 has replaced the CNIB library website. I don't know how familiar you are with CNIBs to change, but we're in the middle of some pretty big changes. The first was the change to library service. It started about five years ago and has been completed fairly recently. It's an arm of CNIB library, so the accessible, what we now call accessible publishing. The record studio and the Braille production departments, those still exist and we are still producing material for the collection. But the distribution of materials is done through public libraries and that's being done through something called CNIB, which is the Center for Equitable Library Access. I don't know if you go to the CNIB library website, for example, you will be pushed to the library website. And I don't have a lot of information for you. I'm in terms of registering people for the online and how that's done. But if you're ever free to ask me if I can't answer it, I will pass on to one of my colleagues who has more information about that. Now I'm also in the process of sort of fashioning off rehabilitation services. As we did with the library service, we're producing provincial federal governments to ensure that moving forward such as prevention services, orientation and mobility service, all the basic rehab services will be covered through the medal rather than having to refer clients to CNIB, which is charity, to get these very basic services. So this has been done, and like the library service, it'll process over the next couple of years of getting that organized. But what we're moving towards, and the reason that my title is sort of in flux right now, is that with CNIB library no longer existing and with our direct contact with clients being in CELA, there's a very different role that I'm taking in terms of literacy for CNIB registered clients. And I'm going to be moving from the library to the GTA office, so I will still be developing, promoting and running many national programs and resources. But I will also have the opportunity, moving forward, to work directly with clients in the Greater Toronto area, sort of as a model for other offices in terms of, because we have the ability here to run some exciting programs, to establish those hopes that we'll be able to roll those out in different communities across the country. So I believe my new title is going to be Program Lead Literacy. This is all in development as we speak. I'm going to close PowerPoint for now. And I'm going to go up the homepage for alt-lit. Now I hope this isn't the first time that you're hearing or seeing about this website. It is. I'm going to give you a general overview. So this is rolled down to the very bottom. This is a CNIB website. It was developed at a time when we weren't sure what the future of CNIB Library was going to be, so we branded it completely separately. The URL is alt-lit.ca. So, literally, you might not realize it was a CNIB resource, but it is a CNIB resource. It is a literacy website for kids and teens with vision loss and their families. Some of you may remember something called the Children's Discovery Portal. This replaces that. A lot of the content has been moved over, but of course we've added additional content as well. So across the top of the page, you see there are options to enlarge the text. There's an option to change the contrast, and all of the content can be much different. The hand navigation, just to the homepage, and then specifically the TD Summer Reading Club, the book for everyone, the Braille Creative Writing Contest, and games, raise the read-a-source, more read-out, and air. Now, the main homepage has on it. It's labeled as such, but the very top, what we call widget, is actually a news page. What would hear will change, depending on what you want to sort of announce. We've used this section before to announce the winners of the Braille Writing Contest. We've also announced an app that came out called Bolliland for teaching kids of silver and just for using iPods, and we featured that in this section. Right now, we're profiling a series of videos that we've used. We've just sent out a lot of copies of the read-a-source kit, so we want people to have access to something like this as soon as they come to the website. So, Bolliland's sort of news widget is a new book section. So, these two sections, the News and the New Books section, are only found on the homepage. The New Book section just features a couple of quirks. We could profile a book in Braille, an e-book, and then it was originally envisioned at the NIV Library website. This website is all about books, so there is also the option to go directly to a page which tells families exactly what resources are available and how to get their hands on different types. I'm going to go back to the home page. Now, if you scroll down the home page, the read-a-source content is the same content that's shown on the left navigation. It spells out a bit more detail about each of these things that you can go through to. So, the TD Summer Reading Club tells innocents or two what you've got to find on that page. And it has a link as well in that widget. I'm going to be talking about, as I mentioned in the agenda, sort of two types of content. I'm going to be talking first about readers, and then I'll be talking about programs that pretty much covers the two types of content that you'll find on the Webite. The first resource