 Welcome to red man group patriarchs edition special edition. It is election Eve. So we're talking the 21 convention and the election with that today's panel. We've got Jeff Putnam. Evolve Phil aka Phil Foster, Michael Foster, no relation and the founder and president of the Manusphere himself, Anthony Johnson. Welcome to the show. I'm really looking forward to kicking this one off, not just because obviously tomorrow is the election. It's the night before the con before the storm. We all know it's going to be insane tomorrow on social media. But I also want to focus on the family aspect of this. And I think that gets lost in the sauce sometimes. So with that, before we dive into all the politics and all that, we just wrapped up 21 convention. Sorry, the 21 summit. It was the three for every man here spoke at the patriarchs events. We're going to go quickly into that. What you spoke about what you take ways were what you notice with the family men. And we're going to dive into the politics out of the house where we can discuss, you know, what were our predictions are as to who's going to win who's going to lose. And you know what the role the family man is and where his focus should be. And I'm telling you right now, while we're focused on the fate of our nation, that starts with a family that doesn't start with Trump or Biden, it's going to be well beyond that. Or maybe it's not, we'll find out. But with that, first time speakers Jeff Putnam, Evolve Phil and Mike Foster. I got all the rookies on here. So we're just going to go around the screen. So Jeff, how was the 21 convention patriarchs edition. And what was your biggest takeaway from meeting with all those family men who got to listen to you speak for the first time. Well, first off, my takeaways were a little too difficult to really put into words, because it's the first time I've ever gone to the convention and my, you know, my inaugural trip was, hey, we're popping your cherry by having you here and speak. So at first it was a little overwhelming. It's weird. I have this giant audience that wants to listen to everything I say for some reason, and I'm still not quite sure why. But when I got, you know, invited by Anthony to come up and speak, I realized that it's not always easy to come to terms with the fact that to some people, whether you believe it or not, you're going to be a mentor. And so when I saw the role that the other speakers and the veteran speakers had taken on with interacting with a lot of the attendees outside of the meeting, you know, outside of the speeches and pool side and bar side and, you know, getting a bite to eat together and just hanging out in between the speakers. I realized that it's real. It's not some lark on, you know, online, like a lot of people see it. You know, when you see, you know, we had one attendee there who brought his two sons, and when you see those two kids in there, you know, and they were not even teenagers yet, I don't think. And you see that level of dedication because that man realized that he could be doing better. And he was there to try to soak up as much as he could so that he could do a good job as a father. And when you see guys breaking down and asking questions and you see the tears in their eyes after some of the speakers, and you're talking about all the things that they're going through, it really opened your eyes to like the reality of the situation. And you see that real lives and real men are really being affected by the work that we do in this sphere. And that right there, it's not only intimidating, but at the same time, it's humbling. And it's also, it's powerful and it makes you feel like you're actually making a difference because, you know, a lot of us, we feel like sometimes we're yelling at the brick wall and wondering if anybody's going to hear us if we're going to get through. But I think it was right after my speech, this one attendee came up to me and he had tears in his eyes, and he was talking about how he was having trouble relating with this kid, right? And he felt like he was, he was messing up and he was missing out because his kid was 14, he didn't, and they didn't have any kind of common interest, right? And just being able to talk to him and show him that he had to get down on his kid's level, you know, and engage in what his kids interested in and show that, you know, your kid, you have to show your kid that what he's interested in is worth you being interested in. That way you could pull him into your sphere, but you have to show him that you're willing to go that way as the father you have to. And to see it kind of light up in his eyes, you know, it was incredible. And, you know, as far as the experience speaking, I do this day, I don't have any idea what I said. I just got up there and started talking. I know text was taking pictures and, hell, I even forgot the question part. As soon as I got done speaking, I just turned around and walked off stage. A shout out to Freda Knows Best for the Super Sticker. Jeff, to your point, with the impact it has on people, this is why, you know, and Anthony, correct me if I'm wrong, but this is why the 21 convention patriarchs was created and instilled. There is issues that fathers are dealing with that single men are not and young men are not. And dealing with your 14-year-old son and how to relate, that's a very father-specific issue. And yet here we have that convention that can address that. That's ready to answer and offer different insights on that. Yeah, my opinion, family, family values is calling for even this family itself and fatherhood have been shit on in the man's sphere for like a long time. Like a second-class citizen kind of thing. And I think the patriarch convention that we do now as an illustration of that moving in a more positive, healthy direction. Like I said in my speech, that the patriarchs are basically a fifth wing of the man's sphere. And your FOE and this show we do sometimes, and especially Ryan Mikler with the Order of Man and Stuff. There are so many communities like that that are focused more on fatherhood. And that's really good. It needs to move in that direction. I think it's like a very, it legitimizes or helps, it makes the manistry a lot more level-headed basically. Because yeah, these issues are serious and they're real and they're specific. Like you wouldn't find that content even at a 21 convention, you know, back in say 2016 or 2014, something like that, you know, or any event for that matter. And now we do. Now it's the whole thing. And having it, you know, you call it the wing, I call it the pillars. I picture a pillar of each of these things and it's just the strength, the rock solid, having these men come together. Hang on, exactly. Exactly. Because fatherhood is a major part of being a man for most men right throughout their life at some point. It's one of the most masculine things you can do, I think, is breathe. Like become a father. So yeah, the fact that it wasn't included in the man's sphere, say in 2015, more formally is fucking ridiculous. You saw a little bit of stuff, you know, married red pill and stuff like that. But it's always looked down upon, you know, whatever community it's always your father's got shit on and that's stupid. So I'm glad that's moving in the right direction now. Happy to see it. Absolutely. And the crew you're assembling, I mean, I haven't even gotten to the floor, Mike. And it's, these are our mother first time speakers. It's great to see the different faces that are representing the message that we're putting out there with that. I mean, so Phil, you know, you've attended 21, but this time you got to take the stage. And not only did you take the stage, your next year's chief patriarch, Tanner is tossing his hand in the baton over. You've got the fire you're carrying it with that torch of the patriarchy. How was it delivering your speech? What were your takeaways? And do you have anything you can give us for next year's what you bring into the stage? Well, it was a real honor first off and just to be able to get up on stage and speak, you know, I'm kind of like Jeff. You kind of get up there and you're kind of like, whoa, for a second and put the brakes on and really process. My discussion was over intensity and how men in this day and age lack intensity from everything from A to Z from gaming, their wife, raising their children, just being men of purpose and having some sort of direction in their life. They struggle. So I've attended several 21 conventions and I would say that with what's gone on in this year with the silly virus and everything like that, Anthony, he nailed it. You know, he not only did one, he did three at one time. He didn't double down, he friggin tripled down, right? So it's kind of like a smack to the face of most folks out there that say, oh, it can't be done. And he did it. So kudos to you, Anthony. Good job. Thanks, man. That was incredible for me to see that go down. And what I take away from the whole convention itself is there's so many different personalities that mix and mingle. And when they all come together and they put their thoughts and ideas together and they get up on stage and they say, hey, you know, try living your life in this direction. Here's a better way to do this. The value in that alone of just getting another perspective from another man, not your father, not someone else that's, you know, a church peer or anything like that. We're talking another man that has experienced certain things that you might be going through in your life. I mean, it's invaluable. You can't calculate it. As far as what I have on tap for next year, I'm still kind of working through that in my mind. I'm still working through that in my mind a little bit there, but I will not disappoint. I can promise you that. I think that the direction of where Anthony has things going as far as the Patriarchy and doing this convention separate or kind of together like he did this year. I think it was a huge success. And I'm glad to see that we all have an opportunity, especially the fathers in the Manusphere of, hey, you know, it's not just about game. It's not just about, you know, women or whatever. It's not just about, you know, being a G status man. It can also be about, you know, being exemplary as a father being top tier material as a family leader. Right. And I think that's a key thing that's being missed in this day and age. So many guys out there, they are their bottom feeders. Let's face it. And they need help. And I look forward to being one of the guys that can give that help to them. You're talking about the bottom feeders. There are a lot of broken men who are trying to raise men and they either jacked it up or they did their best. You know, they didn't jack it up, but they gave all the tools they had and to have the different perspectives of the different men just looking at the diversity of this panel. You know, and we're a microcosm of who took that stage and who was in attendance that didn't take the stage and yet still delivered quality information. It's incredible what you can do to a life and how that can change the next life they're raising. And you know, with the election being tomorrow, the election, we're not so focused on what that's doing to us today. What does that mean to us next year? Where will our country be four years from now? Where will our children be in that future? That's what we're thinking about. We're thinking long term here and the only people who have literal skin in that game is the patriarchs. Is the people who have families or the men who know they want to have families, which is why, you know, the president's dream gets the past to be on the panel. The future patriarchs of our day and age. My honorary patriarch card. Thank you. Vice patriarch. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, we're all one big family anyway. With that, I'm going to toss it to the other foster. Mike, I talk a lot about irrational confidence and that's that's sort of the angle I take on things is I come in, you know, rolling hot and heavy. You did the same thing. And to impress me at that level, I like I look for that and you're you blew through it. I was like, wow, I didn't know what to expect, but you went well beyond it. So for your first time taking it and pretty my first time coming across you and your work was through the convention. And I was very happy to see what it is you delivered. So how was it for yourself and what were your major? Well, man, it's so I grew up doing lots of sales and sales you you learn to mirror the energy right in front of you. And so it certainly helped to have masculine energy all around me guys that are taking it and taking it hard. So it it emboldened me all the more. So I would just say that the conference itself was men being manly and not being macho and fake stuff. I mean, there's disagreements all over the place for all of us. But it was guys after the same thing, which is like, how can I be good at being a man? How can I do this? You know, and so that that really encouraged me. I loved all the guys I met at a great conversation. Guys were like, Hey, Pastor, can I talk to you? And then they take me across the road and I would go to the Brazilian grill and they would pay for my meal and tell me like what's going on in their life and ask me to tell them about Jesus. I'm like, yeah, I'll tell you about Jesus, you know, like, and I get Pinot Noir and it was it was great. But what I found is a lot of guys that understand who the enemy is. And that's the problem. Folks that know who the enemy and feminism and it's a blue pill version, which is just white nights, right? They're the same thing. They mean to destroy us. They want to destroy men. They want to destroy the natural way of life. And they are aggressive and they have much of the weapons, much of the mechanisms and media and all that stuff. So to be with men who understand that that is not some little small part of our culture, but it's like an actual. We're in a very serious cultural war and one that we have to win or they're going to be mutilating our boys because they one day play with the doll and get confused, right? If you have a son, he plays with dolls and it makes you nervous. Just let him play with dolls. Let him play with dolls for a couple of days. Turn to guns. They'll grow out of it. My kids thought they were cats before. We didn't like give them whiskers. You know, we got these guys like Joe Biden talking about mutilating little boys. These people are against us. I don't know what I said. I said something on Twitter that pissed a bunch of people off today. So I'm getting a lot of like. Yes, you did. That is making the rounds, man. I saw a little bit. I was like, I'm not touching that one. Yeah. I love your Twitter, man. I love retweeting like a lot of your shit. You killed it. I don't recommend if you want your mentions to be clean to get involved in that mess. I didn't even know what was going on. Apparently some blue here, blue here, like feminist was coming after me. And anyhow, they hate us. They really do hate us. They're not like every like we have all these guys are being gentlemen's to them. They're not. We can't be gentlemen to them. They are the enemy. They are the enemy and they mean to destroy our way of life. That's what they're trying to do. And so to come down to a conference where at least everyone understands the enemy and understands the stakes, we may disagree on the solution, like take me versus MGTOW. So I'm telling guys, get married, be fathers. And I understand the risk involved. I really do. MGTOW guys wouldn't say that, but at least we've identified the problem where it's hard to get people to see this is a cancer. This is a poison. This is a threat to your daughter. They're going to tell her it's not good to be a woman. They're going to tell her that she has to compete with men. A woman can't. I had this girl ask me once, what's the difference between men and women? I said, all right, I'll teach you right now. You hit me as hard as you can in my face. And then I'll hit you as hard as I can in your face. Right. And we'll find out the difference is that with this, with when we're men, we're dangerous. We could kill you, man. We're not the same. You're awesome at being a woman. I'm awesome at being a man. Let's just do that. But they're trying to twist everything right now. So at the conference, I was, I was refreshed because I don't have to prove the problem. And I feel like that's half more than half the battle, right? If we're going to stay in the sort of matrix analogy, it, part of it's getting to see the real world. Now, will they stay in the real world? Will they fight? That's a whole, that's the, in the movie, the matrix is a whole another part of the plot, right? But if we can at least see them like things aren't what you think they are. And once we get there, then we can move the conversation forward. So for me to have people that were like minded in that way was really refreshing. And so it's funny as a Christian, as an unashamed, not compromising, not backing off Christian, I could have real conversations because everyone was trying to figure out what is reality of the circumstance. We're not pretending. It's not show. It's not fake. And that is refreshing to anyone that's been living in this world that is just plastic and nonsense and constant media show. I mean, look, I know I don't want to get too far into the Trump, but guys, like if Hillary Clinton came, couldn't be Trump Biden Harris is going to beat Trump. You look at the media, this is all show. That's how far down this is, you know, this is, this is like prison planets. Right. These people are nuts. The media is so far gone. So to be with people that have detached themselves from social media in terms of like they can see the real from the fake, very refreshing. And so it was a good experience. And I look forward to watching Phil bear all the weight next year and let him pave the way for all of us. So Anthony, I want to toss it to you before we move to diving into the election tomorrow. I wanted to bring this up to you. Quick comment, though. Michael is a well-spoken man. That was a really good model. I really, I would clap, but I can't, but that was fucking awesome. And it really, I mentioned it too because he added a new layer. I think he's adding a layer to how I think about the comments that the problem is already, I think all the speakers, to restate what Michael was saying with how I'm interpreting it, all the speakers and even I would say 90% of the attendees are facing in the same direction. Like, but I think it's what he means by understanding the problem. And I haven't really thought about the convention intellectually like that, but it hits the nail on the head, like he's right. And it is refreshing to be around it. And I'm really happy to see that in a first-time speaker about his experience like that. And I think it's what you guys have been probably feeling for a couple of years now, 21, even since I was a teen on our, or Zach, sorry. I got to change it. Strike one. Strike one. It's my phone doing it. It's my phone. I wanted to piggyback off what Mike said. And that's actually what I wanted to pitch to you. You know, he spoke about Trump. I've seen all the men on here reference Trump. Every man who took the stage that was a speaker, I'm thinking is Trump, pro-Trump. And then you see all these rallies, all these trucks, the Trump train riding through. Trump represents masculinity. Our version of masculinity. True masculinity, red pill masculinity. It gave me a sense of hope when I made that connection. When I looked at Trump versus Biden and the man versus the man, I looked at a male, a man, and then this new male, open mouth smile, new male. And I realized there's more positivity and support for red pill masculinity than I think we give credit. And what do you have to say about that? Because you've collected all these speakers, based off political affiliation, yet here we are, all aligned in one cause. No, that's a really good point, man. The other day on my newsletter that I sent out to the 2011 convention and 2011 university when I endorsed Trump, I did like a full mail out to everybody that I had access to. That means a lot to me, obviously. One of the points I brought up is that the man of sphere, there's a certain figure in the man of sphere who's notorious for trying to keep the man of sphere not just apolitical in terms of like, you know, people are, everyone's walking more or less, right? If you're a communist, we don't like you. I think you're fucking asshole, maybe, but you're still, no one's going to kick out of the man of sphere for it or socialist or something. But by far and large, men of the man of sphere do support Donald Trump. But what I was bringing up is that there's a certain figure in this man of sphere community for a long time now who really was hyper-vigilant to the point of absurdity and keeping the man of sphere apolitical, like super, super hyper-political. It was just like politics didn't even exist or wasn't an issue. And I think it's ridiculous because there is a lot of common ground with what you see going on in this government. There's a respect for masculinity separate from Trump and then Trump also is exuding that. In his own kind of like, super brazen, hyper-alpha kind of way. I call him an apex-alpha male, and I mean it. In terms of his ability to just dominate so many different families and people and organizations, like it's incredible. But yeah, there's a lot of common grounds and make them great again. I'm not wearing it, but it's behind me. I think the pink one, I think the pink one behind me. A couple of black ones too. There's a lot to that, but I think part of it is there's a common respect for a common sense masculinity and common sense femininity. At least there's a much bigger window on that in what you're seeing with Trump and Maga and the kind of modern, the modern anti-New York conservative Republican party. And the opposite is during the Democrats. Jack Murphy is called, and I think accurately one of our buddies and speakers, he is called the Democrat party, the modern. In terms of modern Democratic party, it's against masculinity and it's 100% feminism. Feminism is not entirely excluded in the Republican party under Trump, but it's a lot more acceptable to not be a feminist. Trump is not a feminist. He said that a lot about a year or two ago, as well as in 2008 in an interview, but about in 2018 he was being interviewed by Pierce Morgan. And if Pierce Morgan asked him, you consider yourself a feminist and Trump said flat out, no, I don't consider myself a feminist. Trump is the leader not only of the executive branch of the federal government, but he's the leader of the Republican party. And it's actually to actively explicitly distance himself from feminism and then on top of that, be as masculine as he is in his own kind of Trumpian way, like a mega gigachat alpha. That's really positive for men and it does, it highlights exactly that common ground you're talking about. And also even when the convention, like, you know, I've