 Hi, I'm Jackie Y. Rock and this is another episode of You and Your Health. Today's guest is a little different from what we've done in the past. We've had different practitioners of different healing modalities come on to this show and talk about how to more aggressively as an individual pursue wellness rather than just relying on the medical community. What can we as individuals pursue for our own wellness? And our first guest was Wendy Haley who here in Montpelier, Vermont has a practice called Lucid Path Wellness. And our guest today, Irene Mays, has been seeing Wendy for some time. So welcome. Thank you very much for having me. Thank you for coming and joining us and telling us about your experiences. Happy to. Yesterday was just a complete... Right. What did you say to me when I walked in? You were the interview lady. And it was really interesting because Wendy and I were talking after my second session and I had just said to Wendy, this should be a line around the block. How do you get the word out? And that's what we were saying when I walked into the waiting area and said, wow, that's really neat. You're the interview lady. I just saw you. And here we are today which is pretty... So you came up from New York? Yes. Where in New York? I live with my family in Westchester about half an hour outside of Manhattan. We live right on the Hudson River. It's a really pretty place called Irvington. And you come up often? And I come up whenever I can get here. And yes, I plan to come up more often. And not only yourself, but... I bring my son whenever possible. He's 13 and he benefits from this enormously. I'm so excited to find out about the energy genesis. And actually this was my first experience in the energy genesis having come up a few times before. There was an earlier prototype and it continued development. And this was my first experience. And it's wonderful. It's not completely different. It is, I guess some people would say it is, but since I had the previous experiences, it was very comfortable. What was the name of the previous? The life vessel and it was smaller. It was just a different construction. It's energy medicine, very similar, light sound vibration resonance. But there was a... the person who invented the technology or communicated the technology had a different structure in mind. It's better to help deliver that energy to our bodies. And so I was so excited to try it. I couldn't get here fast enough when I found out that Wendy had her new machine. I said, Wendy. So how did you find out about her? I watched a video. My son and I had a big change in our health. It happened very, almost simultaneously. What happened? We discovered through this process, through the learning process over the last three and a half years, that we were born with a hereditary genetic condition called primary immune deficiency. And what that means if you are in general good health and the way I understand genetics is it's not necessarily a promise of health or disease or illness, but it impacted greatly by your environment, your diet, your stress levels, and so many things go into it. And I've grown to learn more about that. My mother had this, and apparently it's transmitted, it's carried by the mother. It's an ex-girlfriend's own thing. It's carried by mom, and it started to make sense as we learned more of our whole history, became better understood, the family history as well. And I had some primary immune met some very challenging infections. My son and I both got Lyme disease. Wow. We became part of that group of people that don't necessarily heal well from Lyme disease. Now, I had it before. I apparently was infected with Lyme disease and was carrying it, and it manifested as arthritis and headaches and some things that I think we now better understand to look at Lyme disease. But this was years back, and we believed it was rheumatoid arthritis. And it was triggering autoimmune responses, but I took steroids for a poison ivy infection. And my daughter and I, she's older, were doing some yard work. She got the same, she had the same exposure I did and healed very well from the poison ivy, and I just got worse and worse and worse. And it became actually like this dangerous poison ivy infection, which, you know, and I'm thinking, I'm very much a, oh really, you know, come on, it's good. We have a life to live here, folks. Let's go, you know. There was no ignoring how it was spreading and in my blood, and so I went to a doctor. I ended up in the emergency room, and they said, OK, we're going to put you on steroids. And I was very fortunately, I had been working with a doctor who practices functional medicine. What's functional medicine? So functional medicine is getting at the root cause of what. So it's, so the full picture for me at the time and still is a great western medical doctor who practices medicine. So that's what they did, they're practicing medicine. But they're not necessarily getting at the root cause. We're not talking about nutrition or not. So Dr. Susan Blum was my doctor, still is my doctor, and she is a medical doctor, so she can treat your acute, your symptoms and whatnot. But you work with her and partner with functional medical practitioners