I'm going to talk about is Books for Everyone. So, I'm going to go through that page. This is a good place to point parents to if they are just beginning to think about alternate formats. They don't really understand the different options that are available. We try to spell out, in a further sense, the different options that their child has to read. We talk a lot about public libraries, and that kids with the law belong in public libraries and that they should get a public library card. This is, of course, even more now that they cannot get access to CNIB books unless they have a public library card and unless their public library is a Mozilla. So, we encourage everyone with a public library card. We give tips for what the things they can expect to find at a public library. The fact that public libraries have more than just books. They have programs. They have story times. They have special events. They run clubs for teens. They have social stuff and cultural stuff that they can take advantage of as well. And specifically about sort of advocacy that they do when they go into a public library. So, it is also working with public library staff to make them aware that they have a new group of kids coming in, potentially, that they need to make sure that they're offering formats that are accessible. But also the onus is also on the family to ask for what they need to talk to library staff if a program that they're trying to attend isn't working for them, to talk to them and explain what's not working. It's a bit of a learning curve for everyone. The public staff that I've dealt with are very much on board with this. They want to make sure that their programs are inclusive, but they are a little bit nervous about what that means and how to deliver that. So, we've encouraged kids, teens, families, teachers to work with the public library staff to make sure that the programs are accessible for everyone. Now, every public library is different. Some public libraries have accessible workstations. Some have budgets for that sort of equipment if they know that there's a demand. So, part of it also is even if the programs are working for a family, if the family can communicate to the library staff that they're doing a good job, that they're more educated, then the public library staff in turn can go to their library board and say, look, we have a demand for this. We have more talking books. We have more technology. People are coming in and asking for this and using it. So, that's the outside of it as well. This page also talks about something called Educator Access, which is something that CELA offers. And this, I believe, is kind of a key issue than having them have the responsibility of getting books for a project, for example. You can download that book sort of, you know, sort of walk through the process of downloading the books so that they get what they need in order to complete the schoolwork. And, well, let's have a look at that page actually. I believe that in this case would need to be the one that has a public library card. But in case you can go through and what the requirements are in terms of the registration form, this is a program, I think it's been operating for less than a year. They're still doing webs to introduce it. You can see there are a couple that are not over on the page. So, it's listed in making this program a success. So, if you have any difficulty figuring out how to access it, get in touch with CELA and they will walk you through it, I'm sure. Because CELA is fairly new. Probably still have the expectation that the CELA will be producing books that they're getting or coming from CNIB. In fact, they're actually being delivered through CELA. So, we're just being able to transition for them in terms of how we describe the books that they're actually using. With CELA, you can also get access to a reason called Bookshare. And in fact, CELA is with Boyer. And I think it's somewhere between $50 and $100 a year, I think. And I believe they automatically renew it as long as you're a CELA member. So, that's definitely something that you want to take advantage of. This is a video that we'll play that sort of talks you through what additional resources are available at Bookshare. And then of course, getting directly to the books. This is obviously the only way of getting to the books. You can go directly to the CELA library catalog, but just to break out some of the popular authors and categories. The most recent books that have been added to the CELA collection. There is also CELA for Contains page on CELA Library.ca. Now, CELA deals with kids with any disability. So, their resources may not specifically be useful for families of kids, but they include those resources along with other resources. So, they would have that defined like ability online. But then they would also have the International Dislavia Association, Learning Disabilities Online, all of that additional information. Going back, back, back. There are some on this page explaining this direct to bear for both iOS and Android. And then at the very bottom of this very long page about books, there are other sources, and these are sites that are not CNIB. Sites, but either your public school library or directly through a website. There are, StoryNori has free audio stories for kids. There are additional ones that have monthly subscription fees like Audible. Just to make sure