 If Reality Check Radio enriches your day in life, support us to keep bringing you the content, voices, perspectives and the dose of reality you won't get anywhere else. Visit www.realitycheck.radio forward slash donate. Last time Banksy was on the show it was very, very popular heaps of comments so I'm going to catch up with him about what has been going on since we last spoke in November and what he thinks are the important issues that we should focus on for the future of our nation. Banksy is back and he's on the line now. Welcome back to the crunch, John Banks. We last spoke on the 9th of November just after the election and you were very abulliant back then about the coalition government and what we were going to get. Are you still happy with what you saw at the election? Happy is not an operative word that I would use in this confluence. Quietly confident, slightly optimistic, thinking it through carefully and hopeful are the three words that I would use. I went to Wellington on invitation from some of the young backbenchers and I listened to their maiden speeches for two days I spoke to the act party court and I listened to many maiden speeches. I let Wellington the following afternoon quietly pleased and relatively optimistic about the country's future but let's back up the bus whale. We had the worst administration in history ruling over us subjects like there was no tomorrow. These were bad people, this Ardern Labour government. Very bad people. I'll give you 150 billion reasons why they were bad people. The debt went, our overseas debt went from 50 billion to 165 billion in six years and we've got nothing to show for it. That's why I'm very angry about this last Labour government and I'm glad the people of New Zealand, the boiled frogs woke up to the fact before it was too late that their time had to be over for the sake of the future of the country. When I came out of Wellington after sitting in the parliament for the first time in ten years on the floor of the parliament listening intently to the maiden speeches from the act party and from the national party I came away optimistic, all in lower case please if you don't mind whale. But you must have been quite pleased because when you were the act party leader you were the one who brought in charter schools and those are back on the table now. Well they shouldn't just be back on the table, we should be opening the first charter school again the day after Easter in five days time because in Whangarei where we had a charter school where it was mostly young Maori boys who had failed, they had a 98% success rate in NCEA level one and down the road Whangarei boys high school with the same young Maori boys they had a 40% success rate. So charter schools work, these charter schools we had were working it was an act of sacrilege that the Labour party got rid of them and I can't wait to see them reopen. You've got a personal thing about charter schools too though don't you because one of your boys went to a charter school. Yes my boy Alex wasn't doing so well at a very prestigious school costing me $60,000 a year so not that it was a money-saving exercise but that was one of the upsides of taking him out of this prestigious school which is one of the worst schools in New Zealand by the way and putting him into and putting him into a charter school on the North Shore the military academy it turned him around he hopped fast and he went into the army and the rest is history it turned him around it's not for every one whale but there are so many kids failing the system that don't need to fail and I guess that's why you know the government we've got now is one that appears to celebrate success rather than have a pity party on failure. Well I'm pleased about that I need to tell you I quite like Lux I think Lux is doing okay he's doing okay it's a struggle for him every day but he's doing okay Mr Luxon is giving it his best shot and he's a good man from a good family with good values good principles concepts philosophies and he will do quite well if he lets himself be Lux be himself don't try and be Cam Wallace the failed chairman of Air New Zealand the useless fellow that ran media works don't try and be Sir John Key who was the ultimate street politician airport politician very very retail politics don't try and limit these people Lux needs to just be Lux and he will do very well that's one thing I've noticed with him is he appears rehearsed and contrived and it's not the natural person that he is and I always say this to politicians you know when they ask me for advice I said just be yourself don't try and be someone else and that's exactly what you're saying as well don't try and out John Key John Key you can't do it don't try and and and be all things to all people everyone becomes disappointed find your own self and portray that and portray your values and then they will not be a disconnect between what people are seeing and what they're hearing come across as a good man who cares he can easily come across a good man by standing beside his wife because she is a power of strength to him and she is you know a tribute to wives to mothers and to women and you know he just needs to reflect in her quiet glory get on with life be humble stay true to your principles true to your philosophy true to any concept you have about governance and the future of New Zealand tell it as it is and just get on with the job and speaking of getting on with the job I see that the media have in conjunction with their pals in the in the Labor Party and the Green Party have started a campaign to try and get rid of Nicola Willis before she's even delivered a budget promising tax cuts and you've got you know that sniveling little communist Simon Wilson at the Herald going on about we need to have you know more taxes all of these left-wing media people and and the Labor Party think that the answer is more taxes and they really don't want tax cuts and so they're trying to you know Bryce Edwards even put out a thing yesterday saying that Nicola Willis should resign because she hasn't delivered