 That's how I come in, baby. Music on the floor. I'm giving it to her. Everybody on. Hey! Check it, man! Hey, man! Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E.C.E.O. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Miss Jamaica. What's going on? None. None. You know, my dad will walk on. Man. Hey, man. Look, man, this guy right here, I've been trying to get an interview with him, man, ever since, man. I locked in with him. It's been a while. And I was like, man, I got to get this guy. In order for the show to go on, you know they say the show must go on. We had to go on at the time we did it. Yes, sir. But we got it now, man. Dr. Rose is in the building. It's a great time to have me, man. Literally. Not serious, man. Literally. I'm just like, can you say, it's a pleasure to be on here. I'm very humbled to actually be on here. And to be able to know that this mic has graced a lot of nice voices and those who truly speak from where they heart. Yeah. You know, so it's great to be on here. Man, thank you, man. Thank you so much, man. Like, you one of those guys, man, when I think about the city and I think about entrepreneurship, man, and just, you know, there's a bar being set. Thanks, man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And it's very, very high expectations on the bar that's being set when a man starts to look at your caliber of what you bring to the table. We've watched a lot of different feedback on you, but just the stuff that you're doing the community sticks out for me. But I know how Miss Jamaica is. I'm going to pull up. Because she got some things she want to try to loop in there on me. Let's get it. I'm not a person. I like to know you as a person, not just what you've done now, but the reason why you did what you did now. So I need to know how you were raised, where you were raised. Can I thank you from Oakleaf? I am from Oakleaf. Okay. Dallas, Texas, Oakleaf, man, with all the Oakleaf schools, man, with the homes, with the Franklin Dillon Roosevelt, and it was just one of the things where I shared. I feel like when you're from the hood, like, everyone has a story, right? So it becomes a race of who's story is going to get them out first. And then you start thinking like, man, we all alike. So maybe we think alike, which means, oh, shit, it's really crows in the bucket right now. Because we're not really helping each other. And then you start growing out of it, and you start saying, which way is, you just feel like you really just following, and you knowing that when you turn back, you know that God was leading you. He was leading an area of a straight to be by yourself. But you're talking like this now, as a kid growing up, you weren't thinking like that. Shit, let me tell you something. She just, my manager just met one of my teachers today. She literally told you, I talk like this in school. Really? Because I realized, I used to say, man, when I was younger, it was like, damn, God, why are you giving this body? I swear to God, I used to say shit like that. Because I'm looking at myself outside myself, like I'm looking at myself through my eyes. You hated your size. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, because I knew like, damn, I must operate in and out. Right. You know, I must literally learn a lot of things early. And we was talking the other day, like, man, how you know, like I knew what I, I knew what I wasn't good at. Yeah. You know, because of research, I saw that my stature will only say, this is your limitations. This is your peak. This is your limitations. Dude, man. And you believe in researchers. Yeah, yeah. So you're telling me, people cannot define what research has shown. Can people not define, that's how you do it. That's how growth happens. You got to learn what someone felt it. And I say the best teacher is, yeah, pain, learning from, but the best teacher is saying, yeah, I'm going to learn from your pain. Yeah. But I got to say this, man, like when you come from Oak Cliff, you know, Oak Cliff has a stigma where you had to be tough. You know what I'm saying? Was it times when you ran in a situation where you had to be tough being small? I feel like you are your environment. Okay. So when you, when you are your environment, you do everything at her, at her to say, you know, this is, this is me to try to protect myself. You know, this is me trying to protect me. This is me trying to protect where I'm going. So you do have to defend yourself. So it's like, shit, you're right. I'm pretty sure everyone in there with a low budget, low resources, low food, low economic status is saying, hey, yeah, man, we all trying to make it. You're going to think that, hey, it's got to be one of us to make it. But shit, I'd rather be me. But when people talk about Oak Cliff, you know, because coming here from Jamaica, when I heard of Oak Cliff, everybody may seem like it was a ghetto, like everybody was poor. I'm serious. It's different size of Oak Cliff though. But when he drive me through certain parts, I'm like, okay, is this still Oak Cliff? And he's like, yeah, I'm looking up at these houses. I'm like, no. So Oak Cliff is so many sides of Oak Cliff, right? Right. And I can't even tell you because I've lived in so many different parts of Oak Cliff to know like, man, this shit is big. So in any area, you can get it if you're not knowing where you at. You know what I mean? So it's best to operate in your best lane and that's your lane. You know what I mean? And that's what's going to give you the comfort zone to escape these things that goes on, man. It's like, man, listen, the stories you see. Man, you ain't got to tell me. Big T. Big T. Big T is an Oak Cliff, y'all. Just in case y'all didn't know. Big T Bazaar, man. And I'm going to tell you, man, the things I see that my guys send me from over there that's going on. When I first started this spot, they were like, man, I was going over there every... I didn't know why God had me going over to this Big T Bazaar every weekend. I was single at the time. This is before I met my wife. Yeah, I was single. I was single. This was 20 years back. This was a long ways back. And I was going to that Big T Plaza on Sunday in Glendale and all that stuff y'all do over there. I got caught up in y'all's sauce, nigga. Yeah. No. Because you can easily fall into it because it's a lifestyle. It was true culture where you can go to Rochester. You know what I mean? You can go to the park on a Sunday and hang out with the old schools and the young ones coming up just after shooting shit where it's like, shit, the old school people would treat you like they age. Mm-hmm. Like, shit, I was getting lashing. Like, it wasn't no easy. Like, nah, nigga, you had it with us. But you learned a lot. But you learned a lot. You learned a lot. You learned a lot with Dr. Rose, man, to see where... Like, I just was over there yesterday at your new place and to see you there and to see, you know, to hear you talk about Rochester and hear you talk about Glendale and to see where you at now, you know, it makes me think about David in the Bible. Mm-hmm. Where you start off this little Rudy boy. Mm-hmm. But then you turn to this giant killer. Small and stature. Man, be real, is it? I always thought... I got to get the book for myself for this show. No, and the thing about it, though, when you already know you possessed it inside you, you know when to turn into it. You know what I mean? I got you. So it ain't never... That's good. I've always suppressed it. You got to think about it when people are like, oh, you moved with this like, nah, I know when and when not to. That is true control. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I know when to suppress it and to let it out. And that's why I love music. Yeah. I control it. I control the way that I spazz. I control the way I let my emotions out and know that, hey, if people gravitate to us and they do what they don't, hey, it's my lane because I'm only going to track the energy that's for me. So as a kid, right, I've always loved science. Okay. But I've also loved, like, man, listen, I love being outside. Okay. Because I didn't grow with that structure. I ain't... Because, you know, when I always... I used to do my motivation speak. I used to always talk about, yeah, I come from crack kid to scenes. But then you realize, like when your mama heard that shit, you put them back in that trauma. So you got to stop talking in ways of where it still put people that cause the trauma to their demons to pop back up every time you want to go motivation speak about your pain. You know. But it's your truth, though. How can you not talk about your truth? It's my truth, but I don't have to sell it. You know, because I don't have to live there. If you're interested in me, yeah, my truth is, yes, I'm from that. And I overcame it. But some people get caught in their truth about reliving it by every time we get on these things and we've programmed to always be in there. And that's when I was... I had to step away out to get shot. We talked about some of the things, too, it was like, whereas, like, you know, you can't keep reliving it, but your environment makes you keep reliving it. And your environment was starting your head. So, your head now is manifesting everything in real life. I never thought about that before, whereas you said your environment starts in your head. I always believe that your thoughts, before you act out, you think about it first. Everything starts in a thought first. But whereas environment is concerned, because some people are raising a certain environment and if you are doing wrong, and you're trying to turn your life around, like, you know, I have to get out of this area and move into another area. Some people don't even know they're doing wrong. That's the environment. Some people really don't know that they really have a true speed mirror demonism. Some people really... And that's the crazy thing about life. And that's when you have the lyrics say, no, that's all that's gone. That vessel is gone. But one thing I wanted to get back to is you were raised with your mom and dad? I was raised. It was fluid, right? It was situations where... where I talk about it, you know, no problem. Where we was... I grew up in a trap house, basically. You know what I mean? But my parents were... My mom was always in jail and my cousins was... My OGs basically over me. So my environment was... This was normal. And I didn't know it was normal to friends. You just come up like, bro, your house stank. And we'd laugh about it now. But the first thing I'd say was like, damn, nigga, I thought it was normal. Normal. So that's why you become desensitized to a lot of things. And through my whole journey, I had to literally learn how to not become like desensitized. I had to know that that's not your normal. That is not normal, but I learned that by going through school. Normal. Okay. This is a ceiling in a floor now. This is your new ceiling floor. You're nowhere like these people, man. But when you say your house stank, was it the weed, or was it the cocaine? It was crack. It was crack. You know what people smell like? Yeah. So you can smell that smell because it's different when it's smoking or when you just smell it. Cooking and all that. It's got different forms. It's different forms. It's like in chemistry. Like, serious, man. You can literally, I tell people all the time, if y'all really know how all these words These words literally connect and it do those who know what the business is and those who just know what they have to work for money is. In that environment, okay, because you said that you were living in an environment and the smell was there and since you know chemistry now, living in there for, did that affect you? Like, because chemicals, people over a long period of time smelling and inhaling a certain type of chemical. It made me hungry. And when I mean my hunger is like, you know what? I see what a lot of perceived success is, but they telling me go to school so it can't be about money. You know what I mean? Because I was seeing it. I wasn't involved with it because it's like, shit, they telling me go to school, so I'm listening. So obviously it's not, you know what I mean? But I'm knowing, like, this shit ain't right, nigga, shit, I see this shit, nigga. I'm living in drug busts, living shit like a kid going home, coming home from school and knowing that your whole screen-dwelling flow is on the fucking front yard. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because they took it home. But you know how it is? They don't just knock. They can't find any second to hold door off. Everything. They let them know, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We've had to turn some shit up. Yeah. And it was a chance to put us there. But like, oh, it ain't fine, but we feel the fuck up their ass and make them clean it up. Man, I like the fact of who you are now from where you came from. My blood is rolled, man, because you say, you know, when you hit a, it was like you went to school and that changed you. But I went to a place where, in the word, it says that if any man being Christ, he's a new creature. Old things are passed away, behold, all things become new. So when I was in the streets, and I hit my brick wall, I was able to understand through reading the little Geneva Bible, and it helped me to understand who I was. I had to reevaluate and know that I'm fearfully and wonderfully made. But I had to hit that rock in order to know that. In order for me to know that, I had to go through all these different obstacles. But when I hit that rock, I was able to read and understand that I could start all over again. And we live in an age where people ask, what, who is God when you're here? Because you know why? People don't understand metaphors. Yeah. And, but we can talk about who we got the best. You don't understand metaphors, Dan. You don't because I can literally say, you said God saved you. Well, I can say science saved me. But I'm the reason that I, science is the reason why I found God because I knew it was something higher than this. There you go. It was new. I just had to. But science gave every proven fact to what you just talked about. You know, it really said, all right, science and Christianity, they're the same thing. What did all this life come from, themselves? All right? You said all life's comfortable. Imagine everything, Mary. You know, the mitochondria, like the powerhouse for the cell is found in a woman, right? The mitochondria. And that's when you get your mother's DNA. So that is something that's going to always be passed down as your mother's DNA no matter what. Because it's found in the mitochondria, the powerhouse of the cell. So what's the name? Mary had a little, you know? So it matches. So when I was talking earlier with my science teacher, I literally told you, save me. Because you jogged my mind. You know, you jogged my mind. All my science teacher jogged my mind. And I kept asking like, dude, it got to be a way out this shit. Because I was living in shit. But I've always kept a positive attitude about it. Because I knew that it was ways out, manifested. Because I never let my environment in my head dictate my environment that I was living in. And that's so crazy. Because one thing I've always asked everybody who's sitting that seat, always find out about how to raise and so forth. Because being a mother and having kids, you want to know what to do, what not to do. Because I've seen people who say that they come from a good household, wasn't in the hood, didn't need for anything, all of that. But ended up on the streets selling drugs, doing this, doing that. And as a parent, you always wonder, how can you not have your children end up, you know, in jail, on the street, doing all that? You know what's so crazy, right? And this is like a whole system of everything, right? When you solid some women, but they say the wells of a woman cry, alerted everyone to pay attention. But when you solid some women, don't want to listen to her, but are when you mask the lives of women, right? Not yet. But there's just another thing. So how do we pay attention? We say, guess what? Also, why we want the wells of a woman cry? Because we can see pain in the warm eyes. Because it's reflecting the pain that we're seeing. So because we all have this embedded mirror neurons about mimicry. We all want to naturally mimicry to advance. Survival defense, but you got to know how to mimic to say, hey, I may look like it, but I may not. But I'm trying to fit in to get ahead, you know, leeches. Man. So it's like, shit, so it all makes sense. But when they desensitize us to everything and let's say, this is your new norm, but your new norm is like, shit, I thought there was norm already. Because the new norm is, oh, you're going to get out of it. But this is your suburbs. But like, shit, now they pushing us out because they coming back in. I'm going to ask you about him going to school and having change from coming up in that environment and then going into this new environment. Just how was the transition and, you know, they never trust. And also, did any children feel like, oh, you acting like you're better than us just because you changed over like because you did go somewhere where it was better environment. Right. No, so. Did you go to school and go back? No, no, no shit. No, no. No, no, no shit. No, I was kicking it. Like, I don't act like I'm the best student. I don't act like I was goofy as hell and I played a lot in school. But teachers said, man, you are smart. So it gave me leeway because I showed potential. God always working potential. He's going to give you manna, not bread. All right. So you realize that you work in an area of potential, which means that, hey, if I work, people will invest, which means I see some in you. You know, it feels good to say something. I see some in you. It makes you feel whatever I'm doing, I'm doing it right. You know, but when they turn you back on it, when it's truly when they stop talking to you, they're like, oh, shit, you gave up on me for real. You know, like you, that's a cold shoulder. So like I said, I was I was very in tune with emotions early to know that when I used to get picked, a lot of kids used to get sad because it was like, man, it's the girl I always doing this and did. But he always the first and I was like, oh, shit, it's ego. As a kid, so I learned the power of we early. I literally learned the power of we earlier to get them on your side because if you say I, I, I'm going to make them hate you even more. So in that's when you do it, but like literally when you learn the power, we become manipulation, too. Exactly. So in that's when I say, all right, mother fucker, God, I'm going to stop. God, I'm going to stop giving you everything now because your we turned in manipulation. You trying to bless everybody, everybody here for you, nigga. So if it a drain, you know, how did he drain you energy? Because that's how that's how you're giving the power to do what you want to do. And you need to create or destroy is only transfer. But where do you get it? You got to get up and want to do it. You got to go to sleep. You got to wake up. You got to see joy truly coming in the morning to get you there. Just know that life is a game of chess and poker face. Let me ask you about when I came to your office yesterday, it was like an office I never been to. Let me be real with you. Y'all was in there having a good time. Usually when I go in that thing, I'm really like nervous as hell. I'm sitting there waiting my turn. I don't like none of the mess y'all got going on. But I'm going to be rocking with you. You going to fix me. I really didn't figure that out. Yes, I know I already told my wife, I'm going to rock with him. He's going to fix me up. But at the end of the day, I got there, man, and just the way you carried yourself, man, thank you. Because it made me feel like comfortable. You know what I mean? Thank you. So that's that's a that's a dope thing. But how did you come up with that to get away from the traditional ways that offices are being ran because I know you've seen them. You know, and this is how you can go like you can mix both, right? Because, you know, they always say you can't work as a family because it causes blinds. But that's when you have to find God, you know, in order to get that structure that you will find in a Fortune 500 company because they operate off principles. You know, we operate off love. Sometimes love don't have principles, you know what I mean? Because we love our people, so we want to bring them up with us. So now you got to find God in order to operate with principles in love, you know, to know that. Hey, these are the boundaries to set in front of me to know that, hey, everything has a consequence, everything. And with family, it can go thin, like it can go like Lyra Blurt because, you know, you can let yourself and be yourself with your family. But sometimes you can't show that in this world over, you know, and it's dangerous because, you know, they may take that they play poker off time. They'll watch you get riled up and in aggression, it works over here with family. They scare attack this shit. They don't work over here with them because they got them people on the side and they got contrast. And they got to say, hey, I'm coming out to you. If you do something to me, I'm going home good. And I'm going to charge you without charging, you know, where we operate in a thin line of like love, hate. But we go both ways because it's so emotion based. That's the one thing I'm Seattle, because when you treat everybody you work with as family and stuff, sometimes people can, you know, not look at you as the boss anymore. They're looking at you like, oh, I'll come in late. I'll do this. I'll do that. It's like it. But that's when they start respecting your leadership. You know, yeah, you're right. I'm not the boss. I'm your leader, you know, which means I have the bosses provide pay. I provide abundance. OK. You know, I provide a lifestyle to say, hey, this is healthy over here. This is good. If you want to stay in this area, this is going to always be here because teeth, you manifest light through teeth, through smiling. Speak more into life every day, smile. That's what smile stands for. So in what starts with a smile, right? So I'm letting people know, like, over here, it's good over here. You know, we know how to learn. We got to have discernment. But, you know, we get over here. Wow. And that's why I can always say, you know, one line is good. Man, I just go ahead. One thing I hear you speak a lot about is God, but you also speak about science, science. And I know that a lot of people who deal with like Scientologists and stuff like that, they don't believe in God. They believe that everything can be explained. So like miracles and stuff like that, they do not believe in at all. They think about, OK, no, there's a reason that happened and I'm going to search to figure out why that happened. Do you believe that anything happened that cannot be explained? A lot of things happen. I mean, it depends on your mind, though, right? So I can see where they're like, I can't explain. But they haven't been to a place of so much weakness. So you don't do nothing but call on God because your science can get you out of