 Welcome to toffee TV. Well, the transfer show is now the manager's show bit of both I was just I was just thinking this is that like The whole transfer window things just being put to the side. Yeah, of course, you know It is a bit mad. You know, we do need regardless of what else happened. We need Please some players in don't we? I haven't got one in Yeah, we're still waiting to find out what's going on with Anjouma and until I'm afraid until I see him in that kit leaning on Next that three then that's what's gone wrong lately. Yeah, we haven't had the tree the belfield tree You should like preserve that brought it put it somewhere and all the silence go off and just give it the all Leaning on the tree. I think that's what's wrong Maybe you should just stay the belfield not move to Finch van Maybe maybe that's part of the problem. We got ahead of ourselves Yeah It's like it. Yeah It's like what? Yeah. No, it is. We have it just Make it all stop. Well, yeah, the Yeah, it's day one. Isn't it of the search in a way and The the the immediate, you know, news is we are trying to get BLC So what I mean, what are you? Let's just get into what you thought on BLC as a manager and as as the possible next level manager He's obviously a very good manager or a good manager. He's You know pep guard, you know Disciple of him as they say in all that kind of stuff But for me Just not convinced by him Yeah As I never asked the right choice forever, but then the caveat of that is not convinced by most most of the candidates Yeah, I think he plays a mad style of football His play is three three three one. Yeah, I think I think if you were gonna get him in if that was the way you go There's a couple of red flags to me one he's 67 and I'm not ages but that I think Evan needs energy in it, right, but That being said his coaches would be the key with that anyway so fair enough you can put that on one side. I think Mid-season and the team is where it is trying to implement his type of Way of playing I mean there's a report today saying that the Evidence he's assessed evidence squad and it's too slow Yeah, and he's told a club that if he's to consider if they need to bring pace into it will fair play Yeah, yeah, I'll caveat that with no shit. Yeah, like it's what we've all said. There's no pace in this team There's let's see. I've had something this morning to the evidence of the third slowest team in moving the ball the other two romantic as the city and Arsenal, but they do it with the papers They're him in terms of the way they build up ever and literally just don't get the ball up quick enough Take far more passes to advance a shorter distance, which we could all tell anyway But for him to come in and implement all of that and do the running if anyone's watched the Amazon leads documentary When they're still in the champions year You see how hard he works them. You also see that a lot of them fall down injured You know, he's had that issue with leads. The other thing as well is that leads were Leads were in real trouble with them last season. Yeah, you know, and you know, Frank Lampard's evidence destroyed them and others That didn't even in the midst of it. We beat them 3-0 and they were dreadful But there is some mitigating circumstances injuries people tell me how well he had injuries, but he did because his style brings injuries So that's all of data breath flags, but obviously he does play attacking football. He does play risky football. I imagine There'd be a few fourth leaves and five twos and seven nils and That kind of stuff because that's what it's lead seemed it. Yeah, so But the reality is like I said before There isn't one I look at and go he will be sharp for us. No, I do look at it and think There are people you go, not sure about it. Not sure around the thing would be else it is yet I just I don't can you implement that style in such a short space of time? Have we got the players? I mean he's a He's a big one for you know, your full backs Not even you know, he plays Almost like wing backs doesn't he in the formation he plays Have we got those players at the club? Have we got a number six the kind of six he likes? I mean You know, you see now Calvin Phillips was their quota back You need a player like that. I think for this the way he wants to play Of course, he's not always that but a big a six is a really important player in his side and It does need energy it does need pace it needs Players who who are brave, you know, I've seen a couple of things from the weekend. They're saying showing how Now, you know Week we were going forward on Saturday now how by not committing players We were actually hitting ourselves because we weren't pushing them back and and Because we was you know, we see all the teams who were prepared to be brave I mean look at the self out to go back to like the Southampton game or the Wolves game Why aren't we pushing for a second goal? I'm being brave and and you know, if you if we but and this is the difference by the way And that is the difference between no points and six points In those two games if we're brave and if we pushed if we go forward and we put the opposition on the back foot If we can get we get a second goal the game is over. We've we are good enough I believe to defend the 2-0 lead we showed that against palace When's we got once we got to know up against palace the conference was there to defend and see the game out and Limit near chances and it's getting to that point and I think in those two games have we done that We'd be sitting here now six points better off and probably what 12 13 something like that in the league easy Three-point spotters and all that comes down to his bravery your play is being brave enough And a lot of that comes down to the manager as well not being brave and all You know you say what you want to Frank Lampard whether you like