 going to be for them to just report back and the board has a few questions. We'll ask that, but otherwise the lines will be muted there. So if you want to go ahead and you have something to add tonight, you'll go ahead. Yeah, so the big thing is I promise this, but I did, I sent something out this afternoon. I finally got together that research stuff that I talked about doing at the last meeting. Did you folks, did you folks get it? It was literally like an hour ago. No, I've been on the road. I just came in 15 minutes ago, so no. I don't think anyone else has really had the time to sit down and digest anything. Yeah, I just, yeah, I'm sorry. I just, when those time got away from me kind of things, but basically, so I've got just a little, it's like a two major. I sent it to the select board address. So I guess that powers directly to you guys or Sasha will get it. And if she hasn't forward it already, I'm sure she will. Firstly, in the morning. Yeah, so basically, I mean, you can take a look at it. So I've got the sort of the basic logistics on there tuitioning out to the seventh through 12 faders. I put some tuition rates of some of the schools in the area on there. Yeah, I did. As far as the, the other district that's undergoing this process is down, down south, um, Reevesboro and Halifax are having their, it's called it like a step two with the primary. That's the one where they ratify whether they're going to withdraw or not. So that's, that's where they're at in the process. I think for them, it's, it's really pretty straightforward. There's actually only two towns in the Unified District and then they're part of a sewerized reunion. But so, and they've actually each town has voted already separately, uh, like the step one. So it's kind of a formality, but that's, that's where they're at in the process. So, uh, they haven't really, but not that far along in it yet. And they haven't, you know, sort of. All right. Well, I certainly appreciate you putting that stuff together, Neil, and the board will take a look at it. I think, um, you know, a lot of what we decide to do, we'll, we'll be working with the school board people here and, you know, find out what's going on and, and then see if there's some action that should be taken. But anyways, I appreciate your, your efforts so far. Um, so we'll take a look at this, um, and schedule, uh, some kind of an outreach meeting to the community, accordingly, when we, uh, as a board feel that it's necessary. Sure. Yeah, that would be great. And, uh, yeah, and any questions you have on anything you want me to, it's kind of like bullet points and just a little brief something about each one. So, but anything you want me to flush out more, just give me a shout and I'm happy to do that. All right. Great. Does anyone on the board have any questions for Neil? Not this time. No, not now. No, Daniela. Hey, feel free to give me a shout. All right. Well, thank you very much, Neil. Appreciate your time tonight. All right. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So, um, yeah, thank you. Moving forward, is there any other public comments? I know, uh, Steve just jumped on, Steve Robbins, for the rec committee. But other than that, is there anyone else here on the line that has anything to share on public comment? All right. How are you tonight, Steve? Fine. Well, how's everyone there? I think we're all doing good. This weather, we can't complain, right? Absolutely gorgeous summer weather. Can't beat it. How was the real estate market? I'm busier than a one-darm paper hanger. I'll bet. I understand a lot of out-of-staters are moving it here. Yeah. And there's always some element to that, but certainly, Vermont looked good in the, uh, the current situation, I would say. Right. Folks want to work from home and Vermont's not a bad place to call home. Exactly. So, Steve, do you have anyone else on the committee that will be joining you tonight, or are you going to be sharing this stuff by yourself? I believe I'm solo. I did invite others if they wanted to. It's certainly the way in, but I don't expect actually that others will. I just don't know. All right. Well, if anyone gets on, I can see here, I have it up on the computer, and I'll encourage them to speak if they wish. But if you're here and you're ready to go, why don't you go ahead? You were going to certainly talk about the mission statement a little bit tonight, and then share a little bit about the project that's going on. Actually, the things that I was going to update you on were the mission statement. Actually, last month we sent to something, I don't know if it ever made it up to you guys, about a state request document that talked about some field mowing, basically, you know, maintenance stuff. And then there was a couple other bullets when I did attend last week during the last month in the public section. Joan said that they were looking for a subcommittee, so I brought that up at our last meeting. That's with regard to updating the forestry plan on the town forest. Yeah. Okay. And there may be just a couple other bullets, but I'm not going to speak to the project if that's what you're talking about out back with the skills park and the trails upgrade, because that was something that I had to rely heavily on John Atkinson to give you the most detailed and up to the moment info. Okay. That's fine. If people have questions about it, they can ask you if you can't answer it, but otherwise, it would be nice to have John maybe, if you can reach out to him as a director there to our next meeting, maybe come in and tell us a little bit about what the project entails. Absolutely. And I'm also pressing our secretary Chris to get the minutes done as quickly as possible, because if he gets those posted, it is a subject at every meeting now, of course, and, you know, and some of what John says in those meetings gets reflected in our minutes. Cool. Very good. All right. So why don't you go ahead and start. So when I found myself sort of the only man standing forward when others left the vacancy for, you know, kind of a chair, I reflected on what I have enjoyed on this committee over the last couple of three years, but also on what some of the folks that have come and gone had said, and I thought that it was a really good idea for us to, and a basic way to find who we think we are. And the best way to do that, I think, is in a mission statement. We under, I don't know, it was probably over the course of a couple months, a couple meetings where we talked about what we should be doing or what we want to be doing and not, and we came up with this, I'll call it a draft for you guys to approve a mission statement. And again, I don't, do you guys have anything printed in front of you, or did that circulate? Did they, did everyone give a chance, I'm trying to look to see when that was sent out. Nasha, I typed an email and she admitted that's why I didn't make it to the last time when I showed it. Yep. She subsequently found it, and I thought maybe advance fits everybody, but I'm certainly ready to read it, but I thought it would be easier if we all could read along. Yeah, I think I have it up, but why don't you go ahead and read it for everyone's benefit, Steve, go ahead. Here we go. You hear me okay? Yep. Great. Yep. The mission of the more time committee supports the use, stewardship, enhancement, and enjoyment of the town property and resources for recreation, preservation, and educational purposes, including the ball field, forest, trails, and town forest. I don't think that's too long. Tom, any comments? That sounds good to me, really. Tom, what about you? I know you're heavily involved in that type of stuff. It's sounds good to me. Yep. Good. Yep. Yeah. Calla, you like it? It sounds good. Well, there you go, Steve. I think everyone, unanimous agreement that everyone thinks you've done a great job with that. Well, that's great. Now, I guess, reflect in your minutes, and we'll quote-unquote adopt this as a mission statement. I mean, we don't have any other big documents that we rely on as a committee, but I think it's good to have at least a mission statement. So, great. Thank you. Thanks a lot. So, interestingly, something that's gotten the attention of our committee over the last really many number of months, this discussion started easily a year ago. I wouldn't say every time we meet, but came and went. And that was the idea of what our role would be in the sense of doing just, you know, suggesting things with the select board and then having you say, yeah, your name. And one of those, I would say, call it maintenance issues is field-blowing. Again, there's a whole paragraph that was written, and I can read it. But the idea was that we have, I guess, an opinion on how the field and some of the areas would be mowed. And it included actually talking to a couple of your neighbors right here, or our neighbors, the Schultz's, and the other gentleman's name is going to escape me. It has the chicken coop. It's next door there to the town and clerk's office proper. You have Holland Brown and Becky Eau Claire. No. He's next to the church on the other side of the driveway. His backyard. He's next to the same Patrick's. Yeah. Yeah, that's Holland Brown. Holland, yes, that's Holland. That's right. So at any rate, the concept being, and again, we're not so much talking about the ball fields, if you will, not the soccer field, not the baseball field, and not areas around where the swing sets they are behind, you know, that area. But, you know, the side hills, let's call it, in the back pastures and the more wild areas, or potentially wild areas. And there was sort of a universal idea that they could be mowed less often and later. It's sort of the theme. And again, if you want me to read this entire section about field mowing, I could. No, I don't think