 Welcome to Dear to Dream. This is Debbie Dashinger, and I have some guests who are back today for another interview because today's show features Shakina Ma and Sananda G known as Twin Ray to talk about our 5D ascension and the path towards enlightenment. I'm Debbie Dashinger, and the show has been nominated for two People's Choice Podcast Awards, a Webby Award currently listed in Welp Magazine as one of the top 20 best podcasts to listen to this year. It is a top self-improvement podcast in Apple Podcasts and recently won the Coalition of Visionary Resources Award for Best Radio and Podcast Show. This show is sponsored by Dr. Dane Heer and Access Consciousness. They do beautiful energy work out into the world. And if you'd like to become a facilitator or take one of their classes, go to drdaneheer.com or accessconsciousness.com. I'm Debbie Dashinger, I'm a visibility media expert. I am a book writing coach and I show you how to finally complete that book and make it a page-turner. I also have a company that takes your book to a guaranteed international bestselling status and I do all the work for the author. And finally, I show you how to be interviewed on radio and podcasts and get massive results. If it is your time as a spiritual messenger and of course it is, that is why we came back. If it is your time to get your message, your being out there, then I've got a free gift for you. It's templates, it's videos that show you how to do these things. Go to debbiedashinger.com slash gift. It's D-E-B-B-I-D-A-C-H-I-N-G-E-R.com Gift. My guests today, back once again, Shaquina Mon, Sananda G, who are called Twin Ray, unified in a divine love marriage. They share compassionate hearts, a clear vision and deep knowledge of the unchanging truth. Twin Ray represents the unifying creation of all existence. Twin Ray's teachings draw on 5,000 unbroken years of deep ancient roots while remaining urgently relevant today from their golden age sanctuary among the mountains of Southern Oregon. Twin Ray share practices and teachings to transcend the suffering of worldly limitations so you awaken and live your divine truth. Hmm. The reunion Shaquina Ma and Sananda G had individually established their own global followings and extrasensory spiritual gifts. Then they reunited in this lifetime at the Great Pyramid in Egypt. As they met, they remembered they were already married and had walked hand in hand in service before. Within days of the reunion, they recited ancient marriage vows in the king's chamber of the Great Pyramid and commenced their shared journey. Shaquina Ma comes from a long family bloodline of clairvoyance, oracles, and the spiritually gifted. Shaquina Ma comes from a long family bloodline of gifted folks. And Sananda G was born spiritually awake and at the age of 10, he had a mystical encounter that prompted a four year initiation to master energy healing, clairvoyance and parapsychology. To learn more, go to twinray.com and they will both be speaking and also opening the Los Angeles Conscious Life Expo. Coming up, you must attend. If you haven't, you must, you must. It's going to be February 10th through the 13th. I never miss it once, truthfully, when I was speaking on stage, but otherwise I think in over a decade and more, I've never missed it. I have in the show notes a way for you to get tickets. There is a link. So please go there and register for the LA Conscious Life Expo. Enjoy them today, and then you can get to see them live very soon. And I welcome to the show, Shaquena Ma and Sananda G. It is so great to have you back on the program. Thank you. Thank you, beloved Debbie. Yes. It's been a minute and yet it's been nothing. It's been a minute since yet no time has passed. And yet you've created so much from when we last spoke and before we even started this, you were telling me about Haven Ashland, and you can go to havenashland.com, your new store, your brilliant store, this gorgeous place where you are and that is not a backdrop they have, that is real where they live, but there is also a place where they invite people to come work with them and you have, do you have homes there that people can buy and live in? We have about 140 acres thus far. The vision is to expand into a few thousand acres and start developing home sites to have sustainable living with biological architecture that's in residence with the earth and then help whoever lives or stays in these homes to actually heal. So they're self-retribinating chambers, essentially. So we are designing, we've designed them. We have the plans already. We have the master plans right now. Of course you do. You guys are amazing. You get more accomplished like in a year than most humans in a lifetime. It's very impressive. So that is a strong mission, all of this. I mean, you know why you're here and you are relentless to get this done. Is that what drives you? Is humanity what drives you? Is it the soul calling that drives you? What drives us? That's an interesting question. The cliche would be love and it would be the most honest truth. But really, it's not even a drive. It's just our breath, it's just what we know and it's why we're here. This is the most amazing time on the planet right now. We're going through this incredible ascension cycle and humanity is awakening and we're here to support this. Our vision is really to manifest and build, like physically build the golden age for the ones that feel within their hearts, the calling to return to that time of living in peace and living in purity and living in great connection to not only the cosmic cycles and the earthly cycles but to fully liberate one's own self. And this is a world that has forgotten how to live. Truly. What do you mean by that? Forgotten how to live in the ways that sanctify this body, this temple, forgotten how to live in the ways that recognize the sacred cycles and the sacred universe and thus making your life sacred. That's the only way to truly live in honor of the life you've been given. So that could look like living a life of ceremony, for example, like when you really acknowledge the miracle, the profound miracle that everyone has been given to be incarnated right here, right now. And when you acknowledge that, you don't take anything for granted. You honor the physical body, you honor all life. You acknowledge all things as an interconnected whole and many have forgotten that. Many have forgotten the sacredness of life. I've forgotten the very miracle to breathe, to be here. Many are looking for, you know, attracting wealth and abundance and success and all this, but they forget the very success of just breathing, you know, just to have your heart beating. Like that's what you should be grateful for. So that's what we mean by forgot how to live, forgot the significance, the real purpose and meaning. And there's many that haven't forgot. There's many that are joining us now. And there's many on the awakening path and the ascension path that are remembering and igniting the very flame of their divinity. And that's why we're here to support all of that. Yes, and you introduced us so beautifully. Thank you for that, Debbie. One of the main things that was probably the most pertinent is that this body, this vessel went through a death, a full, complete death for six days and six nights. And that original soul transitioned and I came in and thus there is no, I heard the calling of the children and that's why I'm here. So there is no drive other than this is as it must be. She got the shortcut. She got to drop into a body instead of have to grow the body. That is true. That's incredible. And may I ask you when you say that, do you mean walk in or do you mean, I do understand what you mean, but I guess the question is what is the being? What is the energy or the collective that chose to come in and take over the body? I'm not dancing that. I would love my ass in dance. You know, if we, this could be a beautiful teachings of sort of the science of the subtle bodies, your bio energetic field, the lower bodies and the higher bodies, you have these sheets in Eastern culture, it's called the coaches, but they like sheets of information. And the soul has a matrix of the causal body or the Akashic body holds all the records, essentially. So we can look at the soul as like a memory, a hard drive of all the memory of every incarnation of her experience you've ever had. And that is hosting the physical body. So the physical body is hosted by that soul's intelligence. And then ultimately the journey of the soul is returned back to spirits. And spirit is sort of the light of the soul. All the light of the soul, the very life of the soul is borrowed from spirit. Spirit in this case is pure consciousness, the divine. And so when one incarnates, they obviously grow, they aspects of the soul come in. So the first breath that you take, the astrological alignment with all the planets, the exact angulation of those planets, these celestial bodies, these are like broadcast signals of memories of different lifetimes when you've walked the plane and those planets have overlooked your life, so to speak. So they're held within the Akashic and the astral body of your energy field. So when a soul leaves, all that data leaves with them. And so in Shakina Ma's case, the soul that's inhabited and hosted the body. From birth? From birth left. And so the