 Welcome to another edition of In The Zone. I am your host, Chris Broussard. It's a special edition right after game three of the NBA Finals. Of course, Golden State took a 3-0 lead. Myself and Jason McIntyre will discuss that as always in Knockdown J. But first, I'm going to hit you with this top five and with the Warriors up 3-0, as I said, on their way to a third championship in four years, that got a brother to thinking, what are the best five dynasties in NBA history? And yes, I am calling these Golden State Warriors a dynasty in the making. So I'm going to start at number five with these Golden State Warriors. I know some of you may think that's low, but look, they're only about to win their third championship in four years. There have been teams to do more throughout NBA history. This is an all-time great team, no doubt about it. Best backcourt in NBA history, Steph Curry and Clay Thompson. Yes, best backcourt, not just the best shooting backcourt, best backcourt overall. And they're the best shooting team of all time because you throw in the seventh footer, Kevin Durant. This is a team that does it defensively, does it offensively. They've beaten the great, arguably greatest player of all time, LeBron James, three times in the finals. That's why they rank up there now as the fifth best dynasty in NBA history. At number four, the Shaq, Kobe Lakers. Gotta give it to them because they three-peded. This Golden State team has not done that. They reached the final Shaq and Kobe four times in five years, losing once. They had two of the top 10 players of all time. And during that three-peat, when they beat Philadelphia, Indiana, and New Jersey, Shaquille O'Neal was arguably the most dominant force we've ever seen in NBA history. That's why they're number four. At number three, let's stay in Los Angeles and go with the showtime Lakers of Magic Johnson and Karim Abdul-Jabbar. I'm going to also throw in my man James Worthy. And a fourth Hall of Famer was Jamal Wilkes. I could go on and on. Byron Scott, Norm Nixon was there for a piece, got a title. Michael Cooper. I mean, it go on. And Bob McAdoo, another Hall of Famer was there for a smidgen. They made eight finals in 10 years. Think about that. Eight finals in 10 years. They won five of them. They beat Dr. J. They beat Larry Bird. They beat Isaiah Thomas in the NBA finals. Showtime Lakers at number three. At number two, Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls. I mean, need I say more? They had the goat, the greatest player of all time, MJ. They were the only team of this list. And I'll get to number one, to never lose in the finals, six and oh, in the finals, two, three beats. I mean, it never got taken to seven games. One of the greatest rebounders of all time for three of their titles, Dennis Rodman, Michael Jordan. I don't need to say more Bulls number, number two on the list. Number one, Bill Russell Celtics. I know some of you want to make fun and say all back in the 60s. I could have been a great back then. No, they were balling in the 60s and none greater than Bill Russell. Look, he won 11 titles. 11 titles in 13 years. He was 11 and one in the finals. He beat Will Chamberlain three times to get to the finals, beat Will again in the finals, beat Jerry West, the logo six times in the finals. And the logo had Elgin Baylor, the precursor to Julius Irving, to Michael Jordan, to Connie Hawkins, to Vince Carter, Kobe Brown, all these high flyers we see now. Elgin Baylor, the precursor. They beat him six times to play next to Jerry West. Bill Russell with his cast of Hall of Famers, Bob Cousy and all that. They are the greatest dynasty in NBA history. All right. Welcome to another segment of Knock Down Jay. My man, Jason McIntyre in for another beating. What you got for me, man? Well, where should we start? Chris, you want to start game three? You want to start Brian Colangelo? I think we should start with your top five because I got a little beef with ranking the Warriors dynasty behind the Chicago Bulls. They were way behind the Chicago Bulls. Way. I had Bulls too. And yeah, I mean, if you want to count teams from the 50s when there was 11 teams, that's fine. Actually with the Shaq Kobe Lakers and Showtime Lakers. Oh, jeez. Oh my gosh. I thought that was Celtics. I mean, you really put the Warriors that deep? You're disrespecting Shaq Kobe Lakers? No, they were good, but these Warriors would crush them. Oh, yes. Who would have guarded Shaq? Dwayne Montgomery? What would Shaq do in the pick and roll in the threes? Come on, let's stop. Let's go to the Warriors Bulls. Here's my quick argument for the Warriors, okay? I'm kind of playing just kicking the Warriors. You can't throw me out of the zone every week. Come on. Come on. So they win 73 games in the regular season, most in NBA history. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. You can't stop there. How did that season end? Well, you know, the Dreymont suspension in the finals, the Andrew Bogan injury, and they lost in seven. Okay. They lost. The greatest or second greatest player, depending who you want to listen to at this network. They lost, though. Okay. So I don't even know why that season comes up, other than to say it. 73 wins. But it doesn't matter. Oh my gosh. It doesn't matter. Anyways, they were down 3-1-2 to Oklahoma City. When you go, the following year with Kevin Durante, 16-1 postseason, the only defeat, the only blemish, a game where Kyrie had 40 and Cav set every three-point record in the history books in the finals. Then they come back this year. They get by what is considered by the advanced stats, the Rockets, the 65-1 Rockets, as the greatest offensive team in NBA history. That's what the advanced stats say about this Rockets offense. They knock them off and they're about to sweep who you, you know, Cal Herd, Whitlock, second best player in NBA history is about to get broomed out of the finals. To me, that is an impressive three wins in four years. And Chris, you know, this isn't ending anytime soon. Clay's 28, Dreymont's 28, KD 29, Steph Curry 30. They could win three more in a row. Could. Have they? We deal with facts, not feelings. So we'll stick with the 3-0, 3-4, 3-4. 3-4. Okay. They've won 3. And you're saying they're better than the Bulls as far as their dynasty is better than the Bulls. The Bulls won 3-5. No, no, no, no. Yes, he did. The Bulls won 6. 6. 6 is better than 3. In fact, it's double 3. How in the world does a team that wins three rings in four years be a better dynasty than a team that won six in essentially six years? I've got a good idea. Why doesn't Curry and Dreyont just take a year and a half off and then come back and be refreshed for another run? Like, to me, Jordan taking that time off diminishes what they accomplished a little bit. A year and a half off and I will say this. Six in six years. No. What? The other two years don't matter? No, they don't. Oh. Because Michael Jordan just like Michael Jordan's years with the Wizards don't matter. Chris, let me ask you this. Did Michael Jordan's Bulls ever sweep anybody in the finals? Who cares? Did they ever go seven? Did they ever lose? How about that? It's fair. How about forgetting number of games? Did they ever lose in the finals? Well, I mean, you know, Scottie Pippen gets thrown out for some bogus technical foul and suspension. It wasn't bogus. He kept this cool. Dreymont didn't keep his cool. And the fact is, who knows? We don't know if they would have lost. They would have won or not. McIntyre starts out 1-0. There's no issue. Curry, Durant, baby. Six is double three. I got the best player, Michael Jordan. My team never lost in the finals. Did yours do it? Humor me for a second. It's over. Just humor me for a second. How do the matchups go in that series? Just run through them quickly. Who guards Curry, Jordan or... You could, it could be any number of people. No, how about Ron Harper, who was a very good defender. He was good. All NDA? No, but he was a very good defender. Scottie Pippen is on Kevin Durant. Michael Jordan smashed up with Clay Thompson. Look, come on. Dennis Rodman is on Dreymont. I might put Rodman on Durant and muscle him. I'm not even arguing that they're the better team. I'm saying which dynasty is better. And I got one dynasty that won six titles in six years. I got another dynasty. I'll even give you seven if you want to take Jordan's 17-game season encounter. How come no one talks about Shaq and Penny just beating them down? Because he was playing baseball for a year and a half. That's his fault. But still, anybody with a brain in their head knows six and six years or seven years is better than three and four. Let's move on to the next topic. Kevin Durant just dropped 43. Looked like the best player on the planet in the last night. He was unbelievable. My gosh. I'm going to have to recreate that shot on Instagram just for the watchers out there. But I got to ask you, LeBron's a free agent. Please don't. LeBron's a free agent. You know I've been riding the Lakers train hard. Kevin Durant can opt out. People are speculating, well, why don't LeBron and Kevin Durant team up on the Lakers? You know, Internet people, the Twitter trolls, eggs. I mean, people are starting to write this. I think people are just looking at it and saying, hey, why not? He could be free. Nobody's considering him. Yeah. Okay. Personally, I think that would be an awful look for Kevin Durant. So Durant and LeBron going to the Lakers. Yeah, they would be dominant. I think they would probably take down the Warriors. Depending on how the Warriors filled the Durant spot. I just think that's a bad look for KD. You just beat LeBron twice. Badly. Okay. Durant, you won finals MVP last year. He could win it again this year. I just don't see why Kevin Durant would leave this amazing situation in a game where Curry can go off. Next game, Clay goes off. There's no