that's necessary, Steve. How many times, and this is something that we should know, or I just don't know, how many times is it being mowed now up there on the hill? It's been two or three times already this season, for instance, at least twice, if not three. And Susan is, I think our member, Susan, who literally lives in the village, and she's there all the time. So she kind of keeps up running a tally. I would say over the course of the summer, easily, it could be three to five times, you know, up behind the courts, the upper field, the side hill, where the kids sled, and whatnot. And then interestingly, the subject of the area, again, between the clerk's office proper and Schultz and how on there. You know, way back when that was kept down, the kids used a lot. The feeling is it isn't so much now. And they both wouldn't mind letting it go a little higher with the exception of having a trail that would allow them to go from sort of their backyards up and connect. So they wouldn't have to walk through ways deep. So they, you know, they both individually said that would be great if it was, if it was let go a little while, they wouldn't mind if they would like a little, like a narrow stress cut that would allow them to connect on back up to the road behind the clerk's office. As board members, what is everyone's opinion on this? I'm not sure I'm clear on what the question is. What are we, what's the question? The question is whether we should mow the upper fields in the side hill less often. So right now, as Steve just went through, they're doing it five, perhaps six times in the season, based on what they've seen and as a rec committee, they're recommending one to two times, Steve, maybe? Maybe I should read just a couple of things from it, because it doesn't hurt. Seasonal mowing areas should be pushed later in the year with the goal of reducing the amount of mowing, not supporting a specific use. This should save town resources, reduce emissions, and foster a healthy insect and wild habitat. Ground nesting birds may find the site favorable related state programs to protect the nesting season are designed to prevent mowing between May 15th and August 1st. I'll repeat, reduce and prevent mowing between May 15th and August 1st. Late summer fall mowing benefits the sledding and related sports on the hill above the baseball diamond in the spring. The school uses some of the fields for recesses primarily in May and June. The recommendation from the committee to the select board, mow the lower flat fields and access past the town forest trails as normal, mow the septic area as little as required to support that system. Ideally, only once or twice per season. Mow the slopes above the baseball diamond in August and again in September. Stop mowing above the tennis courts until September. What's absent from that list, and again this was sort of an afterthought. Meg Schultz attended our meeting as did Helen, and specifically as sort of an invitation. We had sort of informally pulled them and invited them to come to a meeting. Again, I don't know if our minutes are up to reflect that. Again, there are neighbors, literally all of our neighbors, so certainly if the town wanted to pull those neighbors and others to get opinions that might be appropriate. We're maybe just trying to be an impetus for discussion, let's say. We think it's a reasonable discussion point. There may be some benefits and we're certainly interested. You know, the counter response we heard from one element was, you've got to mow all the time to keep the ticks down. But not certain that the state and the science actually completely supports that as a, as a, as a, as a linchpin to whether ticks thrive or not. Okay. All right. But certainly you said something about mowing a path because I did receive an email from Meg and she said, we are supportive of less, less frequent mowing. However, we're also concerned about increasing tick and mosquito populations as a result. And my mother loves to walk back there, but isn't sure if there's enough anymore to navigate through tall grass. I would like to learn what options are being discussed so we can give you feedback before decisions are made. So I think, I think mowing a path would, would be a good idea. That would pretty much solve all the issues. You know, one thing that we could do was, you know, one or two of us or, or everyone if they, if they wished could contact the neighbors and get together and meet prior to maybe the next meeting or actually no, I don't want to get too many people together. Even if we start person, but one or two of the board members could meet with the Schultz's people around there, ask what their opinion is. And also with Martin and who's doing the mowing and, you know, get the opinion of them as well. And then we can bring it back and have a discussion about if that works for everyone. That sounds good. I would also add in there, if people are worried about ticks, I know we treat with a triage aside, because we're right on the outside of the forest and you just lay it down. It's safe, it's pet safe once you lay it down. And we don't have a tick problem all year. What is it? I'm sorry to hear you. It's a, it's a side. So it's in a green bag. You can get a bag at practice supply. Usually a bag does a solid, it does the border of our property. So it's probably like five acres, but you just lay it down and it goes in and it, it works for ticks. It works for some other insects. I don't know if that would work. But I think that's something to, as we're making decisions on things, something to take a look at. Certainly Kelly. All right. Is there anyone that wants to be on this walking committee or meet with the neighbors? I would, I'd volunteer for that, Tom. All right, Ray. How about you and I, Ray, do that. Sounds good. All right. And I'll, we'll talk offline and we'll figure out when we can do that before we're on the next meeting. Okay. Thank you for taking that up. Can I make two other real quick bullets and then I'll run away. Absolutely. At the last meeting of your meeting, John mentioned a subcommittee for review of an updated forestry management plan on the town forest and said that you would like some volunteers to join others. Yeah. I brought that up at our last meeting and both John Atkinson and Chris Stevenson raised their hands as I did. And I would take a back seat if you wanted only two. I would, I would go ahead and let those guys charge. I was around for the original write up of it. So, but I don't, you know, however you want to do that. And once that gets going, feel free to send out an invite. Yeah. I mean, I don't think there's any limit on the numbers. So that would be fine. It's obviously something that's essential to our whole, you know, what we're doing. So, you know, with the trails and the forest and everything else. So that was impossible. No, I think that's fine. As John said, the more the merrier, I think the more people are putting their heads together that produce the best document here. Great. One other sort of a protocol question for y'all and that is, given the nature of the committee that was a universal desire for us to meet socially distanced with masks on outside under the kiosk sort of huddled as far as we could on those tables that are out there. And I suggested that maybe that's not something that the town would prefer that we do, whether it's, you know, setting a bad example or otherwise. So I thought it was reasonable to maybe throw that up to you guys to see if you have an opinion on that or not. Steve, you know, thanks for bringing that up. And that's something I'm going to talk about in our communications or business later as we go forward, how we want to continue conducting meetings, whether it's conference calls or some type of social distancing. So let's table that. I think there's opportunities there. Just, you know, saying right now, but let's wait for the whole board to weigh in and we'll do that a little bit later in the meeting. Perfect. That's all I got unless you have a question. All right. Anyone have questions for Steve as far as what he's chatted about tonight? Yeah. I have one. John Atkinson has been talking about perhaps forming a conservation commission. And so I was wondering if that's been kicked around with the rec committee? It has. Okay. On two different occasions, it was actually a vote. And it was, I would say the first was a pretty solid no as far as rolling that into something that this committee would undertake. And that was before we had a changeover of the current makeup approach. Lane was leading when I was on the board. I actually brought it up as a discussion item. As a, there was a citizen group that was meeting regularly, John, I think, as you know, that was concerned about the maybe the, the original line and more town and some other significant right. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. And acknowledgement that actually of the, of the other valley towns, more towns, doesn't have a actual recreation committee where they're charged different from the mission statements that we just have as a recreation committee is, is purely for, I think, identification and securing if you will, of lands. I mean, that's what a lot of recreation commissions do. So on the second account, when this group got together and we passed this mission statement was the other time, obviously, that it came up for discussion. And there was pretty much universal discussion rather commitment by all that we shouldn't mix our purpose of a conservation directive, which could be an all encompassing directive from a recreation. The word conservation appears in that mission statement, but it's not our central we, nobody felt like it should be our center. Right. Right. No, and I understand that. And, and what John was suggesting, because he actually, I guess, mentioned it to Cory Miller. And I think that the idea was to have it completely separate from the, the rec committee. But especially since we have acquired this new parcel, it does seem, and we're the only valley town that does not have one. It seems to me to make sense. So that's something that you could find some great people from within our town, just like we've seen on other committees that might be willing to serve on such a committee, you know, right? He would have trouble getting five to seven folks. If you put up the word of a new committee on that, if that's something and maybe, maybe Steve, maybe you could help John and put together a statement for, for that committee. So we, if we want to go out and look for some of those people, we know exactly what you guys are thinking. I'm happy to talk sidebar about it. But, you know, I'm just going to plagiarize what I'm going to take the other two three towns and I'm going to probably morph it into. That was no sense to reinvent the wheel here. Right. And I can reach out to our account in terms of, you know, the process, because I know there is a process to form when it's going. Sasha, why don't you put that on, on old business and John, and if you and Steve want to, you know, when you can, and the next month, so get together on that and just come up with something. Okay. There's no other questions for Steve. We'll, we'll move on. But Steve, thank you very much. I appreciate all the time you've been putting in. Thanks for reporting out. You're welcome. And I'll follow up with John Atkinson on that ongoing project. Very good. Thanks. Okay. Thank you. Thanks, dude. Thank you. All right. So now at 630, we have coming up school board. And we have Kristen Rogers and Lisa Mason. I'm not sure if Lisa's on. I am. Oh, just jump on you. Hi, Lisa. How are you? Okay. I'm sorry. I thought I wrote the wrong time in my calendar, but I thought I made distortions. Oh, no, no, no. You, uh, you got on when, when, when you guys were on. So, um, as a board, we also, I want to apologize for the car sound. I'm done at Couples Field baseball practice just started today. So that was me. Sorry about that. Oh, no, no, no, that's all right. Those things happen all the time of these, these days. Life goes on. We still need to communicate here. So, uh, thank you ladies for taking the time to join us tonight. Um, we have had as a board some questions, you know, moving forward, you know, you know, what's going on. Um, so if you had a moment, what we'd do is maybe give you a couple of minutes to give us a state of the union and then, uh, if anyone on the board has questions, we'll, we'll fire away, but we won't certainly put you on the spot with anything. Too serious, but, you know, feel free to let us know what you're thinking and, and what way as a board we can support you. Do you want to go first, Kristen, or do you want me to? Um, I can kind of, uh, touch on a few things. Um, so at the last meeting of the season, she said school, uh, school board season, there was a pre-K through 12, uh, timelines that was presented to the board from a subcommittee, um, for reconfiguration. And I actually printed that out because there was a very particular paragraph that, um, I wanted you guys to be aware of that I had listened to the last select board meeting, um, in preparation for this one. And I know that, you know, talking about the more town five and six, it was okay if I just read this one particular paragraph. So this was kind of, um, the pre-K through 12 committee report. So, um, it's under the category summarized below or a couple of key points from our conversations. So it said in lieu of warning, warnings from the state leaders about dire economic forecast for FY 22, committee recommends that the board should affirm probably in October or November that consolidating the seventh and eighth grade would likely be the only configuration change implemented in the 2021-22 school year, unless the financial situation caused by COVID is so dire that the board believes it needs to be, it needs to do more that year. This does not take further configuration changes off the table, but assumes that discussion about next steps in the other two elements of the pre-K through 12 plan, more town five and six closure of fate and, uh, more town five six and closure of faith then would be taken up at a later time as determined by the board. So that was kind of, um, something that was very concerning to me because it had sounded like that they were going to try to do these reconfiguration and steps. And try, and Lisa, if I'm kind of misinterpreting, um, so the first step would be the reconfiguration of seventh and eighth, and then it sounded to me like maybe the following year might be reconfiguration of five and six, unless the, uh, what was it, the financial situation caused that move to happen sooner. So I just wanted to make you guys aware of that. Lisa, do you have anything to add to that particular thing that I might be missing? No, that sums it up. I mean, I think that the rationale behind breaking up into parts is that they're thinking that they'll have less of a kind of voting block of the public against it if they, if it's not all lumped together. Um, and so seeing the most support in the community for the merging of seven, eight, that's the one they're willing to tackle first, and that would be the most savings. And then they're hoping that by taking on the other two separately, I think isn't just, there just might not be enough people that get up on arms to really be able to make a difference in whether that moves forward. Um, that's the impression I get. Yeah, that's what I would, I would also agree with that, um, your impression, too, Lisa. Yeah. And who, who comprises this subcommittee? Currently it's, um, Tari, Jonathan, um, Tim and Jeremy. Jeremy. So it's just board members? Yes. Yes. Certainly. I mean, to be fair, there's just that. As Maureen McCracken points out in the Valley Reporter, that they were, uh, going to explore the different options rather than going forward with an option that, you know, there's already been voted down, even though the other's left out. So to be fair, that subcommittee is the timeline. That there would be a committee composed of non-board members, you know, and they would reach out to the community, which is what the community wants them to do. So that's not happening, is it? But, John, I think she was just clarifying that, um, uh, that committee is just on timeline. Is that correct, Lisa? Yeah. So that committee came together just to put forth a timeline to the board. But that timeline is pretty crunched. So it's like there's going to be some discussion time in the fall, but then really they're, they're recommending and like the board approved, basically voting on whether it's going to happen or not in October by October. So you're correct in that there doesn't seem to be really any time worked in for there to be any further exploration or discussion as it seems to be assumed. Right. Correct. Certainly if others haven't read that from Maureen McCracken, they should because, you know, she makes a very good point as she always has. So is there anything else that you guys feel that's important that we may need to know or should know? No, I mean, I think specifically to Morton, I'm not thinking of anything on the table right now. I do think that the last meeting, if anyone is interested in watching it, there's a really interesting discussion about the raising of the Black Lives Matter flag. That was quite complex and long and didn't come across very well in like for a report to happen. So I'd be happy to explain a little bit more about it or if people are interested in watching, I recommend it. Yeah, why don't you take a minute and come over to what it takes to talk. Yeah, so there's a task force, for lack of better word, that has been formed. That's comprised of Tom Drake and Sarah Strollcraft, which are the two administrators of it across the front. And they are trying to task force to really try to come together around the issues of anti-racism within the district. And they, you know, didn't seem like their dents kind of worked on, but they were really trying to get momentum going. And they came to the board with a proposal or a motion to raise the Black Lives Matter flag across the district so at every school campus. And at first it really, you know, like I don't think there was anybody in the board who was thinking that that wasn't a good idea. But as we heard more in public comment about the fact or the idea that it really needs to be something that's the people of color in our community are initiating or at least part of the conversation to have those flags raised without that conversation and that inclusion happening first, then it can really feel like a token that's not substantiated with real action and actually do more harm to the people who are already feeling marginalized than, so kind of the impact of that action was not good intention or could possibly not be. So it came down to a really narrow vote and we decided to not raise the lives of this time and really try to encourage the task force to include community members and school students that would be most affected by it. So it certainly doesn't take it off the table for the future, but it was just kind of a little bit of an eye-opening of the white people in power can't just make these decisions without really doing the work to the people who need to be in the conversation. No, I agree with you and thanks for taking the moment to explain that. I think like you said you just read a headline or something like that. Yes. Be very disappointed with what you see him, but no, I think your rationale is very sound. Yeah, it was really interesting. I learned a lot just from the discussion and hearing from the