memories and the nuances, the way that she walked, the way that she talked, she wore those subtle aspects that sort of make the personality, the unique expression of the soul being the personality, that left and a new field of information, a field of energy, a presence, and known as Shakina or Shakina, depending upon what dialect is expressing that sacred word, it had incarnated in. And so this is a big conversation and I had the pleasure to speak to her earth mother, which is quite interesting because when she came through, she's one of the first things that she said to her earth mother is now I'm your mother, spiritually speaking of course. And that was a bit of a trip for her earth mother to sort of grok and understand what she's actually implying. But ultimately, when I spoke with Shakina Mars earth mother, she shared her experience and she's open, she's spiritually open, but she's not quite on the path, on the path, like fully dedicated on the path, but she sort of opened to new concepts and open-hearted and minded. And her experience was that she had rosary in hand and was in the corner of the actual hospital and her daughter that was on life support and all of her organs had failed and she had a very rare case of meningitis and that spread out through the body. And so she was told that she's got 20 minutes to live and then they put her on life support and she was gone. And so she's praying day in, day out and seeing it from the mother's perspective, it really sort of touches your heart like this is a daughter that you've brought up into the world, you've spent, you've loved your best friends, you do anything for her and how hopeless could a mother really feel being in the corner and watching the daughter and the ICU unit, like it's pretty, pretty profound. And then she had this moments after six days and six nights, it was very early in the AM, she recalled and shared with me that she saw this being, this being of light that was wearing this very long flowing gown of white light and just descended into the room. He had this very stern look, like very focused eyes and very direct and he just came down and looked over the body and he put his hand out and just sent this beam of light straight from his hand down straight into the body that laid on the bed. And she was, lack of a better term, dumbfounded. Like she just, what is this? She couldn't explain it. She had no reference points of how to assimilate that experience. And so she was just deeply contemplating was she dreaming this? Did she make this up? Did she just going through the whole thought process of what just actually happened? And moments later, the body started being revived and Shakina Ma entered the physical body and came through so that that beam of light that came from a masculine form actually was calling in a feminine form to come through. And after that process, a few moments later the body started regaining awareness and started actually instantly healing. And she was known as the miracle one, the miracle one because there was no, the hospital and the doctors and the nurses were like, she's not gonna make it and make sure everything's in order and she was resurrected. And instantly healed her whole, all of her organs instantly healed her whole body instantly healed like nothing actually happens. It was profound. They had never experienced something like that ever in their entire medical career. And so from that experience, what happened afterwards, and this was on 10, 10, 10 as well at age, you know, that's at age 33. So it's like the master number at this powerful portal of time, which was a very significant alignment cosmically as well. And so after that occurred, what her earth mother shared with me was that it was so profound to have that a miracle happen and have a second chance, have a child back. But she noticed that she was completely different the way that she talked, the way that she animated, the way that she walked, the way that she expressed herself and but she didn't care. She got her miracle, that was enough. She didn't care what had really happened. Later on, she's come to sort of understand more intimately and as much as she can, but it was very profound for her to have that experience and it changed her entire belief of God. It changed her entire belief of spirituality and it changed everything. There was no going back from what she experienced and what she then had encountered. And so that's, I hope I did justice to the story and in a brief manner, but that's what happens for Shakina Ma also. Amazing. Thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing that. We didn't go into that during our first interview at all. It was made reference, but understanding that is profound and reading your bio is already goosebumps. It's like the most beautiful movie. And then hearing this story is like just a whole another piece of, oh, it feels like hope. It feels like the things, people in our tribe believe in and know to be true, but to hear it and experience it with somebody, you're right here in front of me, in front of us to know that this occurred for you. And Shakina Ma, if I can ask you, and then we're gonna get on to another subject, I'm so fascinated by this. When you were, I don't even know what the word is, but this being with his hand was able to impel your being through light into the body that you now occupy. Did you have awareness of this is strange? This isn't my body, was it strange at all or was it an immediate marriage? No, no, not at all. How do I explain that I was over-lighting and overseeing the process from her birth and before her one pair this entire experience? So no, one must be prepared for a very, very, very long time in order to come in in this particular way and have this type of awareness consciousness and this role in the world. Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Wow, thank you. You both have called this the beginning of the year, the mystic, and that it's a radiant start of the year. Can you explain what do you mean by year of the mystic? Why is it radiant? Why is it radiant? Well, it's always radiant, you know? Consciousness is radiance, it's always radiant. However, this specific numeric of this year being seven, if we look at the Tarot, we can see that the seven represents the chariots. So it's also, the chariot is the ascension vehicle. And the chariots is also the vehicle of the mystical experience. And so the inner mystic, seven is the mysteries. So seven is the higher mysteries. Anything that is esoteric or hidden. Yeah, and esoteric doesn't always allude to more of the spiritual or new age perception. Like esoteric also means the hidden blueprint. So if we look at a tree, for example, what we don't see is the rings and the bands within the trunk that show the age of the tree. That would be the sort of esoteric aspect of the trunk. And then we don't see the roots that grow down into the earth and how those roots connected to every other tree and how those trees are connected into a synarchy or connection. So that's sort of the esoteric blueprint behind the model. So that's what we mean by the hidden. This is what is needing to come up. And so a lot of those ancient secrets, the ancient sacred teachings, the ancient sciences, the ancient ways, there'll be more of this coming up to the surface in this year specifically. It's very auspicious this year. And the mystic is also about the mystery, the great mystery. You know, what is the mystery of life? Like who am I really? What is all of this, this universe? What is it really? Who is God's, for example? Like the learning of who one truly is, learning that love is at the seat of all experience. It is the very awareness of all consciousness. That's the great mystery to be realized. And you can't just learn this intellectually. You have to have a direct experience. And... This is also the year that the great mythos is going to be celebrated. This is also the year that the great mythos is going to come to light in a different way. And more and more people are going to start recognizing that they are indeed part of this grand story and the grand tapestry and want to get involved and know how they can serve a life greater than the small self. Indeed. Million dollar question, huge. And I think many people feel that calling. We have, you have without a doubt. You have risen to that calling. And with Ascension, can you talk about some of the symptoms that people may experience physically, emotionally, ethically, any of the symptoms that are taking place that people may not be connecting that this is actually a part of Ascension? Let's talk about Ascension for just one moment. There's this word that's out there. It's called the Ascension. What does that really mean? How does one be able to grasp what this is representing and what this is referring to? So let's just speak about it in terms of frequency. Right. As, and we're going to get, I'm sure, more into the cycles of time and why the frequency is rising as it is. But just to simplify it, let's say that the frequency is rising on the planet. The Ascension is part of rising that frequency within you. That means that you are taking light and bringing it through you. And if there are places inside of you that are dense that have yet to be uncovered or discovered that have not yet been loved into awakening, those energies are going to