been diligent in keeping it like not a political conference, but I have no interest in no intent and I'm happy to see so much support for Trump there. As well as in the wider like I did a poll on 21 studios and it was like overwhelmingly Trump. Kanye beat Biden in the poll or 2000 votes. So yeah, there's a lot of common ground and a lot of it comes down, I think just Trump himself, him making the party more aggressive, higher testosterone, and then there's just a greater respect for common sense as simple over simplest because that sounds common sense masculinity and common sense femininity such as not chopping your child's dick off when they play with a doll like Michael was talking about. That is fucking crazy and that's actually endorsed now by Joe Biden, this kind of gender transition stuff. It's insane. It's anti scientific and barbaric to the extreme and you see that now being embraced by the leader of the Democratic Party. It's fucking crazy. It's actually gotten like, you know, 30, 40 years ago, I don't think the party is running or near this different, but at this point one is, you know, welcoming to men and masculinity. One is welcoming to women who want to be women. One is welcoming to America and family values and the other is the opposite. Democrats have become anti-family, anti-man, anti-masculinity, anti-femininity, anti-America and it's gotten that polarized at this point and that different which ultimately I think is a good thing. We'll see. I don't know if I'm running up in the tangent here with it, but... No, it's a good tangent to run off on. You know, I immediately thought of Jeffrey Younger which would be a YouTube series of its own about the young boy who the parents are split, the mother wanted to call him a daughter, the father a son because he's a young man, he is a son and then the Dallas judge ruled in favor of the mother even after some litigation and whatnot and now this father has to call his son Luna, a daughter. I cannot wrap my head around the disgust and this is really happening and that's why I reached out to you about this episode. I want to talk about families and what's going on and why we need to be paying attention to this because I could not... I have a son and a daughter and if Jackie and I were to split and all of a sudden my son... it doesn't compute man. It's just horrific and that's truly barbaric what's happening. Why does the local community rip the judge out of the court? I mean serious question, like that's insane. Exactly and that's the first question I want to toss to the gents and to the panel here is what role has this election played in your home? What have you processed or what have you filtered to the kids? What do you think your duty is when it comes to politics and family and yourself as a man? I've gone through a transition where I'll tell you the truth is that in 2016 I voted third party, I voted for Darren Castle and I was a libertarian for a real long time and but I voted for Darren Castle because the reality is I thought Trump was just a New York liberal and I didn't trust him. I didn't think he was going to keep his promise and my wife and I we didn't communicate properly and she ended up voting for Trump on accident which was really funny which I'm glad she did. It was South Carolina so it didn't really matter but then within six months after the election six months into his presidential first year I was like wait Trump's not who I thought he was and then I thought I had been cured of conspiracy theory but then my conspiracy conspiracy theories it was so obvious that they were trying to discredit this man the whole Russian collusion all this stuff and then it started to open your eyes just like how deep the rot is in our country and just how much they hate men so you look at a guy like David French who's a famous author news writer he hates Trump, he's a never-trumper and he hates Trump for the reason that white knights hate real men because Trump is good with women doesn't mean that he's a moral I don't think the way he acts is moral when it comes to women in general I disagree with that but women like him they respect them and they think well no they don't actually respect them no, no they do actually they're with them it's not just for money it's because he got the money and because he has the power because he has the charisma you watch Trump talk to people and you think you know what Trump is good with people and so they hate him because he's everything they thought they could be by following this little blue pill mold and it didn't work out and so they hated Trump and Trump was part of me getting deeper into red pill sexuality I remember just recognizing like why do these guys hate this guy so much and I'm like because they envy him because they're weak and he's strong and so for me it blew up it blew up all my categories right like the entire like who were for and who were against like take Lindsey Graham Lindsey Graham like kind of a blue dog whatever and then suddenly Trump he's against Trump and then there's Lindsey Graham 2.0 he's got swagger now and he's like realizing wait a second this guy's a winner and he wants to be with a winner and so like there's Republicans I'm totally against and some I'm for and everything's being redrawn like the whole political lines and that's what's happening right now in the church that's what's happening in culture like the old categories just blew up with this a lot and it's crazy because it's like Gamergate the different things that led to Trump being president are kind of mind blowing things like it seems like so long ago like I've not heard that it feels like a century so much has happened between then and now taking sexual like assault like it energized a bunch of people and they realize these folks are gonna lie about us and they're gonna destroy us and there are enemies and it redpilled a huge group of people who weren't open to these ideas and suddenly you've got people like Candace Owens who's in transition David Rubin who's in transition these folks that are becoming increasingly conservative and they're moving directions taking up causes that they hadn't previously taken up and so for me like everything's up for grabs where things are gonna fall and it's made me a little more bold to be on this podcast like Anthony's FFFFF like now I'm gonna hear about that and Hunter's and Angela's Strike 2 but it's made me more willing to he can't even share my speech with anyone I did say that I was like this is great I'm gonna share this to everybody and then Jeff kept talking I was like but the reality is that we're all realizing like suddenly the enemy became clear overnight and it was elite power hungry governmental tyrants we don't give a crap if they're Democrats or Republicans but we realize these people want to control us they want to take away our freedom they don't want us to be fathers they want us to be parents and then they want to change it from parents to guardians and when we are guardians are children then we're just looking over them for the government government wants to be nanny we are in a war for our life that's what people don't realize like this is serious crap look at the level of lies going on right now the level of propaganda is mind blowing we are a piece we're like a wash cloth and we're in the laundry the washer of propaganda right now it's so nuts they talk about how awesome Joe Biden is Joe Biden is basically a retard like everyone looks at him he's got dementia he can't get a sentence out right he's an old man his children should be ashamed for putting him up there they have they do not love their father or grandfather no one would put some up on this stage like that the guy is like it's weakening at Bernie's it's a dead body and they're acting like oh he's so bold no he's not this guy is boring to everybody there's no one excited about this guy he's the small guy man the democrats hate him too and people were excited about Hillary Clinton they're not excited about Joe Biden and we're watching this lie and a lot of us I think this is an opportunity to wake up more people and just say you know what because there's a lot of pastors that are scared to come out and support Trump and they're like so people are trying to shame me online I'm like it's not going to work so he slept with the prostitute like yeah I'm against that this is about policies there's one guy he wants little kids to be mutilated abortion, more taxes more government control and another guy doesn't what's hard about this I'm going to vote for the guy that's not going to do those things why would I not why would I not endorse that guy this is obvious I think it's a sin to vote for Joe Biden I think it's wrong you know a serial killer babysit it's bad this is bad and so for me I've like really changed from let's vote for Darren Castle will be a third party candidate and teach the Republicans to give us a real candidate and you had to have a guy like Trump combine high deck the party which is super manly I'm all about it like I'm not going to parlor screw them they're not taking over Twitter they're going to have to ban me I'm not going to go to some weak social media like these guys they're trying to like no guys like Trump understand it's not evade it's invade it's takeover that's manly I love it so Mike I'm really glad you made this show and normal so four minutes when I let people go in a little rant like for these I give them four minutes and then I'll just jump in and cut them off that was so well said that dude you could have gone for another 15 minutes and I would not have stopped you that was perfect excellent execution there I was enjoying it that was great I think you said something too that I want to toss to Jeff or Phil you know you said you're allowed to take your stand and I think not only has the identity the enemy been identified but we're allowed to say the name that's what I that drew me to Anthony when he said feminism is the the pink KKK I was like that dude just he'd skipped steps one through five and went to ten like he's straight up called feminism out by name and now we can go by name that's a bad thing but before we kind of pussyfooted around the issue so Phil both you and Jeff man I'll toss this one to Jeff you both and one of the things that I've aligned myself with you both you know very clearly is because you just say the thing there's no pussyfoot around it here is my issue directly there's no fluff there's nothing to be processed or filtered you know you just call Biden the retard I mean there's no room for anybody to look around how you feel about this issue so Jeff when it comes to how you feel about politics and your experience I don't want to hear another pro-trump monologue how do you process that to your family you know we just had Stevie share that his child voted for the first time that was two votes for Trump when you shared this with your children you've got nine of them and they're all coming up and eventually they'll be voting how do you process that to them how do you tell them here's where I stand here's why I stand here and here's what I want you to look at with the future of our country when it comes your time to vote because you cannot tell them who to vote for that's the American right that they have to vote for who they want but as a proper as a proper patriarch you should have them looking at what's best for the country your family your values your morals how do you go about doing that with your your army of children well I'm probably the only one here that isn't going to set that that will