 the item on your agenda, the mock-up reappeal question. Katrina has a paperwork, but when you get to that, to the mock-up reappeal, all you need to do is approve the answers from Paul Gillesis that he has written out. Right. And on the Travis Blodgett's motion that Paul has written out, he's still put out to design. Travis Blodgett's motion, because it was filed after Montgomery's appeal. And once an appeal has been received, it's in the court hands. And it goes out of the jurisdiction of the select board. OK. That would be the basis of denying it. But in reference to his concerns that the trail that's being discontinued is not on the plaque, that's correct. I know. So Rob Townsend is putting it on the plaque. It would be a revised plaque. OK. So his concerns will be addressed anyway. Oh, that's good. They're not charged, and Robin charged us for that, I think? I would say he was not, because it shouldn't have been on there. First to the last thing is the, I did talk with the state of Vermont about getting a sign up by the mayor's staffer. And they're doing their traditional thing. They're doing a traffic investigation, just like they did. I asked them to just put a pedestrian sign in. They have to go through the hole. Like the Heaven Way Shield Phillips. I mean, I don't know if they went through the hole thing there. Probably. Dick Hosske told me any signage that goes on the state, rights of way, there needs to be approved by the traffic. I mean, that's the area of traffic investigation. And the same thing with the water area where Lord Gantz has her. I asked them to base their investigation on lots of new houses in that area and increase in traffic. That's about all I have. That's it? I have a lot of stuff. Come on, please. Right? I did. Martin and I did meet with Henry Lewis. Oh, good. The driveway thing is really, it's really not a town issue. We've made recommendations on what we would suggest it was to put in some sort of infrastructure in front of its mark. We need to consider that. And then as far as the tree, so the tree, as you know, is dead. But it's not, even though it's in the right way, I just don't feel like the town is obligated to take down. There's no reason for us to take it down. That thing that was in the street? Yes. I don't think there's any dead ones. I mean, there's three sick passports. I think that's what it is. Yeah, yeah, it's sicker than one. But anyway, I don't feel like it's a road hazard or any hazard of town. I don't feel any response fell here. We should pursue that. And I told them that. I did tell them that. I bring up the site board. They thought differently. We all get the wrong, but there's a lot of trees in the town right away that I don't think we should be responsible for every tree or else we'd be in. We'd spend a lot of money cutting trees. There are other good trees until someone's staying down and they go bad, and then they're out cleaning up their problem. You have to come around and cut every tree before it gets to be nice like a tree. And I don't think that's what it is. It's my opinion, at least. OK. Yeah, that's why I left it up to Martin to take a look at it and see what he thought in terms of the road. It wasn't their issue with Martin that started with a tree. Yeah, that's an important kind of thing. Did you talk about that when you were down the road? I did not look at that tree. That's it? OK. Count. OK. Right. Yeah. So this is from Charles and George O'Brien over on Cobb Hill. We have concern of a large tree in front of our house on Cobb Hill Road. The tree is in the right-of-way for the road. The tree has lost several branches, two that have lost extension damage to electrical lines and loss of power, not only to our house, but also our neighbors. Also, his cause damage to our siding on our house. If you're asking the select board to please have the rest of the tree removed, four more damage is done to our house and to our neighborhood. Would you please have the answer concerning this matter? Thank you, Charles and George O'Brien. So Martin and I were back a little bit on this. That's an old one. Oh, OK. Yeah. Yeah, so that's an old one, right? The same decision from someone else. Right, right, right. I attached a letter just so that you could see that someone asked if this had happened before. Right, and Jason wanted to lodge it. Yeah. And? Yeah. So I took a look at the tree, and the worst part that would have made a road issue is gone. So the rest of the tree is leaning right at their house, but it has absolutely no problem with the road. So unfortunately, it's not going to happen. I don't know if it can contact the power, but if it's a power company issue, or whether they would do anything about it or not. Yeah. So did Martin? Martin recommended doing nothing. That was not a concern. So Martin did not talk to Senator any correspondence to. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Martin did respond to all of us, which he saw. And he just said that he was aware of the tree. Charles O'Brien had asked me about this tree numerous times. My answer to him has always been that he would have to involve the site board on this tree. Piersaddy has done his request that the tree is in question. In question is indeed in the right of way. However, for a lot of trees in town with the right of way, I will not be making the decision on this tree. It will be an expensive takedown, and it will require two sales to do so. No, he did respond to O'Brien's. OK, sorry. Right. So you need to respond to O'Brien's letter. Yeah, and that letter that's attached is probably the same thing. Basically, the letter that I'll use is the same that went to Blodgett, who's an angel. Right, right. OK. How long was that? How was the date on that one? That was December of 2012. I would say in the letter it would be pretty much the joint opinion I saw from Blodgett. I feel silly that I never sent a note thanking you for this generosity. We have not resolved the issue, and doubt that we will. Wow. Though we appreciate your offer tremendously, we will respectfully decline the offer to town compared to our non-community service that comes up instead. Thank you so much, your line is on the line. So that was where we were going to set aside $500. Those are rewarded, right, Bill? Yeah, from Steve Smith. I shall this email to inform you on the select board that I have retired from the fire department as of tonight, dated July 17th. I am leaving for personal reasons. I have spoken to all staff in Pratt, Captain, and Wellhold, helping First Assistant Chief about my departure. There will be a special meeting in-house to all the new Chiefs, so to be able to call me if I wish. And here's a letter from Dr. Koskin of the Waterbury Anduance. Folks, as I'm sure you recall, Jim Hermanowski and I met with each of your town's select boards on the end of 2017 and discussed general funding opportunities for WASI. At that time, we all agreed to come back together in 2018 to discuss this further. It appears that time has come. I'd like to propose a meeting date time of Tuesday, 4th of September at 1 PM at the Waterbury Anduance Station. Please let me know if this works for you, and if not, please propose an alternate date and time. Thank you for your time. We look forward to a fruitful discussion. Good morning. You guys had a meeting that night. Right. Right. Would you like to propose an alternate date? September 10th. The following Monday? September 10th. You have a special meeting at night, so with the PC, and DRB, and ZOMI, we have something that we want to add them to it. That is an alternate date. I think on that night, on the 9th of the 4th, what do you mean? Or could we put a one-day meeting? For the 4th. Well, it could be, but. They want a meeting. They're not going to be in that meeting. That's their meeting. Right. Yeah. They're not going to be in Waterbury, but at 1 PM. Oh, yeah. I suppose we could either the 4th or the 10th. I could do that. I could do the one-off. But it would be nice to have more of a agenda from then. Are they proposing some sort of budget increase, which I'm sure? I don't know. If they're proposing a per capita budget with the towns, is that what they're asking for? Yeah. Most of the time, when they ask for services like that, it's on a per capita basis. Right. So if they could give us some more information, maybe we could talk about, or maybe you could do the meeting on the 4th. We could put an agenda for the 4th and talk about what they want to do, and then maybe. Yeah, I could probably do that. OK. Yeah, I want to hear just to find out what's going on. Yeah. OK. There's people on the agenda. So just let them know. Is that the Waterbury angle? It's what they call themselves? Yeah. Wossy. Wossy. B-U-A-S-I, Wossy. Waterbury ambulance service information that I'm going to accomplish along with chance to see that. Our next meeting is August 23, from 1 to 2.30. Here, we've been talking about, if you remember, there were 50 sites identified in