them or you didn't like him or whatever He wasn't a Very brave manager. We've seen that with the when he sets up a tree at the back and have them wingbacks That won't go won't go forward make a link. Oh, is that is it's the red flag to me He's the most defensive fullback Out there and I know that's that's fine if you're playing in the same way. He didn't buy him No, no, no, but you should play them but he played them You know what I mean and when you look at like when he plays in the five and you have a position he Has to be pushing forward and we saw that a little bit more than second half when Tom Davis came on You know whether you think he's good enough for you don't think he's tough He's Tom's break a brave player sometimes it leads them to obviously lose the ball in positions But he's got bravely about him and he pushed forward in that game and often times He was he was just sitting on the edge of West Ham's box You have to be brave we've been saying this for ages about the way our fullbacks play and people will say Oh, no, he's doing alright and he's a defender. You can't afford that You have to have nowadays fullbacks You are prepared to sit on the edge of the opposition's box and say to the day counterpart. No, you mark me I don't like you And we don't have that so be upset Would come in and do that a thing and that's where you're right. You are right. You would get mad games You would get but as I said I said to the CSD I watched Arsenal and Manchester United on sat on Sunday And I know that's not The norm but what of a game but what I saw there was two football teams who wanted to win And we're prepared to lose the game to win the game And that's what was really interesting about it And you don't get that a lot in the Premier League and certainly you don't get that from Everton but as I said they'll go back to those two games because For me we lost those two games by not being prepared and when people say oh, you know When people said at the time after the walls game We could have got away with the point there and all that it's nonsense though because look look look at the team Look at the structure again to put the blame on the defenders that night was an absolute disgrace as far as I'm concerned And that came from Frank Lampard and that because you're not brave enough to go and win a game with football That's not our fault. We we understand the limitations of our team We understand where we are in the table. We understand what three points means To the to us in the table, you've got to be prepared to lose again to win again You've got to be especially where we are right now because a point here and a point there doesn't get doesn't take you anywhere in the league But that's off. I mean, that's literally They've been talking about them Be else's strategy. That's his thing. No, that's his style, isn't it? He says you take this because it's it's risk and reward, isn't it also going back to the Palace game Michelin Co was very was really brave in that game He was he pushed on because it was evident really early on the day had nobody on that side because of the way They midfield was structured. They had absolutely nowhere They were just they were all just attackers and he did push on that game And it was so evident how highly played that game and the difference that made to our team and it's fine saying We don't have those players. You have to tell your players to do that You're the manager you give an instruction to a player He carries it out if he doesn't he can sit on the bench that's how football works. It's gotta be it's got to listen It's like we said, you know, there's there's mitigating share circumstances as to why Frank Lambert didn't do as well as maybe could have done Could have done a bit better, but he has to take responsibility as well as that if you're not If you're setting your team up, you've got to encourage players to be able to make mistakes Nice because they will Football isn't FIFA It's not perfect. It's not AI. It's it's human beings kicking the ball around So therefore some of the decision-making will be flawed because in that moment They'll make the wrong decision The key with football is being brave So you make a mistake you get back on the ball and you try it next time It's why I'd never have a go at likes of a woby giving the boat when people go gives the ball away He's giving the ball away got to be honest garner does this he's trying to get us on the front foot He's just very loose with this passing and I accept he does it in the wrong place I accept that but people like a woby wing like forward players number 10s and players like that They'll give the ball away more than anyone else in those areas because they're trying to thread but well good ones anyway They're trying to thread balls through They're trying to get people in on the back you accept that that's called bravery Yeah, it's not if you're safe with you ever now If that's why we go back It's why we often have the ball on the edge of someone's box and it'll end up back with your own pick for the press Because it's back. It's I don't want it. I don't want it back to pick for it It's on that kind of football put you where you are right now I watched that When we put it out the in the latest inside the game We've had it recorded for a while obviously with Wayne Mooney just talking about his coaching and stuff and he some things he says on that are really Important and it is that you've got to encourage players to make mistakes. It's not like You don't go out to make a mistake But if they do you've got to get over that and go again and go again and go again You've got to attack you've got to open a pitch out You've got to put crosses into the penalty area now Frank Lampard. I've done that interview with him. I Literally give him a bit of it not advice isn't the right way because he's far more got more