair. So, you know, yeah, there's there's reason behind a lot of the different choices But I might just go for marvel just because we get sort of the best returns. I think Uh, what about you rank anything? Um, I think I'm with fringy on the marvel thing It's hard to argue against the sheer amount of content and the breadth of Just how how much it encompasses it is a wide wide umbrella of different stories and characters and Again when you get in you're getting three or so movies a year plus all of the shows Um And in in the amount of precedent that it sets to be of high quality And people linking the rewards in terms of, you know, the money in the corporate element You know to the quality of the stuff itself. I think that has um, I think that can pay dividends down the road for other people Why do they have grass on their heads? Uh, we're talking about the Offits, um for stealth reasons, right when we first meet them Something like that. Yeah, I think that's what they want us to think But they always have like acorns and stuff in their ears Like I get it. They're very close to nature But you didn't some of the elves and they don't look like nasty gremlins So who knows um, I would have I would have done it differently to portray that kind of lifestyle Like you could you could wash your face You know you could Hello rags Hello What is your opinion on bi representation in media i.e. bi people being flamboyant and attention seeking? I'm bi and I hate that we get stereotyped hut cream I didn't know that that was a stereotype of bisexual people that we're flamboyant and attention seeking Um, I'll be honest with you. I thought they were going to go a different direction with this and say it's kind of annoying You never see bi people. You only ever see gay or straight That's also what I thought this comment was leading to but honestly, I just I just don't really care at all honest I it's legitimately never something that I think about. Um So much so that I don't really even know how to answer your question because I just don't think about it It's just I just don't think about character sexuality I don't need to have a character who's my sexuality for me to think that they're, you know, excellently written Yeah, I think the three of us are cut from that same Bloss so to speak of like if a Welsh person pops up and people are like, oh this Welsh accent is cool And I like this Welsh character. I might be like, yeah Kind of neat But uh, if if I never saw a Welsh character at anything, I probably like I mean, I just want the characters to be good You know, if they show up especially nowadays when so many characters are written poorly I almost have the opposite like don't represent me. I you're gonna fuck you're gonna fuck it up Yeah, like I it's just never been Something that I I'm desperate to see and I don't think like like for a lot of the different Portions of what you could call our identity. I I really don't need it any of it I guess represented to feel good about my storytelling Some of my favorite characters aren't even remotely the same creatures as me So it doesn't matter. It's not something I'm concerned with Yeah, if I if I can appreciate an alien from another planet or something like that And I'm sure it just I I rank my sexuality so low in terms of You know, if who I am that it just doesn't even occur to me to really think about it But of course anything it sends up warning signs these days that they mention that sort of stuff because you know they're trying to Often put that in front of apparently good writing If um, if however, they were let's say across all my favorite piece of media There's always this one Welsh character who's just always an idiot and that's what everyone assumes is the case sort of thing I'd probably be like this a bit weird. I don't know why that's happened. Yeah, I wouldn't appreciate that. Yeah if Because of course I live in the south and you know America Not south America, but uh the opposite the south of the united states And you know, you know, there's there's a stereotypes, but you take the good with the bad and it's just Pretty much everyone, you know, it's just for funsies and whatnot and you just can't let them bug you Yeah, it even goes everyone has their stereotypes. Take the good with the bad You always you do get the uh the hillbilly types, but you also get plenty of like smart characters from southern parts of america Then in the same vein you get like all the stereotypes for all countries really Yeah, I mean if everyone's got it it's ever it's going to be everyone's turn eventually Or at least ideally, you know If everyone could be stereotyped and we can all just have fun and laugh at each other and not Be super serious about this and think some of us are beyond that sort of thing Even to the point where you better would enjoy the stuff like because like cano's almost a little like an exaggerated australian But uh, yeah, but like he's really fun. Yeah, so it doesn't really matter I mean, of course the australian one. Do you like the simpsons australian episode? It's like, yeah, I love that episode It's great. It's like do you think it's an authentic representation of australia? It's like it's funny, dude Like it's yeah, that's it. It's funny Uh You The half-hearts would make for a great horror movie. Thank you amazon. It's everything tolkin fans wanted Yeah, I'm all standing over watching with cold dead eyes as I was actually getting a similar visual in my head of like you encounter them as just some Inprepid explorer We don't really know what you're dealing with and you know that they're really friendly Then nighttime hits and you see maybe a twig break and you look outside your tent And there's just all these eyes and the darkness reflecting light and then they all start moving away and you're like Fuck what? You know kind of like uh, wasn't that that was kind of what kind of a payoff they went for in um Midnight mass remember the first episode? It was a it was all like was it rats or or birds or something But then one of them was It was a guy who was clearly a guy that moves away that that was a really cool scary payoff sort of thing I look forward to his next thing and it well Like I was saying I end it well Hey everyone on the e-fab. How is it going? Pretty good things are great things are going well I'm trying to try to keep on top of everything that's all big struggle Also Braggs I saw you on dr. G the other day in a random lobby, but you left before I said hello So here's some shackles Oh, thanks much. Uh, yeah, I I like deep rock galactic highly recommend it highly recommend it I haven't played in a while. I need to hop into that Please have a little platoon on for all remaining rings of power e-faps It's really nice having someone who knows the source to let you know how good it could have been Well wish granted Yeah, that's that's the plan he will be around for all that Oh, well, I meant it was granted in terms of season one, but Oh, yeah And to come as well and to come To come Put the bring out your dead scene from multi python next to this Oh like the next to the the halfords That doesn't probably do I believe it Bring out your dad And I ironically they they put all the bodies onto a cart The instrument of their demise assuming, of course, they didn't die from horrific bee stings or something like that Go what idiot wrote it so that they the one they laugh at is the guy who died to bees like Oh, I can't imagine that kind of death like fuck me. That must be awful to die from bee stings And they'd be like twice the size to a half foot. So She's just getting stung and being paralyzed. Maybe you probably maybe you choke because your throat swells up and it blocks your air passage Or you just die from the venom of all the stings There might be like scary fantasy bees that are twice the size anyway So it could just be like these horrifying huge bees to these full little half, but I say pull little half It's the old seem to be psychopathic Okay Um wings quarter of the day man. I I don't want to play this anymore, man. I vomited twice in the last hour What He vomited twice from playing a particular game. Damn. That's not good. Oh Uh, the true meaning of member berries. Hey member grandma My member love you all can't wait for my plushies to come in. I have so many plans for my goo Who meaning of member berries is member grandma? Member grandma, I'll be I don't see the word grandma without thinking about ruination Yeah I'm not sure what that refers to but yes, the plushies are on the way. It's true. Yeah, some people are getting them I'll try spinning my weapon. That's a good trick. Oh god. Oh god. My face is being eaten Wait a minute. What is what is that a reference to what happened? Getting probably referencing But I don't know spinning. Um Maybe like a ballerina like one of those barbie movies. She's she's a dancer and a lot of those and so she spins around I'm just I'm trying to think of what happened in rings of power to to make I I ain't got nothing. I'll try spinning. That's a neat trick I don't actually know what that refers to There's probably someone did a spin of some kind at some point in You know what my brain's going to is that stupid spinny dozen boba fat that guy remember? Oh, yeah, the guy when he shoots. Yeah, he goes to shoot his gun. He has to do a 360 first This is great so good. I think that every I wish a lot of times I wish every movie reviewer Just at least once went out to arrange and shot a handgun so that they could appreciate how insanely difficult it is to shoot A pistol So you have these you have these character shooting laser gun at long distances without even Without even like aiming down the sights and they just get all the time like Blast is a different you've never shot a definitely Correct I've not shot a blaster Yeah, there you go I like how the bug bad elf matches the supposedly racist description Tolkien gave for the orcs The oh big bad elf Big bad elf is you talking about? What's his name? The totally not saronga. Well, they actually not it are Ada. That's it. Yeah I don't know. I don't know what's going on with any of that. I guess I'm we'll find out in season two. I don't know Warhammer fantasy character of the day is grecious gold tooth Overtirent of the ogres. He owns the ivory road and believes he is too rich to walk Well, someone's follow himself. Yeah What's that about everyone's allowed you can walk you're not too too rich to what is that? Oh, terrible bad influence You have my sword and my bow and my twig Represent the half-foot so Yes, sir. All right Thank you for a great payoff. I rags is better than nothing. I guess plus If someone breaks your twig Now you have two twigs. So really twig always wins He also said hi, but oh, hello. I'm allah. Hello. Hi fringy Hey, hi little platoon. He'd say hello fringy. What are your thoughts on splatoon three so far? Uh, I like it, but I haven't played it for a while at this stage. So Yeah, I actually played a decent amount of it, but I stopped about a month back I want to say maybe more maybe less. I can't remember. Yeah, probably a month outside, too But um, yeah, it's neat. Splatoon's got a good, uh No gameplay loop, I guess Yeah, yeah, that's my story Um add skill points to wis not int The wisdom not intelligence, I guess Is wisdom a stat to upgrade in things typically? Uh, yeah, and um, yeah, it is. Yeah It is there is a I mean, it's a primary stat and like dungeons and dragons wisdom is a stat Interesting. What uh, how do they separate wisdom and intelligence? Um, depending on the class certain skills and abilities will scale better or worse based off of wisdom and intelligence And you could potentially have some of your skill checks not just abilities, but your skill checks could be based off of either wisdom or intelligence Um Certain different kinds of magic might use Wisdom to determine their efficiency as opposed to maybe spells might use intelligence things like that Um, I haven't played it in a while, but that's sort of it's sort of what it is So depending on the like