tax cuts well she hasn't even had the budget yet so you know the government's got it up against them haven't they with the media and these sniveling little lefties let's get some perspective about this who gives a shit what Simon Wilson has got to say who cares less what Brian Wilkinson or what is his name is Bryce Jones Bryce Edwards Bryce Edwards who gives that mind time sensible people like us and your listeners don't give it mind time we don't read the crap narrated in the New Zealand Herald every day one we can't afford to buy the Herald I certainly can't and secondly why would I why would I convolute my mind and my way of life and my healthy well-being by reading shit like that every morning oh exactly I'm always staggered that there seems to be a very very large number of budgerigar fanciers that buy the Herald to line the the the cage of their budgies I mean I can't see any other reason why you want to admit I mean it's not very absorbent it's okay for budgies you wouldn't want to put it in a in a kitty litter tray to line the bottom of that it would just you know go right through so I'm staggered that there's so many budgie fanciers out there that want to buy the Herald well just a minute well I'm an animal rights activist and have been all of my life and this is insulting and demeaning to animals so let's move on now coming back to the green I sat in the parliament next to Jerry and I was sitting in the seat where former MPs could sit and I was watching from the left-hand side of the parliament across the parliament to the maiden speeches of the act members and national members I looked down the rows of the Labour Party benches and the Green Party benches and I've never seen so many losers and so many dropkicks assembled in one place at one time it was awful so well I don't give mine time to what thieves formerly members of the Labour Party have to say as they rob stores around town or grandstanding MPs that represent me in parliament local MPs that are irrelevant so I don't I don't deal in the politics of a relevancy but I want to come back to something that's on the horizon hasn't yet been eliminated like Hamas the terrorist group in Gaza they need to be eliminated the the the Green Party in terms of what they stand for and what they stand against in the algorithm of the future of this country are irrelevant are irrelevant and we mustn't give them mine time so I was very happy to see media works go broke very happy I think most of the country did you know when that news broke um you know I think it was about 11 o'clock on a on a Wednesday I was on a ferry to Waiheke catching some public transport for once in my life and everybody was looking at their phones and there was this buzz of excitement you know at the at the premise that news hub was going to cease to be indoctrinating us on on our TV screens and everyone was thinking well why are they waiting till June can't they just go now well the day they hired that Cam Wallace formerly a steward for Air New Zealand as boss of media works was the day that the final nails will be put into the coffin of that media company now it's not to say that some of the people there were good people some in the minority some were good people most were woke weak pathetic puppets of the bosses that's what they were and they were singing from the song left Marxist song sheet in tune together on message in volume every day so I'm glad that they have been gone they have been eliminated and they're out of the algorithm and so I don't mind a responsible a responsible fourth estate but I can't stand these highest platitudinal deuces that parade themselves as unbiased and pebble their marxist crap every day of the week and funded by me funded by me a hardworking taxpayers funded by your listeners hardworking taxpayers going about their business today the fourth estate substantially in New Zealand has been funded by the taxpayers and the taxpayers have had a bad bad deal and we've had enough and that's the thing isn't it like when we saw during the pandemic we didn't get any critical questioning of government decisions we got a rara team applauding everything Ardern did as she trampled on our rights and and our privileges as Kiwis you know locking citizens out of the country locking healthy people up in their houses you know and then we saw of course the dreadful way that they crushed the protest in Wellington and the media were all there cheering on the government as they did that I mean if it was a if it was a centre-right government they wouldn't have been marching the streets with the people opposing the government but no because it was Ardern they were cheering her on well I don't want to spend too much time talking about her it really lowers my self-esteem and I could get the file after this interview with you that I can't actually drive my car I just feel so sorry and so I'm not going to do that I don't want to go into about her I sat next to her in Parliament for three years about six feet away from her I never saw her speak once I never saw her ask a question once I didn't see her in Parliament more than a couple of times or once and then she became Prime Minister of the world she's now got a knighthood she's Lady Ardern and she's vanished into the ether which is good which is good so we've moved on we have a national at New Zealand First Coalition government I want Lux let's Luxon the Prime Minister to do well I want David Seymour to do extraordinary well and I want Winston Peters to excel because I care about this country and this country needs turning around which brings me to a substantive statement while yeah it's not a matter of the policies you may or may not have that you may or may not want to introduce or you may or may not be thinking about for the forthcoming budget it's about slowing down stopping and turning around the civil service that's going to be the challenge the civil service is still operating with immunity it's still on fast track in the direction of oblivion there seems to be no change in thinking at the top of the civil service that's why the top of