 Okay, here we go, on the Up and Out of Show, we are in a place unknown, we're doing something very fun with the FanDuel family, and apparently here's our guest for the first segment, Gronk everybody! We'll walk on music, what's up guys? How you doing? What's up? We're here in New Jersey, shooting commercial. Yes, hey everyone, we're live. Welcome to my show, this is my team, Alex and Danielle. Yes, hello team, how are you doing? Nice to meet you guys. Nice to meet you. Everyone's here. I don't think we can tell people what exactly we're doing. No, we're just, you know, on the set right now, somewhere on the east coast. Kind of fun. Yes, the best coast I think, the east coast, it's kind of fun, and we're shooting a commercial, we can say that. You look pretty dapper. Yes, thank you. They just dressed me up, which was great. I just sit down in the chair, they don't put my pants on for me though, but once I put my pants on and I put my shirt on, and they put the jacket on for me, and I just sit there, they do my hair, put a little bit of makeup on, I tell them never too much makeup. Never too much. Just like a couple dabs, and then they make you look good, and then I'm ready to go. You're ready to go. So we're shooting something for Fanjul, of course. We've got a lot of fun going on at the NBA, there's a playing game tonight, there's baseball that started, we're going to get into a little bit of that, and you've been to the derby, I've never been to, do you have any advice for me? No, we don't have like a Tom Brady police escort, but what's the way to go? I mean that is the best advice, just get that police escort, just so you can get around or else it's going to take one hour just to get into the arena, or what are horse racing arenas called? Are they called arenas? Yeah, I did have a horse, it actually ran in the Belmont before, but we're going to talk about that one, we get closer to the Kentucky Derby, but yeah, the Kentucky Derby, I would just say be ready for a good time, be ready for a big cluster, everyone's on top of each other, everyone's in the stands, wherever you are standing up, if you're in a suite, it's just a cluster of people just on top of people, and get ready to bet, it makes it a lot more fun, it makes the race that much more interesting. Make sure to put a bet on the line, bet responsibly, that's very important, don't put your whole bank account on the line on your check that week, just make a nice responsible bet, and it makes the race that much better. How much did you bet on the derby when you went? You know, I didn't even bet at the derby. You didn't? Money's an appropriate gronkaman, I mean, I mean, you're right, I would say I should have made a bet, that's why I didn't have as good of a time that I could have had, I would have had the best time ever if I made a bet. Like what, Walker did? Yeah, exactly, everyone else I made a bet, they were all into it, I was kind of there with Julian, with Danny, we were just going crazy, you know, drinking a lot of beers, sweating it all out when we got the practice that following Monday, Coach Belchick was like, I saw you guys up there, yeah, he's like, oh, and then we're running routes, sweating all over the place, he's like, get that booze out of you guys. And yeah, he does say that, it was great. Weird. And I was like, watch this route. Yeah, and you did it. Yeah, but make sure you bet, make sure you bet on the horse and it just makes it that much better. We'll get into your horse that you had ownership of, I don't know if you still do, we'll get into that next week, there's NFL storylines going on now, Odell signs big deal, 13 million something bonus, he's 18 million worth up to that for one year with Baltimore. When that deal went through, what do you think? I was actually very surprised that he went to Baltimore. It was like, you know, a home run that came out of nowhere. Like no one, everyone, I was very surprised. I feel like everyone was surprised that everyone was talking about the Jets or going to Buffalo or just possibly going back to the Giants. And all of a sudden, boom, he went, he went to Baltimore. The title to truth, I think that was the best play as well. Once it happened, you know, I kind of studied that and kind of, you know, I went back and thought about the whole process and everything and what a fit that is. I believe, like I said, Lamar Jackson is going to be staying in Baltimore. He needs a number one wide receiver. They got a couple good wide receivers, but they don't have a number one. So, well, Dell is going to shine right from the beginning. I think the money is very fair as well. There's top players getting 30 million dollars. Got 11, the top wide receiver, he's getting 18. Yes. He didn't play last year. Yeah, but I think it's fair. It's Odell. I mean, he's going to have a great year. He's been working hard. He had a great year before that. That's why having a little bit of Mount in the Sennos is also very, is a very good deal for both sides. But I think he's going to go out. He's going to perform. And I think it's a great fitting for the City of Baltimore. And also, I'm getting a little crazy. I just shot, so I'm a little on top of my game right now. I'm, my brain is turning right now. Tell me also, all right. And it's a great fitting for the City of Baltimore and for the Baltimore Ravens organization and for Lamar Jackson. Does this mean Lamar is going to show up? Because they seem their attest stand still with the deal. He wants the guaranteed money. But they said, you know what? We don't know what's going on here, but we're going to bring you the wide receiver that you want and deserve. And true number one, Rashad Bateman there. They might even draft another guy. They had the 22nd pick in the first round. They might take a Zay flowers at Jordan Addison, something like that, adding more wide receivers to try to make Lamar happy. You know this game. You know the business side of it. Does this make you feel better if you're a Ravens fan in the city with the Fitty about Lamar showing up and playing this year and beyond? Yeah. I believe that the Baltimore Ravens fans should feel a lot better about it that Lamar Jackson will show up. I mean, Odell and Lamar, they've been posing pictures of them on FaceTime talking to each other and everything. They were at Liv the other. Yes, and Liv the other night. I mean, they're going, they're