 I'm Pat O'Rourke, the sports editor of the BU News Service. This is pouring out. Alongside me is Alex Hirsch, who is a BU News Service contributor. We're going to talk about a few points over the next few minutes. And I guess the first thing we'll get to, Alex, is Dave Dombarowski, the Red Sox president, saying that there's going to be a big shake-up in the office. There might be a couple of players going. Who do you think might go? Well, I think for certain, one of the names we're going to be hearing a lot of is Hailey Ramirez or Pablo Sandoval. One of those two most likely will be gone. I'm hoping both of them gone. But that might be wishful thinking. But I think what he said was that it's going to be a hard trade, someone that we're not going to want to see go, which I still think Xander Bogart is untouchable. But I think that might mean Mookie Betts or Eddie Rodriguez. They might be headed out the door. Possibly Blake Swyhard as well. I don't know. Who are you thinking? Yeah, I think Swyhard's the one on the list in terms of people that might go. I don't see Ramirez or Sandoval going. I think he understands that their value is very low. They're not going to get very much for him. And I think what they're looking for is they want an ace, they want a big impact player. You're not going to get that for Hailey Ramirez. You're not going to get that for Pablo Sandoval. You've got to trade one of these stud prospects, whether it's Betts, whether it's Swyhard, whether it's Rodriguez, whether it's maybe a couple of kids in the system, like a Rafael Devers or Andrew Reddentendi or Manuel Marco. They may not have that value attached to them just yet. But yeah, I think it's going to be one of their big, big, big-time prospects. I think Mookie Betts and Xander Bogart are the two one-touchables. That's what I'm hoping for. They're going to keep them at any chance possible. Swyhard might go. I don't want Mookie Betts gone. I want Mookie Betts and Xander here. But one of the names that has been linked to us right now, a lot of reports are saying, Roldus Chapman from the Cincinnati Reds, the Closer Day, the Big Flame Thrower. What do you think about him? I'd love to see him in the Red Sox uniform. Yeah, I'm not crazy about it, just because it would be a one-year rental. I don't think he's going to be a free agent after 2016. It's going to take a lot of money to bring him back. And I'm someone who is, me personally, I don't feel that the solution to a bullpen is throwing money at it. This would be essentially what it would be, either throwing money at it and or basically a one-year rental for a Roldus Chapman. And here's the thing with Roldus Chapman. He's 28 years old. He might be maybe declining a little bit. I think his walks per night innings went up last year. His straightouts per night innings went down. His whip was as high as it's ever been in his career. So you're seeing signs of him kind of falling down a bit. I know he has that eater. He throws 100 miles an hour. I think he had the 18 fastest pitches in the major leagues in 2015 where all the Chapman pitches. But it's not something I would do. I'd love to see him in a Sox uniform. I don't care that he's gone after this year. It's just money. I don't think you have to give up the farm as well for him. I don't think you're gonna, I don't think you have to give up Swyhart or Eddie Rodriguez or Xander or Moody Betts. If it's free to any of those guys, forget about it. I don't think you have to give up any of those guys. So I'm willing to give up someone for just a one-year rental for a Roldus Chapman because he's better than any other closer that I think that we could get at this point. And I'm all in for 2016. I'm all in. This is probably David Ortiz most likely his last productive year. I'm all in. Bring a Roldus Chapman in. I've been saying that for a few years now. Yeah, we've been saying that for a few years, but I'm all in on that. He's not the only name in the trade market though in Boston right now. DeMarcus Cousins for the Sacramento Kings. Right now he is having a tough time with George Carl, their head coach, blowing up right now in their faces. A lot of people want DeMarcus Cousins on the Celtics. Should they pull the trigger? Yeah, it's not something I do. What would you have to give up for him? I think that's probably the biggest question I can trade. Well, yeah, that's another question. What do you have? Are you gonna be able to put together a package for DeMarcus Cousins? If you were to put together a package for DeMarcus Cousins, DeMarcus Smart would I think would almost certainly be in it. Sure, why not? You would want to trade DeMarcus Smart, not Marcus Smart in a trade for DeMarcus Cousins. Absolutely, I would trade Marcus Smart for DeMarcus Cousins. DeMarcus Cousins is about 24 years old, I