feel stagnant. So when a high frequency or a high pitch to make it even more simple comes through into something that has density, you're going to feel pain or you're going to hear ringing in your ears or you're going to experience what would be called Ascension symptoms. But really all that it means is that your lower centres must now rise to meet where the earth is headed. And that's what's happening right now. Just to simplify that. Yeah. And if we look at it solely biological, we could say, yes, there's the common symptoms. What's this ringing in my ear sort of thing. But that also connects into your kidneys. So for example, the kidneys aren't training or if the kidneys and adrenals aren't actually working in synergy together, when high frequency comes in the battery, that is like the life force that the kidneys hold and they actually connect into the battery of the actual intestinal tract and the intestinal system. If the frequency is lifting, then you can actually feel those symptoms of detox like rapid healing crisis that can come up or if you're living a life where you're really holding onto certain securities like you need this to be a certain way. And it's old guard. It's from the old frequency. It's an old model. Then you can probably bet that that's going to crumble. And so that's also an essential symptom when your entire life is just crumbling around you and you're like, what is going on? I have no idea. I don't know how I'm going to make this work anymore. You have to think completely outside the box that you've been caged in your entire life. So these ascension symptoms are also like marker points just to look inside yourself. Where are you sourcing your power? Is it from external securities? Is it from external validation? Is it from external relationships? Or is it from something more internal, more interconnected within you? And so a lot of the symptoms are not only physical. They're also emotional, mental, causal, spiritual. Absolutely. So you can have like snapbacks where you just remember past lives. You just all of a sudden you're living a trauma and there's some type of trauma that's coming up. You may not consciously and logically know but this is your body does or your codex within your DNA that's folded of the records of time inside you is just unlocking. And then you're going through this entire episode of something that happened in another incarnation. And that can also be a positive thing. You can actually start attaining the memories and the gifts of your spiritual pathways that your lifestreams that you've lived in other lifetimes as well. So ascension symptoms could also be, wow, I'm finally here. Like I'm getting my body, my template up leveled and activated and ready to be of service. So there can be a deep calling for you to, to basically go to different locations around the planet, for example, or join certain communities or learn certain wisdom teachings. So there's many different things that can be associated with a symptom. But first one must purify. One must really go through the purification process in order to be able to hold and withstand the frequency fields and the plastic waves that are going to be coming into the planet stronger and stronger and have already been coming in, certainly since 2017. How long do you anticipate this will continue to occur? Well, there's going to be a big shift in 2024. Yeah, 2017 was sort of the onset. And we're only really experiencing the bow shock waves. And what we mean by this to give a little bit of, of context of what we're speaking about is that we're in cycles. You can witness the cycles of the seasons. We have biological cycles that happen in 24 hours within our body. And we're also in a cosmic cycle. We're in a 12,000 year cycle where we're entering into the Aquarian age, which hasn't happened for 26,000 years. So we're in another 26,000 years. And the position of our, our galaxy is within a, over a 200 million year cycle as well. So we're in these massive cycles of time. And that's what sort of cosmos is within cycles within cycles. What is, what is, what is the universe? It's a big giant cosmic clock. That's what it is. That's what all the stars are. That's it's a big massive cosmic clock. And we are at the precipice of an ascension cycle where we are closer to the, to a, a cosmic sheath. And a sheath is basically like this, these waves of coherently charged and structured, a plasmic envelopes. And as our solar system is traveling through these envelopes, we are then lit up. So we are receiving this massive cosmic radiation. And that goes through our crystalline core of our earth. And then it converts into gamma wave particles. And then it also creates low standing sound waves or say that again slowly low standing sound waves. They are sound waves and they're low standing to the earth grids. So this is what we call historically lay lines or song lines holds the songs of the ancestors, the stars holds the songs of the universe holds the songs of the earth. So we have a new grid as of 2017. We've entered into this, this galactic sheet of this cosmic radiation. And that switched it on, but we're only receiving what we've called the bow shock waves. And what the imagery behind that, that word is, is that when there's a cruise liner, it's, it's dry, it's, it's, it's floating or, or cruising through the waters. There's waves in front of the cruise liner. It's the momentum of that gravitational force. We're receiving those. We're receiving that. So the massive cruise liner hasn't even docked in yet. But when it docks in is at the end of 2024. That's when there's a massive shift. What that's going to do. And the reason why this is so significant and we've been talking about this for like ever since 2017. In fact, and we've been walking the grids for decades, like literally being called to go to many, many places in the world over 60 different countries that travel to sacred locations to repair the grids. A lot of the work that we've been doing is to prepare for this time now, because if you can understand the energetic matrix, the energetic container, the, the frequency field, that is the, that is the energetic construct that creates the form. So all form or physical solidity of form is just frequency. So it's held within a frequency field. And so that frequency field, just as we have an aura, so does the earth. That is going through a transfiguration. And so is our sun and so was our solar system. Every different planet within our solar system is going through this. So as our galaxy, it's all going through this. And this happens at a powerful time of when a species is ascending into another octave of existence, another density. It becomes another root race, so to speak. Yeah. So this is, this is a massive shift of guards. And so what the cosmic energy does, as it converts into gamma wave particles and that cosmic radiation starts switching on the DNA. So the, and creating mutations to the DNA. Yeah. So it can correct like free radicals, for example, like when there's free radicals and rogue cells within the body, it can actually self correct and self heal that. It also can switch on epigenome sequences. So the epigenomes, they can actually switch on genetic information. They can actually unlock certain records within a DNA construct as well. So we're going through an evolutionary cycle. The last time this happened was 12,000 years ago. And every single 12,000 years we have a chance. Last time it happened as a great flood and Atlanta sunk. They didn't do, they didn't make the right decision. The head wasn't balanced with the heart. And we know what happens with that when that occurs. And so we're coming to another chance now. And I think it's really important to understand this time, because many people are aware of this sacred science, these great prophecies that many different cultures have been speaking about and, and, and leaving records about. This is the time that you all showed up for this is a time where you said yes. And so this is the most powerful time. And this is the year. This is the year to understand the great mysteries of heaven and the heaven within that is precisely. This is the year that I was referring to, and that is why this is the year of the mist. Yes. The earth needs a new story. And this is the story of our time. And we're here to bring it. That's incredible. I've heard things like trouble sleeping, hair loss, issues. Heart. I've heard that a lot of people were going to the hospital and the doctors were, there is nothing wrong with you. You know, I'm not a doctor. But I'm not a doctor. I'm not a doctor. I'm a doctor. They're in the other template. Though there might be. And so really it depends on because what happens is. Again, as these bales shop waves have been coming through. Remember once field is, is grander than the physical form than the physical. It is reverberating and making the connections with one But there's a lot of detox symptoms that come up. Well, there is, of course, because before anything can happen to your physical body, it has to first permeate through the levels and the layers. And your physical body is the measure of what is transpiring in seen and unseen ways. All I can say is I am so excited hearing you talk about DNA repair, rogue cells, epigenomes being turned on, past lives, remembrance, activation of gifts. I'm just sitting