turning up on a Sunday. That's what they do. So I'm sure that Lamar will be back. I don't think you should worry about it. I don't think the Baltimore Ravens fans should worry about it. He's going to be back as a Raven. And they're going to have an excellent year, I feel. I have Chandler Parsons on the show here in a little bit. NBA guy, he was telling this great story about Kobe and about a check at a club and how much the bill was in his $22,000 something. What is the highest club bill you've ever seen with your actual eyes or wherever else? All right, well, the highest club bill I ever, I've ever had, which I thought was out of control. It was like two hours and it was at Access in Vegas one night. It was $10,000. $10,000 for two hours? Yes, for like two, three hours there. That's low, it's not that big. I mean, that was like nine years ago as well. So that's actually a lot of money like nine years ago, but also what you were talking about when Kobe was probably out, that was even probably longer than me and that was 22 grand. It gets expensive going out, doing the nightlife. So that's why I started hosting the parties. Is that right? You started hosting the parties for that reason and now Kelsey has this thing going on too. We're going to get to Kelsey in a little bit, but I do want to talk about this. You were saying you're surprised to see Odell go to Baltimore. I was surprised that yesterday I saw that you told TMZ that you're done. Like the doors now? Yes, yes, yes, I told them I'm done, done. You've told everyone. Happily retired. Yeah, I'm done, done. I do have to retire, but the door is, we had talked about this little window. It's over. I mean, I would just say, I would just say that like, it's like deadbolt at the door and like there's someone just pounding at the door and like the chance of someone breaking the door down, like you got to have like the incredible hawk come through to break that door down in order to open it up. But if the marvel came through, they could get it, the store came by. They would have to come by. Yeah, Thor would have to come by. So I don't know the chance of that happening. So did something happen in the last couple of months where you feel more happy in your retirement? Happens to be a couple of commercials, you know, acting a little bit on the commercials. I'm a commercial actor, you know, remembering some lines. It's been just fun doing that. Like doing that type of stuff. You know what else is going to be fun this weekend, right? You're going to Arizona. It's you and the great Chris Gronkowski. You guys are coaching or doing what for the spring game? Yes, we're coaching. So I'm going to be coaching one of the teams because they split it up like A team, B team or red and blue team because they're facing each other when it's when it's college games. Well, let's listen to Chris. Let's listen to Chris explain what's going to happen. Chris, take it away. So what should the loser of this game have to do? Brother Rob and I are going back to Arizona. We're coaching the spring game and there's got to be something on the line. So we just got off a call with TMZ and Rob suggested that the loser had to chug 15 waters. You got any other better ideas? Comment below. 15 waters. What do you make of that? Yes. Is that really your idea? Yes, it was my idea because that's what we used to do back in college. You know, you get the water bomb and you put the water in it and then you pound it down just to make sure you're super hydrated and it gets you hydrated really, really quick. It gets you more hydrated, faster and more quality than an actual IV as well. So 15 waters, whoever loses. Yeah. How many waters does it take to get you feeling really loose? Probably. 15 but kill a normal person. Yeah, back in the day, I mean, I feel like any college kid can really pound 15 waters. 15 waters? Yeah, especially a college football player and especially a lineman. But it took me about, it takes up probably nowadays, probably like four to get me feeling really good. So I'm a little scared. I don't want to lose because I don't want to pound 15 waters. Yeah, 15 waters is something we'd like you to do on our show. But that's neither here nor there. Let's talk about Travis Kelsey here. This first pitch and you had a first pitch for the Red Sox, right? Yes, I had a first pitch for the Red Sox. We'll get to that. Yeah. It was kind of down the line. Yeah, it was right down the middle. I would tell you this big poppy would have probably hit it right over the gray wall. Sure, he would. But let's take a look at some of these. Did you see Travis Kelsey's pitch? Yes, I did. I'm actually surprised, you know, how terrible he did. I thought he was going to put it right down the middle, but he kind of like just chucked it, just gunned it right into the ground. I think he was nervous. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't see that. Because he has power. You see that power? I'm not really sure what happened. We would have to talk to him. Pitching Ninja did a side-by-side comparison of his pitch and a gronk spike of yours because it kind of looks similar. How would you rate the form here on his pitch? It actually looks very similar. I would give him a 10 out of 10. A 10 out of 10? If we're talking about a gronk spike, yeah, look at that. Let's go and look at some more pitchers here. Nick Siriani, of course, head coach of the Eagles. He was at the Phillies game this past Friday and here it is. Now, he misses the plate a little bit. He's also standing in front of the mound. What do you make of this? He's got a backup. I mean, come on now. You got a backup. You got to throw from the mound. I mean, like if you're like, what a George Bush, when you're coming out on the wheelchair, you're allowed to throw in front of the mound. It's like, this isn't George Bush coming out on the wheelchair. You're a friggin' head coach and you're a young head coach. He's like one of the guys who talks to his players and he's like, yeah. And lights him up and has enough energy. He has energy every single day and he's throwing it in front of the mound. You got a backup. He's got a Campbell standing on the mound. Yeah, exactly. Dan Campbell is actually standing at second base and throwing a bench. How about Cavante Turpin? Okay, right down the middle. Let's take a look at this one. Here he is. This is our turner and he, it