Moortown. Or actually, there are 54 total. And 43 have been completed by the crew, and there's 11 remaining. And so of those 11, we need to decide pretty much with five areas that are the most critical. So Martin, did you talk to Martin? I was going to. OK, good. OK. So if you have any input on that, if you have, Martin, you might be able to bring up it. You can start a new welcome to come, too. Is there a draft of that brand somewhere? Yeah. Yeah. We're going to be upset to eat already. Could you send it again? Yep. Martin, did you want to ask for a meeting? No, I'd like to look at it before the meeting. The important meeting was done on the 23rd from 1 to 3 August. Yes. And where will that be? Here. And that's Storm Martin, the council. Finance committee meeting, basically, just an organizational meeting. Becky is actually the chair. And so they have requested as much information we could supply on the budgetary process, and the budget, and where are all the funds that are now and so on. And so which we've shown in our self-recommended information, the rest of the committee. And we meet again on 29th here at 9 o'clock. And that's all I have. Anything else? OK. Well, that's a good job, John. You covered a lot of that. Well, you know, I'm going to get a gun here for the journey at 7.15, so we'll put that pretty out of this. So the department is here, so I got this. Oh. Steve. Yeah. Oh, they're going to be here in just a moment, yeah. Bring the chair. Well, this is Dan. Yeah. Can you guys sign it on that form? You want to give you more time to talk? Honestly, Steve has a lot of words. OK. Sit up. Everybody. Can you get your work off of the roll out of this? Come on, sit back here. Sure. How's it going, Steve? Yeah, they're real. So we need to talk about, later that, the budget and everything as you know, it's over. You're over. And certainly, as we've always said, we appreciate the service he gives to the town. But unfortunately, we do have budgets in her department. And we need to stick to the budgets. And so, pretty much going forward, if there's anything that you need, it's going to have to come out of your own funds. Absolutely. Now, this year, part where we went over budget so easily is we had on foreseen breakdown of the equipment and that, that didn't help us out. I mean, there was the whole gear thing, there was the gas spill. And we, you know, working through that, it can't all be foreseen, but we certainly have been trying to be as prudish as we can. All right. Who is the chief now? It's kind of a, he's the chief, I'm just dealing with the administrative stuff. I'm the acting chief, but we have our next election. That's how it happens. Right. Thanks. And Sean, you're the officer. Yes. So, when you say criminal breakdown, kind of, we had one of our pumps, most recently in blue, a metal line in the back of it. It's a 98 truck in this finally decided it was time to split the pipe, so it was leaking water out, so we couldn't keep the tank on the full blue part of that same truck. So that was another bill we didn't really foresee coming. And we did regular maintenance on them, which is what we budgeted for, so that pretty much brought us to our budget and then all the other breakdowns brought it completely over. Right. It might be, you know, with the age of some of the trucks, it might be a favor time from the budget season to have a little bit more reserve of the on-perceive. Right. You know, I think the slight work has always been pretty supportive of the fire department. Absolutely. I think it's just a matter of getting the budget and just if you can't budget, or you can't foresee it. Absolutely. Certainly, if we get it out there in the budget, we're all on the same page. Absolutely. Sam, a clutch replacement. We need to have that done. Yes, we are trying to loop that truck through until the new budget. What truck is that? It's our tanker truck. Tanker. And, you know... That's an E3? No, it's tanker one. Tanker one. We were told by Jordan and I can't remember his name. Glenn Johnson that it needs to be replaced. It could go... The next time we take it out it may not go until we get it fixed. So we've just been trying to not take it anywhere unless we need to for an emergency. You know, we're going to train some stuff. We're not taking that truck out and putting the extra wear and tear on it to try to get through. Is there an estimate on the repair for that? I don't know if you're right on the estimate. Is that what this is? Sorry about that. There's some repairs on E1 there on there. Are E1? There's repairs on three trucks, I think, on there. But the clutch is on your lower left-hand corner. Right. Okay. They did adjust the clutch. They adjusted the clutch, okay. To try to get it through. Okay. So everything else on here is loaded. What's itemized? Yeah. We don't need a price for repair. Absolutely. Yeah, I've been working with him to try to figure it out. We've been talking back and forth before it becomes time for budget numbers and the estimated cost of that so that we can try to budget that as well. Okay. Any idea how to talk to your head? 1,000, 2,000, 3,000? I would say... I would say closer to five because they've got to take it to their shop. They've got to pull motor transmission apart and it's an older truck so I don't know if things are going to come apart easy or not. But I would say that would be a ballpark. I could be... You could go behind them. For sure. So we're going to want to get at least three bits. Yeah. We're going to want to get J&B... Is that an international? Yes, it is. J&B and... Maybe Clark. Clarks and Johnson or... Yeah, absolutely. You don't need that for budget time but you will before you fix it. And this we've offered to Steve in the past. I was happy to help you with the books and everything. Absolutely. I understand that. I think we'll continue to look at it. I think he's going to be more beneficial to us is... I'm going to start a file at the fire station and then we know we have this much in the budget. We know we have these receipts for this month and that should take care of the wonder where and what we have left or what we don't have left or if we're over budget or not. And I understand that you are going to be here for more fast. That would be correct. Do the corn now. Do the corn? Yeah, we always get our corn from Nails and kind of work on the street. Because Clark's not angry this year. Plus the weather then, the barn collapse and just wouldn't really look so well. Then we come looking for a donation. I know we probably weren't willing to do it but with everything that's happened this year we thought we'd do better. So let's let it ride here and maybe next year come back. Would you consider doing something else? I mean, you know, it's such a big part of the entity that we really miss. The whole town would miss out on you guys there. And it will be there for the fireworks because we have a truck on scene. But as far as cooking stuff, probably not this year. But we have an idea to kind of have something there. There's been some discussion, some of the guys are interested in coming down was one of the trucks and kind of just having it having it opened up and willing to do it. Yeah, like if that's a truck kind of thing, you know, maybe people will come. Oh, what is this fire department doing? Kind of show them what the equipment is and kind of what it does. Kind of a show on television. Yeah. I think you want to show us your new gear. That's true as well. Absolutely. Although it doesn't necessarily look so new. We've used it a little bit. Well, that would be really good. Have we requested the same thing from our highway department? Do they come down with a truck or a piece of equipment that's hard to hear? That's a very good idea. Yeah, that's a good idea. They will be pies, right? They'll do the pie contest. Unless you want to do a pie contest. They seem to get to come back without costing a bunch of money. If that changes, I will certainly be here. I've heard that there's been a lot of volunteers and not giving your volunteers what you would have been. We certainly have been feeling the national pain of volunteer fire departments. Members come and they do what they can and life changes. I can't always help it. We have a small crew but a fairly decent crew right now. But we certainly have been doing a lot of ups and downs. We can always use it as more people. That's the problem. It takes us every single firefighter in the country. Warren, Whitsay, Haldiman. They must have been watery, there's outliers in every scenario. There's a lot more things that occupy young guys' time these days. There's all those drugs, whatever. There's a lot more distractions out there. Coming down every other Tuesday night and hanging out at the fire dorm isn't necessarily as cool as it used to be. So to speak. We've got some young guys and it's kind of a good and bad thing at the same time. It's good to have a couple other timers that have the experience. It