here like I will have some of that, please. I will have some of that, please. Just that is so exciting, so beautiful that over these next two years we'll be completing something that's been going on for a while. And then I imagine we'll step into yet another phase after 2024. Respectfully, we won't be completing any of that. We really are going to be beginning it. That's interesting. It reminds me, I haven't shared this with my audience, but I, a month ago, had hip replacement surgery, total hip replacement, and people would write to me, not everybody, many people get it, but just a few people would say, are you fully healed? Are you out of pain? And although I understand that's probably possible to create, the truth is that surgery was just the beginning. Then the journey begins for me to come back to complete whole health with this new bionic piece that I now have inside of me. And so one step at a time, one day at a time, it's better and I'm stronger and I can do more and it's a journey. It's a journey. So I understand. So 2024, just the beginning, okay. In some ways, thank you for sharing that and that's a beautiful metaphor. And in some ways, 2024 is going to be the potential. It holds in its seed a great potential for humanity. This is also a time when there is a, most a new, for the only way I can explain it in a way that's gonna make sense as much as possible is let's say there is a new piece of the world soul that's coming in. This is going to then allow people right now who are not yet awakening, who are not even yet interested in awakening, who are people's spouses, husbands, wives, family members, who are still very much sleeping in some ways. That is going to allow them, if their soul has attained to a certain level, that's going to allow that frequency match to start to enter into their field, allowing them to start to awaken and to open up more and more. This is the only way to do it. It must come from the heart. Can you speak to the people who are very gifted and spiritually awakened? I know a few of them, but they look at these signs, very 3D in a way to say, well, this is what's happening with the financial industry. This is what's happening with the increase in prices. This is what's happening with world politics. So they're very focused on that, and they see this time as a demise. Can you speak about that and whatever that energy is? I believe you addressed some of it when you were saying, the hidden is going to come up. I feel that's what's happening, is that the underbelly is being shown to be healed. But I'd love to hear your point of view. Yeah, and of course at last, you have to resolve and reveal what's being left in the shadows in order for that to happen. So one may not experience that reality if they're watching for news and the symptoms of news or the signs of news of what is happening on the global stage. It will look like utter chaos, of course. Of course, when you're creating a whole new field, like there's birthing pains, there's a whole new construct that's being designed in order to rebirth this plane, this world, this species. It is clear to state that nothing as it has been is working. It is clear too. Anyone can see that the way the world has been run is not in an equilateral way. It is not about honoring the holistic nature of anyone being or beingness and all livingness. It must transform. There are many ways to transform and some is to destroy and others is to do it gently. But when things do not move, when they are lightly pushed and gently pushed, one must, there must be a force that comes and moves that. And this force is coming from outside of our solar system right now. Cool, that was my next question. At the, you know, just the theme level, let's just, you know, keeping it a theme of what we're moving into. Like 2020 was the very mark of time where Saturn and Jupiter made the Bethless Hymn star that mark of time on the solstice. The Harkins. That literally in the sign of Aquarius, two social planets that represent society at large, these planets are representative of archetypes and archetypes that we live through. And as the biggest signpost was that we are in the Aquarian Age at that point. And it happens as a pre-wave in the seventies. You know, in the seventies as a pre-wave of this energy coming in, you know, 50 years ago. But, and some are tuned to that and some have been preparing through that energy. But now it's like we're in, we're in a new age. And in the Aquarian Age, there's a few things that change. It's all about humanitarianism. Like if it's not supporting humanity, everything must fall if it's not supporting humanity. So that's one aspect of it. There's also a lot of technological advancement that can happen in the Aquarian Age. And ultimately there's a whole new open source architecture. We've come out of a plasmic cloud that was the actual field of our earth, the electromagnetic field of our earth has weakened and we were in a repulsion zone that was preventing this cosmic radiation coming into our planet. So we're now in a new area within the universe. Because if you think about this earth, it's a massive earthship. It's literally traveling through space time. And it's a mother ship. It's a, it is, it is the mother ship. It's a jewel within the cosmos. So we are in a whole new area and it's opening up this open source architecture within the grids of this earth. We're seeing that in the financial system. Open source finance is called what? Blockchain, for example. And blockchain is just the beginning of where it's going to go to. But then you can see governmental industries trying to still hold control and using those systems for their own centralized agenda. So when we look at it from political level or the financial model or the healthcare model, it's all been centralized. So it's all been centralized around a very tightly held container of elite power, elitism. What's happening right now is that circuitry is opening up and the energy's being distributed out through the grids. It's being distributed out through the grids for people to receive that. In order for people to acknowledge the power inside them, they have to get a little bit uncomfortable. Oh, this is not right. This shouldn't happen. Why is this going on? So the people can not get angry, but see what that means as a representation and a reflection of the war that's been happening inside one's own ego construct. But that is not an enlightened perspective. It is not an enlightened perspective to look at what is wrong. One must rise and see not just the focus expression of some dot somewhere within the cosmos, but recognize that the whole dance that is taking place and that the grand orchestration. This is a time for absolute, absolute faith and knowing. Absolute faith and knowing that you've come here for nothing but a celebration and that you come here to bring the light in those places where the light has not been found for thousands upon thousands of years. This is the way it must be. I just wanna breathe for a moment. That's very powerful. That's very powerful. I feel like that was an offering to people, to an invitation, to perceive differently and to really awaken to what's happening. Are we getting help? I already know this answer, but what kind of help are we getting from beings from other planets, benevolent beings from other galaxies, dimensions, timelines, et cetera? How are they showing up for us right now? There's over 400,000 different humanoid species in our galaxy alone and they're all supporting this great ascension cycle. It's like Earth has to catch up, basically is what's being shared consistently is helping make new choices, helping through the dimensional blends, helping the assistance for people to attune to a more of a unified field of intelligence awareness. So there's always been help, but more than ever, there is help right now, absolutely. You just have to call it in. Let us say that the help that is coming in, this help is deeply connected to what occurs on this planet because what happens here can affect and does affect what happens in other systems, let us say. Absolutely. And so not only is there a great benevolence that is here working, helping, assisting, but just like a match of frequency must be there in order to have an appropriate communication with a human being, it is such that that match of frequency and some aspect part of your being and beingness must also be able to make that match in order for there to be a coherent communication and for them to be able to really step in for us to be able to step in appropriately because this is a free will zone. And what does that mean? The Earth is one of the only schools in the universe that is a free will zone. That means that the children create here unencumbered by anything or any one, if we could say one. Not really because there is the law of karma that does create the sort of counter activity of that. But that is already in, that's already set in in the existence of anyone here. It isn't something or someone that is interacting or trying to stop or prevent something from happening. One must ask for intervention. One must ask and pray, not from the space of what can I get from something, but what can I do? How can I raise to the point where I can truly, truly be a pillar of light for this world? Then the help will come in in ways that are magnificent. Those