public a little bit farther along in their work than I am. Any other specific questions? Yeah, hi, it's Don Wexler. I wonder, I'm just curious, like how do you, if you both to just give us an idea, what's your thinking on going forward, being on the board, some of the challenges ahead on the board as far as what we will do in terms of the state and the mandate and the money that's involved in keeping schools running and whether the reality is that maybe that is the reality that we have to do something with the 5th, 6th and 6th grades, and that we can't keep going on the way we're going or we can't. Actually, I'm quite confused. I'm quite sure how we should proceed. Yeah, Kristen, do you want to go first on that? Sure. So, I mean, there are some definite big concerns for me as far as I don't see a bond coming down the pipeline anytime soon. So, a big concern for me is the idea that you have to have annexes at CrossFit Brook to accommodate children, and then you have a partially empty building at the high school that has, there's no money to do anything with. The other concern is that, you know, as a parent of a child going into 6th grade, and if this merger and stuff had been a budget, I never understood what my son's education at Moortown was lacking and what he would have gotten at CrossFit Brook. So, I think that there needs to be a good explanation of what the children, if they are going to be moved to CrossFit Brook the 5th and 6th, what is it that they're getting? I mean, it's never been, I don't feel, maybe, I know Lisa's been sitting in on meetings before she got on the board. I don't feel like that was ever explained. It was just because they should. It's just, so I look at that as a person that if I wasn't on the board and even on the board would take a lot of convincing as to why I should be in favor of moving kids other than, yeah, let's just move them. You know, it's again, it's in the best educational experience for our kids would be in these annexes for an indefinite amount of time with a partially empty building. You know, those are big concerns for me. Those are the main things. I mean, IDATE is going to look like in the fall, and I do understand about taxes and things like that, but I'm just not sure certain changes need to happen if it's really what's in the best interest of our children for their education. Yeah, I hear you. And I did tell the committee, I said they're actually going to have a pre-K through 12 committee meeting tonight from seven to nine. I sat in on the first, well, I sat on on two of them, and the first one I chimed in, I said, you've got to sell it. Again, I said like five and six, you've got to sell it if you're going to want to move these kids. What are those children going to get across at Brooke that's so lacking at Moortown? Because I don't see it. Nobody's ever told me other than they should just move. So that's it. Yep, I hear you. Yep. Yeah. For me, I hear the same concerns around uncertainty of a bond and the final money that would be needed to really make this move be a positive one. The biggest thing that I keep coming back here are two big things is that, like John alluded to, the community absolutely needs to be behind this before it's going to be successful. So I don't see a path towards major reconfigurations that doesn't involve coming together with the people who are in our community and deciding this is the right path for us. And that just really hasn't happened. And I don't see a ton of really legitimate efforts to make that happen in the future. So that's really concerning to me. And then the second thing is really around the kind of idea that we do have declining enrollment and that's really affecting our costs of people and our taxes. And I see the need to really look, take a deep dive and look at where we can be cutting costs. But I think the other has to be the equation that we're not addressing is how do we really strategically create a plan for our district that increases enrollment or at least them for decreasing enrollment. So I think that there's two parts to this equation and we'll really focus on one. And I don't think that that's not saying it's not an important part to be looking at. But I also really want us to be looking at the other as well and making strategic moves that are going to put us in places we want to be in 10 years, not just with less schools and still decreasing enrollment. So that's kind of what I'm thinking of. Yeah, especially there's probably going to be an impact with that there's more people moving to Vermont and hopefully some of those are young people who are going to need to have their children in school. So, you know, and the other comment I would have it would seem to be that there should be a little bit more time spent and educating people on and and people discussing what the options are as we go forward really and not have it just seem like it was being rushed right into at least in my perspective. Yeah, I think unfortunately the board the people that have been on the board for a long time feel like that they've done that work but they were doing it at a time when the community wasn't really aware that they were doing it. So even though they feel like they did that work, they, you know, disconnect between what has happened and what the community was really able to get their input into. That's a big problem. Yeah. Well, I remind everybody, I mean, you know, as Lisa said, you know, like a 10-year time frame, we're under a two-year time frame with the superintendent getting an extra year. The first year is to consolidate the two junior middle schools. The second year is to close basin and remove more towns five and six. Yeah, it's as simple as that. And, you know, once again, it sounds to me like, you know, with the final meeting of the season, which I still don't understand why the summer is off, especially when there's so many important things to discuss, we don't take the summer off. But at any rate, it's neither here nor there. You know, just the fact that now I lost my train of thought because I was thinking of that. That's a two-year time frame. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, the superintendent still wants her own wish and, you know, unless the entire board, you know, takes the role that they are supposed to do and being her boss and only taking recommendations, but not following all the recommendations, you know, that plan is going to happen. And, certainly, I thank the two of you so very much for all that you do and for having such strong backbones, but unfortunately, you're in the minority. Yeah, I mean, I really think we need to have our eye on March already and really getting some candidates into the open seats, but that might change this building test block. Because I don't see much happening and so that's true. Yeah, I'd agree with that. Well, I think that's a good strategy right there. People aren't happy with what's coming out and you need to change the board. So, unfortunately, you are everyone, even when this last election thought that there would be, you know, some eye opening and even with the budget going down, there'd be a little bit of reflection on what they're doing and apparently not. Nope. Well, again, thank you very much for taking the time out of your schedule to spend with us tonight. But unless anyone else has any other questions or do you have any other comments you wanted to make, we'll move on. No, I mean, I think that the involvement that you guys have with the board is really powerful and I commend you for sending the letter and the putting the confidence, you know, it can feel really like you're just hanging your head against the walls and it never really goes anywhere, but I still think it's a fine. So thank you for doing that. Thank you for having the interest and trying to stay up to date and all that. All right. And I would totally agree with Lisa. Thank you, Lisa, for saying that. Very good. Well, thank you. And as you pay attention a little bit to our meetings, we're looking at different options and as we start moving forward, we'll keep you informed and look for your input as well. Thank you. Yes, absolutely. All right. All right. Thanks guys. Thank you. Thank you. Have a good night. You too. All right. So I'm going to move forward and to reports. What do you got for reports for us? Did you say me? Sasa. This is Sasa. Sasa. Okay. Cheryl and I were seeing that the maple tree down by the mailbox at the town office looks like it's dead. I'm wondering if maybe John could take a look at it. Okay. It was part of the grant, so it needs to be addressed, I guess. Okay. I'll be down there tomorrow. I'll check it out. Okay. If you guys want me to invite Ray and Mandy in the next meeting so we can get the MOU. Yeah, I think that's probably a good idea. Um, email that I got. Yeah. Sorry. No, you were going to share that email you got from Ann Magnola. Yes. I forwarded it to everybody. I don't know if everybody had a chance to read it or not. My concern is if the board is going to make it mandatory to wear a mask. Yeah, that's something I was going to bring up tonight anyway. So, um, and also a, uh, Sheila Gatzinger had a post in front porch form regarding that. I didn't see that. Um, so why don't we go ahead and um, just say that right now. So Sasha, am I correct? Um, warrant has already, um, instituted that policy. That's what I've heard. I don't know it for fact. No, that's correct. It was in the Valley report of this past week that they have. All right. Did anyone, I didn't read the Valley report? I didn't hear either. Is there any, uh, what was the, what was their justification and why were they doing it? They're justifications that it's the right thing to do. And what, what is it? What is it that they decided upon? Do you want me to read it to you? It's an ordinance of