 for ensuring that they're at this table with us. We've had some of those during our start, our dialogue. So, you know, those groups that have been around for years and years advocating, we need them accountable here with us. And we need to have the strategy for figuring out how they come here or we go wherever and bring more of them. And I don't see them here. For clarification, and I'm going to turn back to your question of next steps. When you put that on the table for next steps, or am I going to interpret that question next steps for this group and as relative to the document, if you will, let's say once it's sort of, everyone looks at it and so forth. Was it in that context that you're posing that what next steps? Absolutely. Okay, just want us to move to the next one. Will somebody else? First of all, sir, I really commend you and everyone who put this, I think all of us are feeling the same way that we are just so very grateful. And we know that this was a very, very difficult thing for you to do when you're right. There were a lot of people with a lot of experience and know-how and activists that have been around for 40, 50 years. Thank God we have the younger kids, I really wish we had more person here. But I think that what is before us and we are hearing very clearly is that we want to support a follow-up here in a time, of course, we're banking actual, we want to come together and that's a lot of work, that's a major challenge. But I think what we're hearing is that we want to come together that every single one of these groups already addressed some of the hows, what some of the things are that we need to do and in fact some of those things might happen before we even come together again. Because some of us did come in to doing different things. But for now, I think to help you, anyone that can help put the policy paper draft together then we come back up and of course, I think we'll be able to, those are follow-ups. How do we bring in the politicians and this is what we can, how do we proceed? Bringing in the organizations in education and there were 70, seven several organizations that were involved in polling and surveying for the education document that we have here that is put together. I think this is a start-up of a very strong thing tag that doesn't have to include me. I'm just saying, the grassroots already occurred here. Yes, I think we'll not do less than we can do, getting more involved and getting more serious. So that's just a recommendation that perhaps this group can become the start of that thing tag and absolutely bringing in everyone else that we're gonna need. I, go ahead. Mr. McCann, I'm doing, I think we're happy to have you here with the neighborhood, with the co-creators' unions. And if we can be part of this in any way, I think that includes, I think labor is an important part, not just the High Board of both union and non-union, I've been on both sides of the issue and I can tell you the benefits of the organized labor and the bad part of the process of the organized labor. So we can be part of that conversation and offer our input and help in any way we can be free. I want to take on just an added challenge because it's fun that I heard there was a real strong debate from that, it connected back to the idea of next steps. In terms of labor, the debate that's so close that you don't want to mention union with us. And I'll go as far as saying, what is that law in the state, in this state? We're a work state and there's enough studies to show that that's her. You know, a large segment of the population and created and come in 12 and, but there's a good portion of the people I suspect in here that support that as a policy, we're all entitled to that. I'm just saying, there are some areas here for next step, they are long term because we need to have the conversations that we don't have a chance to have among each other. So that aside, but I'd like to treat the next step question, folks have kind of mentioned some points just because of the way my brain works. Like, I want to treat what people suggested as ideas for next step, but I'm kind of suggesting to you as a result of that input on next steps that on the one hand there'll be this document reflecting sort of a broad document around these discussions and this symposium, but I think they'll be like, I'm just thinking out loud about another sort of three pager. It's just a two or three pager that says and reflects those key recommendations for next step, whether a think tank, whether this, whether a stronger organizing and just how we do that. You know what I'm saying? In other words, it's a little more like action oriented that we want to do fairly quick. So right now I'm again, I'm just, I'm like you, I'm trying to absorb, there's a lot there right now. And I really, really appreciate it because I think the question to the first question, who's going to sort of pull it together? And of course, you're all part of the team, you know? You're all part of the team. You know what I'm saying? You're all part of the team. You're all part of the team. You're all part of the team. You're all part of the team. Every time I meet him, I'm down with the organ, you know? Because I can't say enough about the school competition, but I've been involved with academics for 30 