that parents, families, and kids are aware of all of the many different resources that are available to them. Okay. Sorry about that. That is books for everyone. And then there are three sources I want to talk about, fun and games. There are some accessible games. One was developed sort of in-house, which is Dreadnaught, and this is a development of Battleship. And then there are three that we have that are developed by a company called Sonokids. And one is sound shiroku. So you're basically on a grid of four to four, you're trying to do different sets of sounds. So for example, if there are animal sounds, then you're going to want to make sure that the only the cow moving once in a line across. And once in the configuration of four. It works the same as sonoku, but it's with all audio. And then there's sort of a fun thing down at the bottom, which is called Remixer. And it's just different audio clips that you can arrange your own composition. And we have a memory game. And all with audio sounds. So different animals that you try to do. You put different spots on the page and it will reveal an animal and then you try and reveal the same animal in a different position on the page. And if you don't find it, you just keep trying until you find it. And then a link to more accessible games. These are some of you may be familiar with. Now I would say at this point, if you are an expert in accessible games, I'm not. If you are and you know of a site that I should be featuring on this page or other pages, if you see anything of a particularly good resource, please let me know. Because as you can see, there's a lot of content here. And I'm an expert on all of these areas, so it's difficult to ensure that I've got exactly everything right. And I'm happy to accept your suggestions. Now the last resource that I want to talk about is more stuff. As I mentioned at the outset, this is where we sort of put everything that isn't really in anywhere else. But we want to make sure that parents are aware of it. So this page is mostly for parents, which is not rather than for kids. So a link to our address page, which I'll pull up in just a second. Online courses for learning Braille. Resources. Privacy Canada. National Braille Press. Videos featured on this page. And these are just sort of testimonials. See who happened to be an NIV client. Again, our family and educators, if I've missed some, please let me know. I'm happy to add in. I think you bring my attention. Where to buy products and books. Learned a lot of technologies. And online resources for education, employment, education. This includes everything from printer files for Braille objects. I can point clients to public libraries, many of which have maker spaces where you can use a 3D printer. You just need to pay for your own materials. The printer files. Existing objects are available for free. In many cases. One feature Wonder Baby, Canadian Blind Sports. Vanities. CNI scholarships. They just. Okay. Now does this this page does mention Pinterest. I'm going to pull up our Pinterest page. And a couple of other spots too. And I'm going to go directly. So we have two pages. We have. For kids with vision loss. Is the page and then we also have French sources. In cases. Material. Because it's very visual. I'm not sure about the accessibility of Pinterest, but it is a very visual resource. And in any cases. It can be. You know that there are resources on the English page. Which are we relevant to a family that. So. Bit of a. Area there. Here we just feature things that we come across. I don't know how familiar you are with Pinterest. Follow. Their literacy. Vision loss type boards. And if they pin something that we think would be. Interesting. To our clients. Will pay. They do the same with us. I have a number of followers who if I come across something. On a website. Had to pin it. They follow up and. And pin it subsequently to their board. Different apps. Different. I came across this video. The. Video. Just a couple of weeks ago. It's excellent. It has. Unfortunately no narration. I think it's. It's not an English resource actually. It was. So it just has. Music. And then it. Flipping pages. But. If you see the. The. They are demoing. And. It knows. So. Quiet. Book that. That people. To have a talk. To have experience of reading. Really great ideas on Pinterest. Okay. Now. Okay. Back to alt-lips. I'm going to talk about programs now. Halfway through. First. I'm going to talk about is the TD summer reading club. Now. If you. Are. With. The. N. I. B. Has. Offered summer reading clubs. Say. Ten years. It changed a lot. We used to have. Our own summer reading club. And. You'd. Invite to join. We would send them a kit. And then all of the activities were either. On the phone. Or through children's discovery portal. We funding from. For years ago. To begin to align our program with theirs. And. Year. Or. Say. It was fully integrated. The year for this this year was fully integrated in 2015. We still at the point where we were. Finding. Materials. Kit materials. So. Club materials to give out a little notebook in the libraries. For example. Last year we were still sending. That. Real. Directly. To see an ID client. And. Them. You go to your public library to use this material. Because that's where all the fun stuff is happening. This year. What we instead. With. Was we put those materials accessible versions. Of