 All meeting to order. Uh, the. December 5th meeting of the popular design review committee. We have one application tonight. I am going to let Meredith. Review remote meeting procedures and process. Hello, Patty. Hi, Larry. All right. So, um, some of this presentation I'm going to give is really more for anybody who might be watching this media. Meeting over Orca media because we live stream it. Um, but some of it will be helpful for you as well. All right. So for anyone viewing this meeting tonight over Orca media, you can participate in tonight's design review committee meeting via the zoom platform. Um, you can see this by. Um, you'll be able to see what's going on on your screen and we'll be able to see you and you can talk. Another option is to dial this phone number. And when prompted for the meeting ID. Punch in this number. And that way you'll be able to hear everything over your phone as well as, um, participate talk as questions. If you want to. If anyone has problems accessing the phone number. If anyone has any questions, please email me at mcrandall at Montpelier hyphen vt.org. I will be monitoring my email throughout tonight's meeting. In case someone's trying to get in. Um, we do ask that, uh, anyone attending, keep your microphone on mute. Um, if you're not speaking, this will reduce background noise. Uh, Patty, Larry, you probably don't have to worry about that too much because you're the only ones on. On remotely tonight. Um, note also that the zoom chat function should only be used for troubleshooting of logistics questions. Anything substantive about applications or other items on tonight's agenda. Um, should be, um, Spoken. Um, If something is necessary, it could be potentially emailed to me, but really we prefer stuff. Everything spoken. Um, Turning on your video is optional. I think that's all we have to talk about for tonight for procedures. Um, in the event the public is unable to access tonight's meeting and I would find this out over my email. Then the meeting would need to continue to a time and place certain. And this back over to our chair. Thank you for reading. I'm sorry. I need to get a motion to approve the agenda. I'll move to approve the agenda. This is Martha. Uh, and all second. This has been. Uh-huh. Thank you. I'll in favor. Martha. Ben. Eric. Thank you. All in favor. Martha. Eric. The chair has no comments except for apologizing for being late. That was because of crystals. One application tonight, 27th state street. And I assume the Patricia's is. Making the presentation correct. I'm right here right here with Larry. Yeah, so yeah, if you could just summarize your application. And then if you want me to, I can share images on the screen. Everybody here has, has seen the packet you submitted, but if there's something in detail you want to talk about, I can pull it up on the screen for people. I don't think it's, we don't think it's very complicated. The sign is slightly smaller than what Alavitas was. And it's made it's beautiful. It's wood. It's protected. It was on our, our last business, which was in Osterville, Massachusetts and pre COVID. And then COVID we closed it and the death of my dad, we closed the business. So we're recreating the business here, which is where Larry was born and raised and we were raised our kids. So we're back and Steve Everett is our landlord in that building. And we just want permission to put the sign back up. And we'll be attaching the sign to the building using the same attachments that Alavita used, which are those Chrome. There's six stands standoff vaults. I think there's six of them or eight, six. We'll be using six of them. Two on two on each corner and two in the middle. Of course, with your permission, that is. You have the colors. And again, the size. I guess the question is any. Are there any concerns? I don't have a concern, Patty. I just want to know what, what kind of businesses are. Oh, sure. Thank you for asking. What are, what are business card reads is a collection of fine gifts are. Accessories focus on natural fibers, fair trade, artists and wears and the love of socks. So in Mendocino, California, we had basically a sock store. But this is a little more than that. We have Larry's a wood turner. And so. So I don't know if you're all familiar with Alavita. So we've taken down a little bit of the yellow wall, put up some gray walls and some slat wall and we're bringing, we have, we just think socks are soft and easy. And they're not, don't have an agenda in any way. And that is what we're going to do in there. Okay. Thank you for asking though. And our hope is, ooh, this is a big hope. I am, I currently. Manage the gift shop at the hospital. And I'm just heading out because I want to train. The incoming person. But the hope is, is that we can be open the week before Christmas. For the fun of it also, we share that doorway with of course. Yeah, with Julia and, and yeah, with capital grounds and they're bringing Santa Claus in. With Montpelier live and the chamber, I think it's on the 18th or 19th. I'm not having my calendar in front of me. So we were hoping