to get to the root cause of what is, you know, what's triggering this disease or the symptoms. So she said, OK, I can see why you need to be on steroids. This is serious, but it's not good for you because you have something, we had been working together to fund my immune system issues. And she said, OK, you know, I don't like this 30 days on steroids. This is not going to work for you because it will turn, kind of turn off your immune system. And you can't do that, it might not reboot. So you can't, we know enough after working together to understand that steroids are not a good solution for you. Right now. Oh, yeah. And she really helped, I mean, I showed her to think what would have happened if she had not intervened and helped. Not intervened, I asked for her help and she spoke to my medical, the other medical doctors. And so she came up with a plan for a few days on, a few days off, closely monitored. And then a month later I had a stroke because during that time, the Lyme infection, just on those couple of days on, couple of days off, my immune system was, the steroids acted your immune system so my immune system wasn't working on its own. And during that time, the Lyme infection that I had been experiencing as arthritis and got into my spinal cord and my brain and it caused inflammation. Wow. To the point where I had blood circulation, limitation in my brain. And I came home from work one day on the floor and my son called 9-1-1. He was almost 11 at the time. I was just scared the bejesus out of him. It surely did and has stayed with him. He is an amazing kid. I've got two amazing kids. And he was, he's really good in situations like that. He became very clear, you know, and didn't panic and called the ambulance. And then it became the beginning of a new journey. So where before we were working, I was working to understand, you know, what my bio-terrain was because everybody's different. But that's a lot of work. That's a lot of work. That's a, there's a lot. And then my son simultaneously also having had Lyme disease which we didn't know. And his joints were degenerating at 11. He was told he needed a new hip. Holy cow. Yeah, it was pretty serious stuff. He also developed chronic autoimmune encephalitis. So we both had the joint degeneration. We both had autoimmune markers. And then they found the Lyme disease in my spinal fluid. But it wasn't just that. It was a very big part of the picture. But the big picture was why aren't you healing? Right. And then the answer was because you have other things going on. And now it's multi-system. And, you know, it's funny, it's strange silver lining. But I am grateful that we went through this together because I know what my son is going through. And I can advocate and help him with school and doc. And he's not just describing what he's experiencing. Physically, emotionally, cognitive. Like, I understand. Right. I really understand experientially. Exactly. So I feel like I'm better able to, it's important to me that he feels understood, that he doesn't have to constantly explain this. Because on a good day, you want to live your life fully. And you want to shine as brightly as you can. And that's something that's really important to us. You know, don't hold back on your good days. You know, you don't want to run yourself into the ground. But live. You know, if you feel, you know, sometimes I need a cane, sometimes I don't. And when I get out of the energy genesis, I don't. So let's talk about that. So you were experiencing a lot of distress. Yes. And then you came across a video. Then, so there I was looking at all of that. All of these various, the immune system issues were at the core. I found a great series of interviews. And this one interview with Barry McNeill, the person who invented the energy genesis technology or brought it into the light. And he was talking about it. And the first thing that struck me was his authenticity. He was phenomenal. He was just so, you know, that feeling when you get, when you look at somebody and you say, wow, this is, I want to listen to what this person has to say. He doesn't. He seems like someone who has something important to say and is just putting it out there and hoping that it helps people. And then he said, the body does not know disease by name. And that at the time, given all of the various multi-system, bop-a-mole type issues that my son and I were trying to manage, really resonated with me because at the heart of it, it seemed like what we're really talking about is a body out of balance with many different manifestations happening. And I liked understanding the science and I had great medical doctors and great functional medical practitioner. But there was this man saying that there is an energy medicine or modality that doesn't really care what you have. You can be perfectly healthy. You want to stay that way? This is for you. If you want to feel better, I mean, who doesn't have stress? Who doesn't need to detox? Right now, given where everybody does. So I'm looking at this modality and thinking this helps everybody from excellent health to serious illness. You know, it can't hurt. I wasn't conflicted with medical treatments. So immediately, and I studied many