if you were using like acrobatics, right that would use that's like a skill That's determined by your dexterity attribute because you know for pretty obvious reasons And so some things might be intelligent. Some things might be wisdom Fair enough Valinor has to pay for the wall. It's gonna be huge Gonna be huge Um, we had a good thing going with the good old morgoth siding elf hating men But you just had to blow it up you and your pride and your precious ego That is a mic reference Yep I love that though. We had a good thing going with good old morgoth siding elf hating bed We had child kill and fring That meme is priceless to me. We're watching breaking bed I commend y'all for reviewing this awful show for us. Thank you for your service. No problemo You're welcome It was um, it was quite a ride it was I mean I'm glad I saw it in a way, you know, like a lot of bad like I'm glad I saw the snider cut, but it might not have been I mean, it was it it was just that classic kind of bad The the you could point the fingers at all the things that don't make sense and why they're shit and stuff But we'll say though at least I don't know if it's better for it to be dense or not because I almost had more more engagement of fun reviewing the later episodes of rings of power than the other ones because like I would absolutely agree with that. It was definitely more engaging And it's funny because that show started boring, but it didn't stay boring That reflects what you were just mentioning with snider cut right like so much of snider cut was just empty calories Like extended moments of just nothing and it's like, oh And that's what that was Wakanda forever. There were big sequences of Wakanda forever where I'm just like Jesus christ I don't want to watch this there's just nothing Nothing really going on You feel like so much of this time is being wasted Yeah, all the second if you could call it the second act is very strange in him's a structure, but Whatevs Um, I will now begin writing a story. Oh, what do you I would say? I saw a tweet The it was either like this morning area yesterday where someone had I mentioned the guy who played Namor um, they had to Uh, they had to CGI his bulge to be smaller yes because he had a a An unfriendly enough package, I suppose and that outfit and apparently they've done that before they have to cg down a lot of a lot of bulges Surely they can just give him some some tight undies under there But I don't know. I guess I guess, you know, that would be uncomfortable and You know his health issues can't be having that Yeah, I can't be doing that sometimes I mean, or just give him a slightly different put like a something over it or have him have like one of those sort of loincloth things that comes down in front of it so that doesn't show or Just don't have something so tight skin tight to him. I don't know No cg. This is why I could never play Namor. They'd have to They have to CGI down my ginormous package I am the tempest that is approaching the lad reel 2022 That was a cringe line. That's why I reference it because it sticks with me You know, there's a tempest in me. You know, like Why are you guys so inconsiderate to start the stream when I'm still asleep? Keep a good wake. I'll watch it on mulu. All right Feel good I will now begin writing a story where a crazy elf lady goes to an island and begins threatening to kill everyone And then takes their jobs She takes all of them just Yeah, she's better at all of them than everyone else is She's the best when she's when it comes to jobs She's she's the best job. Have her endure Y'all go too fast still back on efeb 100 yet still i'm coming for you long man I'll find you and then I'll be caught up. Wait. I think I read that one, all right Unless they said it again Um, oh, yeah. Yeah, I recognize this we did these ones these ones I might have actually copied and pasted our super chest to do twice without realizing it guides danathor elby could be a regular Pringie plus showing it the wonders of the sink in the same way. I remember reading that I remember those You put it in nature's wallet. Yeah, I remember that talking magic is a mind you speak to for favor. Yeah, it's a wallet Um, I know you're doing things stuff. Could you please update the playlist? Yeah, so that's Yeah, yeah To do but uh, all right cool um Let me just find I mean if I think unless I fuck something up That means that we've done Everything other than the very efebs, you know, you know the first half this efeb was live Yeah, yeah, we were of course we were there. Yeah ones that came in during that is all we have left to do now for this Most excellent I'll just get them set Begins with high rags. Hello to you. Happy holidays massives Oh, thanks. You too. I hope you had a great god. What's the timeline has halloween happened yet? I think they're talking about halloween, but fuck it now. We're talking about christmas. Yeah Hope you have a very merry christmas and if this comes out then have a great christmas 2023 Duh Jink lead sounds Jingle all the way You have a favorite christmas song Oh, I think I've said this before like christmas song is a lot of them I'm like, uh, I've heard that a bazillion times, but it'll always be around christmas. And so they all have that association Well, I just really any any sort of christmas song So it could be it could be silent night. It could be last christmas by wham It could be, you know any kind of You know any kind of christmas song none of them like strike me as a song that I'd be like, oh man Do I love that one? They're all just songs where I'm like, that's fine I think that's fair, especially when you hear them so much But you only hear them at a certain time a year. So that does a whole bunch to To make it nice in a way. Yeah. Yeah, if I heard them all through the year I would just I I'd lose my fucking mind But because I only hear them around december I uh, I really don't mind that They just have that appeal. They're just iconic and you like them Bring you would like running shrines could be 64 videos molar and rags might like it too Running kirby shrines Some shrines Running shrines Maybe maybe that'd be interesting. Okay Thoughts on these two movies a christmas story and the jim carry a christmas carol from 2009 my favorite christmas movies I have not seen the latter, but I enjoy the former quite a bit I mean a christmas story is a fucking classic It really is really christmasy It's very christmasy and the fact that it's done so well from the point of view of a child Is you know, I suspect maybe not so much or not as much for maybe our generation But particularly, you know, if you're a little bit older Um, yeah, I hear that hits really really well to You know, it's very relatable for people who grew up in that time period as a kid But uh, I mean it's got so much of that classic christmas stuff You know that whether it's the kid saying oh fudge Or whether you know the leg lamp the the bunny suit It's this just it's so good And of course we're all fans of jingle all the way, of course, but always worth an honorable mention Oi molly brave of you to say atreus is just an inferior Elizabeth calmstock on your own god of war streams I I had serious issues with elizabeth calmstock from playing infinity wars. So that's Jesus christ infinite Um By doubt I would have said that but if I did I was wrong because uh, obviously the reality is that like Uh, atreus fits in with the narrative so much better. Elizabeth breaks it like seriously several times like her mechanics Just fuck with the entire plot line. Hey, I can just summon in some like Some some guns for you. Yeah, let me open a table with different realities So I can grab your machine gun like what and let's just you know, maybe try Let's just leave Oh, look a key Powers and how they work like in general. Yeah, I'm telling you everybody a mathematosis It's an oldie, but goldie when he's going over bio shock infinite that game sucks a little The little timeline shot so that yeah, he does He he takes a lot of time and effort to explain to you that that game's story and mechanics do not make sense The people who wrote that were sniffing their own parts Well, that that game survived because it was part of a particular era where game journalists seemed like especially insecure about their occupation And so like they needed to stand for like those types of video games Well, remember when that game came out and everybody was saying Oh, Elizabeth is like the perfect care for character for for escort missions. She's so wonderful You never have to I remember comparisons to Ashley It's just they fixed escort missions by just not having She's not a part of the gameplay meaningfully Yeah, I've said it before but the game broke when I first watched it when they needed to get Uh for the vox popular or whatever to to be able to get out of Columbia they needed to get them ships And then they were like so all we need to do is go to a reality where ships are available And then grab them or guns or whatever and then bring them back and it's like What why don't you just leave? Just leave Wrong with you like that is the most of you have the power to do that and you're like, yeah, let's go get the thing They need like uh, wasn't one of the uh the rules as well that if you died in another universe you like went insane Oh god, I don't yeah. Yeah. Yeah exactly. Yeah, like what in the Which means that everyone would be it everyone would be Same thing with multiverse of madness. You can't don't do infinite multiverses because you're not ready Because that's you're not ready to commit to that and you know, no one ever does Isn't it you you read like a some kind of entry from think and he says the the way he came up with handyman Was that a portal opened and he happened to watch dr. Su Chung making a big daddy And he was like, oh, that's a good idea. Oh some shit. I remember reading it being like no fucking way. Are you kidding me? That didn't happen It's so cringy Yeah, that burial at sea where uh, elizabeth was behind it all sort of thing They they make her the progenitor of a lot of significant events of rapture which drove me insane I couldn't take it That's funny because everyone always says like yeah, the game is not so great, but but burial at sea is really good It's like nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. No, no, no, no, no, no, no Hey, maybe we'll uh, maybe we'll do a breakdown on that someday. That'll be fun Someday like 10 years from now Um, as as as it is, uh, I guess freaky's getting coffee. I have to use the loo real quick So it'll be just you for a moment. Oh Funny because I knew Let's all go potty parade don't be doing that kind of nobody here and you guys will be listening to nothing Yes, uh It'll be edited and added on so you got this big ol e-fab That's uh, it's mainly designed for us to be able to catch up and it looks like we'll be able to get chunks through it Still got a big ol set of she-hulk to the chats that we'll catch up with at some point and then we got uh The episode 200 ones which we've done three recording sessions for so we need to keep going on them as well Obviously while maintaining the actual episodes where we talk about media the focus as opposed to the All It's all coming along. We're gradually catching up all at the same time trying to make some videos As you Doing this that and the other Um I do see our backlog is getting is shrinking and shrinking with super chat. She's very very good Trying to get back to caught up which I'm thinking it slowly and steadily That's why we do uh offline ones every once in a while because it means that we don't have to Add to the backlog I'll still getting you guys the kind of stuff you want to see like coverage Yeah, I think by the time this one comes out, you'll have seen now a full coverage for Ragnarok Which that was a neat game How about that? um God seriously, it's like so that's two, but then there was a potential third Ragnarok stream We were going to do but I don't think a little of time now, so we're going to be just