ways will pour open one's heart in unimaginable experiences. But the caveat here is that does someone really have free will? Because if your awareness is based on the constructs of your conditioned mind and the beliefs of different ancestral conditioning or parental conditioning or societal conditioning, religious conditioning, and you're perceiving your life through a filter of your own minds, that is in division, you have a divided mind, then who's making the choices when the mind is creating thoughts from corrupted beliefs? So your choice, if it's coming from the mental state, it's going to be based on your past conditioning of what you have learned. But inherently free will comes from the heart. When you choose love, there's no opposite to love. Some say there's love and fear, but there's not really an opposite to love. Fear is ignoring love, is ignoring that love is always here. So when you make choices from a space of love, it's unity, it's unifying, it's unity consciousness, it's connecting your heart to the entire grid to all sentient life, and you start seeing the interconnection together with all things. And compassionate mercy. And that's the great lesson here is the polarity integration. So the idea of giving humanoids free will so they can just see what happens, it's more like there's a lot of programming that's happened and there's a lot of information that has been embedded into the grids and the lands and the memory fields. And a lot of people are playing out the stories of their ancestors or their stories of the lands or the stories of the wars and all the catastrophes that have occurred, they're just replaying. So this whole... Because they are seated within the memory fields of those living on those lands. Yeah, and so what's happening right now is this whole grid is being reconstructed. And what happens with that is that a lot of people don't know who they are anymore because the belief systems, the identity that they've been trying to pull from is not available in the circuitry system that holds the memory in the field. And this is happening over time and time. And this happens, for example, when an astronaut goes out into space and they leave the electromagnetic field of the earth. Some have had full-blown mystical experiences because the biochemicals in their brain start activating outside of the earth's electromagnetic field. And another symptom is they just forget completely who they are. They just don't have the memories because all your memories... The brain is receiving oxygen like it does here. Yeah, the brain isn't wired with the memories inside you. It's in the energy field. It's in the field. So if you're in a different field, you don't have the reference points to pull from. And so a lot of people will struggle through this time, even though it's a great occurrence. It's chaotic for people that aren't based on their hearts because it's a heart compass that connects you to the greater field. And if you're not there, the mind is going to be basically struggling. And so this is... Much more so than we're seeing now. Yeah, so it is important to acknowledge, coming back to the heart is the key to all of this. This leads us to the path of divine service. It wasn't... Yeah, how can we surrender to this path of inner mastery through the path of divine service? What does service mean to you? It's a beautiful question. Service means several things. On one hand, it means using my gifts in a way that betters. Leave something, people, locations, situations, energy. Holy different than when I entered it. It also means that I know this because when I do soundbaths and I sing and I perform, one of the big feedback that we receive is way above your singing voice, this, that it's really the love that people felt in the room. And I do have a huge heart and sometimes it's very easy to love and especially love a beautiful group of people who've showed up. And so I think love is an enormous service. And whether that's in a soundbath or I'm in an elevator or at an appointment and I can change the energy there. I also believe for me, service is if something's happening, that's a crossroads. And I am a witness to it or aware of it. What am I going to choose to do? It doesn't mean it's, for me, it doesn't always mean it is mine to do. But there are times I know I must. I must step in. Sometimes I need to protect somebody. Sometimes I need to speak up for myself or somebody. And sometimes I just need to do something because whether I'm noticed for it or not, I don't know if I'm thanked for it or not, but because it will create a change and because I know in my heart I must. Thank you. What does service mean to you? Service is love in action. Service is the way one expresses that cultivation of love. And it isn't, it's an unconditional loving presence. Service is the giving all of yourself without expecting really anything in return. It is something that is inbuilt into the soul matrix when it comes into a body that becomes in soul. And what does that mean? It means not just a piece of your soul or you're working with the connection to your soul, but you're actually bringing your soul into your body. And when you bring your soul into your body, there is this inwelling and upwelling movement and momentum towards giving because that's really what the purity and the nobility of the soul is here to do. And so looking at service and knowing that that's really why you're here. Like that's really why you've come here, but service without love is selfish. Really, if it's more self-ambitious for your own benefits, then that service can just be self-serving. So the service that we're speaking, the divine service is the very nature of the soul expressing its love or the very nature of spirit expressing love through your actions. But in order for service to be true, love has to be discerned. So love, not just the feeling of love, not just the romantic idea of love, but love also in its complete neutrality. Love being the very awareness that you actually are. Not your mind, not your emotions, not your body, but the very awareness that you are. So discerning between fear and love, fear being ignorance, fear being ignoring the truth, fear making errors that you know not to do and love is making those true choices from who you truly are. Because there seems to be this ascension to something better, something greater, but really you are already perfect in the totality of what love already is. And because you are love, you're already perfect. But to demonstrate that perfection is what one must strive for, one must thrive with, expressing that love in their body, loving the body, loving the emotions, loving the thoughts, sending positive thoughts, loving through spirituality and unconditional love for unity. And then one can truly be in service because then you actually have what it takes to be of service, which is love in action. And in order to truly be in service, you must have detachment. What that means is you must be detached from the emotional outcome of what you do. So when you're doing something, it's not for, oh, so I can feel better. Oh, I can do this, so I can be seen or I can be heard or I can be finally noticed. No, it's you do what you do because that's who you truly are. You are truly generous. The virtue inside you is coded inside your heart, inside your very soul. It's filled with virtues, waning to be expressed. So when you express in life, you play with the beauty of life. You experience the profundity of life, but you're detached from any emotional investments and therefore, you no longer experience suffering because you have no expectations. Suffering is an attachment to an expectation that you have pre-cognized to what you want from someone or something. So being of truly service, you are letting go of those expectations, those emotional investments. And you can get there and by getting there, you can make any aspect of your life of service. So the teaching of service also goes to the point of you use every aspect of your life to serve the divine. Whether you get paid for the work that you do, fantastic. Fantastic. You should be repaid for the goodness that you're sharing. And if someone gives you the frequency of finances, so be it. If they don't, so be it. If there's that giving, there's that replenishment that takes place naturally, but it's an offering. Service is to make your life an offering, no matter if you have a nine to five, no matter if you have children, no matter if you have a family or a garden or anything, even if the dishes. Anything that needs tending to. Anything that needs to be tending to. When you're mindful and within your heart and you're doing it with love, you're making that an offering to the divine. And that is what we mean by service. Can you highlight some ways that someone can be of service? Simple, larger causes, the spectrum in order to be of this divine, selfless, unconditional service. Yeah, like we said, you can be doing your dishes and you can make that an offering. You know, you can make that an offering and if you have a family. You can pay your bills. You can make that an offering. Yeah, you pay your bills and you send the appreciation. Thank you so much to have electricity. And you thank you so much that I can actually pay these bills. Like what a blessing that I can do that. Anything can be turned into a