can pass down their knowledge to the younger guys. But we need the younger guys there too to do the muscle work. We're always looking for more. We've actually been fortunate to have four or five guys. One negative ended up loading on five people. That means they had come to the three consecutive meetings we had and we both were on one night of five-inch faces. The experience varies. There were a couple guys that had been on arts previously and they're not living in the area. There's a few that are just fresh faces. Do you have just more town guys on your crew? Yeah, we've got some ducks. A couple guys who work at Whitsay. Whitsay only. But there doesn't have any department, do they? No. One of them has split coverage on that. Yeah. Yeah. We're doing better than some, but not as good as we could be, I don't think, but... Can they help you advertise it all somehow? Can you put it on your website? Maybe. We have our Facebook page and we post on. We can help you out for an hour. We've got a sign at the store. It's just what it is like. I just found a new way to mail things. Super, super cheap. The post office let me know about it. And it literally just goes to every single address. Every word right now. Have you used it before? That's not very expensive to send a card out, right? Have you guys done that before? Yeah, but not for the part of our department. I have a work, depending on where you send it. I mean, it's not printing everything. Yeah. The postage, it can be a little less sensitive. Yeah. Most of the time I get like that, it's got to tell someone it's like... Bill, Bill. It's something you can do. Do you have anything else you wanted to talk about? Um... So I've been doing a little bit more research from when we spoke last time about how a watery gets just over $100,000 from Dr. Gray for fire coverage and we get $3,000. It's an interesting concept because looking at the majority basis of their population, it's in our coverage area actually, versus water areas. They have a more spread out coverage area, but it's less people in the area we cover. So I found that a little bit interesting upon looking at it. And I'm going to be meeting with the select board of dept. where you come budget season because there's been some interest for them to talk to us and get numbers of what we've done for calls in dept. to figure out, you know, if the money is proper or needs to change a little bit. So it's just something that, you know, I've been looking at because it's a way for us to bring in a little bit more money to help with the budget and the fire department. Sure. Yeah. Sounds like they're receptive. Absolutely. That's good. And you're going to be working on per capita. So you have a standard to go by maybe instead of just a flat feed at what we've been getting probably years? That's actually a really good idea. I hadn't thought about that or what they knew, but that's a really good idea. Sure. Anything else? I don't think that's pretty well. Good. Oh, thanks for coming in. When did you actually work? The election of August 21st. We did that for an hour to make sure I warned everybody in the fire department properly that we have plenty of time to plan for the event. Well, I'll put it in there too. So you've been a chief for all the years? Yeah, I've been a chief for all the years. You look very well rested. I have to say. I've been a bit of this terrible thing. I've been a part of my life for more than a year. As chief, I was five years. And I've been doing it for 22. So I think it was time for a break. Step back and try to enjoy my free time. And you've made it pretty easy for us as far as me with the paperwork stuff. He pretty much already had me doing most of that stuff. But if I have any questions, it's not like he's done it. He's still answers his phone for me. So I can ask him this silly little question about this, that, and the other thing. So it's been a decent transition thus far. Yeah, good. You can always call me too if you have a question of something that you don't know for Steve. So I'm here for you if you need anything. And you've been doing a great job. Yeah, thanks for all of it. Cool. Thanks. Well, thank you. You're welcome. You have the welcome to stand. You've got no issues? They're online. Excellent. So you can do 7.15. What's that? So you can do 7.15. You're getting there. Here's all the papers. There's two different sets there. What copies do you want me to name? Two. What you're really sticking out is the response to motion to reopen an author at the top. Ask for Travis Wadgett. OK. For the board to sign and date. OK. So that's a move. Divide the motion to amend or alter because it's based on the fact that you no longer have jurisdiction to do so. And the second piece of paper from the answers to the questions raised by Montgomery Timber, Paul answered. And by signing back. I don't want your signature page. I think it's OK. OK. That's just a question. Anyone else want to? So let's see. The General Allegations Montgomery Timber Company at Plaintiff is a manager limited liability with offices and principal place of business in Springfield, Manchester. So that's admitted. Plaintiff owns property in the town of Moortown. Conveyed to Plaintiff by warranty due to a fair rate of late for band mail. Date of June 26, 2007. Number three, Defendant Town of Moortown here in the town. Municipal Corporation of Oregon County in the state of Vermont. Four, Defendants Council. Calvin and Nancy Blodger are residents of the town property in the town at 5659 Moortown Mountain Road. Defendant Travis Blodger is a resident owns property in town at 5711 Moortown Mountain Road. And Defendant Kathleen Scomitz is a resident of Eastmont Pillar with an address of 21514. And owns property in this town. Number five, Plaintiff sole access to Plaintiff property is a trail. This trail is depicted as legal trail 17 on exhibit A attached. In July 2016, Vermont, the general highway map of the town in very light of agency of transportation. And that was denied. Plaintiff has a historic access likely obtained by prescription to its property. The historic access was that part of the Travis's property. And anything else is omitted. And a nine, I'm surprised that something wasn't brought up on nine because it's really describing that historic crossing. It addresses that number 13. That's okay. It addresses that number five. That's five. It's a nine, Plaintiff. Okay, so it was number five. Okay. And 13, it says it's like we're decision reports to discontinue the trail as it leaves Moortown Mountain Road across Scott's Brook and extends to the Scomitz camp. So it's like we're decision reports on its face discontinue a portion of town trail number 17. As far as the cabin from town survey and then now the formula of Kathleen Scomitz. It's denied. It does not report it discontinues. Likewise, same thing 14. We have laid it out. And then 15 admitted as to facts of legal conclusions are undiversable. And that's pursuant to 19 DSA 740A. Plaintiff has appealed the select board decision. And in section 740A provides what a person owning their interest in the lands through which a highway is laid out, altered or resurveyed by select board members objects to the necessity of taking the land or is dissatisfied with laying out altering or resurveying of the highway or with the compensation for damages. He or she may appeal in accordance with Rule 74 of Vermont Rules of Civil Procedure to the pure court in the same county. 1617 and 18 that was denied. And that's because 16 said the plaintiff and his predecessor Claire Lake of Ban Mill since 1991 had used town trail 17 for logging purposes in general access which they had not. The post trail relocation is unusable for access to the plaintiff's property because of steepness of grade, lack of turning radius, necessity for installing bridge improvements in the town highway and safety issues. And that was denied. And then the discontinuance of town trail 17 as far as Columbus Camp will discontinue the plaintiff's sole means of access to the plaintiff's property resulting in the plaintiff retaining a private right of way over the portion of town trail number 17. Discontinuousness necessary for access to the plaintiff's property and that was denied. Under leave requested, the plaintiff requests the following relief that the court, the judge, and declare a selectable decision no-envoy for lack of jurisdiction that 19 VSA, 789 and 789 do not authorize the discontinuance of trails. And defendant opposes a claim that a town cannot discontinue a trail. And to court, the judge and declare the town trail 17 is a trail as defined a public right of way which is not a highway three rods in width. And that one is that the court That's number two, right? That's number two, right. That the court, the judge and declare the town trail number 17 is a trail as defined in 19 VSA 308. A public right of way which is not a highway three rods in width. So why would we oppose that? Three rod thing? I