those. Club. Into. Into the public libraries. To every. The public library that was offering the D.D. summer reading club. And then. Sent our client. A postcard. That said. Your public library. My reading club. Asks an accessible notebook book. Could read books and audio e-text or Braille. If you need help. With any of the activities that the libraries are running. For the. Library stuff. That is prepared down now. That's basically. Our involvement with the T.D. summer reading club. We produce the. Accessible versions of the. Club meals. Which is. A. Large print notebook. And it's the same materials in. A. Braille. CD. And it's available in every branch of the public library. That runs the T.D. Summer reading club. It's available for. That need it. To. Promoting directly to our clients. Through this card that we sent them. Actually. Had an article published in. Abilities. Abilities magazine as well. Which talked about. Some reading fun. And the T.D. Summer reading club as. A very accessible program. For. The T.D. Summer reading club. As. A very accessible program. Encourage families. To. Visit their public library. At the same time is working with the public libraries. I'm just clicking through to the. T.D. Summer reading club page. And as you can see, they have lots of information. On the national website for the T.D. Summer reading club. Have links directly to the. Graph files. They have links to the. And three. Of the notebook. Talk about. How kids can get. That are part of the T.D. Summer reading club. Fila. Nels. SQLA. So. We're. With public libraries to make sure that. They are equipped to. Off. Accessible. Service that we're. Leading our. Our clients to expect. Summer reading club. Now I want to talk about the. Creative writing. Contest. A little break. And I'm going to. Let you listen to an audio clip. And this was my introduction to the. For the. Creative writing contest presentation. At. The conference. Enough. Are you wearing a headset. Because you were in a headset. We. Not be able to hear it at all. Because it's. Your. Do any start. Over. To expect. Summer reading club. Do any start. Over. Yeah. We can't hear it. I'm afraid at all. Oh. Well. It'll be a. Okay. We don't need to. About a minute long. I urge you to. Show you again. Where you'll find that. The. Creative writing contest page. Going. It's. Kind of interesting. Because. I. For a lot of years. I've been doing. I think the creative writing contest has been running. For over 20 years. And I've been doing it. Since the beginning. So it was interesting because I had the opportunity. To sort of. Look back over the years. And talk about a few of the kids. Who. Participated. When. And what they are doing now. And. Is interesting because after I. They. Interpretation. And the kid. Got up. To read their stories and poems. We had. Two of the. Two of the winners came to us from Calgary. In fact. I had. A T. I come up to me and say. You need to make that introduction. And. Available. Because parents. Who are. With. You know. Is it really that important to know Braille. To really push my child to succeed. Parents need to hear that. So I thought well. I went to the recording studio. And. Again. And. It's available there. I. Make it. If you can. To. To encourage. Kids and families. To. Persist. In their. In their Braille. Journey. This page. When the. Contest results are available. Is very interesting. Because. We. Feature. Photographs of the winners. We have. Any. User. Online. Now. Aim. And. Recorded. As they usually do. In. Sections. Of the. Parents. And. About 17 minutes. Into. I think at a. 25 minute. Presentation. They have. Three or four minutes. Section. About. The Braille. Presentation. With. Some of the kids reading. And. Here we actually have. The. The opportunity to have. The program. And. Company. From. Am I. Come in and. Do. Induce with the kids in our recording studio and I believe. That is due to be broadcast in December. We'll update that when it's available. Of course. Looking forward to next year. We have creative writing tips. And the. Contest. Rules. And. Information about. And the entry form. Are always on this page as well. Okay. Let's. Talk. About resource. Last week. I put in the mail. 1300. Redisaurus kids. Exactly how many went to. Alberta. But. 0 to 6. Who. C. And I. Be. The one. They were registered. I think. For. Mid. Of September. Of their. Of course. As this was our. Send mail out. Previously we sent out this much smaller number of kids. Obviously those. Those families won't be getting. A second kit. But. Just that these are. On the way. To. Families. In. Alberta. So. In the kit. Some of you have probably. Had a chance to go through this. There are. Changes. From last year. Or from the. The first mail out that we did. Basically the same. It is a. Sort of. Pre-sized. Carat case. Bright red. It has. It is branded with. My. Redisaurus kit. Next. Bright graphic of. A. Redisaurus. Which is a. Dinosaur. And. Metrically. Place. Braille. On each of the. 1300 bags. We had braille. Everything that we could add braille to. So it's on the bag. It's. On the. Door. It's on. Every. That. It's on. The. The ruler. It's on everything. The. Main pieces. Of the. Kits. Are the. Dinosaur. And. The. Main pieces. Of the. Kits. Are the. Dinosaur. And. The. People. Those. Pieces. You. We're not lucky enough to get a full kit. Or. Your family. Loves it. And they. Want. To. Make