the civil service needs rooting out including the police commissioner and the big bosses of the government department all overpaid and mostly land supporters see I you know think that when you take over you know running the government you have a change of government that we should do something similar to what happens in the United States where all of the heads of departments or people who are responsible like the secretary of the treasury or whatever are appointed by the incoming government and the old ones are you know gassed and given given the don't come monday card and I would have thought you know that what the government should have done is said look guys you might have got used to you know spending hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions of dollars on diversity equity and inclusion type policies well we're going to cancel all of that if you don't like that where you can get cancelled as well but just just to give you an example of what's going to happen if you don't play ball with what the new direction of the government is you you and you you're all fired see you later and and then that would just sharpen the focus of their concentration on doing the job they're supposed to be doing instead of all this womble stuff and woke stuff that they're doing they're spending millions of dollars on changing signs and renaming things and all sorts of stuff like that you know it's just ridiculous that they think they can sit there and wait out this government so they can get their chosen government back in again the best thing to do is exactly what you said root them out get rid of the the near do wells and and downsize the civil service back to what it was before labor got in well let me give you two for instance wow for your listeners hundreds of thousands of people that are hanging off of every word this morning give me two i'll give you two for instances goth chill goth who went to parliament the same day as me in 1981 the worst mayor of Auckland we've ever had including Bruce Hubbard even worse than Len Brown oh Len Brown technically technically uh as mayor got things done uh so i've got no critical criticism of there what he did in the natty factor room and how he left the curtains is not my business but technically he was quite good Bill goth Auckland bet Auckland city wider Auckland Auckland council bet from 4.9 billion to 9.9 billion it's 5 billion in six years he was in office he was promoted to the high commissioner in london and he's still still sitting in belgrade here hobgobbing it with royalty and everyone else funded by and paid for by this national party coalition government why hasn't he been given a back of the aeroplane ticket home to new zealand where he can go and milk his goats on his goat farm at south Auckland in manuree well why doesn't they do that the next one the next mallard should do the same oh absolutely mallard was the worst speaker in new zealand's history and that takes a lot of doing it takes a lot of beating after beat jerry wall and he was pretty bad and you were there when jerry wall was a speaker i was i was jerry wall was at least a decent human person yeah wall was a good man notwithstanding his foibles and his speakership but anyway he's still over there hobgobbing it with the new prime minister of ireland and living the life of o'reilly and he should be put on a plane and bought back why are we leaving these people over there in these hobgob positions when they don't think like us they don't work like us they don't have beliefs like us and they're against us well winston's the foreign minister and i imagine he's working very quickly to find replacements and to give them that exact message because i know for a fact that winston peters does not like politicians becoming high commissioners or ambassadors he believes that is a job for professional diplomats and not for you know journeyman politicians who are getting a reward for ending their you know less than average political parliamentary career the polly and said didn't he words don't even move the leaves in the trees asked me my sword but winston this morning should send a message to gulf and to mallard you're on the london he throw flight in new zealand flight number one out to los angeles tonight and you'll be back in new zealand for easter yeah i agree totally especially with you see you see you see whale these are the kind of resolute decisions that i want to see made i am totally supportive of luxe of seymour and of winston i want them to excel for the future of this country not for me my future is well past but for my kids your kids and their kids i want them to do really well but we've actually got to get some runs on the board we've got to make progress there's nothing that will increase luxe's profile publicly and support out there amongst the chattering classes than to get runs on the board say to government departments no more of this marification get on with representing us as equal new zealanders all together and one going forward as one that's what they should do and they should repeat these messages in volume over time you cannot repeat serious messages enough and hear me doing it you repeat important messages and statements loud in volume over time continually and so we'll buggy that message out because i see new zealand at the moment still in a state of flux yeah there's a lot of bubbles in the air these balls as they come down for the government need to be well managed and we need to be well focused but i repeat what i said uh in case your listeners have just tuned in as they get back from countdown supermarkets into their cars and turn on their wireless i repeat what i said we've got to slow down stop and turn around the civil service before we'll see real progress the civil service is actually a drag on the economy and the economy is what is going to make new zealand prosperous uh it was going to make people's lives better it's what lifts people out of poverty welfare never lifts people out of poverty it keeps them in poverty um and so you know we need to have a government that's actually