two there's a third If upstream I've already got a video for we want to respond to there's one the the movie bob ones We really wanted to check out There was uh several videos saying that she Hulk was amazing Not sure we'll cover that in time That it could be Callisto protocol gets covered don't know All right i'm back Well, uh since you're back, I suppose I shall I'll continue on uh, yeah, go for it. Matthew metosis is ocarina of time video is excellent And running shrines ocarina of time video matches in re-brought watchability Matthew metosis is just a quality Quality content creator. It's legitimately where I'm so glad that If there's a youtuber that you want to watch for game reviews that can inspire you and sort of You know All right. Yeah, Matthew metosis does a lot of long-form content and is very analytical and thoughtful on a lot of the Mechanics and story elements that are present in games and what they imply for the concept of game design and he's I really like I really really like his stuff He doesn't post that much But a lot of his old stuff is it's excellent thoughtful content. I'd highly recommend everyone take a look at Matthew metosis He's a good creator to have you know kind of rub off on you in terms of their style and how they think So if you're looking to get into game reviews, then I I would recommend Given his stuff a look if you can soak anything out of his stuff and it kind of becomes a part of your thought process Chances are that would be really good I guess moller is still away and fringy's grabbing I guess a drink or something. Yeah, I'm I got my coffee. He's back. All right Mahler had to step out to use the lu real quick All right, so it's just us we someone had mentioned in a super chat the Matthew metosis video on ocarina of time So I guess that's coincidental considering we just brought him up for bio shock info That is actually a crazy coincidence I think I might have seen that video maybe a long time ago. Yeah, I can't remember if I've seen it or not I'm not sure which one I would pick is my favorite video that he's made I uh, I know that I was really because a game that I picked up based on his recommendation was ghost trick, which was made by uh, made by the uh, the team that did uh, phoenix, right? It's like this really cool puzzle game that has a neat story and then like an interesting mechanics I think that was one of the games that he I don't know. It's um something that I find interesting about his coverage is that something he focuses in on is um Where the the gameplay sort of synergizes with the like narrative or the the kind of broad tone or Uh vibe that a game is trying to go for and like one of the big critiques of infinite is It's a first person shooter because that's what's popular right now Yeah, when it shouldn't be like a stealth game or something because you're trying to escape a city, you know Yeah, like there was absolutely no consideration in the development for hmm. What kind of I it's difficult to say what gameplay is the narrative way around or the other Yeah, because I guess it could be one of two ways, right? What kind of narrative do we want to tell with the mechanics that we've chosen to focus in on or alternatively? Uh, what kind of gameplay loop do we want to have based on the narrative that we want to tell like it's you know one way or the other and uh, it seems like A lot of the time when a game puts some thought into that like the developers put some thought into that It can yield really good results And when ludo narrative dissonance is like a concept is totally discarded as irrelevant. It can often have bad outcomes I um, I'm not sure what you want with it. Yeah. Go ahead I was just going to say that I I think I don't know who said it, but it was someone at Nordidog said that I don't really think about like ludo narrative dissonance I'll see if I can find it. Oh, you probably should Well, yeah, the reality is you have to it's like ludo narrative dissonance is kind of like um It's tied into suspension of disbelief. Whether you want to think about it or not people will think about it People will invariably think about it. Yeah, um, and if they If they don't think about it, it probably means you're doing it right, so All right Here it is So apparently was actually talking about uncharted because uncharted often gets lumped in right? Nathan drake you've done like uh, well, he's got like a very, you know upbeat sort of he's he's like the the heart of gold um You know rogue, but he kills hundreds of people Like that's that's like there's this big disconnect between the story of uncharted and what you do in the gameplay Apparently there was a trophy in the game called ludo narrative dissonance that you get if you kill a thousand enemies um and they Said that the studio was quote-unquote conscious to have fewer fights But it came uh more from a desire to have a different kind of pacing than to answer the ludo narrative dissonance argument because we don't buy into it um Man, that's interesting because like uncharted force pacing I think is like one of the weakest in the series Like if you play that game from the beginning it takes like a good three to four hours before like the game starts And when I say like the game starts, I mean the the core gameplay is sort of made entirely available to you Consistently going forward That game is slow to start But I guess that's funny, right? We don't buy into it. It's like you have to because everybody does Like it was it was the big complaint about tomb raider the cutscene She's really sad that she had to kill this guy and then like five minutes begins I mean you've done one. What's a hundred more? Yeah, there's an end for penny and four pounds. I'm so sorry. It's like this is feeble This doesn't work. It's if anything it's worse because you recognize that it's a thing and then you didn't care I can't even say that you just didn't even consider it You clearly did and you fucked with it anyway. Well, it's um because because I think ludo narrative dissonance is kind of uh There's there's that and then there's also just um I guess like more like is it ludo narrative dissonance that a character dies and then responds? It's like not really you can just sort of treat that as like a non canonical Outcome of your game. Yeah, if you have a war game like, you know battlefield You're not playing a you it's easy to say that Oh, this is like this is an abstract version of a battle where you have all of these soldiers fighting And if one dies then there's other soldiers in that army and you know things like that And it and it's so commonplace in games that you don't even I mean you don't even think about the fact that resurrection I mean the player keeps to get playing You know keeps playing with the character if you know, especially if you're here. Yeah So that's easy to rationalize. Yeah, I'm thinking about battlefield now because that's an interesting one Is it ludo narrative dissonance when I guess I'm not talking about the new well The new ones would have it too with that specialist like the fact that there's only four times more special on each side What depends more so with that special? Well, I the reason why I find it interesting is more I'd say it's worse because they're distinct characters rather than a general generic soldier. Yeah with the uniform. Absolutely. Yeah, and I think um I look at that as an example of is is there a dissonance when you watch a stage play And you've got the actors up on the stage and the set dressing is like minimal to some extent And the actors are kind of angled like three quarters towards the audience, you know It's like a general rule. Is that is there a dissonance there? It's like no because I'm like buying into what this is um, I recognize that this is a stage play and I can suspend my disbelief to like Draw myself into what I know is ultimately like performance writing and and uh art and stage craft and I feel like it's the same with video games, right like if there's um You know like an NPC that looks the same as the other one. It's like within reason I can just sort of be like, yeah, well, I can use my imagination. No, yeah Yeah, I can I I it's fine. I can deal with it compared to Where like the story directly contradicts what's happening in gameplay or vice versa um, I mean again, it's it's interesting that Neil Druckman said that because the last of us too It is like broken because of the dissonance Where ellie will just happily gleefully kill all these people that she didn't know who did nothing to her personally Get when she finally gets to the person who actually wronged her she lets her go I mean while ignoring the mountain of bodies that she had to including fat gerald, you know Like the hero He helped her he did she promised to let him live and she killed him anyway. Yeah That's that's a that's a Yeah, I can't root for That one's just like I don't know what you're doing Yeah, what are you trying to tell me when you do this? I think that's what I would want to know is like Neil What was I meant to think here and it's like, oh, you know, it's just like violence or what it does to people It's like, yeah, but like what am I meant to make of ellie? I don't have choices here. I don't choice later on Are they right? You just say they like I can't get behind that. I was just immediately flashing to remember what I said I'd kill you last. Yeah, you did say that I lied I can't get behind him in that movie, okay Don't Don't disturb my friend. He's dead He snapped his neck on the plane. Yeah, the funny part is he flails his arms up. It's so goofy looking Oh, come on though. Mm-hmm. Let off some steam Bennett. Holy shit. Isn't that incredible? It is even when you have a game like If you have whether it's advanced wars or any kind of a war game That's turn-based You can rationalize that in the sense of well, you know, real war has like tactics and strategy And that's what how this game is presenting that concept to me So it's easy for you to you know, imagine, you know a turn-based game In the sense of like a large-scale conflict or even fighting how it's a give and take how You know people react to what each other, you know, what each other does In as far as I know in dungeons and dragons and pathfinder There is a turn-based system to the battles and the fights And it is generally considered that someone's turn or that around lasts um It's like six seconds a turn is kind of how that like kind of like a way to mentally Understand how it happens as everyone moves and that takes about six seconds a person and duck to duck So you can kind of get a grasp of how it works But there's always that element of oh you're in an abstract way This fight is happening and a turn-based system is how you're presenting that to me so that I can participate in it In this way and it's it's easy for people to you know get behind that Yeah, I think I think it's easy for people to look past as long as there is no Evident contradiction in terms of the story. I think that's the important part of the dissonance Yeah, what you story stuff is hard to rationalize Versus gameplay is easy to rationalize because you just use the gameplay Everyone's like oh, yeah, this is just a game. It's fine. It's not you know part of the story or the characters themselves This is just how the gameplay happens. It's fine. It's easy to you know get behind I still want points given for when they do try though I yeah Exactly when I mean that's because we're we got on to this because Matthew Matosis like when he talks about how Oddworld Apes Odyssey like the gameplay is is uh is is working with the story They're both complimenting each other and it's like It's worth praising when A choice is made like that because that is the choice being made by the developer Well, I don't know if it'll come out. That is Theo's primary criticism for god of war is that the opposite of The gameplay is at odds with the narrative I Feel like ragnarok like the of the third person narrative like action adventure sony games. It is the least Distinent