football models than I've got But I gave him an insight into what fans want and it was like can't we have more shots? Can't we have more crosses into the box because that's how we score goals? Don't score goals by hoping to marry great bangs on infancy. Yeah, that can't be the best The best well the champions where do you think they're the best team in the country at the moment? But the champions of this country of this country a scoring goal after goal after goal with a simple tactic Kevin De Bruyne, who obviously is the best out there Whips the ball in and Harlan gets something on it whether it's a header a flake a touch of volley Whatever and put it in the back of the net Even they know they've gone back to they've gone back to they've gone from Pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pull it back someone gets a tap in to get get it to Kevin De Bruyne Whip the ball and get it on Harlan's head or whatever You know, we've got we've got whatever whatever anyone says about Dominic Armonlion. We've got a Someone there has proved themselves certainly in the air and has proved themselves as you know a tapping merchants Who okay, he's off. He's off the pace. You can see that a little bit It's just not quite working at the moment, but you've got a lot there is you keep on feeding them Keep on putting the ball in the right area and look at this is where again you want to talk about bravery I know we've gone away slightly, but we are some of the managers here, of course But if you look at like So look at look at the goal look at Southampton's second goal Look where it comes from look where the ball is look how much space bar plays I've got to just whip a ball into the box and look for Dominic Armonlion And they don't the dick about with it gets taken off them They sit on their ass and throw their hands up in the air in the next minute We're giving fires within the edge of our box because not brave enough to just throw a ball into the box. It's all Well, you know what? I'll wait till I fella goes past me and then I what I'll do is I'll turn around and go backwards and you know when No, I go to some park and people call Toxic or people moan. No gets to go to some park Absolutely moaning is when you're in a great position and you ruin it by turning around and passing it back because you know what happens next It gets passed back like buzzer gets passed back passed back passed back And you've just gone from being in a great position to having to start all over again It doesn't make sense and that's where bravery comes in and Listen, I don't know whether be else it is that man as I said I for me. I Don't know how long How long it will take to implement What he likes and and whether he would get the players in that he would need because It's it's obviously we need we'd need at least 21 points by the looks of it from the games We've got that seven wins isn't it? So that's that's that's not it's not easy like well We're gonna end up. Let's be realistic probably needing seven wins from 16 games the next two games They're not right off because they don't even our arsenal. It's tremendous at the moment in the hour It's a game of good or some part at home. I'm with a new man. It's Well, it's your being you play it and maybe if you knew play so that game to me representing opportunity Liverpool away Is a game we normally lose but they're not flying at the moment and again if you've got someone with a plan Then who knows we need to ride our luck in both games, of course We would right and right now both of those games look nailed on the feet, right? Of course I'm not saying any difference. I'm just saying you never know. So so we'd need seven wins in 16 Which is a huge ask but while we've got home games. There's an opportunity to win home games Away games, we've got to go somewhere and win. We've got to go to the likes of Nottingham Forest and win Which would be a big ask but we've got to do it. We got home games against like Aston Villa, haven't we in Bournemouth and teams like that they have to simply have to be home victories You know, we've got Lester away Lester a poor and all the beaters You know so Evan they're still in with the fight. There's absolutely a but this needs short and quickly and we need an identity Oh, we need someone to come in even if it's not an identity as such To come in and go right. This is what we're doing and everybody buys in and everybody knows the job You gotta you gotta do that You've got to get someone in who Can implement a style quickly because that's what it's gonna require You know, you're bringing a 67 year old fella and he's got to be able to get it sorted straight away and I know Beelzer style is exhausting for the players I get that and and what I would say is There was a there's a situation with obviously where leads were last season and obviously we beat them a good some quite convincingly last season. I Don't use that as the metric for the man though and his managerial style because I just think that His kind of managerial style. He has a shelf life With players. Yeah, and I just think by the time he got a lot this time last season I think leads were done in with that style and I think the plays were exhausted I was seeing this with other people look at look at Liverpool their players are Exhausted with with what they've had to go through last three or four years on the club. It's been worth it for them Of course it has or five years six years, whatever it is. It's been worth it They've won trophies but those plays are clearly exhausted now and it's about rebuilding aside for them You know man cities plays look pretty exhausted because they've had to fight that off as well It takes a toll it takes a toll on you Of course it does you you're fighting for every single game when when your clubs are finishing with 90 plus points every see every season And