 Right at the last minute. If you want to take it further than that, when you go to talk, you might look like you're going to kiss her, but you won't. So you'll go in, yeah, and then and then she's talking, and then you might go to the other side and go back, and you'll be close. And when you come back, you might brush cheeks. But do you see how when you go in, it looks like you're going to kiss. Now, what you get there is what can sometimes happen if I just went in for the kiss? What might a girl do? Exactly that. So if I kind of go like I'm going for the kiss and then move to the side, and she might do one of a few things, she might move back and I'm like, okay, she's not ready. She might just be staying the same place, which means she's ready, or she might kind of move into it even. I'm like, oh, here we go. And then you know it's on right away. You don't know if you don't ask the questions, but you don't need to ask the questions verbally, because that's kind of lame, isn't it? You're just going to ask it physically in a way where you get the answer really simply. Now, the final thing that I would add, I would add a lot of, when I'm talking to girls, I escalate with every part of my body. I use my feet, I use my legs, I use my hands, and I touch them in lots of different places as well. So the final thing I might do is I might make sure that when I'm talking to her, I've got some contact leg to leg, either here or inside. But I try and get that leg to leg contact. Can you tell them how does, I mean just having that, let's say we were standing side by side, if you stand, I mean, having nothing versus just our legs touching, how sexual would you call that contact? It's fairly sexual. It's pretty sexual, but all it is is a leg, right? It's not like hands, you know, somewhere, you know, that might cause problems. It's just a leg touching a leg, but it is sexual, and the reason that it's sexual is there's no way on earth that you would do that with a male friend. So it's one of those touches that is non-ambiguous. What you're looking for when you're escalating is non-ambiguous touches and non-ambiguous communication. You want a heart rate to increase, you want it to start feeling something, but the way I do it, you're not doing anything where she can be like, well, what are you doing? Or not so fast or any of that stuff, because I don't get those reactions. I don't get those, you know, slow down or no, I don't get that stuff, because they only come if, you know, I'm talking to a girl and then I go, let's kiss like that, and I kind of lunge in. I don't do that, so it doesn't happen. It never happens. If you escalate from zero to a hundred, one increment at a time, an increment every second or whatever, and you do it that smoothly, she's going to go with it. You heard earlier problem, I'm sure you heard it all weekend, but Darren mentioned it, the yes ladder. Yeah? Are you English? Are you in Sweden? Yes, yes. Okay. He's standing in the room. Yes. Do you want to kiss me? Yes. Oh, you know, that's what you've developed, you know. Use the analogy of when you put a frog in cold water and then turn the heat up, and it stays there and dies, because it's a gradual thing. But if you just throw him in, they jump right out. So what you're doing with the girl is you're actually not giving her any situation where she has to decide yes or no. It just happens, and there's nothing she can do about it. She'll go with it. So you will get girls, and you'll be able to kiss girls that would definitely say no in many other situations. And so I talked about the first thing being verbal, and I talked about the second thing being escalation. And there's another element that I use when it comes to escalation that I think is really, really powerful. And we could do something about that. Let's take a seat. So we're sitting down in the club, and I'm talking to you guys, and would you say that I'm talking to you in a sexual way? No. All right. And if we were having a conversation, I'm like, oh, yeah, you know, I'm in Sweden. I'm going to be here a few days. I'm going to Norway, actually, afterwards. That's going to be cool. How would you characterize that interaction? Yeah. So you'd put it like near a zero, right, in terms of sexual, sexual content. Let's imagine you were her friends in the club. What would you think of this interaction? Would you think that there's, it's pretty safe, and you don't need to worry about her? And, you know, she's not suddenly going to leave the club with me. Yeah. Cool. All right. So what was going on behind the... All right. Now, I told you I would demonstrate something, and there's a lot of you in the room, and you still all missed it. That means no one else in the club would see that. All right. Girls have a good girl part and a bad girl part. They enjoy sex. They like men. It's exciting to meet a guy and to have him turn you on and all of that stuff, but they still say no. It doesn't make sense, does it? Well, it does, because that's their good girl part. So they're always fighting between their good girl part and their bad girl part. If you've ever been in a situation where you know the girl wants it, but she won't give it, you know, she's there and, you know, she's, she maybe lets you kiss her, but she won't let you do anything else, even though you can tell she's turned on and she likes you. Anyone been in that situation? Good girl versus bad girl. Right there. It's going on. What you're doing in this situation is you are not putting her in a situation where she needs to say yes or no. Okay. I'm going to be a bad girl. You're talking to the good girl and you're exciting the bad girl at the same time. You're not triggering those responses. Women need to say no because men keep pushing, right? They keep pushing and then there's some point where the woman says no, stop. So she's conditioned with that response. Women are conditioned, you know, if you try and touch their boobs, they say, no, what are you doing? They're conditioned to do that because this happens, you know, many, many