 Oh, you might know our next guest from The League and the show Black Monday. He also hosts the very popular podcast. How did this get made? It's Paul Shear joining us from the sexiest room we've ever had on the show. For sure. What's up, Paul? Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. I am so excited to be here because for a little bit yesterday as a Clippers fan, I thought I was going to have to come in here with my head hung low for basically for about three quarters and a half. I felt like I would have to come in here and make a lot of excuses, but I'm very happy to be here after that triumphant comeback yesterday. Yeah. Can we start there, by the way, because you grew up in New York. Yes. When you moved to LA, but you don't pick the Lakers. You pick the Clippers. Why? No, you can't. You can't pick the Lakers. It's a bandwagon choice. I came from New York, a huge Knicks fan, but my thought was if I'm going to be here in the LA for a bit, I want to bring my kids to games and I want them to have a team and so I picked the Clippers. They're exciting at that point. And it was like it was a fun kind of new version of the Clippers. And yeah, I've been happy ever since. And one of those reasons why is from one of those guys right there in your desk. Lou Will, I mean, come on, one of the best. This hasn't been as a Clippers fan 2018, 2019. That season, this season are my two favorites in recent memory. It's pretty good. Appreciate it. Yeah, this is going to be a fun one. You grew up a Knicks fan. Why not just a Knicks fan? That's tough. Because if I say Knicks fan and live in LA, I got to watch four o'clock games and then what? Like I get excited once a year when my team comes to town. I can't do that. I can't do that to my kids. And my kids actually have a team that can go to multiple games. Like I never liked that kind of thing where it's like you'd see somebody in New York and like, well, we're, you know, we're Minnesota fans. Like, well, yeah, you're not Minnesota. Come on. One of the best parts about one of the best parts about being a Clippers fan is that people yell at me all the time when I'm wearing my Clippers stuff here in Los Angeles in previous seasons. So, you know, you got to it's part of the city. It's part of what you live for. Makes sense. It makes sense. Paul, I know you've been you've been you've been to a ton of Clipper games. I got to ask what's what's your favorite to memory? Oh, man, there is a great game. I feel like two years ago or yeah, like when it was a comeback against the Celtics and it was the first time I think that Clippers have this energy where the stadium it's in LA where everybody is coming into town, right? So whether it is New York or whether it is Boston or Sacramento, it always feels like somebody else's port sometimes. And I remember like Pat Bev getting that crowd to be behind the Clippers on this comeback. Like we we shut up a Boston crowd and that to me was an amazing night just because it felt like the tide shifted. And from there forward, I feel like we've we've kind of stayed a little bit as a Clipper Stadium in that disgusting crypto duck. By the way, do you was the 42 that Lou dropped? Was that a big moment in the family? Did you get seven? Yes, I literally was the reason why you're going to see some of this boudoir back here is because I was running to go get my my Lou Williams stuff. I have it in a closet and I was just getting it out. And I was like, I don't have enough time. I don't have enough time going through everything real quick. So, yeah, no, I mean, that was huge. I mean, there's been so many great things. I mean, the comeback against Golden State, like amazing, like so many great Clippers moments. And I feel like it's all kind of coming together right now, which is really exciting. Paul, besides Lou, who's your favorite Clipper of all time? Oh, my gosh, of all time. You know, look, Lou, like I said, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen was huge for me. I would say like Lou and Pat Bev to me were the guys that I loved watching play. I just love the energy. I felt like the toughest thing for you guys to do, at least from my vantage point was like you guys carried that team. You carried everything about it. You created culture and that to me is so important. Like I love the, you know, the Blake Griffin years and everything like that. But the the time and it was just you two. That was really a special time, a special moment. Amazing. I love the internet. Yeah, you mentioned Blake. He's obviously now post career and during his career as he's dabbling into comedy and stand up and he's legit funny. Oh, I've done shows