pressure on Durant. And you start stacking chips. I just don't see how LeBron and KD could ever team up with the Lakers. I'm with you on this one. I think that'd be a bad look for both of them, actually. For LeBron? Yeah, I definitely think it would be a bad look for KD because there are some, I've talked to players around the league and other people, fans who are saying that, yeah, we understand how great KD is, but they're a little, they're not as high on these rings because that some feel like he took the easy way. I'm not saying I feel that way. Please tell just for the record, look into the camera. Do you think Kevin Durant took the easy way out? And now I wouldn't say the easy way. I'll give you, look, I have not ripped Durant for going to the Warriors. I won't start now, but you did go to a 73 win team. I mean, that's, that's, that had a championship. That's undeniable. So, but there are those that feel like he took the easy way out. If he, but if, if you went to the Lakers with LeBron, they would say the same thing. If you want it, because you got the best player in the world, you got the two best players in the world. And if you stay with Golden State, it is essentially becoming his team. I've always said Steph Curry is the most important player on the team. Kevin Durant's the best player, Steph's the most important, but when the pushes come to shove, when their backs have been against the wall, when it's been time to close the deal the last two years, it has been Kevin Durant who has done it. Hold on, let me finish. And so in a lot of people's minds, this is a group that's going to be a team. Yes. Like Kobe, I mean, uh, Magic, Kareem, they're a team. They were a team. Kobe and Shaq, I don't know that they were a team. There was always that, but there was that tension. It was probably Shaq's team, but it was both, they were both so close. They were both so close to though that you just look at the Shaq Kobe Lakers. So I'm not saying this is like, you know, I just think if you had to say it's one person's team, it probably would be Durant. But we don't have to see that. I know, I know. But my point is he would get probably the lion's share of the credit. If you go play with LeBron, then a lot of people say it's LeBron's team. And it may end up being his team. If you're LeBron, Kevin Durant, this is why I say it's a bad look for LeBron. Kevin Durant, as you said, he just smoked you twice in the fight, right? It looks like if you can't beat him, join him. Yeah. And so I don't think it's a good look for you. So I think this is why he left Oklahoma City. We're talking about whose team is it? Curry or Durant? I don't think they think like that. I don't think he cares. They're a unit. Like Curry does not need that. Russell Westbrook needed that. He wanted the ball. He wanted the late shots. I think that's probably why Durant left for the Warriors, because they don't think like that. I don't think it was about whose team it was, because it was clearly his team. Well, he was the better player, but Westbrook was a point guard. Yeah, but people viewed it as Durant number one. But I agree with you. I don't think he or the Warriors care about whose team it is. And that's why they're special. Now, I'll ask you, do the LeBron plus Durant Lakers, do they dominate the West? I think they would, I would pick them. I don't know how you would replace Kevin Durant. I'm going to throw out a bonus, a bonus knockdown. Okay. So happens I'm ready for a bonus. Well, because you brought up something interesting. You don't think Durant's a shoe in for the MVP of the final? I don't think so. Okay, go ahead. I think he, I would have loved to have Steph won it. I think after the first two games, Steph was the favorite. But after last night, let's say they all three have pretty good games in game four and win. Durant has to be time out. Okay, so let's talk through this game one. Kevin Durant was bad. He had a timeout. I think it was eight for 22 shooting. He missed the JR Smith box out. Okay, he took a lot of bad shots late in regulation. Could have killed him. I did it, did it, did it, did it. It didn't because JR Smith, you know, so it's irrelevant. He didn't have a good game. Curry had a better game than Durant in game one. But he was spectacular. He was not spectacular. Game two, Curry was spectacular. Set a record with 9-3. Durant was really good though. Durant was very good. Game three, Curry was awful. Durant was phenomenal. Durant was 10 for 14 in game, games three, two. He had like 29, eight, nine, and he was amazing. Yeah. But I think it's going to come down to game four. And my guess is, what did Curry do in game three? Curry was awful. How many points do you have? Ten? You're not winning the finals MVP with a 10 point game. But that's the reason. Unless he goes seven and he's spectacular. In a four game series, you can't have one bad game. If Curry has 35 in game four. Well, if, right, if he has 35 and