level of service. The highest level of service we're speaking about love in action, full love. It's when you're not noticed, when no one sees you and we speak about this of like helping with meditating and creating coherence. The greatest work that you can really do of service to be completely honest. There's two things here. One is internal work. Do the deep dive. Go inside your shadows, question every single thing that you've ever learned. Go into the an unmask, all the egoic notions of the story. Go in and go deep. Do that work, clear, purify, heal, all of the inner child stuff, all the parental stuff. Go as deep as you possibly can. That psychological process and the spiritual process of unmasking, all of that, that service because what you do inside yourself, you're creating a ripple effect to the collective. So you're serving the collective by walking the ascension path, just by walking the ascension path. Another really big, noble, beautiful level of service is working with the grids, working in community, coming together in a sanctified, coherent container with other loving beings that are of your soul tribe and meditating frequently and meditating at certain strategic locations and times at grids, at nodal points because when you go to a place, like for example, in the middle of our temple, we are so blessed to be able to steward this sacred node, which is basically like this vortexial chalice of frequency that is a center point that connects to many different grids all around the world. It's one of the most powerful nodes on the planet. We've connected it to many different grids all around the world from, and this is large, but what we do is we bring our community and sometimes we do it online as well. We meditate and we send the very vision, the very frequency, the transmission of that coherent love. It is multiplied. So if you have a small group of say 10 people, 20 people, 100 people, even a thousand people, it's still small in comparison to the greater number of humanity. But when you go to a node, a very powerful node that's expansive and connected into other grid networks, that those 10 people, those 20 people become millions and millions. And so the energy becomes multiplied. And when you do that consistently, this is where you can serve the greater worlds and the greater ascension cycle. That's right. And if you are one of those, it's three, three, three right now, as we say that. And you are one of those people that are also what we call liberated. And you've done true cultivation. You can offset millions and hundreds of millions of people and beyond depending on the attainment that you've reached. Yeah. And liberation in this context, what we're speaking about, because ultimately the word is freedom. But what is it freedom from? It's freedom from all the calmers, the samskaras, the soul scars, the samskaras of incarnation, all of the genetic pool of data in your genome, all of that information in your ancestry tree and within your soul tree, all of the negative karma, which means that it's creating deviations from the divine will, all that is purified. So the longer you're in this causal reality where you make an action that creates an effect, you're in an our causal reality, which means that you are beyond cause because you are not in a place of duality, you're in full unity with all that is. And so the process of that is first you actualize, you wanna become actualized, which means you're waking to your higher self, you're waking to all your gifts and abilities, find your gifts and then share your gifts with the world. You know, the purpose of life is to find your gift and your destiny is to share it with the world. And then as you actualize your abilities, there's a deeper level. There's a deeper level, which is self-realization. You realize the unmistakable truth, that one truth that is like a golden lock, I mean, a golden key that unlocks all the doors, all the locks in the mind. The mind is satiated and freed and so is the heart. So that's where you realize the truth. And then a maturation of that realization becomes total liberation, whereas irreversible complete liberation. And the frequency of a being that holds that codex or holds that field, that liberated field is humanity itself, because there's no longer a persona of an individual genetic gene pool or ancestral tree. It is the very species or the very expression of humanity as a whole. And beyond humanity. Yeah, as like a source fractal, so to speak. You know, everyone's a fractal-lies aspect as a whole. This becomes more of a source fractal that is all of it contained in the one. And that's the true nature of consciousness, but to embody that, to have a mind that's fully enlightened to that, to have a heart that's fully activated in coherence with the unified field. That's a different story. That's master it at the grand level. I know that you both offer these empowerment transmissions and people can get on your newsletter and become aware of those whenever you offer them. So empowerment transmissions, for instance, about manifesting parts, wishes, desires, being of service, any of these things. And some of them overlap. Hopefully they overlap quite a bit. And what is behind the transmissions and how might we also engender that ourselves, bring up that energy within ourselves? Yeah, it's simply- It's pure cosmic force. And it's simply the science of harmonic induction. What we're doing is utilizing the field, the one unified field, the cosmic force of creation. Utilizing that field to harmonically induct, you went to a higher coherent state in a higher reality, into a higher field. So you feel more your true self, you feel more loving and kind and generous and giving and more of a demonstration of the true nature. You experience that peace and through that field, you can have instant healings, you can have instant epiphanies, you can have profound creative ideas and it can help restructure your entire life. So one thing that we love to do, we have miracle mentorships where every single month we come together and we help beloveds. You really understand the theme of the cosmic dance, like what is the theme of every single month? What is the initiation that one is going through as the sun goes through a new energy field in a new consolation? The sun represents a light of your soul. That means an aspect of your own soul is also going through that. So how do you partner with the cosmos? How do you become a micro expression of the macro existence? How do you weave into the metacosm, all the many forces and cycles within creation? So we teach that and what we do every full moon is to have full moon transmission because the full moon is the full illumination of the sun, the solar light, emanating from the moon. Just as consciousness is the light of truth, it emanates out and through the minds of humanity. And so the mind is also like the moon. It has many different faces, it has many different thoughts and processes and the sun is like the light of consciousness. And so we just use the field, to harmonically induct you back into your true nature, to whatever you're ready to get to. That's why sometimes it's a gentle process and sometimes it's a powerful cosmic awakening or a cosmic slap, depending upon if you need that quick, re-snap into alignments, but ultimately it's just to better your life. It's a complicated answer to a complicated question, but the basis of that is just, the larger your energy field is, the more you've cultivated, the more cosmic force you have to send. It's in fact that simple. Cultivation and absorption is key. All is light, right? So how much light are you absorbing into your cellular network, into your energy field, into your bio-circuitary system? How much light do you actually hold and how much light can you transmit? So that's what ascension is. Ascension, any symptom, whether it's positive or negative perceptually, it's more light being anchored in to your cells and lighting you up. And that is the ascension process. Well, we call it in-sension because it's an internal process actually. It's the in-sension and you're ascending within. And so every empowerment session, every transmission that we do, is designed to just blanket you with highly coherent light. And what about ascending the physical body? Are there secrets to ascending the physical body? Will you tell them? So, okay. So secrets, let's acknowledge what you're really asking. You're asking what unfolds to the ascension process for the body? And what's the secrets to accessing more of this light? There's a safety mechanism that plays out. You know, if you understand that through the science of cymatics, when we give this demonstration a lot, like cymatics is the vibrational dish, you put sand on it, you increase the frequency, it creates different complex geometric structures. So those geometric structures is a external version of what's happening in your cells. The higher the coherent wave form of frequency that's going through your biology, you're creating new geometries within your cells, within the waters of your body and within the circuitry system of your biocircatory system and your energetic bio-engineering field. So the higher the frequency and you can't just blast the frequency or the sand just goes straight off the plate. And that's exactly what happens. If you blast the frequency, you