this. You can't like you can literally say, because that's the case. Why do we have mental illnesses? Right. Because there are deters in your genotype and your phenotype. Right. Your phenotype is what you see. Your genotype is what no one sees. Right. So you can get your face and teeth done all the way, but it's still going to present in your genotype, right? It's still going to be in your genes. No matter how much you change, it feels cool. All right. So you can't outrun your genes, right? Chemical imbalances is what causes. Yeah. So the chemical imbalances. So the dopamine and all that gives you these addictions and rushing the nucleus occupants. So it becomes of a thing of like, yeah, you can try to explain it through dope and all that shit and all the neurotransmitters, but you can't because when people, God don't work in you, only he working people. So you describe in one person they had a cascade of events to other people. Right. That's right. So no one alerted that this person is going to be right here at this very moment to save you. And he just so happened to CPU our classes yesterday. Right. No, it's not coincidence. And this guy said he had to go through it. This class he probably want to be to be right here to guide you. When you fell. Wow. And you thought you was about to die. But I said, how do I fuck a miracle? It's not for me because I know I'm real. It's for others who don't believe that I'm real. I got to ask you about we got to go back year and some ago to when you got shot. Um, we got to talk about it in a way to where I got to understand what were you thinking when it happened. And just like having a deal with that. Did you know that this could happen? Did you even fathom it? Man, let me tell you something. You know, there's some told me some syndrome. Yeah. You know, I learned to walk by that a lot. Yeah, because that some told me, some told me that it was really real. It was really real. And some told me it was really real. So you saw the signs, but you just it wasn't aware. Now, I saw both signs to how to save yourself because I brought you here, but you got to go through it because you didn't stop when I told you to stop. You know, and there was and there was the hardest thing that I had to admit before I walked outside. You know, when I'm talking about like stop, I mean like, no, not stop doing bad shit. Now, God places things in your life to say, hey, I'm trying to give you a way to God, your life in a healthier way. Right. And everyone's saying, I am a sinner. I tell everyone, I'm a sinner. Hey, y'all saying perfect, but I know I speak in tribes and tribulations overcome. That's what I do. I speak in perspective. So, you know, and he was talking about, you know, knowing how to use we, you know, to get to what you wanted in life, you know, and when I say we W.E. in knowing that, hey, you know, you can sacrifice the ego. But if you're not sacrificing ego for God, you sacrifice ego for personal gains now. Which make you more of a cause because you just wanting to get money. But this is what he's about money. It was about me knowing that I truly fuck with people so much that God had to take me to bad souls to know that you cannot fuck with everybody. Boy, man, you're on another level. It was so close to like the mode three shooting. Then you got shot. Yeah. Did you even know that he had been shot? Yeah, you know, it is Dallas, man. That's what I'm saying. So I'm like, you know, I knew he was shot. Like it's Dallas. He was shot like in some sort of my old neighborhood. OK, how close was it like the next day? Like literally he was right. It was that's why I was shocked. Like, damn, this shit happened mode three. And everyone was shocked in my office because that's why I was like, where would you where you ever happen? I was in my office. Literally, it's just start the morning up. Shit, just, you know, just cutting on the office, cutting on machines, seeing the first patient. And she's like. They just shot. Yeah. They just shot mode three on what? Yeah, 35, like, damn, for real. And the crazy part, I never met him. No, I met people. I met people who would come through him, you know, people that knew him, like, no, this Dallas, everyone. Yeah, everybody know each other. So, you know, so I never met him. Never met him. Never met him. And so walk me up to the point of where you get shot the next day. I got shot. What is it the next day? What time was it? It was a night. I was like, it wasn't even like a bad night, too. It was like I was. But they held out to me like, I was just trying to get out of my office because I felt something. Okay. You know, when you feel something, it's like, ah, shit. And people are like, ah, man, what you mean? I say everyone's a sinner, so unholy lifestyle can be any goddamn thing, right? Yeah. So it can be like any goddamn thing. We all had them thoughts of sin. But this time I was, well, I was, I was going in a lot of demon-filled and devil places because I was just, I was, I wanted to have fun. Did you feel like you was going to be okay after you got shot? Yeah, I knew it. Knew it, like, knew it. Where did you get shot at? My back. Yeah, I still get on my back because you had it on the last album. I got shot in my back, right? And I said, and I told somebody the other day, I said, I didn't know how much pain I was in until I saw the pain in my mother's face. Wow. That's heavy. Because mirror neurons are a reflection of what we are. And we're in, if you don't see it sometimes, it's when you're lost and you're going, you're like, looking, you're clueless. Your mom's going to always see it, why? Because the science part behind the mitochondria shows like, this is my seed. So what did she, what did you see in her? No, I saw pain. You see pain, you know, the hospital. The pain is no parent wants to die before they get it. Right, exactly. No mom wants to bury their child. That's right. That's why they say the wells of a woman cry because when that really happens, that really is pain. Now what you was about to do? But when you got shot, you didn't see the person who shot you because he was in the back? No, it wasn't even, it was, so it was one of the things where you're walking out. I walk out, I say, I don't even tell the story because y'all getting in the scoops from here. Because no, no, serious. Like this is an ongoing like investigation. Like, hey, yo, this is not even like here. Did y'all even find the person yet? Not even I found the person. This is about the way God works, man. Like the way God works. And when I tell you that just know, it was one of the things where I could say, I could say this because it was a journey that I believe that he ended up with the same hospital with me too. Wow. Yep. It's crazy. That's crazy. So you said you walked out, you didn't see, you didn't see the person, you saw the person and you started running off? That's how he shot you in the back? I said I wasn't by myself. You wasn't by yourself? No, I got a gun on me. Okay. Wow. But when you walked out? Because, and I say this to Floyd, like no, it really because protection was, you always say, how do you know? Before it happened, a patient came to me and said, something don't feel right. I just feel like you're going to get shot leaving this office. What? Yeah. And the lady, it's so close to life that I don't even say this. What time did they tell you that? Was that like early that day or like right before you walked out? This is why, not before I walked out, but this is one of the things I can tell you, this is why I slowly believe in... Messengers. Messengers. Spiritual gods. Yeah. Like in your body was started walking in a way to prepare. And that's when they be talking about, man, he was spoke his death. Now he felt it. And he was just preparing. You know, when people like me, he was talking about death so much, not just a lot of artists or a lot of people. A lot of people. A lot of big time, like motivation speakers that know that's very in tune. They know that their inspiration is coming because they have done that purpose. But then at the same time I was talking about that yesterday, I think, and I was saying, yes, it can be that, but then some people speak it into existence. Sometimes you can say something so much that it becomes your reality. No, it's those who don't understand the power of the tongue. But when you truly understand that, when you sacrifice your flesh and give it to God, right? The true meaning of spiritual growth is saying, hey, this flesh is not of me. I sacrifice because a devil ultimate goal is to trap me. And ultimate trap is death. So the ultimate chess movie say, hey, God, I surrender my soul to you. I am now killing the flesh, nor the hey, my thoughts are your thoughts now. But ultimate for him is death, but for a believer is that I'm not going to the Lord. So that's my salvation. It's not like, you know what I mean? And then you start working on building a bondage that he's gonna prepare for you, heaven on earth. And that's when you sit back and start truly listening and waiting. He's not gonna come when you want him, but that's where he's right on time, right? God damn it, man. Shit, as I talk about it, man. They say when Jesus in the neighborhood, you better sit back and fuck him, because he might duck on your damn dough. And guess what? I'm waiting, waiting patiently. But guess what? They took that out and said, sound like it's coming on your door. Well, God damn it. Well, if it's sound like Jesus, you believe in sound. I believe Jesus is coming with his blessing because his sound is imaginary. Well, God damn it. It's sound like Jesus, right? Right, it's sound like God. Well, guess what? I believe in something that is not there. Let me ask you this. I gotta ask you this. Like, how long was it before you could get back to work after you had got shot? Oh, shit, it wasn't one of the things that... You went the next day. Hell no, man. Listen, let me tell you something. Listen, you're a doctor, so I'm feeling like you're a dentist, but you know doctors. No, no, no, no. You're a nurse, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, and I know myself. Okay. I took my time, man. Listen, man. No, let me tell you something. Your environment creates your reality. You can manifest great shit, you can anxiety away to some other shit, too. So it's like, I can't be around people while I'm rebuilding what I am. What I once thought I was me. You know, so it's like, no, I gotta really get by myself. You know, and then you really start just paying attention to a lot of things, and you start realizing like, shit, if this is phase you, you're gonna get another thing to phase you. Because, you know, I did shake it off. Not in a bad way, but it was like, if you know me, my favorite saying is, you can be all right. Shit, I asked him. Anything, if I said, if they say, no, I gotta teach you something, you can be all right. Way before I just was hate being religion, it was like shit, you know what I mean? There's a guy I used to work with that I used to hate when he said that. When you're a kid, and no matter, you know, you come into somebody with your woes and you want advice or you want him to feel sorry for you or whatever, that, oh, you can be all right. I'm like. Nah, that person truly believed you're gonna be all right. Right, but you didn't understand that before. It annoyed you before, but as you got older, as I got older, I realized. And another thing, I'll just interject into that when you say you're gonna be all right. Before that, I feel like a person that talks about their issues, a lot of times it was worship and worry. Well, you always say that. And this is what we talked about, I can't keep, no, no, you