things and I researched many things. My husband, he teaches me about my binders. I've got them all, like, okay, now we'll go to this binder. This was different. I got right on my computer and started researching. It wasn't a sales thing, so he wasn't saying you could find these. He was talking about energy medicine and what he was bringing out there. And I found out that there were maybe four or five machines in the country, maybe one or two in Europe, and that the closest one to Maine New York was here in Vermont. And so... How long ago was that? About two years ago. And that was so exciting, because I would have gone to the moon for this. I mean, I just had that feeling. And it's not that I hadn't tried many things and some things were helpful, some things were not helpful right now, some things were... But I had a different feeling about this and it was funny because I talked to... I had three locations, three phone numbers, made a couple of calls, was on the phone with Wendy. I'm going to say, oh boy, I sent her an email too. We were connected. I had my three sessions and my son's three sessions on the bugs and we were buying our Amtrak tickets. And I was just so happy that that was working. And it just felt... Well, first of all, Wendy... You know what? So she feels like an old friend immediately. And I spoke on the phone with Wendy and instantly felt very comfortable. I felt no pressure. Like, give me your questions and I will, you know, I will give you whatever information I have. I told her I saw the same... I told her about the interview. She said, I saw the same interview you got on a plane. And so I said, oh, okay. So you had the same, hmm, wow, kind of response to this. And so that felt good. That felt very promising. Absolutely. And the comfort with Wendy and I loved the idea of a seven-hour train ride, to be honest with you, because you decompress on a seven-hour, you get bugs and you read and you can't putter around. There's nothing you have to do when you're on the train. Exactly. Just relax. Exactly. And my son is great with that stuff, too. So we came up and then my husband joined us another time. And his health is good, except that he's completely exhausted because his wife and his son are working. Caregivers have a hard time. Exactly. Nobody really recognizes that. It's without question. He was already in a caregiving role. He and his siblings with his parents and then that went straight into my son and I getting... We had something that had was developing over time, but that was really when it all kind of hit the wall. And so we went... The energy genesis... The energy genesis technology as well. And he just felt... He went from feeling... Helped him with stress and anxiety and just that feeling of overwhelm. That was the thing that he said that he felt after he got out of the energy. He said, you know, my feeling of overwhelm, which he does actively try to manage with taking time out and breathing and trying to take care... He's aware of it and yet it doesn't... He has to be very vigilant about it. And he said, you know, I didn't have to do anything. I got out of the machine and I felt... Well, we have just overall sense of well-being, less stress. And then he felt the detox stuff. And this is not a sick person. He felt it. He felt it in his body and his joints. And he said, there's a lot of water. Now I understand why. You know? Because he was thinking, what could this really be doing? He's a professional musician. He does a lot of recording and studio work. And he understands resonance and hurts and much better than I do. And sound technology. He was very interested in that. And he understood, okay, get that water. Everybody drink your water. Because he really got we were actively detoxing for... And it just didn't give him all of the intense modalities that we had from western medicine to everything else. Nothing was this non-invasive, relaxing and easy. And yet, as powerful. And it was... I was afraid to get hopes up too high. I didn't want my son to get... But I did promise him, this is a no-brainer. You can just lie, you can fall asleep. Don't worry about it. Just lie there and it'll do what's magic. Whether you get what's happening or not. So, that was two years ago. Now, fast forward to today. Can you tell our audience the difference in the symptoms and how your body and your son's body is today? It is It's actually a little... I get a little choked up because it was... I went in for the overall. That's what really... I had so many things going on. Pain and joints. Really bad headaches and just a feeling of being sick. Was it all the time? All the time. And to some degree every day. And learning very much nutritionally. I think I had a pick-line in my heart. A daily IV. That for almost a year. And so the toxic build-up and then this medication helped me enormously. It crossed the blood-brain barrier and killed a lot of the infections that were causing a very intense state of paralysis. My left side was paralyzed. The stroke and the infections then continued. So it was in pretty bad shape. And so the medicine helped. It got me to the point where I was mobile. But I walked out of the energy genesis for the first time and felt... This