say that I'm not pro-trump but I'm also not pro-Biden I'm pro-good all right if I like if good had aligned with Biden okay cool vote for that guy if good had aligned with Charles fucking Manson okay I'll vote for that guy the fact of the matter is you know with my kids I'm not going to know that I did a good job raising them until about 10 years after they're grown and out because they have to go out and screw up and recover and make sure they implement all the lessons that I taught them but the way my wife and I run our house we have set standards of behavior that you have to follow all right to be considered a decent human being you know I have a gay son all right I've got some of my kids go to church some of them don't my wife's a Christian I'm not we are probably the most diverse out there just random hodgepodge family you can never find yet somehow we managed to work together because at the end of the day there's a common good right my gay son all right he's 15 when he came out to me and my wife you know he goes I just didn't want you guys to be upset as long as you don't you know marry an NFL fan we're good you know but in all reality my kids understand that what you identify as whether you identify as gay straight or whatever that has nothing to do with the content of your character the content of your character is what's going to drive the future forward in whatever direction you happen to be heading in all right if you're a crappy person then content of your character is going to dictate the kind of future you create and so it's not so much as that we have this active all right it's election year we have to tell you which policies are good which policies are bad yada yada yada kind of crap no it's a long process of growth and improvement and oh okay I see where we screwed up here let's go back and correct this let's let's identify what was wrong with this and forward so that we're creating we're creating adults we're not raising children we're raising adults we're raising young men and a young woman and the way that we raise them is all going to depend on our own actions and so for your question of how are we going to vote you know because I can't tell them what to vote for well knowing what you know knowing the fact of this candidate versus this candidate or whatever you know what they stand for you know what they stand on you know what they believe in can you truly say with the morals and the values that we've raised you with can you truly say that you're behind that 100% and they have to make that choice if they can okay if they can okay whether they can or can is going to depend on how well my wife and I have instilled the values and the morals and that we raise them with right how we treat them how we expect them to treat each other how we expect them to treat us I can't talk to my 6 year old son or you know my 9 year old son or you know or my sorry my 11 year old son about Joe Biden wanting to be on board with cutting a little boy's dick off because he decided one day to play with dolls now my kid hasn't taken my 6 year old hasn't taken his fucking Spider-Man costume off in like 4 years I don't call him Peter Parker I just let him be and one day he'll grow out of it but you know I'm kind of like Foster over here you know you can give his kids whiskers when they thought they were cats but it all boils down to how you're raising them all right what are your values and what you set the standard as what is good versus evil because right now you've got Joe Biden turned around and you have all the Biden supporters that are saying men are evil masculinity is evil being anti-abortion is evil I hate to break it to you ladies but abortion is not a form of birth control it's just not what it is alright but I raise my kids pretty much on the same standard that you guys do good is good evil is evil and we don't change the definition of things alright we're not changing the definition of races we're not changing the definition of Nazi we're not changing the definition of man or woman we raise them in reality and we show them what reality really is and so I don't say well this evil little man over here Biden or the Democratic Party or whatever that's really good because of progress and feelings and emotions no if this is screwed up I tell them that it's screwed up if they ask why I try to explain it on a level that they can understand but no I'm not for any politician my discussion with Jack Murphy when he came on my podcast you know it's not Republicans versus Democrats it's not red versus blue it's good versus evil now which side are you going to be on are you going to be the side on the same side as degeneracy that's calling for you know our boys to you know have their dicks chopped off because they made a choice when they were six they're not even allowed to buy cigarettes now until they're 21 but they're somehow capable of making a decision to change their gender when they're six no that's bullshit and it's ridiculous and so you know how many preconceived notions you just shattered by saying that you are not going to choose based off party people will see this and they're going to say you've got a bunch of bearded white dudes together that are pro-trump and they're rednecks and they hate women and that's how they'll see this you're gay and you told him you will not use your sexual preference for a party there are people who will say because you're gay you have to vote for this person you must define your vote based off your sexual orientation of preference and you're the father here is saying no you will define what you find to be more aligned with what is morally good what aligns with your values that is how you'll base it it's I did not know that about you we're very similar in that I've shared I don't vote on party I vote on who's best for America I want America to win if that's a third party out of nowhere that dude's getting my vote Democrat my vote Republican they get my vote I want America to win and therefore it's who's the best person for the country and you hit the nail on the head with that one at the end of the day let's say Biden wins tomorrow I mean I know I've got a better chance of driving a needle up a nun's ass with a sledgehammer but if Biden wins tomorrow it's not going to change shit in my house I was saving that one for Phil oh that was my next thing was tossing to him well it's not going to change anything in my house because tomorrow my kids will still be getting the same lessons that my wife and I teach them and by the time Biden's out of office which all of my kids will still be living at home majority of the three that are gone now all I'm doing is creating a better generation of people to go out there and correct that fuck up well so this is a debate we should get into I think after Phil gets into it just like me and Michael have a different opinion on this alright so Phil yo Trump wins life is good Biden wins what happens in the foster home how will the outcome of this election impact you will you be in the street screaming will you be crying or will you be carrying on what's going to happen in the foster home well nothing I mean life's going to go on you know I have some concerns obviously that he wins over another because you know I'm in business for myself you know some of his policies will affect my business the availability of certain chemicals and stuff like that will disappear a lot of the social institutions that he will keep in place talking about Biden here you know the big thing in my house see it's kind of I filter everything in our home so there we don't have news on TV here we don't watch TV period you know so a lot of the information that my child would get would be through peer interaction at school and that's a very very conservative school that she goes to as well it's private now there are some Democrat folks that go and liberal folks that go to her school and there's been some situations arise where I guess it was last week I was with a friend and they were all riding together and so and so it said hey you know I hear are you going to vote for Biden or Trump and our daughter said well of course if I could vote tomorrow I'd vote Trump and she's 16 years old and needless to say I mean we live in a very conservative area we live in Texas so and she goes to a private school very very conservative in that fashion as well and I just I discuss certain things with her she approached me about abortion I guess through social media she saw some things about abortion and how he was Biden is for abortion so I explained to her how abortion really works and she goes do they really abort babies that late and I said yes baby they do well how do they do that so well they start clipping parts off the body and then dismember the body while it's still alive in the mom and take it out and she just could not believe that but see that's a hard discussion that you have to have with your children you know I've got a 16 year old daughter you know and you know thankfully still no premarital sex that I'm aware of because I'm all over but you know the these conversations need to happen and will I be out on the street braining of Biden wins no will I be concerned for each and every one of us that are on this screen right now absolutely I see if guys are saying and you see it all the time oh you know hard times make strong men blah blah blah we haven't seen hard times if this man gets elected because his policies alone will torpedo what little financial institution we have left the rest of the way underwater it'll be gone I'm a very money motivated individual I like to live comfortably I like to provide for my family I don't want my wife and my child to worry for anything and you know tonight at dinner before this red man group we made my wife discussing something and she says what happens tomorrow because I know no matter what you got me you got us we don't have to worry about anything so I'm fine one way or the other I will tell you that we will all have to really start working on thinking outside the box on how we take care of our business and I think that you know Jeff to Jeff's point of you know teaching your children to do the right thing and setting that example for your children and saying okay there's a better way to do this and let's try it this way that will have effects down the road but how will the next four years be affected right you know what kind of real hard times what kind of real screws will get tightened down on you you know and as a man as the family leader as your family's patriarch you are in charge of all the finances in my opinion that's how I run my house anyways it all falls squarely on your shoulders so how you deal with that is really it's going to be a good test and I think there's going to be a lot of tense folding if Biden wins to be honest with you a lot of guys that are there right now will not be there in two months and it's going to be a sad situation a lot of the policies that Biden has are what concerns me the fuel of hate the Democratic party is so full of hate you know these people have worked we've seen it you know what limited news media I get through Twitter and seeing people's posts and stuff like that of these towns and cities just being gutted by fire and looting and now everybody's in this huge panic oh we're going to just board up the whole country because of this election tomorrow are you for real are you for real that you can control the people of America with that much fear that they're going to shut down and board everything up it's insane that fear is fueled from the masks