one of like that category Well, it's gonna come up And it would have come up by now in the timeline for when people will listen to this we would have talked about it But it's just yeah, it's hard It's really hard to associate when someone says I fucking can't stand the walking talky bits I just want to get back to the combat and then Theo's like you see that's uh Sort of like how it goes That's the that's the break you have to experience and then I'm just sitting there like but it is congruent to me I move from those pieces seamlessly and happily so like We're gonna be drawing it from what experience it generates, you know It starts to get difficult for me to associate with it because I was you know, I would rather extend it then to be in like I fucking hate You know call of duty whenever they're doing their parts. We're like, oh, here's the mission. We got to go It's like this ruining the whole game ruining the whole game. I can't take it. I just want to shoot things And you know for that person, I should be like, you know calm down man. That's fine Mm-hmm, and I just wonder where we're supposed to draw the line or how we draw the line Or should a line even be drawn Who knows You pokemon is fun, but ugly as fuck It looks ugly as fuck based on what I've seen it does not look Uh, it's it legitimately feels like they've taken a step back 2d is a one. There's nothing wrong with things being 2d. It's a wonderful style You can do so much with it and in place of like sheer Attempt at graphics and stuff you can you can put all that into you know, just content Mechanics, you know things of that nature. It's so easy to realize things um I'm I don't know. I just don't want I don't want what happens to 2d style games To be what has happened to 2d animation. It seems I feel like the indie space keeps uh 2d I but I guess that's that's kind of a good point They do I think yeah like rayman legends right this really amazing 2d platformer that was made by ubisoft and No more sequels, you know just didn't keep going It's like that's unfortunate. Yeah when it comes to stuff like uh, I think rimworld is a perfect example I adore that game so much when you look at it graphically. It's not that impressive But there's so many underlying mechanics and things that make that game what it is I shuttered to think of what happened what would have happened if they decided to try and make a more Like a three-dimensional game That that just had really really good graphics, you know How much that would sort of compromise the theater of the mind element that I appreciate Like characters in rimworld. It's just a body and a head And if they have their weapon out that it just sort of floats in front of them, you know It's sort of like rayman style in a way Um And I don't want them to add like limbs and everything to the character They have limbs like health like people can lose arms and legs and fingers and stuff But it's not visually represented So much of what happens in the game is it's very abstract and you fill it in in this theater of the mind sort of You know storytelling, you know aspect of yourself and I really value the game for that So I wouldn't want it to really look any different RE8 was designed to make everyone feel comfortable to play Including the ones who thought RE7 was too scary. No joke I thought Which did you think was more scary? seven or eight Pretty sure it was seven. I don't know the demo for seven scary I thought seven was scarier than eight. Yes um but I guess I was at the time of playing. I think I was more critical of eight But I think that's warranted in a lot of ways considering what they were trying to do. Um I enjoyed eight more But I'm more angry at eight Yeah It's not a good game guys That's sonic frontiers soured a bit on the third island Oh Why I don't know what the general sentiment is on that game. Nobody's really talking about it Yeah, I couldn't tell you I legitimately couldn't tell you anything about sonic games. I just that's just not a world I'm talking about this. Why did they release it right next to ragnarok? That was a bad move I don't know why they yeah, I don't know. I guess they're like, hey west sonic the hedgehog That's just a little god of war I don't know I don't know Is there another black mirror episode that's as existentially terrifying as white christmas? I think it takes the cake in pure impossibly cruel horror Well, yeah, and it it got around and people like that's how I saw it was enough people were like you got to see this episode It's real spooky Yeah, so I don't know actually I haven't seen a more black mirror. I assume you guys haven't either I have not seen any black mirror now Please watch pig, please Perhaps Maybe maybe Guys, would you consider making short form content to explain concisely why certain things are good bad, etc So more normie people can understand it um I guess we haven't considered it At least I haven't at least but I mean I if you had if we have a lot of bits and bobs that you could Take out of our conversations if the idea that Maybe in a in in some way releasing very like bite-sized bits of discussions and things There's an idea there. I don't know if it's ever something that will be pursued, but It's not a terrible concept, but um Like I'm not sure Yeah, I can understand not against it, but I don't know it would how it would Work, but I'm not against it Those pitiful polemics is the little bit of that in it. Yeah, I was about to say that Um, that's kind of like my attempt to doing short form but like that is hyper specific on one topic and I could talk about a lot of those topics for longer than like five to ten minutes really um, it's it's difficult that That concise is a is a fun word because I think a lot of people think that it means short But really it's like distilling the information that you want to convey um in The the briefest manner possible without like losing um Because that's like the difficulty in shortening something down is at what point do you lose enough information that what you're saying is kind of wrong Um Explaining how a nuclear reactor works is different. It's it's gonna be long There's no way to do that because of it. I mean, there's there's a way to do it concisely, but there's not a way to do it Concisely in short Yeah, exactly concise and short and not the same thing Um, and I mean, you know, it's like how does a wheel work concisely could say it turns, you know a bingo Yeah, it rotates around and that's how the wheels of a car work. Yeah And even then it's like, you know, how much information does somebody really want? Uh, how much information ought to be conveyed in order to like best Um, man, I was about to say how would it be conveyed to best convey it to somebody? but Their communication is I don't know that there's only so short that you can Uh, that you can only be so short before you have basically said nothing or have said something inaccurate So it's valueless almost. It's just not yet. It works pointless Had people say like, why doesn't he just say tfa is bad? But yeah, I guess I guess that's more concise Oh, I could have just tweeted that, you num skull But the thing is it's like, don't you want to hear the arguments? Surely that's what we're here for If you literally just want to hear someone say what you think in their own voice then maybe this isn't the place for you Which name is better the fat controller or sir topham hat Well, the the ladder feels like a name in the former doesn't Yeah Fat controller sounds funny. Wasn't the fat controller from uh, thomas the tank engine. Isn't that his name? I don't know I don't know either. Okay. I thought that was a character from thomas the tank engine I'm not saying it isn't. I just don't know I didn't watch thomas the tank engine All right, apparently it's now called thomas and friends. They've changed it. It used to be called thomas the tank engine and friends uh Fair enough. I guess I don't I I suppose I have no strong opinions. What? Oh, and apparently it's it's over like it ended in 2021 It ended in 2021. Did he die? It ran from 1984 to 2021 24 seasons Wow, that's 584 episodes. That's impressive as fuck Yeah, the fact that's right. This the fat controller was the character He was like the guy in charge of the train station Yeah, yeah, that's the guy. Yeah, I didn't thought I I knew he was called fat something I didn't know if it was controller or if it was like conductor or well I see that's the question because his real name is sir topham hat Oh So which team is better probably sir topham Well, it's an actual name the other's more of a like a title or a description designation. Yeah the fat controller. Yeah um I argued with someone on twitter over wakanda not sharing their cure for cancer and ability to fix disability. He called me a classic colonizer Classic colonizer thinking that someone else should do something for the betterment of mankind The national cooperation is colonization The funny thing about it is they can have things in return. Give us the cure to cancer We'll pass over to you like what do you need you probably need something I doubt you have everything in wakanda will vibrate him equivalents of everything It's just trade. We'll give you land. You can have land Yeah Believe me. There's a lot of things we'd be willing to give you for the cure to fucking cancer Because remember if america had the cure to cancer and we didn't give it out and share it They'll it'd be nothing but hatred and condom. I almost said condensation Condescension and all that sort of stuff. It's you know, this it's an insane obvious double standard that they would have What conda is everything that they say that they hate but they're too dumb to know Um I mean they needed to account for and they just didn't the narrative because any writer would not be able to deal with that An interview. Why don't Wakanda share their cure for cancer? I think the writer would be more likely to be like Have they I don't think they have good cancer. I don't Have they you're just like yes Well, uh, well the other stuff and Look there's complicated agreements that need to take place. There's there's all kinds of um Uh things to consider there you go next question Uh speaking of crimbous time watch fat man for christmas e fat movies you massives that's the um That's a movie about a Who's the who's the main dude in that? Oh, isn't he the um Oh, yeah, who that's uh Wait what film sir fat man like a santa movie It's What's his name, uh Mel was mel Gibson Oh, that might be it. Yeah, I think so I'm not games watching that. Yeah, that could be fun What happens in that movie? Uh, hi rags involves a fat man. I can only assume but also hello. Hi ringy Hey, I'm all hello also get on watching and or fringy your goo Yeah, fringy has to do with it, but Uh, well, yeah, we do need to figure that out at some Uh, a great only plays thumbnail is kirby 64 Oh boy Oh, jeez Response to being poked like that Beautiful if you have the ability to replicate any, uh Feet or item from a book 30 minutes. So like any Great, oh, I thought you meant like people's like toes on them. I was like, well, I don't know This is a tough question But it could only use any story once so no multiple bible shenanigans. What books would you keep on hand all the time? All right, just for clarity say the question once more. So I'm so I'm clear So feet spelt fe 80 if you had the ability to replicate any feet or item from a book for 30 minutes But could only use any story once for no multiple bible shenanigans. What books would you keep on hand all the time? So I can use it for 30 minutes I guess just once and that's it But it's only one from each one from a book So I use a power from a book or it can perform a feat And then that's that book done. I can't use that power from that book again uh I'm just gonna look for all the books about like, you know, ultimate web. It's the ultimate power-ups, right? Like that's what we're gonna be aiming to be like, yeah, all sorts of magic books with harry potter stuff in them spellcraft telepathy telekinesis