was, you know, I think of the three rod thing. Question now. Or, or, no, no, because, because I would imagine it's because they keep referring to town trail 17 as being with historic access. So that's probably why. Historic in their use of what they say but that's what they like referring to this. I mean they refer to the name and they keep referring to it as as where later went over. Not where people, not where the trail as found by. As found by Townsend. As found by Townsend in their use. No. No. The judge and declare the town trail number 17 is a trail as defined 19 VSA 301 which is not a highway. So, I get it. So the defendant, we are opposing that the judge claim that they Montgomery wants the judge to claim that trail 17 is a public right of way. Three rods in width. Got it? Yeah. Because where, because we're saying two rods is what the. We're saying two rods and that it's a trail and he wants to say that it's a public. Right of way. Right. Okay. No. As defined by the statute is not a public highway. It's a trail with no motorized vehicles. So he wants to be able to have motorized vehicles on it. Right, right. Okay. Follow that. Sort of. I guess. I would say. So. Those. What he's doing. You know. It's a lawyer talk to me. Right. Right. I can't, you know, do the all the research that he wants to know. He knows. What he wants to say. Right. What he's saying there is it's not a public highway. It's a trail with no motorized vehicles. Which basically is the ordinance that. They wanted you to pass in the beginning. Number three is alternatively if the court determines that the select were decision properly discontinued the segment of town trail number 17 as it leaves more town mountain road crosses Kitesbrook and extends the skomis camp or that the same route. Constitutes the town trail and court a judge and declare that plaintiff has a private right of way. Free rods and with over the segment of town trail number 17 discontinued for access to the plaintiff's property. And defend is not involved in the claim for private right of way over private property. And four by way of further alternatively if the court determines that plaintiff does a segment of town trail number 17 discontinued either as a legal trail or by such private right of way then the court and judge and declare that plaintiff has a prescriptive right to use such segment for access to plaintiff's property. Once again defend is not involved in any claim of prescription over private property. What that says is if he wants to claim he's asking the judge to claim that if the select plaintiff has a private right of way. Exactly. Right. Which is not something he should be doing in this fight. Five that defendants bludges in order to remove any of their improvements that approach on town trail 17 or any part allegedly discontinued or on any of the plaintiff's private right of way. Defendant approves consolidation of the appeal and the civil act. Improved of this. So this is doesn't have anything to do with the town. This is the bludges he named the town and the bludges. Right. Okay. So you're saying that that you're okay with the consolidation of the appeal and then their civil action against college. Okay. It's a way to look at it. Yep. Sounds good. And six that this matter be consolidated with plaintiff's appeal and defendant agrees that any relief, relief be just and equitable. So we combine six and seven now. What's that? He combined six. He combined five and six. Five and six. Yeah. All right. Okay. Not understand the motion. So I will I will move that we accept the answer prepared by Paul Gillis. Okay. Any more discussion on it? All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. And the one that we signed responds to motion to reopen or alter by motion dated July 13, 2018. Travis Blodger by council called the motion to alter or amend the decision made on June 18, 2018 by the select board. Hey, Jason. Thanks to Amanda. Walter is available and a highway hearing is an uncharted question as no statute authorizes this procedure but of such emotion were proper. It cannot be heard. Given the recent appeal of this matter by Montgomery Timber Company LLC, the select board no longer has jurisdiction of this matter. Consequently, it denies the motion to amend or alter. And who will you accept the average comments? Okay. Any discussion? That's what we're discussing right now. This was written by Paul? Yes. Does anyone know what your control of the question is? Yeah. What is your? That would be on the mylar that Townsend approved that the trail that's being discontinued is not on that mylar. And that is true. And Rob Townsend is providing an amended so in a sense, as soon as Montgomery filed the appeal to the court took all matters regarding that out of the jurisdiction of the select board. So that's what that paper says that the select board is denying this only for the fact that they don't have the jurisdiction to afford it. I was just asking for the meaning of the phrase uncharted question. I don't know what that means. Yes, everything you said, but I just don't know what that means. Anybody? Oh, something that's been done before. Well, we can look at this a long ago that this is from that makes something to say. That you go back on. Right, no statute authorizes this procedure but if such a motion were proper, it cannot be heard. That's a recent appeal. I would understand that if the county kind of had a choice. I just don't understand what people mean about that. But I think overall, it says what you said, but there is a term here I don't understand. And who does anyone else? I guess I just interpreted it as something to do with the question that has not been asked previously and then the procedure we couldn't find any record of it. That was reasonable. That's the way I read it. Any more discussion? All in favor, motion say aye. Aye. Aye. The old business could move on to something else. Yep, they go ahead. The old business thing. Yep. I was only reporting where we stood on this sidewalk. I thought we were going to have this help prevent the summer. I asked out travelers last week to have a report for tonight. We don't have that report. He was going to do that today, but they had someone injured in their business that was dealing with Westbrook. So we had to go there today. So the where it stands is Dr. Carl Sold with his property. Right. John and Pat are going to get together the week of the 20th and visit the new owners for an easement. But we told him he didn't have an easement before he sold it. We did not have an easement before he sold it. I have been pushing Yeah. I mean, I thought we had the easement today. Well, we did until the state came along and said as far as the catch basin go that we needed to have changed that catch basin over there. So that's just something new. When they were doing the plans that went into the state, the state said we need we need the easement to change that because we can't find one that we have in the state. And that was probably two weeks ago. Maybe not that long. No, I guess, sir. Doug is ready to go. As soon as that easement as soon as we have that easement I feel the state will have a permit a 11-11 permit from the state as soon as we have that easement. We have all the other easements. So it's highly unlikely it's going to be built this year. Probably not. Which is a pretty big disappointment to me. We worked hard on getting all those other easements. Yeah. It seems like nobody wants to get it done and keeps on... not us, but the engineering part of the state it just keeps on going backwards. Unfortunately so. But okay, that's the update. Okay. The town hall mold. I checked CBT contractions references and they were all wonderful. One person I spoke to so he built their whole house. It wasn't a small job. Then so we have the other thing is we have a bunch of the left-over cabinet faces because they're not going to be used. And when they're not going to be used and when they did all the cleaning everything got put into a big pile in the middle of the room and as I'm putting it all away a lot of it is junk that needs to be thrown away. There's an old bulletin board that's garbage. There's a bunch of random construction debris. There's old vents that have just been piling and piling up. So our dumpster doesn't take that kind of stuff. So I had a NGO recycling their local business come down and give me a price to take it all away. And for him to go in get out of the building and take it away would be $200. It would cost us I think more for the guys in their time with the truck and taking it to the dump. So I was asking for permission to have him do that. I'll make that motion. Don't we go out and have what was it? NGO recycling? NGO recycling remove the construction and other debris from the town hall for $300. $200? $200. Any discussion on that? All in favor? Is that aye? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. that you hear in case they have questions? So I have copies of the survey. I also have a time-wide. We have now developed a time-wide for some things to follow, but people like to see it come. Yeah, so I'm going to show you the one. It's nice. Oh, should we? Jason, you can go up into the hospital. That's their copy. Can I have a word about it? It's probably not. There's work to be done. Well, I already passed the deadline. We came up with the, we have a subcommittee that is the Community Outreach Committee. They came up with this particular survey, which is called the Ask Questionnaire. There is people who are associated with the library. Trustees, employees, volunteers, friends of the library have been asked to just take this out to the community, talk to people face to face, get the ideas about what they're thinking. It starts out with what you're going to do about more town and really how to make the library a more vibrant part of the town. And also gives us the chance to introduce the reasons it would be good to move into the town hall and not and reassure people that they won't be losing their town hall. So that's happening. And then we are going to, there we are right now, August 6th is elected board. August 13th, they're going to be developing an online survey, which is going to be more of a nuts and bolts kind of survey, like, would you like this? Do you want, you know, not as open-ended questions as the survey that we have here? So we're going to have two kinds of surveys going on, trying to get more information about community needs and wants. We're going to, in September, also identify resources and stakeholders from conversations, meet with some key groups. The select board, you are one of the stakeholders and I'll come back to that, but we would, Cory would like some time to meet with you all. By the end of September, we're hoping to have, maybe gather some, have some surveys at Morfest, be able to talk to people then, and then from Morfest until then in September, correlate the data. And in the beginning of October, we received a lovely gift. Cory went to a library, I don't know what conference, and there were some door prizes, and Waterbury won this prize to have library design come and do some consultation. But since they had just redone their library, they didn't need it, so they gave it to us. So they're going to come and talk to Cory and she's going to use the information we get from the surveys to talk about a vision and get some feedback from them. November, we are thinking that that's budget time. Which meeting is, where do you, is it like, do you usually have a second Monday of the month special meeting for budget? Not usually until they're ready to pack it up. So I'm going to be asking for budgets, probably by the 15th of October. October, oh yeah. Well it starts then, yeah. Okay, yeah, well that may change our plan. 15th of October, okay. That gives, and the reason for that is, it gives time for if people in the department want to come in and explain their budgets, you can do that in November, you know, okay. But then there is, isn't there like one meeting where the, or is there more than one meeting where the select board discusses the budget and finalizes that. Continuing the planning meeting, come to a portion here, a portion there, yeah. So then in January, we will be having some things in the town report, kind of describing our, our year as always, but also the progress and the plans for the future of this move. And then we had a lot of discussion we wanted to ask more about this. So we think that town meeting is a, is a day that we're shooting for something to happen. We aren't quite sure what your, you all are thinking is gonna happen on that day. So are you thinking we're gonna give a presentation about what our hopes and plans are and just get general feedback from town meeting or do you think there's gonna be a vote of some sort, an article that day that's voted on from before, an article that's on the ballot, would it be a yes or no, we should do this, would it be a budget line item? So we're just wondering what should we be planning for to happen on town meeting day? You're gonna have a budget, you're gonna have a budget and idea of a design? Yes. So I would love to see a design at town meeting as a presentation, yeah, to bring to the people. Well, as a possible design along with an open discussion. Yeah, open discussion, because of literature. Yeah, but open discussion with your input because you've put a lot of thought into this already, so. Right. Because, right. Nothing beyond that at this point. Well, I'm just thinking when I hear design we're gonna have to pay somebody for that design. No, but you gotta get it for now. Yeah, so that gives me my next vote for design. Black River is now giving us this, does that mean we're gonna go with Black River? It doesn't, we'll have to see what we hear. Yeah, that's what I would like to see, I would like to see more than just one architect, even though there, you know, nothing against Black River design do not work for them, but there are a lot of architects even though they're offering a free consultation. I don't think that commits us to them at that point. No, no. Yeah, that's fine, we can listen to them. I think that we're thinking that to a starting point. Yeah, okay, yeah, that's fine. At this point, we're just talking about a basis for discussion. Here's what this architect came up with. Here are some other thoughts. Yes. What does everybody think? Yeah, okay. And that's it. So we're not paying anybody to go do anything yet. This is fine. Right, right. So are we thinking that we might have two separate budgets, like one, just our general, usual yearly operating budget, and then one that would be possible move budgets? Or would we have all one? No, I think you have to keep these out. Okay, yeah, see we need this information to make up. Do what we need to do. Doesn't mean you can't combine them with in, but you'll want to spread it out. Break it out, yeah, yeah. Okay, before we, Jen, did you want to add anything to my explanation of the timeline? Oh no, I think that by, we kind of did this backwards design thinking where we were thinking, well, at Tom meeting, something what needs to happen ahead of time so that we would be prepared. So it sounds like being prepared with the design and the presentation, that design would have the input of the consultation in addition to two design lights, which would invite the community involvement. And the budget. I skipped that. I don't want to know a budget. And the budget as well. For the design, for this particular design. If your design, even if you have a different designer, your budget's not going to be that much different. Sure. The budget might be different by the cost of the bids that come in for the design company. And that's going to be part of your budget to hiring a designer if you have to. I think one of the things that would be very helpful would be to know the as is budget and not only the one time budget for making a change, but what the ongoing operating budget would be. Once we move. Yeah. Yeah. I said we have talked about it. We talked about that in broad terms, not too specific yet, but yes. And since we don't know exactly what we're doing yet, it's very hard to have an operating budget for it. And we understand that just, you know, think in those terms and come up with what we can. And then the idea would be the presentation and the open discussion at town meeting with the budget detail. Thank you. Yes. So I want to go back to one of the things I said in September it says identify resources and stakeholders. Cory would like you to think about maybe setting some time aside to meet with her, whether it's in here at a regular meeting or if it's a special meeting or maybe it's at the library or maybe it's at the town hall, that might be conducive. But she would really like to get it. And not in the law meeting, she said 15 to 20 minutes, but she would like to get an idea as the select board, as the primary stakeholders. What are your goals for the library? What are your goals for us moving? What are your goals? You know, why you have these goals? So she would just like to get some more information. It's going to be hard to get the goals so you've got some budget. Why would you think? Well, we didn't have a budget when the idea started. So maybe just talk about the idea itself. I'm okay with discussing goals before money and you may find out you can't afford your goals, which is one possible outcome. Well, that's a chance I take by talking about the goals before they happen. That's right. I mean, that's a chance that you're taking. And we did have the initial budget that you worked up. Yes, yes. Yes, we do have some. So if that's changed? No, not yet, that will change until we get our survey results back and the design date, but then we get some money. Right. So should... Also in September with the stakeholders, the Starcraft Society has been active in... They're on my list. Okay. I always have a