oh bad virus better cover up it's like it's almost like a bad movie right or am I just completely crazy it's a muzzle dude it's worse than a bad movie that's what I call it yeah do you have something you wanted to throw into the table yeah Phil actually kind of brought it up I think he had the nail in the head some of it I can't remember the exact quote of it but you brought up a point if Biden wins it's not just so buddy everyone here is older than me you guys have been through more presidential elections than me at least maybe a hundred you're about my age maybe not but I don't think this election has anything you're out man if this wasn't your show you'd be muted yeah that one went right through where's the axe that one was fucking buttered up that just went smooth out of the door sorry Zach I'm just trying to figure out how he thinks I am you're not 30s for sure I think yeah you can go to hell anyway all over the place anyway what I want to say though you know I think the only election on record that has anything to do with 2020 is 2016 this election has nothing to do just like 2016 with 2012, 2008, 2004 2019, 1996 1992, 1988 this has nothing to do with any of that shit this is something that we've never seen before and I think for example if Biden if Trump loses I don't think it's going to happen but if it does it will be open season on all of us on the anyone who's conservative, anyone who's Republican anyone who's not a feminist, anyone who's not intersectional, anyone who's not down with 500 genders anybody who's to the right of like fucking Joseph Stalin if you're going to get kicked off the internet we're all going to get Alex Jonesed they're not going to be scared of anything because it won't even be a Biden's policies I mean they're bad like Phil was talking about it doesn't matter though I don't think we'll make it a month never mind six months or four years that's nuts that dude is like what Michael called him a retard he has dementia I think he's retarded although it's funny to hear that I think he's I think his brain is falling apart he has like Alzheimer's or something like that he's fucking it's a total shit show I mean this guy is a disaster of a candidate he makes Hillary look like a good candidate which is really hard to do but it's going to get bad I don't think they will do everything they can to make sure that we never ever ever how did that happen what the fuck that was me I think I'm on your profile to your point no reward was just removed from facebook no warning he doesn't even know what the hell he did it's not just going to be facebook and twitter dude it's going to be paypal it's going to be payment processors it's going to be mailchimp it's going to be email providers they're going to kick us off everything they won't be afraid of anything that's true but it won't even matter because he's so old and fucked up in the head he'll do what he's told until he fucking they 25th amendment him or he resigns then you have president Kamala and whoever the fuck her vice it's going to be bad real bad I don't think a 2024 election under a Biden Kamala presidency it won't be a free election it'll be a banana republic the country will collapse in civil war and fuck knows what even this year I think with covid it's not as bad as it's been it's been nothing the food never ran out if those food trucks ever fucking stopped it in grocery stores shit's going to get bad real fucking quick way worse than what we've seen with BLM and a T5 even these cities burning to the ground imagine that in the suburbs not just the cities everywhere all around you this country could go to the Soviet Union it can fall apart not just Balkanized Romney and Obama and McCain Obama and you know carrying Bush back and forth it's all bullshit it's all the same shit every fucking time I was like Michael Foster I never thought I'd vote for Republican in my fucking life outside of Ron Paul in a primary and that's why I almost didn't vote for Trump until the pussy tapes came out that's when I snapped and I realized that he wasn't a New York liberal or an old Democrat or something shit like that this guy was this guy was his own man he was going to do whatever the fuck he wanted that's what got me excited I was like this guy is not owned by anybody it's like a wrecking ball like a bulldozer so yeah this election is super serious and unfortunately most of the public has been gas lit and you know wolf cry I guess you'd call it cry and wolf for so long that's been said about every election for fucking ever it's all bullshit 2008 between McCain and Obama it's the same exact candidate with different colors skin and different party it's all bullshit this is real this is freedom versus tyranny deep state kind of stuff they're like a fucking business right now they'll be fed with a baseball bat the minute the deep state gets power too soon if ever I think even they're going to go fucking nuts we're not just going to hit economic depression they're going to crash the stock market they're going to collapse economies they're going to crash the dollar we're going to have a digital dollar like Nancy Pelosi was talking about we're going to have one more currency bad shit that doesn't go away for fucking hundreds of years so to me that's where this is at like it's that bad pro-america, anti-america, good versus evil do you want two genders or two thousand that's your election tomorrow two thousand genders or two genders those are your fucking options it's that bad when I look at the fellow parents that I'm associated with through youth sports the people that I know but I don't really know but not friendly a lot of my friends are through FOE through connections I made online through school but a lot of the parents who my kids play sports with your friends on Facebook whatever I kind of see what they're up to they see what I'm up to and I see a lot of them waking up to this I see a lot of them like whoa whoa whoa and I think they're starting to realize how far that reach is gone and I don't think it's too late but I do think action needs to be taken now and I think with this being the patriarch's episode with all these men who have children and these families what does it look like what actions are you taking how are you preparing why are you doing what you're doing what are you looking out for from you know we're talking presidential election but even at the communal level you know your community you're quick the people you see daily where do you stand with them where do they stand with you who's going to be the one dropping your name in the hat that anonymous box hey you should go check out this house have you made it have you connected have you made your networks there are tribal networks popping up everywhere a lot of people though they're isolated they think everything's going to be fine they're the same people that when a hurricane rolls in and they lose power they have nothing they have no food they have no security they have no backup they have no cash on hand they have nothing because they think at all times the cops can be called they're going to get to them they can go to the grocery store it's going to feed them and they are fucking McDonald's dude there won't even be cops to call if Biden gets in it's already too busy it's defund the police and abolish the policemen that's how insane this shit is but this conversation and tomorrow's election and then let's say the next week or so that's when I really hope that this connection this conversation really hits home you have to be a sovereign individual go ahead Mike I'll jump in on this because am I muted? no? because I don't know what happens after Trump I think Trump wins tomorrow I think it's going to be pretty clear that he's going to win but I don't know how much time we have and I've been praying like Lord give me a few more years because frankly we're moving here's, I'll tell you straight up what I see coming I see a return to a sort of city-state situation and I've looked at small communities where I can get involved locally where I can get to know people where we can get behind the small businesses where there's a lot of advantages to the area I'm in both geographically politically, all that sort of stuff I've had to think that way and so I've been working towards actually starting churches and building all sorts of relationships for when I get kicked off the internet for when I which I think is inevitable I think me getting kicked off the internet is absolutely inevitable and when they delete us on MailChimp you have to take your online network offline, you have to you actually have to know people and we're looking at a farm with 27 acres yesterday we're legit working at some real long-term solutions because I don't know what's coming our way I know this much that if we have liberals that are involved in our economy our economy is going to do a sort of trouble things, you're going to need to be able to depend on yourself I've been reading this great book called The Mandibles by Lionel Shriver it's kind of a libertarian dystopia so what happens if they get in charge of our they take full control of our economy as they have been increasingly so I think you have to take your you have to know people in real life you have to that was one thing I really enjoyed about our time at the conference even when I was talking to Jack Donovan he said in the Manusphere you got guys that talk a big game and then they're not what they say they are there's a reason I'm not talking about how to be there's a reason I don't talk about how to be rich and how to be I'm not out of the inner Cortez I'm not your health guy Phil's going to make me beautiful but I'm going to stay in my lane but you got to know are these people your actual are they your allies or not and you've got to build those local things that's what I'm doing right now I'm working really hard to build real things physically and I love the internet but they can kill us on the internet there's a kill switch get it now meet everyone you can get their phone number build your connections because who knows what's coming our way I actually have to go I have to run guys I'm so sorry but you guys are awesome and please Jeff vote Trump come on you don't got to apologize Mike you dropped enough knowledge for this entire episode and maybe another one that was fantastic I appreciate you making the time to come out here as pagans go you're my favorite alright take it I'm going to piggyback off that a little bit you know he was talking about the need to meet people importantly he was talking about those who are real and those who are talking about a life they want to have but they aren't living you see on social media what happened when corona hit what happened all that abundance what happened to all that living large what happened to all that scarcity go out there get after it they fucking scattered like roaches when the lights went on they were so afraid what about the profiles who stood there when corona hit the first thing I did was run a campaign to raise money for people who lost their jobs the hat that Jeff Putnam is wearing right now you can only get it's from Phil Foster you can only get a few seats Anthony you brought all of us together so it's very obvious where you stand in the real world real world with regards to you know your reputation and being who you say you are it's important that people watching this you know we don't just say hey get on the email list you know in case they get banned and it's like a joke to get you in the list it's a no shit we're doing this and