focused on the economy and i noticed that grant robertson in his valet victory speech uh mentioned that um if he had his time over again he would have borrowed more is this guy a moron or or does he think that money grows on trees let me stop you there grant robertson told us six years ago that we were going to have government spending within 30 percent of GDP if we had a kept government spending within 30 percent of GDP for the last six years instead of having an internal debt of nine billion we would today have a surplus of five billion yeah so let's get that up on the record well that is where we come but i want to come back to some other geopolitical things that are really worrying me if i can't seek leave to do that well yeah go for it that is the middle east and ukraine let's start with ukraine i'm seriously worried about ukraine i'm a student of that war that senseless needless hopeless ruthless worthless war yep and i understand it uh as you know the battle lines are 1500 kilometers long that's the front line 1500 kilometers from north kate to the brunt yep that's the battle lines uh the ukranians now all the tanks have just about gone and they're sitting in trenches with kalassia cloth guns yep and hand grenades uh which uh which are shared around uh and uh you only get a certain number each day i am seriously worried about the future of europe vis-a-vis the russian ukraine war as of today going into easter the day after the special day in the life of jesus i'm seriously worried i'm seriously worried uh about that i cannot see a victory for ukraine which defaults to i cannot see a victory for europe which defaults to i cannot see a victory for the united states which defaults to i cannot see a victory for new zealand in this russian ukraine war i'm very worried about it so i want to park that for a sec that's going to affect us economically economically and this country is absolutely flat but i want to now come to the middle east in october the seventh last year when a massacre took place of a president uh i haven't got words to describe it that what i what i can how i can describe it is i can talk to you about the retaliation that's needed today i'm a supporter of net nyahu i'm a supporter of this i'm a supporter of their sovereignty and i'm a supporter of them having out their right to live in peace for the rest of time and if they don't take on the hamas criminals in the tunnels under rafa today tomorrow or the latest after eastern next week then it's going to be all over because the pressure of the world will bear upon them they'll have to retreat and these criminals will take over israel at a time yet to be judged it's going to happen these people have got to be eliminated this hamas crowd have got to be eliminated and i've got a message for the palestinian supporters i don't have anything against a good human person wherever they come from yeah these people that are synthesizers these people that live and work and presumably pay taxes in a tearoah new zealand if they don't like our policies our foreign policy and our support of israel they should off back where they came from yep that's fairly blunt um but you know i tend to agree with you on that uh banksy because that's the thing right they've they've got a right to freedom of speech by living in new zealand they can march down the street and chant whatever they're like but uh they can't accuse israel of genocide when they're chanting genocidal chance themselves and let's be perfectly honest here the the chant from the river to the sea means the death of every jew between the jordan river and the mediterranean sea that's what it means exactly if you look at the history of all the countries around israel right if you look at lebanon how many jews live in lebanon none how many jews live in syria none how many jews live in jordan none how many jews live in egypt about a hundred how many jews live in saudi arabia about a hundred right so if that if from the river to the sea they want to cleanse uh israel of jews that is genocidal and that is a chant and it is it is what hamas believes in we we need to nail this file this morning that kind of rhetoric that narrative that language has no place in this modern society of new zealand and it should be stamped out and we don't hear it being stamped out the elimination of the jews that's what the chant is and it's wrong it is so wrong and we should say it's wrong and if these people don't like new zealand because of our foreign policy fold your tents have your bags get them angry get on the plane and i'm sure we can get the government to help fund your airfare back to where you came from that's the thing that i'm staggered about with people who come from you know countries that aren't democratic where there is no right to the freedom of speech there is no basically no human rights uh especially for women especially for gay people especially for for anybody who doesn't fit the the monotheistic rules of islam there's none of that but they come here and uh and then they want to change new zealand to be like where they came from and nobody says anything we go on and we've got to accept that because we're a multicultural society and uh and we're going to be polite and i actually believe that new zealand needs to have a uh what i call a f i f o policy um when it comes to immigration that is fit in or f off please please don't get me on immigration that's another subject 137 000 new arrivals last year most of them uneducated most of them unwanted all doing jobs that new zealanders should be able to could be able to easily do and costing the country a fortune so don't get me onto that but i'll tell you what i want to put up the mask that people don't know wars are about money if russia had as poor amount of money as ukraine russia wouldn't be fighting today ukraine wouldn't be at war if ukraine had no money a mask wouldn't be fighting israel if her mask had no money let me tell you where the money is iran 225 225 billion us dollars in cash which gave them which which biden gave them well well we know that iraq another