just worship, worry. And that's why you keep talking about it, so you're creating it in your life. And what we talked about early when I said, I can't keep on talking about my mom. Yeah. Because I don't wanna keep creating that thing. What are you gonna talk about when you go on this podcast? Like, seriously, she's just been listening to me. I respect my elders. So I listen. It's like, as you keep saying it, it means, you don't wanna, you're not ready to walk in it. Which means I can't force you. I can't force you to make a move. No, God is the only one who leads her. Exactly. So it's like, you gotta do that when you want to. So it's like, I'm gonna let you have your side of your perspective. Man, I gotta ask you about this. I got, you know, I got more. When Sean Cotton, he was on this show. My guys, my brother. He spoke about you in a way, at this time he was having issues and it was a Charleston white thing. But he brought your name into it. He said, you had issues with whatever the case may be. But he had this thing where he spoke about y'all's friendship and that it was sacrificed in a way because he felt like from what he was doing in his life, it made a schism between you two. You know, like y'all wasn't talking for a period of time. No. I'm gonna tell you some real shit. I pray for Sean. Because I know what he's doing. He has to put himself in harm's way to go report news on rap, rap culture. You know what I'm saying? He's like, Lyra, he was in D.C. Like I followed his journey, I followed his journey. I prayed for his steps. I'm like, man, listen, you out there post, I'm here like that, don't be posting in D.C. like that. But ain't the people love you so. I seen it. Like, no, no. He was live in it anyway. So nah, I never saw it as that. The best thing you can to get someone is prayer and send those spiritual things. Like nah, man, nah, nah. If you're looking at phone right now, tell Sean, hey, love you, bro. You may not tell his back, but hey, shit. I don't give a damn. That's the way I do. I just say, hey, what's up or whatever. For real, I'm a consistent person. All right, you ain't fucking with me today. I'll call you next week. But I don't take nothing personal because his journey and I was parallel. Like I always used to say, like, hey, you say, say cheese. I say, smile. Man, if there's a smile. That's heavy. We were the same entrepreneurial style people. We just entertained different crowds, but what he used to tell me, well, and that's what they like. I can't speak on what he used to tell me because he was like, hey, man, why are you doing this? He would say, like, I used to tell Sean, I know what I'm doing. You know, because it was my journey to live. It's my journey to live. And if I know my whole thing is, hey, I'm making a difference. I don't look at these people as this or that. I look at everyone that lives in an in-between percutory phase where every soul has a chance to say, hey, man, listen, you do have a good side. I'm going to show you what a good side looked like. He seems to really value your friendship when he was on this show. That's what I didn't even know about y'all's friendship. But when I asked him something else, he counteracted that. And he'd say that Dr. Rose, and he was really passionate about not jeopardizing what he had with you. You know, I'm telling that to him. I think it was when we're in this, like we don't never, we never spoke. We spoke at one time, it was all like, we was like, hey, you know what? I mean, we, she didn't get that. For real, we literally say, yeah, we bro. That's real, that's real. You know what I'm saying? It went in from by like us. It was like, I swear to God, and I don't speak on no man I never met, but we can read between lines. And like, I speak on no man I never met. Why? Because I always tell me, if it's time for me, if God wanted me to meet you, we can meet you. Yeah, that's heavy. I'd say it to everybody. You know what I'm saying? So like, I want to introduce myself person to person first and say, hey, this is a spirit that I can be around a person I can be around or not. You know, we ain't got to go heavy in the spirit side. We're the person I can be around vibe with. Shit, nah, I'm going to go with my vibes. So, but nah, it was just, I think it was one of the things where we all know, like man, that shit ain't nothing. Ain't nothing. Like literally, like that fast, it wasn't even like it was a next day, two days type of shit. But I think Sean distance always, gotta hear everyone say, Sean man, he just get goes by no Sean. When your person is have about 40 people calling your phone every day, your anxiety is up. Because of those 40 people, five things can go wrong. When your person is always in an operating space of creating and trying to use the energy to create, sometimes you don't want to deal with this shit. You know, so it's like nah, I've always understood and like bro, I can look at me and I'll say, bro, I understand what you're going through. But that's why people keep multiple phones of like close friends call this one and everybody else know it. But what if your business and family? Oh my gosh, we said that earlier. So they call both phones. That's right. So yeah, your phone is yeah, cause you can get news on any phone now. Yeah. So how do you, how do you, yeah, how do you deal with work like balance? No, no, no, my life is everything I live. And that's why it's so cool because I've always, I've always operated in a space, in my space, literally. Like, and that's what made me comfortable. I always knew like, Hey man, you good, don't you? I create, I create art, you know, I create merch. I create teeth for a living. So I operate in spaces, I'm always operating as a servant, you know, because I must give my best in order for people to truly feel my energy. So I believe in servitude. So I know you said to me yesterday that you just gave your life, you know, to Christ. Yup. Couple of days ago. Yeah, damn right, shit man. What prompted you a couple of days ago to do that? Because it was the verbiage, right? That follows the actions, you know, because you have to be ready to do that. You know, like it's really one thing is you can't be crowned before you're ready. And if you let somebody else crown you before you're ready, you'll be like, you're just blindly and blindly. And what did you change? Oh, habits, patterns, persistencies and just knowing that I had to have a presence. And it's all about deciding how I want to be present. And that's why when he, we talked a month ago, I was like, I'm not ready to talk right now. Not saying I was an ego, ego-matted person, like nah, I'm doing the best thing that's for me to my mentality states when I actually start to put my voice on here, that I am firm in what I believe in and letting everybody know I am a fucking sinner. But I do believe in, you know, right for wrong. But I do believe in walking and choosing the right way, trying to and not letting a hurry circumstance or desperation choose a bad outcome for me, man. Like, and that's the biggest thing that scares, I would scare anybody. People don't, people fear not coming back from failure. We know failures there. We everywhere know everyone, you gotta struggle to win. But what if I don't come back? But you gotta find- But you can't live in what ifs. You just gotta go through it. And there always, there would if the in-between phase. So you gotta trust now. And when you get to the point of saying, like who we can really talk to for your problems? Because if you preach, you're gonna be all right, right? If I preach, I'm gonna be all right. Which I mean, I truly gotta feel that way. So I gotta be calm during the storm. You know, Jesus went on Noah's Ark and went to the back and slept. He didn't fall asleep. And then he just said, you know, if it goes to sleep, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You're gonna be good. I know storms come and I know storms go. But I gotta know to keep a good mentality about me. You know, like I've seen that storm before. I know how to get through it. Just stay calm. And when you stay calm and like alleviate all the distractions, you know, you can break away and break through. I think as long as Jesus on the boat, as long as he in the midst of your situation for me, that's what I, and I teach a different way. You know that you open to, I feel like you have an open knowledge for God. That's the way I teach. Yes, sir. And so I feel like, because you have to, whosoever will let them come. So that's anybody. That could be anybody. It could be any type of person. I don't care how you believe. There's a God that's big enough to understand you. So I don't play around with putting people in boxes. So I let people grow. So no matter how you speak, what you say, I'm not here to accuse anyone. I'm here to uplift because I know already God's big enough for the job. Yes, sir. And that's how I look at things. And that's leadership. Yeah. Right. That is true leadership. Knowing that in order to be a leader, you must follow and have a relationship. You can't have leader without a relationship. That's how you gain leadership. Is then it becomes a pattern. Then it becomes ingrained view when interior to know that, hey, this leader of the ship is going to leave me because he have a moral standard. Man, that's heavy. My next question is, okay, cause you are a nurse, but then you saw where you could make more and been dentistry. Right? And no, it was this is how it happened, right? No, this is how it happened, right? Yes, I saw opportunity to make more, right? But it was ego. Man, I want to be no damn male nurse. I was serious about meet the fuckers. I was like, shit, no, man. You got me freaked up. Me going fucked up. That part of the movie, man. Listen, let me tell you something. Then it became another thing. You ain't a doctor. You're a dentist. God damn it. I can't win it, man. No, that's real. God damn it. You know what, in black community, we know how to joke about every goddamn thing. But guess what I have? Hey, I'm some motherfucker. What are you? I'm coming back at you with motherfucking bum shells. You talk about me. We can have a scoring match. Hey, this is why I say, hey, hey, hey, I can lead like God. I can lead like Hillel. Which one you want to meet, motherfucker? But when you went into dentistry, you just went through. I'm sorry, I was just joking with everybody. What part of me? What's the name? You ended up, you specialized in veneers, right? It's not even specialty. But because that's what I, when I hear about Dr. Rose, that's what I hear about. You know, you wouldn't even know that I love doing regular dentistry. I love meeting people, shit. So it's like, yeah, I'm like, damn, I'm known for, I want to be known for cosmetics. Yes. But like, damn, I ain't know it's gonna be veneers. But like, I'm good at it because, you know, I've always wanted to fix teeth. My teeth was fucked up growing up. I ain't fix one teeth until I became a dentist. And it was after I was fixing everybody else teeth. Hell yeah, I had to go through braces and everything, man. Really? Hell yeah. So if you went through braces, why you had to fix it? Because my shit was there for a glove. Braces didn't fix it. Really? Hell no. No. You said you need something else, man. I thought braces can fix anything. Yeah, you had to come and got intervening and say, give veneers. It's like, I gotta make you look good, man. You gonna help somebody's one day. Yeah, you, go ahead. I hear badden things about veneers. Cause I hear you have what you say composite. I hear there's two different kinds of veneers. Some of them last longer. Some of them don't last as long. Some of them, I see a lot of people getting veneers right now and not realizing that, or what I heard is that you have to do maintenance. Some people get it and feel like, oh yeah, I'm good. I'm set. I look good and I look like this for the rest of, I mean, then I also see some people with veneers that I'm like, looks so unrealistic. When I mean unrealistic, some of them are so white that I'm like, that's not even natural white. That's like blinding white. Like, why would you even do that? You know, people are just creative. Like for real, I'll be like, man, let me tell you something. You think I can fit that on there, but I can try. I'm gonna try, man. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you the truth first of all. Hey, I have some serious concerns. Oh, you tell them the truth. Yeah, yeah, I don't lie. The fuck I'm livin' you for? No, seriously, because you have to like this. So I have to love it. So I'm fit to give you some real artistic abilities now. I'm not fit to sit down and play with you because this is money involved. You see motions, it's time, spend, it's energy. That, hey, you know, you can go either way. You can be crying and say, I love. Thank you, Dr. Roy. He's like, man, no, Dr. Roy, let me just try again. So no, I'm gonna give you my best try. Even if I don't like it, I'm gonna tell you like, this is what I wanna do about it. This is what I wanna change about it. That's love. Because I'ma always have to present you with your best light in my best light because you are my billboard. But also you gotta feel comfortable and say, yeah, I went the rose, or yeah, I went the rose. You can't be like, yeah, man, I don't fuck a rose. Ah, hell no. You don't know. So you're gonna have to have maintenance to keep it up? Or can I go through it one time? I mean, every six months. So yes, you gotta have maintenance, man. It's crazy, man. Like, I'm telling you, if you didn't know, like, Dennis, you're so foreign to my people. And this is why I say, man, God must put you in his mouth for a reason. You know, to show you, we can be all I can be. They ain't doctors, period, cause they don't even go to a healthcare doctor. Just less a dentist. Man, listen, cause that's the first thing we cut when we ain't got nothing in the hood. We ain't picking up damn business insurance. It was wrong, shoot, you better brush your teeth. Oh, wipe it with a cloth. Yeah. Yeah, you talkin' about a boy, you better wipe with some, a Tylenir. I just, I'm trying to get over in a Rubio Teetlap. When I think about the Dallas market Dennis, I think about Dr. Watts. Then I think about you. You know what? In my mind, I think about Dr. Watts and the goals. I said, now we got my boy, Dr., I mean, Dr. Watts and Dylan, I got Dr. Roe doing the Beliers. I mean, have anybody ever told you? You know, you know, it's so incredible about that feeling on that, man, we will always be in the center of culture. Okay. You know, it's always like when people like, man, why are you out, I was gonna be in the center of it anyway. God gave me this vessel of entertainment. So, shit, you better brace it how it comes now and love this energy. Because it's like seriously, you either got goals or you want to smile. That's it. So it's like, when you do that, you got to operate in responsibility and leadership now and start telling people like, I know you're young, but you can't get them right now. You know, I know this, but you need this. What's the youngest person that ever came in and I'd say that one? I done had probably by, you know, with anybody that's in plus my Instagram being kind of accessible to me a lot. It's heavy. So I would say a lot of young kids ask. I was on that. Really? And this is why it makes you want to walk in leadership now because it's like someone has to educate. You know, like, hey, you're good, man. Listen, this is just for you to go through. It's going to mold you to appreciate these people. You get them now, you're going to fuck around underneath these in five years because you're not going to appreciate them. You know? I think a lot of people who, especially with kids, I really think they need to see like a counselor, a psychologist or something first because I think a lot of people, when they do that, they're saying that, okay, I'm not pretty. I'm not, you know, I think they have to find out that they're beautiful inside first before they fix anything outside because they're just never going to be satisfied. That's why cosmetic is so popular right now because people are trying to get the perfect perfection, which is there's no such thing. It's scary because once you, once you try it and you start realizing, like, oh, character's fist are coming right now. If you can't fix anything else. So you start realizing like, yep, shit. I feel to see the people ugly side. They got ugly side because you look good. Right. But what else you got to give me now? Ugly. Oh, shit. God damn it. Now my patience. My patience, I love it. I'm talking about people in general shit. Something that stuck out to me is the jury, man. I mean, you, I mean, yeah, you, this rap image is here in front of ECEO on Boss Talk 101. The change is dangling, you know what I'm just, I'm just trying to figure out like, when did you take on this love for this jury like this, man? Listen, when you were, I think like, I was getting the spirits of one of those kings and kings, right? Didn't know they just got to have that shit, man. That's real. Egyptians. Like, just make a word all around. I like it. I love it. Man, I'm like, you can't bear it. Well, they did. They did. You have a real. They did. They did. They trapped it too. And they made traps. So, I know you remember when you tried to get it. And guess what happened? You sure did get hit with a bunch of boulders on top of your head. Yeah, they not. They predicted this shit out their life too. Like, no, I am smart enough. No, I'm not thinking you. So, and that's when, you know, they were like very highly intelligent. Why? Because they knew the ultimate thing was death. So, they made device, very intricate traps after they was dead, right? So, you know, like, they have a place to meet. Like, it's called the place of gods where they share knowledge. They always, like, every kingdom have a place of gods where they share knowledge. And now, in the, like, when you put yourself in the Egyptian and you realize, like, what is the place where all the gods can meet and share knowledge? Well, they took away church and school. So, where are they gonna share knowledge yet? We don't read. We don't believe in history because we know we all look in the fruits. So, that's why a lot of people are mimicking them because they really don't want to share knowledge. You just mimic. And that's why you, like, all the, there's no true, like, faces that goes with the character now. Okay, but here it is again. That was a journey I just took this time. You were six figures on your neck. You got six figures on your neck. Yeah. Yeah, pretty. If not, I know, I'm kind of... Like, it's crazy. Like, I don't... Yeah, but this is real. Like, people would look at you and be like, damn, you know what I'm saying? Damn, he got it, man. You know what I'm saying? And they don't know what you went through to get to it, but it sends us... Went through wars. A stereotype of, who does he think he is that he gets to walk around with six figures on his neck like this? I don't think it sends a stereotype to those who are insecure that never met my energy before. Okay. Because if I'm big enough to transfer to the whatever medium that I came through and touched you that way, man, goddamn, thank you, God, for letting me walk in his light. Shit, man. But let me must know that, hey, man, I know people out there that are too... They're too sent to seek and destroy. Too materialistic. Yeah, so, and that's why I told... I was with some kids today. I literally told them, like... And one of them said, what is... I told him, what's the success? He's like, money. I said, don't be distracted. Don't be distracted. Then I inserted it. I had to give them energy. I had to transfer my energy to the crowd, but I did it through money, right? And I literally said, hey, do that this whole program. Y'all knew me, so y'all trust me to give y'all money, but don't be a fool and dance for money. Because there's not success. That is it. Because anybody can make you dance. But you don't even seem as if you would have to even be in the rap field. You're a successful dentist. I don't rap. You do. I speak. I got the proof right here. I got the damn proof. As my team, we were around me. We talk about under-month periods and everything about life. And I literally speak in a medium that, hey, it's performance art. I literally look at it as performance art. To heal, get over it, get it out there. I'm not literally forcing it upon people, you know? But I love this shit out of it. And if I appreciate it, everyone... You good at it? Like, no, it's one of the things where it's not. This nigga really... You do this. If we go back into it, some of those sounds were created with voices that we and my team have made. It wasn't even no beat. We just creating voices, you know, and literally adding the engineer into the beat. So people really know, like, now we really do this and that's why we're more interested in entertainment, you know, because we really have a real brand, a true brand called Rose Aesthetics. Rose Aesthetics. Man, if it just smelled out of it right now. Log on to win another chance to win another. Free your way of all those teeth. Because now we market for our brand. It's through our entertainment. They just log on to win or they have to buy one of those. If you enter a chance, you can buy a DigiPak to enter a chance. It gives you more route foods. It gives you more entries, right? It gives you up to 900 entries and you buy more of those, right? So you can also enter for free. And enter for free by just sending you email. You can share it and everything. So it's one of the things where we really do push of things where we try to physically transform what we're doing to people and give them something tangible. You know, like, hey, you're not just buying, you know, a sale but you bought or something that you can't touch. It gives you some tangible. So we have a DigiPak. We talk about, it's almost like a prelude to my book, you know, where it's talking about some of the things that went through. What is that book coming out? Man, listen, I had to find a girl first. I literally told, like, I literally say, like, I mean, you gotta have a journey. You gotta know what you book, man, like the Odyssey. You gotta know how to take it on a journey. And literally talk about the journey. You can't write a book too early. Man, ain't done living. If shit ain't my story in clothes, I'll write a book, but what's next? God, all right. All right, this is what I'm gonna do to your mother's ass. Come this, nigga. You know, no, nigga, let me, let me stop. Let me live a little bit and let me slow down. When is the drawing? When the drawing is actually, it closes this weekend. Man. Oh, shit. Yeah, get this out. No, but shit, whenever it comes out, listen, because it's, man, we send up systems in place to always make sure that we give back to our people through smiling and helping those who truly want to speak life into existence. You know, speak more into life every day. Top three artists of all time, dead or alive, any genre. Number one. Who me, top three artists? Man, listen. I gotta have them. You're top three. You're top three. My top three. Any genre. Number one of all time. I don't have a number one. Dead or alive. I have a fluid man. No, no. Dead or alive. We only do three. Number one. They've