face mask ordinance. I can read the article in the Valley report or cause I have it. Well, I guess I don't want to say basically you're saying that they want people to wear a mask when going into restaurants until they're seated at the table, going to stores, and, uh, you know, any public places that, you know, people from afar and locals to protect, you know, as people travel into people's communities and people who live in the communities to respect each other and, and take care of each other. That's sort of basically what I think they're after in war. All right. So, John, you said you were going to bring it up. What's your thoughts? Well, certainly I've only been in the Moretown store once since it all started. And I was really horrified at the lack of, uh, face masks and, um, both, both patrons and employees. So I'm not going in there until, you know, well, basically I'm not going in there again. Uh, same with Olbashan, which is in Moretown, um, same thing. And, um, you know, even though there are signs requesting it, it's not mandatory. Um, and I, you know, I, I know I've brought this up, Ray, and I hate to be a stickler on this, but, you know, your employees, you know, they're, they're not wearing face masks. And I see them after, after hours, they all get together and they're all really close and so on and so forth. And, you know, we've already been called out on it by people going through town. Um, I just think it's time. So what is our enforce going to look like for this? Well, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I would, I would like to hear from Warren in terms of, of what they're doing to enforce that. Um, but I would, I would assume that, um, you know, number one, the employees, it's absolutely mandatory. And number two, um, any patrons that come in shouldn't be allowed to enter without a face mask. But who is going to enforce that? Because as a state employee contracted through the state, for all my family times that I do, face masks, everyone should be wearing them. But if a parent decides that they don't want to do that, there is nothing I can do about it. We can have a conversation, but I can't cancel any time. So what you're looking at in stores and public places is asking employees to do this. And I can tell you employees in Montpelier, where there's an ordinance, aren't doing it. They're not because employees don't want to deal with any backlash. Right. Right. About that for people because they're going to be, going to be giving a hard time and management isn't always necessarily there. And I mean, law enforcement isn't going to do anything with it. I think with, with an ordinance or something like that, it's, it's, it's kind of like a catalog, you know, it keeps the honest people out or it'll keep the honest people doing it or the people that have a conscience will, will put on their mask. I mean, you could put all the laws in the books and there's some people that are just not going to do it because they're not going to be told what to do or, or such and they don't give a crap about other people. So, but if you do pass an ordinance, it is something that, you know, it's, it's certainly stronger than suggestions to do it. So I think there's, there's some validity behind this request. I think there should be some more research into it. I don't think it's something that we can make a decision tonight on it, but I think we should gather some information and at our next meeting discuss it and make a decision. I think if we're going to do that, we should also have the store managers there to weigh in on part of this and what they want to do for enforcement, because ultimately it's going to come back on them. No, I think part of, I think part of that research, Callie, and I think you're, you're, you're right on it is, is including the more town general store in that because that there, that's the biggest area of public gathering in the village. And then certainly, as John mentioned, Obershawnd on the other side of town. So, those are kind of the target areas. So we'd want to make sure that we include those people in on the conversation. I mean, unfortunately with Obershawnd, they don't have a store manager and that, that places, it's really something else. I mean, nobody knows what's going on there. But when I went in there, they had the data, Obershawnd, all the people in there were wearing the masks. The workers were out wearing the employees. Right. Well, I, well, yeah. They all had masks on and I had one and a couple others probably did see one person in there without his mask, but basically it was pretty, pretty messed up. Well, that's, that was my experience, you know, I've only been in there once. Yeah. Well, the times I was in there, one of the, one of the employees had his mask, but it was under his mouth. So that didn't do much good. All right. So why don't, in Sasha, I'll ask you to help gather some of this information. You and I can talk offline, but if anyone has some information they want to share with the board prior to next meeting or some stuff that they have gathered, please get it to Sasha. And it's something that we can discuss and make a decision on. And then Sasha, if you could reach out to Warren and find out, you know, what their ordinance is and kind of a little bit behind it, if you will. Okay. I tried to touch base with Rita today, but I didn't hear back from her just because she's the busiest person I have the town for in Warren, just to see more in-person about it before tonight, but I didn't hear back from her. So if I hear anything back, I'll send it on. Yep. Very good. Thank you. If I can just chime in. I'm wondering, you know, actually, I've been seeing some of this, you're reading this about the math. I mean, we might be looking at some of our students going back to school wearing that. I mean, yes, the, you know, the math, if we listen to our health experts, it's washing our hands, wearing our math and social distancing. That's what the Secretary of Health, Levine, and for Vermont has been telling us all along. So what we're really asking, and I don't know if this is an ordinance that has to do with this, we're asking people to respect that. And, you know, I don't know. And then maybe yes, bringing in the owner or manager of Jolly's there to say, you know, what's Jolly's policy through the state? We're not the only Jolly's. They must have 10 of them in Vermont. You know, what are they doing, you know? Yeah, that's a cool point. Yeah. And in any event, it's unfortunate that the math thing has become a real, you know, it's been politicized for sure. That's exactly right. We know where that's going. Yeah, let's see what we can figure out in another two weeks, because it's better for everybody if we, if we can figure out something that works, you know, I mean, maybe we'll even have the schools are going to be wearing masks. I don't know. I agree. I think, as you said, the recommendations are coming down, recommending it. So there needs to be a lot of good reasons not to, but we wouldn't do something, but let's see what's out there. And if I just one more second, Ray, not to put you on the spot, but what's your company's policy? Because when I go through town, I hardly see any of that crew wearing masks. I mean, one or two guys. I'm just curious what your company's policy is. I'm sorry, you broke up. What was that? The company policy is they do not have the six foot separation. They shouldn't, they should be wearing a mask. However, there is other safety factors to consider. If they can, you know, as long as they can safely, they should be wearing a mask if they're, if they can't keep their six foot separation. Yeah. No, listen, it's got to be wicked difficult to do. You're working, it's hot, you're bald, five and three guys working in the ditch, you know, it's not easy. It's crazy. I know. So, you know, five minutes are together and then, you know, then they go apart and then they come back and it is difficult. You know, this is the first, you know, I'm not on the job all the day. I'm currently on the job at all. So, you know, I don't get any other feedback other than the feedback I just heard tonight, which I will address again tomorrow when I get to work. But, you know, you know, I don't, I just haven't received a lot of feedback either way. Yeah, no. I mean, you know, right away and Nick, Monty, you know, you guys always wear a mask. Yeah. And so, you know, Nick has been really good about it. And, you know, I mean, I just don't understand why the others, others can't understand. Again, John, you know, some of the other guys are, you know, they're swinging shovels and hammers and yeah, working down in the dirt. And it is, it is very, you know, it is very hot and it's very difficult. Yeah. And I don't think they're doing it out making some sort of statement. I think they're just doing it because they just can't breathe. You know? Yeah, I can do as well. Right here, yeah. It's really difficult. Really difficult. But, you know, I mean, I mean, you mentioned after work and, you know, you know, I mean, what they do after work is beyond after throw, obviously, but I could certainly, I can, I'm certainly going to bring that up. But, you know, you're on your own, I'm after work, but this is not right. You know, if you're going to sit around the store outside, whatever they're doing outside, I don't know what they're doing, but if they're just talking whenever, then that's a different situation and they should be wearing the mask. But, you know, they're not on my time either. But, you know, it's, you know, but I will talk about it with them again for sure. Okay. Appreciate it. Right. Ken, when you talk about masks, you also have to look about health conditions because it's not recommended for people with asthma. So you can walk into a place and say, I have asthma and as an