with Blake. That's what I was going to ask. What kind of stuff have you done? And what do you actually think is it is it is he actually funny or is he just funny because he's Blake Griffin? No, he's actually funny. The first time I did anything with Blake, it was like me, Blake and Deandre Jordan. We were doing a live read. Like we took the script to Space Jam and we put Blake in it instead of Michael Jordan. And then we all cast all the characters around it. And that was a blast. And then Blake has come on like improv shows that I've done at Largo. And and the thing is, I think that you think like, OK, it's it's Blake. It's going to be whatever. But he actually is very funny. So yeah, and I think he cares about being funny. Like, you know, he's not like just doing it on a lark. Yeah, I think I think people say someone's funny, but we have different levels for it. And he actually makes it good. Which I kind of love. I think it's tricky because you have like people like, you know, like like Lou, like loose, you know, you're you make music, right? And I think it's hard when people know you as one thing and then you also do something else. And I feel like you can do it. You can split the difference like you and Dame. And I feel like I don't think there's any other comedians. In the NBA. Like, I think there are a lot of funny players, but no one else trying to do comedy actively, right? No, I don't think so. No, I don't think no. Paul, I played for both the Lakers and the Clippers. So I've experienced firsthand the way that the city treats one Jersey opposed to the other. Even though I think the Lakers are so ingrained in the culture of Los Angeles, what do you think it takes for the Clippers to become that team in LA? You know, for me, I feel like you got to start with the kids. Right? You have to have something to grow up into. And I feel like that's what's going on now. When the when the Clippers and Bomber came in, he started basically financing all these public parks, right? And putting up these Clippers hoops. I feel like that's important. And the kids I know, like when Kawhi came to town and he gave those backpacks to every kid in public school, like I feel like that's the energy that you kind of need. LeBron will always be LeBron. And even though every Laker fan I talk to is like LeBron is not a Laker. I don't understand that mentality, but and I love the Lakers. The Lakers are like the Dallas Cowboys, like they are basketball. Like you can't you can't knock them down, but you can only expect to compete and make it exciting. And I feel like that's what the Clippers have been trying to do. And I think it's working. I won't make any Cowboys jokes right now, because it's too thin for some. It's painful. But it wasn't that long ago. You got in a bit of a Twitter beef with Lakers fans, Shannon Sharp, which is obviously considered the Lord's work where I'm from. Any regrets in that one? Never. How does it even go back and forth? Like that's a tough guy to get in a beef with. It is. It is a tough guy. And it's like it's funny because like he likes to talk. He like, you know, he likes to talk. And I feel like most of my fights on Twitter have been basically around Clippers stuff. So it's fun. I mean, because it doesn't mean anything either. And yeah, I mean, maybe one day I'll go on Club Shea Shea and I'll do a three and a half hour interview and break down all my beefs with everybody in the world. You're going to attack every white comic that ever lived. Well, it's going to be the best three and a half hours ever. Or they did it. They did it. I don't know. I guess a poll not that long ago in the off season talking about who drinks the most in arena. This actually shocked me because the Clippers not only drink the most, they also eat the most. And when I think of L.A., I don't think of eating. But are you shocked by that about your fans? I was because we share a stadium with the Lakers. Are you telling me that they don't drink and eat as much as us? Because whenever I go to a Lakers game, people seem pretty drunk. Yeah. Yeah, I'm shocked by that. I'm surprised not like Detroit, because it was getting wasted watching that team play. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't know we had a culture of drinking. I didn't know you either. I feel like that's not the vibe I get when I play there. Learn that today. No, I mean, I'd also argue too. It's like, you're right. There's not like really a culture of drinking. And it's like, everyone's driving to go to that Staple Center. Like, it's like, you know, you got to come into it. Like that's a very much a car city. I don't like sitting there to have a field day. Yeah, just sit at the parking garage and wait. Good call. Way to help the cops, Chandler. Yeah, Paul. Your Clippers are currently fourth in the West. I was CPG, Kawhi Hardin. The album planned pretty well. Does this team have enough to win a championship this season? I would never say anything that would jinx any opportunity in any way. I'm just enjoying the ride. That's all I want to do. I'm enjoying the ride. Like, look, every team has a potential to do anything, really. But no, I think as a Clippers fan, like I am frightened out of my mind, right? Oh, my God, this is fun. But when will something terrible happen? Like I'm a Jets fan as well. And Aaron's like, everyone's excited about Aaron Rodgers. I'm like, no, I'm not because I know what's going to happen. Something terrible. And that happened when the first five plays of the of the first game. So like I am cautiously optimistic. I'm enjoying everything. And that's all I'm going to say. Like, I know that Shaq was like pushing P.G. to be like, if you want a championship, you guys say it. I'm like, no, because the minute Chuck says that we're going to get a championship, we're going down. Because I got to we got to keep our head low. Just keep on winning games and move forward. Well, listen, I actually like the Clippers coming out of the West this year. I just feel like they're loaded with talent and with that, they're opening their new arena next year. Have you have you been able to see it? Have you been able to tour it? And how excited are you to not finally have a home or your own and not share an arena with the Lakers? I'm very excited. The into I always forget how to pronounce but like the in it, Domer into it, Domer into it. Into it. Yeah, the into it. Dome, I got my seats. I got my season tickets all locked up. And I'm excited that they're doing weird stuff. Like the wall is amazing to me. It's basically all behind one basket. Just it can't be another fan. Yeah, it's great in theory. Yeah, it's like and I think like it's fun to go to these places and just feel like, oh, we're going to try to do something different. And everything I've seen from Bomber, it seems like if you present him two nice options, he's like, yeah, yeah, we'll do them both, you know. So I feel like that whole stadium is going to be pretty magical and exciting. And whenever you get to see a new stadium, it's always kind of cool. I just was in Golden, you know, I just saw a Golden State game last year and that stadium is beautiful to chase the arena. It's great, you know, so I feel like it's exciting whenever you open up a new stadium and hopefully they'll bring some more culture in there. The thing and the thing I'm most excited about as a Clippers fan as an L.A. driver is that apparently Bomber has made some agreement with the Department of Traffic in Los Angeles. So they're going to be opening up lanes to Englewood. So four lanes in and four lanes out and they can be able to control all the stop lights so you don't have any traffic once you get off the highway. That I was like, that's a really fast and a new highway. First of all, whenever you're in L.A., when that's the most exciting thing you've ever heard and you're like, oh, my God. Oh, my gosh, every highway, not just Englewood. I know I really mean, like all we need is Bomber to buy more things. If anyone, if you are a if you are just a place where if you've gone to a Taylor Swift concert, if you've gone to a game or a Rams game, you know, it's just like a nightmare. It's brutal. Yeah. And there's another one in and out. So I feel like this is a good thing. I feel like Bomber understands like it's a commitment asking everybody to go there. You know, but like, let's let's do it. That is like the Dodger game. The Dodger game. I love. I can't do it. I'd rather just sit there and watch them on TV. Yep, because getting out of the world, I have. Yeah, I live kind of near the Dodgers and it's like you feel that traffic. It just is like it just like I feel the energy of it just on my house. Sucking through the never finished in Dodgers game. No, you got to go super early and leave early or go late and leave early. But you can't leave early. You're not going on time. Like, no, you can't do that. I'll say this as a dad, what is makes it all the worse is once you get in your car and your kid's like, I have to go to the bathroom. That's the worst. And you're like, oh, I don't know. I know we're going to be in this car forever forever. If you get out, go back in, go bathroom it back in. Although a lot of trips. Thank you, I don't know. I didn't even curse on this. Now we're going to hold the interview. Chandler