was the Rangers last night. That's pretty good. All right, it is. I mean, you can do a backflip. Backflip. All right, we got another problem. He has to throw it from the mound, but just doing that backflip, that's what made the pitch. That's great for the pitch. It makes up for it. How about that? Yeah, it makes up for the pitch. It's comedian Burt Kreischer. He was in Cleveland. This is the day after Kelsey. So he had no big shoes to fill because Kelsey just woofed it. And then he went with a shirtless approach. He was like, it's something that Burt Kreischer has an affinity for doing. So he takes his shirt off. Style points for those potentially? Yeah. Oh boy. Definitely. This is what I like to see. This is what you like to see. All right. Yes. Look at that body. A nice dad bod. He's got to throw out a nice pitch. What happened? I didn't really see it. I didn't really see it. Did it bounce? It was too small. I don't know. Somebody in the control room, tell us what he did. Did it bounce? It bounces it. Yeah. Yeah. But he's allowed to bounce it. Yeah. It's Burt. Yeah. And he's got style points. Yeah. Here's the last one. That Burt's going in all about style. It doesn't matter what type of pitch he throws. So, Burt, good job. Especially with, yep. Our guy, Steve Baoki. Yeah. He had opened this. Now he throws cakes with his left hand. This one was a wild one. What's he does? I don't know. Not a lot. You know, Steve Baoki, he usually only goes deep. So that's why he threw it over the catcher. It was too short of a pass for him. Every time he throws that cake, especially when we watch it, it's a deep pass. So he thought, you know, it was O'Dell running down the seam. So that's why he chucked the ball like that. And that's why he can be a NFL quarterback as well. Steve Baoki. Do you remember your 2016 Red Sox pitch? What do you remember about that day in this moment? I remember I kind of just chucked a little bit. It was kind of like a 70 mile per hour fastball right down the middle. Yeah, I went through the whole motion. Boom, baby. Yeah, that would have been a, that would have been smacked out of the park. This is so ungrunk. It hurts. I expect, you know, we saw the Christcher. We saw, no, there's, you did this. And it's not memorable. Yeah, but I look pretty gangster up there. Yeah. You know? My son's hanging out. That's not bad. You did have your, maybe you had something like that. Yeah, it was kind of like a flick too. Flick of a wrist. So it wasn't like I gave you much effort. You did have much ease. Yeah, with ease. I mean, you won't have been more grunk like what you're looking for is like a knuckleball or something. Just something crazy. Yeah, knuckleball. And I actually did it. My brother played for the Whistler Tornados, which is like an hour away from Boston. Independently, and I threw out a first pitch. Actually, it was my rookie year when I was with the Patriots and I threw a knuckleball. But they knuckled all over the place. So I should have thrown another knuckleball. No, I think you'll have a chance to do it again. Did you drink some waters after that game? Yeah, I did. After that pitch? Yeah. Ground for the best. All right, we're doing some top secret business here, even though we kind of already told you what we're doing, but hopefully you didn't put it all together because Sue's will kill us. It's really hot in here. You've got more lines. It is hot. I can slap it. Taylor Parsons is on the show. Michael Mayer of Notre Dame, we're gonna talk about him. Oh, okay. Okay, I know. Maybe they ruled him. You'll leave it. I'm gonna search for better lighting. I've made my way to the front of the trailer. My team back here waiting, doing their thing. We had Gronk on the show. NBA great Chandler Parsons is here. And this is everyone's biggest fear. Me, Chris McAllen's like, hi, we're on the show. It's fine. Everyone's okay. We have an awesome guest and one of my favorite guys that I've talked about a lot on the program is here. And he's coming off an incredible senior season, right? Leads the entire nation in touchdowns. The entire nation in touchdowns in his final game at Tulane. He was the MVP in the Cotton Bowl. There went over USC. Please welcome running back, Tajers, Pierce, Tajer, what's up? Hey, how are you doing? Thank you for having me. Good, I'm really good. It's a little crazy right now. Gronk just left the trailer. He said it was too hot, but we are here. We're having a lot of fun. And I know this is a big week for you. Big weekend. We are talking about what I have learned about, which is the Poncha Tula Strawberry Festival in your hometown, my friend. So tell me about what it was like growing up in Louisiana and specifically in Poncha Tula. It was really great. Small little town. I don't know how many people we hold, but it's a smaller town. Like you said, it's a weekend of Strawberry Festival. And I was telling one of my friends, like, bang, this is really the highlight of our year of Strawberry Festival. It go on for like three days, on Friday, Saturday, Sunday. A lot of festivities. And we got a big parade Saturday morning. And like, I'm gonna have my own float. Me and my family, we gonna have a lot of different stuff. So it's gonna be really, really fun. What do you mean you're getting your own float? Like, I got my own float. So like, you know how like in a parade, you see like float system, I got my own float. Is this gonna be me and my family? You know, shout out to my sister-in-law for putting me together for me. That's amazing. What do you wear to the Strawberry Festival? Three days. It's like Coachella. Everyone's going to Coachella, these idiots. I wanna go to the Strawberry Festival. Come on. You can wear whatever you wanna wear cause it's gonna be like, you know, we in Louisiana, so it's gonna be like really, really hot. So then it's about the rain. So it's gonna be so like when the rain clear up, it's gonna be like so, so hot. So you can wear whatever. I think I'm gonna do like three different outfits, but I'm not too big on it for there. Well, you're big on strawberries. You're big on your hometown and you're big on playing football. And you went to play at Tulane. Your 2022 team accomplished the greatest single season turnaround in all college football history. You went from two and 10 to 12 and two. What is the biggest reason? Like the one reason you guys were able to get it together