 Hello everybody and welcome to this week's Everton show. We're at Goodison Park where Everton have just been beaten in the Europa League by Olympic Lyonnais. You can probably still hear their supporters in the background still making a lot of noise long after the final whistle has gone. Graeme Stewart had a totally disappointing result, but more positives to take from the performance than we've had recently. Yeah, I would agree with that Darren. I mean obviously the foremost thing is the fact that we've been beaten again and now we make our lives very, very difficult in terms of trying to qualify from the group. We're going to pretty much have to win next three games. So that's the downside. The plus side is I thought we had a bit more spirit about us. The lads no doubt tried. They did put the effort in, they put a shift in, but ultimately we've lost again and there was key moments in the game. I think the big moment in the game is Guilfee hitting the post when it's one-one. That totally changes the game, but it wasn't to be. A terrific start to the game, wasn't it? It was a difficult start to the game. Yeah, I mean Mason's made a rash tackle. We're one-nil down, backs against them all again. At one-one when Sigurdsson hits the post, if that goes in or Michael King gets a touch, I'm thinking there's only one winner here. Yeah, I agree. As I said, that's the key moment in the whole game. You know, and then we shoot ourselves in the foot, give possession away on the halfway line, they break away and score, and all of a sudden a goodison part that was alive and kicking is silent again and that's the downside of the game. More to come from Graeme Stewart in this week's Everton show, but let's get some reaction now from the defeat that leaves Everton with an awful lot to do in Group E of the Europa League. You know, it's frustrating now. I think probably everyone involved is going home frustrated. I know I am and the lads. You know, but when we sit down and we analyse it and we move on, we can't stay down about this for too long, so we've got a game in a few days and we'll be in the morning and we'll do our analysis on this game and we'll recover and I do think there are positives to take from this game, especially the way we fought as a team all together right to the end. From last season, we scored a winner against Arsenal. Our first in tough form and that seemed to turn the season. Could happen again. It would be nice on that, but they're a good team, it's a difficult game. As you say, it's kind of similar to the way things were last season. Obviously we take the same result and as I say, we'll recover from this game as quick as we can and we'll come back to Goodison on Sunday positive and try and win that game as well. That fight against Arsenal and the Goodison crowd behind you, it's a big game and it can change the season kind of. As I say, it was similar last season and I felt like that did turn the season a little bit for us and we know that one of these times we keep that kind of mentality and work rate and effort. Something will drop for us and you're hoping that that will turn your season and the good thing is we can get over this game because we've got another game so quickly so we can't dwell on this and we'll move on. Hopefully, as I say, the same result would be nice. When actually William scores his equaliser, there's a pulsating atmosphere here at Goodison Park. It was a real Everton-European night, wasn't it, for a while? It was there and I'm glad some of the players that perhaps haven't experienced Goodison Park like that have now seen what it can be like and how much of a pull that the fans can be. They really do get behind the team if they can see the spirit and the desire is there. Obviously it's on the back of a pretty unsavory incident involving actually Williams and the goalkeeper and what have you and we don't condone that but it just does show that if there's a few tackles flying around and there's a little bit of incident, the fans are right behind you. We don't mind a bit of bargy-bargy, do we? As long as there's no red cards involved. You know, as I say, it's an unsavory incident that's no doubt going to have repercussions for the club which is we don't want to see but they like a little bit of blood and thunder to fans. That's the reality of it and let's be honest about it. We've needed to see a little bit more spirit from the boys over the last few weeks. Ronald Cooman gave Ashley Williams the captain's arm but then I thought he led by example on the night. Yeah, I mean, Ashley was fine. I mean, I'm delighted for him that he scored the goal because that'll give him a lift and what have you and then he was in the forefront of all the action that preceded all that. So I mean, it's a shame that he's lost as a captain on the night but ultimately there's a few more positives than there has been to take from this game. It was certainly better, wasn't it? Well, let's shift away from Europe now and into India. Have a look at this piece of film it's when Graham Stewart went to Bangalore for the Premier League live event. I mean, that looked a lot of fun but I'm sure you're gonna tell me it was hard work over there. Of course I am, yeah, it was hard graft out there. I mean, no, it was terrific. I've had the experience of going out to Mumbai a couple of years ago so I knew India was a great place to go and a great place to take the Premier League and showcase it because that's what the Premier League want us to do and there are a number of clubs out there representing the Premier League and we were one of them and I think it's important as a football club that we back the Premier League. You look at what the Premier League's done for us as a football