has a special contract. There's always that to do what everyone wants. The podcast, how did this get made? Yes, talk about awful movies. But you also had Space Jam on there. I thought Space Jam was supposed to be a good movie. Was I wrong? Yes. What? Do I remember? Terrible. Space Jam is terrible. Culturally, it's great. Like they got great uniforms, go buy those uniforms. But it's a it's a bad. I mean, look, I love MJ, the best, not a great actor. We did that in Chicago. And we had to basically say to people Chicago like, face it. It's not he's not he's not good. This is not good. Bill Murray's funny in it. But I mean, you know, it's weird. It's a weird movie. So you really don't like the new one with LeBron. That was hot garbage. Let me tell you something. Don Cheadle, a friend of mine, my co-star on Black Monday. Space Jam 2, interesting movie. Interesting movie. That's a nice way to put it. I thought Space Jam was good. Maybe it's just like nostalgic. It's our kid. Yeah. If you watch it again as an adult, watch it again as an adult. It's probably horrible. Yeah, that's that's what it is. Like it is fun because it's like, look, as a kid, like you want to watch like Michael Jordan in the movie. But if you sat down and watched it, they, huh, what's going on? And Bugs Bunny. Now we're going to watch it again. My favorite, my favorite joke of the whole movie is he is Michael Jordan in the movie and he is living in like a two bedroom house and like Pasadena. Or like, I'm like, you got to at least show me that this is. I don't really explain baseball. You know, there was rumors that his kid was Eric Gordon in that movie. Do you ever hear that rumor? No. Yes. Yes. I don't know if it was actually Jordan, but they were saying that kid playing. Yeah. There was Eric Gordon. OK, how do we not know that? I don't know. Never research it because it's better if we don't. Let's just take it as theory of my life, Paul. I don't like to research anything. Just go with it. Just get something. The Internet's red. I'm going down the rabbit hole. Yeah. No pun in the air. It looks just like Eric Gordon makes sense. Check it out. So, Paul, a few years ago, you shot a scene for your movie, Daddy's Home, a half time of a Pelicans Lakers game. What was that experience like for you? Well, first of all, it was great and terrible because it's the first time that Kobe had agreed to be in a movie. He said people have used him in movies all the time, but he never agreed to it. And that was the game that he re-injured himself. And that was like the beginning of the end of Kobe. So that was like, I always live with this idea of Kobe going like, I never agreed to do a movie. I'm excited to do this. This would be fun. Immediately he gets injured. And you feel like, oh, I just, I live with that. Like, not guilt because it's not my movie, but it was like, it was a terrible moment and he was so excited to do it. But for me, doing that scene in that Pelicans game was so much fun because no one knew what was going on. We didn't show that there was a movie being filmed. I think people thought that Will Ferrell was a good drunk guy at first. All the sports blogs started running with the story that Will Ferrell was ejected from a Pelicans game for being too drunk because he was supposed to hit a free throw and then in the middle of his free throw, he like hit a cheerleader in the face with a basketball. And we had to do all this kind of creative movement to get a real basketball out of my hands and put a fake one into his hands. And we did all this movement and the first time when that basketball hit that cheerleader's face, you could hear like a pin drop. There's like, no one knew what was going on. And then seeing Will get dragged out, people were confused. The second time we did it, they caught on, but it was amazing. But still, that's crazy that you could even get that far without anyone figuring it out. That's awesome. That's so alive. Well, because you know what? Well, no, this is a New Orleans. Oh, it's a New Orleans. Yeah. So I think what was so fun about it was like, there was an energy to it like where people aren't really paying attention to what's going on in the court during the game. And that's why then all of a sudden they all saw it. They all got shocked. It was great. More pranks of NBA games. That's so good. Paul, this has been a pleasure. Make sure you check out the podcast. How did this get made? And pre-order the book, Joyful Recollections of Trauma. Trauma. Yes, thank you so much. You got a book. Thanks so much, everybody. Thank you so much. I'll be back. We'll run it back in a minute. Run it up, run it back, y'all.