sure the parents are aware of. How. To. Do. Every time. When. Child is visiting. Download the family guide right from the website. They can download. Not all pages obviously, but they can. Download. The. Printages of the activity books. I'm going to open these up, but I'm going to. I have one. And I'll flip through and give you some of the highlights. So the very first page of the family guide. We've got a note to parents because we know parents are very. Busy. And. Probably overwhelmed with a lot of infusion. So we've told them. That. Are. To. You. Keep themselves. They shall make use of it. With. Ex-family. They can send it to daycare. They can send it to preschool. They can. Give. Bound friends might have more time. And more. Leave. To. Some of the tips. We talk about. A lot of content that's on the outlet. So we talk about different formats for reading. We talk about how reading. To a child with vision loss. Is. Different. You need to describe the pictures. You need to make sure they have real life experiences. To compare to. What they're about in the books. This was developed. With. The. Help of a focus group that we had. Of parents and early intervention specialist. Another rehab specialist. Across the country. Talk about. Chilling books. We talk about. Making. The. Variant. Fun. We have a section about. Adapting and making books. How to introduce. To. And. Talk about. Nibs. On resource. Which is all it. And we talk about. Public libraries. So. Been pieces of everything that's on the website. And of course we encourage people. To do the website. To get information. The. Book. Has. As I mentioned both. Print pages. Which. Sort of. Work. In. Call. Pages. So we have. And then we give tips. How. You. Might use. To. And then we give tips. How you. Might use these. This is. An activity book. Not in the sense that you give it to a child. And walk away. It's an activity. Book. For. And your child. So. The print pages are for the parents. To. Cages with the letters into squares. And use them as flashcards. Cut. The page into strips. So that your child can practice counting. And begin to understand numbers. So there are alphabet pages. Number of pages. In tactile. There are some. Shades. Pages. That show the progression from shapes. To more complex diagrams. And. Is the activity book. Now at the top of the page. And you can see the picture here. There's a child using the. One of the pages. There's a leather stuff in this picture. There's a minifier. There's a ruler. There's a. A donor. That says mine is blank. I'm a resource. That they can. Feel and hang on their door. There's wiki sticks. They're on Braille. Some bracelets that have. Braille on them. That say. Braille is fun. And they glow dark. And. Again. We. We point them to our. Pinto more. And. Books for example. Now. Just where I spent out the reader source kit. We did a scramble. I'm going to go back to the home page. They have a bit of a scramble to. Video that I mentioned, which is DIY tactile books. We actually produced. Three or four videos. And. I'm going to go back to the home page. I'm going to go back to the home page. I'm going to go back to the home page. Three or four videos. Afternoon. I'm going to play this one for you. And the other ones. I'll let you look at yourself. To give the parents. You know, mentioned in the family. You can. Maybe. Book. You know, if you're crafty. But telling parents that is one thing. Showing them how simple it can be in others. So that was the reasoning behind the. The video. And we scrambled to get that. On to show that. When the kids arrive in the home. And they go to this page. That'll be the first thing that they see. Cross fingers that this is going to work. For us. You guys have music. I'm afraid we can't hear anything. Because you're using an asset. It's probably not going to work. Okay. What about if I turn the captions on? Yeah. None of the captions are exactly accurate. But you can stop it there. You get a general idea. If you want to. If you want to look after. Feel free. But I want to close off. And at least some time for discussion and questions. Whoops. So I mentioned there are. Here for different videos. Along the line. And. Hopefully that will generate. Some Tristan actually. Producing some some handmade books. I have some plans for. Shops possibly. In the GA. We get a. Some corporate volunteers actually. Who came and spent the day with us. We. Gave an introduction to literacy. And we spent. Making some very basic tactile books. I think we. Seventy of them. And. Was. Put as samples into some of. The resource kits. So. The. Get those regular kits will actually. See. It really it's just it's sandpaper and felt. I can do that. I have some ideas for. How we might move that forward. Maybe. Partying. Families with volunteers that. Are. Really. And. Really meaningful. And. Books for them. To pull up is. The share page. So this is a bit of a. Placeholder for now. We're. Moving forward. Whether we're going to have. Message boards for parents. We're not sure. What would be especially useful. I know. That sort of thing. Already. This. Through different. Family. Connective sort of thing. And we don't want to duplicate that. Want to make sure that. We're. Needs of. Of. Seeing all the clients and. And supporting you guys. In. In what you need. And. To that end I just. Thought I would. Open it for the last few minutes and. And. Ask you had any. Videos for. Programs. Resources. Or projects that we should undertake. I'm. Not sure how this works. Are people going to type questions. Is a question we do encourage people and they absolutely. Can about. Almost our whole group. It looks like. My access so somebody wants to. Put up their hand or grab the microphone. They certainly can. They. Also throw in the chat window but. We start with Susan because she says. She has a question. Well. But. How can we. As. Each of the visually impaired. Copy kit so that we. Can. Also share it and have it as a resource. For our. School. Right. So. Sorry 1300. I think the remaining. 