years in institutions, as many of you know. In my other life, very few would do what they did in terms of hosting this and not willing to, you know, bring this back together, reconvene. So I don't want to get away without saying that. But, you know, so it was just going to be the three of us, so to speak. And now we've got a few more. And so count on that in terms of us trying to piece together everything. But I'm just not to do away with, get away from the idea of next steps. I think whether it's incorporated within the document or parallel to sending you, these are the sort of three or four major areas for those next steps. And give feedback to folks on those issues. One tip to the timeline, I would strongly suggest that we need a sheet for having a final product by, let's say, next summer. So that we can start preparing for the next legislative session. That gives us a little bit more than a year. It's really not a lot of time. But if we want that document to include the next legislative session, we need to start, we need to have it by, let's say, June, July, July is the latest next year. Yeah. I just want to gauge the possibility of doing something either through a Skype or go to meeting to people avail themselves of that kind of technology. Is that something that we could do fairly quickly and easily? I never know how to do something. You ever eat on a cart? I don't know how to eat on a cart. That's a good answer. But, yeah. You should be able to see through the mic. I can hear you. I'll make it see through the mic. Yeah. I'm serious. Sure. So I want to recognize all the students who are wearing red. And can you stand up to the mic? So here I'm going to go. And thank you so much for... Mr. Sherman, you talked about reconvening. How far along the line can we reconvene? And bring more people. Bring them red and bring them to work. We're serious about putting long-term organizations and addressing this issue. Thank you. We can't do that. It's the shot of the target to the quick, maybe possible answer to when, when I would say to get eight to 12 months. That's not usually exclusive for maybe so smaller groups getting together or some of the next steps. Relative to the sky for something else for that. But talking about physically getting together and doing the work and preparing for that to happen. You know, keep it in mind. This took a year and a half. And I should let you know that we, for everyone in you that's here, there were four others that were invited. Okay? Just keep that in mind. And even where we were able to pick up the tag, you know, for this kind of, for the event at least, for the hotel, for those traveling. And I do want to make the last point, to add itself to our challenges. And that is, what about with, with a friend of yours and I worked on a project two years ago, at least from data, looking from 2000, 2010 census. The area of the state that had the highest population growth of Latinos, and that was 65% over the time, the highest of all what we call economic regions, West Texas, Rio Grande Valley, you know, South Texas, you know, Metroplex, blah, blah, blah, the 11 economic regions of the state. East Texas, part of East Texas had the biggest population growth of Latino. There's no Latino Latino here from Tyler, you know. And, or Dessa, or if you look at West Texas, or Lubbock, and you know that the population and the kids in that school, they're already, majority of the kids in school. So it's just challenges that, I didn't bring it up at all, but, and I think we have the kind of group that is not, who wants to give a parochial to their geographic area, you know, because you're from the Valley, you're from Chico, you're from Sananto, you know. And I know we have shared experience, but the other element, as we go forward, is thinking, you know, and it is long term, about how do we span that, organizing those levels of efforts, and other, so that we are connecting to our other communities across the state. And Juan, to that point, I think Charlotte has some information, because obviously the internet goes everywhere, and we were fortunate to have nowcast record of the Plenary session, some of these sessions, so she can provide some information on that. I was really glad to see a whole bunch of really good friends here, but there are a whole lot of people who also don't know about nowcast essay. We're like public television, or local c-spans on the internet, and we document a lot of things, including this, I joke with the dean sometimes, that we feel a little like media and residents of the College of Public Policy, because we are here so much. But anyway, this video, I'm recording it, it will be a little bit for us to get it up, but we will have it up. And if you haven't been to nowcast, please take one of these and go look us up. Among other things, we have for the election tomorrow in San Antonio, there are eight different candidate forums that we did video of, beginning to end on the mayor's race, and 10 on the city council races. So you can go there and get completely non-partisan. I'm not telling you what to think, I'm giving you the tools to think for yourself. Thank you. Well, we're going to go ahead and vote, and then we'll have the mayor's vote, say, drive home, and that vote, so we're going to do it next. What's your idea?