test. So anyway, I just want to finish up that point about Corey wanting to meet. How would you think you would be the best way to do that, have a special time to meet with her, have her come to a regular meeting, have her come to a regular meeting? Yeah, I think that would be fine. Have her contact you, you contact her, or what? Why don't you have her send me an email? Okay. Requesting to come in probably the 17th of September. She wanted to do September. Okay. I want to put her on the agenda. Or would it be better to have her perform more of this? Does it really matter? I don't think so. We had September open for that. So we wanted to offer questions. This is going to be more of the same thing of getting results and working on designs based on needs and desires in the community. So the 17th would be a good day for that because that's only two days after work. Yeah, I think it's a good time. So, okay. So we have that meeting at the town hall. It's to, you know... You could always walk over if you wanted to, but they could meet at the town hall. Yeah, I heard. Yeah, and we'd have to meet at the town hall. Yeah, that would be nice. We could be right there, and if we, you know, we're all talking, I think it'd be a lot easier to... We could meet at the town hall. Yeah. I can be a question on the server. Yes. Or maybe a question for the server, just because I hate to look at marketing opportunities so much. Oh, can I? What do you think of adding a question about, but would you consider using the town hall facilities and see what people said? You mean the way they are now? Do we believe it now? Let's elaborate. What else along the lines could that question say? So how would you consider using the town hall? Yes. Or have you ever used the town hall would you consider using it again? That might tell you whether they have, and it might tell you what's missing. Yes, what use would you like to make a bit in the future? Yeah. Okay, good. That's great. That can also be... That'll be in the follow-up. Yeah, exactly. We've got more surveys coming, so it's not too late. So, let's have a look at this here. Excellent. As long as you're happy to talk to people, maybe you can get some business out of there. Okay, so I have a couple more items on my list I want to mention. Any more questions about the timeline or the survey before I move on? So our next question is, I would like to get a, I would like to make it clear that we've talked about, we're working on a title search for that building and the little bit of land that's on it. And it looks like from what I've heard so far, we should be able to sell it. I would like to know if this life board is committed to letting the library trustees keep, spend that money, whatever money could be possibly raised on the library improvements for the town hall. If we were going ahead and making plans and thinking we'd have some income and then you said, well, we'd like that to go into the general funds. That would be- But we need to know that. Yeah, we need to know that. So I wondered if we could just make it formal. Do you all agree? Do you not have enough thought about that? I didn't think we even had jurisdiction. I think that's your library's property. The library trustees property. Okay. Yeah, I think that's what I was going to say. It depends on how the need is, right? Yes. If it's deeded to the library trustees. It is. But I didn't know because we were now municipal if you would feel like that was going to change anything. So you are all committed to that. You don't feel like you- I don't see that the question comes up. Okay. If it happens, you're probably- I don't like that answer to the question. The library's committed to using the proceeds from the property to help pay for- Yes. Should we sell it? That's what we would definitely- Because we want something- We want something. Yes, we want something nice and functional that's going to be a great place for the town as a library. And there are many things that a library can be, but also we want to design it so that people can still use it and have their town hall. So yeah, so that would really help. Okay, excellent. That's the part I'm still waiting for, to see how that can be done. Yes. We're getting there. We're going to do our best. All right. We wondered, so we read that the kitchen was being redone. And we didn't know if, it sounds like maybe it's too late for us to have any, we were thinking if we were moving into that feeling, maybe we would be part of that conversation of what's that's going to be done in terms of the kitchen renovation. The kitchen is not something like that where you're done. There was mold issue. Right, well we knew that, but then aren't there, so there's not like any redesign going on in the kitchen to do it. I'll go back to you. I'll go back to you then. That answers that question. Thank you. So the kitchen is all right together now? No, the cabinets were three weeks out when you ordered them last week. Oh, okay. Yeah. The last thing I wanted to talk about, you brought up before John on the historical society. We have reached out to them. They have participated in the community outreach subcommittee. We have two subcommittees going now. We've got the community engagement. I said community outreach, really, it's called community engagement, and we've got the subcommittee of trustees that meet every other month. Well, we don't have a regular meeting to discuss the move. We could very well, don't we have a first? What do you want to share with us? It's for the hiring of the assistive committee. Yes, that's separate. So we have invited the historical society to our meetings and really reached out to them and invited them to come along to the town hall with us. They're still not, they're still somewhat lukewarm with that idea as far as I can tell. And we sort of feel like the library has been put in the middle of this between the historical society and the select board. It was the select board's idea for us to move and you contacted us, but nobody contacted the select board. And the historical society, although you're on it, right, right, you're part of it. So the plan was, as far as we understood it, for the town to save money by having homeless buildings. But if the historical society stays in there, that doesn't save any money. So we're just wondering, what are you all thinking about in terms of the historical society and maybe reaching out to them from the select board? Or maybe feel like you've already done that, I don't know. Right, well, I guess I don't know the exact answer. I think the historical society was hoping that they were gonna have that building if it moved. But I don't know if that was a select board intention that that building would stay if it moved. I don't think it was. I don't think that that's really a decision that we've made. And I think that there's an animation that we'll need before we can make that decision. Namely, what is the marketability of that building? I suspect we're gonna find out that we're not gonna be swimming in high-dollar offers for our building. I think the historical society is most concerned about maintaining the historical part of that building, the town hall perspective of it. You think that's more of a concern than possibly vacating the library? I think so. I think you're right. I would do that if you want to maintain that. Well, that's good for us to know in our planning. Because that was not the... I don't think that's been really on our radar. We've been more focused on them not wanting to leave the building that they're in now. I mean, there's concern that there is... What are they gonna do in there? All their stuff. And how is it gonna be displayed or kept in the town? Where is it? We haven't addressed that. Mm-hmm. How often do you meet? They... And I don't get to have a meeting. They meet at least once a month. Because of the curtains and things, right? The curtain is one thing. Roughly how much does that building cost a year? Anybody remember? Which one? The library. The coming library. How much? It heats very inexpensively. The hours are very inexpensive. So we're gonna hit that much, and there's not that much going on in the air. I'm thinking that if we'd want to retain some of that space for the historic society, and we're currently paying for storage in Wentzfield, that may be a way to save some costs. Would definitely be a way of saving some costs if the library trustees would approve that. Of course they would. That's what it's gonna need to know how much we sell for. It's worth the benefit of... The assumption there is we don't get good offers. I already have somebody tell me when you said, if you guys sell that, let me know, right? We all buy it. Wow. Now, but it would actually happen, you know, talk is cheap. But I said, I don't know who won. But when the area owner, you don't get out there, and she's like, I think this presents me. I think a lot of people would like that. Okay. Maybe we should put that on our timeline. The