this is what we're putting out into the world but we are on somebody else's platform and if Twitter doesn't like us and you're following somebody who's a fake and you're supporting them and they turn out to be an absolute fraud you followed fake and now you're left in the dust when they leave you're looking for that where's that guy to help me be abundant where's that guy to help me when times are hard oh he left you stranded what kind of fucking leader leaves their man following them the men that need them stranded a shitty one a fucked up one that's him and that's not what we're seeing here that's not what we're seeing through the 21 convention and I hope a lot of people follow going through the dns making your social network meeting people in person you're gonna need that when shit hits the fan I have people in my phone I can call that will show up they're not just fucking people that I see online that have great photos they're taking inside these fake fucking planes that are sitting on a field somewhere it's real that's why I really like the tape brothers whenever they fly they'll turn their phone and they're like hey I'm actually in the air but not a single person on this panel is a caricature of the life they want to live and when it comes to politics when it comes to being a patriarch you have to live and embody that message and if you want things to change you've got to be the person who's like hey I'm not gonna wear my mask at the field with my kids and maybe the next dad takes theirs off they're like yeah you know what you're right this is bullshit and it's like you give them permission to break ranks and start living a little more free a little more independent and that's missing I think a lot of people are looking to these people living these fake lives and they're gonna be fucking stranded if I could have been an anecdote when COVID began I was never pro-mask but I just kind of stayed out of it and it wasn't really any mandates back then it's not in Florida and it was even back then it was kind of sparse there's over time that shit got crazier 14 days to slow the spread and masks kind of crept in but eventually I became very anti-mask not even that far into it I don't know how far weeks or whatever a month or so I just realized this is really fucking sketch this is a slippery slope to hell and back this has got to stop so I became very anti-mask and I was calling myself an anti-mask and I was very open about it I even ended up burning a bunch of them on 4th of July but I actually got yelled at by a longtime attendee of the convention an old friend of mine who's in a business owner he's considered very irresponsible and I had the exact opposite opinion I was like this is exactly what I should be doing as a small business owner not just as an American, not just as a young man but as a business owner I need to be a leader and be an example and these masks are fucking super sketchy and super dangerous like this has very bad long-term effects on the country on a population, it's demoralizing it's a muzzle, they're evil I fucking believe that at the bone and the band aid stuff is super fucked up it's evil, pure fucking tyrannical evil and so anyway I just kind of came to mind with the real world stuff because to me I'm a real world entrepreneur I don't hide behind a I'm not selling e-books behind a fucking cartoon someone made for me on Twitter since day one as a business owner I've had my real name attached to my business and as a pick-up artist the men's rights and red pill all this stuff the whole fucking time I never was behind hidden hiding and then came out and he's out of the closet so to speak so yeah I just came to mind when you brought that up with being who you are being real and not hiding by this fake crap the mask thing was an example that I have to be real, I have to be who I am and that meant burning the masks that meant making fun of mask people mask Nazis and shit because I hate it and I think it's super fucking sketch and every business owner in this country should be like that to my opinion Phil, go ahead Jeff there's something I said earlier you know Biden's talking about this national mask mandate right and I have this problem with authority of any kind I lost my job because I refuse to wear a mask and I refuse to shake my beard and they just dumped a whole bunch of other shit on me and blamed it on Corona but they were constantly coming after me once I basically told HR to go and fuck themselves it didn't hurt me, I'll make more money than my old boss now sitting in my underwear I'm wearing pants now I'll say that but in reality my wife and I went out shopping today and we were picking up some stuff at the mall and my wife sees the sign my wife's very anti-confrontational and that's why she's got me around she doesn't have to get into the confrontations but they have signs that say it's required well I'm just not going to and see I've made the mistake before of going to that same store and said excuse me do I have to wear a mask to come in here and the lady says yes I was like okay I'll just wait outside it was no big deal at the time but what I realized is that right now while we've got Trump and we don't have this hardcore boot to neck mask regime like we're starting to see in Spain and Italy and other places if you don't ask permission no one says shit to you today I've never asked permission or can I come in here without a mask once I realized that and it was very early on even when corona first came out I was going you know what I might just buy me a bottle of hand sanitizer just to be case because I got kids I don't want to get them sick but as it went on it kept getting deeper and deeper you know millions of people are just dropping dead in the street like Contagion, the Matt Damon movie or whatever I stopped just giving a shit I figured if they would tell me what's it going to come down to is it going to have to physically remove me or make me do something I don't want to do because I'm for anything until someone tells me I have to do it or I have to do it and then it's like okay well fuck that I'm not going to do it it's just the way I am and you know I walk into a store and I see a guy handed out a mask at the gate and he goes here you need one like now your rules don't apply to me and I just keep on walking and no one says shit because they're so goddamn anti-confrontational I think their only anti-confrontational is because they don't have a regime to back them up so yeah I see your side of it where and Phil's side of it post Trump you know if we end up in a Biden era and people feel like they're empowered you know by the regime who's got their back you know the whiny little bitches who think they're going to control everything we do then yeah maybe they'll start to be a little more confrontational because you see that and these blue ran cities and blue ran states and counties where the police are told by the mayor stand down you know we have a sheriff here God bless him I love him I actually put out a thing when shit if shit gets rowdy we'll call on citizens to come and help but until then we've got this and so nothing gets out of hand here is because you know the residents don't feel like their bullshit is being backed up and I do think now seeing after what you just said if Biden and Harris you know get elected and get into office there will be that sense of okay well we've got this shit now now you're kind of attitude behind it and they will try to really enforce the shit so yeah I'm going to retract my position from earlier Jeff I think you need to unplug and plug in your mic you got some crazy feedback going it didn't happen until Anthony laughed in his microphone let me meet my let me know if it goes well yeah shit totally mine Jeff I retract my previous statement you need to get one of the toss this your way you business owner with a daughter you gotta think you squared away you know you've been taking the right steps for your family to put yourself in the right position what have you found yourself focusing on a little bit more you know with your daughter with what she's seeing through the limited social media she has you know you said that in the car ride somebody was getting on about Trump has she faced anything in the school system you might my kids are homeschooled Jeff I believe yours are homeschooled so we're not we're not facing the same thing she is being out out in the wild you know has she had any feedback like that or anything online it's interesting because her like I said she goes to a private school so the feedback that she gets is generally from one or two kids and interesting enough Anthony like this one their divorce kids raised by a single mother so it's that that feminist value so Vada my daughter will go to school and she'll talk about kind of like how we live our life you know and everything flows through dad and you know dad makes the final decision like friends will want her to come and do something well let me ask let me ask my mom and then she'll talk to dad and then I'll let you know and they just these kids their minds are blown well why is why do they why do you have to talk to your dad about why can't you why can't your mom just answer the question because it's dad's house and that's how that's how that's how he runs his house because dad is the fucking law that's right that's right baby they can't they don't know how to they struggle with it you know and these kids they just don't understand why I say no I say no a lot she gets a lot more noses and a lot more yeses but the interesting thing is is that some of the confrontation that she has now is being 16 and hey well why don't you pick me up before school because she just got a driver's license and we'll go have coffee before school dad says I can't do that yet and well why you got your license well it's that's just how it is you know and these kids they really struggle with this thing and a lot of these kids unfortunately they have parents that are both working and mom and dad when they are home they got their face on their phone mom's like scrolling and dad's over there picking his nose watching sports right so there really is no parent teaching these kids how to behave kind of like what Jeff was alluding to earlier you know they're teaching them right from wrong and it's a really a sad situation as far as politics go you know she's only had that she's only brought up that one instance I really believe in my heart though that no matter what happens tomorrow or whenever it's decided for the last six months we just we just moved into this house and you know for the last six months I've been hardening my position because you know could I go out and buy property tomorrow absolutely I think that's a little rash I'm one of those guys where I'd rather wait for the dip when everybody's broke a shit and then go buy it I'm sorry I mean I'm just kind of like a capitalist that way but so I've hardened my position and I've taken steps to shield my family from certain situations and prepared ourselves to where I wouldn't say to a tenor guzzy level but pretty damn close so to speak you know and I think that the more men step up and say okay I've got this under control the more the women can relax and focus on the home and nurturing their children I think that is what's going to be key especially if Trump were to unfortunately lose I think that the attack on the home and the family values is going to be precedent it's kind of like if you think about Karen volume right now God you know that Karen was going off you're going to have