there's two women in the two of them in the league It takes a toll. Yeah, I don't get me long leads haven't been there But leads have to fight the way out of the championship and they couldn't do it the first time I've asked him They did it the second time under BL set and even that needed a break because the covert break did not help them to get re-energised But I do think that I do think that it does take its toll And of course it might only be a short-term thing forever and if we did get him in You know it could be an 18 months to two year project to an half year project, whatever But I think the leads fans absolutely do love them. They they They understand that it came to a natural end. The problem was it probably should have ended in the summer before that For Leeds really they should have they should have got rid of that summer there They should be there was an emotional attachment. I think they all clung on to But I think you've all told when he's you've had a good time Of course you've had a good time. I don't forget that they love him. There's a proper cult They probably love him, but I think that it adds one its course and by the time by the time You know we got to the end there plays just couldn't do what he wanted anymore And you know we did we're flying forward and he couldn't get back and they were wide open and That happens it happens So we've got a poll running at the moment 57% say no to taking BL. So that's in the comments on YouTube 57% so that's that's that's quite close Like I said, I've you know, I'm in a situation where I haven't got a clue Who who I think could really change this right now Just you can make you can almost make a case for For any of them and you can almost make a case for none of them It just it is it is what it is Paul Gray says we went bands out on them, but we were knackered towards the end. Well, that's better It's the same thing. I mean not some of the fans. I'm some of the players I'm talking about what they have to do day in and day out because don't forget they don't just play like that They train like that. Yeah, you're gonna take it's toll on you. It's and also I think the other side of it as well Is I think there was players that leads came up with that benefit that were like championship players I think the Luke Eileen I think is a good solid player Benefitted from the level of fitness that he got them to Did all right for a year in the Premier League, but leads got to that point where they needed more and I think there was There was a few of them at Leeds Don't get me wrong as well. Don't forget they were similar to us They lost Bamford. They had a lot of in there. I think Calvin Phillips went out as well They had dead really bad injuries last season as well not making excuses for him by the way I'm just pointing that out But I just think that he had come to its natural end with with with him. So and again that's That might back his style it might go against the style. I don't know. I'm just I'm just pointing that out Yeah Paul says as a Leeds fan would love to see Bielsa back in the Premier League to keep you guys up Not sure he's the answer 20 goals conceded in his last five games at Leeds And that's the problem isn't it that's that's really the problem Yeah, it's people will listen. There's loads of people will have an opinion on everybody And I've you know like I've said a few times. It's the No one's got a clue Need and I haven't as who would work because nobody has people can I've seen people say no to Well Bielsa say seeing people say no to Sean Dice Seeing people say no to Wayne Rooney. I've seen people saying no to Duncan Ferguson I've seen people saying no to Marty Lee now Today, you know, yeah, there's for everyone you put forward someone I go. Oh, he's crap. He's this he's that he's the other Reality is none of us know what would work We could get a man that's here. They knew we all go. I can't believe the wife the point of them He might be absolutely brilliant for us and you start going. I mean I'd love that to be the case. I'd love to be going Oh my god, he's done a tremendous job here I've seen you now mentioned He's working in Saudi Arabia the seven and a half million to get him out of a contract I wouldn't have him if he was free personally But every nine pounds seven million quid to get someone out of a contract Adi Big Sam John says till the end of the season Garret says can you tell me about the money we've had to use a sack Frank does FFP come into it And could we not have used that money on buying a player? The will obviously we will have to pay him something There'll have been an agreement. I don't think the contract is I'm as well It wasn't as big as what others have had and all of that and there was Closers in it and everything So won't be the damage won't be as bad as what it has been in the past But money's got to come from somewhere, isn't it but saying come we just got the player a player Frank would have wanted listen Anyone who watches this will know That I like Frank Lampard as a human being. I think he's sound. I think he really worked He put a lot in to try and make everything better. I think he got he got everything I think I think he understood and really wanted to do well That doesn't actually mean anything if result to poor, you know and after his record. He won 12 games in 44 He's got the win is lost 24 defeats in 44 games. That's You got what is it in a 38 game season? He got 35 points would to be evidence lowest ever wasn't it other than money being done so Whether we think he had the right players or not He's had a lot of time to turn this round say ever mother that ask yourself this right if ever mother that's Sam I'll die at the start of the season Would he have got what everything be where they are now even with these players? I don't believe the but I think they'd be higher Not saying these plays