and turned it around? Accountability. And I say that from the top to the bottom. Everybody held up, everybody accountable. We all was pulling in the same direction. We all wanted the same in-go, so accountability was the biggest reason for this turnaround. Well, we love to hear that. I'm sure that's gonna carry on to one of 32 teams that are lucky enough to have you on their squad. And you finished your college career. You really put a stamp on it and I like that. You ended on the highest of high notes, Taja. You crossed USC and you said bye to Heisman Trophy winner Kayla Williams in the Cotton Bowl, 46 to 45, such a dominating performance. And if you look at the numbers, it was insane, right? Everything that you were able to do four rushing touchdowns, how important was that victory for you on this football journey, beating a powerhouse school like USC and ready to go play on the bigger stage of the NFL? I kind of like took myself out of the equation and just put it into the history of the school. We never did something like that at too late. So that's what we prodded the whole week on. Just making sure we live in a moment, make sure that we write down history. Coach even said, man, we win this game, we're gonna go down the greatest team in history. So that was a mindset the whole year. And that was a mindset definitely, coming into that game and coming out of that game. So it was like, I remember like, probably like two, three years ago, like an upper class, I didn't tell you how you want to be remembered. Like how we remember like Cardi Bowe champions or whatever I think. Even Peter Cardi Bowe, like that's something that they can't ever take away. So that's gonna go down forever. They can never take it from you, but you didn't fall off there. It wasn't some shining moment and then it went away because you said it changed something, right? And it was obvious. You took that momentum and trust me, I've covered this game on the NFL level for over 10 years. I don't really watch the college game. I'm not as plugged in, but your name is the name that I was hearing towards the end of your senior season and into this one. And I know that all the most important eyes in my business are on the senior bowl. That's what matters. What are, what are guys like? Not even in the game, the week leading into practice. And you crushed it on every level. And last week we were talking about this rep that you had that week. Will you please talk me and every NFL fan through this play? It's just like optional. He took the, he took the inside away from, well, he just went outside of the, he's just outside right here, went outside of the, he bought a job and just a little whip out, whip back game. It ain't nothing too special. It ain't nothing too special. Oh my gosh. I'm running back, needing teams are needing you there. So I want you to know that we love you. We obviously made the forte comparisons a little bit just because of the, you know, the school and, you know, where running backs are going in the draft, but is there a running back in the NFL that you sort of look at and say, I like how he moves. I want to be like him and I model my game after him. Oh, not necessarily, but it got two guys that I really like on. And, and Jones and Elmer, I like, I really like those guys. But like me just sitting there like saying, I'm a model of my game. I've been somebody, but those two guys I really, really like, I really liked it. I like everything that they do when it comes to on the field. I, you know, I know that you, you know, you have to grow up knowing and loving Reggie Bush there too. So have you had a chance to meet any of those guys? Like you're there, you're in New Orleans. Have you met Alvin Camara? No, like we probably reached out to each other like text messages, like texting, but like no, I'm not meeting nobody. I want to be Reggie Bush though. Cause like, like I said, like, my first year of playing football, I got 25, he was my favorite player at the time. I used to like him a lot. So that's why you had the 25, got it. Because I was thinking about Matt Forte and the reason I brought him up, he's obviously a Tulane alum. And I think that you'll be the first player from Tulane to go in the first three rounds of the draft since Forte did it back in 2008. I'm a big Bears fan. And he had a great career wear in that number 22. You wore 22. Any connection there? Not, not, not, not too much. I just try to, I just try to make my own path in life. I don't really, I got to say like, you know, I don't really focus on comparison. I try to, you know, live when it's me with my feet up. How'd you feel about your pro day? All 32 teams were there. They all showed up. You were dealing with an injury. You didn't run the 48, the combine. Getting that four, four time. How important was that to you? It was, it was important. It was important to show the, show all 32 teams that like run fast. There was, that was probably a big question coming from the combine. Like why are you running easy fast? So like, just checking that box. It's all about just, just checking the box along the journey. That's all it is about. All right, we're going to get to know you a little bit better and let all the NFL fans get to know you a little better. And we're going to give a minute on the clock and I'm going to ask you and bank through as many questions as possible. Okay, you ready? Oh man, y'all ready? All right, who would you love if you could pick anybody to headline Coachella? Who would you pick? Say it again. You could pick anybody to headline Coachella. Which musical act would you pick? What is it? It's like a big music festival. I love that you don't know what it is because you're the best. Yeah, I'm immediately a fan of you. Like, Oh, Kevin Gates. Kevin Gates. Kevin Gates, okay, great. The dream car that you want to own someday. A Bugatti. A Bugatti, okay. Best preparation for eating strawberries or best way to eat strawberries? Best way to eat strawberries is with some cheesecake. With cheesecake. And that's what you're a man after my heart here. Is there a TV show or a show that you're streaming right now that you love? Sanford and Son. It's like so old. You're watching with your phone. Hold on. Stop the clock. You're just casually watching episodes that you're binge watching Sanford and Son. What? It is. That's all I do. With Sanford and Son and Martin. That's all I