simplifies for these people 265 billion us dollars in cash her mask are cashed up is relevant her mask are ukraine isn't russia is it's about money while and if the money runs out then the war stops and defeat is absolutely around the corner so we have to be careful so we've got we've got fighting in the middle east which is affecting trade and the well-being and stability of the globe we've got fighting in ukraine i thought step in europe which i can't see a winner and we don't have the kind of leadership we need i say you know we should really ramp up the arming of the ukrainians and get stuck in and fight like we need to fight and fight like we need to win we should really ramp up israel and get them ready to go and they should go into raffa at least at the latest after after easter and they need to take out these criminals because if not now when it's not now when well are we going to stop the criminals in hamas in the trenches in the southern gaza from doing what they're doing they will come back and rate torture killer murder young kids and elderly people in the future sometime soon yeah i mean you know blinkin is saying to net and yahoo and so is uh you know bite and i don't go into raffa or else net and yahoo saying sorry you don't get to dictate how we fight a war uh if we need to go into raffa we'll go into raffa now i've got a lot of contacts in israel and uh october the seventh was a sea change it was a step change away from the way israel's previously dealt with things um you know in 2014 i was in israel and i was getting rocketed and everything out of gaza you know when i visited sterot and uh and some of those uh you know kibbutzes like bere and and those places that were were invaded by hamas on october the seventh i've been there to those places i've seen you know i was sitting there watching the videos that were coming out and and i had i sat through a 45 minute you know um presentation of the videos that were taken off the hamas terrorists and uh it was appalling it was galling i was speechless for hours uh after watching the most appalling crimes against humanity and um you know i sit there and i think and i've been talking to these people in israel and they're saying now we're not going to think that we're just gonna you know put a fence around uh and stop them coming and we need to actually sort this out so it never happens again and that's why the catch cry is never again is right now and there is a change in the israeli mindset they are not going to tolerate this anymore and they're going to remove hamas as the government of of gaza they're going to assist in the rebuild of gaza and they're going to ensure that there is a a government put in place in that area that is not uh indoctrinating uh the citizens is not uh hijacking united nations organizations like unrah and uh they've systematically got all the information all the data on unrah and all of the the things that they've been doing in the schools and the health system and everything and they're going to make sure it doesn't happen again and and they don't care what the united states thinks and they don't care what the uk thinks they they care about their people well let's move it from that side of the world to this side of the world two questions well yeah why is it that there are no other countries around gaza that want to take these nice people why why the egyptians have got you know this is the thing that we saw douglas murray last week in an interview with the bbc and the bbc interviewer was saying i know israel has a fence around gaza and they're not letting aid in and he said to him well there's another country that has a fence around gaza as well it's egypt how come you don't mention them and egypt's fence is actually more intimidating than what the israelis had but nobody ever mentions uh egypt they've got uh several tank battalions and troop battalions on the border of gaza in egypt making sure no palestinians come into egypt but nobody says anything about that well i wonder in this valuable time that we've got less today we could turn our attention to the war at home yeah the war at home we do have a war we have a war at home and i want to start with the war on our traditional faith our beliefs our spirituality our values and the morality of new zealand incorporated which is under stress uh at war within itself and losing and losing we now live well in case you don't know in a post christian evenistic society where anything goes where there are no values there are no principles there's no right there's no wrong there is them and there is us and we are losing and we are divided and we are broke and we're losing our sovereignty that's the war we need to fight at home well you understand i know i totally understand i mean you you know you and i grew up you're a little bit older than me obviously but we grew up in a society where we had a true egalitarian new zealand society where jack was as good as his master and you know we had equality of opportunity in new zealand and people could work hard and get ahead they could buy a house they could do all these things well systematically over over the last 30 or 40 years and i think it goes on you know maybe a bit longer than that systematically those values have been eroded we've got a the bizarre situation where we have government organizations that are you know taking political positions on things that shouldn't matter to them like for example whether or not arthur can decide to call himself martha and we should go along with the delusion that that arthur is martha you know back in your day back in my day we'd say i'd be stupid arthur you know but now we're told that we that that men can compete in women's competitions in sport and that's okay well it's not okay there's a reason for for having men and women's sports and just because some bloke wears a frock and decides to call himself a girl's name doesn't make him a woman you see the moral fabric of the country has disintegrated we have no direction driven by values and principles doing the right thing and doing things right we