 there's one thing that's incredibly hard to fake and that is the precise timing of eye contact and you'll see him mostly avoidant of eye contact here. This I don't think is demonstrably deceptive. He's displaying these genuine nonverbal behaviors that we typically associate with true feelings of shame. These include him just being hunched over is kind of avoidant gaze toward the table in front of him. A lack of large expressive hand movements and most telling of all is his stillness. There's just stillness there and it's not rigidity. There's smoothness in the stillness. It's not a matter of self-regulation. Then the moment this point comes up there's a powerful and direct shift into eye contact and confident behavior. So different. There's just about no way I've ever seen a deceptive person be able to pull that off and this is overall honest behavior here which doesn't mean he's telling the truth. It means he's exhibiting what we might expect to see in an honest person. Might see something different here coming up.