get short circuited, basically. You have to, it's a gradual step-by-step process. And the first process is purification. That's why I said earlier, purification is 98, if not 99% of this process. But the great secret is get a good teacher. Get a good teacher that has gone through the process and then you'll find the summit. Because if you walk up a mountain, there's an infinite way to walk up the mountain. But there's only one best way. And if you have a guide that's done it before and you have the most direct routes and direct path, then it's gonna make it so much easier for you. So the map of your body- And safe and safer for you. Yeah, and so the map of your biology and the ascension processes, they unfold at different octaves of where you're at on your journey. So you need to make sure that teachings up here mean nothing if you're not there. You have to make progress like every step on a staircase. Not one step is more important than the other. They're all equally relevant to getting to the next floor in your life. So that metaphor is also pertaining to this message. Is that the secrets? All of this, there's many secrets. There's many secret passageways, there's many secret circuitries. There's different energy systems. There's different chakras that can help you embody more gifts. Like there's many, many things. Like there's all the tellers, the telekinesis, the telepathic connection. Ultimately what happens is all your energy centers, your endocrinology or the endocrine glands and the energy centers of the chakras, they start merging. They go into a gold spiral and then they merge into one coherent field and all the sheaths that we spoke about with the bioenergy field, your aura, they start coalescing. They turn into this luminous light body and that's where everything is in a harmonic state where all your chakras are aligned coherence, your field is aligned and coherence and then your field can actually go through another metamorphic transformation because the cocoon of your shell, your field is the very home that actually can hone that light then birth into more your angelic nature or the butterfly in this metaphor. Oh, yummy, yummy. Do you have experience with ETs and UFO connections? Are you in constant communion with that factor or any other factor that isn't seen by the eyes? We have, yes, we have had many encounters. We've sit on councils with different star races from different committees and different signets. Indeed, we've assisted in many different ways off-planets. We've been on countless ships and had physical experiences of the physical body going to... Yeah, we've had a lot of that. We don't talk about these sorts of things. We don't go around because they owe. By the way... We've bought conventional doors and we can do this and we don't do... We've struggled back in time. But I live for this. So this is tremendous. So thank you for being so honest. I appreciate it. I think people know anyway, listening to you, feeling you. It's very obvious, but it's interesting to hear it certified. Are these people, are these races or beings that you commune with? So these are ongoing relationships that you have? Yeah, yeah, we could say that. There's relationships, but it depends what the purpose is. That's really the interaction. It's not just for exploration. It's not just to explore and sort of see what's possible. There's a purpose behind the encounters. There's a purpose behind different communications. There's also different planetary systems that we've incarnated from and that we check in frequently. We travel to different realms and realities. So this is the fun. This doesn't really have anything to do with spirituality, to be honest. This has nothing to do with spirituality. This is just the fun of what can happen. Yes. This is a different level of genetics that we're talking about, that allows us to have these kinds of interfaces. Oh my God. This is like the best movie and novel all into one. We're being very conservative right now. I can tell, and I'm going to honor that. And what about, is there a sacred medicine that you use that assists your work? Is there something that you like to use or follow or ritual practice, anything like that? We have different certifications that we teach that helps basically give you certain technology to employ into your life. We like to empower people, empower beloveds that what we've found valuable or would have been valuable in our journey. We want to offer that very value to humanity. So we've created it. Yes. So we've created different modalities that go into the entire anatomy of the ascension process of the physical body and what happens and what you need to clear. So you have basically what we've done is give you access to the different quantum charts, so to speak, the quantum screens of the unified field of what, if you had clairvoyance and you had the ability to see or sense or feel, these are the aspects that you want to work on and focus on. So we give you tools in order to attain those higher sense perceptions. So we do that. We also teach a lot of the internal alchemy processes, the alchemical process that can help rejuvenate the physical instruments. And because your physical anatomy is a temple, is a sacred temple. It is a divine... To make it a living temple. It is a divine design. The original blueprint of the human species was a divine design. A lot of that knowledge has been forgotten. So when you learn how to connect with the divine system of the original blueprint of your anatomy, you understand the metaphysical processes that occur to each organ and each gland and each bodily system. And that interconnects to planetary systems and celestial constellations. So you are... The body is a measurement of the cosmos. So we love to teach that. We also are very blessed to be stewards of sacramental alchemy, sacred alchemical elixirs that do help support. This is only available for our very high, high depths. And when you allow that, when you've got to a point of higher cultivation. But ultimately, you are the medicine. The medicine is inside you. You are the elixir. You are the technology. You are the greatest technology. You just forgot how to use it. It's dormant to most people on the planet. Yes. So we're here to teach people how to activate it. And there's many things. We believe in giving you every single spectrum of the rainbow, the full spectrum of every color and every ray to be able to make your life heaven on earth. Right. Not just twin ray, but all the spectrums of the ray. And you will be a Conscious Life Expo, February 10th through the 13th. Tell me what you're going to be talking about. And again for folks, there is a link here in the show notes so you can register to attend. Highly recommended. You can get to see these. Beautiful beings in person. Please tell us what will you be talking about? We're going to be doing the opening ceremony. So we're going to be welcoming everybody. And transmitting. In our field in the space. And so. It will be a beautiful opening in a wonderful womb space to bring everybody into. To really ascend them and catapult them through the journey at the expo. That's what we're doing. And that's at what time? 1pm. 1pm on Friday. Beautiful. She looks at me. You're the agenda. I have no idea. What day is it? Friday in the 10th at 1pm. Absolutely. Lax Hilton. I will help you if you need help. I'll be there. You told when to show up. You told when it's time to go. We have two other workshops. We're doing living in heaven on earth. And we're teaching all about. More that we've expressed today. But giving you practical applications of. Literally experiencing heaven. Which is. Your entire reality being filled with. The love and the joy and the peace. And miracles that you truly are. So that's we go. We're going to go deep into every single layer of the process. That unfolds naturally through the ascension cycle. So you can truly live heaven on earth. And it's, it's a very complete workshop. It's something that. Is, is a beautiful, beautiful gift. And then the second workshop. We have. The free workshop. Yeah. And then the second one we have is. 5d ascended relationships where we're going to. We're going to go into relationships. I'm going to teach. About calling in the one. What's it mean to call in the one. What's it mean to call in the one. And also live in the oneness of a relationship. Perfect your relationship into a higher harmonic. So even if you're in a relationship, how to create more of that oneness. That you're talking about that divine relationship, divine sacred relationship within what is already established. Exactly. Yeah, this is. And we haven't done this yet. You know, we haven't shared. We're not. We're not, you know, this, this sacred rituals and a sacred way of, of relationship and a different aspects of relationships. So this is the first time that we're really going to share, and this is by popular request by a community. And just to, to, to make it. Clear to you. Until all of the beloveds watching. We are in what's called a bra material relationship. Yeah. Which means that we're completely celibate. That's right. So we are in a celibate relationship. we are in one coherent field and we are one, one expression. So... And may I just say, I know this, watching you, it is, it's like a symphony. Hearing you speak, for instance, Sanandaji, and