employee, you can't question people on that. Or they have trauma history of a lot of the people that I know have trauma history where they wear masks. So I feel like it's a really fine line. And I think we need to really do some research on it and really think about what we're putting in there and get all the feedback we've had in doing that. I mean, public safety is important, but it's also all the different moving aspects of it. Well, I think you make some good points and, you know, your best one is public safety is important. It's a paramount and almost to Ray's point, a lot of these people, and no one's doing it for a statement, you know, they could have asthma, they could be other underlying conditions. But he's going to mention to his crew, we will gather information as a town what type of ordinance we could or should or not put in. Can it be just a recommendation? Is that a better way of approaching it than an ordinance? Maybe, you know, as a town, we're recommending asking people... I think that's something we need to discuss, Don. And that's, you know, what is the best wordage, you know, and because you put in an ordinance, what do you have to, you know, how do you, as Cali, say, how are you going to enforce it? So, you know, play it out. Do we recommend it? Do we, you know, is it one? So let's get the most information and try to figure out the most effective way to promote good public capital. And that's what we're all trying to figure out here. Right on. Sounds good. All right. So, Sasha, that was kind of a sidebar from your communications. Is there anything else that you wanted to share? Oh, no. That was it. All right. John, what do you have for us tonight? Well, before, Sasha, on one of your communications, you wanted us to get into sign some warrants or something, right? Oh, yes. So, okay, when are you, where is that? I'd meet you at the town offices type of thing? Or... I could see them all out in the meeting room and let me know when you're going to be there and I'll just unlock the door, let you in and have at it. Well, if you want to let me know when you're there this week, that works as well, too. Okay, I can do that. I'm just a little, I'm not far from the village. You know, if you just give me a day's notice or something, or you can do that. Sasha, why don't you give everyone a win? And I think you're there most days, correct? Yes. So, if everyone can make an effort to get over there at some point this week, that way we can get those taken care of. That would be great. And thank you, Don, for bringing that up. Yeah, thank you. So, you're there tomorrow? You can give me a call in the morning, Don, if you want. Great. Perfect. That sounds great. Thank you. All right. John, did you have anything for us? Yeah, a couple of things. I got another call from our friend, Frank Piazza, and he was reminding me that he never received that photograph ray of his spring line. Remember when we took the meeting with him, we mentioned that. Yep. Okay. And I never received that either, so I thought Nick was going to get that to us. Yep. I was off last week, so I did plan to get the drawings over to Frank today this afternoon. Oh, good. Okay. Send them. I mean, I don't know what that's going to show, but anyway, I don't know what he's looking for, but whatever. That's a belief in drawings, anyways. I mean, you know, you show him what the right way is, and he wants to know who says that's the right way. It's on the drawings. I don't know what else you can do. Yeah, just don't pay too much attention to Frank. He's searching for stuff here at this point. Yeah. What else you got there, John? And then certainly I want you to talk about the project, but... Yeah. I received a letter from Megan, first an email from Megan Schultz, and I asked to write a letter. She would like to join the Moortown Rec Committee, so it says, Dear members of the board, I would like to formally request to join the Moortown Recreation Committee. The committee via Susan Wurkin extended an invitation to me to join their group after I attended their most recent meeting. Susan asked me to reach out to the select board for official approval. As a lifelong resident of Moortown, a property of butter, to an avid user of much of the town's recreational land, and an event planner by trade, I feel that I would be a valuable asset to the committee and their efforts to organize and manage the recreational opportunities here in town. And I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. Thanks for the advanced peer consideration. Megan Schultz. There she goes by Meg now. What sounds... I'd like to make a motion that we have next, to be on the rec committee. I'll second that. John, second. Any for the discussion on the motion? All in favor, vote aye. Sush, if you can just send her a quick letter out, letting her know, and also copying Steve on that. Okay. And Susan as well, making sure the whole committee there knows. That's great. Good. She'll be good for that. Yeah, that's great. As far as the project, certainly you can see the, you know, the progress with curving and sidewalk. And the only issue that's come up is the big hole in front of St. Patrick's. And you know what's funny is that Ray and I both, you know, just can't recall that that hole ever being that deep. Is there always something like that, Tom? What hole? Where the culvert, where the, the culvert comes out that, well really, that drains, it does drain some from the more town school, but also the sump pump from the basement of the church. And so what they're planning to, what they're planning to do is to have basically another culvert that would carry it back out into the system. Another catch basin. Yeah, another catch basin rather, yeah. So another catch basin there, and then would tie in with the, you know, with the other drainage. And so tomorrow we're actually, it's the second meeting with Howlin Brown, who we found out that, unless you know otherwise, Tom, that the churches, actually that's all on Howlin and Becky's property, because they say that the church is the drip line of the roof, which really, yeah, yeah, at least that's what they said was in their deed. Yeah, I don't, I, I don't get in there enough to know that stuff, but yeah, but I know that, you know, in the past, when we were just dealing with the sidewalk, and I know that the, that the priest had mentioned that it was, you know, any conversation that Pat had with him, it was okay. Yeah. So, so it would mean a permanent easement, and that's, you know, that's what we're looking for with, with Howlin, and, and initially, I believe that they, Howlin and Becky are in agreement, but we're going to finalize things tomorrow. The final and resolved would be with this catch basin that is, that hole would be eliminated, and everything would be graded to it. And I think it would look a lot better than it was previously. Yeah, because how far down is it? Oh, from the new sidewalk elevation, it's probably going to be about a two and a half foot drop. Oh no, would it well? Yeah. Yeah. So we can grade it off, and, you know, it's going to be more, but it's going to look a lot better than what it does right now, as long as they allow it, I guess. Yeah. I mean, basically, you know, it improves their property too. So, you know, Howlin said in the past, he's had to go down in there and, you know, try and patch things up with, with wood and, and anyway, so. Yeah, no, I think that would, like I said, that's a win-win for, for them. Yeah, I would think so. Yeah. And interestingly enough, with Doug Hansen, it was nothing like, was in the plant just to put riprap there. So I mean, really, really weird. That must be an extra for the, for the boys, right? The work. It is an extra structure. Yes, it is. Yeah. But I could tell them, because it's going to be a smaller structure than that, what we had for the project. I'm giving you, like, a different price than, than what we had contractively obligated to do. So, certainly, I think our price for catchphrasing on the normal and the roadway is $4,500. And this one would put me in, I think we could dip for around $2,500. Right. So it is still an extra cost to town, but it's not trying to, trying to get out of it as easily as, you know, possible. John, do we, we must have a contingency, right? And when you guys did put this whole thing together, do we have a contingency in our, in our final number? A little bit, right, right? There was a contingency. You know, there's been some. You always find stuff like this, you know, a little unforeseen condition. Right. Right. There has been some contingencies, you know, I mean, with Dean, some money by, by the milling, let's say there's like going to be a $15,000 gain, but we also got these tanks we're dealing with and the flagging, the flagging is going to be way over what somebody estimated, but the sheriff's thoughts are way down. And I was hoping that we have a better, probably by the next meeting, we'll have a pretty good idea what the total contract amount's going to be, I believe. Anything else here, John, going on? Yeah. The other thing too that we keep running into is disagreement with, with Doug Hansen's, you know, plans. And, you know, that was just one example, but there have been several of them. So is there any recourse on that? I hope you have the charges for him coming out and redoing his plans. Yeah. Well, that, that was one thought that I had because, you know, we keep going back to him and, and, you know, there was some discussion last week, and I don't think he ever mentioned that he was going to be away this week until July 13th. But now that there's something that we're going to have to deal with tomorrow regarding that too, that, you know, he's not here to, to answer the question. So, and I believe there's a curbing grade issue. Another one, I think that