Durant has 24, Durant's MVP. Okay, that's possible. But remember, the media votes on this. Durant's not going to have 10 points. Do you think the media is more likely to vote for Curry, a guy who's never won the finals MVP and has been very good in the series, or Durant, who's been, you know, he was not good in game one. And then if Curry cleans up in game four. He wasn't nearly as bad as Steph was in game three. That's factual. But I don't, you're basing it on just game three, because he was horrible. What is it? Give me a stat. Two for 15. I think he had 10 points. Two for, now look, I'll give you this. If it goes seven, that's four more. It's not going seven. I'm just saying you, if you have a 10 point game, you need other games by which to make that 10 point game disappear. Okay. So one game is not enough. So you think automatically Durant's going to be the, I mean, assuming Durant's not going to have 10 points. Durant has been the most consistent scorer on the Warriors throughout the playoffs. His lowest scoring game has been 22 points in the whole playoffs. So he was great in game two. He was phenomenal in game three. He has had in shoulders above anyone else in the race for MVP. Well, I think he's, he's the leader, but I, by far, 10 points, two for 15. In a game, Durant had 43. How many guys in the media vote for finals on VP is it? 15 guys, 10 guys. I don't know what it is now. I remember times I voted in the past was like 11. Do you think they would split the MVP? Curry and Durant, they not do that. It would just have to happen randomly, but I think they have an odd number of homes. Odd number, okay. I mean, it could happen if, you know, because other guys could get a vote. Maybe some, you know, my guess is Durant in game four comes out. I want to get Curry the MVP. He's never been a finals MVP. I think he feeds Curry and tries to get it for. I don't think Durant's built like that where he's like, Oh, I got it. I don't think Durant cares. I don't think Curry cares to be honest. I think they're just going to go out and play, but you can't go out in an NBA game, especially a finals game and say, I want to get him to play. You just got to play. You don't, you don't play with history like that. You better close out Cleveland and both play your best. Play drops 50 in game four. No shot. I mean Durant's not going to. That's how this team is though. I'll give you this. If Steph went out in game four and had 49 and is just lighten it up and Durant had seven. Well, I mean, but that's not happening. That's not happening. Let's go to the final topic. This is the hottest topic in the NBA today. The 76ers have parted ways with Brian Colangelo. We know the situation there and Philly has been ugly. We want to ask, did the 76ers do the right thing? Chris, the evidence now uncovered by the law firm is that his wife was behind the Twitter accounts and they have found no evidence that Colangelo was involved. So when you hear that, is there any way that the sixers should have said, well, listen, we got to keep Colangelo. I mean, did they do the right thing here? I think they did. I feel bad for Brian, but I think they did the right thing. And look, I know I talk with my wife about stuff that goes on at work. Yes, indeed. You know, and you know, I don't blame him for talking to his wife. I mean, you talk to your wife probably. There's a huge divide among the single people, the young single people were like 25 and they're like, well, why would you tell your wife this stuff? Guys, guys, when you get married, you share everything with your wife. And you don't even do it out of obligation. You just, that's your partner in the life. If you can't talk to her or she can't talk to you about what's going on at work, then why are you married? Yeah. So I don't blame him for talking about that stuff with his wife. It's unfortunate that she went out and tweeted it. They're probably sitting in bed, you know, hanging out at the dinner table. He sees the Meek Mill Joellenbead video and he's like, what the heck is my guy doing? Well, sure, listen, man, come on. I don't blame, like, yeah, exactly. But at the same time, I would agree with you. You've got to let go. Yeah, they can't bring him back. Because now the trust is broken. And now if you're a player for the Sixers, if you're an agent dealing with the Sixers, if you're an executive, whatever, and you're talking to Brian Calangelo, in the back of your mind, there are two doubts. One, what I'm sharing with him, is it going to stay here? Because, you know, they know too. Your wife, you just talked to your wife. So does she tweet it out? Number two, even though they didn't find evidence, don't tell me everybody sitting there thinking, oh, Brian didn't do anything. Some people still probably think he has something to do with it. He looked the other way, right? You just don't know. So I think for that reason, unfortunately, you had to do, I'll say this, I bet you he