superhero comics full of them Yeah, stuff like that. Um, yeah the ability to fly or to become invulnerable things of that nature Yeah, that's that I guess Nothing specifically comes to mind, but except probably what you'd expect, you know, incredible feats of strength being super strong being super You know aware maybe a little bit of uh, you know prescience Uh Book so yeah, let me like stuff like harry potter and lord of the rings and things like that do that Are just full of these interesting abilities that could be super useful to have at any point I have no idea where any of my super chats are and at this point I'm too afraid to find out also a good holiday film to see with family is claus Wow, oh, that's the one with uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that netflix one that has that neat style to it And norm mcdonald's in it Yeah, he's a voice for one of the characters Yeah, I have no idea and as for where your super chats are that's the it's the nature of the beast You're gonna have to check out the the catch-ups might be able to find but cataloging thousands of messages is not Easiest of things. It's not even easy to make sure we actually catch all of them, but not yet failed Yeah, that's why fringy night expedite all the responsibility to mauler. Yeah, exactly How you do on that on getting all those super chats, all right, we're proud of you How you do you do good work around here? Yeah, I try Oil in that little them gears, you know Burning that midnight oil How Murray saved christmas for e-fat movies How Murray saved christmas Still Murray, I don't Maybe well, that's what other Murray would there be always no Murray. Yeah I'm familiar with that one. I feel like if you were you'd always refer to bill Murray is just bill He seems like a kind of person. You just refer to him as bill You know, he seems like a bill the big subversion is that he's always wanted to go by Murray, but nobody Mr. Murray, maybe he has like a degree and he legitimately prefers doctor Murray I could be it But everyone just knows him as that goofball bill Murray the funny guy Uh, do you guys remember cinematic venom? He talked about his Lord the Rings review being bad and seems open to coming on e-fat Oh, yeah, I hope you've been well, of course. I haven't absolutely. I hope he's doing really great Yeah, it's been uh I be fun to maybe have a chat with him and see what see how everything went because um Obviously, I've always I always hope that the coverage of such videos are not harsh Yeah, we hope that it it leads to growth and self-improvement and all that Oh, you know all that stuff. Yeah Um, we would the last thing we want to do is have someone like shut off their channel and everything We don't want to do that. I hope he's doing wheel Uh, mullet you have any happy stories from the store you worked at three if any Not really no three three if any you don't have any happy stories. No, I only have tolerable days Wow Enough no good little dude. I used to like I had a friend I've told for me about this. I had a friend who like just refused to do any work to the point where he was on benefits Uh, and you would find ways of extending it by pretending to have looked but not actually finding work And it capped out eventually and they were like they started looking into his case until they were like You definitely got a job offer here Go get it and he did and he got it and after a half day He left and he was like miserable and he told me that he just couldn't handle being told what to do He just couldn't do it the works too much. He's just that's the that's the spirit of the entrepreneur I can't handle being told what to do. He should Of course he started his own business No, uh, so Yeah, so I always you know, I one of those people is just like you got to fucking like you want to be part of this society You've got to got to actually like give a little to get a little right You can't just get away with being like no, I don't take orders bitch and leave Literally just mooching off of every other Yeah, that's you know, so I'm I'm of the miser is like I've got to try right and like I worked at that place for a long time And it was absolute nightmare. I've told earlier on in eFap I told all of the harsher stories that I remembered But I've almost forgot all of them now except of one about stealing the game. That's what I'll never forget but um No, there was never there was never something really good that happened there that made me like, oh I'll never forget this. It was always just wow that day wasn't painful I was fine all that hour or that minute or that interaction uh But yeah, sorry It's a shame my other jobs there were there were sub highlights of just fun times But honestly it's been so long since them that I I'm not even sure I remember those anymore um Yeah, my brain didn't hang on but uh my brain made sure to file that uh toy store nightmare nothing good to report I remember when I uh put in my notice the the boss was like, oh okay Cool man gonna go there Obviously after the notice expired because that's what you're supposed to do right? You don't just Abandon you don't Yeah, you put in your two weeks. Is it two weeks for you over there because over here it's typically put in your two weeks notice yeah, and then uh Put in a two weeks notice and then you uh, then you could fuck off without any moral weight on your mind, you know Hey guys and rags. Hello. Hello need a new computer and I'm tempted to get a pre-built. Are there any that are good or is it not worth it? There are absolutely many that are good, but there are also many that are bad So make sure you read reviews and stuff before you get one better in terms of uh, absolutely Because like 10 years ago. I think it was just alienware Yeah, and they still have the reputation from back in the day Yeah, whereas now it's like there seem to be a lot of reputable companies where you can like customize your computer Get it pre-built like get it sorted looking nice. Yes there is a plenty of there's a channels like gamers nexus and things like Channels like them who will review pre-built their values performance thermals things of that nature So if you find one that looks like it's about what you're kind of looking for Always look for a review of it because they are they are absolutely out there Um, fringy you talk so much about daredevil. I'm surprised you haven't been dare fringy for a halloween efat month That's kind of a neat idea. I need to oh wait. I was about to date this video Date this uh, this catch up Well, all right. Maybe we'll see you darefring at some point. Maybe I was just gonna talk about Christmas ring devil Fring devil darefring or fring devil frerevel I don't know. I feel like I feel like um, I feel like fring devil makes more sense right because it would be emphasizing the devil aspect More so than uh, you know what I mean, which we regularly do with you. Yeah, we often emphasize your devil aspect Well, all right. No need to be There needs to be like that. Okay. Well, there's nothing wrong with being a devil. Yeah, what do you mean? We're just talking about how daredevil's awesome. Would you have? Yeah, I mean, why would you You're strange More into that than I am but okay What would you mean when you said you didn't want rags to do it? Yeah, I'll I'll I'll let you guys figure that one out for you. So it was next super chat All right, bring these uh, getting politician on us communicator. Yeah As there's nothing politician politiciany about that. It's literally identity politics. Yep identity politics once again Wow, wow So sent a super chat back in july Saying I started eFAP in february nine months later. I'm 100 caught up on everything eFAP except for the super chat catch-up minis Thanks again. Do you understand that like That sounds unbelievable. Yeah, like I have trouble believing you I mean good on you, but like are you sure that you're able to do that from july to now Well, yeah, so in nine months they They watched all of eFAP. So I guess that is possible Um, especially with long long shifts, you know Uh, thanks again for the entertainment while I work from home. Have a nice Thanksgiving rags Oh, thank you And I did Sweet, yeah, thank you. Hope you enjoy the show and continue to Brother, you're covered in by frost. Yes by frost insurance will cover you axe head to toe throughout all the realms That's that's pretty good by frost Troy mclure would promote by frost insurance. Who's that? All right, you he's from the simpsons Oh I bet if I saw a picture of him I'd recognize. Yeah, I mean you might you might remember him from such films I don't have any of the references The day we kill tomorrow we die and glad is the groovy mule May remember there are a lot of uh, there are a lot of them And the president's neck is missing The president's neck is missing. Yeah, I think about the the uh, the it was like the 1950s video about a world without zinc Yeah, we're like for some reason this guy just asked for a world without zinc And then like he started realizing, you know, like his phone doesn't work or anything And he's like, what am I doing? That sounds like the big that sounds like the premise of like a 1950s educational video for kids Like a 1940s. Yeah a world without zinc That's actually what it is though because it's not Oh And and he tries to stop me like yep, that's right billy You know like that the the the trigger mechanism and a gun is made of that's right zinc and then he's like come back zinc Come back It turns out he's sleeping and there was a nightmare Thank god he lives in a world with all of these wonderful things powered by zinc. Yeah He learned a valuable lesson don't underestimate don't underestimate the importance of zinc That's right. I certainly won't Cherish all of the elements Cherish your zinc Wings quote of the day I know people think I've got paper thin skin. I feel like I'm mentally strong like I'm one of the mentally strongest people I know He said this with zero irony in his voice bonus. I don't really ever get mad. I get frustrated with how I'm playing Okay, me too. Me too. I never get mad when I scream at the monitor And throw things at the wall. It's just it's just frustration, but I'm not Yeah, like it's frustration when he's frustrated right quit the game with one hand as he tosses it across I don't like the control of the thing I will say when he says like mental toughness. All right, like he's he's probably he's a do it a lot of people Yeah, like in terms of you know, he's probably mentally numb Probably that might be what it is. Yeah, he's just numb to it It's like he's broken Well, I mean how resilient is a broken pot and it's like well I mean, I guess it doesn't really matter because it's already it's already shattered to a million pieces so it's almost like not even You know like a trait that means anything at that point I guess the thing is is that I wonder if it's if it's a matter of resilience So more so a matter of for as much as he will complain about it He would still rather play video games for a living than like work a regular nine to five You know like for for as much as he says call of duty ruined his life Would you rather play call of duty and make money or would you rather? I don't know like go work in a kitchen or you know, go work in fast food. I bet he'd love to work in a kitchen I bet he wouldn't he wouldn't because that's work What do you mean? I can't eat everything Yeah, I guess it's just yeah, it's interesting right Is it like is it a matter of resilience or more a matter of like? Well, I guess it is resilience right because you're so determined to keep playing call of duty and counter strike Wait, no he plays rainbow six stubborn Maybe it is stubbornness right like the stubbornness to persist with something Because of course right saying call of duty ruined my life And I hate this game, but I have to play because that's what gets me views. It's like that say That's not really resilience is it that's just like I don't I'm not I'm not quite sure what that is, but that's not I don't know if that's