been doing this ever since I started this show. I need you on this one. My era, I'm gonna say my era. Lil Wayne is a go to my era. Okay, so Lil Wayne. Number one, number two. Kanye. Number three. Number three. Jay-Z. No, no, I like it. I like it. I can rock with it. You said Lil Wayne first, so we in the South, I always, I cut up about it. I be cut up. If you don't say the South, I'm going in on you. But you did great. I got you, man. No, for real. And then you went Midwest, right? And then you went all the way up to these goal. You doing your thing. Hey, no, man. No, because they all, they all attack, like, they all attack it from a different angle. Yeah. They all attack it from a different angle. And when you look at it and I swear, I used to think this all the time. Like, man, Jay-Z ain't a creator as Kanye, but then you think about like, well, the art of being solid is golden. You know, and we seen it right now with Kanye. I was just about to ask you about Kanye with what he just did, wearing that white, what is it, white lives matter t-shirts? What do you think about that? I think the message was not appropriate at the end of the day because it kind of confuses his audience. And that's the biggest thing that he had going was people had surety in Kanye. But now you're like, you so go back and forth and with the wish you watched, it's like, man, what do people stand for you with? I want to ride with you on this, but when I talk with you and them people, the naysayers come and say, I told you he was going to do it again. And like, God damn. How do I stay? Like, no, I can't stand besides a person who don't know himself right now. So it's not that we give up on Kanye. We just can't stand besides you because you're going through the imbalance. Because ever since he lost his mom, everybody was always was saying- The whales of a woman cry. Going crazy. He's been going crazy. That's what everybody's saying. Only person to know they can tell him he's truly in pain is his mom. And she's gone. And she's gone. So then you rely on over your queen, but your queen, her idols is the entertainment. So who can truly tell you? Who can truly tell you when you've been called a genius by everyone? And everything was in your control until it wasn't in your control. Then you realize, gee, you don't have no fucking control. But then he go back and forth playing with God. But then you want him to say you, but you go back and forth like, God is good, I love war and Jesus. Like, dude, that's a true thing of blasphemy. Like, that is really saying, using the Lord's name in vain. That is true where it's like, though I can't even understand this message because it's coming from a vessel that's weak. He's, again, you know how I am. I just told you how it was earlier. I don't put anybody in a box. We're all evolving. And we're all, we are working progress. All of us. Yes. So when I look at all of the different people and where they're at, like you said, there's different things about all three of those people you name them. You name them for a reason because there's something great in them. And you've seen that great part and you say that's my number two because you've seen that and therefore we don't even, as he evolves, as he evolves, like I talked to people that talked to him. I talked to a guy that talked to him today, no cap. Like we, this thing go hard. Like for some of the things I've seen him do for other people, it can't be, nobody else could have done it. I don't think we forget. You know what I'm saying? Like this is heavy, man. That's the true part of like saying, like getting the foundation, coming back home, getting grounded. You know, having someone to tell you, like I see what you're going through, you're not alone. Yeah. You know, but when you ostracize everyone in the way and say you're not alone, we're saying you're a reflection of what you're doing spiritually and mentally. So it's like, we understand him. Yeah. But he keeps screaming and saying, we don't understand you. No, we do. So what do we do now that we know we're at this place with you? You, we, people have all, a lot of people have destined, Kanye to be this leader of the new generation, right? So he's saying, people are saying, can't we ready to ride with you? Now do something. You're fighting the system, but it's the inconsistencies that people can't stand by sometimes. And it's like God comes in pattern. He's like, you know what you're going to get from him. He's going to save you. Just not when you want to, but it's like you speak, Kanye speaks both sides. You think about Kanye, Kanye doing exactly what Kanye is supposed to do. We sit here and talk about Kanye right now, because this is also a marketing strategy. This is, this is something. I don't think he's marketing, man. I'm just telling you when he does thing, when he get ready to move, he move in a way. You remember when he took that, that mic from Taylor Swift, and then he comes out in an all red suit and says, what he said, let's take your toes for the douchebag and all that. This dude is doing this every single time. Let me tell you something. Coming from a person that I always sell my jeans, right? Everyone always say, something called justification efforts. And contractual, I can't even talk about that because I can't think of that right now, but I'm gonna be real. But justification efforts is when you do something and you justify it for it, and literally like make it, read the reason why it happened, right? It's playing God. But it's not the truth. No, no, like nah, man. He's just so gifted with his words, persuasion. You know, he can talk you into everything. He can put on a good performance. Just say, yeah, that was on purpose. No, Kanye acted on instinct and realized that he do know about God. So he can come back and say, yes, but you only know, like, you know, you're just acting instinct. But then when you're highly intelligent, you know, like, ah, God was bringing me through it. So just like you're highly intelligent. So you can say, yeah, it's marketing because you know he may have something bigger coming. Correct. But it's the way you use the name while you go through it. Do you think he does something bigger after he make a move or do you think he already know he's gonna do something bigger before he make a certain move? I think Kanye is all... You see what I'm saying? No, no, no. I don't understand what you're saying. Kanye and that's when it goes to science which when came first, right? The thought of the manifestation. You know, the manifestation of the actions, right? I mean, you always go through that. So in this, well, highly intelligent people build with all time. And that's the whole thing about problem solutions because you can think away all the way to each one of them. But guess what? You cannot control people. So you got to learn the power of affordance. Mm, mm. We got to talk about this, though. Mm-hmm, go ahead. I want to get into this, man. Yes, I do. You got him enough time, man. Oh, yeah, man. It's the same man. Dr. Rose Flight 717. What is that about? What is this name about? It's about doing shadow work, knowing your darkness in order to understand the light. And that was a phase in my life when I was going through, coming back out to getting shot and going through just dealing with people and dealing with anxieties some sort of some of the days leading up to how I got shot. And they were starting to come back into my mentality when I was trying to overcome it. You got anxiety now, still? Nah. You good? Because, you know, God, I was going to supply you with health, well-protection, abundance, and all those things, so you got to put it around you. You got to go make it to afford it to put it around you. So you got to be smart and make smart decisions. And we all look for mentors to help us make smart business deals, and that's the same thing as. Every mentor is a spiritual advisor. Mm-hmm. Let's talk about Cartier. Yes, Sideriski. Let's talk about it. What was the process? What made you write it? Ah, man. I don't write for one. You don't write? No, I don't. You punch in? I don't eat punch in. I literally go freestyle, the whole song. The whole song. And I literally, I'm like, all right, cool, I'm cool, y'all. One time. One shot. If they ask me, listen, these people behind me have literally seen me freestyle whole song, and let's go back and clean up a few words, and it became, I'm like, Man, that shit hard, Faith. No. Was a freestyle. Faith was a freestyle. Fly was a freestyle. Viral was a freestyle that me and Masi started working on. With us was a freestyle. Do it better was definitely a freestyle. Cartier was, something, did you drink, you know? Yeah, that was a freestyle. It was. IDK was a freestyle. Who? IDK was a freestyle. But. What's the one with the, okay, give me, run me down through the visuals. Have you put visuals with any of these? Yes. Which one? We got visual to right now, which is doing well. We got visual to viral. Explain right now to me. Right now is the song that talks about me overcoming and actually realizing that hey, it's time to step up and be the person that guy has caused you to be, or be the person that you thought you were at the time. And I was truly going through a phase of figuring out what I want to do because I felt like I've always stuck. Even though I was progressed, I just felt stuck because, you know, I- Spiritually. Yeah, spiritually. Like, truly, spiritually. But I would see these signs and there's something which is telling me this is the way to go. And I would listen, but I just still feel stuck. You know, you can always, you can listen and still, like, you know, and just still feel stuck. Like, yeah, I'm doing what you tell me, like school. Like when all is saying go to school, not knowing like, man, these niggas really trying to protect you. You just like, these niggas saying go to school, go to school. So that's how I was. So people would tell me leaning is why I was still just leaning. Who produced this? So right now. And this is the best thing about my, my skill, my resources. My patient. All right. Yes, sir. We worked out a deal. I mean, he got some bad ass beats on there, man. Gave me a whole bill package. Power exchange and resources, man. So gave me a whole, I actually got a one, a Grammy producer on there. Yes. Slick music. What's his name? Slick music. Yes. And, and yeah, we, we bought it. We bought it. Man. So it was, yeah, God has blessed me with this. So it's like, I've always said, yes, man. It was one of the things where the opportunities was in my life. So I wouldn't just, this is how I know entertainment was made for me. Cause these people was coming in and we was changing. You know, I have a service. What about viral? Talk to me about viral. What was the process in it? What, how did you, how did you come up with it? Oh, no, I see the process was we was in the studio after work and me and Maize was together. Man, I managed to put a beat on cause I like hearing beats first for the first time in the studio. So it can jog my memory the first time. Right. And I can literally get on my line. I read, I read, I read it. I go to the whole process. Hey Maize, replay, replay, replay, replay. You're like, what the hell you just say, bro? I said, run it back. You gonna hear some words? Then he run it back. He like, whoa, bro, I know you just said that. I like, yeah. Then like, go clean it up now, bro. All right. I like, nah, nah, I'll just clean it up. It's good. But you kind of mumbled in these places. A little place to go clean it up. You know, then I got so good at that. Then I literally in a freestyle. I said, I like confidence. So I had a mumble. I learned to shoot