are great because they're not what he would be higher I just don't think I don't think the coach very well. I just don't look at players Individually and think you've improved. I don't think anyone's improved in this thing I think that's got to be the matter. He look at look at people because ultimately coaching is the for me It's the number one fundamental of of a managerial team. Maybe not the manager the managerial team Yeah, it's his team a Team has to get better. But any good team improves. No, I'm but doesn't stand still. No, I'm gutted I said at the time even though I'm gutted and he's gone to villa. Yeah, I think he'd have been really good Because we're too We do this all the time we wait till the very last moment a Sacher fella that everyone knows isn't good enough instead of being proactive and going now's the time Villa probably could have on gone to Gerard and gone done exactly what we've done Yeah, yeah and go and done that. I mean their fans didn't have as much of an attachment to ours Which again, maybe that's our fault. I don't I don't I personally don't understand the attachment Frank Lampard I don't know. I don't understand why fans are So an armored by I don't get it. I get why you are because you met him and sat down with him I don't understand that I understand that you sat down you spoke spoke with him. I get that to a point but I've had this conversation many a time many a time of the idea of Even if your manager was doing well, would you replace him with someone who was a better manager? And the answer has got to be always got to be yes It's always got to be yes The same way is you might have a favorite player who plays for us and then someone comes on Oh, you know is better and you summer if they say to you would you replace him and the answers got to be yes No, no, I really like him. He's such a nice fella. He's a good player. I love me run through bit Yeah, but this fella's better. Yeah, I'll go scores because five goals a season this fellow score 20 And nobody's boss isn't it you got for me that romanticism Down the road when it comes to everything football club and we're all guilty of it and we've all been guilty of it And I have and I understand that But for me you've got to be roofless in football because you know what the fellow next year's roof Everyone else is everyone else is prepared to cut your throat or their own manager or players throughout And if you sit they're going now wait wait the people's club. We're great. We're great. Where else for we go the game Do you know what I mean? No, I got it. That's the thing isn't it and I think I think that's where we've gone long You're absolutely right with your point like if Emily was sitting there everything should have gone There's a workplace manager there who understands waking with with clubs with a certain parameter You know, we've seen him go to Arsenal seen a go to Paris and John. It hasn't worked Maybe he's a manager who shoots, you know that I'll fight in the corner Waking for the underdog Waking for a club that's got a smaller transfer budget and getting the best out of it because he's a good coach No, we just sat there going everything's all right And this is where we find ourselves in the same position We were 12 months ago and that's because those people aren't good enough to do their jobs Just on another thing I'll be else sorry because I've just been related to this by Friend of the show who may or may not work in the stats. Well, and he said them One problem would be else for this is really difficult to recruit for him because he rejects players and They end up overspending for certain players like they did for Dan James Because he's he's so meticulous and he wants to certain type of player that it's really hard to get that play for him and And listen, we're not the greatest clubber bringing places as it Well, we're really good at bringing in bad players on high wages But we're not the greatest so well, we just bring in players that don't fit what we need. That's the problem Mark Ellison says to this go successful tactical snide and a touch line presence yet and 37 so but it would ever Do you think ever? No look a genuine would ever look in that I would hope that Kevin fell. Well, but especially being in the rebel camp the rebel thing I would hope that he knows that because they should they should be looking everywhere. Shouldn't he? They should be looking everywhere and this is the one thing that I do laugh with And I do I do think it's funny right is that when people say the Let Kevin fell well make his decision and all that right What if Kevin fell well? decided that Wayne Rooney was the right man Right, you will get people going to joke that it's this it's that it's the and what people really mean when they say like Kevin fell Well pick is Letting pick someone they agree with yeah, someone that they like Because if Kevin fell well really is doing it and there's no evidence he is Nice and we can all put sweets out or say this or say that there's no evidence right now that he is but I hope he is And he picks whoever then you're after trust them So if he come up with if he sat everyone down and went like I said, it's Wayne Rooney Then everyone needs to go stand. It's Wayne Rooney. He must have given it to him for a reason or if he picks Sam all of these then you're after back it you can't say I hope Kevin fell well picks it And then when you see some names mentioned go, this is a joke this it's not him or whatever because it may well be Be else is definitely not Kevin fell. No, no, no, no, no, I know I'm just saying so that's that Unfortunately straight away that blows it out the water doesn't it? It just he just isn't his pick Kevin fell it isn't picking him as far as I'm concerned he'll understand the The problems that will cause the blues it just makes honestly I just totally disagree with