resilience Yeah, I think resilience is being able I think the connotation of resilience is that you can avoid damage to yourself In a physical or mental way generally for in a good or productive Kind of purpose. I think that's the big thing about it right resilience means that you push through something That's negative with an attitude that is at least neutral to positive Um, I don't know that you know, or maybe maybe not maybe the attitude isn't that important, but I I feel like it resilience imbues like the word sort of has a level of um Positivity to it. I don't know that applies to Playing call of duty while getting made fun of like while you're live streaming and then complaining about Not playing well in call of duty, but you have to play it because that's what gets you views Well, you were asked a super chat once asking if we would rather be cowardly or stubborn and I think that He chose stubborn, but he's like the negative version of having chosen stubborn Yeah, like persisting with something that's not working or making you happy, but God's anyway, yeah like you can't Though I would say that yeah, it seems that if the choice is stubbornness or cowardice, it's better to be stubborn Then it is to be cowardly Yeah, I think that's what we all agreed on unless you know What's open about courage the cowardly dog who is very courageous really he's he's not I guess that's kind of like it's great that he's called courage because he's not a coward Courage the cowardly dog is very brave Well, he's extremely brave. That's right Because Yeah, it's it's a it's something that you You have to remember about you know, it's it's like what is Be you know, what is bravery? What is courage? It's not that you aren't afraid of anything It's that you could still You know do good things and do what you need to do Despite all of that fear and that is truly courage the cowardly dog. He's always afraid of everything, but he still Saves Muriel in the day and he's he does all that stuff despite his you know his incredible terror Well, that yeah, I mean it's there is no such thing as bravery or uh courage without fear like that's baked into it That yeah, you can't be brave if you like literally aren't afraid of anything Well, yeah, like is it brave to get up go to the kitchen get like Bottle of water out of the fridge. It's like there's nothing really brave about it I guess unless you have to like walk through a minefield to get to your fridge but You know like yeah courage the coward He maybe maybe wings needs to watch some cut. Well, no, he's not he's not a coward. He's stubborn. That's right That's what we learned Yeah, well you got your money Bonus quote. Well double bonus quote Sai all right go ahead and ban people talking about my halloween costumes. I've already seen big al's toy barn in chat like 12 times I would happily see him dressed up as al's toy I Love thanks for immoralizing immoralizing me on my birthday. I think they mean immortalizing, but um I'll I'll You you bet No problem, man. Anytime Unless like only if it's on your birthday anytime as long as you're for it's your birthday How much super chats will chat his chat during this e-fap super chat chat. Hi rags Hello Um a lot so many that we're still not through them all yet, but we're getting there Uh, there's a god of war audio book read entirely by mamiya That sounds awesome. Oh, I might even be tempted to check that out actually Hold on god of war audio book I'll be allister duncan is the name you'd want I did not know that this is Uh, god of war the official novelization What uh, what events is it covering? I don't know I I guess it would be like Well, I would be for the game strictly I imagine but I guess it's uh Yeah, the official novelization It is described As the novel that explains the story of god of war four Okay, thanks um It's uh Okay. Yeah, that is interesting Oh Yeah, and the thing is that could be easy to listen to if mamiya is doing all of it. Yeah That's really cool. Uh I'm curious if they're they're doing one for Ragnarok Oh, and it looks like they've done novelizations for the other games too Like god of war one and two I'll have to look into that Uh fringy you mentioned not liking mcu nano helmets. What do you think of dead spaces folding helmets? I why you prefer Uh is it clocks helmet? um That's because the nano tech ones they're they're so bad now They're like it's just like a washes over their face, right? It's not well It's like it doesn't exist Whereas the way that it works with like is it clocks is in the first game He just keeps it on like the whole time I think I think one of the big things is it takes it off. It doesn't fold away Well, I think the big thing that helps is that the utility never strikes me as being lost when the helmet gets removed Like in dead space too Because you see it like as part of uh Because it like descends into like this forward facing like mounts sort of uh, just bobbas chest Yeah, yeah, yeah that better looking thing. Yeah, I what I what I want is like the mechanical parts I think that's the thing that's missing for me the nano tech helmets are like They're like magic, right? They just sort of like zoom and then they're gone whereas like I way prefer what they used to do with Iron Man's helmet Where it would just pop up the the the mask But like the helmet would still be on um, I think it's yeah, I uh I think one of the big things I don't like about the nano tech helmet is I know why it's happening Which is we got to see the actors face specifically we got to see the celebrity actors face um, meanwhile You know who gives a fuck about the costume that was very intentionally designed with the helmet and all It would likely be fine if it was only the one character in in this entire world that had that form that animation of the But uh, yeah The idea that we have all of these characters from all these different worlds and literal parts of the universe and Parts of earth should be enough to be like they should be really different and cool and how they're different But um, yeah, they're all like the same everybody does because even jane She had like a nano tech helmet even though it was meant to be like a magical space Like yeah, that's what i'm saying like he has guardians the fucking black panthers The ant man people like everyone has the same thing. It's like how did that happen? Yeah And also a big thing as well is that um Isaac clark doesn't take his helmet down Like what he's in fucking danger Like you know like he he always keeps the helmet on and just speaks with the helmet on when he's like in danger And it usually comes down when he's very securely out of danger In dead space three for all that game's faults There is a sequence after they crash on tau valantis where his helmet malfunctions And he can't lift the cab the helmet cover his head And that's a sequence where you have to stay close to the heat or else you'll freeze to death Right because tau valantis was super duper cold all this fuck Yeah, um, I uh, I really like the profile of the helmet like I love the fucking three the three glowing It's so great classic. It's fantastic. And I think What I like is that the game recognizes that that's really cool And it doesn't it that's a part that was intentional in terms of the design for the character And it's not discarded to throw a face Like a really iconic sort of uh like an actor's face at you Whereas a lot of the comic book characters had their costumes in their helmets very intentionally designed To create a look and we don't care Um and and I think the thing that annoys me as well is that they had healthy compromises that they got rid of Ant-Man used to have the thing where it would pop up and show his face But like the helmet was still on but now it's full nano tech as well Because I guess they thought that we needed to see his hair too see his ears We need to see his ears because it was the same with tony right like tony used to have it So that it was the visor that popped up and now everything Get get we get rid of everything I like those designs and I don't like that they're getting discarded for what I would consider to be kind of a shallow reason Um as opposed to what you even saw like in the ramy spider-man films Where usually it would be like towards the end of the battle the the the mask gets destroyed And so you still have the mask there, but you can see like toby maguire's eyes Um or you know or at least at the very least giving us a reason to get rid of the mask like in spider-man 2 when Um that the sparks like burn up is writing is fundamentally give us a reason for why we're seeing the stuff We're seeing instead of just throwing it at us for fun season Explain why we're seeing what you want me to remember He would he would be a great example right in black panther Like that's that's an awesome costume like the black panther costume is is really cool Um and in civil war he gets to wear it all the time often doesn't take off the mask the only time he takes it off is like when he gets arrested and then when he uh Is gonna talk to zemo. Um meanwhile and of course there's a reason for that right because he's indestructible You know more or less when he's inside of it And then in black panther because they needed to contrive a reason for him to like have a stupid nanotech helmet They make his whole suit like nanotech to where it becomes vulnerable to like malfunction When uh, it gets hit by like these beams that destabilize Vibranium and so it's like oh So like in order to have your nanotech helmet. It's just worse The suit is functionally worse It can malfunction in a way that the old suit couldn't and the reason why they did it is because they wanted nanotech helmets um Yeah, I just I just think it's really lame. Um, and that's the difference between mcu nanotech helmets and isa clark's uh cool helmet That's still mechanical Anyway, yeah, how did you use dr. Strange to uh, I guess I don't know what what would st stand for Hmm So so you talk about dr. Strange Then dt what They mentioned dr. Strange. I'm wondering if there's dt might be related to dr. Strange in some way st like a st. Oh st Well, either way, I'll read the whole thing see if we can make sense of it. How did you use ds2? Meaning I assumed dr. Strange to st in your vids and avoid copyright If you're just referring to clips keep it under six seconds, but oh, I didn't use soundtrack in mine. I don't think My whole video. I don't think I had any audio beyond my voice. I think Um, but if you're trying to avoid getting hit by copyright for the soundtracks You need to make it so the the sound is just lower than your voice for sabacking tracks If you want to play it on your own then well that I mean at that point it just should be monetized for them, right? If you had soundtrack If there's no like Transformational vibe check that you're trying to run at the same time then I guess uh Can't prevent copyright at that point as part of uh, what will have happened already is I won't wait for our ragnarok efap I'm very happy. I can play the songs at least in part and then we can talk about them Instead of having to deal with like the entire video gets monetized by that songs rights holder the weird world we live in where Video game soundtracks are at a whim of whatever we want most of the time But I appreciate that You know, I can I can show it off recommend it and then we can talk about what we think is working and not working about it Um, have have you all ever seen rocket man? It's a fantastic musical biopic About elton john starring taren edgerton one of my favorite movies ever I've not seen that no heard about it Well, maybe we'll see it at some point Just a reminder that one punch man efap would be great Yeah, that's not exactly an impossibility to be honest. Yeah, I'll say it doesn't Um, I love the giant rabbits in the tally tubby show Why wouldn't you love giant rabbits, right? They keep Well, there's nothing hellish about them In the lore In the lore the deep tally tubby lore full tally Full tally tubbies break down when it