times and they get conditioned to say no at some point. What the man is doing there is he's doing a full-on escalation. He's pushing hard. So she has, she has to react in some way. Otherwise she'd be a bit of a slag, wouldn't she, if she just went along with it every time with every guy. So she gets conditioned to say no in a lot of situations. I'm not triggering any of those responses. I'm not triggering any of those alarms. If I were talking to him like this, she's like, oh, something's happening. He's getting excited. He's going to kiss me. Better slow him down. Men are only after one thing. Oh, stop that. You know, you're moving fast. You know, stop not in front of my friends. Million different examples of ways she might respond negatively to that if you do a full-on escalation. However, when I do this, when I do what I call multi-level communication or I'm physically escalating and verbally, I'm just being plain, verbally I'm in control. Look at me. It's not like I'm, you know, seem really excited or I'm like, so I seem like I'm under control. We're having a normal conversation, but she's enjoying it. So she doesn't feel like she needs to say anything. So she can quietly enjoy it. She knows that her friends aren't going to think she's bad, but we've got this secret thing going on, and that's really exciting, and it's turning her on, and it's going to work. And I remember we put a video on YouTube, and it's one where I interviewed Callum Best. He's like a, he's the son of George Best, the famous footballer. And in London, he kind of goes out to all the clubs and he gets free drinks, and he's kind of a B-list celebrity in London. And I remember one time when we were in a car, he was in the front seat with the driver, and I was in the back seat with this girl. And he was having a conversation with us. We were all having a conversation, and I was talking very normally, but touching up her leg like that. And then I moved. I was touching up different. And I was like, oh, really, that's interesting Callum. Yeah, blah, blah, blah. And then he was talking. So what do you think about that? And all the time, I'm touching her up. And if you watch that interview, he says, one minute you were there with the girl, and one minute you'd gone, and you'd taken her back to the house. And that was a girl that he was interested in. But he didn't see it. He didn't know what was going on because it was a secret communication between me and the girl. Now imagine if we'd just been sitting there in front of all you guys, and I'd carried on doing that. Think of what a turn on that is. That we're here in a packed room, but we've got this little sexual thing going on. But we're like, oh, really? So where are you from in England? Oh, interesting. And you guys are like, well, this game's shit. What's going on? But there's that secret thing going on. So I mean, all I was doing, if you wouldn't turn around, all I was doing is I was just like stroking here and, you know, stroke up by the neck. You could even pull the hair and stuff. But it's, again, it's a touch that is, do that later. Sorry, it's a touch that is not ambiguous, right? You would not touch a friend like that. But on the other hand, it's not something that she's like, whoa, what are you doing? You touched my back. No, it's okay. You're allowed to touch a girl's back. You can put your arm around the girl as soon as you meet her, can't you? If you do it in the right way, can't walk up to a girl and say, hey, how are you doing? And put your arm around her. Or you can, but not always. But you can walk up to a girl and say, oh, hey, who are you here with these girls? I'm with those guys over there. That guy's cool. I actually have to introduce you later. You've put your arm around her straight away. So it's not a touch that is going to trigger any of those bad responses. Thank you, I think. Yeah. Thank you very much. So that was the next thing I learned. When it comes to escalation, escalate from the get go right away. You start on zero. Don't stay there. Don't try and make one big leap to 100. Start on zero and move up smoothly in a way that she will never reject you and that you get all of the answers to the questions of whether she wants to kiss you, without actually going for it or without asking. We were with some girls last night, Durham and I, and I talked to them and I was like, that one's totally up for it. This one's really shy. She'd be a lot of hard work, but she'd probably be a good girlfriend. This one, she's kind of in the middle. And lo and behold, one of the girls got sick and had to go home and the one that was really up for it, the two that were most up for it, they stayed. So within those first few minutes, I made that decision and these girls left their friend, they let their friends go and they stayed in the club with us because they wanted to be with us. And when the girl was kind of dancing with Durham and she was all, you know, totally up for it, but within five minutes, it was possible to classify. And that's only because you put on a little bit of pressure, create some sexual tension and you see what happens. So two huge things I learned guys. And honestly, it's responsible for tons and tons of, you know, great times out. And like I said, no regrets because you're always going to be doing it. You're always going to be opening. You're always going to be escalating. You're never going to have any situations where you blow it. And it just takes a little bit of practice. All the other benefits are that you never, you never need a wingman. You never need to occupy a group. You don't need to because you're instantly isolating because they think you know her. You don't have to worry about getting rejected because of what her friends might think. You don't have to worry about her getting dragged away. And that's just amazing. So that's kind of the end of that section that I wanted to teach. And I want to teach something else that's totally different. So if you've got any questions on all of the stuff that I covered, now would be the time. So there's no questions. So we'll carry on. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. Good start. One question. How do you handle a two-set then? Because if you're isolating, you leave one behind. Two-set is slightly different. Oh, okay. It's the only, yeah, sorry I just said that. Two-set is slightly different because obviously the other girl can't do too much. Yeah, she's left behind. Yeah. The idea with a two-set is that in a lot of cases, that girl will give you some time together, but you need to find out what the logistical situation is. I mean, if they live together and this one needs to take her home or something like that, then it's just worth getting a number. But in most cases, when it's a two-set, I will try and keep both of them happy. Are you creating a sexual secret with both of them? No, I mean, in a situation, what I would do... Oh, that's a good thing, right? There's the goal that I'm interested in and there's the other one. In the first 30 seconds, I want to make this other one kind of approve of me talking to that one and just get her approval so she's not going to ruin it or cause any trouble. Then I will start to interact with this one and what I'm looking for is her response. So again, I'm going to escalate slowly and I want to see what she does. Now, you took into a go in a two-set, she could respond in a few different ways. She could give you a full attention and totally ignore her friend, in which case, fine. Or she could be aware that she's ignoring her friends, that her friend's getting bored, whatever it is, and she might be looking at the friend. So that's kind of what I'm looking for. In the second situation where she's aware of her friend and she keeps kind of looking at her number's best, or you want to take both of them and talk to both of them, take them both somewhere else or whatever, but in the first situation, you can probably escalate with that one and the friend will just find another man or whatever. I have a question too. Richard, you were saying like you're seeing in the club that the girl's ready for it or she's a little bit shy because I find it very difficult to give the right interpretation of the nonverbal signals of the female, because maybe she looks weird, but then she thinks, well, I'm a nice guy. Can you tell us something about how do you know if the girl's ready for it or not? Because there's a couple things. So the first is good question. How do you really interpret a girl's signals? First thing is that if you just look at her, if you've only got eye contact, and she kind of looks at you and then does that, so that's your eye contact. What does that tell you? Not very much at all. That's why you force the IOI. So if I see the girl and I do something like that, you're going to very easily be able to see how interested she is based on her response. It will be something like that if it's negative or be something like smiling and giving a positive response if it's good and if it's on. So by doing a stronger action, you don't need to be so good at reading women's signals. As you get better at it, your action can become less and less strong. So that makes sense. So now I would just use a facial expression. And just from that, I'd be able to tell, but in the beginning, I was doing something quite big. I see the gun doing a point or doing some action that is quite strong. So start off with the strong actions and then take it down over time. The second thing is that I will try and escalate from the first moment. So if I've forced an IOI with you and you've responded, I will walk up and from the moment that I start walking, I will be trying to escalate. I mean, I'll look at you and I'll try and look at you in a sexual way. If you go with it and you're comfortable with it, you might get kissed as soon as I get there. If you're not totally comfortable with it, I'm like, okay, I need to take a while longer and I'll stop. I'll tone it down and then build it up as I'm interacting with her. So you really get the answer when you escalate and when you force a strong reaction with your opener. And huge mistake. This is another thing. I only told you to write down one thing so far. I would write down this. You do not need any kind of signal from her, apart from the absence of a negative one. All you're looking for is a red light. If there's a red light, you stop where you're at on the level of escalation you're at. A red light meaning she moves back or, you know, she starts breaking eye contact and looking for her friends or something like that. That's your red light. But the funny thing is girls give different IOIs. You can be talking to a girl and she touches her hair and you're like, did she just want to touch her hair or is that an IOI? And you're second guessing yourself. Some girls give different signals. They're ambiguous. It's always tough. Some girls just like attention. So they like to do all this stuff but they don't really mean it. So what you're really looking for is just the red light there or not because I've talked to girls that just stand there like that and they don't give anything away and you're like, well, you know, where's my signals? I've done all this amazing stuff. You haven't given me any IOIs. What's going on? But if I'm escalating and she's standing there, what does it mean? She's fine. She's holding eye contact. She's engaged. Yes, she doesn't need to touch her hair. You don't need any of that. So you don't need to be good at reading signals apart from the negative ones which are really easy. Lean back, raise the energy level. It's the where's my friends gone. I need to go to the toilet, whatever. We all know the negative ones. They're really simple. And guys always ask, what are the IOIs? And we come up with these long lists. If they touch that, if they point their feet towards you, if they ask your name, if they ask you if you're saying, yeah, of course, these are IOIs but you do not need them. And if you look for them and you only escalate when you get them, you're probably only getting 50% of the girls you could.