club for the whole of the premiership and the riches that it's brought to us so the least we can do is support them. Do you have a few familiar faces on that piece of film there? Yeah, there was a good few. I mean, it's always great. You know, you meet up with a set of lads that you probably haven't seen for at least a year or so and it was good to catch up with the likes of Alan Shearer, Paul Dickoff, I've always got on great with. Jerry Taggart's a terrific guy. You know, John Barnes was out there obviously for Liverpool so there was representation from the two Merseyside clubs and you know, we all got together and we all put a shift in for the Premier League. You know, going out there, coaching the kids out there. Plenty of interviews for the Indian press and just basically showcasing because they are so keen for Premier League football out there. There's such an appetite for the game out in India and you know, they really did enjoy the weekend. It's still somewhere behind cricket, isn't it, in India football, but it's making ground. It is making ground. I mean, obviously, I mean, it stands to reason. Cricket is their number one sport and you know, you get with the likes of Tendulkar, he's a national hero for them, but it is growing football and Robert Perez was out there representing Arsenal and he had experience of playing out in Goa so he said it's growing all the time, yeah. Do you sample the local cuisine over there in India? I know you like an Indian. I do like an Indian and it was plenty on board for me, I tell you, I was a bit disappointed when I had to leave the place. Well, we told you last week on the Everton show that Congo-born midfielder, Benny Beningamy, had signed a new contract of the football club and we caught up with him earlier this week and he confirmed how delighted he is to commit his future to the Blues. I'm very, very happy, very thrilled. I've been working so hard for this and I'm just glad that Munzi and his staff have given me this opportunity again, which is very good. David Lonsworth has spoken very highly about you as well. How does it feel when you hear the coach speaking about you in such glowing terms? It's great, it gives you that confidence to carry on doing well, which I think we all did last season. However, we won the league, we were a team and we weren't carrying anyone, which was very good and we all played very well. And you moved to England when you were very young, didn't you? So how did the move come about? Oh, yeah, my dad got a job here, so we all moved around here and it was quite strange at first because, you know, new language and everything, so, but now we're kind of used to it. It feels like our country now, it feels like my country now, which is good. Everyone's been very welcome. And you've been Everton since you were very young as well, so Everton feel like your club as well? Yeah, yeah, it does, it does. It feels like my club, you know. This is where I want to be and this is where hopefully I can make my debut and play many more matches. And you've had that experience of training with the first team as well recently, haven't you, Sam? Yeah, yeah. How's that experience been for you? Yeah, it's great, it's great. Just to see where you're at, you know, if you can do it with the first team, then hopefully you've got a great chance of making it. And when you're training with those types of players, people, especially in your position, more than Szilian, as a guy, are they players you look up to? Yeah, yeah, they are, they are. I dress again, I look up to them so much, you know. I love how he plays. Hopefully, you know, I can play just like him. He's already a smashing player, Benny. He's a smashing lad as well and he's got a big future. I'm just delighted that it will be at Everton. Yeah, real bonus for Benny and he deserves it, thoroughly deserves it because he's very highly thought of at the football club as the contract now shows. The under-23s are doing well this season. They lost against Wolfsburg in the week but had a very young side in the Premier League International Cup. The under-18s last weekend had a fantastic victory, 5-1 against Sunderland. Yeah, brilliant victory for Paul Tate's lads. I mean, they've been playing some decent stuff, the under-18s have late, so I'm sure Paul Tate's going to be absolutely delighted with the form that they're showing. Antony Gordon scores the first two goals, which is great for him. I like Antony as a player. He's got a little bit of animal cunning about him, bit of devilment. Just plays off the front man there and he's come back into form. And then Manassi Mumpala goes and steals the thunder from him and scores a hat-trick. So, you know, that's terrific for him as well. You know, if you're a striker, you live and die by your goal. So, it's great for those two lads to have scored the five goals between them. And Paul Tate is delighted with the fact that they're scoring different types of goals, as we can see. Yeah, very much so. It's important, as I say, it's great to see the striker scoring the goals, but the build-up to the goals and the execution of the finishes were different clars. It was a terrific win for the under-18s. Nice to see the young sides in good form. And that's just about it for part one of this week's Everton Show, but don't go too far away because we're back indoors for part two when we will be joined by Wayne Rooney. Welcome back to part two. As you can see, I'm delighted to be joined for the first time on the Everton Show by Wayne Rooney. Thanks very much for coming on, Wayne. It hasn't been the start of the season that everybody wanted, but when the goal gets tough, the tough get go, and you've got to look at the positives, take them out and work