would be cool for us to do maybe one episode of tally tubbies on efap tv It would be yeah something absurdly, you know absurd like that that you treat very seriously in terms of your critique of it Mola would the sun baby be the de facto god for the different tribes? Would the sun baby in fact be raw the sun god could be Could be raw And it's it's that's the form raw takes in the world of the tally tubbies like this this Is potential they're gonna have to look into it Yeah personification of you know elements of the natural world in terms of you know, all I know is it's powerful Pretty common. Absolutely. Yeah F's out for my homo boy Pinky winky. Yeah, I know man. I hope he's I hope he's all right, you know He's not he died of hypothermia. No the pinky winky. Not the actor. I mean, oh, yeah the character. Yeah Who we really care about that is characters. Okay Fun fact they had to do reshoots because the bunnies were screwing on camera That's what happens when you want a bunch of rabbits, you know, they That why didn't they get like old females or something? I don't know Hawkeye was the best thing in phase four. No way home is number two and surprisingly Miss marvel is three because it was a decent main character the best new characters with kate bishop john walker and kamala khan miss marvel I also like the dog strange. What if episode Uh, I didn't that's the one I didn't see and I haven't seen hawkeye Um, we haven't seen this marvel either, right? Yeah, so I think we've missed like all the things that might actually be the best stuff of phase four But it's uh, well didn't wasn't there like that apparently miss marvel had like time travel in it Right, of course it does I mean the character might still be worthwhile. Yeah. Yeah, maybe yeah, maybe Oh, yeah, I mean, well, like I said, I watched the first episode of hawkeye and I wasn't I wasn't impressed. Um Yeah, not a huge fan, but I guess the hawkeye probably stood a bit of chance because it's lower variables than a lot of other Phase four projects Fabric of reality probably isn't at risk or something like that If you forced michael weldron to write us a film with just dog strange trapped in a Concrete room with no escape with like one of the character and an oxygen supply I do wonder if he could come up with what he would come up with actually I think it would be terrible even then Like we got zero variables other than people talking michael. Can you do it? He's like, hmm Well, then again the toilet episode and rick and morty was pretty close to just two people talking wasn't it? That wasn't a great episode Well, yeah, because it was mainly because it was rick that had some high variables, of course Because rick and morty, but it was mainly about rick talking to that guy. Remember Like the guy who sat in his toilet I can't remember what that episode we should we should To see Uh was just watching the god of war stream with metal and just wanted to mention that I think the reason people were unsatisfied with Hades design is because he is usually the most relaxed of the three brothers We'll see but that's the problem, isn't it? Like he what what is Again, I think ragnarok is just another uh thing that's Blackpilling me so to speak on adaptation. I'm just like Everybody like so many people shot on thornodeon before they were even given a chance and so many of those people are now like Man thornodeon were fucking great And I'm just like, yeah, we gotta Gotta be careful, right? Gotta gotta give him a chance. Gotta get let him free. You gotta give mario a chance. Okay Give mario a chance. I know I gotta give it a chance. I know It's gonna be terrible, but give it a chance. The thing is like I didn't have it's so weird because like I was familiar with Hades in a couple of versions Include in the um like disney animated one before I played god of war 3 Flash 2 slash 1 in 1. He was a fucking demon monster that just went Like that was that was Hades like a weird visiony thing. It was like, okay 2 He looks like the the god of war 3 one, but just a little bit different whatever Um, and he's like this, you know metal Gothic hell god person that's covered in spikes and blood and flash and he's voiced by Mr. Crabs Naturally, um, and and I thought it was fucking fantastic and if someone was like, yeah, but Hades should be Palmer or Hades should be more Like well kept not like this this weird flashy monster thing. I should know man Let him let him try their own thing especially with mythology being one of the oldest things we can even adapt Like I'm surprised. We're still hanging on to everything has to be a particular way when hate to say it A person saying this how familiar are you with this mythology? I wonder Well, I guess it's the question, right? What is the actual authority for a lot of these mythologies when there are contradicting accounts For all of them. Yeah Like broad strokes, sure, but even in the case of some mythologies even then it's like, who knows I'm a chance and that's the thing by the way, I'm totally fine with people being like, I don't like it I don't like it. Just don't tell me it's badly done. All right Or you can just give better arguments than it's badly done because it's different Um, unless of course it was to share continuity. That's usually the way we go about it We have to make this clear with the moving on from tlj people like how can you come in about luke? or equal You could like if you remade the ot and you made luke evil You could do that and it could actually be good. It's just that I would warn them if they were making that I'd be like you understand people really don't want to see luke skywalker being the villain, right? You know that Yeah, you're not actually I promise you you're not nearly as clever as you think you are Because it's gonna be a uphill fight like if they were genuine They're like no, I have a really meaningful story to tell us like all right. It's just all right No wonder in fall, you know people are gonna be very non receptive to this um Which is the same thing you could have said to ryan johnson, but then he just fumbled it anyway, so Don't mind I Cry drags Oh cry Uh, I will rise sags. Why nags pry crags That's interesting observation. Yeah, something for me to consider. I'll take that into account for the future Screw it. Hi fringy long man and hello rags. Hello Hey, hello. Hello Are we getting a house of the dragon efap? Yes Yes, you are He's done ragnarok next and I'm fucking struggling to get all the ragnarok prep done in time. There's so much Um, I'm excited so much to talk about Yeah, what was I want to talk about? Rags if you like rimwild type games, I recommend stranded alien dawn. It's been good fun also. Hi rags Hello, let me uh look that up now door Stranded alien dawn Oh, okay, here it is stranded alien dawn. Very positive Okay interesting Kratos raving new world. This is jesus Is kratos versus balda to electric boogaloo kind of jesus ain't gonna be able to be killed It's just the the gap between fighting him again is going to be longer than he can be killed but You coming back? Yeah, I assume it's the The balls they would have if jesus showed up in one of these games My son kratos must understand your path Build you must turn the other cheek That just to hear kratos be like who are you? I jesus my son, turn the other cheek. I will not No That is retarded That's what kratos says Uh game on steam fight of gods band in places Fight of gods? Why because it's probably got like mohammed in it. Oh, that could be why yeah probably why Uh, I missed one hour of this because I was watching efab 184 screen crush vid about why wakanda Wakanda why wander did nothing wrong? I'll finish it later, but I don't know how you guys maintain your sanity. You guys are the best. Cheers Well, thank you We too have been numbed After many years of terrible arguments a few things Hummified Mola crew rags. Hi. Hello. Hello. Hi. Hey We just finished watching all the videos in moola started back in february and today. I'm caught up. This has been such a journey Wow, I'm very glad to hear that you're caught up. Hopefully you had plenty of fun Absolutely It's been quite a journey I love the community you guys cultivated love the discussions the jokes and even the tisms efab movies and gartic phone are some of my favorites Rock on my n-wording ewoks be good to everybody. Lasbonious bag raggins Ouch very nice of you to say it is very nice Uh, we need to do more gartic phone everyone's the wireless. We are good enough time I was watching some of the highlights all those playing the um champed up that shit is I will admit gartic phone doesn't replace champed up because Champed up is special The one thing champed up has is when you come up with this absolutely retarded creature for fighting You see someone's idea for what would be the perfect enemy for that thing And then so you get this double wabby of the thing being funny But also the mindset of the person who made it. It's like yes pretty hilarious It's legitimately a nice dynamic The clever game we should uh, you know, we should play that again sometime I agree which of evie's evolution would you have as a pet? Oh, I can't remember the wall, uh, I need to look it up. Which one's the safest probably vaporion right compared to having a fire one and an electric one Uh, well, there's umbrion, right that one's just like darkness or something. That's evie evolution Umbrion is pretty neat. It'd be funny like the other ones set things on fire electrocute But the other like umbrion you just it just stares at you and you sleep and you're like Jolteon would probably I feel like if you pet you pet jolteon you're gonna get a jolt Isn't jolteon Is it it's jolteon. What'd I say jolteon? Oh, I don't know why I said that I was for a second. I was like, yeah, I remember Yeah, because it's uh, vaporion jolteon uh flareon umbrion leafy on Uh still be on which I'm guessing is a new one. Uh, because it's fairy type, which I don't remember being a type And then glyceon and esparon. I I like umbrion. I uh, I like I like that one Uh, sorry evie evolution. Oh, yeah All right Why is it defaulting to why is it going to yahoo? It did that thing again? No Oh See a search engine default browser google chrome is your default browser search engine Google yeah Chrome search, what about that? Yeah, it's doing that. It's defaulting to yahoo. Why is it doing that? I don't want that shit. That's weird. I gotta Yo long man Just watched you lay the smack down on that arrogant jik hindal if you can first I was actually reading that I was like wait spoilers. I was like no way both of you. Yeah, we're fine Uh, if you could really look into people I'd love to see a meat cthulhu that'll fix his wagon real good That'll be yeah, that's not gonna end up good for him. I think his head might explode, but yeah fun Um, I was gonna then talk about maybe that scene but I was like, you know what that'll be talked about extensively soon enough The middle of empire strikes back has pacing issues agree or disagree The beginning of empire strikes back has pacing issues. Is that what they said the middle? um Nah, I don't think so. I don't think so the pace changes Because you you wrap up the hoth battle, but I don't think that yeah, there's not a Yeah, I don't think there's an blast in with that movie. Well, we don't even actually we stop pretty chill We establish the the state of affairs then the battle happens and it's pretty hectic I'm back down slow build up then hectic again and then it ends seems like a pretty normal way to pace a movie Um, obviously the big problem with pacing is that We don't we don't end up without this is gonna come up with god of war. What is the argument beyond? I thought this was slow then someone else says why I didn't Right, and then you kind of know where it doesn't yeah, there's not a lot of places It can go I've had this issue for so long pacing as an argument is complicated It's usually just relying on whether or not people agree And you can say that that applies to everything. It's like not really when I point