real estate exploration. But I guess what I'm wondering now to my original point is if maybe the historic society, select where it would like to reach out to the historic society a little bit. Right. Do you have a place? Sure. Okay, I'll be good. The covers here? Yeah, sir. Mm-hmm. You have a little list there, didn't you? I always have a list. That's me. Any more questions for us? No. Okay. All right, well, thank you. So, what are your next meetings? Our next regular meeting is August 13th. Is that right, John? I don't know. The community engagement, we're meeting tomorrow. The 7th is tomorrow. That's something. So the 7th committee. Okay, so the community engagement subcommittee tomorrow. Regular member of trustees meeting August 13th. At what time, we're at what time is that? That will be at the library from 7 to 8.30. You guys are late now. Well, I've actually just mentioned this. Like, maybe we can meet earlier because I'm often in bed at 8. So I'm going to start a little earlier. But at this time, as far as I know, it will be 7 to 8.30. That's because the library's close at that point, but in the old days, we used to, and anybody here who's never been here with all the trustees, we used to meet in the library when the library was open and if people came in, they would look for a book or they could join in the meeting. So, if I could talk to the needs and there's a historical society and get them to come to this meeting and try to find some common ground and goals, would that do anything? Or are you looking for to bring that historical society into this lifeboard next meeting? What do you, which way do you think we should be going with this? I would think that they would be at the next meeting or the next lifeboard meeting. I got the impression that they felt maybe that the step was skipped and not like the lifeboard spoke to us but didn't speak to them. I know. I know either, but let's just say. I'll do that. Yes, after the process started. When you say after the process started, after they were in here the last time? No, no. I mean after we started talking about the move. I think initially they felt that some decisions have been made without them, which I think they're now clear as not the case. Is that accurate? Yeah, I think that's correct enough. They, I think that they thought the project was going faster than what it really was that they were here and things were, that it was a definite thing that's gonna happen. In fact, we still don't even know what's gonna happen. Right? Yes. Yes, yes. And I'm saying their main concern is that there's not gonna be multi-use building. Right. Right. See, that's not the one concern. That's it. It's been a community building, community setting. And I think it's accurate to say that we're insisting on multi-use buildings. Are you speaking of current interactions with them or? I'm just saying that I feel like it seems like we're pushing, I felt like they felt like we are pushing them out. I feel like that's true. I feel like we were just trying to do what we were asked. What was best for the town? What was best for the library? But currently, are they still having these conversations? Since they've met with the Slack board? We had a... The last one was at the community engagement and it was just around what kinds of questions do you guys have? Yes, we haven't really had a discussion. So I think they were fine when they last moved to you. So maybe I'm just being over-sensitive, but... I just want to be sure. I'll give you a point to come up and get this. So if anybody wants to, if you want to come to our meeting, just let me know. I'll put it on the agenda. Yeah, I will. Beautiful. Oh, I think we're good. I'll let you know in a minute. All right. Okay. Okay, thank you. All right. Thanks for your time. Okay, come in. Let's see how many of you can come in here. Yeah, we're all in chairs, that's it. Oh, just two of you? Yeah, yeah. You know, just a little... Was that a little bit too much? I don't know, I'll go around for the first two minutes. I think there's a question about you. Yeah. Can I have a... Oh, sure. Yeah. I'll send it to you, it's fine. Back to, let's finish your business and we'll take care of it in a minute. So, a bow and mortar pair. Yes, they're in bad shape. I know, I've been meaning to bring that up for months that we need to do some of this. Bad shape. So, what do we want to do? Do we want to take them down, except for the one that's designated as a posting place on Crop Hill or do we want to fix them? The one on Jones Brook and the one on the Mountain Rover. Really terrible shape. The one at Crop Hill is not as bad because that one's kind of more out in the open, not in the trees. You can probably last for a couple more years. But the one on Jones Brook and the one on the Mountain Rover, something needs to be done or taken down. Any feel for whether they're used or... I don't think they're used, which is too bad. Yeah. We don't post anything on them. I post on Crop Hill in the store. Well, unless it's primary ballots or something like that. But as far as meeting agendas and stuff, we post them in the four places. That's designated, and that's it. I think it was a good idea at the time, but I don't think anyone uses it. Right. And now we have front porch form and so on, too. On the website. Yeah. So, I think that you'll be taken down. Yeah. So, anyway, we would know if someone uses them. I've never heard of anything. Well, we could put something on front porch form before we take them down. Well, that reaches the one group, that's reaching the people who are on front porch form. I think that's a good thing. I mean, only speaking about the one on Jones Brook or on that, I think the location is not good. I think if we had a board there where people could pull in right by the bank, you know. Ideally, it'd be on the other side of the road, the ruggle side, right before ruggles, if we could somehow work out something there, I think it'd be more use. Wouldn't you think so? You might use it friendly, possibly. It would be more use friendly. Well, it might work at the bus stop, too. What's that? Is there a bus stop there? Should come off Wardbroke, too? Is there a turnout for the bus stop? No. Are these our E-32 bus? No. E-32 bus turns around there. It's a hardwood bus turns around at Lynchville. At Lynchville. I would think we should take it down until it can find a better location, rather than they do it there. They're an eyesore right now. If someone mentions it or gives a call, then you can really think about that. But I don't think that's what I have. Right. I've got this. This board will be taken down on this date. If you need this board, please call the town office at. Or you can post something like that. Yeah, so if nobody notices, then... You can hold on. You can hold on for a little bit. Exactly. I'm going to play acts. And you'll want to do 13 or 25 under, just FYI. Yeah, yeah. Okay. More fast. So the PTO would like permission to have a beer tent at Morfest. It's a town event. So it would be under the town mor town. It would be our name on the application fee. They would pay for everything. They would incur all the costs and get all the benefits. We've hired a sheriff already for the event. And the main reason they're asking is, one, a lot of people have asked us to do one. And two, the PTO needs a really quick, big moneymaker. Normally they start the year. I'm on the PTO also. Normally we start the year with enough money to run all the programs to the whole year. And this year we have eight headlocks. So we don't have enough money to run. And this year's programs live a long time to make money for next year's programs. So that was why we were asking. And Morfest made, obviously, said, yes, and that we would ask the select board. The reason they're not doing it, we won't have our insurance in time to do it. Which is why we're asking for it to be under the town mor town's name instead of the PTOs. But the server has a liquor license. Yeah, the server has a liquor license. Just like in any bar, the bartender's responsible. All of us, I have to be DCL certified, which you do online and get certified. Same thing that happens for a wedding or something in the town hall. You know, the server, serving a liquor after wedding has to have a license. So the town has no liability? Yes, right. As long as the town has no liability. Cause I know that's a touchy thing. Like if you do a BYOB wedding and anything happens, you're right out for that song, whoever it is. So it would have to be a certified person. Yeah, the event is in town and mor town's name because it's a town event. But the PTO are the people serving it. They're the ones that will be certified to serve it. That is the town event, so our insurance covers it? Whether there's beer tent or not, it covers it. Can you talk to the mor town's committee or the committee's committee with it? Yeah, it has a mor town's committee. We're good with it. No, everyone actually was, Karen