ever so hopeful that we would open on the 17th, 18th, we're working hard to make that happen. Okay. The sign is approximately the same size. So one of us up there. It's smaller. It's probably as you, you have the measurements from Adrian, I think her sign was probably 20 inches tall, maybe 21 hours is 15. Or this was maybe seven feet long ours is six. This is what's going on. Yeah, it's a little bit smaller. And especially the height, like you said. Yeah. It's actually hanging in our house here. If you want Larry to take the computer and you can see it in person. We were going to come over tonight with it. But it was my idea because I love the sign, but Larry, this is funny. Larry took a little tumble at the car wash this morning. Come on, I'm going to tell you, because it's icy, be careful everybody. He got out of the truck and then he couldn't stand back up. So he's resting a little bit. So we wanted to see you all in person, but that didn't happen tonight. And we live right here off of Berry street on Downing street. So we're looking forward to walking to work. But any about the sign. So please, any other questions? No. Anybody, any question? No. Okay, I'm going to go through. That's sign criteria. The size, location. Design color lighting. You're not doing any lighting, right? No, no external lighting. I will all exterior signs and design of you are related to speak battle with the buildings and structures of the site and design. That's acceptable. Signing show respect to original sign, place and assign bands. Acceptable. Building has multiple tenants. That's not applicable. Because it is, but it's not for this. Fine. Is recommended. Senate over building entries acceptable. The sign shall. Minimize damage to care defining features acceptable. It makes me building fashion to be in the mortar mortar joints. Not applicable. Design color and topography show your pluck to start presence where appropriate and shall be appropriate scale for the existing building acceptable. Sign support structures. Not applicable. You're not doing any of that. Lighting fixtures for signs and for say, as the start building shall not conflict, not applicable. Lighting fixtures. Not applicable. No lighting fixtures. No. No, I don't think anybody have any recommendations. No. All in favor. This is Martha. I say yes. Ben says yes. Eric says yes. Miranda. All you gotta do is work with Meredith. Okay. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. So Eric is filling out what we call our recommendation form. And he'll record the tonight's vote on that and sign off on it. Because they haven't recommended any changes. We'll be able to issue the permit. Basically as soon as we can plug it into the software. So probably tomorrow or the next day at the latest. Would you like us to. We can pick it up. We're right around the corner. Okay. So we'll email you when that's ready and you'll get a copy of this recommendation sheet. You'll get the official permit. You'll also get a blue permit notice card that you'll want to put up in the window at the business. That is a notice to anybody nearby that you've been granted this permit and that there's a 15 day appeal period. For the sign. So the only thing you do is sort of at your own risk, but people would have had to take part sort of in the process, probably to appeal. And there's nobody here. So you're, you're not, are you suggesting we wait 15 days to put it up or no, but, but yeah, I think you can go right. If somebody is offended, we would take it down. Obviously. Somebody they not just offended, they'd have to appeal file, file a notice of appeal with me that would appeal the permit to the development review board. I haven't had that happen for a sign since I've been here and I've been here for more than four years. Okay. So that's, that's great. Thank you all. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Good luck with your business. Oh, thank you. I hope you all come in. Thank you. All right. Thank you again. Have a nice night. Bye. Happy holidays. Thank you. You too. Yeah. So anybody want to make a motion on the minutes or 1121? I, this is Martha. I'll move to accept the minutes the way they're written. For November 21. I just want to make sure I was here. Yes. It was. Oh yeah. I was. I'll second that motion. Do I hear a motion to approve? Let me ask. Yeah. All in favor. Yes. Martha says yes. Ben says yes. It's our proof. Any other business that anybody wants. Except for attendance and the calendar and the next meeting. Yep. So next meeting. December 19th. I don't have any applications right now, but. We, the deadline for that is this Friday. So we'll see. Okay. What we get. I think it's Friday. And then yes, you all should have the 2023 calendar. If anybody needs an emailed copy, let me know. We only have one meeting in January. Okay. And on that, I moved to adjourn. Thanks everybody. I'm going to declare adjournment. You're not going to let me second. No, because I could, if I can open the window. Meeting I can share closer. All right. That's how you run HPC. All right. We'll see you in the next meeting. Okay.