before I had to jump. More levels to the more loner. And I literally was thinking like, oh shit. I literally talked about my mumbley part when I like confidence. Like literally like, oh shit. It was the truth. And I was like, damn. And yeah, like, so you just know how to turn on and like to go speak from the heart. But when you hear a beat and anything you speak about at that moment, is that something you normally like just went through or there's some things that like hold on for the time? And that's the whole part of knowing about heuristics, right? Shortcuts memory. You speak about what you're around. That's why a lot of people around all of them demon plays in it. All they do is rap by killing. You know? But I just need to hear that. So, right now it viral. Right now viral. What's the next one that you got a visual with? Man. Where's the one we got? The last one. Rose from the pavement. Rose grew from the pavement. I like that. I got a visual to that one. That one's hard. More of a punchline. Like where the true nature born and heartbreak kid cause I do believe in veganism and all that stuff but I ain't just a true vegan. I'm a constant eater. All right, motherfuckers. I ain't even gonna stop me from eating. If I need some meat, I'm gonna fucking eat it. I am going to be a true carnivore. I am mean it, man. Listen, I'm making masks for so long and not eating meat. I can tough it out and oh yeah, I can do it. I can do it. But sometimes I need meat. Not real time. Like for real. I ain't one of the niggas who ain't like, I don't know, I'm a tree hugger. I respect y'all, man. That's true, pal. What's your favorite on that? No, what's your favorite? Rose grew from the pavement. I don't want to know. I want to talk about it with you. So there was a lot of word play in that because a lot of people, it comes to the thing where it's like you do want to see if you got penmanship. You know, and they want to know on songs I want to write down and like just play some riffs. Mom see the shit in the face. You been in hot water, got a filter through this percolate. You know, then you know, damn, beam, your son. Then you know, beam is like coffee. And hot water percolate is what boils coffee and all this shit. So you start like, oh, shit, I don't really do this shit. I'm a nerd, duh. Not real. That's love. To me, the first guys in the mask are trying to perpetrate. You hold me in a bag in the morgue from all the perky eight. Shit get fucking ugly in them goals. I'll see the syrup you take. Ain't no malice in my heart. I've been free since free was judging 106 and Parker. Man, stop playing. I like that, man. But when you really think about the process of this music, how long did it take you to do this project, right? It took time. I want you to ask, what did you ask a while ago? What's your favorite on this whole project? My favorite in phases, because once I create a song, I'm like, oh, it's a hit. Man, I replayed it in my face to burn out my head and like, oh, it's just suck. But I create that album in phases. Like, literally, some of them songs are old. OK. You know, some of them songs released, but they was like two years old. But it was in a phase that I was going to because, you know, that's how I was feeling. And it still became irrelevant. It's like, damn, they must be a vitamin. And you still feel the same way. But that's real. But it was one of the things where it's like, nah, my favorite song, it's hard to even say my favorite song. I would say the other side is one of my favorite songs. Also, Faith. Faith is my favorite song. Like I literally say, Faith and everyone loves right now. Like everyone loves right now. A lot of people love viral because it's a bop, you know. And Do It Better, a baby loved it, damn song. Oh, yeah? Shout out to Baby. Shout out to Baby. Man, when I say when I first, I sent Baby that song, this boy shit with him. You know, in literally, he said, he called me. You know, he's like, hey. So the viral one. Nah, nah, it's Do It Better. OK, Do It Better. That's a downside. Do It Better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I don't know. I don't want that in my phone. Bitch, turn. I don't even know. Man. So that boy, Baby liked it doing better. Man, literally, man, when I swear to God, we was also like, baby, what the hell? Then we saw a plane like, oh, shit, he said that. Like, literally, once again, the song that I didn't know I was singing. And when I actually realized, damn, I said, six calls all unknown. I must literally have some plan to play on my phone. Man, that's crazy. How long have you been in Dentistry? Dentistry? Yeah. I would say since I started dental school in 2012, I was doing dental school programs like in 2010 and 11. And since it's, I would say, correct me if I'm wrong, it's a predominantly white industry? Hell yeah. OK. I respect y'all too. Hey, nah, I play that game too. Have you faced racism in it? Could I ask a question? Have I faced racism? I don't even think the thing is, man. And this is why it's so deep. It's just morals for them sometimes. And that's the scary thing about it. It ain't racist. It's just their morals. And that's why the white lives. And tradition. And that's why, yeah. Some people don't know any better because that's what they've been taught. And that's why the white lives matter sure was a problem, right? Wasn't because a black lives matter was still in this? No, because, yes, the financials part of black lives matter, maybe it was fucked up, but the pain that we still inherit for years ago, why do you think they want to invest into our pain in music wise? Because they know it's real, nigga. They know it's real magic in it. They know it's real. Someone said, yeah, that boy got some pain in his voice. I know he go hard. Well, duh, look what he's been through. He's finally get a chance to lash out and guess what? Someone took advantage of it and they profited off of it. But y'all say he saw it so, but he was just trying to find a way out. And he just found the wrong person to give it to, to his pain too, because they didn't nurture it. They didn't say grow, because his pain is always gonna last, but you gotta know how to nurture it. You know, like, hey, it's gonna be some good days and the bad days, but I won't complain. So when you're faced with it, I mean, that you just walk off it because you know exactly what it is. Yeah, it's pain. And people are like, man, you look at life from a pain when all I look at life from overcoming cause it feel good though, come. That is the biggest rush, having all those dopamine and the nucleus octopus to give me a reward sensation. But I rather my reward not come from condition that I got to receive my blessings from another man. We condition that another man has to blow us up to make it. That when I was all in front of him saying, hey, no, no, no, y'all, you can make your own brand and get the same attention, be on the same stage as yes. Did I get the big thousands of dollars of contracts to do it? No, I didn't, but shit, God gave me the stage, just like the big rappers to be on tour to go rap in front of this area, to go speak to this. So it's like, shit, he just gave it my way. He gave it his way. You said, I heard you say to me yesterday that you like to deal with the regular people more than you'd like to be with the celebrities. Because it's just like, a lot of them are still kids, you know? And a lot of them know like dentistry is new. Like it's not new in the field of white people being predominantly in it, but it's new for black people, right? So we approach it from a different standpoint because we care, we care, but you know, someone lashing out and some like people not knowing how to deal with pain because you go through with pain. Like sometimes people like, ah, this journey again your teeth, I ain't just all peachy as those rows, new case alert scenes. Nah, man, people go through pain to fix it, but they had to go through pain to even get to the point of thinking that he was gonna fix it. You know, your tea teller, God, about yourself, man. No, you're right. Let me tell you something, he just went to the thing and said, pull it, because he couldn't afford it. Because it's not allowed to do with your health too, doesn't it? It does. Like, because I was a friend of mine. I thought you were smelling your breath. No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. A friend of mine ended up in an emergency room. He had some issues with his teeth, but they said if it could drain and go to his heart I'm gonna give him a heart attack. It can, that's all infections. And that's the pain, man. Like, and that's why you gotta always walk in the lane on integrity, because you're a doctor, I'm a doctor, y'all. I gotta be right, because people automatic, trust me. You know, so I gotta walk in the light. So, when you see people in pain, man, they let you have it. You may not be the cause of it, but hey, you're right in front of them right now. You know what I mean? And it's, like I said, that type of pain, tooth pain is new. Like, that is different. Hey, you ever had a toothache? Ah, shit, he brought you to your knees, huh? Yeah, you was bawled up like a baby. Anything touched it, blew on it. You saw the real you. Leave me alone, you don't wanna talk to nobody. Yeah. No one knows they need a dentist till they need one. I wanna talk to you about something before, cause I'm gonna let you go after this. And let you get something else. I wanna talk to you about just the charitable events that you do, the things that stick out to you the most, the things that you enjoy doing when it comes to giving back to the kids like you were doing earlier today. Man, she's just fun. Like, I just be having fun with it. So, it's one of the dynamics where it's like, man, you know, like, you can step into it, be a role model and just, you know, give up. Like, I mean, listen, a lot of my friends now are starting to come towards a light. I don't know, something happening to someone's water, right? I mean, they know that shit. Inspiration day is coming on earth, man. God is coming back. But it's neither here nor there. Abba! Have there ever been a kid that, like... Now I forgot about the whole question, my man. I'm just playing this shit. I was asking you about what really sticks out to you about when you're doing the events because you've been giving back for a long time, ever since God's been blessing you. And I just was kind of just trying to give people to see, man, just because when you get, when God gives you a success or when you become successful, the joy comes and you can help more people. When you're broke, you can't help nobody really, like, but with conversation. Maybe it carries something if you're not too weak, but when you've been blessed with finances, you have to find a place of giving. In, I feel like it's kids because everyone preserves kids as innocent, right? And that's the thing we all protect. So everyone has a weakness for them. You know, so where I choose to give it back, in the sense to kids is to always say, you know what, we must protect innocents, but we also must walk in a way to say, hey, this is what we doing. You know, I am stripping myself down and say, I'm a regular person. Y'all see me as Dr. Rose. I see myself as Jerry Rosenberg, the person that come to deliver a message. You can be whatever the fuck you wanna be, man. Listen, you get on stage and walk, talk, act the way you act. You can come in and put a dental jacket on and be a doctor with a white coat because I did it. I'm giving you endless boundaries. The lyricist put your mind in it and say, you know what, I can be whatever because I see this man has built a lot through this and he