200 that are still on site here. Are going to be used sort of. Over the course of the next year. As. New kid line up. Or. With CNIB. I know that when we did the first mail out. In. 2014. We'd. Send out kit to the. The intervention specialist in. Or family and youth workers in. Either CNIB offices. So they. They would probably still have copies there. Really going to depend on. I know that we probably have some. Wrong answers so. Kids coming back to us and whether we end up with. A. Plus. That we can distribute I'm not sure. I. Sent. Out there and I can't really promise. That we're going to. Have a lot more available for. The end of like we want to. Prioritize getting them into the hands of families. And then. Sort of working at it. Way. Encourage families to take them. You know when they're. Or. You know make available when they're having a visit. From. We have professional. We've had questions. From public libraries who would like to have them. Just. Were. Kind of. Stretched. And. Not into business of. Supplying. That. And. Directly to families at this point anyway. Okay. Yeah. We'll do that. A little pause. We'll wait for a moment to see if anybody else wants to. Grab the. Microphone. Which hand up. How many people do we have on the. Whether. You know. 15 or 15 because. You have come in dropped off. Okay. We were ready. A lot of stuff. Really. In terms of. In terms of the eyes in Alberta there might be a. Maybe. Many more than 20,000. So. Three quarters of our. Teachers. Come in on the. Webinar. Which is good because it's also a holiday for some. Some boards. So some people are. Have a. A fall. A. Fall break right now. Right. Right. Can I just ask. We're. Aware of the outlet resource I know. It's a bit. With the branding because it's. Specifically branded as CNIB so it's a lot of. Even with the N. I. Be a lot of people are. A little kicked about it. Anybody else wanted to respond. I'll be truthful. We. Like. Susan and I. And so. We're. Happy. To hear about it. Because I mean talk about it. We did a. A traveling. Little big clinic. Yes. And so. We're happy. A traveling little big clinic yesterday. And we were talking a little bit about. We surely certainly were talking about. And. And CNIB. But. Unfortunately now. We'll switch. We'll definitely switch. Our German. To reflect that. So. It looks like. And I'm getting up reading in the. In the chat box. Calgary. Not so much either. So. No. I think. I think the answer is. No. Universally. Okay. Okay. And. I hope so. We're going to. Met. If we can. With. Using Google Analytics. To see what sort of traffic. Gets. In there. The one piece I didn't mention that we've. Added to the. The. Time around is. The. Little. Magnet. And I probably. Spare ones of those that I can send to you guys. A magnet that specifically. Promote. And it breaks into two pieces so you can use the outside pieces. Sort of a. Photo frame on your refrigerator. It's magnetic. And then the. Inside piece. Also promote. So. So. So. You know. Keep the outside piece and give the inside piece to their babysitter. The grandparent or. To spread the message you know. A lot of resources on there that. Underutilize. Yeah. It looks. Excellent. We'll do that. A few responses just so you know. Being saying that a few people have. The. Pinterest site. You have explored the site a little bit. But I think that this was a good session today. And I think. It will definitely drive a lot of people. To the site. Here at Alberta and included. Excellent. Excellent. And Karen I think with that we don't have any further. Questions. Okay. Well there's my you see my e-mail. Address. So. If you have questions afterwards please get in touch. With me. And. Yeah check out the website. And. Somebody doesn't get that written down properly. Or something along those lines. I have Karen's e-mail as well. So if you know myself or Susan or Roy. We'll make sure we get that. To. Thank you so much Karen again. You shared a lot of new information for us. And. I just stated in those creative meeting contests. And the. The summer reading program. But. I love the fact that it's. With the library. So our. Our. Vision. Laws are now. Just. Like everybody else. The kids in the neighborhood. And. Using the same resources. But only in an accessible format. So. Really exciting. Good for you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Really exciting. Good for you guys. Good. Good. Thank you so much. For the opportunity. Well thank you Karen. And thanks to everybody who came. We really appreciate it. As always. Anybody has any questions about it. Or. Any upcoming sessions. Or anything along those lines. Don't be afraid to drop us a lot. Okay. It's everybody. I'll give everybody a minute or so. And then I'll be shutting the system down. Thank you so much.