 It's a breakfast and plus TV Africa we're looking at the second conversation I mean quickly as much as we can the issue of the security threats that's been put out according to the reports of the DSS and now the Department of State Services DSS raised the alarm over a ploy by suspected criminal gangs to forge an alliance amongst themselves with a view to launching attacks on critical infrastructure and other frequent public places during and after the public holidays and festive celebrations. Now according to the reports the objectives of this planned attack is to achieve some self-serving interest as well as cost fear among citizenry as much as patrons and owners expected to be very conscious at public places and not to be weary as regards this development. The service is also saying it's committed to ensuring that the disruptions of disruption pattern and violence that's been planned will not continue as they look at partnering with other security agencies to ensure that necessary drills are embraced in order to ensure public peace and also ensure that the peace of the public is not jeopardized. We do have Danish Samarkari joining the conversation this morning his former DSS director. Good morning. Yes good morning so let's leave this now let's start the conversation on this note do you think that this is politically motivated I mean we have a report saying that self-serving interest and they have linked it to 2015 the period where soft targets public spaces gatherings will be targeted and this is shortly after you have a lot of people saying you know Jonathan is going to they're asking him to become part of you know the presidential race and maybe the APC have some intentions of imbibing so do you think that this is politically motivated? Well everything is on the table you cannot say whether it's political or it's not political everything is on the table when it comes to terror I think the whole idea is to create fear and to you know make the people terrorize the people so whether it is politically motivated or religiously motivated you know is something on the table that the security agencies and the people of Nigeria have to handle. All right Dennis it is really disturbing that the DSS is putting out this particular threat to Nigerians he says they're trying to take us back to the 2015 era where we had you know markets being bombed and suicide bombers and all what not happening specifically in the north but let's talk about the repercussion and what we need to do because it is really mind boggling that we have issues of banditry and insurgency still plaguing us now what do we do with these warnings as some average citizens and how do we even begin to protect ourselves because our leaders right now they are not really completely interested in what's going on right now the talk generally is about 2023 election consensus and all of that so how do we protect ourselves these are one and seven issues so what do we do as Nigerians really you know our citizens should understand one thing protection starts with you personal protection is number one so it is not a matter of sitting down or waiting for the security agencies to come and do something you call 911 or you call 2-1-1 and then they come no the protection of yourself starts with you and the protection will even where the agencies will come into play will be where you have seen something or you hear something you know you say something to the security agencies and then they will help so security agencies are not magicians normally and that's why these are lots of you give it out if you have places of relaxation if you are if you have a church if you have a mosque you should be able to start from now it is not on the Saturday right now where you will start to protect those you know structures those facilities you know if you have a hotel you start from now and you should be on 24 hours a lot that's what the DSS is telling you right now so people should start looking at their security plans their security processes to make sure that you know or necessary all to what situations don't happen and then of course everybody is encouraged to be situationally aware do what you are do what is happening around you but let's also get to this other part of the conversation a lot of people are saying what's the difference now and some order persons are saying you know the activities or the actions of the DSS should be secretly done and also be secretly executed it's not for public consumption you are from a director what do you make of this approach no no no security agencies the world the world over will always inform their citizens of a threat that they have discovered you know while informing you about that threat they also go ahead to see if they can be that threat in the boat you know so it is not a matter of the security agencies already know about this why they telling us why don't they go and do it of course they can do it and that's what they are doing they will preempt some of them but remember they are not everywhere so for those people who are everywhere when you see something you see something and inform them the police or even the military or DSS then they will swing into action to help out because this security issue is not for security agencies alone it is for every citizen that lives within the border of this country all right we get all of that it is good that the DSS is actually been very proactive announcing this some threats to Nigerians so they can be you know on the alert a good thing you know and it has also asked for Nigerians to provide them with some useful information you know that's another thing providing useful information but how certain can Nigerians be that in as much as they are providing this information they still have their you know anonymity and of course and they are not also on the threat as well when they are doing their own part as you know lower Biden citizens because over time the average Nigerian does not really trust the Nigeria police you know and some of these are sister agencies yes I agree with you there's a trust deficit which I think the police especially they're working on it seriously and then of course like I always advise people you don't just go and go to DPO's office and then go to the door there or see a policeman at the gate and tell you tell him that see this is what I heard or what I know you know these are not the people who are going to give that information to when you have any kind of information go and see a city officer go and see the DPO you know if you have chances to see the commissioner go and see him if these people are too far away from you see your local government chairman and this is a link that many of us are forgetting this local government chairman that's why they are there they are supposed to help the people the common people so if you have any information make sure you don't kill it because anything that could happen could happen to your sister or brother or relatives or yourself so if you hear something say something to the rights you know to the appropriate authorities all right I think that that has become you know a phrase for us for security if you see say something say something but we should also act and do something those who should do something should do something and we're talking about you know the police now and everyone involved arrest the specimens let them face you know the wrath of the law thank you so much for being part of the conversation Dennis Markery we do appreciate you all right that's indeed the size of the show for today it has been one one day really you know from politics you know to all of the issues that we raised you know unloved the press to security concerns what Nigerians need to be doing and how proactive our security agencies you know is but we're most rested that you know security is a collaborative effort we all need to play our part having said that we'll return again tomorrow my name is Justin and I am messy if you missed out on any part of the conversation that's all right to follow us on facebook twitter and instagram and do subscribe to 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