watch. Martin. I mean, Damn Gina is one of my favorite shows ever. But not, you're too young for this, but it would be on. And then the second half hour was living single with Queen Latifah and it was amazing. It was like the best hour of TV back in the 90s, back in the day. Okay, Sanford and Son's, I love that. Best food spot in New Orleans? Let's say I'm there for one hour. Where am I going? One hour. That's a good question. New Orleans food and spirit. New Orleans food and spirit. I'm going to write that down here. Favorite NFL player of all time? Favorite NFL player of all time? I really like Barry Sanders. Barry Sanders. I'm beeping. We gotta go. We're going too slow. Let's do this. All right. Favorite video game? Favorite video game, GTA. Best Tulane football player ever? Best Tulane football player ever, Matt Forte. Class of this year. Okay, come on. Favorite comedian? Favorite comedian? Favorite comedian, I know. Oh man, man, man. That's a hard one. That's a hard one. That's a hard one. That's a hard one. Oh, Bernie Mac. Bernie Mac. Steve Mac. Oh, Rest in Peace, Bernie Mac. You are, but you have an old soul. My goodness. And your favorite superhero? My favorite superhero. Dang, I don't get into superheroes. But I like The Hulk. Is he a good one? The Hulk, I think so. What are you into outside of Samford and Sons then? You don't like Coachella. You don't like, what are you into? Do you watch Power? I watch, but not as in Power, like a bunch of different things with Ghost and like all those different, but Power was like the OG one, right? Like that's when I'm watching right now. I'm watching what it is, like those book three. That's when I'm watching right now. Like that one, there's too many of them for me, I think, Power. Who's the original cast? There's Power. You got a binge watch there. I got a binge watch Power. Okay, I'm going to do that. I thought, why don't I think, yeah, I had the wrong show in mind. I met Omari though. What's up? Omari Artifact is amazing. Yeah, he's amazing. I interviewed him once. He's great. I'm a big fan. All right, so what's your favorite show for we leave? Oh my gosh. Right now, it's this song. It's this song called, or this show called Succession. And it's kind of like Power and it's kind of like Billions and it's on HBO and it's, but it's a lot. It's too many. You're too focused on Ball right now, but maybe next off season, after you've won offensive rookie of the year, you can catch up on that. How does that feel? It's okay. I like you. I like you a lot. I like you, Taj. All right, we will see you at the draft. I'm telling you, first three rounds, Matt Forte, don't tell, I love Matt Forte. After watching and watching those thousand year seasons, you're the best player out of two lane, coming to an NFL team year. You will be back with Charlotte Parsons as I am melting in this car. I am literally melting. I'm, welcome back to up in Adams. I'm looking at this Coachella lineup. Am I this not cool? Like who is Porter Robinson? Who are underworld? Who are these groups? What happened at Pearl Gem and My Morning Jacket? I'm coming to you live from our trailers, shooting a commercial with Gronk today. We had a Gronk on the show. We just met Taj Espiers, who's coming to an NFL backfield near you. These idiots let me drive this RV around. So I'm gonna get a ticket here in Newark, New Jersey, where I'm sure our next guest dreams he could be right now. Let's talk to him. He's a nine year, I believe, NBA veteran and one of the only guests we've ever had on the show that's taller than our first guest, Rob Gronkowski, Chandler Parsons. Good morning, good day. Hey, good morning. How you doing, Kay? I'm so good. It's so good to see you. You had run it back today, so I'm sure you're all ready to talk NBA with me, huh? Yeah, I am holding down your chair right now while you were in the trailer in Newark. I got you. Wait, you're in, I forgot about this. You're in LA. What do you think of the new studio? It's awesome, right? The new studio is sick. I just, I moved kind of, I don't live necessarily close, but coming here this early, at least I beat the traffic coming here. But the studio is dope. I love it. I'm so glad you got to be there and Parsons, Parsons, Parsons, Parsons, sure. Give a beetle and bops and company my love. Listen, we're kind of an NFL show. You're an NBA guy, so I figured we could start this by breaking down Coachella because I hear that you are going to, and what am I missing? What is gonna happen? Like, I've never been ever. You've never been? No. So you know what, this is, when I played I obviously couldn't go, this is during the playoffs, but I've now gone the last three years, and it's fun. You know what, I'm 34 now, like so I don't really even go to the festival, and this year the lineup is kind of a little janky. I don't really, I don't even recognize a lot of the names, but you know what, it's a weekend where you get to wear pants like that and dress up and you walk around this big festival and you might drink a little bit and listen to music and just kind of party with your friends. This year I'm kind of going just to play golf and hang. Oh, see I love that's a very 34 year old way to do it, and I appreciate the lineup, and I was like, huh, after Bad Bunny you sort of lose me, but I was thinking about this, and here's the lineup. I want to ask you, you are, what are you like six to six, 10-ish? Yeah. Okay, there's like a rule of the universe that whenever I'm at a concert and I'm five feet tall, and this just happened, I went to see Adele in Vegas, and everyone, and I had great seats too, I was elevated, everyone's there, and then literally like the Tony Soprano big guy sits right in front of me and I can't see the stage. So this happens at every freaking concert that I go to. You being six, 10, in a crowd like that, do you think about it? Do you understand that you're casting a shadow and making it a horrible day for tons of people behind you? I do, and it's a tough life, Kay. I literally, in a movie theater, or I went and saw if I'm at a concert or something like Coachella, it's tough, and you try and be as courteous as possible, but there's not like there's seats in this field either, so I have to stand up, which makes it a real problem for the people behind me, but there's always the guys too that put the girls on the shoulder. That's even more offensive than me standing in front of you, if you ask me. Yeah, because that's a choice. You don't have a choice. Yeah, I was, but yeah. Yeah, but do you go, God, going on your shoulders would be like a ride at Six Flags Great America. Like that would be absolutely a harrowing experience for any woman who wants to take that adventure, but do you go, like, because you can't just stand in the back, right? Like I want to be as close to the action as possible, but you doing that, is that greedy? Like should you morally go stand in the back of Coachella while Bad Bunny's doing his thing? Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think I should have to worsen my view and my standpoint based off my height. I will try and kind of not go to the back, but I'll try and kind of go off to the side and not obstruct the entire stage with my big head. Yeah, it's very courteous of you at 6'10". Do you have any Coachella stories? I love listening to you on podcasts. I was listening to you tell that Kobe story about you at the club and the $22,000 tab because you're a great storyteller. Any fun moments at Coachella? Yeah, you know what? Coachella is, like I said, it's basically an excuse of a weekend where you can dry things and you drink a little bit too much and you can wear whatever you want and there's no judgment and it's just fun. It's like you're like a kid at recess basically running around this field and depending on who the artists are that weekend, it could be really fun. Like you said, this year, I'm not really jazzed up to see anybody, Frank Ocean on Sunday, I guess would be cool. Carillas, once they play like one or two songs, I think then I'm kind of over that, but it's gotten to be such a thing and it's so crowded. I don't know if it's because I got an older, I've been there before, but it is tough to move around. But it really is a blast. If you haven't gone, you should definitely go, not this year, because again, the music kind of sucks this year, you should go next year for sure. I'll go back next year. You like DJs though, who would you want to be in, what is it, the do-tent or whatever? Who would you want to see take over? Give me a DJ look. I love the chain smokers, I love Marshmallow, those are my guys, I see them all the time in Vegas, but again, they're, I don't know how, I looked at that list, the flyer that you put up there, I don't know 90% of these group names. Yeah, it'll be fun either way though. So we'll see pictures of you, I'm sure. That's what sucks about you too, you can't blend in with the crowd. Like sometimes you're at something and you see and you look over and you're like, oh shit, Justin Bieber is standing right there, but he's blends in kind of. But you would, man, it's like bronc, you guys can't go anywhere. Yeah, I can't just throw glasses on and hide a seven foot body. So it's definitely, it's a little recognizable out there, but again, everyone's kind of on the same wave and it's fun. So everyone's on psychedelics is what you're saying. We're always getting, it's a family show. Okay, you're fresh off, run it back. I want to get some NBA stuff out of you. Shams kind of keeps me in the loop. I try to watch, run it back when I can, but tell me we're going to go through these as quick as possible. Graphic fire style. Let's put a minute on the clock, actually producers and give me right now, best team in the NBA. Milwaukee Bucks. Oh, honest, okay. How good are the Lakers? Lakers are pretty good. It's crazy how far they've come from the trade deadline to where they are now. They could advance in the playoffs. Ooh, best matchup in the first round. Ooh, I like the Knicks versus the Cavs. Just got to think that's the most competitive matchup that could go seven games. I like that quickly, kid. I've been to one NBA game in three years and it was in Julius Randall scored a billion points against the Timberwolves. Okay, best chance of a first round upset. Best chance of what? A first round upset. The Lakers. I think the Lakers can beat the Memphis Grizzlies if they get that seven seed. Wow, that's kind of polarizing. Oh, and the Golden State Warriors, I think will beat the Sacramento Kings. That's a six versus three seed. There we go, upset special. One team I should root for in the playoffs. Who do we like? Ooh, I mean, I think you should root for the Philadelphia 76ers. 76ers? Yeah, why not? They haven't, like Joelle is probably gonna be the MVP. James Harden hasn't won a championship. That'll be a fun team. They're in there fun to watch. All right, I liked him better when Michael Rubin owned him. Okay, player who doesn't get enough love. I think it's Joelle Embiid. I think he's the MVP this year. And I think we keep trying to create these reasons why he's not. How about a player who gets too much love? The guy that's the runner up MVP, Yokoch. He's already got it two years in a row. I think if he gets it a third time, it's not gonna be good. Not gonna be good. Okay, a lot of people have that opinion. It sounds like team that would have the most success as a team in the NFL. Whoa. Probably like the Boston Celtics or the Miami Heat. They're like a big physical tough team that kind of defends. Pick one. Oh, Boston Celtics. I like Boston Celtics. They're scrappy. Okay, I like that. The most physical team got it. And who wins the NBA championship? I gotta go with the Bucks. They're the best team all year long. The Eastern Conference is better than the Western Conference. I think whoever comes out of there wins it all. And it's gonna be the Bucks. I love that. We've got these playing games tonight, but I wanna talk about this drama. Listen, if something happens in the NBA, Chandler and it makes it onto my Twitter timeline, it's big. It's huge. It's dramatic. This Timberwolves spurs game, right? You got Jaden McDaniels punches the wall. Then they have the squabble that we're seeing here with Gobert and Kyle Anderson. This was probably the craziest thing I've ever seen in the NBA. What did you make of it? I mean, it is pretty crazy. And the Dremont Green thing earlier in the year and practice where the video surfaced, it's a big deal. This being live during a game on TV in front of thousands of fans at your home arena, I've never seen this before. I've had teammates get in arguments. I've had teammates fight. I've seen punches thrown in the locker room. Never like this where all eyes and all cameras are on them. So