it like I couldn't disagree more with you honestly and without you know Everyone's got an opinion. You've got yours. I think it's totally wrong What you're saying which is the players can't be improved what if they're at the limit There's no way these players are at the limit There's no way they are at the limit you can tell when a team's at its limit And you just feel sorry for it because you go they're giving everything They're all good Everyone can make teams better this evidence team is no way near its limits No way near if that was the case then you what would be the point in Sakha them Because if he's getting the maximum of these players and he's doing his job. He's doing his job these players are There's more in me. It's it's about a good coach getting it out It's about it's about it's about different things. Of course a coach coming in and having better You know in-game management and stuff said that before about about thanks You know, I think that was a big limitation early on. I think he really doesn't have good in-game management I think that's been pretty consistent It's up to someone to come in and understand and see other things and there might be do you know what? Do the side of it is there might be other players sitting there going I'm desperate for a chance You know as a price might be sitting there going I ain't desperate for a chance I know I can go in and do something. I know I can go into this team and do something. I know, you know James garner might come back and listen the bills. I might come in and go. You're my number six and Suddenly that opens up. We've been you know, obviously we seem to have the same team every week But he might come back and it's really he's the number six and he gets given five games In a row where he gets to the level and suddenly the manager's like now now we've got a style of fit That's football isn't it? That's that's fresh ideas. It's people being outside the box. It's people thinking outside the box Apparently spares are trying to get Nanjume Play to you Wouldn't be sure if he went but no no, but we'll have a thingy. We'll have a child or something They don't need another 46 players do you know nobody don't do you so Mark Dolan now he's in the conversation It's just Used we were you suggesting cuz don't say dice like he's gonna keep us up You've got no clue the same as I haven't got a clue the same as everybody else hasn't got a clue He's got no It's got no experience except these managed to football clubs Seeing someone go always lost this many games for DC Do you know what DCs were like before he went in? They were rock bottom. They were terrible Properly terrible the DC thing is it is it? I wouldn't even bring that into the now doesn't come into the equation It's the same thing. It's that it's I've said it a million times right a million times. No one has a clue Not you not me not ped not anyone No one has a clue who could turn this around I look and go be l should it be a nightmare, right? The Elsa might be unbelievable forever. I don't know and you don't know so I just think we need to just stop going He's no good for it. This is the reason why we're where we are because our fans just hate everything So we fear we've been conditioned to have in the army because we've been conditioned We've been conditioned into this position into this position. It's why it's why it's why I wasn't asked the Franklin Park Got got got got James and on James the bubble confirmed he said listen the bubbles my mate, but it isn't done and dusted Just cause he says it it isn't done and dusted And he's my mate and I speak to him every day. I speak to him every day I listen. I'm just the bottle not an jume by the way I'm just saying what Progressing well it was progressing really well around over the weekend. He didn't have a medical on Friday despite what people said But he was around at the weekend. He's he's hinted at certain things but until the final papers signed off Why everton haven't announced it? So until a final thing is signed off He's not an everton player for the rest of the season might be done today Spares coming let's hope if you were him and talking them coming you go to spit you can come here You go to space so the evidence keeping it. Let's just not say anything if it's all done I've said this before when it's done. It'll be announced if it hasn't been announced It's because it isn't done that might happen today. Brilliant. Hopefully it will because we need reinforcements But just right now it isn't done He's probably realized how much you'd have to run under What I'm saying about what I'm saying about the managers, right? I Respect everybody's opinion if people look and go. I don't know Most people Now I if people turn on the go, I don't want Wayne Do you need bloody but I get it that's not no issue people said don't want Duncan Fager somebody fine That's the key. Everyone's entitled. I don't want Sean Dice or I don't want Samala Dice or I don't want don't want don't want fine Everyone's got an opinion and and it's your football club as well There's mine and pets and all of us so we're all looking go. I think I'd like this But I don't think anybody can turn round and go. He wouldn't work. He wouldn't work. He wouldn't work because we've had Every every different type of football manager in the last god knows how many years and none of them have worked Like the only one that's worked is Aladise and we all sitting here going. I hope it's Sam Some are because they're thinking they might be able to get them back Right, so that's what it's about. It's difficult. It's difficult decision because evidence such a mess of a football club. So that's all I'm saying But I really wouldn't look at DC United and go always don't hasn't done well there. So he couldn't do it. It's that nonsense The parameters are totally different. He's got experience working