with them and build on them, haven't you? Yeah, you're having, I think, we all knew before the season started that it was a tough set of fixtures, and we started the season well, obviously getting the win at Stoke, and working a draw away at Man City. And then from there, we struggled really in terms of results and performance as Wayne, as good as we know we're capable of, and I think the Tottenham game, we started well. Bit of an unlucky goal against this from Harry Kane, and then we wasn't good enough. We didn't respond good enough. And we've had tough moments in the last few weeks, but Brighton, I think, we could have won the game. We've done well, we showed good character to get back in the game after going a goal down, and we need to try and move forward, and we have to start putting points on the board, and with this game now against Arsenal, it's an opportunity to play it on. Big pressure, Arsenal are not in the greatest form themselves, so I think it'll be a good game, and a game which I believe we can win. The Premier League table's still tight, isn't it? Had we beaten Brighton, and we should have had another penalty as well, we'd have been in the top half. Yeah, I think the Burnley game was the one which... We knew the fixtures were tough, and the Burnley game at home was a game we should have won, and I think we deserved more out of the game, if I'm being honest, but they done well, they defended well, and they obviously got the goal in, and seeing the game out, and that was the one result which we were really disappointed with, and then obviously the Brighton game we feel... I think I believe that we have to go to them games and take three points, and with all the points at the end, in a certain sense, we've got to go down and get in the late equaliser, it's a point in the end which was a good point, but we have to win them games. As I said, there have been positives, not least of which has been the emergence and the form of Dominic Calvert-Lewan who's done smashing. Yeah, I think Dominic's got so much ability, and so much energy physically, he's really imposing on defenders, and he's got a big future here at Everton, and I think if he keeps learning the way he is, the speed he is, won't you be the future, you'll be the present where we'll be calling on him in games, and he works hard on the training pitch in the German, and I think he just needs that bit of luck to get that goal. I think once you get that goal in the Premier League, then it'll kick him on, but certainly up to now he's showing great signs, and he's a good lad as well, and that's what you want. He's got an assist in him as well, hasn't he? Yeah, he has. He created my goal against Stoke-Harmann City, and I think what players don't realise is how strong he is. He's obviously a tall lad, he's quite thin, but he's so strong, and I think defenders are starting to realise that now, and trying to be a bit more physical with him, and that's where he can use his pace as a vantage as well, if he's trying to get too tight to him, he's got the speed to get away from him, so I think he's still learning the game, obviously, and once he learns the right times to hold off defenders, and he'll come sure to feed them, he'll be a big player for us. Does he come to you for a bit of advice? Yeah, I speak to him a lot about different things in his game, different things in my game, how if we're playing together, different runs we might make and how we can help each other, and I think it's important for him that I can try and help him get better at that, but also for me to try and understand more each time we play together, the way he plays and try and form an understanding with him. Do you enjoy that part of the game now, Winner? You are a senior professional, having the opportunity to help the young players. I think it's part of your role as a player who's played in high-profile games and played a lot of games, it's part of my role to sort of help them, but that's a small part in which I feel I can help, the main part is doing well as a team and we all have to help each other, and I think that's something we need to improve on in the next few games. Everton vs Arsenal at the weekend, it'll never be just an ordinary fixture for you, Everton vs Arsenal because it was the game 15 years ago that catapulted you into the national spotlight, does it seem 15 years ago? Not really, I think. A better dozen times? Yeah, at times, but you know, teams still like it was round the corner as well. It's obviously my first goal in the Premier League for Everton and the winner, I think they were on a 30-year game on being running. It's still such an important goal for me as a player in my career and a goal which I'll always remember and it was a special moment. Do you realise at the time, or a couple of days later, that life for Wayne Rooney was never going to be the same again after that goal? No, not at the time, I think. At the time I was just buzzing to score the first league goal. I always remember thinking I need to score before I'm 17 in the Premier League. I played a few games and that was one to do score when I was still 16. I think that was the last league game, the last chance I had to do it. Thankfully Moisey brought me on and I got the winner. The score in the goal before you're 17 and the score in the goal against Arsenal past David Seaman in the last minute from 25 yards, it was pure theatre, wasn't it? Yeah, no, it was great and I think after the game it was a great buzz around the stadium after the game and I think the fans realised that someone who grew up watching them and playing, being there with them in the stands and going on to the pitch and producing a special moment and I think the fans feel that. I think