believe. He is one of the best centers in the league and a league that is strapped for young centers. So you trade Marcus Smart, that's fine. Marcus Smart has yet to prove to me, as much as I love the kid, he's yet to prove to me that he is a starting caliber point guard or even shooting guard. He's just got starting caliber point guard defense and shooting guard defense. So yeah, bring on DeMarcus Cousins. If anyone can tame him, I'm pretty confident in Brad Stevens. So yeah, I'll take him any day of the week. Well, the thing is, can you tame him? It's a big, big uncertainty. I don't know if I'd give up. I certainly wouldn't give up Smart for him. I don't know if I'd give any of the other big pieces. I certainly would be hesitant to give up for DeMarcus Cousins for someone who, yes, he's put up big numbers. He's been very good, but he hasn't been consistent. He's been hurt quite a bit and he's never, he's never really won anything. I think it's kind of a direct result of him. Not that these Celtics, they haven't won anything at it. That is true, that's another very good point. From the parquet floor to the football field, Patriots, Giants this week, big, big matchup because the last three times the Patriots have played the Giants, they've lost, including two Super Bowls. Tom Coughlin might have Bill Balacheck's number. What do you think about that? Yeah, and you mentioned the last three losses and Coughlin's five and one against Balacheck. He could be, the only one that Balacheck's ever won, I think they were down, what, 10 or 13 points? Oh, it was week 17 on the season. Was it 38, 35? And they were down 10 or 13 points. But anyway, look, here's the thing with Tom Coughlin. I think people underestimate Tom Coughlin when he's a coach. I think he's a very good coach. I don't know if he's a Hall of Fame coach, but he's definitely in the Hall of Very Good. And yeah, but I think him and Balacheck are very similar guys. They're no nonsense guys. They're Bill Parcell's disciples. So yeah, maybe he does have his number a little bit. But in the three wins that he won, the two Super Bowl games, and the one winning 2011, they were last possession, last possession wins. So the Patriots are leading late into the fourth quarter. So it's not like he's steamrolled him in every game. He's got his number. I think that's for sure. He's got his number. He's five and one against him. No one else has got that type of winning record against Balacheck. So yeah, he's got his number. Tom Coughlin knows how to play the Patriots. The one thing that he has had though on these last three and the last three wins is a pass rush. And that's been the big thing that has been able, they've been able to get Tom Brady off his game, moving around in the pocket, where he wasn't as mobile at times. Tom Brady's a little bit way more elusive now than he was before. So we'll see what happens on Sunday, which you know, leads us to our, the end of the segment, leads us to our prediction. But one last point, that team in 2011, he won, you know, winning two games against that team in 2011. I don't think that was a particularly great team. And I think the key to beating that team was getting Brady off guard. And to his credit, he got Brady off guard in both those wins anyway. Anyways, yep. Leads us to our prediction. Patriots, Giants Sunday 4th, 25th, I believe is the kickoff. What's happening? Well, it's looking like another historic season. And it seems like any historic season the Patriots put together, the Giants always get away. The Giants are in the way. So I'm going to say that Patriots will, will, it'll be a Julian touch, Julian Ellman touchdown at the end of regulation. They'll be down 34, 33. And Stephen Gestalski will miss the, the extra point attempt. And 34, 33 Giants. Okay, Stephen. So you think Gostalski, that's a bull prediction. But then it'll go. Gostalski hasn't missed the extra point all year. It's, it's against. It's a missed one in like years. I don't believe. It's against, it's always against. Then lost, then lost in 2007 when they faced the Giants in the Super Bowl. That's true. All right. My bull prediction, Patriots are going to win this one. Tom Coughlin might have a Belichick's number, but he doesn't have it this week. He, they've got four, their past rush is terrible and they're missing two fingers on that pass rush with JPP. So Patriots win this one, handedly too. I'm going to go 30 to 13. Eli Manning is not going to do anything against this team this week. That about wraps up for an out this week. I'm Alex Harris, alongside Pat O'Rourke, the sports editor for the BU News Service. Make sure you tune in next week for the third episode of 4 and Out, as well as check out our podcast on Tuesdays. We'll be putting that airing that out on BUNewsService.com. Thanks for joining us.