this is tough. And it also comes at the worst time ever, right? This team is playing the Lakers. They're trying to get into the seven, eight seed. And now they're going into this game tonight super short-handed because they suspended Rudy Gobert. And then you see McDaniels punch the wall leaving the game as well. And those are two critical pieces to their team. And those are two guys that they really need for this matchup against the Lakers. So I've never seen anything like this. Again, I saw a pretty good fight in the locker room in Memphis one time, but never during a game. This was pretty wild. And knowing Kyle Anderson and Rudy Gobert, they're very uncharacteristic because they're both super nice dudes. What was the fight about in the Memphis locker room? You know what's crazy? Rudy Gobert and Kyle Anderson are very nice kids. The two dudes that fought in Memphis were this guy Garrett Temple and Omri Caspi who are even nicer dudes than these two. And I don't know, it was just like something that just trickled over from practice or whatever. But they were going at it. You were going at it. What's the closest you've ever felt? And you obviously never showed it on the court, but what's like the most angry where you thought I might actually lose control here but it didn't happen? See, I never really beefed with my teammates like that. I'd get into it with another player. I'd get into it with the refs. I've got into it with a fan, things like that. But I'm a pretty even-keeled guy that I never really got into close. I got into fighting college one time with a teammate, but nothing like this. You don't fight with Travis Kelsey, that's what I hear. I hear you two are buds, you're boys, you're playing some golf later this off-season or whatever. How did you two become friends? Yeah, we met a couple of years ago in a golf tournament and we just kind of got matched up and he's an awesome dude. We were very, very similar outside of our profession. We enjoy the same things. We have a lot of mutual friends. He spent some time in Los Angeles and I don't really have a team for football. I loved the Cowboys when I played in Dallas and kind of get to know some of those guys. But now, becoming close with Travis, obviously I'm super hyped for him and Pat, that they just won the Super Bowl and it really transpired from golf, which is funny because I'd never played golf. I just think it was the most boring game ever and now ever since I stopped playing. Now I'm all in. I'm hooked on pickleball and golf. That's all I do pretty much. It's crazy. It's pathetic. Are you into golf? I'm pretty good. I'm very good at pickleball, but I'm getting better at golf. What does it take to be a good, I know nothing about pickleball. Picture, picture like tennis meets ping pong. Where it's closer, it's a smaller court playing with a wiffle ball. Obviously my length and my size and athleticism, that helps, but it's a hand-eye coordination. If you're athletic and you've played some sports with a ball, you could learn pickleball pretty fast. I'd be good at that. Give me names of athletes that would be real, that you would guess are really good at pickleball. Like there's tennis... Gronk, I've seen Gronk play. He's okay. Drew Brees plays. He's pretty good. Gronk plays pickleball. He plays all the time. Ask Gronk about pickleball. He plays all the time. What do you mean you've seen him physically? Like I've seen him physically. I don't know if I've seen him. I've seen him. There's like these accounts on Instagram that kind of all go around and play with different athletes and celebrities. And Gronk has definitely been on there. Okay, who else? Drew Brees is a pickleball guy? Drew Brees is a big pickleball guy because a lot of teams, a lot of guys and ex-athletes now have equity. Like I own part of the Dallas MLP team and like Mahomes owns. Larry Fitzgerald is pretty good at pickleball. There's a bunch of athletes that are now playing and it's fun. It's a game for everybody. I can play with my wife. I can play with my parents. You know, we go to Kabul all the time and where we have a place, it's a cult. Like it is a cult following and this sport is growing. I think they're putting it in the Olympics. So it's blowing up. So Chandler, are you and I going to, and by me I say just I'll help and you'll all do all the work and you'll do nothing and just lend me your name. But we do like a fan dual pickleball invitational. Yeah, like me and you should play like Betel and Shams and we would dominate them. No, no, I didn't say anything about playing. I'm thinking like we get all those people you're talking about, the Grunks, that Drew Brees is this cult following. We go down to your place in Kabul. I think we're on, I think we're onto something here. I think that could be special. You're going to have time to do that though. I hear you're having another baby. Oh my gosh, let me tell you something. I've had a great life. I've got some really cool things happen to me finding out that I'm having a boy. Oof, it was the most special, most exciting time of my life, honestly. And we're super stoked and we're super excited. What are you most excited for? Honestly, like having a girl, like I was set on, I thought I was going to have, you know, four or five girls and I thought I was just going to keep going. Then I have my daughter and I'm like, okay, there's no way I can love another kid more than her, another girl more than her. So that's part of the reason why I want a boy. And it's just like as a guy, as an athlete, like I want to have a kid, I want to be his coach and I want to put him on the tennis court and basketball court and do things with him like that. And it's just, I don't know, it's just, I'm just so excited just to, I've seen how far my daughter's come. She's 17 months now and everything, how she talks and waddles around. It's just, it's the funniest, greatest thing I've ever experienced. And I can't wait to do it with a little boy that looks half like me and half like Haley. I mean, you're such a grown up now. Look at you. Well, I'm still finding time to go to music festivals on psychedelics. So, listen, I have a fine balance. Enjoy the mushrooms while you can, my friend. We'll talk a little pickleball. We'll have your son play in pickleball out there. I need 10th annual Parsons Gronk Fandal Invitational. I figured it all out. We're on the show. Good luck to