out something doesn't make sense You don't agree. It's like you have to do more than that Otherwise the argument is over in my favor all vice versa. You know the argument is that way Meanwhile, if I say pacing slow, you say pacing's fast Now what happens third party? I guess like I don't know I suppose the equivalent of that might be I say something doesn't make sense and you say it does But then that can still develop into I have to establish You know x is x and y and then you have to tell me why it's not So it just seems like there's more Ways to actually get to the bottom of whether or not there's an inconsistency as opposed to pacing but You know ironwood everybody seems to be saying ironwood is slow Is that enough to say ironwood is too slow? Suppose that'll be the I'm having a hard time when writing about gameplay. What is the standard you guys usually apply? Does it change on genre tips on wording it high rags? Hello The standard on gameplay that's It's very broad generally you want to keep in mind things like ludonarrative dissonance and balance Uh, but it's it's a really broad question Fundamentally find out what the mechanics are They work consistently and then what happens when they start to overlap And what do they do when they push to little minutes on the hardest difficulties? They're reliable Uh, I find that it's gonna be it's is always a controversial subject to be like well This first person shooter Has 10 mechanics And we're talking about like throwing grenades or activating special ability or being able to run on walls Meanwhile, this one only has the five mechanics. It's like so the 10's better than it's like whoa See how how well all of it works in context, right? Uh, this is the best way we can try and put everything on the level playing field of some kind Like how does chess do against god or ragnarok? It's like that seems retarded Like I don't know how you compare them, but the closest you're gonna get is by saying I guess how well do they achieve what they're trying to achieve within context of their own sets of rules um But I understand it's complicated any problem is you just asked us like essentially how do you write about writing? Because it's like this enormous Thing that that could encompass all kinds of different approaches. I would say Check out my game reviews or fringes or rags and you'll get a good sense of what we tend to focus on First or last and how we break them down Uh, this video is online of all three of us doing that, right? Yeah Yeah A friend has only one or two toes on one foot and none on the other He walks and runs fine. He uses extra socks to make up for the space and issues All right. Yeah, I suppose you can cram those in there and get them to fit in decently. Yeah They go for any annihilated All right They amputate toes to replace fingers all the time they do Oh I really I'm obvious. I'm assuming it's not Literal like it must be some kind of like tips of fingers and they can replace them with Lots of the ends of toes. Maybe I don't know You can't like if you replace. What are your fingers with a toe? That's That's gonna be a different things that they're uh They're different sizes, right? I I think Yeah, I figured that they wouldn't I mean that they're totally different like they're different appendages Hey fringy. Are you a kiwi also high racks? Hello No, that's New Zealand In the books golem falls on his own Frodo curses him earlier with the ring to kill himself if he tries to steal it the theory is the ring destroyed itself that way Frodo curses him earlier with the ring to kill himself if he tries to steal it that's something Frodo can do That also that's a bit rough not gonna lie If you get this ring you have to kill yourself Like, you know, I mean does that sound like a Frodo thing to do? Maybe it is wit's end I I've never known that I don't know how that's never come up because I I never read Lord the Rings So I don't know how anyone never mentioned that Frodo cursed golem to kill himself Does that familiar to you guys Golem to kill himself He didn't cause golem to kill himself. No I mean, I've been talking about this for the past like a few minutes. I don't know why That's nothing to say. I'm not I haven't got any familiarity So does Frodo curses golem earlier with the ring to kill himself if he tries to steal it It's been so long since I've read the books I can't remember what happens in them in that sort of specific element In fact, I've probably forgotten a lot from the books just because it's been so long Just I don't know that statement out of context sounds really weird to me Uh, what's the best superpower you could choose for monetary gains saving or making applies It can't be creation power and it can't be portals either I assume they mean it can't be teleporting then as well Uh for making money Yeah, I mean the thing is that lots Of any power really like most powers will be able to be monetized quite well as for which one would be the best I feel like mind control is a pretty clear one Well, I don't know if they count but like, uh, what's their name from uh, deadpool normal luck All right domino. Yeah, just take your power go to a casino. I guess and then yeah, you just win infinitely or uh, Obviously, you're gonna be careful though. Probably another one Like I can see a lot of utility to that Yeah, there you go. I think that would work out Um, but obviously you can fly you could probably just get you know I feel like there's a lot of ways that you can make money doing that Misfits they even go to like the guy with immortality. You could just kill himself On tv and get paid loads for it Yeah Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. I don't remember that episode Five minutes of google makes me an expert for sure But apparently new zealand has the haka and hawaii has the ha ha ha ha ha. They're both similar but different All right, okay Why the spam hate it's delicious. Also. Hi doggo Hello The spam hate I don't think I did we hate I don't I don't think I've hated on spam, but it's not generally regarded as something that's like preferable. I don't think Yeah, no one never no one's ever like Wow spam. That's delicious. I love to get me some spam Uh, also any good chance of a long fap of the live-action scooby-doo films also high-fring daddy g Hey Those could be funny. Could be. Yeah, I'm not sure of the chances of that happening, but yeah America's australians fought a war against birds Me an american totally not fighting a war against wild hogs in texas as I kill them for a helicopter with an m249 saw Oh, I didn't know that was going on Wars are happening all over the world. I guess. Yes. Thanks. Mr. Guzman best weekend ever Okay. All right, sure enough Uh get peter do what he wanted to do for the 20th anniversary including all of the extra footage release new cuts In and on theaters and 4k get all the money I assume they're talking about if uh, you want to make the most money with the lord rings. Ip right now Oh, yeah We release and involve the stuff that peter jackson talked about that got cut. It's like that's probably a good way to go. Yeah Yeah, that's yeah, straight wall the day random film talk long video on how rings of power is bad All right, fair enough Yes, louis said in a lecture series on literature that the best marker for good stories is rereadability I often think of that with current trash Well, it's uh, it feels like it's along the lines of something that is uh, I think is true, which is that You know good work good creations endure and have a legacy and and uh and will be rewatched or reread or replayed Meanwhile, you know compared to right now where it feels like a lot of stuff is disposable Comes out Yeah, people talk about it a lot while it's out But nobody's like man, you know what I want to rewatch like shang chi and the legend of the 10 rings Like I don't know that that's ever gonna happen Like just unprompted it's meanwhile people still go back to watch like the Incredibles or shrek or um Or saving private ryan, you know Yeah, like stories that are just absolutely laden with detail and uh deliberate sort of Choices in in whatever You'll uh, when you rewatch you'll start to notice more that that they necessarily, you know create knowing you will not necessarily catch it Um, and so when you rewatch they're like, yeah, you got that now Yeah, and then so this is value that's coming out I'd easily use ragnarok it's an example, right? But when you play both the games and you just enjoy the story for what happened in it and the very overt payoffs And then you just think about and you're like Man good thing, you know in 2018 kratos learned The stop getting in the way of his own son's development and that you know his his own story His own history can act as a lesson rather than this this ball and chain that's like almost dragging down both their lives You know, he used his trauma As a way of moving on from it instead of allowing it as it was to cause extra damage And you're like, oh, that's that's interesting. You're like, oh, yeah, and freya, you know He kind of killed her own son By trying to protect him Like, oh, yeah, that's that's kind of thus. She's she's she's kratos. Oh my god. She just she just didn't get to make that You know, oh my god, and then you're like Uh, the the info that game is point about the influence parents have over their children Then you play ragnarok and you're like, man, it sucks that You know, magdi and modi had such a shit dad Why is thaw such a horrible person that you get all the scenes of his father with him and you're like, oh All slotting in Yeah, so B consumption is definitely an element that is indicative of quality But I will say there are some stories that I don't relish zooming ever again Because of what they're about or what they did, uh I don't know that. I don't know when I'll ever again watch the father Uh So it's a rough movie to watch and it's very specific things and it makes this point incredibly well. It's like Uh There's a couple people I know like that's an experience they don't necessarily want to have again, but they cherish it sort of thing Yeah, but I guess at the very least that's a film you would be compelled to talk about again meaningfully Yes, and this it turns in it the honor rewatch you'll pick up So it still kind of applies Uh, there's an official elden ring manga, which is pure comedy centric. It's honestly your type of humor. Check it out It's only 10 chapters um I might do I guess how come I've never heard of that from anything else So what I thought that would have Could come up a bit but it sounds neat Elden ring manga and it's official as well. So it came out of uh from soft or they licensed it I guess but And it's and it's just comedy that's All these all these interesting facts about it, you know Um, but yes, that's it. That's all of our rings of power superchats and the superchats that came in while we were talking about it Um, that's not it for uh our catch up in total though It's not a surprise. We're still working on efap 200. Those will just be released all together once they're done um And well when this is out Whenever that may be other episodes will be out. So, you know what? There's no point in even saying what's coming or what isn't on the way or whatever because I I don't even know at this point I'm just glad That we're able to hang out With you at home listening right now. Oh, you know what? Maybe at work. Or you know what? Maybe travel somewhere Yeah, that's right. We get a lot of messages from people saying that it helps get through uh work And again, we're very very grateful for every super chat that we get. That's why we read them all It's uh, thank you very much for those Um, I hope that I hope that yours was answered. Well And so thank you all for listening to efap number one This and that that's gonna be it for us for now. That's the one that's the one Hope you hope you had fun and uh, well Good night. Good morning. Good. Yeah. Good night everybody. Yeah. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. See you later