Sharples brought it up before I even told them about the PTO. So it's not just the PTO wanting to do it. So is it a controlled area? Yes, it has one. Yeah, that's my next question. If you say yes to this, I need to know if the road crew can come set up a snow fence for us. Yeah. And the sheriff will monitor the. Oh yeah, and we've hired the sheriff currently here, regardless if there's. So does any money from this go to Morfest? No, it's a PTO fundraiser. Which Morfest is fine. OK, so Morfest does not want some haircut on this to help fund Morfest? No. Everybody, guys, I mean, other people, historical society will do their own fundraiser at Morfest as well. It's the point of that. We don't want to pay for money. We raise money for ourselves. Just like if the fire department is on the corner and they won't take anything from them, you're there. I talked to Tom earlier. I think that's why he was trying to call you guys. Oh, is that right? Because to let you let the boy know that he was OK with it. Oh, OK. I think that's probably why he was trying to call you. Kia said that to me last week when I was talking to him. OK. So then you can approve that by signing it. That's the application the PTO will give me in effect to send in with us. It's just a general festival permit for the Department of Liquor. OK. And then is it OK to ask the road crew, even if they can just provide us with a snow fence, we can send it up. It'd be nice if they would send it up for us. Because it will sit on the backstop. So that will be one fence of it. And then it'll come around and have only one entrance and exit. They don't even know we're here anyway. It's doing help and setup and all this stuff, aren't they? Did they help set up some other stuff before? No. But, yeah, they don't have a problem with that. Hopefully they will be here with the truck. Yeah, I'm going to talk to them about that, too. You have something more exciting than just the truck. Yeah, the freighter, right? Do you have a motion on that, or is that OK? No. Yeah. I'm going to witness the signature. I mean, if you want to go on that. Why don't we make it official? Sure. Guys, do you want a road? Sure. I move that we approve the PTO's application for Festival Department. Second. Second. Any more discussion on it? All veterans say aye. Aye. OK. Thank you. Negative. Any other new business? Yeah, it's a fair. I was a fair. Oh, I know that, yeah. I just learned that. Yeah. Same day as September 2nd. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Saturday, that's right. So we're, I mean, we're going to have a beer time to ask, well, ours is more geared towards families. And I think a Saturday night, to me, a Saturday night at the Conbridge Fair doesn't screen family entertainment. So I don't know if I'm going to be able to see it. I don't think I'm going to be able to see it. Definitely, Ferrell's never been to the Conbridge Fair. Come on. Oh, my parents won't let me go when I was 50. 60 seconds. Well, one of the things that My parents were strict. I would be invited if I was in high school. One of the also, one of the new things Morfest is doing is a more town citizen of the year. So the select board will be invited to come to Morfest. Who's on that anyway? Mm-hmm. Yeah, we can't be dead. Oh, I know. You don't have to talk about it at that time. We'll still have the car show and all that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She had the charity house. It's actually going to be the Haskins Memorial car show. The gentleman that owns the telephone. So it'll be done. I think it's going to continue as well. Mm-hmm. Okay. No more new business? Oh, minutes. Minutes of the Y-16. I don't hear it. What? Oh, no, that's just... No. No, you're serious. No, you're serious. You're serious. No, no, there's two sets of minutes that I have to wait for. Yeah, one of them is a 8-3. Yeah, 8-3. No, it's a 7-7. There's 7-3 and 7-16. Right. Mm-hmm. Did you get the email letter sent on the 7-8? I did. But I don't have to be here to... No, you don't. No? I'm going to make a motion to go to the Y-7 to 7-16. One second. A discussion on those minutes? One favor to say aye. Aye. Aye. Okay. And July 30th. Same motion. All right. Sam, one second. Any more discussion? Yes, I've got some corrections to that. From the top, overruns is one word. Then in the section regarding the delinquent taxes, I wanted to change the wording there significantly. What I would like to have it say is Jason spoke about explicitly showing delinquent taxes in the tax rate formula, but the board chose not to do that period. The select board's report will explain the moving pieces that go into the tax rate, where I think I added, I was Tom Martin's suggestion, and that I was fine with it, so. Yeah. Yep. I think that's it. That's the way you presented it. So I think the way I emailed it to you was a little better than what I said over here. Okay. And finally, in the last paragraph, it is nominating clerks and treasurer, not treasurers. Yeah. Yeah, I saw that. Okay. Okay, so approve as amended. All right. And I second as amended. Okay. All in favor say aye. All right. Okay. So just for the record though, minutes are not verbatim. Right. Now the reason I made that question is I think the sense of it is. Well, I wrote it in my minutes that you wanted to add a number. I mean, you specifically said that. Yes, yes. So I mean, you're kind of just changing it to make it, I mean, you're not changing the meaning of it, Eddie. Adding a number is invigorous in this case because it may mean adding. That's what you said. Wait, wait, it may mean adding money to the tax rate. Okay. Which is definitely not. That's not even explained it. Correct. I think the one was definitely isn't what it says. Technically, it can't be changed because it wasn't said during the meeting. That's what I'm saying. It needs to reflect what's being said about the meeting, not what you remember to change it to afterwards. That is correct. I think though, this is still in a longer discussion. That's it. What's that? Or folks, okay, with that, this isn't the most important. Just for the future, yeah. I mean, just for the future, the minutes should reflect what was said at the meeting. Right. But you can add an addition. Like you did for Tom out of this because that was said at the meeting. Yeah, I agree. We should have been in there, but this has changed you what you said at the meeting to something you did at the meeting. I can't say my recollection is that accurate. I mean, I listen to it to make sure I didn't do it wrong. Okay. So I would say to make it right, why don't we add that for tonight's minutes? Okay. So in other words, not change the wording. Like you said, all the other changes, okay. Yeah. And as Jason mentioned tonight, that this is what you really meant for whatever. Yeah, that would be the one. That's what I was trying to say. Yeah. Thank you. Got it. It's no big deal. It's just the right thing to do. Yeah. Doesn't change that. Right. Just kind of defines. Okay. Anything else? Let's sign on that. What are you calling the invocation? Oh, a medium rocket. Nice. Yeah, beautiful. Is this your route? Mm-hmm, yeah. Black, you are needing her assistance. We're gonna meet them in Calvary. Yeah, spend the whole time with her. Have you been driving or bus or? No, we're flying from Montreal to Calvary and then we're going to the six national parks. That's an idea of an exception. Yeah. It's gonna be beautiful, that's good. My brother and I will be flying the main cruise. I'm gonna drive all the way back. Yeah. Yeah. It's two months, but it's normal. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yes, those people are buying this album, Jeremy. Oh, is that right? Yeah. Who was doing that? It's Calvary. GHR Enterprises in Bristol. It's also, by signing that, there's also a number of years you're getting that through the port. The normal is five. Five, okay. I'll sign that. I'm signing the contract that has been signed by Smith and Katrina. Errors and Emissions 2018 Grand List. They request approval make the following changes in 2018 Grand List under Errors and Emissions, total 32, section 4261. And the parcel owner's name, is it Ruti? Or is that supposed to be Rudy? Rudy. Rudy. Yeah. L. Palland and Jordan Donda, change in value from $0 to $100,000. Reason failed to enter data into Grand List. There needs to be a discussion on that soon if you are thinking about bringing it to the rest of the board of directors. Right. To do it. And is there any material we need or any proposal that we should? You would need an article to do away with the list. Right. But I think before we would do that, we would need to know more about the cost and services, et cetera. If, That's it. Yeah, I mean if you bring that before the board and they're interested in it, we can certainly get you that information. Okay. More about the cost of the board. Okay. Before the board is adjourned. Yeah. Okay. I'm kind of thinking whether or not I do-