the Lakers, everybody. He says the Lakers are winning the NBA championship game. Send it out on Twitter. You took out one of the back on Fandal with Michelle Beatle and Shams. Notre Dame Titan, Michael Mayer. One thing about him is he's known as the Kentucky Gronk house, the Kentucky Gronk. And he's known for that as, for one reason, guys. Searching the hashtag NKY Gronk. And you will see exactly what I need, all right? From his days at Covington Catholic High School that was in Park Hills, Kentucky. Through his time in South Bend, Indiana, he has sported that number 87. Like our Gronk, who I'm watching, go to the, I mean, how many Christons are you gonna eat? Save me some! He's over there hanging out, was shooting something fun for Fandal today. Listen to me. When he was there, from high school, through his time in South Bend, he wore a Gronk's number, and he made life absolutely miserable for anybody trying to cover him, as you can see here. He's six-five, two-forty-nine. He's absolutely torn through secondaries. He's at over 100, sorry, 1,600 yards, 16 touchdowns over the last two seasons. And Notre Dame, as we all know, proud history of stars tied on position. Michael Mayer, though, has more career catches than any of them. Right now, if you're looking at where he's projected to go and you're looking and listening to J. L. Jeremiah as of the world, he's projected to go in the late first round. And so, while I've seen the Saints, the Mills, the Cowboys, those are the places brought up as potential destinations for Mayor's services. Listen, there's another team. I was going to put it on the map here. Shoot my shot here. Another team that lost its starting tight end in free agency, and they would keep NKY Gronk a little bit closer to home if he ends up in Sinsey. And here's Mayor at the Combine when asked about that potential possibility. It would be awesome. You know, Joe Barrow throwing me that ball, man. Look, he's a national champion. He's taking his team to the Super Bowl. And so, obviously, I'm trying to win ball games, man. I'm trying to go to the NFL. I'm trying to win ball games and win the Super Bowl. So, yeah, I want to be put in a good position for sure to be able to have a good quarterback on my way, be able to win some Super Bowls and things like that. So, you know, growing up 15 minutes from Pude Stadium, man. It would be awesome. There's no doubt about that. Are you guys kidding me? Are you kidding me? All roads lead to Cincinnati. You know what? I heard there's some manifestation going on. And to be honest, I'd love to see it. Michael Mayer to the Bengals make it happen, adding a tenet to like him to this Bengals offense would be unbelievable. And he'd look great sitting in that row at UFC with Joe Barrow and Chase and all those guys hanging out at Sam Hubbard's. But seriously, wherever this guy ends up, this baby Gronk, I'm confident we're going to see an instant impact with the blocking and the catching and the offense. And just the team. The Notre Dame product. One thing you need to know about Michael Mayer, we'll be back to wrap up the show. And then I've got to work for 10 hours. Aren't there rules against this? Sounds like the Cardinals are getting wind and dine. They're entertaining multiple offers for that third pick. Shepter saying at least six teams have inquired at the Arizona Cardinals about trading up for the third on April 27th to kick off the NFL draft. Cardinals still mulling over whether to move, pick or make it. They'd have to be, oh my gosh. Here's the thing that I think about. You can take whatever we want. I look at it and I say, did Chicago make this move with the Panthers too early? Was it the best thing to do? And Cardinals should do, I'll let you take it. What do you think about that? When I look at that as a Bears person, I'm like, well... I think it's a fair question, but when you look at the return that the Bears got, it's also, you know, it's hard to be upset. Maybe they could have squeezed a little bit more out of the deal like this, but when you're able to land a couple first round picks and a superstar wide receiver like DJ, more that you desperately needed for your young quarterback, I can't be too upset about that up on the Bears. What do you think about the Cardinals here? So they've got the third overall pick. I think they have seven, this might not be right, but I think they have seven other picks in the draft here. They obviously have a new head coach. They want to retool and rebuild around their quarterback. What do you make of this? Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of, there's a lot of rebuilding to be done when you lose guys like Patrick Peterson and Sharon Johnson, JJ White year after year after year, especially on that defensive side of the ball. So they're in the dilemma right now with that third pick. They're going to get the top defensive player on their board, which is likely Will Anderson Jr, who's a phenomenal edge rusher. I know you talked about him last week. So you have to weigh, are you willing to pass up on a guy like that to maybe pick up some more picks knowing that you have some real overall retooling on this roster to do? You know, I think with the teams that we're hearing, if there are that many teams involved in this bidding war, they might be able to get a heck of a return. And I don't think they're just one piece away. You're not picking number three overall and just being one piece away from being able to contend. And I find them, I'm not making the decision until literally, Shepter's on stage in Kansas City, right? They have no reason they can wait and milk this thing until the clock starts on a trade or draft night. I'm, well, first of all, the idea of them trading down and getting like a defensive piece is alluring to me. I think that that would be fun and good. But Hamilton also, who are the teams? Six teams, who? Yeah, it's sounding, we're hearing, we're hearing like the Titans, the Raiders who I know you brought up last week, which would be a really interesting and trading team, the Buccaneers potentially, sorry. I don't know about the Lions. You know, sitting there at six, they're in a great spot to get to get one of the top defensive players. So it's going to be somebody, I think who's really quarterback needy. All right, well, we'll see how it shakes out. Don't take your time, Cardinals. All right, we'll talk.