to score the women's goal and in the manner it was scored as well. I think the buzz around the stadium was brilliant. As you say, you wanted to score while you were still 16, so as you were warming up that day, were you trying to catch Moisey's eye? Yeah, to realise how much fuming before the game. I played a couple of games before that and I thought it done quite well and I thought I deserved to start the game. Although I was 16, I was always confident and I always believed that I was good enough to play and I think that was always being part of me, my character as a football player and I remember not being happy that I wasn't playing. Obviously, when you look back here on the stands and you realise why they're doing it to protect you a bit. You know, both of them physically and you don't really, you can't physically play all the games. You can't play 90 minutes every game and so that's what he was doing. But yeah, I just wanted to get in the pitch and try and make an impact and thankfully I did. I spoke to David Unsworth about that girl at Finch Farm earlier this week and he said, just make sure Wayne remembers who won the ball in the first place. So it was clearly him. But take it from when Thomas Graveson lost at the ball forward. What do you recall? Yeah, I think it's come to Tommy and he's just tried to get to it and I didn't get it clear and I remember having a look over my shoulder and seeing the sole Campbell, it was a dropped off and left me in a lot of space so it gave me the time to bring it down and turn and as soon as I turned, I seen I had the space in front of me to shoot in. I had to go to my chances and thankfully it went in the top corner. Is it possible to explain or even remember what thoughts were going through your head when you saw the ball flash past David Seaman and into the back of the net? Not really. I just ran off, I obviously remember running over towards the main stand and I always remember being on Kevin Campbell's shoulders. I don't know if that's after the game. I think that was at the end. It was at the end, I always remember being on Campbell's shoulders. But I could see the excitement and how happy the players were because I think all the players knew how much it meant to me and you could see it in my teammate's face as well. So it was a big moment for me. What did you do that night, Wei? You must have watched the match of the day, surely? I can't remember. I went back home. Remember, we just had a kick-about in, obviously, where I'm from in Croxter. So you went out to play in the street when you got in? It was just like a few garages and we used to go back there. I would go back after every game and just have a kick-around and chatting. Just a few lads and that was it, really, it was something special. The excitement at the stadium was a mixture of pure excitement at the brilliance of the goal and a little bit of disbelief as well. I did the commentary that day with Steve Watson and he just took his headphones off just through them. He didn't know what to say. What was it like in training the following weekend, you remember? Was it just get back in and get back home with it? Yeah, I remember, I actually remember before the next game thinking, you can't leave me on the bench for this game. But no, I think it was... Yeah, just at that time, you just want to be playing every day. You want to be playing games every day and that's all I wanted to do was just playing. Terrific female and dad, wasn't it? Yeah, my mum and dad, obviously, my dad, was massive at Tony and always has been. For him, it was such a proud moment to see his lad come through the academy. I know he was extremely proud of that, but then to go on to the first team and that first goal was an emotional moment for him. Let's look ahead to this weekend, David and Arsenal. Arsenal this season, you're never quite sure what you're going to get, are you? Yeah, no, I think with Arsenal, you almost know what you're going to get, a fantastic footballing team. I think Arsenal has done a fantastic job and in my eyes, unfairly. It's the stick he gets and he's a great manager, one of the best managers. You know, the Premier League, he's probably second to Alex Ferguson in the history of the Premier League and you can see what he's trying to do with the team. I think he's been a bit unlucky, he's got some fantastic players and the first time really, he changed his way of playing. It was the end of last season, he went to trade the back and he's done that time for the season and I think it's going to be a tough game. You know, he'll pass the ball and try and get into little pockets and cause problems. What do we have to do to get something from the game? In my opinion, we have to be compact, not let them, not allow them the spaces in between, to defend them in the field and get behind the ball, stay compact and try and frustrate them and then when we get chances, try and play a bit. But I think we have to be ruthless, we have to be more ruthless in terms of creating chances, taking chances when we get them. It's both an aggressive, not just in terms of tackling, but in terms of running. Even the way you communicate with the other players, with each other, everything's got to be more aggressive in that sense. I think the fans feel that if we can do that, we'll be solid and then try and, you know, we will get opportunities. We know that we will get our chances and just be ruthless and take them. But also we need to be a bit wary because that's one of the best teams in the league. We're in an out of busy time, so thanks very much indeed for joining us. Please do join us again in 7 days time for another Everton show when hopefully we'll be reflecting on a bit of history, repeating itself.