we would try to get an answer on since last week, as I recall. Right. Yeah. All right. Well, keep on that, John, and then Ray, thank you to make sure that, you know, things are going to go. And can you guys in the field, Ray and John in the field, can you guys make some of these decisions to carry on? And if it's a change, you know, you sort of acknowledge it and, and then Ray gets his pricing together and we can keep the job schedule going or do we have to wait to discuss? No, no, no, we, we can make those decisions. Yeah. Yeah, they just have to live with it. No, I think, I think we can make the decisions. I mean, when the, when the designer guy gets back, maybe, you know, there's going to maybe have to be a discussion with him like, hey, we're having all these up to scene conditions and, you know, we want to talk about your next invoice or something, you know. Well, no, he's, he's better not be invoicing us. Right. Well, they, they tend to see that. Well, when that comes in, we'll, we'll look at that. Yeah, absolutely. Certainly. All right, John, what else? I think that's pretty much, pretty much does it. I, you know, have received emails, thanking me for the front porch forum updates and so on. And so it's just nice people have reached out. So yeah, yeah. Well, thank you and thanks for doing that. It is good to see those updates in there. I think people like to hear what's going on and so we appreciate that. Okay, my pleasure. Yeah. And Ray, I think they're the team, the whole team's running a great job. I mean, considering the traffic flow, they have to deal with the, getting the work done. It seems, you know, really, really orderly and together. Yeah, I think it went well. I think, you know, now that we're done the drainage part, that was big getting that out of the way. Things were a little bit slow last week because of the holiday, but right now, I'm going to bring in, starting tomorrow, there'll be another curbing through in. So we're hoping that we get, you know, a lot of the curbing in the next week and a half and then it'll be just a sidewalk project after that. Yeah, that's great. Good. So is it John? John, do you have the road, the bridge up? Who knows anything more than what we know that Sasha sent us, that they were going to start on June 22nd. And I mean, is the flashing sign on 100B, you know, major, you know. No, that's their paving. That's the paving. That's for the paving. Yeah. It seems like they've started the bridge. They were going to start on June 22nd. No, no, no, August. No, but I mean, it's closing it, but I thought they had work to do before. Sasha sent out a fairly good explanation. Yeah. Yeah. And it's talking about them starting. I thought they were starting in June to do their preliminary work. Okay. Yeah, I don't know what to say. I mean, they're, they're the ones, they're committing to those closure dates. So whether they start, you know, what date? I don't, I don't, I'm going to try to find, I'll try to find that now. So here it is right here. August, mid-August, mid-October, I think. Right. Yeah. August 17th, I believe. Put it closer. August 17th, October 17th. Yeah. Well, so August 3rd, begin pre-construction work on site. August 17th, anticipated bridge closure. October 17th, anticipated bridge opening. November project complete. And there we go. Yep. Okay. Yeah. So thanks, Sasha, for sending that out. That was a while ago, yeah. So what do you, at the last meeting, maybe at the next meeting, we could say that we could, I mean, should, what do you think? Should we think about with the pony road becoming the main route to, you know, to, to Meadow Road and all that? Should we maybe have, talk about that, that our next meeting? Sure. We can put that on the agenda to discuss. Okay, that'd be great. Maybe I can reach back out to one of the select, you know, I think, I think on that, if we want to reach out and I, just in general, to boards, we'll do that through. Okay, we can work through our meeting. Right. Right. Rather than individuals doing that, it just optics-wise and just even getting responses. I think we're better off doing it as a board. Yep. Absolutely. Ray, what do you have for us tonight, I think? No, just a project, I guess. Anything else is good, I think, in town. Don, do you have anything else you want to share with us? Well, I'd like to sort of carry on about the town hall. I mean, where I know we're still in some praise times. Sasha did send out something to the committees, asking if anybody's interested. I don't know if you saw that. Yeah, I asked her to do that again, and I'm sorry I didn't have an opportunity to reach out to you. I know you would talk about doing that, but again, I thought, just as optics as people looking, this is a very important project for one person's picking out or even asking things. What are they got, what's their agenda? So we got to approach it as a group. And I think, and that went out a week ago, Sasha, I know John Riley has responded back, and he's put that out to his people. Sasha, have you heard anything else? Nope, he's the only one that I've heard from so far. So maybe tomorrow you could send out a reminder to people and say, hey, look, we just had a meeting last night. This is on the select board's high on their agenda. Have you guys made any decisions on who might want to join this? And could you also, just so everyone knows, because maybe I want to make sure we're not excluding any group, who we sent that out to. Okay. No, you know off the top of your head who we sent it out to. It was Planning Commission. Yeah. Historical Society. DRB, obviously. DRB, Planning Commission. Historical Society. Seems like there was another group. Energy Committee. Sorry. Well, why don't you put Energy Committee. And then obviously the library, but they have two people that would be that are interested in being on some sort of. Right. So put the library and also the Wreck Committee as well. I believe the Wreck Committee was the other one, yep. Okay. I mean, we wouldn't send it to all the people who were on the board of civil authorities, right? I mean, that's. No, no, no, no. But what we can do is I think we should make a public. Once we, let's see what numbers we get, what people we get back, and then we can ask for, you know, a number of, you know, two or three or one, depending on what we think is appropriate for community members to be involved. You know, if there's an overwhelming number of people who want to get in on it, then, you know, we'll make an overwhelming number of board members. But, you know, we want to make sure we hear, you know, all, all people, I'd like to get some people from the Route 2 sector as well. They don't have a lot. They don't get over here that much, but you have a little say about what goes on. No, I mean, I would think that one of the things of this committee or board or whatever, a task force, whatever name you want to come up with, one of the things that they, I think would be a charge to do is set up meetings, you know, hopefully we can have some sort of public meetings or whatever, at different areas of town where people can come in and voice their concerns or their thoughts or what they'd like to see. Absolutely. Yeah, this is a community effort for sure. No, good. So, though, it's not, it's something that's, that's continuing and been a little worth on it. So we'll continue to move forward on that. Yeah. I think if we can just keep picking away. It's like I said, you know, two months ago, a year, we've got a year sort of. We'll see what we can figure out. Sounds good. All right. Anything else on? No, I'm good. All right. How about you, Kelly? Nothing. I just got to read out today about the ordinance and work that hadn't heard anything back from her. Okay. Very good. All right. So I got a couple of, like, a couple of things. One, I wanted to make people aware there's been a couple of instances of graffiti painted on the roads here in town. It's up on Pony Farm Road. It was Mike Farnham who's the culprit. And the first time it happened on a Sunday, so I don't have the date right in front of me, but Sasha could give it to you. I had Martin go up with the greater and take care of it. This past weekend, or sometime during this past week, there was another incident that was, this time it was in a red paint. You couldn't really see it, but I did call and make a report with the state police on that as well. Anyone has any questions or whatever, you know, feel free, you can ask me now or call me offline or whatever. Yeah, I saw that on bike, you know, on the road that day. I think it was on Sunday or Saturday or something. Yeah. Yeah, it might have been on Saturday night. It happened. I got a call and I know Martin went out and took care of it with the greater, the greater. We've also spent the family bill for services with time and the greatest expense that day as well. Whether anything comes to that, I don't know, but anyways, just so people ask her or if you have any questions. Um, and that's all I have as far as I mean, so moving forward, I'd like to get to approve the minutes for our last meeting. If anyone has a motion for that, I'll make a motion to approve the six 15 minutes. All right. Second Kelly. Thank you. Um, any further discussions or changes anyone has for us? All right. Here and nothing. Um, all in favor, would I? All right. Thank you, everyone. All right. So we'll go ahead and move on to old business. And I do have one thing and Ray, this is, this is for you. I have an invoice for Dickerson Road. If you could just take a look at, I don't know if you have, it's a little over what your quote was. And so if you could just take a look at that and share, you know, you don't have to do it now, certainly, but just let us know what the difference is there. Yeah, I will take a look at Tom. I think I know that it