the Whatever, whatever, whatever isn't it's like saying players calm come from Emma less and play in the Premier League Almirons proved that wrong show. I'm not saying you a hundred percent you get the job I'm just saying I don't think we can rule anyone out from anything That's all I'm saying because I don't think there's anybody out there. You go. He would sort it I'm saying emery. I love love emery to be available to get him He could come in and make everything brilliant. He could come in and be an absolute nightmare. We don't know We don't know and that's that's all I'm saying. It's really really difficult. It's really really difficult So we've just got it. I don't know. I honestly don't know we've just got a hope hope that we can We can stumble upon something probably that's probably like where we are right now is that we're hoping that we stumble on some Because it is really really difficult But I'm not standing here telling anyone that this person would 100% What I can say is if dunk was in charge after these players he wouldn't have for a second not one So we're walking around as a set I was quite quite calm about the situation with lamp art and I'm quite calm with the situation with the new manager Because I genuinely don't think it makes a difference. I genuinely don't just in terms of the whole club I just know what we have to play what's in front of us that we doesn't mean we doesn't mean we stop we stop Being upset with the people running it because they put us in the trouble That's why I'm quite relaxed about it because we do have to look at everything else I get that but what I mean is I just I don't think that I don't think You know anyone's going to be given the tools anyway to do the job properly I just think the club's an absolute mess. I don't think it can be sorted out over the next nine days I really don't okay Robert Stock says if we accept we should be a stepping stone for players at the moment Then why shouldn't we apply the same thinking to managers? We should be looking for a manager We think has the potential to go to the top Yeah, I agree. Maya says BL said it's suicide. Why is I'm sure he's still making decisions. It's worrying Si says the big Sam shout is very scary. He slacked the fans off and all these bad mouth the club And Joe Max says was it a coincidence that the club officially announced lamp up a shocked are exactly the same time It's the only Premier League game kickoff Absolutely not absolutely not for the same reason as I thought he's actually announced it on Sunday I thought about core past about core past four if I'm honest I thought I thought did did announce it when the game was kicked off if I'm honest, so So no no shock to me that he announced it exactly when spares were kicking off No, no shock because they want to go under the radar on T Do you want to do what you always do which is not have any attention on them? Aaron says I've seen an article saying BL said is Michelle's favorite That's the biggest sign for me. He's the wrong man Rooney for me If he can't manage to keep us up, he can build us up in the championship Martin Kittney says really need to keep one eye on who could get us out of the championship next season Putting some players in place in January both in and out could help the new manager build for next season Rooney is a good choice in my opinion Spruce says I let's after watching Rooney inside the game. It is a fantastic watch. I've gone all in for Rooney It'd be a gamble, but so is everyone the bloke is a born winner on the small details He mentions is exactly what we have not been doing since Moe's left ten years ago Sightailer says if Michelle is picking the manager again, then Thelwell may as well walk if it's BL said and he keeps us up Then I feel we'll be back in the same situation looking for Next manager at the end of next season Daniel says I'm actually being linked with the most attack and manager in well football and the most offensive manager in well football at the same time Clear lack of identity what we do have to say though Daniel I get it if that is real then it's a huge red flag, but people will throw names in my Genuinely, right? If ever now Ten games left left of the season, right? We're hovering around the relegation zone and we're linked with a Person who had four years experience of being a manager in the championship and in league one Would you want that manager? Because that man's name was David Moise No, no I don't I honestly don't know I don't know but that's that's that's where we are now isn't it? That's the way we live. Yeah, no, I'm not saying Yeah, and I am not saying that's right or wrong. Yeah, he was a had energy at that time He was young and he come in and he transformed but that's the point is it? I'm not I'm not I'm not like having to go at anybody and I'm just I'm just I'm just saying When David Moise come in he'd been the manager of Preston for four years He'd got them I think out of the league one into the championship I think and it got them into the playoffs and Nearly got them promoted. I think they got knocked out in the semi-finals. Yeah, I think and then obviously they'd come to Goddus and they played in the FA Cup and we beat them to you know But they played really well against us and and we went and got him and there was energy and there was that The what you could see you could see something there, but it was David Moise This wasn't a household name in terms of football or certainly a manager, but we won it we went and got him and We were in a pretty bad place and that's how we've gone. We've gone. There was no money There was a load of agent players and he turned it round. He turned it round with four or five wins Goddus over the line in the next season. Let me ask you this really well. Well, do you have David Moise now? Yeah, 100% Out of everyone who's been mentioned I don't