don't even teach it in the schools whale we can't we can't go back i mean i would think that 70 percent of new zealanders would not understand the real significance day by day of ester they wouldn't know what yesterday was on the christian calendar and they wouldn't care because we've now changed the kaleidoscope of new zealand's egalitarian society where there's them and us then hate us and hate us hate them and it's divided and on race lines in particular but on faith lines more particular where you and i are living in this post christian society in the minority and you do as you're told and shut up yeah but it's by design this is what what i used to call creeping social creeping socialism right this is this is by design it is a tactic that has been used over and over and over again of dividing society into silos patting one silo against the next silo it's convenient because it keeps the masses disheartened and dispirited and then they can't unite for a common goal and and we see the polarization particularly in politics where everything the labor party says is good and everything the national party says is bad or vice versa the national party is just as bad as the as the labor party when it comes to things like that but the left have a resolve they have a drive to control society that the right doesn't have or even the center doesn't have especially in the center where there's a prevailing attitude of of that we should go along to get along and that is ankle tapping our society it's ankle tapping our future and it's giving in to the under the guise of diversity to a mono culture where everyone has to agree with what the state says and this is why we see a prevalence of the state stepping into our society we saw that during the pandemic we saw the government uh you know telling healthy people to stay at home we we told uh we were told um you know that you couldn't go to a restaurant unless you had a pass uh you we were told that um the unvaccinated were horrible people and they should be discriminated against and then when you layer on the the racism and of of uh you know Maori versus the rest layer that on top of it you've got divisions in society where people are fighting each other and all the politicians and those in control and the elites are rubbing their hands with glee saying yes it's worked well let me leave you with this well as i go out and earn some money and pay some tax so that other people can live in a style that i'd like to become accustomed let me leave you with this thought um people often say to me oh john we we did you you get your energy from and why did you do this and how did you do that and whatever success you may have had how do you attribute that and what happened to you i just want to say and leave you with one thing well to think about firstly thank god for the salvation army if it wasn't for the salvation army that would pick me up on a sunday morning and drive me 16 miles to sunday school provide us with jelly after sunday school and then drive us 16 miles back to where we lived yeah and taught us the between right and wrong and good and bad and evil and righteousness and doing the right thing and doing things right i wouldn't be where i am today so thank god for sunday school you're not going to hear this from any of your other interviewees in the short time what thank god for sunday school i'll start again thank god for sunday school in a christian church with a faith that belongs to the salvation army that taught me there every sunday as a kid that's what i say and i know it's happening and i know it's old fashioned and i know that there could be a charge of treason or something else that could be laid against me in this post christian time in this hedonistic country living that you know we're going to get back to some very simple faith based principles of how we should live and where we want to take the future i agree with you you know i i've been through some challenges in the past you know a couple of years or few years you know with a stroke and and all sorts of other things and now every morning i wake up and i thank god that he's in my life makes a huge difference uh to how i can cope with the challenges ahead and how i've coped with the challenges in the past and i'm never going to resile from that i'm never going to resile from my faith about uh what i believe and um and i'll use every opportunity i can to tell people what the good news is and you know easter is a perfect time for that and you know this show is uh you know tomorrow morning people are going to be you know waking up on good friday and and as you say they're most new zealanders won't even know what good friday is but i do and you do and that's what's important and and we tell people what that means and we tell people what easter sunday means so um you know i i still have hope for new zealand i have uh a whole lot of you know energy to see new zealand become a better place i'm totally opposed to polarization and and division and all of those things i learned the evils of that the hard way and uh and and you know people like you and people like me can can make a difference as long as we keep talking as soon as we go quiet they win well well i leave you on this note i salute you you are the son of a king and uh you are living in the kingdom and you're grateful you're blessed and uh i just think about some of the great things that have happened to me in my life and i'm very very grateful and uh one of them is knowing you and your family and we're thinking of your father uh at this difficult time for him and his life but uh hey uh we're not fearful of the future talk soon well all right thank you very much banksy appreciated you coming on the crunch again banksy is a great mate and he's like watching speedway you know there's going to be crashes but you don't know when and with him you know that he's going to say something but you don't know what he's going to say and i love having him on the show love him or loathe him you're never going to die wondering what 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