was a few times over on stone. I think, you know, it was an estimated quantity. I don't think, yeah, I think it's fine. I just, just for, um, grant stuff, if we can just change it for grant stuff, I think that's more or less what I'm looking at. Okay. I didn't, I didn't see the actual invoice. So yeah, yeah, it's not mine. It's, I'm going to see it's less than $1,500. So it's not, I'm going to know, but if you don't mind taking a look at that so we can just one get that paid to you as well. Okay. Sure. We're paid to do voice. And that is it as far as old business that I had. Is anyone else anything that they want to share? No, me. Hey, Tom. Yep. This is Jamie Wimble. Hey, Jamie. Hey, I think I'm old business. Um, I intended to get on at six, but it was coronavirus time and I lost track of time. Okay. So what's, what's on your mind? So I just did Emily would get on it at six? No. Okay. So there were three of us that we're going to get on at six. We all forgot. So would it be all right if I just did a little library business right now? Sure. We've had a few minutes here. Okay. So the first reason that we wanted to talk to you was that Corey had submitted the reopening plan, the library, and we just wanted to see if there were any questions you all had that we could answer. I took a look at it as long as you guys are comfortable with it. We're not, I'm not there. And based on what I read that she had, she has a better handle on it than, than what I do as far as the protocol. So it's certainly fine with me. All right. Anybody else? Any questions? Oh, I'm good. I'm good. Okay. Good. All right. Well, if you do have any, you know, just, um, you know, let if anything comes up, let us know. Send any of us trustees an email or Corey an email and we'll be happy to answer any questions you have. The other thing we wanted to let you know about was that I live in the part of town where we don't have very good internet and I had been using the library internet a lot, but it was kind of difficult in the parking lot. The, the Wi-Fi getting out, you know, through all the walls and into the parking lot still wasn't always working great. So Corey had been in talk with wait till telecom about that problem. And they finally came up with a solution, which was that they wanted to put up an antenna to be a Wi-Fi hot spot for the town on the town hall roof. They sent her an email saying that they wanted to come on a Tuesday. It was, I believe, at one o'clock. So Corey doesn't get to the library until two when she got there at two o'clock and saw the email. She found out that the wait till telecom person had already been there and been let into the building by the construction foreman that's in the basement. And he had already put the antenna or whatever it's called up on top of the town hall. So the good news is we now have a Wi-Fi hot spot in the town. It should work. I haven't been down to the village. It's been a little too noisy and dusty for me down there. So I haven't tried it out yet. It should work better than the Wi-Fi did by being in the parking lot and using the library's Wi-Fi. But Corey's intention had been to check with you all before that went up on the roof. But unfortunately, that didn't happen. So we just wanted to let you know that that had happened. Well, the good thing is no one's called to complain about it yet. And I haven't. I don't think anybody's noticed it. Noticed. Well, that's the thing. I haven't noticed it either. John's been there. So they'll give us something to look at and maybe make a complaint about. So it's there. I mean, I just thought it was not something that can't be undone, but we just wanted to let you know that it has been done and sort of through, you know. Yeah, well, that's nice. And I think it's nice that the wait skill telecom is stepping up. I know we've had, you know, some offers from some other groups about doing hotspots. There are hotspots in all the other towns. So it's nice that we have one now. Yeah, we're good. Well, thank you guys for facilitating that. Even if it's after the fact. Thanks. Sorry, I think my cat's hungry. So we have some noise here. Is there anything else, Jamie? No, that was it. We just wanted to see if you had any questions about the reopening plan and to let you know about about the addition to the town hall. All right. Thank you, Jamie. You're welcome. Good. Any other questions or concerns for Jamie while we're going to run the line? I see Michelle is joined as well. I'm sure I'm beard. So I'm sure you have anything to add or you just didn't have anything to do tonight. Michelle. Oh, no, I'm just here just in case. I will say, though, I am near the town office and the service here is great tonight. So I don't know if that's the hot spot or what. Well, now the school, I don't think they don't like to have the hot spot down near the town office because the kids in school are on their phones. So anyway, well, all right, so let's go ahead and Jamie's all done and there's no other old business. Is there any other new business anyone wants to chat about? Well, I just wanted to bring up the select board meeting and getting back together as a group again. Has anybody given any thought on when that might be happening? I think that's a good question. Certainly we've been airing on the side of caution for everyone's health. I think it would be good to get back together as a board. And I think we can probably do that with the right precautions taken. John, what's your thought? Yeah, I guess that would be okay. The other thing we could do, he probably looked like the town hall or? Yeah, I think probably the town hall. We could also have public comment or we could limit the number of people that come in or we could do that all via phone. Right. Just have the board meet. I think that would be a good start, yeah. Yeah, maybe we could start that way. And anyone that any visitors or we could have people come in, but public comment would just be done over the telephone. That sounds like the plan. Is that fair with everyone? And I know we've talked about it. I've talked about it prior and then as we've gotten closer, just the recommendations weren't strong enough to go out and do it. But I think now the way things, unless we see a big turn of events, why don't we plan on our next meeting being live. So what would that look like, just curious? Well, I think if we had it in the town hall, we could bring up three or four tables, space herself out, you know, at least six feet apart. It would also be, we would invite the telecom. So we'd have them there. We would, as in our meeting posts, we would also have, you know, call in from six to, in fact, any point people could call in. So we'd want to have the telephone number for the library or that number that's down in the town hall available for people to call in, although it's not going to be live, is it? But people could stay on the audio. So we could do it, have a phone with a. Well, once they call in, they're calling in now. Tom, sorry, but like the same way people can call in now. Yeah, we could just do that and have an open line, have it on speaker phone. So if anyone wants to speed it up at any time, they can do that. Yeah. And the rest of us would, you know, spread out within the room. And if we, and we could, we're going to have guests, which I think next week we're going to have Ryan Mandi. We provide two seats, appropriately spaced from all of us. And are we supposed to, and we'll be, we're all supposed to wear a mask during the meeting? Well, I don't know, are we wearing masks at these meetings? Well, certainly coming in, wear a mask. And I think if, you know, where appropriate, if you're sitting there, you know, put it on, you know. Well, that's the question. I mean, you know, should we be wearing masks or we're not going to be, you know, I don't know. I would say, especially if we're going to be discussing in ordinance, we should be wearing masks. Yeah, there you go. Those are coming from way, John. That's been taking a lot. Well, yeah, I again, I think this is Michelle and still on. Can I ask a question? Yeah, go ahead, Michelle. I think Tuesday, I'm not really sure, but I think Tuesday is a library day. Should we think about extra cleaning precautions after me? Like, or should I? Yeah, no, I think, and we get a, you know, a month ago, I thought we were going to do it. And so what we, at that point, Michelle, the plan was to have the cleaner come in prior to the meeting and do a cleaning. So the board members or any guests that we had were comfortable. And then the morning after come back and do a cleaning. So the staff or anyone else going in would be okay. I think we, I think we're going to have part time as well. So we'll just coordinate that. Yeah. So we can work together on, on making sure that that's clean. All right. So I'll work on that with Sasha and I'm sure we'll be reaching out to Corey as well. If any of the board members have any questions or concerns or Michelle, if you guys or Jamie on your board have questions or concerns with the building, certainly let us know. So I just want to, so when I come to the meeting next, if you need some help in the next two weeks, I'm happy to help, but the plan will be I'll come to the town hall and I'll be, I'll wear my mask and I'll be wearing a mask and others will be too. I mean, that's, that's the, that's correct. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Very good. Thank you, Ray. Um, is there any other new business? Nothing here on the agenda on my notes. I guess I'd move to, uh, to close the meeting. I'll second it. All right. Any further discussion on that? All in favor, vote aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Well, thank you, everyone. I appreciate you taking the time tonight. Um, and we'll talk to you all soon. Everyone stay healthy. Okay. All right.