give a monkeys what anyone thinks of says my I would have him back a hundred percent out of that List out of that list I would have David Moise out of that list no issues Whatever no issues whatsoever out of that list by the way That's just my personal opinion. People can have different opinions. That's fine But out of that list I would have David Moise back in a heartbeat Fair enough. That was just one of them. I would you for that He put it is far better than some of the people on this list in my opinion in terms of in terms of a Fit anyway Also, I understand why people are going. No I'm not the defining person on this ever will be and that's why I leave it to Kevin fell. Well, hopefully hopefully But out of that list I'd have David Moise back in a heartbeat. Absolutely Jason says Got to be Tedesco or Rooney for me both still young and hungry both being in relegation battles in their first job Tedesco's one things in Germany Rooney knows the club knows about winning and for all the people saying we need a more Experience manager. I'd say it hasn't worked before they tend to think they know everything and that thing comes The thing that came across with Wayne on inside the game was that he knows what he doesn't know Yeah, yeah, leave in Stanley says Rooney or short term Sam and J Jonathan says if you were fell well and didn't get a say on the manager, would you walk? Yeah, I would I would 100% because he'd be respected and he'd get a job anyway Yeah, he would be respected for that and he would get a job because if you can't if that's a party you're rolling You're not allowed to do it. Why would you stay? You can't just stay to be a yes man because otherwise you're not going to implement the things And he says for me, it's Rooney I think we have to look at him as the long-term project and if the inevitable happens when we go down I think he'll be the one who brings us back up couple of shouts for Marcelino Couple of shouts for BL set. Yeah, why not? Derek says Five man managerial team when BL said and dice your first and second favorites. You know that it's You're all over the big fella Ian. Thanks for the super chat mate. What does he say? There's just a banana skin picture. I don't know whether he put that picture on, but he just put banana Oh, okay fair fair play to big fella Ian. Yeah, I mean big fella Ian smashed it there with the banana skin banana there um Toby Larone, what are they? She's an artist throughout the needing experience throughout the window. You've got to start somewhere The problem with experience is it's something you gain as a manager And I think that's where the thing with Frank Lampard was is that like you wanted them to pick up that experience as being the manager and I personally thought that last the the experience he gained From last season's trials and tribulations would have Really Helped them, but it doesn't it didn't seem to move them on It didn't see this is a guy Who who kept on telling us that we were in a relegation battle when we when people spoke to them and yet yet never Never really Never really set us up for that Set us up set this quite early on in the season. It was like at the beginning of the season It was like Well, I'm going to play this style of football and then he got his three midfielders in it was like No, I'm going to play this big expanse of football and I'm not going to do all the bits in between That get you from being a bad team to a good team And it was like laying on the job for him like the team like the team were laying on the job And he was laying on the job and I found that quite bizarre I think and then now in the it's it the fan he's sort of gone back to Oh, I think we better play three at the back because I think that'll stop goals going in and that hasn't worked so I think that's what you need It's more sometimes you can just be about fresh ideas. Can I The guy's just you've seen that in the last before that's a couple of games the guide literally run out of ideas Dan says really didn't feel it was right last time for him. That's not true Surely now we wouldn't try that. They both not true. That's just not true. Honestly, it's not true I've seen an article yesterday about Rooney doesn't feel like this time is the right time And that's not true. It's 100% not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. Yeah, yeah, there is Chicken Lipschage would love company, but the state we're in it's uh It's gonna take someone who knows the club. Yeah company looks like he's gonna be excellent, doesn't he? I don't think ever that had any chance of getting him, but he looks it's that type of person, isn't it? I just don't think he'd leave barely to come to evidence where they are. That's the kind of manager you want, isn't it? Oh, but that is though, isn't it? That's the kind of manager you want. You want a manager who goes No, this isn't the right time. I want to get this job done first and then maybe I'll think about it Damn you Burnley I imagine saying like without no disrespect to Burnley, but saying By saying no disrespect to Burnley, you are immediately But I just mean in terms of size of clubs it's mad to think that the Yeah, barely but some would say it barely It's a poison challenge. Yeah. No, you've got it. It is a different. It's a hugely difficult job um few people worried about dancing human now And you've got every right to be worried about them because like I said before nothing was signed wasn't done And if I was him I would go to spares as well. So Fair play champions league football You know team going for the top four Stop crying it in. I'm not Right we're going Give the uh, yeah Know what you could do to make yourself feel better By a hoodie By a look at buzzers. It's nice page command. Yeah, show everyone your hoodie No, he's literally got the same ones. 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