Karen to the fifth mention because everybody is going to be a Karen that's on the left and it's and you know to the to the massing kind of where I live you know you know Jeff can roll where he lives and say yeah that doesn't apply to me you know where I live it's not like that it's like the manager the police they're all over you like instantaneous like instantaneous like why would it is like Jeff whatever the fuck in those places yeah true story that Brazilian steakhouse they didn't care yeah exactly well no remember I got peeled I got peeled for not wearing one it's the way you look man you just draw attention to yourself what is peeled you know the ladies like you got to put a mask on to go over there there's a group of kind of us and he was the one dude they pointed out now to your point Phil and this is something I really want you know to put some emphasis on my my child my son's 11 my daughter's 8 and I've already made it clear to them that there's nothing that's off the table for discussion they'll ask me questions and the difficult conversations you're talking about they're horrible to have because when I have them I can kind of see that innocence a little bit of it just a little bit of road to the way when they hear about some of the evil that's in the world you know I haven't it's not to the degree of you know what is abortion they've asked you know been real personal and real you know I'll sit them down and I'll explain that to them and I really feel for the children who are living in homes where the parents can't be bothered they don't want to talk about the things you're not allowed to talk about politics you're not allowed to talk about money you're not allowed to talk about all these taboo subjects and what that does is it creates a gap if you're not going to answer it somebody else is yep and when we talk about the attack on the family if the man is not squared away because men are just we're resilient beings we are we are good at being resilient if you're squared away and you believe in your mission like nobody can throw you off course if you're dialed in but you're not opening that up to the children and you're not opening that up to the wife because you're so focused on you and your progress somebody else is going to get to them and that's how they're going to get into your home you're going to be so focused in that front door that they're going to come in the side window through your child and ask them questions that you wouldn't answer they're going to go through your wife and all of a sudden you're having marriage issues and you're like what the fuck things were great what happened somebody filled the gap because you were watching your own six if you don't parent your children if you don't father them someone else will that's really tablet is a real thing if you're not looking at the social media if you're not look I was looking with my daughter we were looking for homeschooled projects we're going to make slime this this happened last night we're at my my my in-laws were having a great time and I was like let's watch a slime video how to make slime and this cute little kid thing whatever and I click on it and she was doing something and an ad popped up for tracking your period this is a child it is how do you make your own slime it is built for kids it's all like Japanese anime like bright colors and it's here when I got my period I wish I had this app on my phone and I'm like what the fuck what if what if I told her hey you go look up the things and come tell me I didn't want to be involved bother me football's on or I want to go watch this thing I'm gonna be on my phone flicking my daughter be like what's a period what I'm supposed to track all the sudden what if it's something else it's the end of a sentence no more I mean we didn't have to have the discussion because I was there and something to address and that's fine she's a girl like it's life but if if that is just on those types of videos what else is out there how long before it's porn how long before you know that in a sense it's stripped of them and I don't get to be the filter it could be next week tomorrow that's how soon it could be and that's why and to the point to bring this full circle when I was asking Phil fathers have to be involved not just focusing on your mission and growing the stacks but also growing the lives that you're leading which is your wife which is your children they need your presence not just a toy not just a phone not just a tablet they need dad they need dad to sit there and have these discussions and it's not like oh don't worry about the election no explain the election explain why you feel the way you do explain why if they are watching the news it's flipping out if you're at a restaurant and the TV is on they're like oh Trump's the devil well let me explain to you why they're saying this the president isn't a Russian spy you know it's just it's necessary and I really hope that patriarchs are understanding that the duty doesn't start and end with just you working on you it starts and stops with you as Jeff said in his speech but that's full circle everybody's involved in that yeah it's kind of like the three pigs right so if you think about the three pigs they built a house out of straw and it got blown down they built one out of wood and it got blown down they built one out of brick and it didn't get blown down your family unit you got to build it like you're building it out of bricks one at a time you set that foundation you just keep going brick by brick and the big thing with that is you got to understand that these kids are so impressionable even I mean at 16 now she's starting to conceptualize so much more it's like it's almost talking to a young adult right so you calibrate that conversation kind of like Jeff was discussing earlier with the six year old and the conversations are a lot more intense now and to your point Zach your daughter she's still very young and it's unfortunate that she saw that the thing with social media is I allow my daughter to have Instagram heavily filtered through our we have a whole other device that it's completely mirrored we see everything I see every you would be surprised she put some she went to a birthday party last weekend they put some pictures out there within like 45 minutes there was like three DMs hey do you got snap well guess what mine doesn't have snap you know and it's like no I don't have snap sorry send me booty pictures through this yeah this is good brother boys will be boys boys will be boys yeah it's all good and I tell her that I'm like look you're 16 he wants to grab your titties he probably wants a little more now and you need to realize that you need to understand that there's more at stake than just having some fun in the back of a car your virtues at stake who you are now affects who you will be later and you know well dad it's not fair you know my friends all have snap and I'm missing out on so much and I'm like well sorry you know and it's we go round and round about the snapchat thing and I hate to break it to her she's listening to this baby I'm sorry you're never going to have snap but that's exactly how my wife and I run our house you know we've seen the teenage boys doing the sneak thing where they got a phone from a friend and they hooked it up to our wi-fi I mean I can look and see how many devices you know are hooked into our wi-fi and I'm like well are you go in there and just what was that in your hand give it here oh this is a brand new iPhone that your best friend loaned you all right snap all right explain that to your friend that you owe him 400 bucks because that shit wasn't coming in my house I wasn't joking when I said no you know and then I don't pay for that shit I did it's not allowed in my house they violated it's their friend's fault shouldn't he let him borrow it but you know on to what you were talking about Zach my wife and I it was just a few months ago because you know we homeschool our kids but with the homeschool program that we use they have some zoom calls with a homeschool teacher that's in a centralized location they get on there is a bunch of other kids and they sent us this this paper and one of them was for my son and another one was for our daughter it was this paper about I can't remember the damn name of it it was like neon or some shit it was some new way of teaching sex ed well that right there I mean there's nothing new about sex ed since Adam was banging you know nothing is new all right I mean that automatically rang the bell and my wife and I started reading through it like I don't even know what this is we had to google it and figure out what the hell it was and we know they're not going to do it so that was the end of it now you can sign that paper you know and say you know if you're sending your kids to a public school you know I don't want my kid doing the sex ed class with this new thing where you're going to explain to them that you know purple is a gender or whatever but that's not going to stop their friend coming out of the damn classroom five minutes later you won't believe the shit that I just heard bro and then next thing you know they're coming home going dad is it true I can have a vagina if I want no Johnny you can't and you have to go through that horseshit I'm a hundred percent with Phil on that filtering everything that comes into your house and I love the iPhone snap that's awesome dude I cannot tell you how many phones I've broken just because they got it from their friend this is a rich dumbass to keep giving you phones because they're not coming in my house but I just wanted to say all that I'm a hundred percent on board with Phil but I'm going to have to jump off here I got a little man I got to get down to bed so Zach, Anthony, Phil, pleasure enjoy your night and I will catch you all tomorrow see you Joe interesting enough though you know I guess the big one is tiktok too right so that's actually very political believe it or not you would not believe how much political stuff is on tiktok right and she'll come to me and say well look at this I allow her to have that but she can't post videos she can get in there and see her friend stuff and do that but she can't she can't post videos of herself you know so she can have a piece of it but she can't have all of it and as she grows a little bit up a little bit more mature then we'll start trickling it to her you know it's just like for four years and she's 18 and you just can't blow the whole world up at 18 you got to kind of trickle feed that stuff right but I will tell you that these young boys they suffer because you know I'll see these messages come across and I'll say and I'll send my daughter a pic of me with like a not fucking around look on my face and I'll say if he sends you another message say he's sending a message from me dad I've already blocked him it's you'll never see anything wow you got to be that way Anthony yeah I mean I'm listening to all you guys talk man how you do this because like I'm taking mental notes man I know we're near this position in my life but I know that at some point I'm gonna be and I won't be ready for it and see and that's the technology now when you're ready to do your thing and wow nope living on the woods no fucking phone to snap because ain't nobody only I got a phone you ain't got no phone Anthony says the only thing snapping are twigs at the campfire right a lot of fucking farm dude 27 acres man or whatever he was talking about that Michael Foster Anthony you brought it up earlier like this election is like no