lands somewhere else. Not this year, next year. Like in a consultant role or actual. Jerry Calangelo, his dad, is one of the most powerful guys in the NBA. Right. And in basketball in general. And so I could see. That's a off sell on your fan base, Chris. Hey, by the way, the Markel Foltz trade is still out there. No, that was a bad trade. This could be a Greg Oden, Kevin Durant type deal, when you factor in a trade. So I give it a few, I agree. But give it a few years, couple years. I might be wrong, but I think let me ask you this. This is one of the best jobs out there. This is better than any head coaching job that exists in the NBA that's available. You know, you got, you're going to inherit two top 15 players in the league in Simmons and Embied. Your thoughts on the David Griffin possibly getting the job to bring in LeBron. Would that work? LeBron and his, you know, brain trust, they obviously like David Griffin. They, they, you know, they got along well with him and Cleveland. Now, would David Griffin get LeBron? They're like, is it, if you hire David Griffin, is it automatic? No. No, LeBron ain't going to be like, Hey, exactly. It's not, he's going to follow him. But David Griffin would certainly be a GM that LeBron would respect and have no problem with. With they, they're in position to hand pick whoever they want. I mean, you could have big names out there, somebody from the Celtics, the Spurs, maybe even the Warriors front office who's like, yeah, that's a great job. You know, it's like Rich Paul, who's agent for LeBron James and Ben Simmons is very close with Philadelphia ownership. So I don't know. It depends on what LeBron and them are going to want. Are they going to want to hand pick a GM? Does LeBron even want to go to Philadelphia? All that has to factor in. But if you're Philadelphia, you do, you do your due diligence. You find out how serious he is about Philadelphia, what it will take to get him. And I'm going to be honest, if it would take him handpicking the GM, look. It's not like he hasn't handpicked a coach before. They haven't won a title since 1983. And I will say this, LeBron and River, Ben is a protege of LeBron's. Rich Paul is the agent for Ben Simmons. They're not going to do something that is just selfish for them. They're going to also look out for the best interests of Ben Simmons. Honestly, what I think needs to happen in Philly too is LeBron and Ben Simmons, and if Rich Paul wants to be there, fine, they need to have a heart to heart. Honestly. LeBron and Ben Simmons? Yes, because that's why I don't think it's going to work. It has to be like, how is LeBron going to play? We saw this with Kyrie in Cleveland. Yeah, but LeBron come back and it's like, it's LeBron's team. And Kyrie's like, you drafted me to be the guy. And it broke down after three. But Kyrie shouldn't have been the guy. LeBron's the guy. Yes. But these young guys, number one overall picks. Kyrie's not stupid. He knew LeBron was the guy. Okay. Anybody that gets on the court with LeBron is going to see he's the guy. The issue, there were many issues, but one was that Kyrie was a point guard and a point guard who wanted to handle the ball. And that is the issue. Whereas let's say LeBron handled it, I don't know, 60 to 70% of the time with Kyrie. 60%, whatever. With Ben Simmons, it should be about 10%. Well Kyrie can play off the ball. He can make threes. Exactly. Ben can. He can't do nothing. And they have to have this heart to heart. Not only, okay, are you willing to go off the ball, but do you really think you can? You've been playing on the ball LeBron, not since you entered the NBA, since you began playing basketball. And they have to honestly, because it would hurt LeBron too. It wouldn't just hurt Ben if LeBron has the ball. Ben Simmons is not going to help your team if he's off the ball most of the time. He can occasionally, he can post. And this last thing I'll say, and then you can go, it will help LeBron. At his age, it would conserve energy if he's off the ball. If he's at the elbows, sometimes in the post, on the wing, moving sometimes without the ball. That's a lot less pressure. This is where I miscalculated Houston. I did not think Chris Paul and James Harden would work. James Harden had just become the point guard, was like top three in assists. But James Harden had been a shooting guard before. Chris Paul can play off the ball and make shots, and it worked in Houston. We didn't know Chris could do that. I know, it was like, wow. So the Sixers made the right decision essentially here, getting rid of Colangelo. I think we're in agreement here. So we'll go with a 2-1-1 score for you. No, we'll go with a 4-0. We agreed on one. How could that be a victory for you? It's just because it's my show. Knocked down, Jay. My man, Jason McIntyre, as always. Go to Apple Podcasts, SoundCloud, iTunes. Download the pod. Give us five stars. Leave a comment if you like what you've been hearing.