didn't do it by himself. He did it with a team. I always brag about my team because I know, like, it motivates them. Hey, yeah, it do motivate them because when people walk to them like, hey, let's take a picture and do our list. You know, like, hey, nah, we sprayin' up bunnies. So now is you do it the right way. You'll get your nonprofit, you know, and you set it up to where everyone eats and that's what we're on the journey to do now. Not as a way where I have to see the money. I don't have to physically see the money. You know, I have to know that it's been divided in a way to where everyone receives their fair share of abundance. You have to be fair. And with a leadership, sometimes you gotta make hard moves and decisions. You just have to be fair. And you gotta know that when people know that you will make a fair decision, they know that you will have a good moral compass because like, you know what, it ain't in my favor, but I understand why I did it because it's fair. You know, like, oh, what's the name? Dr. Rose, man. No, the, my extension of that same question is, can you recall a kid or an adult or anybody you came across when you were given back that had like a story where it touched you so much where it may even have brought you to tears? All of them. No, I'm serious. Give me one. Give me one. The thing is, right? And this is the hardest part when you put yourself in a lane of doing everything because I get stories from doctors that's going through stuff, you know, mentally. I get stories from kids that's going through stuff, fighting stuff mentally. I get stuff from friends because I'm my shoulder from my friends to as well, we both lean on each other, we talk and, you know, other lives. So it's like, I really am looked up to from my people to where it's like, man, it'd be so many stories and I literally take time to read them. Like I'm the guy that's like, man, I try to help. And God, like you can't, you gotta know your limits. You can't do this by yourself. And like, even in my office where I can give, I can do as much as my abilities allow me to do. So I either grow in like, if you need an implant, right? I don't place implants. I have a surgeon to come in and place them. Like, for example, right? So, but if I decide to give a free case away, I only can give away what I can do, right? Everything else, I would have to either pay my doctor to do it or I would have to ask them to, you know, donate their time to do it, you know? So it would be a true sacrifice because I am limited in some aspects of my dentures. So it's the same way, is this when you truly care about everybody that you encounter? Like to do is like, man, listen, I have some people come to me and ask me a job. Like, man, it's like, shit, I can't help you in an aspect, you know? Because sometimes you can let people into your business. Yeah, they be a problem to come. You're a problem. You become drained because you take on the problem that God damn, I thought I can take it on but I invited you. And guess what? I let you in too, shit. You came in at the first step and I said, come on, man, fuck, I got you. Then you realized like, shit, fuck. What did I get myself into? Exactly, and that's what you learn with a team. That's why it's so important for a team because you got to divide and conquer because I won't relate to you because you're a woman. You know, I can understand you. That's the best thing I can ever do for you is understand you as a woman. You're gonna need somebody to speak your language. You're gonna come to change the pad every month. You know what I'm saying? But I'm serious. So it's the same way with this is like, shit, I can remember stories where like kid asked me, like, how do you get into dental school? I said, shit, man, listen, if I really told you I got into dental school, shit, man, I was a good speaker, you know? And I made my story transform on my paper. Wow. You know, in that paper and literally, if you really look at the sun kind of interviews, I was talking like, yeah, man, I made them feel my pain. Shit. I ain't lying. Yeah, I talked about affirmative action and making them feel my pain and knowing that they had a soft spot for it. I always say that they do. I ain't going to gas, but this is why I said like, nah, my manipulation came with thinking, you know? But it wasn't a bad, it was like, nah, you're in survival. You can show your pain, but this time you're better than you. So you're not selling your soul, you're educating your life. So that's the thing. We all get out there and show our pain to the wrong people that take advantage of it and keep you in a weak state because pain, you try to exert, try to overcome pain because you're already weak. So when you take on kids, right? You try your best to leave them because you can't control kids because they're going to act off desperation sometimes, you know? And that's when you're like, man, I love these kids. So I got to put it in the way to where I have systems to where it can literally engage. Everyone say, hey, I'm not leaving you behind because I do get busy and I have to go out here and go work to provide. But I still care about you too. So when you start taking on two million stories, it's like, shit, do the people around me grow or it's like, they're like, yeah, I read them, but I can't just put a specific face on one because the ones I take an end to, the ones I really care about at the moment, and I've always cared about it and it takes a lot of energy, but I still have to put this in place of people with their credibility to say, hey, God, you can trust them, there are people with me and I have to go lead a different area right now. Man, Dr. Rose, man, this was an epic interview. I've been wanting to get this interview and thank you for coming on the show, man. You, the new location, is the other location still prevalent? What are we doing? Man, we're making dentistry fun for everyone. You see, I woke everyone up, get your ass here, because it's marketing time, mother fuck up, man. Listen, manifesto smell is more than just teeth. They just saying, hey, I want to speak life into existence, speak more into life every day, manifest it, make a plan, go act on it. Think about it first, because your thoughts of God's now, because I just manifested that you would change, you would follow the light. So follow Rose's aesthetics, because then this is next to God. Get your teeth fit, man. I want to ask you a question. I know you've been doing it so long, man. So when you started this, what did you see it growing as? When I started this, man, I think it was because of COVID. We didn't have a lot of people coming in the store and we really, we do other things, of course, but it was like, okay, the people are not going to come to us, but we need to be doing something to try to get to the people. And so we did this and as soon as I got over and sit down, we got tons of calls, man, you belong in that seat, man, you the dopest dude. We realized you do this, man. Yeah, it was like, this is my ministry. So I get to talk to people. I already been talking to people in this store for 16 years when they come through that door, helping my people, keeping our dollar circulating within our people. You wouldn't even know you was doing this, like you was in this area for 16 years. Yeah, I'm gonna be real. But God, man. I had a girlfriend that stayed right around the corner from her. Yeah, I was there when you, I promise you, I was, you see Taylor Gabriel up there? Taylor, he's in a fair play. Oh, yeah, you can't see. But he's in a fair play. He was in this store. It's another guy that does physical therapy, doctor now, he come from this store. Like I seen kids go about this store. There were kids going to high school, he's come over and shop. So I literally wish you would have came around the corner. I was right here waiting on you, baby. He was Mr. Hiddad. Mr. Hiddad. You should shop there when I was 15. Mr. Hiddad came here when he was 15. When he was 15. Ah, shit, man. This is the main line here, man. Listen, this part of my town was foreign, man. This year, I used to come out here for a peace up. What the hell? You know what I'm saying? No, I'm glad you came out here tonight. Man, it's just, it's a blessing. I get to be with my people, man. I get to talk to y'all. Like I got to meet you. I got to meet a lot of people, linear people, people that I never would have thought. I get calls from everywhere, even other countries. Like today, they're going to come on Boss Talk. They just see it and some people just fly in. Be like, I gotta be on Boss Talk. Like what? I've been doing it very long. Thank you, man. It's an amazing platform that gathers attention, the right attention. Like every time I see your posts, all right, I look at it like, ah, shit, I like the way he's speaking. Ah, shit. You know what I'm saying? Listen, if you literally look at dictation and literally look at tone and watch the way people say, ah, man, god damn it. Why you say that? You know? Like I literally be just studying that. Thank you, man. So I'm like, yeah, this is a cool thing to come on to and literally just be here. And like, I was waiting. I can't even lie. I wanted you to come. When I talked to you, when Shunny came on here, I started, he mentioned you. Man, what's Shunny say? Man, god damn it. He's gonna see what he's saying. Shit, cause he's gonna brain fucking you right now. It just made me wanna. He's gonna go in for the interview. That's what I'm talking about, man. It made me wanna meet you. I'm gonna say Shunny. No, no, no. He's gonna find it. But he showed that he was a person that he cared about and since he cared about you in that way and he's an entrepreneur, I'm an entrepreneur. We all, it's like, man, I need to meet this guy. He might be doing something right, you know? Yeah. That's what it kinda started at for me. Nah, me and Shunny can't follow. I know it's mama, man. Shit, man. Nah, for real, his mama's so sweet. That's what he said when he talked about you being like, yeah, man, his mama's so sweet. It's like one of the things like, nah, man, you can't hate a person when you can literally see him in his mom. Wow. So it's like, nah, man, hell nah, I love that nigga. Man, that's dope. Shit. What's up, Shunny? You don't like me talking, baby? Hey, yeah, man. Hey, man. So you already, he gave his website out. He gave his store location out. Well, he didn't get the store location. He didn't get a location out, but he gave how you can get to it. So, man, thank you for coming on Bust Talk. We love you, man. You know what fucked up man. We love you, brother. Man, he asked me to rap. You know what? Fuck. I want to be honest with you. No, I was thinking about it because you know the reason why I was thinking about it, because he's like, oh, yeah, I freestyle all the time. Oh, she hard on that. That's why I be like, don't do it. You should drop a beat, but I was holding back. Don't do it. You know what I mean? Now, the thing is, I love freestyling, and shit. Freestyle something about Bust Talk. Keep it up. Ah, Rose. Rose, yeah. Bust Talk, C-O-A, in the dough. Who this is, Dr. Rowe? Yeah, he got the flow. Go talk, Rose talk. Don't they see that guy out? Graduated from the dope. 106, now fucking broke. Had you hit them private faults? Yeah, them private thoughts? Yeah, yeah. He bought them demons. He know his say, because he always he see. Yeah, yeah. Talk what he do. Damn, oh, love, man. That boy had to get it in. Dr. Rowe's in the building, man. It go down just like that, man. I'll let your boys a unique hustle. Yeah, if I would take some liquor, man. Hey, man, it been another great segment of Bust Talk 101. I don't do that. That was gone.