is the word I use. Sturdy. I felt stronger immediately. I felt balanced. I felt like I can stand and not worry that my legs are going to buckle. And when he said, that's great. Don't fall. You know? And she gets it. She believes. She's a true believer. I walked out of there. And I felt this moving around. And I felt like all the areas that need work were getting what they needed. And she's going, that's right. And I'm Rick Lune because I'm so excited. And then after my second session one of my biggest things at the time. And believe it or not, I don't know this was not my most worrisome symptom but I was going blind in my right eye because of the trigger autoimmune responses. So I think a lot of people talk about autoimmune disease being triggered by infection. And that's one of the strong connections and it doesn't necessarily need to be Lyme disease or... But once those infections are triggered and they're in your brain and they can trigger all of these you know, autoimmune issues one of mine was that my ocular nerve was so inflamed and pressing on my right eye that I was losing my vision in my right eye and I was down to maybe 80 plus percent vision loss and I was really only seeing light and shadow out of my right eye and my legs were impacted and so the balance issues that came with that and I was very... I was kind of like, I don't want the patch yet I don't want, you know, to get I didn't want to go there yet I didn't jump on the, okay this is my new reality but I didn't want to be foolish either, you know, I didn't want to hurt myself falling and I walked out of there and walked into the waiting area and I could see it was not light and shadow anymore, I could see I was a little blurry because my eye had been my vision had been so constricted for so long and I said, well I can see you and she goes, couldn't see me before I said, well I could out of this eye but my right eye you know, I can see you out of both eyes now and that's miraculous and it has, that was it and I was told in no uncertain terms that this was going in one direction this was not going to be and it was said in a very kind way and this the person telling me this was a medical doctor, this is my this, given what I have to treat you, this is the way this goes and I couldn't take steroids which is an MS treatment so we knew that wasn't going to happen so this, so given that I couldn't take the steroids to offset because of the infection issues and I got my vision back in my right eye and the pain, it felt like there was a very intense pressure over my right eye all the time so not only was I about to lose my vision but the pain wasn't going to go away unless I had, oh vision back pain gone after the second treatment okay so you did a third treatment and what was and from that point I had my energy was just so much better, my ability to walk without the pain which I do whenever possible but that, I have a pretty high conservative threshold for not using my cane because I don't want to fall I don't want, I originally found myself feeling all sorts of peppy and then I would get somewhere and then be there without my support but that, that ability to have confidence that I could walk without my cane and get around and safely was increased dramatically and has incrementally increased with each time I've come back. How many times have you come back? This was my fourth visit Wow. Yeah and it's funny, my son and I, I mean he's, he got in there you know he did this and he's in school, he goes into school for partial day so he can't, he's not able to attend a full day in school and this helped him with his circulation of the problems with his with his hip or he has advanced bone on bone arthritis from his immune system not working and in combination with these infections and it ate away at his joints and his cartilage and it was really remarkable so we went back to hospital special surgery who where his, his doctor is, his hip surgeon or pediatric orthopedic surgeon Dr. Sink looked at his MRIs and said this kid should be this MRI, the kid that goes with this MRI is not walking around like this. He was very surprised to see any regeneration, any improved and circulate. It's just not kind of energy to practice so it was really. That's an amazing miraculous story. And when my health is perfect I will keep coming back. That's even more of a statement. It's for everybody really and I mean that, I could not mean that more sincerely. This is if you're healthy and want to stay that way you know. That's awesome. Thank you so much for coming on and telling our audience about the wonderful success and our little town of Montpelier has this right here down the road on State Street Lucid Path Wellness and Wendy Haley is available to help with people who have illness or who people who are well and want to stay well. It's a miraculous treatment that not many people know about. When I talked to her yesterday I think there are six of these units available in the United States none in the south and we have one right here in Montpelier so after the program we'll have more information listed for you to contact her to be more proactive about keeping you and your loved ones healthy. Thanks for visiting with us. Namaste.