Shakina Ma, it's like a ballet with her hands is almost speaking, enacting what you're saying. But a compliment constantly to watch the both of you, it is so beautiful. And it is, for certain to me, incredibly apparent that there is a one energy, a shared space there. Thank you, beloved, for those precious words. And yes, we're going to teach more about that and how sacred a container of relationship can be. And we also have a booth and we're bringing our haven, which is our store here in Ashland, Oregon. We're bringing the haven. It's a temple store. Yeah, it's a temple. It really is. It's very palatial. It's a sacred crystal offering. And so we're bringing special aspects. We shared earlier about the elixir. For example, there's a golden elixir that we're bringing and that is fully encoded with gold, which basically allows you to embody gold, which is a superconductor for your pineal gland and for your entire biology. And this goes through the blood-brain barrier, which is extremely important. Yeah, it's real alchemy. It's not just, you know, blessed water. It's really profound in what it does and it's actually from a 5,000-year-old recipe, actually. But that's just one. We've actually created a whole line of biaceuticals, which are like whole food supplementation to support the ascension. Yeah, bringing miracles to just true wealth and health for people. Yeah. For us, we wanted to create something that because there's so much soil depletion, there's so many different chemicals that one is bombarded with in a day, a lot of the ascension symptoms is actually detoxification. So we wanted to create a whole line that would give you as much nutrients to like one of our formulas, for example, it's called galactic Gaia. One scoop of that is like having a thousand salads, like you just can't eat that amount of nutrients, but this impals the body so it detoxifies, rebuilds, restructures, rejuvenates. So we've got this whole line of biaceuticals that we're bringing and crystals and sacred offering candles and ancient art work. Yeah, ancient incense for ceremonial incense. Will you be at your booth very much, do you think? Ish. Our team will be. And they're all amazing. Our team is like, they're all incredible bright light angels. Whether we're at our booth, we might make an appearance or so, but we got our booth for our community. That's why we got the store, we got the store for our community to give them dynamic service for the world. And what they tell us every single day that the store is open is that the amount of healings that happen just from coming in, the frequency changes. People so significantly, some start to cry when they come through and they feel like they're home for the first time. Children that are coming in feel like this is, they're finally being understood for the first time. And it's, it's definitely revolutionary. Yeah, it's, it's, there's nothing quite like it. It's very celestial. It's very sort of. Like we are. Very celestial and it's, it's a full experience just to come. And we have all these, you know, sacred, sacred jewelry offerings as well. So we're going to bring everything and, and yeah, we, we are twin ray talismans. Yeah, some of the most powerful talismans. Yeah, they're pretty amazing. They, they, they expand your field by like, by like 300 yards. Like, it's amazing. Nice. I was thinking it'd be so cool to come to the booth. And if somebody could, I was thinking of you, but if perceive my body and what would be good for me to get, I don't like to just get whatever. But you know, if there's something in particular that would be very powerful for me, you know, that sounds fabulous. They are trained to do that and we can also help a little bit. Our angel team is, is well trained. They're, they're well certified and we're, we're teaching our community how to scan someone's biology. Excellent. Exactly what they need in order to rectify whatever symptoms they're experiencing. Right, what bioseuticals they would need. What energy, what energies, call in. So it's, we've been doing that. Yeah. Nice. Much more to come. We're really just beginning. We really are just beginning. I'm so grateful to know the both of you. And this conversation was amazing, powerful, full of wisdom and insight. And I feel so directive. Really opening a possibility for people and all of us to step into in a big way. And I thank you for that. I can't wait to see you in person in a few weeks. That's going to be tremendous. And to also watch you speak in person. This is dare to dream, twin Ray, what are you next dare to dream. This is a huge question for you. So I'll leave it to you, but what are your future dreams or goals. My dream is to manifest the full Kingdom and Kingdom of God on physical planet Earth for every beautiful pure heart to live in the sovereignty of their soul sovereignty and purity of their being and to live in harmony in the utopic euphoric Eden of what this life should be and can be. And we're going to do it together. And we're going to do it. This is a corporation. So our dream is the heart's calling of humanity's dream. Our dream is the destiny of humanity and we have come for that. Thank you. How lucky are we how lucky are we, folks, if you would like more information go to twin Ray.com also la conscious life expo coming up. It'll be worth. I promise your time. And I in today's show with this quote from Stephen Covey, perform anonymous service, wherever we do good for others anonymously, our sense of intrinsic worth and self respect increases selfless service has always been one of the most powerful methods of influence. If you want to subscribe to this number one transformation conversation, dare to dream with Debbie dashinger subscribe like send this to friend or family who you know need to hear this conversation. And next week on the show, I am featuring the amazing Oscar Mira, who's out there, and he's respected come Oscar, Karen Dara and Altamiso Yoke, adept from Peru, founder of the heart of the healer originator of the Pachacuti messa tradition. Oscar is an internationally acclaimed shamanic teacher and healer, and I promise we will be having profound conversation indeed. Thank you for joining us today on dare to dream. Oh, that was a transmission for sure. That was amazing. That was really deep y'all, you brought it. I'm marinating. Thank you, thank you. Do you know, have you ever been on Lee Carols show. We know Lee Carol channels cry on. No, but oh my goodness. I need, I need a transmission from 1090. No, we would love to believe it was car on that mentioned that 101010 was the was the time vector of when Christ consciousness returned to the actual planet. That's when I get that's exactly the day I came in. How interesting because I got a download. I can't say exactly when during the show but fairly early on because I could see where I wrote it where I just wrote, like, if you haven't, I feel like they do this thing called healing Wednesdays you know he's called for now. And he so Lee Carol is the man that cry on comes through and with his partner Monica, she's lovely, lovely. They do this healing Wednesdays and then they feature other people and they have a worldwide audience. Yeah, open to be in service in any way we can be beautiful. Cool. Well, I got the download you said yes so I will reach out. They have casting directors, believe it or not so I will reach out to the casting directors and and let them know about you I'll also send them the link to this show so they get it. Wonderful. Yes. Yeah, for sure. And what is happening with your book by the way. We need time to write it. Okay. We need time to continue to write it. Definitely bending time but the book is destined to come out. Must come out this year. Yeah, so we'll definitely will definitely have a conversation with you in regards to that. Six months prior to before we say okay we're about six months away from the finale. That would be amazing. You can come to me anytime, frankly, and we can have that conversation at, you know, the wider birth the better, and we can talk about things we can create. Absolutely. So you have an idea of what that looks like and what feels exciting to you. But yeah, beautiful and you know and it's okay. I mean. And I know you know it's okay you've got a lot going on, but the book. Yeah, it's a baby. Right. It's an entity, and it's literally going to come and be born when it's ready to be born and I'll help be your doula when it's ready. So when it comes out, the tiny story that you know that the tiny little bit of the story that you know this is. This is just a vast breadth of all of this that's coming. Oh cool, it will all be in the book. A lot of it will be in the book. It might be a series. We'll see how we go we'll see if we can put as but it's going to change it will change the world we are certain of that. Okay, oh my gosh, well, that's very exciting. I'll have some of that too please. Well thank you both I'm energetically hugging you sending you just I have so much love for you truly I do. It's a magnificent way to spend time. Thank you. Thank you. Send you all that love. Yes, we love you so much and it's a joy and a great, great honor to help in any way we possibly can. You do. I will send your team links as soon as they are ready. And you will have everything to share with your community. And I can't wait to see you soon. Okay. Thank you.