other and Phil as you're saying that it's we're living in a time like no other there are people I guarantee who will hear that you are stunting your child's development by not allowing them to do X Y Z you know but not letting them have a phone you know not letting do this or that not too long ago the internet was fucking new and now it's now it's necessary for life for the optimal development of a child that's absolute garbage but because men become so weak and averse to conflict that they're just like oh no that's good I don't want any confrontation it's just get the instagram just get that I'm a good dad I'm a nice dad and your kids gonna suffer because you're trying to be so fucking nice compliant week bitch you need men we need patriarchs and with this election everything coming up we need people to be able to say no I tweeted a couple hours ago on this point Zach and I said that because it occurred to me that you could phrase it this way and people would get it so with regard to the importance of this election you know everyone every election they say is important right wrong until 2016 they were not important in my opinion for a long time 2016 was super important right now I'd say we're in the middle of a soft revolution in a positive direction the MAGA stuff and all that way deep state a president getting in that was actually elected by the people and not chosen for them which is what the primary system I think was designed to do you block out third parties and you control the primary system therefore you didn't even have to you know they never had to rig the general election I think the the people who really can pull the strings they never even thought that would be necessary and it was pointless to do it for in terms of effort and risk as much easier and safer for them to control the primaries anyway what I tweeted was I don't think we're ever going to live again in a pre-Trump America ever if we're lucky if we work hard we can get to a pre-911 America and roll back a lot of this garbage it's been building up and bureaucracy and regulations and the Patriot Act and all this crap spying and shit but in terms of a pre-Trump America in terms of attitude and politics how politicians operate like we're seeing now Michael Foster is talking about Lindsey Graham these Republicans that all of a sudden have some serious balls Ted Cruz is another one that's really you know man fuck up some stuff Ram Paul even something I even like before the Trump stuff but we're never going to go back to a pre-Trump America I believe that like it's like we hit 2016 was like hitting a fucking huge hornet's nest but a fucking baseball bat made out of like nails and shit like these bees are pissed and murder hornets dude and that's 2020 is what we're seeing man look at not only in America and the whole world I mean Trump getting elected this was such a fuck up for the deep state it is spinning world history in a different direction all western civilization and beyond the war with the trade war with China all this crap Trump leading and giving more brazen kind of balls to other countries who look to us for leadership where America goes the west goes they say or the world goes even Canada look at Brazil look at even Macron in France now apparently has some balls pushing back against French men getting their heads chopped off and broad fucking daylight by radicalism terrorists and shit even in Britain they had you know the natural frauds they have Brexit and stuff anyway I really believe that we're not going back to pre-Trump America the past four years the deep state stuff has gotten weaker because of Trump that's why they're spazzing out freaking out and another four years is going to weaken them a lot further and hopefully beyond that we need to keep electing presidents the presidency is an overpowered position so important it wasn't designed this way like all these executive orders and all the the supreme court and you know the legislative branch of government they've ceded so much power in the presidency I think by design for so long because the deep state was so overconfident they'd always control it now that they don't it's a weapon against them the president has so much power it's you know ridiculous it wasn't designed this way but I think it's good now that Trump has it someone has it with an independent mind and well anyway yeah so we're not going back to America and ever like I think people think that too they think if Biden gets in it'll be like you know they're living in 2012 all over again in 2013 or 2014 that's that's not the case big tech you know for example big tech big tech is not stopped by executive branch and legislative branch and all that and they get you know broken up or busted up or somehow you know regulated in some way that's going to get serious for us they're going to get more pissed off from the coming years that's something you know again the Biden presidency I don't know if I'm going off too much of a tangent with this but I really believe that we're never going to see that kind of that establishment politics in both sides again like the game has changed in 2016 and 2020 it's like super high stakes because of that more in the middle of it we're in the thick of it just like if 2016 was 1776 I was going to say I honestly think that's an excellent closing point to this discussion you know we I don't I think we are on the cusp this is the night before of possibly the greatest election of our lives and you know the generals and all the men who signed the constitution knew that was if they lost every one of those names was going to be hanging if Biden wins tomorrow it is safe to say everybody on this video just signed the paper they've talked about it they've openly talked about this they want to de-trumpify America they call it they want revenge they want restitution they call it reparations and shit they're coming for blood they have none of this appeasement attitude none of it these people are nuts in the worst ways they're really out of control there'll be a continued gridlock as well I see that's what I see for the next four years hopefully we can maintain some position like in the senate if he were to lose but that gridlock will stay which I really believe he's going to I want to say that the gridlock will just continue to drag on and nothing will ever get resolved and the people will just keep getting trampled on the little guy guys like myself you Anthony Zach you know the small business owners of this country that hey you know every hundred dollar bill it's 33 dollars out of that bad boy man that I got to set aside are you freaking kidding me it's no way no and if you Biden wins it's going to go up to like 50 bucks for every hundred dollar bill I bring in yep yeah I mean that's you kid that's unsustainable yeah that's the point man like they want to destroy them the middle class to destroy America and that's it like I really believe I'm not super into like I'm not a Alex Jones guy and I like Alex Jones that's about it like that's as far as my endorsement of Alex goes but in terms of like some really serious sketchy as shit 2020 has been the fucking I think 2020 as bad as it's been in the word it's been the worst year ever in terms of like tyranny in a long long time bad fuck this is just a warm up if Biden if someone like Biden gets in like it's that it's going to get way worse way way worse and everything the goals to ultimately just remove America from world leadership and do that by making it a third world country or just collapsing it like the Soviet Union and balkanizing it and busting it up into five or six countries and completely weakening its power that is the fall of America that's the fall of the west that'll be the fall of Canada the fall of Australia the fall of the UK that'll be in 50 years you can see the next dark age or sooner you might have a totalitarian dictatorship like China a communist should hold like that leading the world and controlling it and spying on it and it's fucking not good it's really not good it's like gas chamber like round people up kind of shit that's where the salt leads man that's where masks you know that shit goes off too far too long that's where that shit goes the idea that we're not going to have more genocide and shit this century is very very unlikely and unrealistic last century was filled with it and we have a lot we have another 80 years to go in this entry without that shit hopefully when you see you see what they did in England they just they just shut them down like majorly yeah they're the police are going to come in your home yeah you're not you're not allowed to have sex and shit now they they try to man couples and it's fucking crazy like it's super they need a revolution like straight up my home come on news and I don't even watch news they don't got the guns man like yeah that's we have that attitude because we have the guns I feel I feel the same way my doormat you know my doormat my front door says the latest white house says come back with a warrant I'm dead serious yeah yeah and I'm willing to fight for my country and die if it comes down to man I don't want to but fuck like I'm ready to rock dude I really believe in freedom and live free or die like if it gets that nasty I don't want to live as a slave and I think most human beings don't and we need to really like amp that up to the max right now I think every father has to stand for something and when you stand for something you're not going to go down for nothing you will stand up you will everybody will have their own breaking point but every father needs to have a much further along you don't need to take another inch don't take another step backwards don't give another fucking hair this is it wherever you're at in whatever life you're living while you're listening to this nothing else do not concede another fucking hair if anything start moving forward the best of men are the ones who are proactive they're not waiting they're just going to start taking steps it's like Michael said invade don't be evade invade the sad part is they're so asleep that the realization will come when it's way too painful and they won't even know how to handle it hey we might catch one two maybe five that's why we do this video that's why we dedicate our time to having this discussion all I gotta say is wake up wake fuck up sheep sheep sheep sheep no more sheep wake up it's go time gents tomorrow election day it's the calm before the storm it was great talking to you guys you guys have any any final words you want to share before we wrap up the pre-election discussion yeah I was just going to say that I love this country God bless it oh Trump baby mine is pretty similar make America great again and live free or die I mean that literally not figuratively like you ready for anything America is the greatest nation in the world because of the American citizens like an aircraft carrier it's just sitting there it can go out it has more artillery than nations and we have multiple of them I'm not going to say the number we've got a lot of them but without the men and women inside it it's a floating piece of metal that's America America can be so much but it comes down to the people inside if you're listening to this then something's already going on between the years you already have an idea that you're either taking action or you wanted to find out what could I be doing more of we had an excellent discussion for you tonight I'm Zach Small with President Dream and Yvonne Phil this is Redman Group Patriarch's election edition thanks for tuning in